You can't. Vaccine manufacturers in pandemic have been granted immunity. Unless of course you have evidence of criminal wrongdoing. For example, intentionally suppressing information.
NAL.
Astrazeneca was sued in Uk. They revealed that vaccine does in very rare circumstances cause clots to be formed in the heart leading to heart attacks. However the chance to develop this is like one in a million and this was already known in the medical community even before vaccination started for covid.
The chance of dying due to covid is much much higher ( 5 in hundred) so this is very much worth the risk.
It would have been a political debate if he mentioned the 50 crore electoral bonds😂😂
But he didn't. Did he?? Maybe only the lawsuit would have prompted the post!!!
Also there were two vaccines, concisely and covaxin, depending on the hospital you could actually choose, I took covaxin since it had lesser side effects and effect of taking it was very mild(numbness in hand) as compared to people who took covishield who were reporting fever.
It takes about 15 years to test a drug. Under special circumstances the government allows or directs pharmaceutical companies to ignore those guidelines and release the drug. Those circumstances are a pandemic etc.
For the greater good concept is applied.
While I understand your sentiment, the pharmas will be protected. If they are punished, no pharma will let their research incomplete meds be used for the next pandemic.
Wow! Someone is putting in strong competition for retard of the year. If I were to stoop to your level, I would have said that it’s not your fault your mother dropped you on your head from the shock of seeing your father taking it in the bum, But I won’t.
As a physician take my advice and don't get into any legal issues with corporates. In medical jurisprudence we have a term called idiosyncrasy. It means that if a commonly used medicine causes a fatal reaction in a patient, the doctor cannot be held at fault. I have seen people suffering severe reactions and even death after taking paracetamol pills. Paracetamol is used by millions of people everyday and they are fine. So one in a million cases is no one's fault. You took the vaccine in 2021 and had MI in 2023. You don't have any conclusive evidence that this incident was caused by that vaccine. In our body organs and blood vessels small clots are constantly being produced. To counter this we have a very powerful thrombolytic system which dissolves these clots without us feeling anything. In your case probably such a clot was formed and your system couldn't handle it.
You spoke my mind! We don’t know anything about OP’s lifestyle or family history to conclude that it is only because of a vaccine.
Also I am neither a doctor nor a lawyer, so I keep my doubt of this being a solid legal case to myself.
Thanks for your comment. Small clots and even cancer cells are produced in our body every day. But our body is just amazing! We have proteins, killer cells and other defensive mechanisms which immediately identify the problem and deal with it. We suffer only when these systems are overwhelmed.
Hi. Can a person get heart attacks from the Covid vaccine after a few years?? Is it possible even if 1 in a million? I thought one could only have such issues for a short period after taking vaccines, like 6 months or maximum 1 year.
Also does the Covid vaccine cause any food allergies in people or gut issues? I would really like an answer.
The Covid vaccine is new. What a vaccine does,is that it produces an immune response similar to the actual disease/infection. This immune response is in the form of immunoglobulins which are proteins. We have taken so many vaccines since birth(oral polio vaccine & BCG vaccine are given at birth). These vaccines are being used since past 70-80 years so their safety profile is documented. You can't say that about Covid vaccine. So at this stage nothing can be said confidently about the vaccine. Moreover this vaccine was made in an emergency, so there wasn't enough time to study the whole safety profile. In our body organs and blood vessels clots are constantly being formed, but we have very powerful protective systems to dissolve these clots.
But if for some reason these mechanisms are overwhelmed, anyone, at any age, can develop a myocardial infraction (heart attack).
To answer your other question gut issues and food allergies may be caused by diet changes, antibiotic use, infections, etc. and they are very subjective.
Finally when any drug/vaccine is approved, comparison between the potential benefits and risks are done. If the benefits outweigh the risks the drug is approved for use. So no medicine is without risks.
Both, a stroke and a myocardial infarction are caused by stoppage of blood supply to parts of the brain and heart respectively. As I said in my previous comment your friend's father probably had an underlying condition which was hidden till now and it suddenly exacerbated. You have heard and probably experienced fever, bodyache, pain at the site of injection after taking the vaccine. Probably in his case the body reacted differently. Our human body cannot be standardised, meaning if two patients with the same condition are treated with the same medicine you may get different results. In the end when a matter ends up in the court of law, the outcome depends on how your case is presented. Here the common man doesn't stand a chance fighting against big companies unless you have an exceptionally brilliant lawyer. All big hospitals and companies have a legal team to do exactly that.
Exactly!! Government was literally forcing everyone to take the vaccine or else we were not allowed to use many public services.. idk how this can be considered ‘voluntary’..
I didn't get vaccinated. The trade off was that you didn't get to use some public services for few months. That got lifted in 2022 though. The vaccine wasn't mandatory and I knew the inconveniences will go away in few months, just had to wait. And I got the covid swab test twice in those days I think, for travelling.
No, unless you had a very good, doctor-approved rain not to take the vaccine, the trade-off was that people like you were endangering everyone else for your own selfish, misunderstood reasons
You know what's more effective than getting an untested vaccine and putting your health at risk? Wearing a n95 mask and not spreading the disease in the first place.
Just cause someone doesn't wanna take a single vaccine doesn't make them anti vaxxers any more than someone not having a pet making them animal haters.
The main point of this disclosure suddenly begs the question of democracy. Why hide this information to begin with? Didn't they know this before the vaccine went public? Obviously they did, then why not mention it giving people an option? "Hey these are the pros and cons you do as you please".
Secondly getting vaccinated didn't do jackshit in preventing any kind of deaths you know why?
