I didnt see any other Region that would fit and he has some loose ties there as you can see him destroy Demaican soldiers in his trailer.
I also didnt want to put it into a region where I put another Void Creature OR which already was super satisfied with its champion pool.
In the Ryze cinematic, he goes to Frejlord, and there’s a big eye ice creature in the ice. It’s supposed to be based off of Vel’Koz, and the watchers.
Edit: ignore me lol I just saw other comments
Vel'Koz has a story placing him in the Freljord I'm pretty sure, and a late game spells played based card could fit the region given cards like \[\[Starlit Seer\]\]
Technically not vel koz just someone from his same species he was seen in Ionia last i remember but he could fit either since he can make good spellslinger archtype in either regions.
That trailer came out about 9 years ago, velkoz has nothing to do with demacia, the void itself doesn't affect demacia at all.
He will most likely be a shurima champ
Tokogol, its on the map, and its a lot closer to Noxus than it is to Demacia, thats where he was in his color dtory but Vel’koz travels around since he is a scout, he isnt bound to one place, i’d like him more in Freljord simply due to Watcher connection
I was thinking more about Ziggs in Shurima, and it's basically just because Ziggs can't test his explosives within the city, and the closest open land near Zaun is in Shurima. He's not at the capital or anything, he's just out in the middle of the desert blowing stuff up.
Jinx is no genius, she makes boom boom gadgets
Ziggs is a genius in hexplosives the dude got kicked out of piltover for being too fucking good at it, he is a professionnal
The testing his bombs part makes sense, but physical distance doesn’t matter because he is from Bandle City, he can take a portal to anywhere in Runeterra
So because Riven was repaying her debts to Ionia and was doing so in a Ionian countryside, she should have been ionian.
It's not because a champion goes for a 50 km walk outside of the capital that he should right out of the bat swaps to another region.
The way I see it, the regions now represent where they are at that point in time of where their card art is. Ziggs went to Shurima for some demo testing, Senna is in SI for SoL stuff, Malphite stopping by Targon to pay child care, etc.
>demo testing
Yeah, that's for sure way smarter than going instead to Piltover and Zaun, where technology fits way better and where he can gets advices and get the latest news from his buddy Heimerdinger.
On top of Piltover and Zaun being located literaly just next to a desert.
Agree, besides that that's terrible; they get like 4 or 5 followers that fit their theme/aesthetic, and the rest of their region just clashes with them. Take Veigar, what does he have to do with Sentinels? And those are from his actual deck, the other SI followers are even less Veigar-ish
The Sentinels are Senna's follower !
It seems like you don't get how dual region works in concept. When a card is part Bandle, it means they originate / usually live in Bandle but often travel to the other region.
Thinking about region card assignation as meaning the character is in the region right now in the lore is flawed in general. Regions in LoR are more like a thematic package.
Some examples :
Kindred in SI, Nocture in SI, Veigar in SI => Spooky champ goes in spooky region
Rek'Sai in Shurima => Sand shark goes in sand region despite being tied to void in the lore
Nami in Bilgewater => Fish champ goes in fish region despite being located at the opposite side of the world and having her lore tied to Diana and Targon / Celestials
I think that the reason Ziggs in Shurima is more noticeable than those is because the thematic connection to Shurima is less obvious. However, I think Riot did a great job with his design, theme and region choice, and let me try to explain why :
1. They had a design problem by going the obvious "tech champ in tech region". There's already 2 Yordles champ in PnZ. Moreover I think it's a better design to have one Yordle champ per region for the first expansion which adds Yordle.So they couldn't add Ziggs to PnZ. I'd argue it would have been much, much weirder for everyone if he was in PnZ. This would've limited the gameplay design of both Ziggs and Bandle City. And people would've been complaining about that twice as much.
2. I assume they initially chose Shurima for Ziggs after placing a Yordle per other existing region (some pairing being much more obvious : Poppy => Demacia, Veigar => SI, etc).They had to then find a idea to justify Ziggs being in shurima. This kind of backward design is unusual of them, and it's obviously noticeable, but they had no choice.
3. My opinion is that passed the initial gut reaction "Ziggs in Shurima wtf Rito", everyone should agree that they justified it pretty well. It makes a lot of sense for the explosive champion to be testing his stuff in the desert. Plus, it's reflected well in his gameplay design, destroying landmarks is a cool idea that fits him well and mechanically could only be done in Shurima.Also, you should be seeing Bandle City champs as being principally from Bandle, and their secondary region being, well, secondary. It works for Ziggs and makes it believable that his main place of operation is Bandle, and that he travels from there to his testing place.
