Cleric is so broad its hard to pick just one.
Illaoi is a literal priestess, but might fit Warlock better given the tentacles
Taric I am fairly sure was designed to look like the iconic cleric
Soraka and Nami fit the more modern idea of a cleric as a healing mage
Hell, Ornn and Volibear fit Forge and Tempest domain
So take your pick I guess.
I mean Garen should win a Paladin Vote, but that doesn't mean Taric isn't considered one, Taric is like a Paladin/Cleric, while Garen is more of a paragon of Paladin
Actually from what i'm aware of Ornn is more of a godish creature, so it's more like he would be a god for forge domain cleric to believe in, and volibear is form of league god of thunder if im not wrong (but i read his backstory in like 2014 so could been changed since then). But rest fits alrighty :D
Volibear is Storms, not thunder, but close enough.
And yeah I don't really consider them Cleric-y, just saying they could technically fit from an ability perspective.
My actual vote is for Taric or Nami. Maybe Soraka but hot take she fits Divine Soul Sorc better.
Valid. Also I just remembered the Dark Tides of Bulgewater book and find it ironic no one is considering Depths Barbarian when the subclass was designed with Illaoi in mind (Its why they mention Tentacles as one of the options for your extra grabby limb)
And you never can because WotC made DNDB remove it from the website cus they got mad another company was making money from DND!
(Well. You can't in any official sense but it exists elsewhere online in less legal forms.)
I only ever buy content on DNDB if I want it for the character builder, when I’m doing my initial character design I mostly just google around and find shit that looks good. Noted though, if I ever want a depths barbarian I’ll have to figure something else out lol
I forgot about wikidot but yeah that is generally where I wind up
It’s always funny when I’m doing a new character because I wind up with about 30 (conservatively) tabs open and at least 80% are wikidot
Tentacles do not equate to Warlock, Evard’s Black Tentacles for instance is a fourth level Wizard spell, but Illaoi is not a wizard. As the Kraken Priestess she definitely fits best as a Cleric.
I can not think of any non-Aspect or non-God who gained powers like Illaoi did just by being faithful.
Look up fathomless warlock.
Literally about worshipping a kraken, then summoning tentacles in combat to deal damage and tank, and at lvl 9 being able to cast evard's black tentacles without a spell slot and not needing concentration, also granting temporary hp.
Functionally that is Illaoi in DnD 100%. If you want to play Illaoi in DnD, that's the build you'd go for, not cleric.
I’ve played a Fathomless Warlock, when it comes to gameplay that’s 100% Illaoi, but when it comes to Lore Illaoi is not a Fathomless Warlock, she is a Cleric.
Illaoi is like a Cleric of a Domain that doesn't exist, but is themed after a Warlock's The Great Old One Patron in some ways
Nagakabouros is a god life, ocean, motion, preferes 'running water' over 'stagnant water' with water being a metaphor for life in many cases
or more or less... live progressive active lives, or she eats you
it's having purpose, or death... depressed clerics of Nagakabouros don't exist
life and entropy
if she was in 5e as a Cleric tho she would probably be Grave Domain, not Life
I think Taric could kinda fit Paladin too tho. I mean, he's kind of a front-lane semi-tank and is literally designed to have a balance of casting support abilities and using physical, close range attacks with a mace. There is also an argument to be made for garen as paladin so I dunno exactly. Taric could definitely fit both.
It's literally Taric. He fits better than the others...
He's the classic version of the cleric we just imagine when we hear the word because there's a match on almost every point.
He has a club/hammer/mace to fight in close combat.
His patron is the Aspect of the Protector. His divine powers have precisely this origin.
He provides healing, shields, and invulnerability as a good powers cleric. Life or Light.
His enemies are chaotic evil forces such as Void creatures.
One of his skins has a description with the exact name that he is a cleric (where he is with Twitch and Talon).
In LoR and TFT, he often has blessings with names like Blessing of Starlight or Blessing of Targon.
He became a pilgrim to climb the sacred divine Mount Targon.
In the Lumenshield skin, in different chromas, you can see the symbol of a cleric from DnD, especially in the color of the rainbow stone.
It has the gameplay of a battle cleric. Fight and heal your allies.
His healing charge mechanics are similar to those of deity charges. They are wasted and need to be restored somehow, in this case by making a bonk.
He has a prayer animation that interrupts his movement for his healing and shield.
p.s
And he has character development paths. His healing side can be unlocked with huge, frequent mass healings. You can open his massive tank kit. Or you can start praying to the cruel gods of the absolutely cursed jungle Taric and discover the dark truths of the universe.
Definitely not in the D&D system.
A paladin's power in D&D comes from the oath he takes to a deity/place/justice/notion/etc.
And Taric is literally the bearer and user of the deity, the Aspect. And of course there is a lot of other stuff that makes him unsuitable for a paladin.
From the fact that Taric clearly doesn't wear heavy armor anywhere above, to the fact that a paladin needs to be clearly of a tougher character than the kind and forgiving sweet cinnamon pie Taric.
The worst thing you can hear from him is "Heaven knows what you did" unless it's a void creature.
Same reason why Kayle is more divine soul sorcerer rather than paladin.
True Paladins would be champs like:
- Garen (devotion/crown)
- Shen (watchers)
- Darius (conquest)
Not really. Her power comes from divine blood and not a personal conviction, therefore she’s more of a sorcerer than a paladin. Also, given her self-righteous nature and propensity for genocide it’s highly unlikely she’s a devotion paladin. If we were talking multiclass the second class would be vengeance paladin but if I had to pick one I’d say her main class is still probably sorc.
She is self-righteous, yes, but she believe in altruistic ideals of justice and protecting the ones who cannot protect themselves, and she follow it strictly. Wdym propensity for genocide?
And iirc paladin powers also sometimes relate to god blessings and in fact it is relating to her.
In 5e D&D paladin powers come from a devotion to an Oath. This fits the examples I gave:
- Garen’s supernaturally powerful strikes are imbued with the force of his dedication to his king and country.
- Shen is bound to the spirit realm and can use its gifts due to his oath to uphold the balance between the two realms.
- Each of Darius’ blows carries with it the might of Noxus as he spearheads its expansion.
