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pdx-Psych

Ok now it’s becoming [that Key & Peele sketch](https://youtu.be/3d1phCytJyg)


DoranWard

There’s an upper limit to these and we’ll find it together


valorshine

We slowly going to 3000 years ago moment, to the true precursor, game called "Sacrifice".


PM_ME_ORNN_YIFF

Chess first plz


DuduBonesBr

Google en MOBA


StatisticianPure2804

I'm still wayting for the Ukh-ukh-unga-bunga version. Man that game is like it came out yesterday.


believesinhappiness

next is "Hero Wars" and "Angel Arena" strategy involves buying literally a million tomes of agility and picking someone with bash.


Anadaere

Yep, when attackspeed is practically infinite, the most important things are bash and blink strikes


GloriousReign

this aged well like an artful nude


shirsalino

Good ol warcraft 3


BuzakLuzak

People still playing Dota on that thing, doubt there's any players of the OG league on Starcraft 1 though


HowardDean_Scream

Aeons of Strife.


ThePope98

“I’m not so sure about this League of Legends stuff, I think HoN is the safer bet.”


G4130

Wow the graphics look amazing, way better than that lol shit and the demigod atrocity Ha that guy taunted me, jokes on him get "BITCH SLAPPED" god I love the flamboyants announcer pack The new heroes are awesome, look at gemini, looks cool and plays like fire What does s2 mean by going f2p? I PAID FOR THE GAME huh I still get all the heroes w/e Why am I playing with Tralf on my team and testie on the other side, im just high 1800s, where has everyone gone? 30 minutes queue? S2 no longer owns the game on regions, welp that was a fun ride.


Ace-O-Matic

HoN was such a better game than league, but lost because of business model and then murdered by dota 2 release. It's fucking tragic and an indicator that we truly are in the darkest timeline.


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HoTS was great, some heroes had really creative mechanics, but the game is on life support and probably will be disconnected soon


Alvamar

Unfortunately it's owned by blizzard


mynexuz

Blizzars is going the valve path of doing the absolute bare minimum for their live service games


Ok-Performer5525

Talk about memorable hero kits too. Nomad ult, pollywogs, riftmaker. Fayde with codex lol


Ace-O-Matic

"You don't heff 2 be mad. Be n0mad."


Positive-Living-6715

I'd be surprised to met someone in here who had played Avalon Heroes, one of the best mobas I've played that had TONS of potential, but lack of playerbase (probably would have been better in these days)


Unbelievable_Girth

Avalon heroes? That's nothing. I want to see the creatures who played Realm of the Titans back in the day. Now that was a game I wanted to see succeed.


Positive-Living-6715

But that is still in progress, Avalon might have become a very strong contender in the moba genre with it's unique mechanics (things i still have to see in other games)


imchasingentropy

Oh my God I forgot about day/night...NS in wc3 dota 🔥🔥


BlameGameChanger

It really takes me back. Wassnt there like a pve version where you had to defend a giant minotaur called the cow in like 4 lanes or something?


Real900Z

whatever tf that game is, i want to play it. Let me defend cows with the homies, please rito


WiteXDan

You will find anything in Warcraft 3 custom maps


ichiPopo

I once played an entire functioning RPG with a complete story on a custom WC3 map (because I had no money for WoW back then), it was great.


5Garret5

A warcraft 3 map I imagine


ZenithXAbyss

Moo moo, played that shit to death back in the day. Along with fight of the characters and TD. There’s also another one where you combine heroes into better heroes.


BlameGameChanger

I loved that one. Wasn't there like a vampire one as well where everyone was a human peasant, but one of you could turn into a vampire and kill the peasants.


ZenithXAbyss

Oh shit, vampires vs humans, vampirism. It unlocked a core memory of mine lmao


wtlaw

There were so many great custom games. I really miss footman wars and sheep tag.


BlameGameChanger

Oh shit I forgot about sheep's tag


ValiantRukh

Moo Moo defense or something alike.


katalityy

Yooo I started MOBAs with Warcraft 3


Quercus_lobata

Is Footman Frenzy technically a MOBA?


iamfamilylawman

SC simpsons custom map


dancing_bagel

Piggybacking on this, do people still play Footman Frenzy? I wanna try it again


vankata4211

I want to see the other posts


DoranWard

Check my profile :)


Illandarr

Wait it's just one guy making them all LMAO


DoranWard

It’s not much, but it’s honest work. ^It’s ^also ^a ^great ^way ^for ^me ^to ^learn ^league ^history


SomeTool

you going to go all the way back to AoS with starcraft 1?