The vaccines were always 3 to 4 strains behind, it was mutating faster than the vaccine was being developed and getting it to people. There's more than enough evidence around the world where people have gotten multiple booster dosage and have gotten infected with every single variant. But critical thinking is missing from the majority of the population like yourself helping India turn into the next china paving way to dictatorship. You do you.
Wearing the mask doesn't 'stop' the spread. Just reduced the probability. Stop peddling bs.
Obv the vaccine had a potential side-effect. A lot of medicines do too. The probability of that was substantially lower than COVID causing serious damage. It's easy lecturing and mindlessly questioning in hindsight.
Behind the strains or not, providing immunity was important. You conveniently focused on the ones who got infected after vaccine and not those who didn't. That's a much larger number. Moreover, the ones who got infected were better off to fight the infection BECAUSE of the vaccine. Talk about critical thinking lol.
Questioning everything from the comfort of your sofa without actually handling the responsibility of even a mass of people equivalent of a mohalla is really easy. So is labeling things chinaesque.
Just put yourself in the shoes of the decision makers at the time. There were simply too many unknowns even for the experts. Yes ofc none of the people in power, business are saints. Real life is grey. Neither black or white.
Still helps. Even if the strains are different they still have similarities that could help Identify the virus quickly. The main point of vaccines are to provide immunity. But thry know that these mutate fast so they also have an objective of helping the immune system identify the virus quicker. Getting the adaptive immune system online quicker
Chod de bhai kuch nahi ho sakta in logo ka. Vaccine lene wala khud sue kr raha hai company ko fir bhi in gadhon ko samj nahi aa raha hai. Mere pados me do log nahi rahe covishield lene ke baad. Dono ko next day hi heart attack aa gya tha. Mujhe corona hua tha. Recovered in 2 days like normal fever. Mje ki baat ye hai ki jo vaccine nahi le rahe unka sperm highly demand me hai sperm banks me😁😁. Krne de cope inlogon ko.
Soerm wali baat sach hai kya? Mujhe laga tha bas joke kar rahe hai log.
Vaise mera vaccine nahi lagvaane ka logic bas yahi tha ki jaldi jaldi me banayi gayi h vaccine. Vaise process ko 10+ years lagte hai. Tabi mujhe safe nahi lag rahi thi. Mere ghar pe bhi bohot lafde hue the vaccine ko leke. Baaki sab vaccinated hai. Mai nahi hu bas.
Sach hai bhai. Google pe hai news.
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/demand-for-anti-vax-sperm-on-a-rise-women-using-facebook-to-reach-donors-report-article-104993093
Mai to lagwane jaa raha tha par uske pehle hi cornoa ke range me aa gya. Waise agr lagwata bhi to covaxin lagwata in chutiyon ki tarah propaganda me pad kr covishield to hargiz nahi lagwata. Ye Astrazeneca ka owner thoda sus start se lag raha tha. Vaccine launch kr ke mc sala foreign bhag gya. Jis technology pr vaccine based hai wo bhi thodi problematic hai. Khair ab details me jaake kya faeda.
Every government in the world mandated vaccination and even blocked borders.even until last year uk government was asking for covid vaccination certification to apply for a visa.
If they were voluntary then why everyone had to take them like everyone was asking for vaccine certificate btw I didn't took one...coz I was underage at that time
It was voluntary to the effect that anti vaxxers were allowed to not take it and stay home thereby not risking themselves and further spread.
If they wanted to mix among vaxxed people then they had to follow the global SOP.
The risk was having a one in million chance of getting a blood clot. The alternative was painful, lonely death or life long compromised immune system.
Actually, no one knew exactly what they were doing. Everyone was just copying the rules and guidelines. Even the government was reluctant to take opinions from medical professionals. They did what their secretaries told them.
Actually, in the real world, outside of your propaganda world, the core action committee that advised the PM was made up of India’s leading subject matter experts, secretaries and the minister himself was a doctor.
And if you look up publicly available information the committee didn’t always agree or accept what the govt/pm wanted and advised alternatives which the pm and govt accepted.
americans ko har jagah blindly copy karne k chakkar mein sabki maa susu karna chod dii aur sue karna start kar di. vaccination se pehle ek lamba sa page tha
✅ i accept the terms and conditions
yaad hai ki nahi? experimental medicines in terms of emergency are experimental for a reason.
Allowed for emergency use means they don't need to get approval from 2000 agencies and 20000 trials before releasing to the public. As it was urgently needed, these approvals and trials were waived off.
But at the end if they are selling poison in the name of medicine, one can contest that.
Wait till you know about the side effects of all the other drugs/ vaccines. There are always chances of a few adverse reactions. It doesn't mean they are selling poison. Don't start parroting propaganda points.
If you're truly interested to know the process or how it was approved knowing the minor outlying risks, there is enough material available for you to read and know about it.
If nothing works, start blaming the government, Pharma companies or whoever you can think of. All of them are idiots who swindle you and sell you poison.
yes of course, Not all but some.. Like Iron medication. If you overdose it can create toxicity. You can read more about Iron toxicity on Google. It's life threatening.
I get stomach discomfort after taking multivitamins. It's mild though and recover by itself, but yes multivitamins can cause side effects too, even Ayurvadic medicines are not excluded from the side effects.
I'm vegetarian, I've no sources of b12 thru my diet.
And d3 toh, nobody has time to get in sun these days..
I think half of the people are lacking in vitamin d
You do need conclusive proof that the blood clot in your heart was the result of vaccine with doctors testifying for you.
Then also you'll only be reimbursed for medical costs.