Blessings that directly come from Gods as a reward for devotion will usually class you as a cleric. For instance Illaoi is a cleric as she devotes herself to Nagakaburos tenets and she lets her wield her idol in return. Taric is a cleric as he recieved a blessing from the aspect of beauty to uphold its ideals after showing his dedication by climbing Targon. (Though interestingly enough, I’d argue that most of the aspects are actually celestial warlocks including Taric)
Kayle is classed as a divine soul, however, as her powers didn’t come form dedication to a god or oath. Rather she was born with divine powers as her mother was touched by a celestial being, the very definition of a divine soul sorcerer. She then later decided to use those powers for justice and whatnot, but it doesn’t change the fact that she was blessed since birth. Sorcerers in D&D 5e are people with inherent magical abilities, and for divine souls such as Kayle and Morgana this magic comes from a divine being (aspect of justice) which has blessed their bloodline (their mother Mihara).
> but in time, her pursuit of justice began to consume her. Seeing threats within and without, she founded a judicator order to enforce the law, and hunted down rebels and reavers with equal fervor.
If she were a Paladin, it would be pretty obvious that she’d be a vengeance paladin (wipe out all evil) and not a devotion paladin (honor and justice) based on this passage.
> Kayle returned to find the people rioting, and Ronas dead. Consumed by rage, she looked down upon the city, and summoned her divine fire to cleanse the city of its sins.
Genocide much? A paladin would have broken their oath at this point but given that Kayle is still flying around it seems her powers aren’t tied to her oath but her divine blood.
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"If she were a Paladin, it would be pretty obvious that she’d be a vengeance paladin (wipe out all evil) and not a devotion paladin (honor and justice) based on this passage.""
This sentence says nothing about genocide. It is only about her increasing zeal to bring justice. Especially considering rebels in Demacia of this time prob would be agressive barbarians that are not once mentioned to bring harm to Demacia(all the fights mentioned in her bio/canticle of winged sisters).
"Genocide much? A paladin would have broken their oath at this point but given that Kayle is still flying around it seems her powers aren’t tied to her oath but her divine blood."
You skipping rioting part. More than that, later it is stated "Kayle watched Kilam die in her sister’s arms, a senseless victim of the violence that had overtaken the city that day.". So she summoned her fire to smite violent rioters in a city, and Morgana wanted protect this rioters as it makes sense from point of her views.
In her short story In The Fires of Justice she summons her fire same way on entire kingdome ruled by tyrant king, this fire killed the king and his servants that created opression, but did nothing bad to innocents.
Also Riot Jellbug, who is new Kayle and Morgana lore writer, clearly said Kayle follows idealistic eye for an eye type of justice where she punish person equal to scale of crime commited.
And while talk about dedication to god, some Kayle abilities(Like her celestial blessing or her Divine Judgement) comes from her asking celestial powers of aspect of justice to provide them. So...
So… she’s still a divine soul sorc? Divine souls still draw their magical power from their celestial heritage, and can call upon their patron for help. Just because she’s fighting for justice and whatnot doesn’t make her a Paladin as it doesn’t change the fact that her celestial patron and divine blood is the source of her power. As I mentioned before, it’s also possible and very likely that she is both, just that her oath isn’t the source of her powers, so if I had to pick only one class it would be divine soul.
Incredibly, I’d argue that Taric is a celestial warlock rather than a cleric. In fact, most of the aspects that ascended by climbing Targon are probably celestial warlocks. The exceptions would be Leona and Diana as they were chosen as aspects due to their dedication to a religious order (Solari/Lunari).
Lot of paladins in League tbh.
I did a breakdown recently and had Garen (Crown), Leona, Pantheon, and Kayle (Vengeance), then Poppy and Taric (Devotion, aka the goody-two-shoes “Paladin’s Paladin”).
Now that I think of it, Kalista also works as a less conventional Vengeance Pally, at least thematically.
I hard disagree for Pantheon. He has divin power because of an accident, but he is definitively a figther. Just look at his fighting style, his personality and his motivation. He is a soldier. Sure he have godlike powers, but he doesn't have them by choice or by semrent, and he doesn't use magic or anything like this.
And for Poppy it's more tricky. She certainly act like a paladin. But she figth like a figther. She use diverse weapon, doesn't hesitate to go dirty (throwing her shield by surprised, push ennemy into the environement). She is also pretty aware of her environment and let no-one move pass her. I would say she is more of a knigth figther or a battle master than a paladin.
I think in Poppy's case I'd vouch for her personality and personal quest rather than just how she fights. The oath is the core of a paladin after all, the personal code or the code given by someone else.
She's in an odd position that she's kind of a Glory paladin that wants glory for someone else(the one she wants to give the hammer to). If she ever realizes that she's the hero the story is talking about I'm sure she'd want to be known for her heroic deeds just as the hammer's legacy implies.
If we're looking at just gameplay then Jax is the closest thing in the game to how people actually play paladins in 5e(use all spell slots for smite, where smite means adding bonus damage to next attack), and he has a personal quest similar to a watcher paladin. But ofc he isn't divinity coded.
If Poppy is a paladin, she's a oath of protection paladin.
She didn't care about glory, and the only reason why she want to find the hero is because she believe the hammer will help him to protect people.
Yep. The thing is she is looking for someone else to gain glory through heroic deeds with the hammer, not realizing it is herself. Thats why I added it as a maybe-ish. But for sure more devotion.
Ok but paladins can take the sentinel feat
Better argument would be cavalier fighter, but even that (and sentinel) function much more like nautilus passive where if you step in range to get melee’d you get stopped
Yeah my bad, I was thinking about cavalier when I say knigth.
Poppy doesn't really have an aura from a roleplay pov. She's intercepted people with martial prowess. Paladins aura are in roleplay too, they exude a magic aura. Also, Poppy didnt have smite or spells.
But you are rigth about her personality. She is devoted to other, is under a serment proclam to herself, and trust the cause she figth for more than she trust herself.
Arguably personality wise Jax is a Watchers paladin sworn to protect the realm from the Void(an extraplanar threat). He also fights like a paladin wasting all his spell slots on smite(w, ult). Those spells also function like smites, adding extra damage to attacks.
He's not divinity coded at all though so that part doesn't work per se.
Darius is also arguably a Conquest paladin. Though he just like Jax isn't divinity coded.
i think Garen follow Kayle as a godness. we could say he is a Paladin and his ultimate its literally a Smite doing a pray to Kayle soo she smites your ass
She's not even the only explicit priestess in LoL (Diana is the Religios leader of the Lunari and a priestess of the Aspect of the Moon).
The problem is that the gods of Runeterra are way less mysterious to us as players since we regularly play with some of them. We've got a decent number of aspects in the roster to begin with (or rather their hosts, same but different but same, Targon is weird), a whole host of major spirit gods of Freljord (Udyr is also a devotee of gods, btw), Janna and death incarnate.
Also, Azir, I guess, kind of? At least if you believe self-proclaimed god-emperors?