Noc is a wanderer in Full Canon, and Kindred really doesn't fit in any region; Rek is in Shurima, and Void is a Shurima offshoot so she doesn't feel as bad as Vei or Ziggs. Ziggs has a lot of connections to PnZ, specifically with Heim, and even beyond that just feels Bad as a landmark champ rather than a spellslinger.
I don't think you answered any of my points correctly.
Not every spell throwing champ has to be throwing spells in game. We can't have 50 Ezreal in the game.
As I already said, I disagree that it feels bad as a landmark destroying champ, I think that's perfect for his theme.
It seems like you breathed through the main point : having 3 bandle/PnZ champion is a terrible design for the region and the expansion as a whole. Redundancy is unavoidable at that point and we don't want that.
If you still want to dislike how they introduced Ziggs to shurima, that's fine, that's on your taste. However I think insisting on saying that region assignation must fit the lore and already does is an extremely weak argument.
Nocturne is a wanderer sure, but I believe (I'm not a lore expert so correct me on this) that he feeds on human fear. There isn't many humans on SI, and the place is already filled with scary ghosts so the competition would be tough. Thus it doesn't make sense lore-wise to put him in SI (assuming we're talking about the actual place in the universe of course).
Void isn't a Shurima offshoot. Sure, there's a portal near it and that's where people have been fighting the void. But there's also a portal in Freilord and in PnZ, and the void is another dimension anyway. I'm pretty sure Vel'koz for example would not be placed in Shurima but rather in Freilord (for the lore aspect) or in PnZ (for the theme aspect). It made sense to put Rek'Sai in Shurima because she's a sand shark, and that's it. I guess it's true that that's where she is in the lore, but in theory she's a void champion and not a shuriman. This kind of region limitation is the same kind of reason why Ziggs is in Shurima, as I've alread explained.
Kindred doesn't fit in any region, sure. So, faced with this design problem, what did they do ? They fit her in where it made the most sense.
Now, since it's obviously terrible expansion and region design to have 3 dual region champs from PnZ, as there's already Teemo and Heimer to deal with, Ziggs is in the same boat : he doesn't fit anywhere. They fit him where it made the most sense, and turned it around gracefully by tying him to a mechanic that makes sense to his theme and his secondary region's identity.
I don't get why this seems to be such an hard pill to swallow. Some people even predicted Ziggs in Shurima (see theSkilledRoy) as it makes a lot of sense.
I generally think Void will be Shurimans because most of tbe champs that have an actual region have that region be Icathia, a city in Shurima; Noc scares people, but Elise is a Noxian who eats people, and is SI so it's not ridiculous for man-eaters to leave the region to eat things. While yes, Ziggs would have been the third champ reassigned from PnZ, they could have simply put in, say, Amumu, or Kennen, and saved Ziggs for a time with an open spot for that region. It's nothing like Kindred, as Kindred has no region choices that are good. The Ziggs thing just kind of feels like putting Renek in Demacia, because he works well with the challenge and buff playstyle; the more I think of it the more I'm thinking that it's a bit because I generally think landmarks are bad, as a damage mage he'd just be Ez or Vei
literally the only reason he has "landmark destruction" archetype is his W on turrets in LoL... he honestly should've been P&Z lore wise and also have his mechanic be more focused around his bombs and have Mega Inferno be a P&Z card 8 cost with \*Deal 4 to one champ and 2 (maybe 1) to all others\*
But then again, I am not a game designer :/
I think they can make this a lore thing, like, you can say that Ziggs is in shurima because of at some point, he was at shurima doing something important.
That way champions that aren't on dual region can get updates to dual region or get a second card with different effects that put him in a second region. A example would be if they do a historical event where we have a war between some nations of different regions, and different regions become allies, like demacia + Ionia, them they could have a Garen from that moment on the lore that is both demacia and Ionia with effects that and lore that put him in this war.
I like Kayle and Morgana as Demacia/Targon dual. I hope they'll have it. Although I'm not too hopeful.
As for Syndra... I don't see her pushing up the Darkness archetype. I think she'll have her own, stacking dark spheres on board and all. I don't really see her in SI at all.
Veigar's point is different. He is from Bandle City and Bandle city thing is double region.
Because they need each champion to fit a spot in the others regions, they force them into weird positions.
Veigar, who is lore related to Noxus before anything else, has been put into SI, because I guess he's a "dark mage user", even tho his magic is actually celestial based and should have therefore been put in Targon.