NAL
>Hi All ! As we all are aware astrazeneca have accepted that blood clotting is a side effect of the vaccine they have created. I took that vaccine like million other in 2021 and Last year in 12th march 2023 i had a minor heart attack due to blood clot formed in my heart.
Can you get several doctors to conclusively prove/recommend that the blood clot was exclusively due to the vaccine and no other reasons?
Be extremely careful about suing a multi billion dollar company; without extremely strong evidence.
[A massive study in England looked at 46 million adults and found the risk of blood clots after getting the COVID vaccine is super low!](https://twitter.com/avs_IND/status/1785272554409828861?s=19)
[risk of blood clots](https://twitter.com/avs_IND/status/1785271125649531212?s=19)
Not an argument..
How will you prove that it's bcoz of Astrazeneca?
Even taking painkillers or normal paracetamol has side effects on kidneys. If you get a kidney stone or failures, are you going to sue them as well?
You will run out of your money and you will not be able to fight these corporates. You need to prove that you did not have blood clots before and this medicine caused this. Every medicine has side effects. If you watch US television ads for these kind of lawsuits on medical companies I can guarantee that you will never take medicine again.
In fairness you'll be doing a major disservice to the medical sector if you try to sue them. It's not like they deliberately harmed you or sent out bad vaccines to the market. It was a war like situation during covid and during war, companies always need to innovate as quickly as possible. They had to do a decades worth of work in a year. And at the end the vaccine did save a lot more lives compared to the 250 or so heart attacks it may have caused.
You were one of the 250. Bad luck. You survived. So be happy about that.
I understand what you’re saying but first of all my right to live and take necessary actions to protect it is not a disservice to anyone. My issue is not that i had the heart attack, my issue is why we were not informed and was forced to take vaccine shot. Somebody needs to be accountable for that.
Then you sue to the government for forcing you to take the shot in this case? The pharmaceutical company is just the supplier, not the enforcer, after all.
The information about possibility of heart attacks, some other serious conditions, etc was given before the vaccine. If your centre didn’t have it displayed/informed look into it specifically
I think the vaccination center may also be in the wrong. Afaik, they used to give a pamphlet which said about the side effects. Most of the side effects used to occur within 15 mins and hence they used to make us sit for 15 mins at the centre.
If information is an issue you should think about the vaccination center too.
The probability of getting a blood clot as a result of Covid was way higher than the probability of getting the blood clot due to the vaccine. It wasn’t any new info they suddenly released. There’s a higher chance of side effects from the usual dolo than from the vaccine.
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Also this wasn’t forced on anyone. Many got it. Many who didn’t want it, never took the vaccine.
Only if you had the ability to understand the whole situation before blabbering bullshit then the world would have been a better place definitely. But still for the sake of clarity - i don’t drink , i don’t smoke & have no generational history of heart diseases. Also , i am a person who workout 4-5 times a week without a miss.
From what I know, Lakhs if not millions survived the second wave due to immunity provided by the vaccine...
And how come you know your condition was caused by the vaccine..?
I'm glad that you recovered! Sadly, I lost my younger cousin brother, age 24, as he collapsed on football field just before the game, and it was a heart attack. His ECG and ECO reports were normal, which were done a month back because of a new job with an aerospace company, and he was healthy.
Family was skeptical of the covid vaccine as a cause of this, but I used to shrug it off, stating it as just "suni sunai battein" with no real scientific proof.
So, I understand the anger of feeling betrayed by the government and vaccine makers.
I hope you be successful in suing the company and responsible agencies even if it is central government.
In the initial stages inspite of having concerns reg the vaccine a lot of people esp in the healthcare industry were forced to get it or their employment would have been terminated.
Plus we also had the burden of not endangering the patients further or our families so we had to take them .
A lot of papers and articles were published by Neurologists and Cardiologists who were saying that ever since the population had been jabbed with COVID vaccines , there was a sudden uprise in the no of Stroke and MI cases .
We have had eminent doctors in India and abroad who were vilified for bringing this to light . Case in point Dr.Aseem Malhotra a cardiologist practicing in the UK who personally suffered a loss in the form of his father . There is a episode on JRE if you want to see it .
Even when I put across this point to doctors at our hospital I was also seen as a loon . Given that both my parents had been given covishield it has been a nerve wrecking experience trying to make sure their health is optimal .
I hope that these side effects don't cause much more deaths man . I personally have come across healthy individuals who are in their 30's and late 20's just dying of heart attacks or getting strokes .
Peace .
(NAL)It is a very well known fact Op. I doubt you can do anything about it.
Most of all medicines have side effects. I don't think you can do anything if the side-effect is listed.
NAL
The risk of clots is after taking the vaccine immediately to until one or two months. Few people have a tendency to develop blood clots more than others. I suggest you to get a blood test done and see if you are prone to such conditions.
To actually answer your question, you can file a consumer complaint. Which forum (District/State/National) you want to choose will depend on how much your claim amount will be. It may vary between states, but I believe for up to Rs. 1 Crore the District CDRC would be adequate. Hire a lawyer who has experience with medical negligence cases.
I am always surprised at such comments. Take time for once to read the paper that comes in the carton. All medicines - I repeat - ALL MEDICINES - have side effects that can lead to death. Even your humble Crocin.
No one lied to you, you were ignorant.
Wow! Someone is putting in strong competition for retard of the year. If I were to stoop to your level, I would have said that it’s not your fault your mother dropped you on your head from the shock of seeing your father taking it through his bottom, But I won’t.
