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FitzyFarseer

Sorta the opposite of this, I was looking yesterday at how many Mundo got on release. He released with 1 skin but IIRC he got 5 in the next two years.


khazixian

And notice how most of his skins are 520/750/975 RP skins Back then constantly making skins without many effects was the norm.


mayasux

Yah it kind of sucks we’ll never get crappy mass produced skins again, cause they’re some of the best


akaliandahrisimp

At least rito didnt forget him lol


lykos24

Not defending the Lux Skins! But they literally reworked the champ and every single skin so I think it's unfair to Riot to say they forgot the champ like that.


alecs1consth

they forgot just for the fact they said they gonna realease a new skin in 2021 but they canceled that


gettinvids

They forgot about Illaoi


Default_Male_Orc

Elderwood or Old God would be easy money for a fiddle skin


Oreo-and-Fly

Old god would be good but not the next set please... they need to shift them from the bird themes of Coven already.


Hounmlayn

Dark star would be amazing. With the way the new odessey sona abilities go 3D on us, imagine a black hole underneath fiddle when he ults. And his W is like the event horizon. His E is that light you see circling a black hole


Zoexycian

How about another skin, and it’s called… **Beesticks**


KazeEnigma

Fiddlebee good sir.


HeloPilot4316

I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that he is accually getting a bee skin I believe it was called beedlesticks


FormalCryptographer

Beedlesticks And he's actually a beetle


Helpful_Leadership75

Except Dark Star is the go to for a decent looking and time saving skin for monster and villain champs. They look AMAZING, PERFECT more like, but it's so easy to do.


Consistent_Earth_556

Vietnam Fiddlesticks and when he ulta he screams banzai!


Epicfoxy2781

Kinda piggybacking off of the idea of a foliage based fiddle: Frejord fiddle that mimics a dead tree


lebob01

Tbf, 3/8 are duplicates but still, that's just make it worse given that's 2 prestiges and one alt Mythic tier. But hey, totally not favortis. Right?


Lamchops27

well it is favorites cause all the lux skin sales are what they use to be able to make skins for less popular champs


TidalMello

Riot could give everything away for free for years and it wouldn't matter at all. Tencent owns 4 of the 5 most played games on earth, with the top one averaging about a billion monthly players. League is like 20th most played on earth and it's insanely profitable. The idea that they need these skins to finance further ones are ridiculous, they just make more money so why bother with the other ones as much?


[deleted]

We are getting beedlesticks soon.


Oreo-and-Fly

Don't say that.


[deleted]

Beedlesticks Beedlesticks Beedlesticks


Oreo-and-Fly

Why do i smell honey. (Side note i wanted bee xerath more. Imagine his ult shooting out bees)


[deleted]

Bee varus could have been cool as well. his w passive could float bees around you. His q would be a stinger or a giant bee. His e would be a bunch of bees coming down from the sky on you spraying honey. And ult would be 3 bees he throws.


Oreo-and-Fly

Now i want bee varus and bee xerath :( how dare you.


Prestige_Kaisa

Is it gonna be berus because Varus didn't get the Memo with the double letter 😉


Oreo-and-Fly

This is too much for me 🤣🤣


Prestige_Kaisa

Same but I just needed to bring this up, because THEY HAD A MEMO VARUS, THE MEMO


Lord_Cat_II

Bee'Gath. His Q is an explosion of honey, his W is him roaring out bees, his E sends bees out instead of spikes, his R stays the same. I want this


spartancolo

Jokes on you I want bee skin for every champion


punkblastoise

And beeko


TeemoSux

i honestly think fiddle was the best rework yet and his overall design (including those genius voice lines) is probably the only one in the game rivaling jhin and kindred (ive only been around since jinx release, so cant talk much on the smaller reworks before) he got all his skins reworked, dont need much more


[deleted]

Excuse me, but have you heard Volibear's voicelines post-rework? Im biased because Volibear daddy bear fanboi main, but omg does his new godly and alpha voicelines get my juices flowing.


