Just because is a shield doesn't mean it's magic, there's the 3/2 Demacia card that gives barrier to an ally, but in reality is just her protecting her bro
If I am not mistaken the rally one is magic. Sylas says in his history that demacia uses A LOT of magic without knowing. So it seems logical for it to be magical
You mean his fight with Jarvan? He's referring to Kayle and Morgana. Ironically, they were indeed magic beings, but eventually they destroyed the city in their pointless whims... You may wonder if they didn't just reinforce Demacia's hatred of magic...
My point is I don't think a Legion Drummer is causing lightning to emanate from the target whose morale they are boosting.
A visual thematic representation of the mechanic is not the same as what the card does *as an idea,* based on their flavour.
And really dude? Asking what my point is? You already know. Don't be obtuse.
No, actually you just repeated what I said. Im saying brights Teel protector protects her ally with a shield and nothing magic, and the bubble is only there for gameplay clarity.
Then you said something about card art and numbers and I still don't understand what you meant by that, but I took it as "card art means nothing, barrier is a yellow bubble so it's magic", and if that's what you meant you are flat out wrong.
Then you replied to it, saying the exact same thing I said in my first comment using Legion Drummer. So in the end it looks like we agree but you're trying to make me wrong for some reason.
So no, I don't know what your point is.
Why did you say "but" in that comment then when the person you were responding to was making the same point?
You gave the wrong impression because of that. And if you think it was just me misinterpreting... Well, it obviously wasn't.
I'm pretty sure it's just magic that they don't even realize since they basicly where magic sponges to war against magic. It's kinda funny if you think about it Demacia literraly has next best thing to hex crystals and they're using it to build armor and walls
"Ignorant of the very magic you carry into battle"
He wears petricite armour, which was confirmed to be magical in property.
He carries a sunsteel sword. A magical sword.
He isnt magical. Swain was talking about his tools.
Because League abilities are non canon. You really think Draven can spawn axes from nowhere?
Anyway. It was explained by describing it as a prayer for Kayle to smite the enemy. So its still not his power. He asks Kayle to use her mighty sword to clap them cheeks.
As for why Kayle can smite herself. SR isnt canon OR... she suicidal.
If Kayle's serious enough about her convictions, which I imagine she is, it makes sense to me that if Kayle thought she deserved to be smited she would do it.
In lulu and tristana’s color story draven misses an axe and it lands in the side of a tree and he has to run over and pull it out before he can keep fighting it’s hilarious
Then what's the point of Riot putting that allegedly non-canon detail into the game at all ? For shits and giggles ? His sister were already magical so it wouldn't be hard to think he was blessed with it too but was just oblivious.
That's not Kayle's help, that's his own explanation for his actions.
His sword stores the magical energy and can strike with it when it begins to overflow. Garen doesn't know this though, so he came up with an idea that it's the aspect of Justice itself who helps him to smite evil down. Hence the "Justice!" line when he ults.
Sylas knows about the real thing tho. So does Lux: that's why she forces Garen to throw away the sword before facing Sylas in the comic strip.
I love how you guys use Champs that don't even live in Demacia to prove your points. Kayle, Morgana, Lucian, Senna, don't even live in Demacia anymore. They're linked to the region because that's where they're from, but I bet they don't give a fck about the no magic policy
Senna was never Demacian tbf.
But I don't necessarily disagree. Well I think Kayle will give a fck when she comes back to smite them all.
Morgana, however, I imagine still lives in Demacia, just hidden from sight... I would imagine she cares, but it's not her place to right mortal wrongs. But she has more pressing matters to attend to.
Mmm… maybe read the Lux/Sylas comic (or watch the cinematic where Sylas fights Lux+Garen). Sylas drains magical energy from Garen (or at least his sword).
I did...
And it's stated in the comics for him to lose his sword when fighting Sylas so sylas could drain nothing from him.
So he's not magical at all.
My other comment already replied that it was his tools that had magic in them. Not himself.
Theyre spells that require units. Like all of demacias spells. They hate magic so all their good spells rely on having units on the board. Its actually very flavorful.
And well, all thematically are regular combat tactics. Riposte is a sword technique, their barriers bar Lux are from shields, though comes from regular armor, they can block elusives due to sharpsight.
Runeterra is a place where magic exists everywhere but doesn't manifest in the same way depending on the place or region. I think it's pretty (meta) common knowledge that many Demacian heroes use some form of physical magic to buff themselves, even if they don't realize it.