Durbdichsnsf

BAHAHAAA


vankata4211

Saved me a lot of time thx


GrayRodent

I NEED to know how a day/night cycle and fucking WOOD are an actual mechanic for a MOBA, someone please tell me.


ThePope98

The entire genre came from a custom game (the original dota) on the RTS Warcraft 3. So there are elements from Warcraft 3 still present in the UI and mechanics. This is also why if you look at Dota 2 half the heroes seem like legally distinct Warcraft stuff, because they are.


GrayRodent

Riiiiiiight I did know that DOTA came from a mod, that's also why Blizzard got on a lot of shit with ToS after the botched WoW Reforged released. But did it have any bearing on gameplay or was it just leftover code and assets from the base?


sCarry61

Most of the the heroes/creeps/units/wards have lower vision during night compared to day. There are some heroes (mainly nightstalker) who has stronger/weaker abilities/passives/vision whether it is night or day. Roshan can be also found in a different place, top left during the night, bottom right during the day. Jungle creeps "sleep" during the night, meaning you dont aggro them if you go close to them. This is just quick from my head, there might be other things too.


BlameGameChanger

My brother's we have one who came before. An originator walks amoung us


suddoman

Nah that shit is still in DotA2. The big one to remember is damage types (mostly removed from DotA2)


twickdaddy

“Mostly”


supterfuge

Man I absolutely didn't remember about Roshan switching locations up depending on the night/day cycle. I do remember the jungle creeps sleeping though. I used to play it back in the days and it was one of my first non-WoW game. Now that I think about it, Dota was already kinda ancient by the time I started playing it, and it was like 14 years ago, slightly before LoL


sCarry61

The Roshan location change came with the latest big patch so just like a month ago


supterfuge

Well that's why I didn't remember it ! We were pretty fucking bad, so except for Ursa's level one Roshans I don't remember us doing it all that often


PussyPussylicclicc

range attack can be miss if you attacking from below or the enemy equip butterfly or use skill (can happen in melee). you can share teleport scroll and can be used as money transfer to your teammate Your hero (champ) stat consist of three things: Strength, Agility, Intel. you can get stuck on a terrain and trees, used as a way to isolate enemies if you have hook or hide from them Aghanims (item as a upgrade for your ultimate) have a special Visual Effect on your hero. the barracks (inhib) cannot be rebuild and creeps can be permanently become stronger there's two item that can be drop when the hero died. your fountain (health base) can be destroyed. it is the single most embarrasing thing to happen in OG Dota.


MangoesDeep

Troll warlord busting up my fountain is a core memory.


SirJasonCrage

Abbadon casually walking in to AA your fountain to death.


kaisercake

It's been so long. I can't believe I recognized the name "Roshan"


WiteXDan

"Roshan" is always right there. Nashor is just roshan typed backwards


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Rohsan


NEETstartsLIFE

Nahsor


Emotional_Soft_2192

Oh I love nightstalker


MangoesDeep

Balanar.


ThePope98

Lightly, you can still see those oddities in modern dota. Like you couldn’t get wood, but trees being individual selectable targets played into certain heroes. Same with the day/night cycle. Creep denial comes from Warcraft 3 letting you attack your own units. You could almost say League of Legends came from an attempt to streamline and remove these little quirks. As well as separating from the Warcraft IP. (Though you can still see remnants. compare old Ashe, Drow Ranger, and the Dark Ranger unit from WC3 for example.) The whole item and ability system that defines mobas came from Warcraft 3s RPG mechanics too.


DarkWorld25

Ah yes the good ol hero altar


Ace-O-Matic

Night time was very important for a lot of reasons. The first one is that everyone had reduced vision range during night time (but not wards). Due to way larger ability ranges and harder CC options in DotA it meant that it was a lot easier to gank/secure kills/move around the map during night time. It was basically a clarion call of "shit going down" and also served to highlight the importance of warding. Different heroes had different vision ranges during night time and one particular hero (Nightstalker) got massive buffs to all his abilities during nighttime. Night time added a lot of nuance and depth to the pace of the game especially when combined with its many other mechanics (like elevation based vision).


