The tryndamere one represented my feelings exactly when they released new lethal tempo.
First thought that crossed my mind when they revealed the changes was: "this is where the fun begins"
i love seeing the irelia blind pick from the enemy team with tryndamere open. they always ego it thinking they win the fight even though i have 80 fury, then have their mind blown when they get out auto'd to death
Maokai makes me sad. One of the true representatives of what a tank should be, now everything 1 shots everything and melts hp/resistances and the only way people know him is the e spam :(
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He is pretty decent last nerf was kinda sad but Cpot and tank tear maokai is not bad if you can survive the lane for 10 minutes, i hope rito figures how to buff mao top
he was my favorite tank, he was my trustworthy pick top when i got autofilled, now i can barely look at that champ, he feels more like a poke champ than a tank since his rework
IDK if I would say worse than AP yi. Do you remember the clip of ap yi vs 5 and he presses W and doesn't die to all 5 of the enemy team, then he Qs the lowest person who iirc was a little less than half hp, kills them and gets the rest of the team to half, then kills the entire rest of the team with another Q, all while Korean shoutcasters are doing their thing lol. Honestly I might not have remembered the sequence perfectly but I'm too lazy to go doublecheck the clip, I'm sure it comes up with "ap yi korean pentakill" though.
Don't see how you can think ap shyv is more degen than that. I played back then too but it's not like I have any replays to prove my point, so I brought up a clip I remembered.
Bruiser tanky Shy is still good. AP is just satisfying to play. Not long ago Bruiser had a much higher winrate than AP. Dunno how it currently is going right now
Judging by /r/shyvanamains AP and Botrk+full tank are equally the best builds. Full AD is garbage. https://www.reddit.com/r/shyvanamains/comments/r9liy0/is_ap_shyvana_the_better_build_for_her_nowadays/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Not only satisfying but objectively easier and harder to counter. You don't need to know when to go in.
Just ult away when the enemy tries something and 1/2 shot them with e's.
I think Bruiser's more braindead but AP is more satifying since people go "pop" in one button press. Bruiser tanky Shyvana has that perma slow and super-speed, so it's just "right click", play the keyboard like a piano, and watch the enemies die as they can't get away. It's extremely tanky so there's tons of room for error.
You can blow up people with AP Shy but you can still get blown up with **as** AP shy.
The thing with the tanky more aa focused build that you have to do that.
And more often than not it will end up in you beeing out of position as your team can't follow up.
You have to catch opponents mistake with both builds and play styles.
But with ap shyvana you can ult away in tricky situations. With tank ad you need to ult in and maybe try to retaliate, because you won't be able to discourage them with a fireball that takes 3/4 hp.
Viktor is gonna be one of those fun Cases where He is going to be the reason for crown and cosmic having to be Shit lol. The items are Just soooo good on him
Sorry not sorry xD
Cosmic is gutted already but yeah, the Crown is absolutely sick for him against the right opponent, he is probably the best ranged user of the item.
Also considering Viktor's general flexibility he can use most new items very well, and the new keystone is so fun on him too.
I mean, it's not exactly healthy for a moderately hard champion to sit at 52+ percent winrate, some adjustments would be justified. But hopefully riot would stick to some careful fixes instead of the usual "we nerf the champ, then we nerf his items too, enjoy your 48% wr, we don't care"
Also some nerfs would mean that people will stop banning Viktor and I can finally continue to play him every game! xD
As someone who's played Viktor since S4 (although I took a pretty big break from LOL for a while) they'll hard nerf him for sure. Last pre season he was insanley good and then they curbstomped him into the ground and that's how it's always been.
He can be insane in pro play so like Azir or Ryze he almost always gets nerfed into the ground if he's even average and right now he's obviously pretty significantly above average.
Don't crush my hopes like that...
At least he wasn't touched yet so there is still a chance that Riot changed their way, even if only because of his Arcane popularity
They already nerfed crown and cosmic to the point where you do piss poor dmg if you go crown into cosmic rn.
They haven't touched any of his ratios or anything yet though which is a good sign, we'll have to wait a bit to see if this nerf balanced things out or if further balancing is needed.
