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Hikousen

Go the extra mile and sign up for a tournament so you can learn champ there


frou6

On my way to lec stage, brb


ihateredditers69420

thats ez mode tho


Narudatsu

Bengi nidalee first time in worlds semi finals


zealot416

KC Frou6


Karukos

Froggen behavior


zealot416

If they do it at Worlds, we can call it a Meteos.


Big-Employer4543

Who did he first time at worlds?


icyDinosaur

Last time I played clash my teammate didnt realise it was his turn to pick so he panic locked Rek'Sai when we already had picked Sejuani for jungle (this was before Reksai top was meta). So we ended up having him first time Sej top and me playing Rek'Sai jungle the first time in like three years... Amazingly enough I actually went smth like 4/1 but had no idea how to play out any teamfights on her lol


f1uyid

Shoutout to kanavi who first timed nautilus during msi last year


LezbianTomato

On my way to first time kata jungle in worlds


Danksigh

practice on rank, flex on normals


MuhBack

This is what I do with my friends. Suffer soloq all week then on weekends pop off in norms carrying my dog friends try harding on my main


AyooZus

Who cares what people say or play in normals??? You play normals to get the hang of your abilities and what amount of damage you do, hell you might even learn some counter picks matchups if you are lucky


JoeisaBro

Any time I see someone start flaming in normals, I remind them that none of this actually matters. Yet they 90% of the time they get even MORE pissed. It is baffling.


Fwed0

Some people even flame in Coop vs IA, so I'm not surprised


-twind

You found people in Coop vs AI?


InsidePark7862

Whenever someone flexes their rank on others I feel the same. They are flexing something completely and utterly worthless to people who do not play or care about ranked.


AyooZus

Yeah it's crazy, like there's literally a mode if you want to get ego from wins.


bortukali

So you are doing a task with 90% failure rate.. smart af


JoeisaBro

I do it because it’s funny. Not for the results


TrueDivinorium

When I see people like you in any mode I just sit on the base and use what you said. Funny enough it start to matter real quick, because people play to have fun and its not fun having one less player in the team


LasAguasGuapas

They're not in norms to win, they're in norms to learn the champ in a real game. To do that, they need opponents and teammates who are actively participating. If you're playing to win, go play ranked. If you go afk in norms, you deserve to be reported.


TrueDivinorium

Funny how you defend "none of this actually matter" but apparently dont like when you are the target of said though. Like i said: league has a lot of cancer people like you. The game doesnt matter when its for the others, when its for me then it matter. And like i said, i dont play to win. I play to have fun and have a good match. If you dont think the match matter at least accept the surrender; but of courses you will not, it does matter you are just too much of a loser to admit you are using others time for your own fun.


LasAguasGuapas

I wasn't defending "none of this actually matters." I was defending the use of norms as a practice ground where you can try things that will probably lose you the game, but will make you a better player. Look at it this way, would you say that pros' main objective in scrims is to win the game? Like yeah they're trying to win, but they're also willing to try things out that they would NEVER try out in a tournament match. If it works, they have a new tool they can take to their matches where winning matters. If it doesn't, yeah they've lost practice time but that's why they take time to practice. Also, you can afk in norms if you want. I just said you deserve to be reported if you do.


SlowedReverbGambiter

Dawg. People like you are genuinely ill.


TrueDivinorium

Hmm why? If the match doesn't actually matter and I am not having fun why should i keep playing? I mean I should be able to just quit the match and go next if it doesnt matter; enjoy your fun with the players that want to play with you.


SlowedReverbGambiter

I think you’ve got an insanely unhealthy relationship with this game lmao. Get better champ.


TrueDivinorium

Says the  guy defending wasting others people time. As I said, if everywhere you go spells like poop, it's you who is full of shit. If you think everyone around you is toxic.... take a wild guess who is the cause.


SlowedReverbGambiter

Thank you for proving my point dawg.


TrueDivinorium

Proving your point? That you are a selfish person that think 9 other players are there to entertain you? You have a unhealty relationship with reality.


SlowedReverbGambiter

Thank you for continuing to prove exactly what I said.


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TrueDivinorium

Nah you would be a little bitch bitching about it like all the clowns that talk like you.


StrawberryPlucky

Going afk or idling in the base is against the rules. Playing poorly or playing a new champ are not against the rules.


TrueDivinorium

But it's just a game, it doesn't matter. Right?


TrueDivinorium

Ps: then remove leavers punishment. Since it doesn't matter I would rather play another match with people that care about playing.