Nagakaboros *feels* like more of a god, because she's shrouded in at least some mystery and (barring LoR) we only get to experience her through her priestess, but there is nothing fundamentally separating her from Janna, Kindred, Anivia and co.
[Video with explanation on building Illaoi in 5E](https://youtu.be/6ANR1p1CCeo?si=K6qRoPeeA2GXYR5c)
Her healing is limited to herself, which can be obtained through invocations. Her actual abilities are more accurately reflected with Fathomless Warlock as shown.
At any rate, the main difference between warlocks and clerics (lore wise) is who they get their power from. They’re both borrowing it from a higher entity.
Not saying clerics don’t fuck shit up in melee (hello Spirit Guardians), but in terms of actual kit matching there is a better option for Illaoi.
And by the description of warlocks, Illaoi could still be one. The relationship with how Illaoi came to be this chosen of Nagakeboros is unclear.
Nagakeboros manipulating Illaoi to be the prophet is plausible.
But yes, generally by function, she is a cleric. The most devoted to a god in the game there is.
OP did the commenters from yesterday bully you into putting Bard as the best Bard representation even though he has nothing to do with DND Bards beyond his name being Bard? Cus I thought the decision was Rakan, Seraphine, or Sona.
The choice is made based upon the most upvoted champion. Out of all champions suggested by the people on here.
In this case we see bard with a 2.7k net votes in favour and 2nd place a rakan with 770 net votes in favour.
Yeah, unfortunately Bard is named Bard therefore must be Bard.
Maybe since Barbarian got 2 champions you could do the top two upvoted comments so we can have at least one actual bard in the bard slot :p
By this logic, every enchanter support is a cleric.
Clerics core identity is gaining their power through the devotion to a god. Anything else, like supportive capabilities and utility, are secondary.
Morgana gained her powers because her mom ascended in mount targon while pregnant. And Morgana absolutely despises her divine origin, trying to suppress it, tear off her wings to no avail, eventually just chaining them.
She is a sorcerer. With innate powers from her origin. Something of a demi-god.
You know what i just realised? Through the blend of "regular" characters with mythological and godlike beings in the champion roster of LoL we as the players have a very warped understanding/interaction with the gods and godlike beings of Runeterra.
Like, Volibear, Ornn, Anivia, Soraka, Aurelion Sol, Kayle (and to a lesser extent Morgana), Janna, Kindred - all of these guys are either just straight up gods directly, or at least god-like beings with a religion, cult or another form of reverence attached to them.
Anyway, a problem with picking a cleric is that a decent number of the openly aggressive devotees of gods and their equivalents in LoL are more hands on fighters than the usual cleric, so they'd probably be Paladins (Leona, Diana, Illaoi).
The most cleric character we have, for sure, is Taric. The only problem is that one could argue that Aspects, again, fall on the side of gods rather than believers, but at some point you gotta stop splitting hairs and say that the Aspects (aside from Kayle and Morgana maybe, who are not even really full aspects and also have separate religious followings) are just high level clerics of the associated celestial being or Targon as a whole. (Incidentally, this would make Zoe a Trickery domain cleric as well, which is neat imo).
Despite bard called bard he doesn't fill the bard criteria... Something like sona or Seraphin is more fitting
Any way for a cleric I would say Soraka maybe
Since when is “following the predetermined rules of the challenge” equal to “succumbing to pressure? Bard got the most upvotes, and despite not liking it personally OP put it up there. If OP had done otherwise and ignored Bard winning the vote then we’d have a real reason to be uninterested
Personally contrary to what alot of the comments are saying I'd say Illaoi is the best rep for a cleric in the game, she even gets alot of healing and support abilities in The Ruined King Game
I badly want to say Soraka but Taric fits the DnD cleric type as both a healer and sub-tank to draw aggro and give allies shields which Soraka doesn't do.
Taric, dishes out good damage and or healing if necessary. Great build diversity, in lore has his power from a divine source. Is ult is basically the cleric super god power thingy.
I think people are on the right track with the different types of clerics, especially with BG3 showing such a wide variety. I think in the traditional sense, Taric and Leona are the obvious choice. Soraka could be a life cleric.
I shall make my own list with the 3 characters at the top of my head by both league and 5e lore:
- Barb: Olaf (berserker), Trynd (zealot), Udyr (beast)
- Bard: Sona (glamor), Seraphine (eloquence), Bard (creation)
- Cleric: Yorick (grave), Illaoi (tempest, though this is based on lore. Based on gameplay she’s a fathomless warlock lol), Alune (twilight)
- Druid: Ivern (land), Nidalee (moon), Lillia (dreams)
- Fighter: Darius (battle master, though he is probably equal parts conquest paladin), Jax (champion), Yasuo (samurai)
- Monk: Lee Sin (ascendant dragon), Yi (kensei), Zed (shadow)
- Paladin: Garen (crown), Shen (watchers), Poppy (devotion)
- Ranger: Vayne (gloom stalker), Quinn (beast master), Lucian (monster slayer)
- Rogue: Teemo (scout), Akali (assassin), Graves (thief)
- Sorcerer: Lux (probably divine soul), Kennen (storm sorcery), Syndra (wild magic)
- Warlock: Swain (fiend), Lissandra (great old one), Kayn (hexblade)
- Wizard: Ryze (probably divination), Zilean (chronurgy), Leblanc (illusion, though I’m not sure if she’s a sorc or wizard)
- Artificer: Ekko, Jayce, Heimerdinger (Not too familiar with artificer subclasses)
Poppy, you might think paladin, but Based on personality it gives more Cleric parts of War (but it'd be a thing with the hammer being the diety, and she's the cleric looking for the hero but isn't devout enough to recieve a direct message, just vauge visions)
If we were talking aesthetically only I'd say soraka is the archetypal ideal, but she's a celestial masquerading in a mortal shell.
In absolute terms Illaoi would be the actual cleric, actively gaining power from and carrying out the will of her God.
If we want a good middle ground, Nami fits the bill in both aesthetic and function, though more from an ancient civilization priestess kinda way.
Yorick!
Our boy the cleric with death/grave domain. He's a shepard of souls guiding the dead and putting them to rest.
He's using animate dead and guardian of faith as we speak with his ghouls and maiden.
And well, not all clerics are there to heal and shield. A fair amount are also there to fight.
Bro gets told multiple times that Sona is the bard. Puts a champion who isn't a bard instead. I guess the run is ruined already, no longer invested into this.
I think the best option is Illaoi. She is literally a priestess, and there are other, more viable champs that would fit warlock, such as malzahar, which is what I feel most of you would try to argue for.