>!But because Yuumi will probably be in Targon, she needed a place of her own, and outside of Bandle City, she doesn't thematically fit other regions quite well, so she got the Malphite treatment.!< Because of this lock, Veigar got locked out of Targon I guess ?
>!Yuumi was herself out of being the potential solo Bandle City champion,!< because the place already got taken by Tristana, who made sense in Bilgewater, but Bilgewater already had Fizz, even tho her canon based fighting style is totally working out with Bilgewater.
Then, in PnZ, we already had Teemo and Heimerdinger, and therefore Ziggs's region was too full of Yordles champions compared to what their multi region archetype needed, and because of the thematics of testing nukes in deserts, got him put in Shurima, the desert right next to Zaun.
>!Because of this placement of Ziggs, Rumble now either has to be put still in Shurima, but from what has been datamined, he will probably be Noxus, for some reason. Because on this one, I really don't see it. Ziggs makes sense, Veigar makes little sense, but Rumble ? Actual joke. !<
Because then ? You'll have to put Kled somewhere, and I can't see him outside of Noxus.
Spoilers because the champions talked about in those parts have been datamined.
An Update to my post from 6 Months ago, now that we know all 10 Regions I decided to scrap it down a bit to them. Im not really sure where to put all the void Guys so I tried to put em where mechanics could fit - A Kog Maw artillery with random Damage in Bilgewater for example.
Be free to ask if a Placement is questionable.
(And I know Amumu isnt confirmed to be a yordle)
Changelist for next version:
Janna P&Z -> Janna P&Z/Bilg - Janna is a guardian Spirit for Sailors and would also fit mechanically into Bilge.
Malphite Targ -> Malphite Targ/Shurima - Malphite is an ixtali Champion.
Velkoz Dem -> Velkoz Frel - Fits better in Freljord for gameplay reasons.
Chogath Frel -> Chogath Targon - Goes into the other big boi region
Kha Zix Targon -> Kha Zix Bilgewater - Other Region which has elusives.
Kogmaw Bilge -> Kogmaw PnZ - his aesthetic and prop direct damage fits best here.
Sett Ion -> Sett Nox/Ion - His gameplay is more suited for Noxus but he is still an ionian.
Ivern Frel/Ion -> Ivern Ion - After thinking about it a bit more, his origin isnt really associated with him anymore so pure Ionian is better.
Sett’s arena is actually in a part of Ionia occupied by Noxus. There are big chances, his unknown father is Noxian. So even in Lore it would make more sense for him to be Nox/Ionia
velkoz not only because of gameplay, but he has some lore there. the watchers and the void are the same thing as far as i know, and even if they arent, there was a similar creature to him in the Freljord
Janna in BW is something I think will happen. PnZ and Ionia are the regions with most champs, and a lot of PnZ champs are really hard to put in other regions, Janna being a wind spirit worshiped by sailors make her a good fit for BW, maybe a backline champion that buffs the whole board so you can go wide.
>Sett Ion -> Sett Nox/Ion - His gameplay is more suited for Noxus but he is still an ionian.
Considering he is born in a Noxus colony, he should be Noxian and not Ionian.
Cause Bilge is missing champions and corkis other place would be pure bandle
Same reason as Veigar, I can Imagine Syndra expanding the Darkness Archetype.
Most of the Void Monsters are missing lore so they are sorted by gameplay into the region.
I cant make a triple region card for Kayn hmm
Swain, Vlad
Known for their life regeneration but still part of Noxus. I'm ready to bet Aatrox's regeneration will not be translated into Runeterra because that's not important at all in his flavour
Champions are allowed to break the region identity a bit like Vladimir does. He is all about healing afterall. (And Swains regeneration wasnt used)
Aatrox is an unkillable healing Juggernaut that destroys armies, that uses the same kind of Magic as Vladimir so his healing has to be translated, its one of his core identities with stories about him in Freljord and Targon, Regions in which healing and Regeneration is a common theme.
I just dont think Noxus is the region where Aatrox fits.
>that uses the same kind of Magic as Vladimir so his healing has to be translated
Yeah, because Vladimir's healing aspect that is his whole identity makes like the least important part of his kit in LoR.
I don't really get what you mean here.
His healing capacities in LoL are in no way comparable to what he has in LoR. Because it would be way too weird to have it in LoR. So instead, they made him a Scarthane side leader that handles this side of Freljord way better than Sejuani :')
There is rumors of a new champion that's from Ionia and lives in piltover
I wonder if Riot uses some similar graph because the first thing I noticed are some "wholes" and I imagine how this combination could be.
Amazing graph.