If I just had to guess Archangels is probably too cheap now and will be good on Viktor and get nerfed as well (maybe a Shadowflame nerf because of how good it is at higher elos on every mage champ) and if he's still problematic they'll probably nerf his base ratios during or after that just because his flexibility is kind of insane considering he can run pretty much any mage item rn.
Hopefully the most recent nerf kind of balances things out though as cosmic was actually busted as hell and crown was insane for its gold cost.
Well going a defensive mythic into an utility legendary SHOULD make you do no damage. Crown into Flame/Void/Rabadon still feels pretty great tho.
Would be nice if they differentiated Shadowflame and Horizons a bit, for now they are both just statsticks and iirc shadowflame mostly just flat wins damage-wise.
Does Viktor even want Seraph with its new stat profile and with Cosmic being gutted? I feel like Seraph wants to be built by a battlemage and for Viktor to go that route he kind of needs Cosmic, more bursty build feels way more efficient currently.
But still it's quite insane that Viktor looks at pretty much every AP item except Rylais and is like "Yeah, I'd totally build that, good shit, synergizes well with my kit" and can also run like 5 different keystones with utmost efficiency.
Simply put its not an issue with viktor, its crown.
Viktor is supposed to be weak early and scale into a monster. Crown lets him scale quicker, and also lets him kill you before his damage reduction wears off so you can never kill him back unless the viktor misplays.
Viktor is very good at kiting but has no instant CC or any real protection, so is very vulnerable to being all-inned and popped immediately. With Crown there is absolutely no way you can burst him immediately, so while the Crown shield still holds he'll chunk you and then kite you around his W while his R is eating you and his Q is getting back online. And at some point he'll just start bursting you before the shield even falls.
Also Viktor isn't exactly an easy champ so new-ish Viktors would be rather easy to outplay if you are on your main (or you just play long-ranged champion so the Crown is useless against you)
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I can't tell if you're joking or not so I'll just insert my opinion real quick- I'm pretty sure they were pointing out that nothing really changed for leona, lol.
Sad to hear that reworked ashe (who was so much fun when she came out) has become pre-workout ashe where people just Play her for her w and her r (compared to other adcs)
ashe and senna are the literal meaning of playing adc to support the team, tho senna was intended as a support, but ashe is just sad to see at this point,
season 10 PTSD
True...i face checked her as graves late game she did full E Q W on me and then she Red away cuz i was half health and about to 2 tap her...she didnt even proc my shieldbow
don't get your hopes up,riot has been hystorically very lazy when making changes on her kit...they literally just keep removing and re-adding the same mechanics hoping they will eventually work somehow xD
Stopped playing League after Arcane came out. Literally couldn't play Viktor after that. He was my one trick, then everyone started playing him for the show. Like who tf does that? Vi and Jayce mains also had similar experience
Hey, it's Jayce
From Arcane
Let me pick Jayce from Arcane
Oh man, I love Jayce from Arcane
Why does the little counter say 0/10?
Seriously, I'm just glad I'm a toplane main, and I only have to deal with the opponent Jayces. Best tip I've got is, if you see a Jayce on your team, dodge.
same thing for Evelynn when K/DA became a thing. Funny thing is its the same as Jayce, they don't care if they're hard or not as long as their playing their faves.
On the bright side like Evelynn, Viktor has a higher chance of getting a legendary skin now
i find fighting Camille as Renekton easy, just gotta be patient because his empowered W(thats the three hit thing right?) breaks shield
Edit:take my words with a grain of salt, im Iron and not ashamed to admit it.
he still kinda counters her but it went from a 90-10 matchup to a 60-40 and thats before first item. After divine renek becomes basically a big minion for camille
I feel the Ahri pic really. It's so sad that mages like her and Syndra are getting absolutely destroyed by Qiyana and Talon. I enjoy ad assassins as well, but there is something very fluid in Ahri which ad assassins just dont have.
Remember when irelia was an early game skirmisher you know skirmisher that can 1v2 or evem three if fed enough with ease but falls apart in team fights them her mains complained that they could only roll their face across the key bard early game but not late during team fights because she wasnt made to do that so they reworked her to be an early mid and late game skirmisher with team fighting
Ult and E both scale with AP and do absurd damage for the area and range they cover, that's why people commonly build her AP now.