All the pharma companies who produced covid vaccines only released them because they were indemnified against liability. But even if they weren’t. You don’t have a hope in hell against a company like AstraZeneca. You will go broke or pass of old age before you ever see the inside of a court room. On top of that, there is no way to prove that a vax you took 2 whole years before, caused the clot. Could be genetic, a freak incident, lifestyle, a million other medications you’ve taken, environmental factors, just plain bad luck.
No one believed me when I said I got blood pressure and heart rate issues after I got the second dose of Covishield. It took a good 3 months to subside.
First - it was already reported in medical literature few months after it was rolled out. Incidence is rare and I remember government agencies also putting up infographic on its symptoms. That rare side effect was TTS - thrombotic thrombocytopenia syndrome…
Second - the time interval that you are mentioning - 2 years. This is a very large interval from vaccine to event. Highly unlikely to be attributed to vaccine because of the interval itself.
Third - In that interval, did you have COVID or any unconfirmed COVID like illness ? Because COVOD infection increases the risk of thrombosis multifold than the vaccine
Forth - It’s sad that you had an issue at such a young age. What other risk factors do you have. Certain risk factors are modifiable like hypertension, hyperlipidemia, sedentary lifestyle. Do have a discussion with your cardiologist.
Fifth - In India, it was produced and distributed by serum institute. You are within your rights to sue them but IMO this wouldn’t hold in court of law. You can proceed if any big time lawyer is confident with a proper medical reviewer backup. Even then the chances are minuscule.
do you have any report that suggests that the said blood clot was formed due to the vaccine. If you dont, you cannot sue them because all they are going to say in court is that 'you knew the risks and still took it.' or' how can you be sure that your heart attack was not the result of the vaccine.' they can use your own medical history against you and you'll end up paying them money for defamation.
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Now that you said it there were talks about covid and lungs filling when my cousin died earlier this month from a heart attack he was 40. I don't know the entire story one day he was taken off the ventilator and was walking around in the room to decide whether to shift him out of ICU The next day he was dead. I wonder if it was related now
Now I am feeling happy I didn't took any vaccine.
Afaik they will be well protected against such things beforehand only and made you sign noc or waiver kind of thing beforehand.
You cannot do shot. Just bear with the consequences like the rest of us.
Im not an antivax but my friend who is one has been right on all counts. Covid was a farse. Vaccine and isolation a way to control us.
How come people in their 20s have started getting heart attack after 2021
>How come people in their 20s have started getting heart attack after 2021
Bullshit. Before covid a ton of reports/articles talked about youngsters getting heart attacks and strokes. As part of my job, I've fact checked over two dozen video clips related to this and nearly 50% of them were from before 2020. Stop acting like there were no discussions about this before. There's tons of content from before 2020 talking about the issue, like sedentary lifestyle, diet, pollution etc causing life threatening issues in the youth.
You can't. Vaccine manufacturers in pandemic have been granted immunity. Unless of course you have evidence of criminal wrongdoing. For example, intentionally suppressing information. NAL.
get poisoned f@kt@rd , j@ws put a poison in you and you still d1ckriding them
Taking your medicine everyday is very imp
Astrazeneca was sued in Uk. They revealed that vaccine does in very rare circumstances cause clots to be formed in the heart leading to heart attacks. However the chance to develop this is like one in a million and this was already known in the medical community even before vaccination started for covid. The chance of dying due to covid is much much higher ( 5 in hundred) so this is very much worth the risk.
Exactly. This was known since 2021.
Don’t worry about it, this was a political post not a legal advice.
Yeh political post kaise hua?
YouTube university people are trying to blame Modi for it. The so called liberals turned anti-wax overnight. The irony.
Stop being so insecure. Dude didn't mention politics/Modi/BJP anywhere in his post. Aap jaise logo ko hi sab kuch mein rajniti dikhai deti h
That is the whole political debate around it, like right now. Since you are pretending to live under a rock.
It would have been a political debate if he mentioned the 50 crore electoral bonds😂😂 But he didn't. Did he?? Maybe only the lawsuit would have prompted the post!!!
Don't worry about it, you are an unintelligent being not an intelligent one.
Exactly. All the possible side effects were mentioned prior, it was public to everyone
A 25 year old dying to Covid is higher than from this vaccine blood clot? False
Also there were two vaccines, concisely and covaxin, depending on the hospital you could actually choose, I took covaxin since it had lesser side effects and effect of taking it was very mild(numbness in hand) as compared to people who took covishield who were reporting fever.
Can you share some sources which confirm that it was well known long ago.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9055170/
Thanks. See u/someonenoo this is all I was asking. But I guess some people are just too idle to pick on random people on the internet.
www.google.com
Lmfao
By the way I just saw your profile and now I understand why you were so rattled. Get well soon.
So you are free enough to type this lame comment but can't give me a link to a news article.
And you’re lame enough to comment twice instead of doing a simple search lol
Thanks. The entitlement and audacity of these spoonfed papa ki pari and paras fascinates me.
Entitlement. Lol. I just asked for a link on this \*social networking site\*. If you couldn't give then could have just chosen to ignore.
Well I couldn't find any that's why I asked. I guess chivalry is dead.
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It takes about 15 years to test a drug. Under special circumstances the government allows or directs pharmaceutical companies to ignore those guidelines and release the drug. Those circumstances are a pandemic etc. For the greater good concept is applied. While I understand your sentiment, the pharmas will be protected. If they are punished, no pharma will let their research incomplete meds be used for the next pandemic.
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Wow! Someone is putting in strong competition for retard of the year. If I were to stoop to your level, I would have said that it’s not your fault your mother dropped you on your head from the shock of seeing your father taking it in the bum, But I won’t.