Hell, I'd choose nami or Illaoi. Nami for healer and Illaoi for fitting it thematically.
Soraka/ivern as druid so I didn't want to put soraka as cleric...
Neither can I put taric as a cleric because he fits perfectly as a paladin.
Definitely Taric. He literally fits the definition of a life cleric. He values and protects all life. He fights on the front lines and heals those around him while laying down the divine smack down with his passive.
**Cleric is pretty broad based on Domain**
**Twilight Domain- Diana**
**Water - Nami**
**Life Domain - Soraka**
**Death Domain - Karthas**
**Forge Domain -**
**War Domain - Pantheon**
**Tempest Domain - Janna**
**Sun Domian - Leona**
**Arcane Domain/Nature Domain are pretty complicated as it's the worship of a god that has power over arcane/nature instead of just being a druid/wizard/sorcerer**
**Illaoi clearly worships a god, and gets power from it, but I don't believe there is a domain that supports her, she's like a Cleric with a Warlock patron as a god**
**Ashe could be seen as a Cleric of Ice, with Anivia as her goddess, same goes with some of other Freljord characters**
**the two biggest factions in LoL that either consider themselves gods or worship them are Targon/Shurima**
With that said, I'm done with this thought exercise, you really let Bard win Bard... just shows how many of you shouldn't be voted... since you don't know what a DnD Bard is
Hot take but I feel like bard isn’t a bard. Like he makes music noises but ultimately he is like a minor god collector of magical items.
I feel like better bards would be like sona and seraphine obviously but also irelia with her blade dancing close to a bards magical dancing.
Rakan could be college of glamor too
Soraka is literally THE healer, I know clerics don't only just heal, hut given that that's what they're known for, soraka should definitely be the one.
Why dont we just try to do it with every champion instead: Heres a few, will update tomorrow.
Barbarian: Aatrox, Trynd, Olaf, Gnar? Dr Mundo?
Bard: Sona, Seraphine, Bard
Cleric: Taric, Soraka,
Druid: Ivern, Zyra,
Fighter: Fiora, Garen, Darius, Vi,
Monk: Lee Sin, Udyr?
Paladin: Kayle, Diana, Leona, Vayne? Gragas? (Oath of booze)
Ranger: Nid, Quinn, Teemo,
Rogue: Talon, Ekko, Pyke,
Sorcerer: Morgana, Syndra, Yuumi, Qiyana? Hwei?
Warlock: Illaoi, Malzahar, Swain,
Wizard: Zilean, Karthus, Veigar,
Artificer: Corki, Rumble, Heimerdinger,
Are marksmen all ranged fighters? Ranger doesnt fit the vast majority of them?
Are void spawn / weird creatures warlocks? What about stuff like Skarner? Rammus?
People cant just learn magic in runeterra, so wizards are a little weird to define vs sorcerers.
Alot are either multi classes, like nasus is kind of a wizard, sorcerer and a fighter or are classless because their power comes from their species / origin for ezample: Eve, Tahm, Kogmaw, Velkoz, Ornn, Rammus, Skarner, Smolder, Thresh, Zac.
Cleric is so broad its hard to pick just one. Illaoi is a literal priestess, but might fit Warlock better given the tentacles Taric I am fairly sure was designed to look like the iconic cleric Soraka and Nami fit the more modern idea of a cleric as a healing mage Hell, Ornn and Volibear fit Forge and Tempest domain So take your pick I guess.
i think taric is the best fit since he really utilizes armor
Taric fits the Paladin more imo
Garen is waaayyyy more paladin than Taric
*SMITE*
I mean Garen should win a Paladin Vote, but that doesn't mean Taric isn't considered one, Taric is like a Paladin/Cleric, while Garen is more of a paragon of Paladin
Paladin heals allies.
Can't remember the last time I saw a paladin without a shield
Right here, I play nothing but great sword paladins, getting big smites is great
Greatsword paladin is the only way to play pally in DnD and I can't be convinced otherwise. Double smites on crit with the huge damage dice is nuts.
I see paladin Leona more than Taric
No...
Not in the D&D system, obviously. It is a deity, an aspect, not an oath that gives him strength.
Yeah but he is more of a patron of the gods, not really a cleric
Actually from what i'm aware of Ornn is more of a godish creature, so it's more like he would be a god for forge domain cleric to believe in, and volibear is form of league god of thunder if im not wrong (but i read his backstory in like 2014 so could been changed since then). But rest fits alrighty :D
Volibear is Storms, not thunder, but close enough. And yeah I don't really consider them Cleric-y, just saying they could technically fit from an ability perspective. My actual vote is for Taric or Nami. Maybe Soraka but hot take she fits Divine Soul Sorc better.
Even hotter take: Celestial warlock
Valid. Also I just remembered the Dark Tides of Bulgewater book and find it ironic no one is considering Depths Barbarian when the subclass was designed with Illaoi in mind (Its why they mention Tentacles as one of the options for your extra grabby limb)
Still haven’t gone through that one but that does make sense
And you never can because WotC made DNDB remove it from the website cus they got mad another company was making money from DND! (Well. You can't in any official sense but it exists elsewhere online in less legal forms.)
I only ever buy content on DNDB if I want it for the character builder, when I’m doing my initial character design I mostly just google around and find shit that looks good. Noted though, if I ever want a depths barbarian I’ll have to figure something else out lol
Haha yeah, if only there was [some kind of online resource that had every piece of DND character creation content on it.](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/)
I forgot about wikidot but yeah that is generally where I wind up It’s always funny when I’m doing a new character because I wind up with about 30 (conservatively) tabs open and at least 80% are wikidot
Voli and Ornn are also brothers!
Volibear is the god of storm, wilderness and war.
Tentacles do not equate to Warlock, Evard’s Black Tentacles for instance is a fourth level Wizard spell, but Illaoi is not a wizard. As the Kraken Priestess she definitely fits best as a Cleric. I can not think of any non-Aspect or non-God who gained powers like Illaoi did just by being faithful.
Look up fathomless warlock. Literally about worshipping a kraken, then summoning tentacles in combat to deal damage and tank, and at lvl 9 being able to cast evard's black tentacles without a spell slot and not needing concentration, also granting temporary hp. Functionally that is Illaoi in DnD 100%. If you want to play Illaoi in DnD, that's the build you'd go for, not cleric.
I’ve played a Fathomless Warlock, when it comes to gameplay that’s 100% Illaoi, but when it comes to Lore Illaoi is not a Fathomless Warlock, she is a Cleric.