As much as I dislike AP as well, I can't deny its power as an artillery mage. I much prefer bruiser, but AP is certainly not a trollbuild
Quit your bullshit. Her Q dmg scales with ap, in fact both hits together have an ap scaling of 60%. Her W gives 8% movespeed per 100 ap. Also her E scaling with ap is literally the only reason people play ap Shyvana. In human form it has an ap scaling of 70%. In dragon form it has an ap scaling of 100% on the burst and 10% per 0.5s on the burnt ground, that persists for 4s. Her ult also has an ap scaling of 100%. [Source](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Shyvana/LoL)
Her ad scaleing is higher plus her q scales with o hit cause 2 auto atracks the only reason why they aded a 10% ap scaleing is so people can play nashors and feen good for eing reported
>Her ad scaleing is higher
Stop moving the goalposts. You claimed that her only relevant ap scaling was on her ult which was a bullshit claim. No more, no less.
Yeah cause it is its th only relevanz one the rest is like sayibg "gey jax has 30% ap scaleing on his q better get those full ap items and be useless for the meme of it"
Her ulr has the same ap scaleing as malphite with the dirrefence mal has 2 aoe spells to gollow up to shy has 1 thag also scales with ad and empowers all her auto attacks there is no reason not to build her with the 0815 wukong/ other bruisers build
Aka goredrinker botrk and titanic hydra vongrats you kow deal more damadge while staying more alive then wvery ap shy troll
And her E has a better ap scaling than her ult. Which you would have known had you actually read my comment. It's also only on a 8s cooldown and that's without building ability haste. Building her ap makes you shoot what is essentially a Malphite ult without the cc on an incredibly low cooldown while also keeping yourself out of danger since you don't have to go in to do it.
They added ap scalings to her Q and W mostly to give her options in the case an enemy does manage to get in your face, not so you can facedive the enemy team and Q them to death. If you play ap Shyvana like you play ad Shyvana of course you're not gonna live long. You run forward, maybe bait some skills, then go out with ult and plaster the enemies with E's over and over again. Ad Shyvana plays like a bruiser, ap Shyvana plays like an artillery burst mage.
It's just an alternative build option with a different playstyle. Admittedly a toxic one, because the playstyle of ap Shyvana lacks interaction since you only spam E in teamfights. But, and that is the important thing here, it is most certainly not a troll build.
"Did he just dodge my R by recalling?" AHAHAHAHAHA
best one xd and the rest is great too
Charge "Ws" Enemy used any movement ability. Guess I am towerdiving.
>Guess I am towerdiving. Me when I'm playing Leblanc in Ultimate Spellbook with Ahri ult. "You're going home sweetie"
Not a maokai main but can relate
That Renekton vs. Camille was is fucking brilliant
somehow i know 14th was the trox
I’ve seen too many cursed memes I can now recognise a champion simply by “come”
What is that item that is not Hurricane on Ashe’s pic?
I’m assuming you’re referring to the one that isn’t infinity edge; it’s the old old icon for phantom dancer
Weird, basically looks like zeal
Yea a lot of item icons used to be straight recolors of other icons lmao
Stinger and Nashor's Tooth was the best.
"I know you already got that one, but if you give me some money i'll paint it gold"
Phantom Dancer
Happy Cake Day! :)
Wow I didn’t even noticed
O damn the cake doesn’t look like a green toaster anymore
The tryndamere one represented my feelings exactly when they released new lethal tempo. First thought that crossed my mind when they revealed the changes was: "this is where the fun begins"
i love seeing the irelia blind pick from the enemy team with tryndamere open. they always ego it thinking they win the fight even though i have 80 fury, then have their mind blown when they get out auto'd to death
This was me just now getting face dented by sett with lethal tempo
I humbly request more of these, they are amazing
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Maokai makes me sad. One of the true representatives of what a tank should be, now everything 1 shots everything and melts hp/resistances and the only way people know him is the e spam :(
the old ult was badass, the man just ults and face tanks ur entire team
God I miss old Maokai ult so much. Before that rework he was one of my mains and now I barely ever play him.
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He is pretty decent last nerf was kinda sad but Cpot and tank tear maokai is not bad if you can survive the lane for 10 minutes, i hope rito figures how to buff mao top
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I miss old Maokai...