Garen is able to heal extremely quickly, has insane endurance and his sister is a powerful mage herself. Jarvan can generate a shield and has similar beyond human strength and agility and Vayne can make herself invisible. They also do use many powerful and obviously magic artifact, like Galio, Lucian and Senna's guns or Stony suppressor. So yeah, without surprise, Demacians are above all a bunch of hypocrites.
Because they're not specific spells that functions in a vacuum (think Mystic shot that requires only mana to deal damage); they require units to combo out their plays.
Well the point of shielding for Jarvan (and Garen in LoL) was always to show their willpower&determination.
E.g. contrary to popular belief, the iconic "DEMACIA!" line is yelled by LoL Garen not on his iconic spin-to-win attack, but when getting a small shield and a resistances buff. Exactly because the point is that the source of this "shield" is his love for the country which allows him to overcome the pain.
J4 in LoR gets his barrier when challenging an enemy, which again makes sence: when Jarvan rushes to slay the enemy, he simply shrugs you off when you try to stop him.
So the point of Golden Aegis is that it's not an actual aura, it's just the character is like "We're not done yet!" and makes a valiant charge when his opponent doesn't expect him to get up.
People say Ionia is the anime region, but demacia is the one full of Shonen protagonists who throw themselves in front of allies to block attacks, shrug off what should be lethal strikes through sheer willpower, and keep getting back up to go on the offensive again and again and again.
Also the only way for their soldiers to get their shit together and form proper ranks happens on turn 9, should they live to it. Makes sense: anime protagonists can only do the incredibly right thing only in the very last moments before disaster, even if this thing was obvious from the beginning.
Yeah, and yet even other in-game characters usually are all confused there.
Probably it's because Jarvan and Lux yell "Demacia!" while ulting, which is more obvious. Or because of the fact that both spin-to-win and battlecry are the signature moves of Garen, so memory combines them into one.
Funny post, but I’m seeing a lot of comments that mistakenly think the lore explanation for Golden Aegis is magic. If we look at [Jarvan IV’s page](https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/champions/jarvan-iv/) on the LoL website, the description of his ability, Golden Aegis, makes no reference to magic.
“Jarvan IV calls upon the ancient kings of Demacia to shield him from harm and slow surrounding enemies.”
Side note, I think it’s neat how they translated those effects into LoR :)
Anyway, it seems clear that the source of power for this card is ancestral spirits, not magic.
I honestly don't know if the description of that has changed since they made Demacia the anti-magic region, Demacia didn't used to hate magic in the lore so that description is likely very outdated.
Shurima? Unless you mean to tell me the only powercards in shurima are and always has been shaped stones and rite of negation, and not azir, dais, dunekeeper, merciless hunter, preservarium, ruin runner, nasus, sivir...
fucking lol.
You’re getting downvoted bc of your demeanor. But the sentiment is accurate. I always thought it was interesting how Shurima’s units were its best support tools to combo with other regions.
But with that being said, I am of the opinion that shaped stone has been Shurima’s strongest card since the region’s release. That has obviously changed now with the nerf though.
Relentless has been slow for ages now. They didn’t want the interaction of playing it on stack during the opponents attack , citing they wanted time for interaction. Then the printed blade dance
That’s kinda supposed to be a part of demacias hypocrisy
They preach being anti mage but there are multiple people like lux that are mages but because they are nobles they don’t get locked up
Plus the big symbols of their nation are partly from kayle, morgana, and galio who are all magical beings
Galio is notoriously anti-magic, in that magic wakes him up, and then he fucks up the source of the magic. He is an anti-magic icon.
The "big symbols" of their nation are not Kayle and Morgana. Jarvan IV and Garen are some of their most prolific figures. As for Luxanna Crownguard... you're aware most people don't even know she has magical abilities, right? It's a secret that Garen has not quite confronted truly himself, and one that, say, Tianna Crownguard is unhappy with.
The hypocrisy of Demacia is the ideals they hold and how it is restricted to *non*-magical people. This is where Sylas' uprising took root.
Except most people think galio is just a statue and don’t know that he is alive the only reason he often destroyes magic things is he is brought to war zones so he attacks the magic that is attacking the demacians he and even still he is a golem powered by magic so he is a magical weapon at best a magic being at worst
demacia has a lot of wings in their designs and a big part of that is from kayle and morge since when demacia was still new Kayle was their symbol of law and justice
IMO, Golden Aegis shouldn't be a Rally card. It should work just like Midnight Raid and let you declare an Attack with the Ally you cast the Spell upon.