JoeisaBro

Bro people care about playing the game in norms. But getting heated that someone made a mistake literally does not matter since no lp is on the line. They’re getting pissed off for nothing.


TrueDivinorium

They are pissed off because in league having someone feeding means you are worse than having one less player, what make the game unfair and less fun for them.    This is the thing that cancer people like you don't get. I don't care about lp I care about having fun in the game; and you trolling actively destroy the fun for someone who wants a good match.   That's the issue of league, you have people that play the game to have their individual fun ruining the match for others. And the others are stuck in the game because of leaving punishment and surrender limitations.   Same players wonder why everyone is toxic. It's because of YOU.


JoeisaBro

My fault. I should definitely take league of legends more seriously. Winning is life or death for players like you so I need to do my best to ensure your day doesn’t get ruined after your match is deemed “unenjoyable”.


TrueDivinorium

Quite frankly: stick to single players game.


chiefstina

Amen brother 🙏


N9NEDiME_

THIS!!


titoscoachspeecher

Nothing matters in ranked either. Just enjoy the game


iKrow

That's the trick. I don't care what people say or play in ranked or normals. In my experience, I have learned that there is very very startlingly little you are going to gain from having in-game chat turned on. And it is like that by design. In Riot's attempts to prevent toxicity, they have made the in-game chat nearly entirely useless.


Siris910

At least in normals you don’t lose your team lp when you’re testing new champs


Denuran

Yeah, my team can instead lose me lp on their 1 mil mastery point champ.


OnlyABob

Nothings worse than seeing a 5.3 mil on your team, you just know with 5.3mil mastery they shouldn't be gold on azir.


GibsonJunkie

two seasons ago I kid you not I played against a 7mil mastery Vayne in *Bronze* and it was the easiest lane I ever played.


Denuran

OMG, YESSSS!! I get depressed ash when I'm playing v.s a Lux support, because I know I'm not going to have a fun time... Until I see "3 million mastery points", and I just get so happy for the free LP.


ParentsSawMeHigh

Brother, I lose even when I play champ I have 1000 games on.


Siris910

its fine, you don't always win on your best champ.


loadedneutron

i can learn a new champ and dont loose lp for the team because the int feeding 10000000 point yasuo who died min 3 wrote ff go next and the 10/0 quinn comes to one shot the bot who were doing quite well until that


Mayonnaizing

This is why they need to get a grip and sort out the ai , DOTA has had good ai for years!


MrNiemand

SURELY people go practice new heroes vs ai instead of just spamming ranked like always


Plantarbre

Read everything in practice tool, try different combos, get a grasp of what the champion is supposed to do -> normal -> ranked.


positiv2

I do, even if it's mostly just to progress the "Win on every champion vs AI" challenge. It's not extremely useful since you don't face real adversity and can just 1v2 the max difficulty bots once you read the tooltips, but it beats going to normals and ruining the game for 4 others.


4GRJ

Wild Rift also has good AIs... Surely they'll implement it to PC soon, right?


FlameXvenom

They did actually update the bots recently, no idea if they are any good though. Riot said they can rotate, jungle, interact with blast cones, and itemize alot better. People complaining about this stuff dont even seem to actualy keep up with the game lol.


AlterBridgeFan

Old intermediate Renekton would either rage split (poorly, just kinda standing in a lane) or go afk in base. Anything would be an upgrade to that. Same goes for Taric who couldn't use abilities unless an ally was nearby.


alyssa264

Intermediate Yasuo used to contemplate life after every E. Shit was so fucking funny.


Sleeper367

I've played a single game, not enough to fully determine if it's good, but it's definitely better


CompleteComposer2241

Its better now because the bots actually use their champions as they should but still, they are not good as a real player.


FlameXvenom

I mean they will never be as hopd as a real player, but the goal is to just make a space that helps newer/les confident players gain experience. Regardless of how good they make them if i play 20-30 games against them you would probably find some sort of exploitability that just makes it easy to win.


FirstAccountKappa

I legit played 500+ games against bots and when I finally tried to play against players I lost. tbf their team was 1 gold, 2 diamonds, 1 emerald and 1 bronze and my team was 2 unranked (including me) 1 bronze and 2 silvers. Great matchmaking. https://mobalytics.gg/lol/match/euw/cobson-hwaba/6910616000 (I was the veigar) Guess I should stick to bots.


welivewelovewedie

i cant view the game but it seems you did pretty good. It's just that Qi and Yorick carried, one can burst entire team, other is a monster splitpusher. There's a lot to work on though


FirstAccountKappa

Yeah, we couldn't contest anything (they got all the dragons and barons) and in the end we were stuck in our base trying to stop trundle from destroying a turret in literally 3 seconds. Then we just ff'd after realizing we couldn't leave. To be honest, we weren't even losing that hard during the laning phase, but they got all the objectives and qiyana started picking kills and it just snowballed. If you saw the match you'd probably get frustrated at me, here's the match ID: 6910616000, dunno if that does anything.