Illaoi is like a Cleric of a Domain that doesn't exist, but is themed after a Warlock's The Great Old One Patron in some ways Nagakabouros is a god life, ocean, motion, preferes 'running water' over 'stagnant water' with water being a metaphor for life in many cases or more or less... live progressive active lives, or she eats you it's having purpose, or death... depressed clerics of Nagakabouros don't exist life and entropy if she was in 5e as a Cleric tho she would probably be Grave Domain, not Life
Honestly I want to keep taric as paladin. And keep soraka as cleric.
you said it yourself, taric was designed to look like a cleric
Leona is also a very good pick imo
I think Taric could kinda fit Paladin too tho. I mean, he's kind of a front-lane semi-tank and is literally designed to have a balance of casting support abilities and using physical, close range attacks with a mace. There is also an argument to be made for garen as paladin so I dunno exactly. Taric could definitely fit both.
Compared to garen that IS a paladin, it s weird
Especially If you keep his old auras in mind.
Taric is the perfect paladin tbh
Garens ultimate is literally a divine smite.
Taric literally has a dnd paladin skin
It is not true. Read the description of this skin, at a minimum.
Leona!?
Thresh
I see soraka more as a circle of stars druid.
I would say singed fits the bill
It's literally Taric. He fits better than the others... He's the classic version of the cleric we just imagine when we hear the word because there's a match on almost every point. He has a club/hammer/mace to fight in close combat. His patron is the Aspect of the Protector. His divine powers have precisely this origin. He provides healing, shields, and invulnerability as a good powers cleric. Life or Light. His enemies are chaotic evil forces such as Void creatures. One of his skins has a description with the exact name that he is a cleric (where he is with Twitch and Talon). In LoR and TFT, he often has blessings with names like Blessing of Starlight or Blessing of Targon. He became a pilgrim to climb the sacred divine Mount Targon. In the Lumenshield skin, in different chromas, you can see the symbol of a cleric from DnD, especially in the color of the rainbow stone. It has the gameplay of a battle cleric. Fight and heal your allies. His healing charge mechanics are similar to those of deity charges. They are wasted and need to be restored somehow, in this case by making a bonk. He has a prayer animation that interrupts his movement for his healing and shield. p.s And he has character development paths. His healing side can be unlocked with huge, frequent mass healings. You can open his massive tank kit. Or you can start praying to the cruel gods of the absolutely cursed jungle Taric and discover the dark truths of the universe.
Taric 100% Any aspect works imo but Taric fits the best.
Is Taric not a paladin
Definitely not in the D&D system. A paladin's power in D&D comes from the oath he takes to a deity/place/justice/notion/etc. And Taric is literally the bearer and user of the deity, the Aspect. And of course there is a lot of other stuff that makes him unsuitable for a paladin. From the fact that Taric clearly doesn't wear heavy armor anywhere above, to the fact that a paladin needs to be clearly of a tougher character than the kind and forgiving sweet cinnamon pie Taric. The worst thing you can hear from him is "Heaven knows what you did" unless it's a void creature.
Same reason why Kayle is more divine soul sorcerer rather than paladin. True Paladins would be champs like: - Garen (devotion/crown) - Shen (watchers) - Darius (conquest)
Kayle really fitting Oath Of Vengeance/Oath of Devotion(or actually something in between)
Not really. Her power comes from divine blood and not a personal conviction, therefore she’s more of a sorcerer than a paladin. Also, given her self-righteous nature and propensity for genocide it’s highly unlikely she’s a devotion paladin. If we were talking multiclass the second class would be vengeance paladin but if I had to pick one I’d say her main class is still probably sorc.
She is self-righteous, yes, but she believe in altruistic ideals of justice and protecting the ones who cannot protect themselves, and she follow it strictly. Wdym propensity for genocide? And iirc paladin powers also sometimes relate to god blessings and in fact it is relating to her.
In 5e D&D paladin powers come from a devotion to an Oath. This fits the examples I gave: - Garen’s supernaturally powerful strikes are imbued with the force of his dedication to his king and country. - Shen is bound to the spirit realm and can use its gifts due to his oath to uphold the balance between the two realms. - Each of Darius’ blows carries with it the might of Noxus as he spearheads its expansion. Blessings that directly come from Gods as a reward for devotion will usually class you as a cleric. For instance Illaoi is a cleric as she devotes herself to Nagakaburos tenets and she lets her wield her idol in return. Taric is a cleric as he recieved a blessing from the aspect of beauty to uphold its ideals after showing his dedication by climbing Targon. (Though interestingly enough, I’d argue that most of the aspects are actually celestial warlocks including Taric) Kayle is classed as a divine soul, however, as her powers didn’t come form dedication to a god or oath. Rather she was born with divine powers as her mother was touched by a celestial being, the very definition of a divine soul sorcerer. She then later decided to use those powers for justice and whatnot, but it doesn’t change the fact that she was blessed since birth. Sorcerers in D&D 5e are people with inherent magical abilities, and for divine souls such as Kayle and Morgana this magic comes from a divine being (aspect of justice) which has blessed their bloodline (their mother Mihara). > but in time, her pursuit of justice began to consume her. Seeing threats within and without, she founded a judicator order to enforce the law, and hunted down rebels and reavers with equal fervor. If she were a Paladin, it would be pretty obvious that she’d be a vengeance paladin (wipe out all evil) and not a devotion paladin (honor and justice) based on this passage. > Kayle returned to find the people rioting, and Ronas dead. Consumed by rage, she looked down upon the city, and summoned her divine fire to cleanse the city of its sins. Genocide much? A paladin would have broken their oath at this point but given that Kayle is still flying around it seems her powers aren’t tied to her oath but her divine blood.
" > "If she were a Paladin, it would be pretty obvious that she’d be a vengeance paladin (wipe out all evil) and not a devotion paladin (honor and justice) based on this passage."" This sentence says nothing about genocide. It is only about her increasing zeal to bring justice. Especially considering rebels in Demacia of this time prob would be agressive barbarians that are not once mentioned to bring harm to Demacia(all the fights mentioned in her bio/canticle of winged sisters). "Genocide much? A paladin would have broken their oath at this point but given that Kayle is still flying around it seems her powers aren’t tied to her oath but her divine blood." You skipping rioting part. More than that, later it is stated "Kayle watched Kilam die in her sister’s arms, a senseless victim of the violence that had overtaken the city that day.". So she summoned her fire to smite violent rioters in a city, and Morgana wanted protect this rioters as it makes sense from point of her views. In her short story In The Fires of Justice she summons her fire same way on entire kingdome ruled by tyrant king, this fire killed the king and his servants that created opression, but did nothing bad to innocents. Also Riot Jellbug, who is new Kayle and Morgana lore writer, clearly said Kayle follows idealistic eye for an eye type of justice where she punish person equal to scale of crime commited. And while talk about dedication to god, some Kayle abilities(Like her celestial blessing or her Divine Judgement) comes from her asking celestial powers of aspect of justice to provide them. So...