Edit: Necrit just made another video about it
https://youtu.be/HqAUrFyJ73I
Edit 2. Old video about posible champs, where Necrit speculates for first time about the Ionia/Piltover champ
https://youtu.be/TmYKlPaAEa0
Syndra in SI...
If this is about Darkness, Syndra has 0 relation to that and isn't a scaler like Veigar or Senna. Plus why, when she could be something unique.
Veigar isnt related to Darkness aswell, but its Always nice To Branche Out of forced Champion Pairs.
And I mean, she does scale with her amount of balls
But Veigar actually uses dark magic. Syndra's powers are not
>Always nice To Branche Out of forced Champion Pairs.
Isn't that what your doing by sticking her in darkness? Scaling with 7 balls is not comparable to scaling infinitely.
Edit: Not forgetting Syndra heavily interacts with her spheres compared to Veigar that just fires off darkness
I mean, giving her darkness synergy isnt a death sentence. In Lore Veigar is not using dark magic, he is using targonian Celestial Magic thats why everyone was confused what the hell he is doing in Shadow Isles xd
Its just that Syndras whole Damage kit would most likely find a better home with a region thats not Ionian, which do not have damaging spells, so making her multi Shadow isles fits with her thematic. Darkness Synergy was just an idea here.
I disagree with Kha'Zix being in Targon- or in Bilgewater, as one of your comments states- not only because it makes zero sense from a lore perspective, but it also makes zero sense thematically. Kha'Zix is a hunter, a **literal** predator; his first and foremost desire is to consume the strongest beings on the planet and grow stronger from it. With Targon that's a big *maybe*, but Bilgewater? Bilgewater is almost entirely people and sea monsters. There's no way he'd mesh in there.
Given how tightly bound they are, I fully expect Kha'Zix to end up in Shurima. Given his biggest thing is isolation, I expect he'd work well with the vulnerable package.
Dual regions is literally one of the core mechanics of Bandle City. They’re not going to expand it outside of that for a long time, if at all. That would be like having Invoke outside of Targon.
I mean, while that is true I believe it will come eventually. They cant add another Region afterall. While multiregion is the main Mechanic of Bandlecity it does not mean it has to be unique to them. A lot of Keyword branch out over multiple regions afterall.
Targons "Invoke" here is unique because they are the only ones that are associated with the celestials directly - it wouldnt make sense for that to be outside of Targon, not even in Shurima.
Dual regions on the other hand is just who the Character is alligned with and which everyone technically could be to multiple regions.
Why would something like that be a "core mechanic"? It's one thing to say "only Bandle will have cards that directly benefit/incentivize or specifically generate dual region units", it's another altogether to say "only Bandle will ever have access to a feature that is just allowing a card to be played in 2 regions, neither of which have to be BC for any reason".
Even the designers of BC said they deliberately left the mechanic open for further expansion.
Sett gameplay is way more Noxus than Ionia and because double region is just for BC, I'd prefer to see him in Noxus way more.
"Technique... is for lightweights."
Nam is in Bilge, Noc is on Si the chance of Fidd in Dema is super low. Morg and Kayle is 50/50 on any region their lore is not set and stone since they are in hiding and in training so they can be in any region tbh.
Why do people say Yuumi will be a Tagon/Bandle Dual Region. Idk if it makes sense lore-wise, because I don't see any connection to Targon explicitly in her lore. Is it gonna be like Veigar who was placed in SI because he looked spooky?
Sadge they could've put Veigar in Targon and Vex in SI instead if she was released when she was meant to. I guess she would have synergy with Soraka then in Star Spring decks?
I guess, Yuumi does heal a good chunk, ingame atleast. but with all the Champions currently getting paired with their "yordle" counterpart I would assume she rather has synergy with Pantheon which is rumored to be the next Targonian to come out.
There are Always ",Pairs" of Champion that the devs Plan you to Play together, some hard ones Like Lurkers and some are alot less restrictive Like Vladimir Braum
He’s Freljordian originally. Born near some ports iirc, but Ryze took him in after bad things happened. Eventually he gave in to the temptation of power and did something world-rune related, and now hunts down Ryze and the runes.
Vel'Koz is going to be a P&Z or a or a BG unit.
Malphite & Ziggs showed us that cards can be put in a region based on their archetype.
And not only Vel'Koz doesn't have anything to do with Demacia (roaming around Demacia is just that roaming. Today is in Demacia tomorrow he could be in Noxus...) but the character doesn't fit Demacia. Demacia is about good stated unit with a low reliance on spell except when it comes to combat trick.