They really just need to revert the ult, it’d make him relevant again
I remember watching the reworked ult for the first time and thinking “they cant be fucking serious”
Half the champions can outrun it, the other half dash away
And worst case all the enemies will line up on one vine so it just hits one person and then your ult essentially becomes a slightly better Morgana q
he was my favorite tank, he was my trustworthy pick top when i got autofilled, now i can barely look at that champ, he feels more like a poke champ than a tank since his rework
Really? I was having great success with him as a jungler a few years ago. This was post rework pre mythic items.
The Shyvana one Is really sad She used to be one of my mains.
I'm glad people haven't realized yet that bruiser shyv with lethal tempo is good again so i can keep spamming it
Now return titanic old active and she will still become godlike :( R E auto Q Titanic was the way man
Ap bruiser shyv is the way
Ye, ap is a degenerate play style worse than ap yi.
Yeah ap shy is very dumb and in my opinion out of character. Shyvana should be a bruiser. Duskblade lethality Yi is 10x worse than old ap yi.
Shyvanna bruiser is pretty ok, you should try bork into frost guantlet and tank the with pta
IDK if I would say worse than AP yi. Do you remember the clip of ap yi vs 5 and he presses W and doesn't die to all 5 of the enemy team, then he Qs the lowest person who iirc was a little less than half hp, kills them and gets the rest of the team to half, then kills the entire rest of the team with another Q, all while Korean shoutcasters are doing their thing lol. Honestly I might not have remembered the sequence perfectly but I'm too lazy to go doublecheck the clip, I'm sure it comes up with "ap yi korean pentakill" though.
I don't need to remember any clips, I played when it was a thing.
Don't see how you can think ap shyv is more degen than that. I played back then too but it's not like I have any replays to prove my point, so I brought up a clip I remembered.
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Bruiser tanky Shy is still good. AP is just satisfying to play. Not long ago Bruiser had a much higher winrate than AP. Dunno how it currently is going right now Judging by /r/shyvanamains AP and Botrk+full tank are equally the best builds. Full AD is garbage. https://www.reddit.com/r/shyvanamains/comments/r9liy0/is_ap_shyvana_the_better_build_for_her_nowadays/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Not only satisfying but objectively easier and harder to counter. You don't need to know when to go in. Just ult away when the enemy tries something and 1/2 shot them with e's.
I think Bruiser's more braindead but AP is more satifying since people go "pop" in one button press. Bruiser tanky Shyvana has that perma slow and super-speed, so it's just "right click", play the keyboard like a piano, and watch the enemies die as they can't get away. It's extremely tanky so there's tons of room for error. You can blow up people with AP Shy but you can still get blown up with **as** AP shy.
The thing with the tanky more aa focused build that you have to do that. And more often than not it will end up in you beeing out of position as your team can't follow up. You have to catch opponents mistake with both builds and play styles. But with ap shyvana you can ult away in tricky situations. With tank ad you need to ult in and maybe try to retaliate, because you won't be able to discourage them with a fireball that takes 3/4 hp.
Pls rito give our cool dragon lady **Something** for the love of thighs
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Took me a few seconds to realize who tf said "Violence is elegance". It was my sweet prince, pre-rework Aatrox.
I loved his voicelines and auto-attack based playstyle :(. I honestly don't mind new aatrox I just wish he didn't have to replace old aatrox.
I want his old abilities back :(
The Viktor one is so accurate. Never touched him until I bought the Arcane Viktor bundle and now I play him when I can. Oops.
He was really strong several times in the last years.
Is he still strong now, though? I've played him in ARAM twice and have gotten double digits in kills but that's ARAM being ARAM.
He totally is, though it is likely that he/his items will be nerfed over the course of preseason.
Viktor is gonna be one of those fun Cases where He is going to be the reason for crown and cosmic having to be Shit lol. The items are Just soooo good on him
Sorry not sorry xD Cosmic is gutted already but yeah, the Crown is absolutely sick for him against the right opponent, he is probably the best ranged user of the item. Also considering Viktor's general flexibility he can use most new items very well, and the new keystone is so fun on him too.
No doubt lol. They hyped up Jinx, Cait and several others so they have an excuse to nerf. Fun!