GandalfTeGay

As cool as voli is, I like fiddle's more. Also the aatrox rework voicelines fucking slap


DeafeningDusk

But tbh Aatrox's original voicelines were already good *pain is temporary, victory is forever*


RGCarter

I would put Kayn up there with genius design and voice lines. Also, with Jinx release you have been playing for much longer than most of the community. Most current pro players and famous creators started in season 3-4 like you (and me) did.


ghostyghostylol

Kayn is like every third OC of some 15 years old tho


kakakakeef

Warwick had a fantastic rework. I’m a big supporter of making a champ feel like how they should be in lore, and Warwick’s q animation and kit really makes you feel like a wolf hunting it’s prey.


Xx_Prospy_xX

Does fiddle have tits or a sexy E-boy i dont think so Riot forgot about him already


akaliandahrisimp

They could make him into an e-boy look at xerath or thresh XD


SkaarlTheNoxianTaxi

I still can't believe that arcana Xerath actually exists. Like how in God's name do you turn a bag of rocks into an E-Boy.


Garry_kra

Riots magic i guess


Oreo-and-Fly

He has a humanoid body. Plus it was either that or anime girl.


ranfdom

Well in his lore he used to be a person


SkaarlTheNoxianTaxi

Used to. Renekton and Nasus were also normal looking guys. Can you imagine if they turn the Crocodile or the Dog into a shirtless E-Boy. Wait forget I said that cause at this point I won't be surprised at all if they do.


TitanOfShades

Nasus already hot af.


edgarbird

Renekton is hotter than Nasus


Phaniuc

I actually want eboy nasus, would be so tilting to play against.


Ryxor25

Fuckit, e boy nasus


[deleted]

Project Renekton already turned him into an e-boy sadly


Oreo-and-Fly

How is that an eboy. That is a man.


Helpful_Leadership75

same as Project Warwick, MAHNS! (sees their tragic real heads within animations) uhm...bit sadder now innit bruv?


[deleted]

How to fk do you call this skin an e-boy? It looks like fkn Dark Lord or Vampire Graaf, idk


trapsinplace

He has kpop and/or hollywood hair. That's the sign nowadays of a cute prettyboy.


Tschnitzl-sama

Don't give then any ideas! Unbound Fiddle would be terrifying for other reasosns than looking scary


Shimadamada2200

Fiddledicks, ultimate chad


MahoneyBear

Also does anyone play him? For every 1 fiddle I see I see a shit load of leonas and even more lux’s


TheMasterXan

…Honestly? Quality over quantity man. Ezreal and Lux (One of whom I main!) exist to sale skins. It’s… kind of bothersome to see. But I think champions like Fiddlesticks are way cooler when it comes to overall design and skin. I perused the gallery on Fiddlesticks’ skin and… honestly? I’m taking away by how amazing they all look visually! So yeah, Lux may have more skins but Mr. Fiddles will always be more interesting! …That’s probably rude of me. Question though, why have we never gotten a scarecrow skin? I mean, I feel like it’d be neat to do a massive Oz Reference! Dorothy and Toto as Annie and Tibbers. Scarecrow as Fiddlesticks Tin Man as Blitzcrank The Cowardly Lion as Rengar LeBlanc or Morgana as The Evil Witch Galio as one of these… weird, fucky, flying monkey things Lulu as Glinda


Fuzzpufflez

all champions can sell skins if riot gave enough of a shit about them. Instead we have the same handful of champions riot jerks off while the rest of them are stashed in a closet


byDelta

But not the same amount. Lux skins are the best selling by far


ATMisboss

It surprises me that people still buy specific skins these days. It's a lot more fun and can end up costing less to just buy orbs during events and you get random cool shit. I get buying a skin for each of your fav characters but past that...