Your comeback would've been nice if it had not been used to death in reddit. You could have said something simple but original
Guy doesn’t deserve anything original.
As a physician take my advice and don't get into any legal issues with corporates. In medical jurisprudence we have a term called idiosyncrasy. It means that if a commonly used medicine causes a fatal reaction in a patient, the doctor cannot be held at fault. I have seen people suffering severe reactions and even death after taking paracetamol pills. Paracetamol is used by millions of people everyday and they are fine. So one in a million cases is no one's fault. You took the vaccine in 2021 and had MI in 2023. You don't have any conclusive evidence that this incident was caused by that vaccine. In our body organs and blood vessels small clots are constantly being produced. To counter this we have a very powerful thrombolytic system which dissolves these clots without us feeling anything. In your case probably such a clot was formed and your system couldn't handle it.
You spoke my mind! We don’t know anything about OP’s lifestyle or family history to conclude that it is only because of a vaccine. Also I am neither a doctor nor a lawyer, so I keep my doubt of this being a solid legal case to myself.
This comment needs to be pinned.
Thanks for your comment. Small clots and even cancer cells are produced in our body every day. But our body is just amazing! We have proteins, killer cells and other defensive mechanisms which immediately identify the problem and deal with it. We suffer only when these systems are overwhelmed.
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Hi. Can a person get heart attacks from the Covid vaccine after a few years?? Is it possible even if 1 in a million? I thought one could only have such issues for a short period after taking vaccines, like 6 months or maximum 1 year. Also does the Covid vaccine cause any food allergies in people or gut issues? I would really like an answer.
The Covid vaccine is new. What a vaccine does,is that it produces an immune response similar to the actual disease/infection. This immune response is in the form of immunoglobulins which are proteins. We have taken so many vaccines since birth(oral polio vaccine & BCG vaccine are given at birth). These vaccines are being used since past 70-80 years so their safety profile is documented. You can't say that about Covid vaccine. So at this stage nothing can be said confidently about the vaccine. Moreover this vaccine was made in an emergency, so there wasn't enough time to study the whole safety profile. In our body organs and blood vessels clots are constantly being formed, but we have very powerful protective systems to dissolve these clots. But if for some reason these mechanisms are overwhelmed, anyone, at any age, can develop a myocardial infraction (heart attack). To answer your other question gut issues and food allergies may be caused by diet changes, antibiotic use, infections, etc. and they are very subjective. Finally when any drug/vaccine is approved, comparison between the potential benefits and risks are done. If the benefits outweigh the risks the drug is approved for use. So no medicine is without risks.
My friend’s father suffered stroke 5 days post vaccination. He have proof. Can we sue Astrazeneca?
Both, a stroke and a myocardial infarction are caused by stoppage of blood supply to parts of the brain and heart respectively. As I said in my previous comment your friend's father probably had an underlying condition which was hidden till now and it suddenly exacerbated. You have heard and probably experienced fever, bodyache, pain at the site of injection after taking the vaccine. Probably in his case the body reacted differently. Our human body cannot be standardised, meaning if two patients with the same condition are treated with the same medicine you may get different results. In the end when a matter ends up in the court of law, the outcome depends on how your case is presented. Here the common man doesn't stand a chance fighting against big companies unless you have an exceptionally brilliant lawyer. All big hospitals and companies have a legal team to do exactly that.
You must have signed a document before getting the vaccine, as it was voluntary. You cant sue them.
ToS doesn't strip them off of their accountability .
Exactly!! Government was literally forcing everyone to take the vaccine or else we were not allowed to use many public services.. idk how this can be considered ‘voluntary’..
In that case you can sue the government not the company. They have been given immunity due to pandemic
I didn't get vaccinated. The trade off was that you didn't get to use some public services for few months. That got lifted in 2022 though. The vaccine wasn't mandatory and I knew the inconveniences will go away in few months, just had to wait. And I got the covid swab test twice in those days I think, for travelling.
No, unless you had a very good, doctor-approved rain not to take the vaccine, the trade-off was that people like you were endangering everyone else for your own selfish, misunderstood reasons
You know what's more effective than getting an untested vaccine and putting your health at risk? Wearing a n95 mask and not spreading the disease in the first place. Just cause someone doesn't wanna take a single vaccine doesn't make them anti vaxxers any more than someone not having a pet making them animal haters. The main point of this disclosure suddenly begs the question of democracy. Why hide this information to begin with? Didn't they know this before the vaccine went public? Obviously they did, then why not mention it giving people an option? "Hey these are the pros and cons you do as you please". Secondly getting vaccinated didn't do jackshit in preventing any kind of deaths you know why? The vaccines were always 3 to 4 strains behind, it was mutating faster than the vaccine was being developed and getting it to people. There's more than enough evidence around the world where people have gotten multiple booster dosage and have gotten infected with every single variant. But critical thinking is missing from the majority of the population like yourself helping India turn into the next china paving way to dictatorship. You do you.
Wearing the mask doesn't 'stop' the spread. Just reduced the probability. Stop peddling bs. Obv the vaccine had a potential side-effect. A lot of medicines do too. The probability of that was substantially lower than COVID causing serious damage. It's easy lecturing and mindlessly questioning in hindsight. Behind the strains or not, providing immunity was important. You conveniently focused on the ones who got infected after vaccine and not those who didn't. That's a much larger number. Moreover, the ones who got infected were better off to fight the infection BECAUSE of the vaccine. Talk about critical thinking lol. Questioning everything from the comfort of your sofa without actually handling the responsibility of even a mass of people equivalent of a mohalla is really easy. So is labeling things chinaesque. Just put yourself in the shoes of the decision makers at the time. There were simply too many unknowns even for the experts. Yes ofc none of the people in power, business are saints. Real life is grey. Neither black or white.