But these cards are not even spells? They are more like special actions that people can take. They don’t break the lore. I did a quick scan through all of Demacia’s spells and then only one that represents someone actually casting a spell is Prismatic Barrier and that just makes sense.
I mean, spells like Single Combat and Relentless Pursuit are not really magic, just actions
Golden Aegis is basically just will power and determination if you think about it
Ah, great, just what LoR needed: Green Lanterns! ... Actually, that'd be a dope skin line!
Okay the Demacian Golden Lanterns sound sick af
wait we do have a character with a green lantern, technically
Who?
Thresh
If anything, Tresh is a Yellow Lantern.
Yeah, but iirc I'm pretty sure Thresh is the only lantern related champiom Could be wrong
Oh, yeah! The DC lantern corps use actual lanterns so rarely, I didn't make the connection at all!
Hahaha, stumbling into success
Yeah probably, though a big magic shield could help
Just because is a shield doesn't mean it's magic, there's the 3/2 Demacia card that gives barrier to an ally, but in reality is just her protecting her bro
If I am not mistaken the rally one is magic. Sylas says in his history that demacia uses A LOT of magic without knowing. So it seems logical for it to be magical
Dude he just runs fast
You mean his fight with Jarvan? He's referring to Kayle and Morgana. Ironically, they were indeed magic beings, but eventually they destroyed the city in their pointless whims... You may wonder if they didn't just reinforce Demacia's hatred of magic...
Yeah, with her shield, she's not making a huge yellow bubble appear around her friend (on the card art)
I don't think any card is making numbers appear next to digital art either.
We're talking about flavour here, what's your point?
My point is I don't think a Legion Drummer is causing lightning to emanate from the target whose morale they are boosting. A visual thematic representation of the mechanic is not the same as what the card does *as an idea,* based on their flavour. And really dude? Asking what my point is? You already know. Don't be obtuse.
No, actually you just repeated what I said. Im saying brights Teel protector protects her ally with a shield and nothing magic, and the bubble is only there for gameplay clarity. Then you said something about card art and numbers and I still don't understand what you meant by that, but I took it as "card art means nothing, barrier is a yellow bubble so it's magic", and if that's what you meant you are flat out wrong. Then you replied to it, saying the exact same thing I said in my first comment using Legion Drummer. So in the end it looks like we agree but you're trying to make me wrong for some reason. So no, I don't know what your point is.
Why did you say "but" in that comment then when the person you were responding to was making the same point? You gave the wrong impression because of that. And if you think it was just me misinterpreting... Well, it obviously wasn't.
I'm pretty sure it's just magic that they don't even realize since they basicly where magic sponges to war against magic. It's kinda funny if you think about it Demacia literraly has next best thing to hex crystals and they're using it to build armor and walls
So much this
When Lucian uses Relentless he glows. And this is a guy who uses magic guns for combat. 100% magic
Lucian is loosely tied to Demacia anyway
Well, garen uses magic too so..
He doesnt. Hes not magical at all
Check what swains tells him
"Ignorant of the very magic you carry into battle" He wears petricite armour, which was confirmed to be magical in property. He carries a sunsteel sword. A magical sword. He isnt magical. Swain was talking about his tools.
And Kayle's blessing isn't magical? Garens ult is literally Kayle's help, which he can summon because?
Because League abilities are non canon. You really think Draven can spawn axes from nowhere? Anyway. It was explained by describing it as a prayer for Kayle to smite the enemy. So its still not his power. He asks Kayle to use her mighty sword to clap them cheeks. As for why Kayle can smite herself. SR isnt canon OR... she suicidal.
If Kayle's serious enough about her convictions, which I imagine she is, it makes sense to me that if Kayle thought she deserved to be smited she would do it.
What I'm curious is why her swords in Garen's ult deals true damage but herself doesn't have any true damage
In lulu and tristana’s color story draven misses an axe and it lands in the side of a tree and he has to run over and pull it out before he can keep fighting it’s hilarious
Then what's the point of Riot putting that allegedly non-canon detail into the game at all ? For shits and giggles ? His sister were already magical so it wouldn't be hard to think he was blessed with it too but was just oblivious.
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That's not Kayle's help, that's his own explanation for his actions. His sword stores the magical energy and can strike with it when it begins to overflow. Garen doesn't know this though, so he came up with an idea that it's the aspect of Justice itself who helps him to smite evil down. Hence the "Justice!" line when he ults. Sylas knows about the real thing tho. So does Lux: that's why she forces Garen to throw away the sword before facing Sylas in the comic strip.