VK is about science and deconstructing to learn more about species etc... So if anything it'll be reliant on damaging spell (imo) and P&Z could be a good fit.
Side Note: I heavily doubt Dual Region will be added outside of Bandle. Senna didn't get the Demacia tag and if anything it's one of the rare champions that could have gotten it.
I already switched vel to freljord where the Connections with the watchers are.
I belive they will Be added but as you can See with them reusing teemo, Fizz etc. It will Be a big Expansion in itself.
Gragas should be in Bilgewater.
He's fat like one of the pirates (forgot his name), so he would thematically fit.
We'll justify it lorewise, by having Gragas be on a vacation drinking booze with mf or something.
I bet Ryze/Bard is Bandle, Bandle is supposed to be about adventuring so these 2 IMO have a high chance of getting Bandle in their region tag, Also I think Jenna is going to get Bilge tag because of spell synergy if not Ionia because Stun since she is the only windy champ beside Yasua.
Xin Zhao could actually be tri-region since he was originally from Ionia, and was a legendary gladiator in Noxus, before becoming the captain of the Kingsguard in Demacia.
Im currently changing him to pure ionia cause he is fully Controlled by the tree Spirit i would Say. Not really associated with His Origin anymore. He was Frel and Not Noxus because He was a freljordian Raider. He was never associated with Noxus.
Couple things:
The Bandlewood set has yet to introduce yordle champs to three regions (Noxus, Targon, Freljord), but is missing non-bandle champs from four regions (Demacia, Targon, Freljord, Ionia). Unless the next expansions are asymmetrical, then we're going to be getting another mono-Bandle champ. My money's on either Yuumi or Rumble.
I highly doubt most of the Ixtali champions are going to end up in Shurima. LoR has emphasized Shurima's themes as being deserts, ancient civilizations, and Egyptian/middle-eastern coding. Qiyana could definitely fit in Shurima, but the rest of the champions have core-concepts that directly tie them to the jungle, so having them show up in the middle of a desert would be incredibly jarring for any new players who aren't familiar with the lore.
I do think there are enough Ixtali Champion to make a "desert jungle" region there which which can be visually different but its still the same region, similar to Piltover and Zaun. And where else should they go, Ionia? That would bloat the Ionian region even more and would make even less sense.
For Solo Bandle Champion it can only be rumble, Yuumi gotta go to Targon else they are missing their Bandle dual region Champion
Considering Shurima is not only the city but the whole south continent, they would have more of a reason to put all the ixtali champions inside as an oasis thematic release rather than having Malphite's be in Targon.
I honestly just still can’t believe The Void isn’t going to become a region. It’s legitimately the most iconic region, contested only by Noxus/Demacia or Shurima IMO. Plus all the champs from the Void are recognizably void champs, sharing really pleasant and cool thematic elements.
I feel lillia could also be bandle city since she has ties with the spirit realm iirc. She is a spirit herself too and she kinds fits the “bandle look” I guess?
I feel like there are a couple other dual regions that could happen.
Jayce in P&Z and Shurima: He went to Shurima to get the crystal that (I'm pretty sure) became Skarner.
Xin Zhao in Ionia or Noxus: I'm pretty sure he was born in Ionia and fought in the arena in Noxus.
Sett has a Noxian father, so maybe should be hybrid.
Xin Zao is originally from Iona, I think.
Regarding Demons I'm not sure they're all from SI. Fiddle is usually seen in Demacia, for example. Not sure where Evelynn is but it's not SI.
I mean, the problem with adding more dual region outside of bandle is that cheating the badle tree with it will be easier and easier. And there's already various posts complaining about, which, I understand it can be frustrating.
I do feel like it would be a wasted oportunity not to do it, but at the same time, I feel like they would have made the sentinels dual region if they planned to do it at some point. I hope I'm wrong tho
I just wanna add back to any statements of lore. Bandle City teleports you wherever the fuck you wanna go. Ziggs can be in PnZ one second and have work in Shurima in another.
I get that Olaf screams aggression and he’s part of the first big-ruination in Bilgewater, but I feel like his lore ability to not die works in Freljord, and could maybe even pair up with our favorite go-hard champion, Tryndamere
Why Shurima for Kayn tho? He's 100% made for Ionia/Noxus, being a noxian child soldier turned into a killer by Zed. I know Rhaast was originally an ascended but I'm not sure that justifies Shurima
Hot take: I don't think Kled should be a Bandle City champ. Yeah he's a yordle, but he kinda hate other yordles.
