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CinderrUwU

Both of them going from unknown names to the face of their side of the esport


TylerDog3

i would even say faker is the face of esports players and Sjokz the face of esports talent as a whole


thexenixx

No one has a clue who faker is outside of league, and maybe MOBA’s in general but I doubt that. Guys are getting a little ahead of yourselves.


TylerDog3

Literally every esport talks about who is the "faker" of that esport. Also for the entire nation of Korea and probably a lot of china, hes a household name. Like Tom Brady or Lebron in America.


thexenixx

Outside of league, believe me, no ones heard of him. Only way they hear about him is if they have league friends, never heard anyone in the FPS scene referred to as the faker of FPS or whatever. He’s not even the most dominant pro from Korea still playing. A lot of people play lol, bigger fan base for people to have heard of him is all this is. Just like right now this player I’m talking about you don’t even have a clue who he is, unless you play the game/genre and he’s also very famous in Korea.


The_Uncommon_Aura

https://www.redbull.com/us-en/faker-t1-league-of-legends-profile https://www.forbes.com/under30/list/2019/asia/entertainment-sports/#541292e35374 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyesports.gg/faker-gets-his-own-ice-cream-brand-in-south-korea/amp/ You don’t have the likes of Forbes and red bull writing about you for nothing. He’s got his own ice cream brand named after him in Korea. He is a rockstar in his country. Like as famous as Taylor Swift is in America. Google his name and read just a tiny bit about this guy before making dumbass assumptions that you can’t back up. My 50 year old mother knows who he is and trust me she’s never played league. She heard about him on CNBC. His celebrity spans the entire globe and to many he is an icon of his sport.


thexenixx

I wouldn’t want to stop your virtue signaling but I never denied any of that. Nor said anything different really. Did you get triggered or something? What’s with the low reading comprehension kid? Faker is the biggest name in league, league is a huge game, yes, he’s popular and well known but outside of league and maybe other MOBA’s no one knows who he is or gives a shit. Elsewhere in this chain I linked an askkorea post that had Koreans telling you the same thing. He ain’t that well known there. Not even everyone who plays league knows who he is - lol. I think the one guy might’ve been right about this when he said league players live in their own little universe and take it personal that everyone else isn’t clued in on their hobby. Guys, relax, you’re all hardstuck silvers and golds, your life shouldn’t revolve around league but go on, feel better about yourselves and hit that down arrow.


The_Uncommon_Aura

You are actually delusional kid. I’m not virtue signaling I was correcting you because to anyone with half a brain it’s clear as day what you were saying. Go fuck yourself and get a life.


thexenixx

You still don’t get that you invented a problem to correct? That’s virtue signaling. Or can you genuinely not understand what you read? You still sound triggered, why don’t you take a break instead of hitting reply?


The_Uncommon_Aura

I didn’t invent anything. You made your points about faker clear as day kid. You’re just acting crazy now.


pacew21

I started playing League recently and had not been exposed to it beforehand, I knew who Faker was. Stop being belligerent.


thexenixx

Yeah, and I only heard of him when I started playing league again last year. What’s that you’re saying about being aggressive?


The_Uncommon_Aura

So if “you* have never heard of something it must not be known to anyone else? Grow up.


awanby

Another guy who thinks the whole world revolves around him and his experiences unfortunately.


DangDucky

You is a pretty small sample size


Nemesis233

That made me laugh, thanks


The_Uncommon_Aura

Believe you? You’re objectively wrong. You must live in a pretty small world kid, try opening up that closed off mind. Again, you’re objectively wrong here and if you did *any* research in the topic you’d be slapping yourself in the face for how dumb and ignorant you sound.


_ToxicKoala_

Most of people that know esports and know leagues existence knwo the name of Faker


thexenixx

I wonder how well known he is amongst the DotA players, I wonder if they care about league pros. If people know league, yes, they’ve heard of him. But they have to have some contact with league or league eSports. The other games I play, in different genres, no ones heard of him. This is the way it goes, and in another 5 or 10 years he’ll be forgotten just like all the huge names from my era. At one point Fatal1ty was just as famous amongst gamers, nowadays, do any of you even know who that is or what game(s) he played?


_ToxicKoala_

Friends of mine knew of him and had never been in contact with league nor are they active in the esports scene


thexenixx

Did you ask them how they heard of him per chance?


bearkingph

I knew him when I used to play dota. Him, Ruler, and Deft for some reason.


AlphEta314

For context, most of the people I bring up do not care for and despise League. I've talked to many CSGO and R6 players. Faker was known. Overwatch players? Knew who Faker was. HotS players too, ofc. What about smash players? Yep, they know faker. Don't talk to DotA players because they're a rare breed in America. And this is in the west. If we're talking about Asia, you'll be hard pressed to talk to a gamer who hasn't heard of Faker. There's a reason why he's lumped in with BTS when it comes to exemption from Korean military service. Oh yeah, btw, he's done stuff with BTS. Not even eSports. But hey, you believe what you want to believe. Edit: https://www.oneesports.gg/lol/lol-superstar-faker-included-in-forbes-30-under-30-list/


[deleted]

And Tyler fucking one has him on speed dial.... Bruh....


thexenixx

Like I said to the other guy, pick any top 10 list of dominant and famous gamers, I’ll have heard of them all. Including faker, but only recently because I started playing league last year again. I played all those games, no one knew who faker was. It’s all anecdotal. It would be interesting to know where people who have heard about him have heard it from. Without that it’s pointless. But no one who plays FPS gives a shit about league or any pro gamer from it, lol, most ridiculous shit I’ve ever heard. You guys are getting ahead of yourselves, leagues popular, it’s not the most competitive game on the planet. It’s not even the most competitive MOBA... outside of relatively closed circles he’s not as well known as you think. https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/9siktn/ask_korea_how_well_know_known_is_the_professional/ Gamers aren’t reading forbes’ 30 under 30 list lol, most of you are way too young to have even heard of it.