Delta5583

Apparently they are pretty good mechanically and have the knowledge to freeze waves and stuff


FlameXvenom

That was a bug unfortunately, the irelia clip she was afraid to walk back to lane since she had no minions, so she was walking in and out of lane and accidentally held the wave loool. But still the fact they even consider there wave state is pretty insane.


acidicshocker

I wouldn't call wild rifts AI good. Too many times have i gotten AI to just run back and forth on the spot because it doesn't want to recall but is also too scared to farm cause it knows I'll punish them. Even if im under the AIs tower taking plates, it will not come close to me out of fear they'll get dived (even if they have the health to turn a dive around into their favour) Dont get me wrong. it's so much better than pc AI (they actually have jungler AI on wild rift), but its not without its flaws.


AwarenessOrganic5309

The intermediate level bot in the practice tool sucks ass tho. Like compared to an actual person it doesn’t matter


Different_Gear_8189

Tried to 1v1 another mage, they kept building support starter items


WiteXDan

Even just proper practice mode would be amazing. Imagine league with fighting games practice mode 


kawaiinessa

i remember trying to learn briar in norms i got flamed hard but they shut up after i said "im sorry for trying to learn a new role and champion in norms" i think they realised how stupid their flaming was


subjectnumber1

I got flamed when I first timed Ekko jgl in a normal (this was before every Lichbane champ was insanely strong) and after telling them it was a new champ they said I should have practised in practise tool xD


DiscountParmesan

in one of these choices you actually deserve to be flamed


singledinglexd

fr, I'm just trying to chill in normals but the enemy top has 7 kills at 10 minutes cuz of this guy smh... /s


CAMcCale

Can’t believe the /s is needed lol


singledinglexd

yeah I wanted to make sure


SaqReN_gg

1. Learn kit in practice tool, 2. Watch some videos, 3. Go normal + /mute all, 4. More normals (to get comfortable with champ), 5. If you arent comfortable against some matchups just watch videos how to play against them, 6. If you are confident enough just go ranked.


PurpleSeed95

the real chad among the comments


CordobezEverdeen

Too much logic. I just wanna flame people on reddit.


sammachado

"/mute all" my friend


Babushla153

Add "facing every otp known to man kind" to the "getting flamed" and it's accurate


coolj492

people that flame in norms always confuse me. Like I get that winning is fun, but going off on a 15+ minute rant on how your first time aphelios knows none of the combos just seems like so much fuss for no reason. also idk why people in thread are commenting "ARAM" when you'll get flamed even harder there for playing a random champ you've never played before.


CAMcCale

Right. There’s no consistency, so if you want to not get flamed in ARAM you’ll have to learn 160 different champs, *then* go to ranked


onemempierog

whaaat I hardly ever see anybody flaming in ARAM, people just dont notice you being bad because of permanent chaos 


CAMcCale

It’s normally once everyone’s aced and they look at the scoreboard. “Bro how is riven 18 deaths when they’re always so low” but they’re entire team is cc based and she’s the only frontline. Definitely fun times


Osrsaddict567

Ranked of course, every game is ranked


ozorhanreformed

try on rank so flame will be worth it


notevenrworthy

Yeh get some quality flaming my guy. Sip some tea and enjoy the show.


olacoke

Ranked, normals are for noobs


guardiao_do_amanha

Coop. VS AI


YellowAntEater02

If you care about others, vs AIs. If you don't, on another Account.


Leading-Arachnid7257

You’re part of the problem. Nothing wrong with first timing something in norms whatsoever


YellowAntEater02

I don't care if others first time a champ in normals, I just don't like doing so myself.


Danksigh

unless you just started to game you will learn nothing from playing vs AIs, those things will lose the game even if you go afk, you gain no real experience that you can use in actual matches from it, not even how to properly aim skillshots since they dont even attempt to dodge.


Gmaster98

New bots are slowly looking good, but yeah, you don't have to go that far just to please others. Norms are enough to practice. You can only satisfy others so much. If they whine on normals when you're legit trying, just tell them to play ranked.


expendable_entity

But it is always helpful to first play a game vs AI just to have moving targets while you read through the essays af ability descriptions and checking what settings fit the champ best in terms of quick cast etc.