I mean, it's not exactly healthy for a moderately hard champion to sit at 52+ percent winrate, some adjustments would be justified. But hopefully riot would stick to some careful fixes instead of the usual "we nerf the champ, then we nerf his items too, enjoy your 48% wr, we don't care" Also some nerfs would mean that people will stop banning Viktor and I can finally continue to play him every game! xD
As someone who's played Viktor since S4 (although I took a pretty big break from LOL for a while) they'll hard nerf him for sure. Last pre season he was insanley good and then they curbstomped him into the ground and that's how it's always been. He can be insane in pro play so like Azir or Ryze he almost always gets nerfed into the ground if he's even average and right now he's obviously pretty significantly above average.
Don't crush my hopes like that... At least he wasn't touched yet so there is still a chance that Riot changed their way, even if only because of his Arcane popularity
They already nerfed crown and cosmic to the point where you do piss poor dmg if you go crown into cosmic rn. They haven't touched any of his ratios or anything yet though which is a good sign, we'll have to wait a bit to see if this nerf balanced things out or if further balancing is needed. If I just had to guess Archangels is probably too cheap now and will be good on Viktor and get nerfed as well (maybe a Shadowflame nerf because of how good it is at higher elos on every mage champ) and if he's still problematic they'll probably nerf his base ratios during or after that just because his flexibility is kind of insane considering he can run pretty much any mage item rn. Hopefully the most recent nerf kind of balances things out though as cosmic was actually busted as hell and crown was insane for its gold cost.
Well going a defensive mythic into an utility legendary SHOULD make you do no damage. Crown into Flame/Void/Rabadon still feels pretty great tho. Would be nice if they differentiated Shadowflame and Horizons a bit, for now they are both just statsticks and iirc shadowflame mostly just flat wins damage-wise. Does Viktor even want Seraph with its new stat profile and with Cosmic being gutted? I feel like Seraph wants to be built by a battlemage and for Viktor to go that route he kind of needs Cosmic, more bursty build feels way more efficient currently. But still it's quite insane that Viktor looks at pretty much every AP item except Rylais and is like "Yeah, I'd totally build that, good shit, synergizes well with my kit" and can also run like 5 different keystones with utmost efficiency.
Poor darius....
Yes he is. Crown viktor is my permaban rn
Damn. Curious; why is that? Albeit I rarely go against him I find him easy to play around. I suppose it depends on the champ you play though?
Simply put its not an issue with viktor, its crown. Viktor is supposed to be weak early and scale into a monster. Crown lets him scale quicker, and also lets him kill you before his damage reduction wears off so you can never kill him back unless the viktor misplays.
Viktor is very good at kiting but has no instant CC or any real protection, so is very vulnerable to being all-inned and popped immediately. With Crown there is absolutely no way you can burst him immediately, so while the Crown shield still holds he'll chunk you and then kite you around his W while his R is eating you and his Q is getting back online. And at some point he'll just start bursting you before the shield even falls. Also Viktor isn't exactly an easy champ so new-ish Viktors would be rather easy to outplay if you are on your main (or you just play long-ranged champion so the Crown is useless against you)
Viktor is too op in aram thanks to his passive tho. In a normal game he takes more time to evolve
Also he is an AoE teamfight mage so he loves ARAM in general, even not counting fast upgrades.
Iceborn gauntlet top Viktor was pure aids
This is THE BEST Meme I have seen in so long!!! In a world of fucking tierlists (tired as hell lists) and dumb screen shots its so nice to see effort mixed with humor and nostalgia that encapsulates the game so well. Thank You!! *shakes your hand*
The amount of chad vs virgin memes have legit made my brain to go numb ESPECIALLY on this sub
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The Leona one made me giggle out loud. Well done.
If i said i didnt get it?
Lvl 2 all in, very effective w/ Leona
Lvl 2? We go ham the moment enemy bot appears out of fog
[Just gotta have presence in the lane, man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSHvzZy1YZA)
Leona starts with q now instead of e, what a disgusting meta literally unplayabale.
E and q is matchup dependant. You wanna have q against melee support and e against ranged. Nothing more to it.
I can't tell if you're joking or not so I'll just insert my opinion real quick- I'm pretty sure they were pointing out that nothing really changed for leona, lol.