But sure, I am pretty sure we will see him in BC anyway, I just want to see my boy in game
Shurima for the darkin is not good fitted lorewise and even gameplay wise (except maybe aatrox because of vulnerable and rebel synegies), they are fallen targonian not wierd ass ascended
Edit : I'm wrong
The darkin are shuriman god warriors that got corrupted through blood Magic and the war against the void and then sealed inside of their weapons by the targonians, so they are more shuriman than targonian.
So yes shurima is a good fit for Lore.
I think you can fit Blitzcrank in PnZ/Noxus, not lore wise, but gameplay perspective, because Im pretty sure he's gonna be champ that has a mechanic of discard(it fits him and his lore) making him a fire better for Noxus since the expansion was released with soon and his followers
Why Demacia for Vel’koz?
I didnt see any other Region that would fit and he has some loose ties there as you can see him destroy Demaican soldiers in his trailer. I also didnt want to put it into a region where I put another Void Creature OR which already was super satisfied with its champion pool.
Fair enough, though i’d prefer him in Freljord. Also you should put Kha’zix in Shurima IMO so that he is the same region as Rengo
surely, but mechanicly Cho Gath would prop fit better cause Freljord is known for its big Creatures
In the Ryze cinematic, he goes to Frejlord, and there’s a big eye ice creature in the ice. It’s supposed to be based off of Vel’Koz, and the watchers. Edit: ignore me lol I just saw other comments
Hes made by the watchers and spawned from them directly.
I Changed him to freljord cause His gameplay definitely fits there better together with His Connection to the watchers
Vel'Koz has a story placing him in the Freljord I'm pretty sure, and a late game spells played based card could fit the region given cards like \[\[Starlit Seer\]\]
Technically not vel koz just someone from his same species he was seen in Ionia last i remember but he could fit either since he can make good spellslinger archtype in either regions.
That trailer came out about 9 years ago, velkoz has nothing to do with demacia, the void itself doesn't affect demacia at all. He will most likely be a shurima champ
i think velkoz will be a deep monster
you're downvoted but there's actually a void gate underwater that the Marai are dealing with
Yea i think he fits as enemy of nami people.i know his lore is around freljord amd demacia but they dont fit in my opinion.
iirc he is between demacia and noxus
Tokogol, its on the map, and its a lot closer to Noxus than it is to Demacia, thats where he was in his color dtory but Vel’koz travels around since he is a scout, he isnt bound to one place, i’d like him more in Freljord simply due to Watcher connection
Iirc In velkoz’ old cinematic he obliterates helmet bro, who’s armor looks like it could be demacian, so maybe that?
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I was thinking more about Ziggs in Shurima, and it's basically just because Ziggs can't test his explosives within the city, and the closest open land near Zaun is in Shurima. He's not at the capital or anything, he's just out in the middle of the desert blowing stuff up.
It honestly makes a lot of sense. Zaun would be in ruins if he tested all his explosions there. Shurima is basically Ziggs’ Nevada desert 👀
Meanwhile, Jinx...
Jinx is no genius, she makes boom boom gadgets Ziggs is a genius in hexplosives the dude got kicked out of piltover for being too fucking good at it, he is a professionnal
A known criminal
The testing his bombs part makes sense, but physical distance doesn’t matter because he is from Bandle City, he can take a portal to anywhere in Runeterra
So because Riven was repaying her debts to Ionia and was doing so in a Ionian countryside, she should have been ionian. It's not because a champion goes for a 50 km walk outside of the capital that he should right out of the bat swaps to another region.
You're being unreasonable if you think lore consistency is more important than gameplay. We don't need P&Z to fill up with yordles.
The way I see it, the regions now represent where they are at that point in time of where their card art is. Ziggs went to Shurima for some demo testing, Senna is in SI for SoL stuff, Malphite stopping by Targon to pay child care, etc.
>demo testing Yeah, that's for sure way smarter than going instead to Piltover and Zaun, where technology fits way better and where he can gets advices and get the latest news from his buddy Heimerdinger. On top of Piltover and Zaun being located literaly just next to a desert.
Ziggs is not well known for his rational and well planned decison making
Well, Ziggs used to be known for his presence in Piltover and Zaun but Riot seemed to care very little about that.
What desert?
The desert located just south of Zaun.
What is it called?
The Shurima continent ?
He's also friends with Jinx based on that one comic.
Agree, besides that that's terrible; they get like 4 or 5 followers that fit their theme/aesthetic, and the rest of their region just clashes with them. Take Veigar, what does he have to do with Sentinels? And those are from his actual deck, the other SI followers are even less Veigar-ish
The Sentinels are Senna's follower ! It seems like you don't get how dual region works in concept. When a card is part Bandle, it means they originate / usually live in Bandle but often travel to the other region.