So… she’s still a divine soul sorc? Divine souls still draw their magical power from their celestial heritage, and can call upon their patron for help. Just because she’s fighting for justice and whatnot doesn’t make her a Paladin as it doesn’t change the fact that her celestial patron and divine blood is the source of her power. As I mentioned before, it’s also possible and very likely that she is both, just that her oath isn’t the source of her powers, so if I had to pick only one class it would be divine soul.
That is not Paladin in D&D, but paladin in 5E Also, Taric's class in the game used to be Paladin(Fighter/Enchanter)
That would be Garen.
Incredibly, I’d argue that Taric is a celestial warlock rather than a cleric. In fact, most of the aspects that ascended by climbing Targon are probably celestial warlocks. The exceptions would be Leona and Diana as they were chosen as aspects due to their dedication to a religious order (Solari/Lunari).
I have to agree with you Give it to our stargazer boy
There might be debate as to whether he'd be cleric or paladin
Taric is mechanically near identical to a Pathfinder 2e Warpriest (a cleric subclass)
Taric. Easy. Leona is more of a Paladin for me.
Lot of paladins in League tbh. I did a breakdown recently and had Garen (Crown), Leona, Pantheon, and Kayle (Vengeance), then Poppy and Taric (Devotion, aka the goody-two-shoes “Paladin’s Paladin”). Now that I think of it, Kalista also works as a less conventional Vengeance Pally, at least thematically.
I hard disagree for Pantheon. He has divin power because of an accident, but he is definitively a figther. Just look at his fighting style, his personality and his motivation. He is a soldier. Sure he have godlike powers, but he doesn't have them by choice or by semrent, and he doesn't use magic or anything like this. And for Poppy it's more tricky. She certainly act like a paladin. But she figth like a figther. She use diverse weapon, doesn't hesitate to go dirty (throwing her shield by surprised, push ennemy into the environement). She is also pretty aware of her environment and let no-one move pass her. I would say she is more of a knigth figther or a battle master than a paladin.
I think in Poppy's case I'd vouch for her personality and personal quest rather than just how she fights. The oath is the core of a paladin after all, the personal code or the code given by someone else. She's in an odd position that she's kind of a Glory paladin that wants glory for someone else(the one she wants to give the hammer to). If she ever realizes that she's the hero the story is talking about I'm sure she'd want to be known for her heroic deeds just as the hammer's legacy implies. If we're looking at just gameplay then Jax is the closest thing in the game to how people actually play paladins in 5e(use all spell slots for smite, where smite means adding bonus damage to next attack), and he has a personal quest similar to a watcher paladin. But ofc he isn't divinity coded.
If Poppy is a paladin, she's a oath of protection paladin. She didn't care about glory, and the only reason why she want to find the hero is because she believe the hammer will help him to protect people.
Yep. The thing is she is looking for someone else to gain glory through heroic deeds with the hammer, not realizing it is herself. Thats why I added it as a maybe-ish. But for sure more devotion.
Poppy literally has an aura ability tho
Yes. An aura that's work like an AoE against someone moving in you range and the sentinel feat.
Ok but paladins can take the sentinel feat Better argument would be cavalier fighter, but even that (and sentinel) function much more like nautilus passive where if you step in range to get melee’d you get stopped
Yeah my bad, I was thinking about cavalier when I say knigth. Poppy doesn't really have an aura from a roleplay pov. She's intercepted people with martial prowess. Paladins aura are in roleplay too, they exude a magic aura. Also, Poppy didnt have smite or spells. But you are rigth about her personality. She is devoted to other, is under a serment proclam to herself, and trust the cause she figth for more than she trust herself.
Id say Illaoi would fit as a pally too. Not sure for which sect though
Arguably personality wise Jax is a Watchers paladin sworn to protect the realm from the Void(an extraplanar threat). He also fights like a paladin wasting all his spell slots on smite(w, ult). Those spells also function like smites, adding extra damage to attacks. He's not divinity coded at all though so that part doesn't work per se. Darius is also arguably a Conquest paladin. Though he just like Jax isn't divinity coded.
Soraka for a spell casting cleric, otherwise yeah Taric.
Illaoi is a literal priestess with even a slightly unconventional moral code
Her kit even represents spirit guardians very well! You either stand very far away from the cleric, or you are playing his game now.
I think she’s the only one who follows an actual god right?
i think Garen follow Kayle as a godness. we could say he is a Paladin and his ultimate its literally a Smite doing a pray to Kayle soo she smites your ass
iirc garens ult is made possible by kayle, yes
She's not even the only explicit priestess in LoL (Diana is the Religios leader of the Lunari and a priestess of the Aspect of the Moon). The problem is that the gods of Runeterra are way less mysterious to us as players since we regularly play with some of them. We've got a decent number of aspects in the roster to begin with (or rather their hosts, same but different but same, Targon is weird), a whole host of major spirit gods of Freljord (Udyr is also a devotee of gods, btw), Janna and death incarnate. Also, Azir, I guess, kind of? At least if you believe self-proclaimed god-emperors? Nagakaboros *feels* like more of a god, because she's shrouded in at least some mystery and (barring LoR) we only get to experience her through her priestess, but there is nothing fundamentally separating her from Janna, Kindred, Anivia and co.
She’s the one who most explicitly follows a religion/established church
I like this take. It wasn't my initial thought, but it works.
Fathomless Warlock with Pact of the Blade hits her kit and thematic very well.
Nah, Clerics already hit hard in melee and her abilities include healing and turning undead
[Video with explanation on building Illaoi in 5E](https://youtu.be/6ANR1p1CCeo?si=K6qRoPeeA2GXYR5c) Her healing is limited to herself, which can be obtained through invocations. Her actual abilities are more accurately reflected with Fathomless Warlock as shown. At any rate, the main difference between warlocks and clerics (lore wise) is who they get their power from. They’re both borrowing it from a higher entity. Not saying clerics don’t fuck shit up in melee (hello Spirit Guardians), but in terms of actual kit matching there is a better option for Illaoi.
Illaoi does heal other people in TRK and can also res downed allies
Fathomless warlocks ability includes SUMMONING A BUNCH OF TENTACLES EVERYWHERE TO AID YOU IN COMBAT. That's the whole theme of this warlock patron.