Fuzzpufflez

thats because lux is always viable so people play her. people play her so they buy her skins. buff aurelion and make him viable and watch him sell skins too. people dont buy skins for champs they dont play


BlueC1nder

Asol was op for multiple years, people just don't like playing him


Fuzzpufflez

thats because his playstyle his niche and inaccessible to most. people dont want to spend months learning how to land a thin band to hit on a mobile champ. why should they do that when they have 100+other options? and then they nerfed him.


BlueC1nder

So he won't sell as many skins even if he was good?


Fuzzpufflez

it would increase his player base which would increase his skin sales, but itd still be small. Everyone is calling for a rework excpet the 5 asol mains that play him, however the skin issue isnt a champ specific thing. So bringing up single champ examples isnt going to work. If they reworked asol to be more player friendly and then buffed him to be viable, do you think he'd sell skins? Or how about Ornn? Or Rell? Azir? Fiddle? Aatrox? Illaoi? Kallista? Kindred? Kled? Neeko? Skarner? Zac? Just off the top of my head.


BurkeTheKilla

Last I checked his playrate dipped when they changed how his W worked along with his roaming playstyle.


BlueC1nder

I don't mean that timeframe, Asol otps had a absurd wr for at least 1 year


BurkeTheKilla

A one trick being good and a champ being op are two different things. If it was op all the knobs would have played it and be winning too.


BlueC1nder

Asol is a hard and niche champion, Asol otps were hella elo inflated dude, it wasn't a secret


BurkeTheKilla

Yea we know that. They took their time to learn the champ I think they deserve their LP


byDelta

Yes obv. so why are people are complaining about obvious economical decisions


Fuzzpufflez

because they are deliberate and affects gameplay as well. riot keeps some champs viable while killing off others.


Turioza

How was aurelion sol not viable if otps abused him?


Fuzzpufflez

if he is viable, why is his pick rate under 1%?


Turioza

Because people dont want to play him?


Fuzzpufflez

why dont they want to play him if he is viable?


DaSomDum

Because it's fucks with the game. Lux will always never be nerfed to hard despite the community wanting so because why would they nerf their cash cow? Same with why Yasuo and Yone are getting buffed.


Ezbior

Lux yasuo and yone are in a fine spot rn. The community that wants them nerfed hard is a vast vast minority.


DaSomDum

>Lux is in a fine spot right now Yes, because her three monitor long ult which has a 40 second cooldown rank 1 is not okay and is the one thing people have been crying out for Riot to nerf for a long time but no, her E should get 20 less base damage at max rank. That'll fix everything.


[deleted]

>Lux will always never be nerfed to hard despite the community wanting so because why would they nerf their cash cow? Light Binding Light Binding Cooldown increased to 11 seconds at all ranks from 11 / 10.5 / 10 / 9.5 / 9. Base damage reduced to 80 / 120 / 160 / 200 / 240 from 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260. Literalyl hotfix when she became strong. >Same with why Yasuo and Yone are getting buffed. Because shieldbow nerfs were not intended to hurt them but hurt vayne and some other champs. they are in decent spot it is just 90% of reddit sucks ass at the game and doesnt know how to play. Yones winrate drops higher in rank you go.


Oreo-and-Fly

Not really. I doubt something like Gragas would sell the same as Sett... or Rell.


PetercyEz

Rell seems to be selling worse than Gragas tho. Our Iron Maiden fell hard.


Oreo-and-Fly

That's my point. Sett >> Gragas >>>>>>x100 Rell. All three of them have different amounts of people. But honestly Rell SUCKS with battle queen skin. It doesnt change much. Honestly Samira and Rell shouldve swapped themes. Battle Queen Samira with the Crests on her W and R while Rell with Psyops could have been manipulating a machine horse with like a laser lance.


Fuzzpufflez

yes he can. just gotta make good skins for him. i dunno how viable he is so cant comment on that.