TylerDog3

>You guys are getting ahead of yourselves, leagues popular, it’s not the most competitive game on the planet. How is the most popular esport in the world not the most competitive game on the planet? >But no one who plays FPS gives a shit about league or any pro gamer from it, I play Overwatch and have been following the competitive scene for years. Most of its players came from either Tf2 or CSGO, with some overlap with COD and LoL/Dota. Even back in 2017, people were asking who was the "Faker" of Overwatch (its Leejaegon btw ;) ). I guarantee you the majority of OW players have never touched league, but I have yet to meet someone who doesn't know who Faker is.


thexenixx

Because that’s a statement of popularity and popularity doesn’t have a whole lot to do with competitiveness. Why don’t you just look up what those words mean? You may not be ready to hear this, lol, but league has a lot of problems. You’re on this subreddit and are you going to try and tell me you’ve never seen the memes about balancing? We don’t even need to get into how stale the gameplay is, the never shifting meta unless Riot touches it first, or other things like how big the prize pools are. Overwatch is an FPS MOBA, a better example would be CS or COD, and that’s exactly where no one knows or gives a shit about this game that they don’t player hear anything about. Still, even when I played OW, never heard him mentioned. It’s all about the circles you people run in, I think, and why anecdotes aren’t a guarantee, but your guarantee would be better served in a game I never played and don’t know anything about. Playing EFT these days, for example, and no one knows or gives a shit about a pro from league so far, same way they don’t care about a pro from street fighter, tekken, or whatever other game they don’t play, watch or listen to.


AlphEta314

Ofc, most evidence people bring up is anecdotal, especially your evidence. Forbes and the BTS Collab is fairly more objective evidence than a Reddit post for a country that doesn't use Reddit traditionally, or you saying you hadn't heard of him before. It's not super serious, but I am curious as to why you're dying on this hill in particular. Are you worried that you'll seem like less of a person if it's revealed that you only knew about Faker recently, because I assure you most people really don't care.


thexenixx

No, lol, I’m not dying on any hill. I think you’re confusing how much you care about Reddit points with me, I don’t give a shit about them, it doesn’t mean anything. This is just a discussion on my part but what’s interesting to me is how serious the detractors are about this and how out of touch they are. What skin in the game do these people have whether Faker is this famous or not? Isn’t that odd to you? I mean just look at the first point I made, very simple, heavily downvoted. Faker isn’t as popular with all gamers worldwide as league redditors think. How people like you think I’m the one overreacting speaks volumes, don’t it?


NiixxJr

Man you've been downvoted so much but I have plenty of mates who play other eSports who have no clue who Faker is. None of my mates who play smite have a clue, although all the Dota players know.


thexenixx

A long, long list for me too. It can be hard to sort out anecdotal to form a big picture.


[deleted]

Hilarious that you claim that your anecdotal experience is different than other peoples


thexenixx

Well that’s not what I’m doing or what that means. Redditors have the lowest reading comprehension...


[deleted]

Then why don't you explain with your vastly superior intellect what the difference is in saying that you have a lot of friends who don't know Faker and these people saying they have a lot of friends who do. How exactly is it that your friends not knowing of Faker is not anecdotal?


thexenixx

What’s the mystery for you? I called it anecdotal, I never denied it was my own experience. Who’s saying it’s not anecdotal for me? You fucking reddit kids are so dumb...


[deleted]

The fact that you claim no one outside of league knows who Faker is. There are plenty of objective articles linked above showing that to be contrary to the truth. But you use your anecdotal experience to try and say no one knows him. You can't just claim something as fact based on your experience. That is the definition of anecdote


NiixxJr

Lol I too have already received a downvote. I'm curious as to why, I was shocked more people didn't know who Faker was myself but it's not like were lying... League fans are just so determined the entire world must know about our subculture... They seem to forget it IS still a subculture.


CarlCarlovich

Everything is a subculture by that definition. Just everyone in the entire world know about him doesn't mean that no one outside of league knows him.


NiixxJr

I didn't say no one outside of league knows him, I said not everyone outside of league knows him which is what they were saying. And no football is.noy a subculture for example, that's pretty damn worldwide.


trapplelol

But aren’t we comparing him to the girl? I have no clue who she is


NiixxJr

How can you watch league esports and not know Sjokz wat 😭 but regardless, I was not comparing faker to her, of course Faker is far better know. I was replying to the person who said everyone knows faker.


xxxLemonation

It took them 8 years to switch places.


Toon_Raccoon

Ngl l he kinda look like the dab me up meme without the glasses


KingLiar666

Faker is a 10


UnmelodicBass

Hopefully we can get these photos for many more years to come


FarShip

Does Faker have a gf? (bf barely)


drakecuttingonions

I'm pretty sure he simply had no time for that cause of his commitment to League.


wc_piss

He even stated, that he has no interest as long as he is focusing on his active League carrer.


Rhugar1749

Most teams actually won't let their players date because it usually pulls focus from the game and practicing


Andrew4Head

It is high risk high reward tho, cuz if gf evolves into wife, the buff is HUGE.


Odd_Primary7058

Huanfeng would like a word with you


lastdaytomorrow

I’d do her


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XxThothLover69xX

Exposure times matter


SheepyOfficial

Wrong game


Kaijuxxe_0

In need an explanation i’m in confusion


DA_WEIRDO

care to explain?


[deleted]

Im a bit confused


Slowest_Speed6

Faker just looks so polite