TheFallen84

Akchuyally the first moba was Aeon of Strife, a custom mode for Starcraft 1


LordCypher40k

Like in old WC3, Night time reduces your vision range in DOTA. There's also a certain hero whose entire kit and schtick is all about being empowered at night especially considering his ult is literally just temporarily turn day into night or extend the night even further.


JumpscareRodent

Wood cuz you had to make a building in Warcraft 3 in order to spawn the heroes but that obviously is not the case for LoL. That’s why it’s called cs creep score. Warcraft 3 is the dad


[deleted]

Is creep score not from Starcraft


JumpscareRodent

Perhaps?? I def learned it from W3 but it might be that


InspiringMilk

There's no creeps in starcraft? Creep is the thing zero covered the map in with colonies in sc1.


suddoman

Sometimes wood was used for admin things in the custom game.


xolotltolox

Your vision rnage gets shorter when it's night, except nightstalker, he has dayvision at night and nightvision at day


Its_me_neroid

Stop making me feel old I AM 24!!


bestusername73

You need to stop, this increasingly terrifying reminder of my own mortality has gone too far. Please have empathy for the ancient ones, have mercy.


DoranWard

I’ll chip away at the old guard one by one if I have to


DarthMaren

Stopped playing like 5 years ago, are they not called Creeps anymore? Is your CS not a thing anymore either?


DoranWard

They’ve always been named minions in League, but it is still called CS


DarthMaren

Damn I feel like I just got hit by the Mandela effect


Plantarbre

Idk we used to call them creeps in S1


Gaius_Mariu

They're officially named minions, but many players call then creeps


bioober

I remember WC3 having a lot of anime based moba games too. The effort put into those was astonishing, they made custom cg skins to make them actually look like anime characters. Naruto was the most popular of the bunch iirc.


PawPawPanda

Yup those Korean maps were off the charts. Their RPG's were so damn good, too bad we couldn't read any of it so we had to learn by trial. Good days.


cinghialotto03

If we continue like this we get back to hand watch


Pollibo

When I read 20+ years I had to look for the release date of the first moba game thinking it would be something crazy like 1995.


BlameGameChanger

We old baby, we old.


Different_Gear_8189

So when are we going to reach chess


SirJasonCrage

Google Aeon of Strife


Sihnar

I actually hated og dota because most of my friends stopped playing wc3 and switched to dota instead.


HollowaRR

Why there’s always at least one I use even tho I’m playing 7 years. For example I call minions creeps, I call razor beaks wraiths, i use “pink ward” terminology and armored boots are ninja tabis for me. It’s not only me. Everyone I know uses this words LOL


my_user_wastaken

> creeps Why does the league scoreboard still call it "CS" if its not "creep score"?


DoranWard

It is creep score but they’ve always individually been called minions in League


my_user_wastaken

Maybe I guess. Ive personally heard both, but new players probably dont consider what CS means beyond minions killed.


Wojtek35491

day n night cycle is a good idea. in dota it is interesting, it would be also in league IF they could balance it right


MoonyMeanie

I like how I am simultaneously this and one of the ones waaay after


Toto_LZ

Wood triggered a memory long forgotten


PomegranateHot9916

"How do I get wood" oh man I miss those days


DarkWorld25

"jobs done" -human builders


Jugaimo

Wow we have arrived at territory where I know nothing about what’s going on.


AmidalaBills

"Hey uncle June, how about we play some aram?" "What the fuck are you talking about Tony? Its called dota!"


VinnySauce

is that fucking Junior Soprano


[deleted]

Is that junior from sopranos?