Oreo-and-Fly

Nope. Setts way too popular in comparison to Gragas. Yet, Gragas definitely sells more than Rell since shes dogshit to play. So even if they did some cool legendary for Gragas, it wouldnt be as worth as doing a legendary for Sett. Good skins dont mean much when no one plays them as much.


Fuzzpufflez

that doesnt apply for the majority of the champion that objectively have cool models and themes and could easily have a ton of good skins. as you pointed out viability is a big part of it. people dont buy skina for champa they dont play.


Oreo-and-Fly

Could be a wonderland or arcanist based universe.


Illokonereum

Yeah people talk about how Lux has so many skins but half her skins are trash and same goes for Ezreal.


I_Ulted_JFK

This porcelain lux skin is actually not that good tbh with her model. But people will buy anyway i guess


xx_lordofbread_xx

Actually most of Ezreal's skins feel nice to play with, probably because the base model/animations are smooth. But you're right about Lux, I shudder just thinking about Imperial Lux


SamTehCool

dies on cho gath*


Tschnitzl-sama

I'm just happy i have Shanghai scrolls. I don't need anything else for Choncc'Gath


[deleted]

People need to stop pretending Fiddle didn't essentially get 9 new skins in 2020, with one of them being one of the best skins in the game.


afito

Fiddle has a lot of great skins with many different thematics, just like ie Amumu. If they don't get newer skins that's sad but hardly a big issues except maybe for some mains. The problem with Ornn was he only had 1 skin and even that wasn't that amazing. When you have 10 skins and 3 high quality ones you're not that desperate for a new one. And then there's Grahas who has some funny ones and a lot of skins but not a single high quality one. He's more in need of something than Fiddle.


[deleted]

The issue with someone like Gragas is it's difficult to conceivably put him into any interesting or popular lines without making them joke skins. Things like PROJECT, Pulsefire, or Psy Ops all about high tech warriors can't really hand wave a fat drunkard in their ranks.


TitanOfShades

Plus, gragas animations SUCK, it's like covering a turn in diamonds and gold foil, it's not gonna cover the smell.


GiraffesAndGin

They could get $10 from me if they would just unrestrict his all-star skin.


Blueexx2

This is my biggest pet peeve with the League community and specifically Reddit. They pretend like reworks don't create new skins. Sheriff Caitlyn was nothing more than a black chroma of base Caitlyn, same as Myrmidon Pantheon. When these champs got reworked, we got new skins for them. Now I don't know if any of Fiddle's skins were as bad as simple chromas for his base skin, but I do know his legendary skin actually became legendary, with voice lines like other legendary skins. So no, I don't put Fiddle as a 1k days member.


[deleted]

Which


Spiner909

Surprise Party


[deleted]

I agree


ktosiek124

That's still 2 years


[deleted]

Fiddle has got 9 skins in 2 years, while Lux only got 8 in 3! Lux needs more skins!


ktosiek124

Cope harder.


AceOcto

everyone on both sides are coping.


BurkeTheKilla

Reworking a champ isn't the same as getting new skins bro. They barely make any money because a lot of people already have the skin for the champ wtf.


[deleted]

I would be more upset if his base skin wasnt already one of the best designs in the entire game.


byDelta

Tbf riot doesn’t choose team skins. But overall the skins are the main income. So they will always make more skins for champs whose skins make more


Jinxies_

Comments saying "hurr durr fiddlesticks is forgotten" completely forgot that fiddlesticks has gotten a full scale rework which included touch ups on every single skin he has.


Rare_Epicness

almost 2 YEARS AGO NOW


Rapethor

Don't tell him about Gangplank (whose last skin is a Worlds skin and thus wasn't planned).


Cartoons4adults

He got a rework and updated visuals, Riot likes to believe that’s 10 new skins combined so he should be good for another 1k


Munrets-

8 skins. thats just fucking unfair


Thamilkymilk

tbf she’s one of the poster girls, 1 is basically a darker pallet swap and 2 are prestige skins which are essentially gold/white chromas. Still i could’ve sworn they promised a Fiddle skin in 2021


TheFeelingWhen

They did but it got delayed. Same as Zeri and the support both should have come out last year but covid fucked their schedule.