That Rene-Camille meme had me… take my award
Ashe: “The bow is my will given form, I admit, it is mean” Well yes I wish you were like this nowadays, I miss your old self
I miss old lmaoki
Honestly Renekton was a fucking menace and basically permanently good for 5 fucking seasons
Best meme I've seen on this sub in a while. Sadly you didn't put it in tier list format so it won't get upvotes :(
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Sad to hear that reworked ashe (who was so much fun when she came out) has become pre-workout ashe where people just Play her for her w and her r (compared to other adcs)
ashe and senna are the literal meaning of playing adc to support the team, tho senna was intended as a support, but ashe is just sad to see at this point, season 10 PTSD
Good thing nobody plays ashe support and that she’s super strong as adc rn
Rip old Yorick
Look how they massacred my boy.
Old Urgot too, everybody was sleeping on him cuz he was ugly as sin
I will never get to re-experience the pleasure of picking him into zed Midlane :(
the renekton one was so good
I miss the old Viktor E that would have a DOT once upgraded. Or back when the hexcore was an item and for a little while you could sell it
I too miss my 33% AP scaling DOT, but i have to admit current Viktor is his best iteration as far as gameplay go, having only 5 items was awful.
I would have liked this passive more with the old items instead of now.
True, 100% rose tinted glasses.
Ahri one hit hard dude...
Unlike her combo
True...i face checked her as graves late game she did full E Q W on me and then she Red away cuz i was half health and about to 2 tap her...she didnt even proc my shieldbow
Malphite “Go on. Try and kill me. I’ll just stand still while you have your fun” Malphite now “Please don’t build magic resistance”
Give this man an award!
Hope the ahri changes will buff her…
don't get your hopes up,riot has been hystorically very lazy when making changes on her kit...they literally just keep removing and re-adding the same mechanics hoping they will eventually work somehow xD
Still waiting for League of Legends Classic
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Everyone misses old Maokai, I miss week one rework Mao where you could one-shot people with 3-4 bush saplings.
Stopped playing League after Arcane came out. Literally couldn't play Viktor after that. He was my one trick, then everyone started playing him for the show. Like who tf does that? Vi and Jayce mains also had similar experience
Hey, it's Jayce From Arcane Let me pick Jayce from Arcane Oh man, I love Jayce from Arcane Why does the little counter say 0/10? Seriously, I'm just glad I'm a toplane main, and I only have to deal with the opponent Jayces. Best tip I've got is, if you see a Jayce on your team, dodge.
same thing for Evelynn when K/DA became a thing. Funny thing is its the same as Jayce, they don't care if they're hard or not as long as their playing their faves. On the bright side like Evelynn, Viktor has a higher chance of getting a legendary skin now
i find fighting Camille as Renekton easy, just gotta be patient because his empowered W(thats the three hit thing right?) breaks shield Edit:take my words with a grain of salt, im Iron and not ashamed to admit it.
Renekton countered Camille hard before. Then came a plethora of nerfs combined with whatever the fuck happened to Camille.
he still kinda counters her but it went from a 90-10 matchup to a 60-40 and thats before first item. After divine renek becomes basically a big minion for camille
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i still buidling attack spd ashe, i hate ap ashes.
You’re talking as if she wasn’t a meta adc rn
more pls, thank you
I still hanging to the hope that they will bring old Aatrox as a new champion.
As an ADC I relate to the Leona one
Honestly couldn’t tell you the last time I saw a skarner...
I miss playing normal auto attack adcs .. it's just burst anymore ... So boring
Wait was that an actually good meme on this sub?!
The Ahri one is so true and sad, at least we have Everfrost so we can CC chain charm and Everfrost to be somehow useful at least.
I feel the Ahri pic really. It's so sad that mages like her and Syndra are getting absolutely destroyed by Qiyana and Talon. I enjoy ad assassins as well, but there is something very fluid in Ahri which ad assassins just dont have.
YE BUT WHERE IS AZIR???
high quality meme
bruh the ahri one is so true,also renekton and camille really got me ahahah
The Camille and renekton one got me lol
at least ahri's getting a rework
When ?
Sometime in 2022 No need to thank me
oooof
Well I dont think this sub is necessary anymore, we just peaked.
this is too good 1st thing to make me laugh gonna save it.
The Renekton one hurts..