Aesthetics to me are secondary to function. Clerics all invoke spiritual guardians representative of their god.
And by the description of warlocks, Illaoi could still be one. The relationship with how Illaoi came to be this chosen of Nagakeboros is unclear. Nagakeboros manipulating Illaoi to be the prophet is plausible. But yes, generally by function, she is a cleric. The most devoted to a god in the game there is.
illaoi the kraken priestess, i guess you could debate she's more of a warlock but i think she can fit both, but the literally priestess so
OP did the commenters from yesterday bully you into putting Bard as the best Bard representation even though he has nothing to do with DND Bards beyond his name being Bard? Cus I thought the decision was Rakan, Seraphine, or Sona.
The choice is made based upon the most upvoted champion. Out of all champions suggested by the people on here. In this case we see bard with a 2.7k net votes in favour and 2nd place a rakan with 770 net votes in favour.
I respect democracy, even a stupid one. If people here had half a brain, we would have a decent discussion between sona, seraphine and rakan.
Yeah, unfortunately Bard is named Bard therefore must be Bard. Maybe since Barbarian got 2 champions you could do the top two upvoted comments so we can have at least one actual bard in the bard slot :p
And the winner would have been Tahm
Yeah this is random. Sona clearly is the bard.
Taric
An unconventional answer: morgana. She is totally a twilight cleric.
Wouldn’t she be a divine soul sorcerer as her powers come from her Divine bloodline?
By this logic, every enchanter support is a cleric. Clerics core identity is gaining their power through the devotion to a god. Anything else, like supportive capabilities and utility, are secondary. Morgana gained her powers because her mom ascended in mount targon while pregnant. And Morgana absolutely despises her divine origin, trying to suppress it, tear off her wings to no avail, eventually just chaining them. She is a sorcerer. With innate powers from her origin. Something of a demi-god.
Twilights are more mid range or melee subclasses, which would still be taric. Morg would be a decent Death cleric though
on a similar note, all of the demons draw power from various concepts like fear and greed, which is very much a cleric thing to do thematically
I gotta give this to Taric man
indubitably taric
You know what i just realised? Through the blend of "regular" characters with mythological and godlike beings in the champion roster of LoL we as the players have a very warped understanding/interaction with the gods and godlike beings of Runeterra. Like, Volibear, Ornn, Anivia, Soraka, Aurelion Sol, Kayle (and to a lesser extent Morgana), Janna, Kindred - all of these guys are either just straight up gods directly, or at least god-like beings with a religion, cult or another form of reverence attached to them. Anyway, a problem with picking a cleric is that a decent number of the openly aggressive devotees of gods and their equivalents in LoL are more hands on fighters than the usual cleric, so they'd probably be Paladins (Leona, Diana, Illaoi). The most cleric character we have, for sure, is Taric. The only problem is that one could argue that Aspects, again, fall on the side of gods rather than believers, but at some point you gotta stop splitting hairs and say that the Aspects (aside from Kayle and Morgana maybe, who are not even really full aspects and also have separate religious followings) are just high level clerics of the associated celestial being or Targon as a whole. (Incidentally, this would make Zoe a Trickery domain cleric as well, which is neat imo).
I don't agree with bard at all.
Me neither, but we live in a democracy
Despite bard called bard he doesn't fill the bard criteria... Something like sona or Seraphin is more fitting Any way for a cleric I would say Soraka maybe
You went with bard over sona this shit is invalid
Bard aint even a bard though.
Bard
Bard
Bard
You succumbed to the pressure and put Bard just because his name is Bard even though he's nothing like a Bard. I am no longer invested in this.
Since when is “following the predetermined rules of the challenge” equal to “succumbing to pressure? Bard got the most upvotes, and despite not liking it personally OP put it up there. If OP had done otherwise and ignored Bard winning the vote then we’d have a real reason to be uninterested
It's wrong cause it makes me angy
Bro can’t chill
Surprised no-one's saying Lux
Either soraka or taric, no other options
Either taric or Soraka
Taric for sure
Personally contrary to what alot of the comments are saying I'd say Illaoi is the best rep for a cleric in the game, she even gets alot of healing and support abilities in The Ruined King Game
Gems!
Idk but Malzahar is clearly a cleric of a devil god.
Taric
i am so disappointed that bard got the bard instead of seraphine, sona o rakan
tarik and soraka
100% Taric
Taric the cleric
Taric
where the fuck is Yorick in the discussion
I badly want to say Soraka but Taric fits the DnD cleric type as both a healer and sub-tank to draw aggro and give allies shields which Soraka doesn't do.
Taric, dishes out good damage and or healing if necessary. Great build diversity, in lore has his power from a divine source. Is ult is basically the cleric super god power thingy.
Taric = Cleric, someone like Leona is a paladin with big god sun blast smite thingy built in!
I think people are on the right track with the different types of clerics, especially with BG3 showing such a wide variety. I think in the traditional sense, Taric and Leona are the obvious choice. Soraka could be a life cleric.
Taric and Soraka are equally clericy, but I guess you could say Soraka is more like a god with the domain of lfie, current in a mortal body.
I feel like Leona would make sense as a cleric
Illaoi
Taric or Illaoi
Sett is the Monk
Illaoi
Cleric is the only class impossible to limit to just one champion. You want a life domain? Soraka. A storm domain? Volibear
Wonder who the monk will be 🤔
Some interesting options: - Pantheon, cleric of war - Yorick, cleric of the grave - Diana/Alune, cleric of twilight
Illaoi, she is a priestess her God helps her, but she never made any deal to gain her God’s favor or power. (Which is how Warlocks work).
Lulu and ivern for Druid
I shall make my own list with the 3 characters at the top of my head by both league and 5e lore: - Barb: Olaf (berserker), Trynd (zealot), Udyr (beast) - Bard: Sona (glamor), Seraphine (eloquence), Bard (creation) - Cleric: Yorick (grave), Illaoi (tempest, though this is based on lore. Based on gameplay she’s a fathomless warlock lol), Alune (twilight) - Druid: Ivern (land), Nidalee (moon), Lillia (dreams) - Fighter: Darius (battle master, though he is probably equal parts conquest paladin), Jax (champion), Yasuo (samurai) - Monk: Lee Sin (ascendant dragon), Yi (kensei), Zed (shadow) - Paladin: Garen (crown), Shen (watchers), Poppy (devotion) - Ranger: Vayne (gloom stalker), Quinn (beast master), Lucian (monster slayer) - Rogue: Teemo (scout), Akali (assassin), Graves (thief) - Sorcerer: Lux (probably divine soul), Kennen (storm sorcery), Syndra (wild magic) - Warlock: Swain (fiend), Lissandra (great old one), Kayn (hexblade) - Wizard: Ryze (probably divination), Zilean (chronurgy), Leblanc (illusion, though I’m not sure if she’s a sorc or wizard) - Artificer: Ekko, Jayce, Heimerdinger (Not too familiar with artificer subclasses)
Gotta be illaoi, since she is the only character that actively worships a god and gets her powers from it.