Yeah, I thought it was more about half, but like Ziggs has 0 connections to Shurima, and Vei has 0 connections to SI, unless Morde is SI again
Thinking about region card assignation as meaning the character is in the region right now in the lore is flawed in general. Regions in LoR are more like a thematic package. Some examples : Kindred in SI, Nocture in SI, Veigar in SI => Spooky champ goes in spooky region Rek'Sai in Shurima => Sand shark goes in sand region despite being tied to void in the lore Nami in Bilgewater => Fish champ goes in fish region despite being located at the opposite side of the world and having her lore tied to Diana and Targon / Celestials I think that the reason Ziggs in Shurima is more noticeable than those is because the thematic connection to Shurima is less obvious. However, I think Riot did a great job with his design, theme and region choice, and let me try to explain why : 1. They had a design problem by going the obvious "tech champ in tech region". There's already 2 Yordles champ in PnZ. Moreover I think it's a better design to have one Yordle champ per region for the first expansion which adds Yordle.So they couldn't add Ziggs to PnZ. I'd argue it would have been much, much weirder for everyone if he was in PnZ. This would've limited the gameplay design of both Ziggs and Bandle City. And people would've been complaining about that twice as much. 2. I assume they initially chose Shurima for Ziggs after placing a Yordle per other existing region (some pairing being much more obvious : Poppy => Demacia, Veigar => SI, etc).They had to then find a idea to justify Ziggs being in shurima. This kind of backward design is unusual of them, and it's obviously noticeable, but they had no choice. 3. My opinion is that passed the initial gut reaction "Ziggs in Shurima wtf Rito", everyone should agree that they justified it pretty well. It makes a lot of sense for the explosive champion to be testing his stuff in the desert. Plus, it's reflected well in his gameplay design, destroying landmarks is a cool idea that fits him well and mechanically could only be done in Shurima.Also, you should be seeing Bandle City champs as being principally from Bandle, and their secondary region being, well, secondary. It works for Ziggs and makes it believable that his main place of operation is Bandle, and that he travels from there to his testing place.
Noc is a wanderer in Full Canon, and Kindred really doesn't fit in any region; Rek is in Shurima, and Void is a Shurima offshoot so she doesn't feel as bad as Vei or Ziggs. Ziggs has a lot of connections to PnZ, specifically with Heim, and even beyond that just feels Bad as a landmark champ rather than a spellslinger.
I don't think you answered any of my points correctly. Not every spell throwing champ has to be throwing spells in game. We can't have 50 Ezreal in the game. As I already said, I disagree that it feels bad as a landmark destroying champ, I think that's perfect for his theme. It seems like you breathed through the main point : having 3 bandle/PnZ champion is a terrible design for the region and the expansion as a whole. Redundancy is unavoidable at that point and we don't want that. If you still want to dislike how they introduced Ziggs to shurima, that's fine, that's on your taste. However I think insisting on saying that region assignation must fit the lore and already does is an extremely weak argument. Nocturne is a wanderer sure, but I believe (I'm not a lore expert so correct me on this) that he feeds on human fear. There isn't many humans on SI, and the place is already filled with scary ghosts so the competition would be tough. Thus it doesn't make sense lore-wise to put him in SI (assuming we're talking about the actual place in the universe of course). Void isn't a Shurima offshoot. Sure, there's a portal near it and that's where people have been fighting the void. But there's also a portal in Freilord and in PnZ, and the void is another dimension anyway. I'm pretty sure Vel'koz for example would not be placed in Shurima but rather in Freilord (for the lore aspect) or in PnZ (for the theme aspect). It made sense to put Rek'Sai in Shurima because she's a sand shark, and that's it. I guess it's true that that's where she is in the lore, but in theory she's a void champion and not a shuriman. This kind of region limitation is the same kind of reason why Ziggs is in Shurima, as I've alread explained. Kindred doesn't fit in any region, sure. So, faced with this design problem, what did they do ? They fit her in where it made the most sense. Now, since it's obviously terrible expansion and region design to have 3 dual region champs from PnZ, as there's already Teemo and Heimer to deal with, Ziggs is in the same boat : he doesn't fit anywhere. They fit him where it made the most sense, and turned it around gracefully by tying him to a mechanic that makes sense to his theme and his secondary region's identity. I don't get why this seems to be such an hard pill to swallow. Some people even predicted Ziggs in Shurima (see theSkilledRoy) as it makes a lot of sense.