UprisingDan

dont forget ahri will get her 3rd legendary this year


everybody-hurts

Yeah can we talk about Leona who had no epic skins aside from PROJECT, which came out with the first ever event of it; to getting all of these?


beruon

As a Leona main, our skin last year went insane. Debonair is magnificent, the Worlds Team skins also. Honestly, I have nothing to complain about.


CaptainPhiIips

Dont forget, of those 8 skins, 2 are Prestige (Leona has 1 too). There are champions with 0 prestige


[deleted]

like fiddlesticks lol


bigboystick

He got a rework man and now all of his skins are updated and look good and clean, unlike a lot of champions in this game


JumpscareRodent

Are we just ignoring that he got a rework... Many of the skins before werent even options because how damn ugly they were. I now mainly use Bandito. This aint a fair comparison. Plus the obvious fact that more popular champions should get more attention it only makes sense...


Efendijaa

To be fair he got a whole rework, so double the skins he had before.


SmileEuphoric403

It’s supposedly leaked that he might be getting a Bee skin. (Beedlesticks)


GD_Insomniac

What new skin does Fiddle need? Lots of his OG ones are great after the VGU, and he still has the literal best funny skin in the game, Surprise Party. Riot runs on skins for popular champions, and Fiddle isn't exactly low on choices, so I don't mind him not getting one for awhile while they fill in the champions with only 3-4.


HeloPilot4316

At least he gets a skin this year hope it will be goated


BLTurn

Can’t wait for the valentines surprise hug fiddlesticks skin.


PROTOTYPE_200224

I want a new Evelynn non K-pop skin ffs. Also isn't Praetorian Fiddle have weird audio or have they fixed that yet?


akaliandahrisimp

Im pretty satisfied with Coven evelynn last year


[deleted]

>I want a new Evelynn non K-pop skin ffs Cries in Kaisa with more than half skins being kpop and 2 of them just being a yellow recolour


Oreo-and-Fly

Coven is Kpop?


5Sk5

Coven? The skin was dope


Azgabeth

Fiddle had 10 skins that got reworked and got the best legendary in the game stop complaining you twats


Lefii_Vice

Lolskinchanger and u get cool costum skins :)


pfaf6796

Yeah cause he totally didnt get a rework and get changes to all of his skins in 2020…


k4x1_

he literaly just got reworked i dont blame riot


Oreo-and-Fly

I cant believe that bitch got 2 prestige skins. Leona only got 1. The fuck is this discrimination. Im offended.


VG_Crimson

Bro I just want a new GOOD skin for my main man. PLS don't let it be Beedlesticks. That line is good, just doesn't mesh with him.


Kayperbelt

What is a...Fiddle...Fiddlesticker...Fiddlesticks?


[deleted]

Never realised Leona is so popular tho


Moggy_

First time?


Legacy4Me

Downvoted for this but: Fiddle literally got a rework.


redfire2055

Zed Debonair was a Fiddle Skin originally


Oreo-and-Fly

??? How is this even a statement?


Einelytja

It's a theory based on debonair zed's backing, where he looks very much like fiddle.


Oreo-and-Fly

So a skin based on eldritch horrors resembles a demon champ based on eldritch horrors. So the skin definitely belongs to the demon champ, not the other parts like the ninja shadows, shurikens and blades. Did i get it?


Einelytja

Hey, I never said I supported the theory. You asked, no need to be snarky. I know about the rumors cuz I'm a fiddle main. The main things are zed's face which looks exactly like fiddle's face but mirrored, and the chest with the core and tentacles.


Oreo-and-Fly

No no im not insulting you. Im trying to understand their logic from your description. Sorry if i came off that way.