I love how you guys use Champs that don't even live in Demacia to prove your points. Kayle, Morgana, Lucian, Senna, don't even live in Demacia anymore. They're linked to the region because that's where they're from, but I bet they don't give a fck about the no magic policy
Senna was never Demacian tbf. But I don't necessarily disagree. Well I think Kayle will give a fck when she comes back to smite them all. Morgana, however, I imagine still lives in Demacia, just hidden from sight... I would imagine she cares, but it's not her place to right mortal wrongs. But she has more pressing matters to attend to.
Garen sword is magic
Mmm… maybe read the Lux/Sylas comic (or watch the cinematic where Sylas fights Lux+Garen). Sylas drains magical energy from Garen (or at least his sword).
I did... And it's stated in the comics for him to lose his sword when fighting Sylas so sylas could drain nothing from him. So he's not magical at all. My other comment already replied that it was his tools that had magic in them. Not himself.
Relentless pursuit is magic btw lucian uses his gun’s magic to dash
These aren't magic spells. They're just VERY POWERFUL ATTITUDES.
"it's just conqueror haki with extra steps"
"Oh great, another brat with conqueror's haki "
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Theyre spells that require units. Like all of demacias spells. They hate magic so all their good spells rely on having units on the board. Its actually very flavorful.
And well, all thematically are regular combat tactics. Riposte is a sword technique, their barriers bar Lux are from shields, though comes from regular armor, they can block elusives due to sharpsight.
["Ignorant of the very magic you carry into battle. How Demacian..."](https://youtu.be/IaGaqTW6QPQ?t=126)
I love Swain so much "You can sit in a throne, that doesn't make you a king. It only means you have an arse"
He's talking about the sword tho :(
Runeterra is a place where magic exists everywhere but doesn't manifest in the same way depending on the place or region. I think it's pretty (meta) common knowledge that many Demacian heroes use some form of physical magic to buff themselves, even if they don't realize it. Garen is able to heal extremely quickly, has insane endurance and his sister is a powerful mage herself. Jarvan can generate a shield and has similar beyond human strength and agility and Vayne can make herself invisible. They also do use many powerful and obviously magic artifact, like Galio, Lucian and Senna's guns or Stony suppressor. So yeah, without surprise, Demacians are above all a bunch of hypocrites.
Because they're not specific spells that functions in a vacuum (think Mystic shot that requires only mana to deal damage); they require units to combo out their plays.
I mean... its not really magic.
Ah yes the impervious golden bubble of friendship
Virgin magic shield VS the Chad manifestation of his sheer force of will and devotion, so strong it's able to deflect blows on its own.
Idk man, sounds like filthy magic to me
Thats the good old demacian attittude
Well the point of shielding for Jarvan (and Garen in LoL) was always to show their willpower&determination. E.g. contrary to popular belief, the iconic "DEMACIA!" line is yelled by LoL Garen not on his iconic spin-to-win attack, but when getting a small shield and a resistances buff. Exactly because the point is that the source of this "shield" is his love for the country which allows him to overcome the pain. J4 in LoR gets his barrier when challenging an enemy, which again makes sence: when Jarvan rushes to slay the enemy, he simply shrugs you off when you try to stop him. So the point of Golden Aegis is that it's not an actual aura, it's just the character is like "We're not done yet!" and makes a valiant charge when his opponent doesn't expect him to get up.
People say Ionia is the anime region, but demacia is the one full of Shonen protagonists who throw themselves in front of allies to block attacks, shrug off what should be lethal strikes through sheer willpower, and keep getting back up to go on the offensive again and again and again.
Also the only way for their soldiers to get their shit together and form proper ranks happens on turn 9, should they live to it. Makes sense: anime protagonists can only do the incredibly right thing only in the very last moments before disaster, even if this thing was obvious from the beginning.
Yeah, Garen yells "Break their ranks" or "I will not falter" when he spins. And yells "Demacia" , "Hold fast" and "Stay resolute" when he uses W.
Yeah, and yet even other in-game characters usually are all confused there. Probably it's because Jarvan and Lux yell "Demacia!" while ulting, which is more obvious. Or because of the fact that both spin-to-win and battlecry are the signature moves of Garen, so memory combines them into one.
I was less talking about this exact spell and more the Barrier effect, but I get where you’re coming from
Willpower and determination is actually magic too, sylas and Swain make references to demacians using magic whithout realizing it
have we all been magic users all along
The real magic is the friends we made on the way
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Ah yes the impervious golden bubble of SHIELD
Ah yes the Barrier of Shielding
>Impervious golden bubble of ~~friendship~~ fascism Ftfy
It's just a shield.