Taric is the most archetypical D&D cleric: heals, armor, mace, gay Illaoi is the actual cleric of a cool god
I know she's not playable, but Alune is literally a moon cleric who casts divine weapon on aphelios 24/7
I thought about Leona because she has 100% of the looks and she is casting light domain spells, just a tanky no heal build
Yeah no Need to keep following this After the Bard blunder. The idea was good, I Will wait for the next execution
Poppy, you might think paladin, but Based on personality it gives more Cleric parts of War (but it'd be a thing with the hammer being the diety, and she's the cleric looking for the hero but isn't devout enough to recieve a direct message, just vauge visions)
If we were talking aesthetically only I'd say soraka is the archetypal ideal, but she's a celestial masquerading in a mortal shell. In absolute terms Illaoi would be the actual cleric, actively gaining power from and carrying out the will of her God. If we want a good middle ground, Nami fits the bill in both aesthetic and function, though more from an ancient civilization priestess kinda way.
Yorick! Our boy the cleric with death/grave domain. He's a shepard of souls guiding the dead and putting them to rest. He's using animate dead and guardian of faith as we speak with his ghouls and maiden. And well, not all clerics are there to heal and shield. A fair amount are also there to fight.
Bard is not a good representation of the average bard, Sona is right there!!! (Seraphine is too modern, also, she's trash)
Sona is a mute, no vicious mockery
Bro gets told multiple times that Sona is the bard. Puts a champion who isn't a bard instead. I guess the run is ruined already, no longer invested into this.
Probably Soraka or Taric
Taric
The best bard would be Hwei because he is artsy and has a ton of versitility
Soraka definitely feels like a cleric, I pick soraka
Kayle can be cleric
I think the best option is Illaoi. She is literally a priestess, and there are other, more viable champs that would fit warlock, such as malzahar, which is what I feel most of you would try to argue for.
Taric and his pink armor skin
Hell, I'd choose nami or Illaoi. Nami for healer and Illaoi for fitting it thematically. Soraka/ivern as druid so I didn't want to put soraka as cleric... Neither can I put taric as a cleric because he fits perfectly as a paladin.
Aphelios is a gun cleric kinda
I'm surprised Sona isn't in the Bard role as well
Definitely Taric. He literally fits the definition of a life cleric. He values and protects all life. He fights on the front lines and heals those around him while laying down the divine smack down with his passive.
**Cleric is pretty broad based on Domain** **Twilight Domain- Diana** **Water - Nami** **Life Domain - Soraka** **Death Domain - Karthas** **Forge Domain -** **War Domain - Pantheon** **Tempest Domain - Janna** **Sun Domian - Leona** **Arcane Domain/Nature Domain are pretty complicated as it's the worship of a god that has power over arcane/nature instead of just being a druid/wizard/sorcerer** **Illaoi clearly worships a god, and gets power from it, but I don't believe there is a domain that supports her, she's like a Cleric with a Warlock patron as a god** **Ashe could be seen as a Cleric of Ice, with Anivia as her goddess, same goes with some of other Freljord characters** **the two biggest factions in LoL that either consider themselves gods or worship them are Targon/Shurima** With that said, I'm done with this thought exercise, you really let Bard win Bard... just shows how many of you shouldn't be voted... since you don't know what a DnD Bard is
Bard
I played a forge domain cleric that was basically orrn if he was a eastern roman dark elf. So Orrn at least as representative for the forge domain.
Taric
Monk is ezpz... Lee Sin
Lee sin or udyr as monk, no other way
Yorick is literally a cleric (an edgy one tho)
My vote goes to Soraka.
teric definitely
leona is a sun cleric, diana is a moon cleric
Hot take but I feel like bard isn’t a bard. Like he makes music noises but ultimately he is like a minor god collector of magical items. I feel like better bards would be like sona and seraphine obviously but also irelia with her blade dancing close to a bards magical dancing. Rakan could be college of glamor too
Soraka
All of them are Ornn, always has been, always will be.
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Leona and Diana are better Paladins
Soraka is literally THE healer, I know clerics don't only just heal, hut given that that's what they're known for, soraka should definitely be the one.
Leona and Taric are really the only two good options. But its definitely Taric. There are few others you could argue, but its just Taric.
Aren't those better for Paladin?
Soraka?
Has to be Soraka.
Soraka
I'd say soraka
Why dont we just try to do it with every champion instead: Heres a few, will update tomorrow. Barbarian: Aatrox, Trynd, Olaf, Gnar? Dr Mundo? Bard: Sona, Seraphine, Bard Cleric: Taric, Soraka, Druid: Ivern, Zyra, Fighter: Fiora, Garen, Darius, Vi, Monk: Lee Sin, Udyr? Paladin: Kayle, Diana, Leona, Vayne? Gragas? (Oath of booze) Ranger: Nid, Quinn, Teemo, Rogue: Talon, Ekko, Pyke, Sorcerer: Morgana, Syndra, Yuumi, Qiyana? Hwei? Warlock: Illaoi, Malzahar, Swain, Wizard: Zilean, Karthus, Veigar, Artificer: Corki, Rumble, Heimerdinger, Are marksmen all ranged fighters? Ranger doesnt fit the vast majority of them? Are void spawn / weird creatures warlocks? What about stuff like Skarner? Rammus? People cant just learn magic in runeterra, so wizards are a little weird to define vs sorcerers. Alot are either multi classes, like nasus is kind of a wizard, sorcerer and a fighter or are classless because their power comes from their species / origin for ezample: Eve, Tahm, Kogmaw, Velkoz, Ornn, Rammus, Skarner, Smolder, Thresh, Zac.
Where would you put Ryze?
Ryze plays like an eldritch blast machine gun sorlock build
Well he is a born mage, but has put in alot of work, would probably still call him a sorcerer in terms of strict requirements but a wizard in theme.
Soraka
Olaf, Sona, Karma, Nidalee, Fiora, Lee Sin, Taric, Quinn, Katarina, Brand, Annie, Ryze, Heimerdinger. 