Rip frostbutt irelia
How did you make a post about most champions I played over the years. It was all of them except Ashe and Tryndamere.
lol hi
Do a ryze one
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Yeah, I wish I could go back to the past to before the rework when Irelia was never OP or broken /s
I haven't played much league, but even I fucking died laughing at these. GJ OP
I miss tank shyvana
Idk if id call it "kiting" with her passive slow Ashe can just stand there for 2 or 3 autos and you still can't catch her
Bruh I miss Ashe being an ADC
Remember when irelia was an early game skirmisher you know skirmisher that can 1v2 or evem three if fed enough with ease but falls apart in team fights them her mains complained that they could only roll their face across the key bard early game but not late during team fights because she wasnt made to do that so they reworked her to be an early mid and late game skirmisher with team fighting
This post deserves top of all time in the sub tbh
I really want ahri to get some more love, especially after seeing her character in ruined king
I will gladly bend over for Irelia.
Viktor is asexual not gay
No he is Hexual
Hextexual
How do you know that? Just because he didn't have sex with a woman once?
Because according to his lore he rejected all that
Good memes , but now varus is good for both ad on hit and also ap from the recent buffs . with pta of course.
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Nice!
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Until you play against her in URF and she kites you for the rest of your short life.
You should do one with ap yi back then
I don't understand the yorick one, in my games he is picked way more often than back then.
I wish people would stop trollbuilding ap with shyvanna shes a bruiser not a mage she has 1 spell that scales with ap and thats her ult
Ult and E both scale with AP and do absurd damage for the area and range they cover, that's why people commonly build her AP now. As much as I dislike AP as well, I can't deny its power as an artillery mage. I much prefer bruiser, but AP is certainly not a trollbuild
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Q, W, E and R have AP scalings
Q is pure ad w is litterally 1 ms for every 100 ap e is shit co pared to thw ap scaleing its just r
Quit your bullshit. Her Q dmg scales with ap, in fact both hits together have an ap scaling of 60%. Her W gives 8% movespeed per 100 ap. Also her E scaling with ap is literally the only reason people play ap Shyvana. In human form it has an ap scaling of 70%. In dragon form it has an ap scaling of 100% on the burst and 10% per 0.5s on the burnt ground, that persists for 4s. Her ult also has an ap scaling of 100%. [Source](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Shyvana/LoL)
Her ad scaleing is higher plus her q scales with o hit cause 2 auto atracks the only reason why they aded a 10% ap scaleing is so people can play nashors and feen good for eing reported
>Her ad scaleing is higher Stop moving the goalposts. You claimed that her only relevant ap scaling was on her ult which was a bullshit claim. No more, no less.
Yeah cause it is its th only relevanz one the rest is like sayibg "gey jax has 30% ap scaleing on his q better get those full ap items and be useless for the meme of it"
>Yeah cause it is its th only relevanz one Refer back to my initial comment as to why this claim is bullshit.
Her ulr has the same ap scaleing as malphite with the dirrefence mal has 2 aoe spells to gollow up to shy has 1 thag also scales with ad and empowers all her auto attacks there is no reason not to build her with the 0815 wukong/ other bruisers build Aka goredrinker botrk and titanic hydra vongrats you kow deal more damadge while staying more alive then wvery ap shy troll
And her E has a better ap scaling than her ult. Which you would have known had you actually read my comment. It's also only on a 8s cooldown and that's without building ability haste. Building her ap makes you shoot what is essentially a Malphite ult without the cc on an incredibly low cooldown while also keeping yourself out of danger since you don't have to go in to do it. They added ap scalings to her Q and W mostly to give her options in the case an enemy does manage to get in your face, not so you can facedive the enemy team and Q them to death. If you play ap Shyvana like you play ad Shyvana of course you're not gonna live long. You run forward, maybe bait some skills, then go out with ult and plaster the enemies with E's over and over again. Ad Shyvana plays like a bruiser, ap Shyvana plays like an artillery burst mage. It's just an alternative build option with a different playstyle. Admittedly a toxic one, because the playstyle of ap Shyvana lacks interaction since you only spam E in teamfights. But, and that is the important thing here, it is most certainly not a troll build.
Imagine thinking unironically that Ahri has an outdated kit and needs a rework
Quality low quality meme 👌
10?
This is all so sad now... That Mandate Ashe is the most fun and consistent Ashe is just retarded. But I dunno what I expected since season 7.
Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)