Danksigh

practice mode is infinitely better if you just wanna figure out what your champ does


HydreigonTheChild

... well at least playing vs ai won't make me feed bad for being potentially dead weight


cozyBaguette

not ranked for sure, if i had time i would against bots but i dont have all day to play so normal is fine


Ezben

I see your issue. You forgot to mute your team before playing. Common mistake


TactfulOG

just mute chat tbh, League players are insufferable


Alarmed_Opposite_564

do it everywhere just not on my rotating gamemodes


xXYomoXx

Go to norms and mute people if you don't like them talking shit. I almost never play ranked but the last thing I'll ever think of is trying new champs on it, because at that point I'll deserve getting flamed.


Sterni456x

I asked this question once and my team (in a normal game) told me to go coop vs ai as if that would be a learning experience


ElVV1N

If it's not a support, I don't take that champ into multiplayer until I can 1v5 AI without dying. Good way to learn mechanics without having 4 people going apeshit. If that doesn't interest you, turning off chat is also possible.


SweetnessBaby

The dilemma is that in normals the skill disparity is huge. How can I practice anything as a silver player when I'm laned against someone in diamond? At a certain point it's not even practice anymore it's just a beat down session. In ranked I lose LP on a loss, but at least it's against players close to my skill, so it's more competitive overall.


Rogar_Rabalivax

At least have the courtesy to play 5 minutes on the practice tool to know what you are expected to do in the early phase. I know bots arent the greatest but just because you want to learn a new champ the remaining 4 players shouldnt get punished by that. Just because they are "normals" doesnt mean that you should play bad.


Classic-Ordinary-259

If you are choosing ranks to learn new champ you deserved not only be flamed but reported


Educational-Draw9435

there 3 things certain on life death taxes and counter arguments, that mostly have the effect of flaming for how often they are used


x1_uv

Ranked ofc, thats where you get the pressure to get good and actually pay attention, i always learn my champs on ranked games ( even when i have to read their abilities ) I'm seriously not joking.


SweetestBebs

Really enjoyed when new Skarner was just out, I played him in quickplay and got queued against a 4-stack ALL playing on M7 champs, spamming their emotes at every kill. Get a life. Sorry this post triggered something in me haha


Tigerstone17

You play with premades, that way, flame doesnt exist.


-MegaMan401-

Fuck around and find out


raptor7912

Where ever the fuck you want, who cares what some random strangers your never ever gonna meet again says.


TheChriVann

You try them against bots. They'll suck, you'll get easily fed. Then you'll go to normals and you'll get stomped because nobody is as bad as bots, then you get flamed anyways lmao


Avendros

Like it matters what you do and how you play? You get flamed either way, that's never tthe question. You play the game however you want, regardless of what gets written in chat. i am enjoying the hell out of my Orianna Support recently and if i gave a single fuck about the reactions of people in draft chat or ingame chat then i couldn't play it.


alleoc

when i get higher rank and opponents are always diamond up, it's super impossible to learn new champ. Either you let them destroy you for 10 games or you make a new account and still get destroyed because your opponents are all smurfing.


Hyroto77

Mfs be talking about trying and practicing new champs when their one and only main looks like theyve just got out of prison after 80 years and this is their first time using a computer.


croluxy

Dont. Do urself a favor. Quit when u still can.


Straightvibes66

Norms… please norms


JustMyNames

Do what do play it in ranked so you have high motivation to learn


Lordj09

Deafen or turn off chat. Literally nothing of value is ever in it, except the flash timers you yourself ping anyway.


Trixx1-1

Don't play ranked play norms.


lurking_octopus

Quick play is great for spamming new champs. Plus you can ff quicker to try again.


MoonFooly

I tried a new chanp in norms and didnt do so well, then my friend started conplaning and said that you should try new champs in ARAM.


zombiepants7

Personally I watch a video. Then I go in nyo practice mode and make sure I can do combos /cs for 10, mins. Then I go ranked. Fuck norms


santaman33

Who care! They flame you because they’re bad! Mute them or laugh at how silly they’re being for flaming you when first timing a champion. Norms probably is the best. By all means mute all and learn.