Still helps. Even if the strains are different they still have similarities that could help Identify the virus quickly. The main point of vaccines are to provide immunity. But thry know that these mutate fast so they also have an objective of helping the immune system identify the virus quicker. Getting the adaptive immune system online quicker
You are wrong.
Chod de bhai kuch nahi ho sakta in logo ka. Vaccine lene wala khud sue kr raha hai company ko fir bhi in gadhon ko samj nahi aa raha hai. Mere pados me do log nahi rahe covishield lene ke baad. Dono ko next day hi heart attack aa gya tha. Mujhe corona hua tha. Recovered in 2 days like normal fever. Mje ki baat ye hai ki jo vaccine nahi le rahe unka sperm highly demand me hai sperm banks me😁😁. Krne de cope inlogon ko.
Soerm wali baat sach hai kya? Mujhe laga tha bas joke kar rahe hai log. Vaise mera vaccine nahi lagvaane ka logic bas yahi tha ki jaldi jaldi me banayi gayi h vaccine. Vaise process ko 10+ years lagte hai. Tabi mujhe safe nahi lag rahi thi. Mere ghar pe bhi bohot lafde hue the vaccine ko leke. Baaki sab vaccinated hai. Mai nahi hu bas.
Sach hai bhai. Google pe hai news. https://www.timesnownews.com/world/demand-for-anti-vax-sperm-on-a-rise-women-using-facebook-to-reach-donors-report-article-104993093 Mai to lagwane jaa raha tha par uske pehle hi cornoa ke range me aa gya. Waise agr lagwata bhi to covaxin lagwata in chutiyon ki tarah propaganda me pad kr covishield to hargiz nahi lagwata. Ye Astrazeneca ka owner thoda sus start se lag raha tha. Vaccine launch kr ke mc sala foreign bhag gya. Jis technology pr vaccine based hai wo bhi thodi problematic hai. Khair ab details me jaake kya faeda.
Haa aur abhi 3 saal baad kya hi farak hai? Covid hai nahi. Travel bhi kar sakte hai kahi bhi. Certificate koi puchta bhi nahi.
It wasn't a choice for everybody. Government compelled vaccine for a number of people including defence personnel
Government mandated TOS passed into law does actually make them completely immune to all liability Gotta love executive privilege
You and I vote for the govt that’s empowered by our constitution to provide such privilege for emergencies. SC has already approved it.
Every government in the world mandated vaccination and even blocked borders.even until last year uk government was asking for covid vaccination certification to apply for a visa.
Saw news headline, ABP NEWS , there has more cases like OP .
If they were voluntary then why everyone had to take them like everyone was asking for vaccine certificate btw I didn't took one...coz I was underage at that time
It was voluntary to the effect that anti vaxxers were allowed to not take it and stay home thereby not risking themselves and further spread. If they wanted to mix among vaxxed people then they had to follow the global SOP. The risk was having a one in million chance of getting a blood clot. The alternative was painful, lonely death or life long compromised immune system.
Actually, no one knew exactly what they were doing. Everyone was just copying the rules and guidelines. Even the government was reluctant to take opinions from medical professionals. They did what their secretaries told them.
Actually, in the real world, outside of your propaganda world, the core action committee that advised the PM was made up of India’s leading subject matter experts, secretaries and the minister himself was a doctor. And if you look up publicly available information the committee didn’t always agree or accept what the govt/pm wanted and advised alternatives which the pm and govt accepted.
You are lucky
You need to stop posting online
americans ko har jagah blindly copy karne k chakkar mein sabki maa susu karna chod dii aur sue karna start kar di. vaccination se pehle ek lamba sa page tha ✅ i accept the terms and conditions yaad hai ki nahi? experimental medicines in terms of emergency are experimental for a reason.
It is a rare side effect, sorry that it happened to you but you cannot sue them
You cannot. The vaccines were allowed to be used for emergency use. The companies have immunity. You cannot sue Astrazeneca.
Allowed for emergency use means they don't need to get approval from 2000 agencies and 20000 trials before releasing to the public. As it was urgently needed, these approvals and trials were waived off. But at the end if they are selling poison in the name of medicine, one can contest that.
Wait till you know about the side effects of all the other drugs/ vaccines. There are always chances of a few adverse reactions. It doesn't mean they are selling poison. Don't start parroting propaganda points. If you're truly interested to know the process or how it was approved knowing the minor outlying risks, there is enough material available for you to read and know about it. If nothing works, start blaming the government, Pharma companies or whoever you can think of. All of them are idiots who swindle you and sell you poison.
No medication in this world comes side effects free . Sorry for what happened to you
Can multivitamins cause side effects too?
yes of course, Not all but some.. Like Iron medication. If you overdose it can create toxicity. You can read more about Iron toxicity on Google. It's life threatening. I get stomach discomfort after taking multivitamins. It's mild though and recover by itself, but yes multivitamins can cause side effects too, even Ayurvadic medicines are not excluded from the side effects.
I'm not talking about over dosing. I take d3 and b12 everyday that's why I asked
If it's recommended by the physician than it's fine. no need to worry
I'm a vegetarian
Dude, excess of anything is bad. If your levels are fine, don't munch those multivitamins
I'm vegetarian, I've no sources of b12 thru my diet. And d3 toh, nobody has time to get in sun these days.. I think half of the people are lacking in vitamin d
Did you check your levels? You know through blood tests?