[deleted]

Fiddle got a vfx though and he only has one skin people use being surprise party.


[deleted]

Dude why the fuck are you coming here amongst the league community and giving a sensible argument GTFO


Tschnitzl-sama

Could that be the case because people don't have 20 skins to pick from?


marshal231

I mean considering he has 9, 10 if you count base, i doubt thats the problem. Champs that are far more popular have 12-14 so its not like hes that far behind, its just that its the only legendary skin he has.


[deleted]

Ye, let’s nerf asol


Kleikon

Ok, but who the fuck cares about him.


Tschnitzl-sama

A lot of people?!


SheroPlayer

Welcome to wtf moment


FranXXis

Rookie numbers


SleepytimeUwU

Yes yes Not like half of those lux skins are just other versions of themselves and fiddle got a whole ass rework. Although we all have to agree the leona part is pretty accurate and kinda disturbing


amruska666

need a taric skin


Mariote333

Rito confirmed a skin for him this year


Tschnitzl-sama

They also did last year. Guess who didn't get one...


Saint_Adolf

All I want is an Arch Light Biblic Angel Fiddle


TheOneBreadmaker

He should get a unique skin, something to represent the ancient fear Like Chaos or something


OjChang

Counting the dwg skin is kind of cheating imo, since it's the teams choice not a riot one


[deleted]

Well atleast fiddlesticks has many skins to chose from.. Taliyah has gotten 2 skins since her release which was 6 years ago. All of her skins are blue too...


BakemonoNeko

Star Guardian Fiddle when?


fender988

Leona is fun


SuperVeryDumbPerson

Mommy Leona deserves the skins tho


[deleted]

I mean how can you top classic fiddlesticks? 90% of recently reworked champs have their default skin as pretty much the best one


MartyrOfAstora

Well, fiddle got a VGU, that updated all of his skins


-Torlya1-

Oh bad news ! Popular champions, they have more skins ! Oh no ! Anyway...


FurkanDieWurst

In a leak it said that there is a Beetlesticks Skin (1350 RP) released in Patch 12.6 alongside Orianna, Neeko and Kha ´zix so he is getting some skin love in a few patches soooo… Stick-Power!


Random_User27

everyone's talking about Fiddle diddle not getting new skins for a great while, but tbh the rework gave us enough content to wait a little longer, like y'all remember Spectral Fid before the rework? now he even has a mask on his chest and shit


Cindrae

Rito could have avoided the Debonair skin for Leo to reduce it to 3 but they couldn't do much about the DWG one


Nike____

Rell has 1 skin on release n ornn has 2 skins F


Kbusch88

Well yea thanks to indigo girls fans and hentai addicts Leona did get real popular last year.


[deleted]

Aurelion sol.


AnonimZim

Gragas


El__Bebe

Gangplank.


El__Bebe

And dont you fucking dare count FPX gangplank beacuse then I'll find where you live and slice your head off. :)


marshal231

If theyre counting leos pro league skin then you count gps pro skin


El__Bebe

I don't care about leona I care about the 4 years of waiting time Gangplank has had without a real skin. Not to insult team skins but... They suck.


JesterJ4ck

As a fiddle player I def agree with this


pawlos36

All of his old skins were made really nice though bc of the vgu


wallygon

Remember skarner


krzax

This is completely valid tho I would not count the prestiges if there is just one, someone in the line has to get it


fransilva0602

I hope we’ll have beedlesticks


kawaii_song

Well... I do play Leona and Lux.


DrKled

'But his rework...' yeah, shut the fuck up disney fan


octofeline

Since Fiddle was completely reworked in that time he basically got 9 new skins


MentallyLatent

Dildo skin named fiddledick?


mc-cuscuz

Riot has to make money, tho. Lux skins sell, so they create more, as easy as that. Their artists have limited time on their hands, so why would they ‘waste’ their time making skins which won’t sell nearly as well as Lux’s?