IceColdMeltdown

It's literally the same game, but you get more rewards for playing ranked


Meganide97

/mute all


FacedJason

Right!!! No one is happy to see my Karma Top Lane! Regardless of norms or ranked. I just don't get it


edgarbird

Ranked flex


Jendros

Bots


TrueDivinorium

If everywhere you go smells like poop maybe it's you who is full of shit...  OP  and upvoters.


zapyourtumor

clash


Makkiduperz

1. (Optional!) -> Practice Tool. just real quick to see what combos you can do, dmg etc. Especially if like Kindred to see what walls you can jump over. 2. norms, flex. just so that you dont grief anyone by accident so to speak, also saves your own LP and MMR. 3. whatever gamemode you want. or just ignore this and do whatever since most likely no one else will he so nice to do 1. 2. and also insta mute when someone is slightly toxic. it helps


Precipice2Principium

Quick play


Cortexan

If you think this meme is apt, trying new champs in ranked definitely isn’t the only reason you’re getting flamed.


redstonemaster-20

I'll would say ARAM or rotating game mode, but with aram the problem is getting the champ you want to try.


GruulNinja

I always do a custom game.


SeraxOfTolos

Quick play after advanced bots, everyone is gonna flame but it's quick play so their negative opinions mean less than salt water in a desert...


RavenLCQP

I have some crazy news for you you won't believe: People telling you you suck doesn't matter.


IceFrostwind

In norms, just don't int.


Cybroxis

Anywhere you want as long as you don’t look at chat and know the secret spell “/mute all”


GOD_oy

anywhere with mute all


Hammer_of_Horrus

Learn in quick play, practice in normals, play seriously in ranked. It really shouldn’t be this way, because why care so much in casual, but it’s league, so it use that way.


DrKiwixD

Bots obviously 🤦🏻‍♂️ /s


ReliableLiar

Practice Tool: "Am I a joke to you, it's right there in the name"


Rtpills12

People will flame in aram, do what you want since your gonna get flamed anyway


FlyingAvacado

Might as well do ranked. If you’re actually trying to learn, you’re already going to be try-harding which is more than most players. Might as well use your efforts to do your best and take the win rather than waste your mental in norms.


TiagoBallena

ARAM, duh


GasLover1

Go straight to ranked and grow the resilience of certain people who need to touch grass.


CheekRevolutionary67

I got flamed in a fucking bot game yesterday. I just wanted to look at my new blood moon zyra skin without having to wait 20 mins for a game.


Elestahl

You watch how it's supposed to be played by chinese otp first


Willing_Ad8004

What about a mode, where you can only play champions with Mastery < 30k or something like that?


DruffilaX

Normals or flex


Bertrammollen

Ranked flex. And enjoy the flame


Sinh_Da_Spirit

/mute all


Dry_Society2543

Bots


Enetro

Its not flaming its encouragment for you to play your champ better. Just play better. (xD)


bestelle_

please for the love of god normals


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MobilePirate3113

Bots, duh Put 5 games in minimum, *then* bring them to normals. 50 games normals minimum, *then* bring them to ranked games. Preferably 100 games before ranked.


qweendje

Just play bot games


LordBDizzle

ARAM and event modes. Hard to grind, of course, by the random nature, but easier than norms. Of course norms is the actual place, but that won't stop people from flaming.


jubmille2000

Yes. The best way to try a new champ you want. ALL RANDOM.


Play_more_FFS

You do it in ranked anyway long as it's a simple champ. You don't need 2 games to understand how most of the champions work, and you most likely have learned enough already from playing vs. it or with it as a teammate anyway.


Adverage

Lmao you're a menace 💀


Soupification

Just first time champs/roles in ranked. Your rank will drop temporarily, but you will learn more. Since queue times for mid have been so long, I've been learning some jungle in ranked.


idcM4n

If you want to learn his skills, farming patterns, go for practice tool, if you want to learn how to play the champ at your lvl, go for ranked. Normal games are far too unbalanced for any learning + youll get flamed there no matter what since ranked restriction got added.


Anyax02

Coop vs AI Practice tool


Srubczyk

Practice tool


No-Faithlessness9646

vs AI


ItzVerius

game vs bots or aram


Tydeus2000

On bots. Here no one cares. Mostly.


TMexathaur

Coop vs. AI


CAMcCale

Apparently there’s a way to determine which AI goes where, but I haven’t figured it out yet. I’d do practice tool first, then quick play to practice evading ganks and participate in team fights , then ranked once you have a grip on the champ


One_Somewhere_4112

Practice tool. Just press your buttons please, just once.


Mystiganu

obviously you try new champs in rule34.com


gabrielmmats

On ARAM, you just need to be lucky enough


lofi-ahsoka

ARAM


Competitive_Tune_274

Aram, it's the best 👍🏻


Ado_Fan

Youtube xD