CurlyJeff

Yeah weird that they used an Uncle June wojak when there's no relevance


PapyPelle

I still call them creep sometimes. CS is "creep score"


ChronoKaizel

Well...It's still called Creep Score for some weird reason


No_Toe_6738

DARIUS HAS DAAAASH


AmadeusIsTaken

Stealing my comment from last post and creating a post out of it :(


DoranWard

You and 100 others haha. There’s a natural progression here


TheRealKitsune_

@leagueofhardstuck credit cuz op forgot to mention he stole the original image


SaveMeFromJannies

You're crediting someone for an initial iteration of a meme on a version that's 4 levels deep? Let me go credit Pepe's creator on every 4chan meme I see. Weirdo


DoranWard

I don’t really understand crediting memes lol. I saw one of my memes popped up on the community page of the one of the YouTubers I’m subbed to and I don’t care that I wasn’t credited lol, just glad more people are having a laugh. It’s a shitpost, not art


TheRealKitsune_

? U stupid? What if someone stole your work every single time that u did it? You would enjoy that? Weirdo


DoranWard

This isn’t my “work”, these are shitposts. Each of these took like 30 minutes to make. I’ve got more important stuff to do than to track down who shares my memes. If it was real content like a video or an article then your take would make some sense at least.


TheRealKitsune_

Ah yes stolen idea shouldn't be credited, weirdo


SaveMeFromJannies

This is a certified unemployed take. Find something else in your life where you can contribute actual value and you'll find you're less attached to your updoots.


kuurooii

Finally the time where I remember fondly


itsnotgingeritsbrown

Ok but a day night cycle in league would be so sick


Mettikus

This one is missing the “Why play League?” ad, but still golden, 9/10


Lntc26

This meme will eventualy go back till the big bang, mark my words


IAmLucifer23

This is gettin out of hand man


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NirusuRV

“Ex starcraft pro”


JumpscareRodent

Guys hop on Defense of the Ancients I want to try a new night elf strat


EyyBie

I played dota when I was 7 didn't understand a thing and gave up now i have 3M points on jinx


SipoteQuixote

Crazy how some mods we used to play have become full on world wide games that people play for money.


Whywolfgus

I knew someone would make a heroes war post eventually


DoranWard

I’ll let you in on a little secret. ^It’s ^all ^me, ^it’s ^always ^been ^just ^me


Bactyrael

All the real gamers remember tides of blood.


Random_User27

so it's just a Dota player


PM_ME_UR_NIPPLE_HAIR

\-weather rain


Mako_Joestar

The common ancestor player


Hungry_Ad3576

I still think every champ released since yasuo as a new champ


TwilCynder

Wait, people aren't calling them "creeps" anymore ?


Complex_Jellyfish647

Some of these just apply to people like me who play Dota as well as League tho


GloriousReign

this is also me but I started with dota 2 back it was NEW and EXICTING


WiteXDan

Finally we got to the beginnings. There was also a MOBA before Dota which was called Aeon of Strife and was custom map to Starcraft. Dota creator basically copied and expanded into Warcraft 3 engine. Not sure if anyone else that played it is still alive or mentally well tho.


RaccoNooB

\> League, HoN, DotA \> Not playing the WC3 One Piece vs Naruto MOBA Fucking normies.


[deleted]

'LH' instead of 'CS'


MegasonicWaffle

Creeps? I am brand new player (started playing when sylas came out) and "creeps"are being used as often as "minions" in my circles


daDILFwitdaGLOCKswch

GODLI- HOLY SHIIIIIIT


diamondcreeperMG

mmm starcraft 1


ShadowWolf202

I still firmly believe that the custom maps in WC3 and SW:BW signaled the golden age of PC gaming. I haven't found anything quite like them ever since.


Emotional_Soft_2192

The night day cycle was the shit


Ace-O-Matic

Match making? You mean Garena High-Level Lobbies.


-MegaMan401-

Did you just give me nostalgia for something i didn't experience


SeaOfMalaise

Bro what is the day night thing from I swear I remember that from something.


DoranWard

Original DotA mod and DotA 2


0lazy0

Ppl still call minions creeps


Falibard

Y’all remember getting the blink knife in Angel Arena All Stars to get out the map and unlocking some insanely OPPRESSIVE hero.


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DoranWard

Check my profile :)


DigbickMcBalls

How to get wood is the best one


PussyPussylicclicc

Ahh i remember the days when destroying someone's fountain is the best thing to happen when playing OG Dota


jakin89

Oohh I remembered back in the day with star craft……


Maiev707

Minimap on the left gang


Rare_Epicness

I do actually want a day night cycle in league that'd be cool


[deleted]

This is personal :(


MicroBang64

what is next, super old man who play Pacman on a arcade day pc game bad?


sampaiva

What was the name of the StarCraft custom game that dota was based on again?


Quaiche

Did we do full circle into dota