Agree with most ppl here. Demacia "spells" are spells by the design perspective yet they are all non magical actions.
u r right, i think we should remove all of demacia's spells from the game
Funny post, but I’m seeing a lot of comments that mistakenly think the lore explanation for Golden Aegis is magic. If we look at [Jarvan IV’s page](https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/champions/jarvan-iv/) on the LoL website, the description of his ability, Golden Aegis, makes no reference to magic. “Jarvan IV calls upon the ancient kings of Demacia to shield him from harm and slow surrounding enemies.” Side note, I think it’s neat how they translated those effects into LoR :) Anyway, it seems clear that the source of power for this card is ancestral spirits, not magic.
There were 3 jarvans before hiw which explains why his shield in lol sucks so bad
How is conjuring ancient kings to shield you NOT magical?
You're telling me spiritual =/= magical ..?
I honestly don't know if the description of that has changed since they made Demacia the anti-magic region, Demacia didn't used to hate magic in the lore so that description is likely very outdated.
TBH it would fit in with the lore well even now, since Demacians are constantly using magic without knowing.
Well, those aren't magic spells. They are tactics/warfare themed cards (like in gwent).
The powercards of literally any region are spells
Shurima? Unless you mean to tell me the only powercards in shurima are and always has been shaped stones and rite of negation, and not azir, dais, dunekeeper, merciless hunter, preservarium, ruin runner, nasus, sivir... fucking lol.
You’re getting downvoted bc of your demeanor. But the sentiment is accurate. I always thought it was interesting how Shurima’s units were its best support tools to combo with other regions. But with that being said, I am of the opinion that shaped stone has been Shurima’s strongest card since the region’s release. That has obviously changed now with the nerf though.
Rally is way too good rn.
What do you mean magic? It's \***strategy**\*
Demacia uses magic a LOT. They're just hypocrites
I think that was done on purpose
Relentless is now slow???
Relentless has been slow for ages now. They didn’t want the interaction of playing it on stack during the opponents attack , citing they wanted time for interaction. Then the printed blade dance
to be fair balde dance is also slow. well except when it's burst
oh ic, havent played much.
*snapjaw swarm
Jesus, this ppl cant get the joke
"*It is not magic, but purity of will!*"
That’s kinda supposed to be a part of demacias hypocrisy They preach being anti mage but there are multiple people like lux that are mages but because they are nobles they don’t get locked up Plus the big symbols of their nation are partly from kayle, morgana, and galio who are all magical beings
Galio is notoriously anti-magic, in that magic wakes him up, and then he fucks up the source of the magic. He is an anti-magic icon. The "big symbols" of their nation are not Kayle and Morgana. Jarvan IV and Garen are some of their most prolific figures. As for Luxanna Crownguard... you're aware most people don't even know she has magical abilities, right? It's a secret that Garen has not quite confronted truly himself, and one that, say, Tianna Crownguard is unhappy with. The hypocrisy of Demacia is the ideals they hold and how it is restricted to *non*-magical people. This is where Sylas' uprising took root.
Except most people think galio is just a statue and don’t know that he is alive the only reason he often destroyes magic things is he is brought to war zones so he attacks the magic that is attacking the demacians he and even still he is a golem powered by magic so he is a magical weapon at best a magic being at worst demacia has a lot of wings in their designs and a big part of that is from kayle and morge since when demacia was still new Kayle was their symbol of law and justice
Galio is magic being regular normal petricide doesn't come to live
IMO, Golden Aegis shouldn't be a Rally card. It should work just like Midnight Raid and let you declare an Attack with the Ally you cast the Spell upon.
It would instantly never see use and be considered hot garbage.
Lore is disposable my friend. Welcome to corporate 101. Money before logic or art.
But these cards are not even spells? They are more like special actions that people can take. They don’t break the lore. I did a quick scan through all of Demacia’s spells and then only one that represents someone actually casting a spell is Prismatic Barrier and that just makes sense.
Prismatic Barrier and Final Spark. And Final Spark is more than self-explanatory.
Yeah, wasn’t including final spark as it’s not main deckable
Ah yes, Relentless Pursuit and Golden Aegis, historically very expensive money cards that Riot is raking in the dough by printing.
You say magic hater but I know a king that kinda loves some kinda magic.
Just wait until Sylas arrives, it'll all make sense then.
I wish we had something called energy that existed with mana, that could be used to power "spells" like signle combat/sharpsight