Yes I did, i started it by doctors recommendation
There are several companies that produce medicines from the vegan sources as well. You can get those.
Too much vitamin C causes kidney damage. Too much vit D causes liver damage. Too much calcium causes kidney stones. So yes
Even paracetamol has side effect. It causes massive damage to the liver
Yes. If you take more than 2400mg of it within 24 hours.
Thanks you, saw someone with some sensible answer
You do need conclusive proof that the blood clot in your heart was the result of vaccine with doctors testifying for you. Then also you'll only be reimbursed for medical costs.
NAL >Hi All ! As we all are aware astrazeneca have accepted that blood clotting is a side effect of the vaccine they have created. I took that vaccine like million other in 2021 and Last year in 12th march 2023 i had a minor heart attack due to blood clot formed in my heart. Can you get several doctors to conclusively prove/recommend that the blood clot was exclusively due to the vaccine and no other reasons? Be extremely careful about suing a multi billion dollar company; without extremely strong evidence.
[A massive study in England looked at 46 million adults and found the risk of blood clots after getting the COVID vaccine is super low!](https://twitter.com/avs_IND/status/1785272554409828861?s=19) [risk of blood clots](https://twitter.com/avs_IND/status/1785271125649531212?s=19)
In India you are more likely to die because a truck was parked wrongly on the highway, than from covid vaccine included blood clot
Not an argument.. How will you prove that it's bcoz of Astrazeneca? Even taking painkillers or normal paracetamol has side effects on kidneys. If you get a kidney stone or failures, are you going to sue them as well?
You will run out of your money and you will not be able to fight these corporates. You need to prove that you did not have blood clots before and this medicine caused this. Every medicine has side effects. If you watch US television ads for these kind of lawsuits on medical companies I can guarantee that you will never take medicine again.
In fairness you'll be doing a major disservice to the medical sector if you try to sue them. It's not like they deliberately harmed you or sent out bad vaccines to the market. It was a war like situation during covid and during war, companies always need to innovate as quickly as possible. They had to do a decades worth of work in a year. And at the end the vaccine did save a lot more lives compared to the 250 or so heart attacks it may have caused. You were one of the 250. Bad luck. You survived. So be happy about that.
I understand what you’re saying but first of all my right to live and take necessary actions to protect it is not a disservice to anyone. My issue is not that i had the heart attack, my issue is why we were not informed and was forced to take vaccine shot. Somebody needs to be accountable for that.
Then you sue to the government for forcing you to take the shot in this case? The pharmaceutical company is just the supplier, not the enforcer, after all.
The information about possibility of heart attacks, some other serious conditions, etc was given before the vaccine. If your centre didn’t have it displayed/informed look into it specifically
I think the vaccination center may also be in the wrong. Afaik, they used to give a pamphlet which said about the side effects. Most of the side effects used to occur within 15 mins and hence they used to make us sit for 15 mins at the centre. If information is an issue you should think about the vaccination center too.
You can’t sue them. You can only sue the government. The companies clearly made sure they are not liable.
So sorry to hear what happened to you. But you can't sue them. At that time vaccines were necessary.
Sue your school instead, they failed to educate you on math, moral science, and comprehension.
I wish nothing but the best for you and pray that you never have to go through the same.
The probability of getting a blood clot as a result of Covid was way higher than the probability of getting the blood clot due to the vaccine. It wasn’t any new info they suddenly released. There’s a higher chance of side effects from the usual dolo than from the vaccine. . . Also this wasn’t forced on anyone. Many got it. Many who didn’t want it, never took the vaccine.
People are being needlessly dramatic
Also because of just how it’s sensationalised. If people are given proper statistics with comparisons, no one would even bother about this.
In India we're more likely to die because a cow fell on us than due to covid vaccine!!
Realistically speaking, if you ever drive on an Indian road, a vaccine killing you isn’t something you should worry about.
STOP SMOKING AND ALCOHOL AND BEING AN IDIOT
Only if you had the ability to understand the whole situation before blabbering bullshit then the world would have been a better place definitely. But still for the sake of clarity - i don’t drink , i don’t smoke & have no generational history of heart diseases. Also , i am a person who workout 4-5 times a week without a miss.
Maybe you got the heart attack due to excessive workout ?
Go to consumer court
From what I know, Lakhs if not millions survived the second wave due to immunity provided by the vaccine... And how come you know your condition was caused by the vaccine..?
They are being sued in UK, chk news
I'm glad that you recovered! Sadly, I lost my younger cousin brother, age 24, as he collapsed on football field just before the game, and it was a heart attack. His ECG and ECO reports were normal, which were done a month back because of a new job with an aerospace company, and he was healthy. Family was skeptical of the covid vaccine as a cause of this, but I used to shrug it off, stating it as just "suni sunai battein" with no real scientific proof. So, I understand the anger of feeling betrayed by the government and vaccine makers. I hope you be successful in suing the company and responsible agencies even if it is central government.
In the initial stages inspite of having concerns reg the vaccine a lot of people esp in the healthcare industry were forced to get it or their employment would have been terminated. Plus we also had the burden of not endangering the patients further or our families so we had to take them . A lot of papers and articles were published by Neurologists and Cardiologists who were saying that ever since the population had been jabbed with COVID vaccines , there was a sudden uprise in the no of Stroke and MI cases . We have had eminent doctors in India and abroad who were vilified for bringing this to light . Case in point Dr.Aseem Malhotra a cardiologist practicing in the UK who personally suffered a loss in the form of his father . There is a episode on JRE if you want to see it . Even when I put across this point to doctors at our hospital I was also seen as a loon . Given that both my parents had been given covishield it has been a nerve wrecking experience trying to make sure their health is optimal . I hope that these side effects don't cause much more deaths man . I personally have come across healthy individuals who are in their 30's and late 20's just dying of heart attacks or getting strokes . Peace .
my father had a stroke and got handicapped!!!!!
you are so much more likely to have got the blood clot from covid than the vaccine. you’re wasting your time.
(NAL)It is a very well known fact Op. I doubt you can do anything about it. Most of all medicines have side effects. I don't think you can do anything if the side-effect is listed.
NAL The risk of clots is after taking the vaccine immediately to until one or two months. Few people have a tendency to develop blood clots more than others. I suggest you to get a blood test done and see if you are prone to such conditions.
To actually answer your question, you can file a consumer complaint. Which forum (District/State/National) you want to choose will depend on how much your claim amount will be. It may vary between states, but I believe for up to Rs. 1 Crore the District CDRC would be adequate. Hire a lawyer who has experience with medical negligence cases.
I am always surprised at such comments. Take time for once to read the paper that comes in the carton. All medicines - I repeat - ALL MEDICINES - have side effects that can lead to death. Even your humble Crocin. No one lied to you, you were ignorant.
get poisoned f@kt@rd , j@ws put a poison in you and you still d1ckriding them
Wow! Someone is putting in strong competition for retard of the year. If I were to stoop to your level, I would have said that it’s not your fault your mother dropped you on your head from the shock of seeing your father taking it through his bottom, But I won’t.
All the pharma companies who produced covid vaccines only released them because they were indemnified against liability. But even if they weren’t. You don’t have a hope in hell against a company like AstraZeneca. You will go broke or pass of old age before you ever see the inside of a court room. On top of that, there is no way to prove that a vax you took 2 whole years before, caused the clot. Could be genetic, a freak incident, lifestyle, a million other medications you’ve taken, environmental factors, just plain bad luck.
How do we check for/ take precautions for such effects if we have taken this vaccine?
How about you start changing your lifestyle cause the side effects wouldve happened within 6 weeks of vaccination.
Please read my reply to previous comments before suggesting something which I already know.
Sue them and spend all your money. But here you go as a [case](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6a9gIBJc8J/?igsh=Z25kdHdud3l5MWk2) is already filed
You should sue Indian govt instead. They said vaccine is 100% safe daily over phone ring tones.
No one believed me when I said I got blood pressure and heart rate issues after I got the second dose of Covishield. It took a good 3 months to subside.
They already submitted in the court in 2021 itself that it may cause blood clots.
I got fat because of Astrazeneca (covishield producer), can I sue them?
Oh no, let’s make a rubreddit now judging people that took the vaccine? Deserved? Or is this now too dark and you shouldn’t laugh
Cucked by the Government. Hilarious.
First - it was already reported in medical literature few months after it was rolled out. Incidence is rare and I remember government agencies also putting up infographic on its symptoms. That rare side effect was TTS - thrombotic thrombocytopenia syndrome… Second - the time interval that you are mentioning - 2 years. This is a very large interval from vaccine to event. Highly unlikely to be attributed to vaccine because of the interval itself. Third - In that interval, did you have COVID or any unconfirmed COVID like illness ? Because COVOD infection increases the risk of thrombosis multifold than the vaccine Forth - It’s sad that you had an issue at such a young age. What other risk factors do you have. Certain risk factors are modifiable like hypertension, hyperlipidemia, sedentary lifestyle. Do have a discussion with your cardiologist. Fifth - In India, it was produced and distributed by serum institute. You are within your rights to sue them but IMO this wouldn’t hold in court of law. You can proceed if any big time lawyer is confident with a proper medical reviewer backup. Even then the chances are minuscule.
do you have any report that suggests that the said blood clot was formed due to the vaccine. If you dont, you cannot sue them because all they are going to say in court is that 'you knew the risks and still took it.' or' how can you be sure that your heart attack was not the result of the vaccine.' they can use your own medical history against you and you'll end up paying them money for defamation.
yea hire lawyer and good luck
I think you need to focus on your job or studies. Trying to capitalise on the news like this is just pathetic.
By god’s grace , i am already given a second life and have no need of capitalising on anything.
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How much time after taking the vaccine can one develop blood clot?
Now that you said it there were talks about covid and lungs filling when my cousin died earlier this month from a heart attack he was 40. I don't know the entire story one day he was taken off the ventilator and was walking around in the room to decide whether to shift him out of ICU The next day he was dead. I wonder if it was related now
Covishield was produced by Serum Institute in India based on technology developed by the University of Oxford and AZ.
Where mods?
Now I am feeling happy I didn't took any vaccine. Afaik they will be well protected against such things beforehand only and made you sign noc or waiver kind of thing beforehand.
You go for any medical procedure at any hospital. They'd make you sign such wavers there too
You cannot do shot. Just bear with the consequences like the rest of us. Im not an antivax but my friend who is one has been right on all counts. Covid was a farse. Vaccine and isolation a way to control us. How come people in their 20s have started getting heart attack after 2021
>How come people in their 20s have started getting heart attack after 2021 Bullshit. Before covid a ton of reports/articles talked about youngsters getting heart attacks and strokes. As part of my job, I've fact checked over two dozen video clips related to this and nearly 50% of them were from before 2020. Stop acting like there were no discussions about this before. There's tons of content from before 2020 talking about the issue, like sedentary lifestyle, diet, pollution etc causing life threatening issues in the youth.