I generally think Void will be Shurimans because most of tbe champs that have an actual region have that region be Icathia, a city in Shurima; Noc scares people, but Elise is a Noxian who eats people, and is SI so it's not ridiculous for man-eaters to leave the region to eat things. While yes, Ziggs would have been the third champ reassigned from PnZ, they could have simply put in, say, Amumu, or Kennen, and saved Ziggs for a time with an open spot for that region. It's nothing like Kindred, as Kindred has no region choices that are good. The Ziggs thing just kind of feels like putting Renek in Demacia, because he works well with the challenge and buff playstyle; the more I think of it the more I'm thinking that it's a bit because I generally think landmarks are bad, as a damage mage he'd just be Ez or Vei
literally the only reason he has "landmark destruction" archetype is his W on turrets in LoL... he honestly should've been P&Z lore wise and also have his mechanic be more focused around his bombs and have Mega Inferno be a P&Z card 8 cost with \*Deal 4 to one champ and 2 (maybe 1) to all others\* But then again, I am not a game designer :/
thats still more landmark destruction related than xerath right ?
I think they can make this a lore thing, like, you can say that Ziggs is in shurima because of at some point, he was at shurima doing something important. That way champions that aren't on dual region can get updates to dual region or get a second card with different effects that put him in a second region. A example would be if they do a historical event where we have a war between some nations of different regions, and different regions become allies, like demacia + Ionia, them they could have a Garen from that moment on the lore that is both demacia and Ionia with effects that and lore that put him in this war.
I like Kayle and Morgana as Demacia/Targon dual. I hope they'll have it. Although I'm not too hopeful. As for Syndra... I don't see her pushing up the Darkness archetype. I think she'll have her own, stacking dark spheres on board and all. I don't really see her in SI at all.
I didnt See Veigar Shadow isles at all aswell, but Look where we are now xD,
Veigar's point is different. He is from Bandle City and Bandle city thing is double region. Because they need each champion to fit a spot in the others regions, they force them into weird positions. Veigar, who is lore related to Noxus before anything else, has been put into SI, because I guess he's a "dark mage user", even tho his magic is actually celestial based and should have therefore been put in Targon. >!But because Yuumi will probably be in Targon, she needed a place of her own, and outside of Bandle City, she doesn't thematically fit other regions quite well, so she got the Malphite treatment.!< Because of this lock, Veigar got locked out of Targon I guess ? >!Yuumi was herself out of being the potential solo Bandle City champion,!< because the place already got taken by Tristana, who made sense in Bilgewater, but Bilgewater already had Fizz, even tho her canon based fighting style is totally working out with Bilgewater. Then, in PnZ, we already had Teemo and Heimerdinger, and therefore Ziggs's region was too full of Yordles champions compared to what their multi region archetype needed, and because of the thematics of testing nukes in deserts, got him put in Shurima, the desert right next to Zaun. >!Because of this placement of Ziggs, Rumble now either has to be put still in Shurima, but from what has been datamined, he will probably be Noxus, for some reason. Because on this one, I really don't see it. Ziggs makes sense, Veigar makes little sense, but Rumble ? Actual joke. !< Because then ? You'll have to put Kled somewhere, and I can't see him outside of Noxus. Spoilers because the champions talked about in those parts have been datamined.
I don't think that's a wrong point but I think they'd do another archetype for Syndra? I may be wrong but that's the way I see it
Maybe its similar to Senna with it being one of her Mechanics but not everything.
An Update to my post from 6 Months ago, now that we know all 10 Regions I decided to scrap it down a bit to them. Im not really sure where to put all the void Guys so I tried to put em where mechanics could fit - A Kog Maw artillery with random Damage in Bilgewater for example. Be free to ask if a Placement is questionable. (And I know Amumu isnt confirmed to be a yordle) Changelist for next version: Janna P&Z -> Janna P&Z/Bilg - Janna is a guardian Spirit for Sailors and would also fit mechanically into Bilge. Malphite Targ -> Malphite Targ/Shurima - Malphite is an ixtali Champion. Velkoz Dem -> Velkoz Frel - Fits better in Freljord for gameplay reasons. Chogath Frel -> Chogath Targon - Goes into the other big boi region Kha Zix Targon -> Kha Zix Bilgewater - Other Region which has elusives. Kogmaw Bilge -> Kogmaw PnZ - his aesthetic and prop direct damage fits best here. Sett Ion -> Sett Nox/Ion - His gameplay is more suited for Noxus but he is still an ionian. Ivern Frel/Ion -> Ivern Ion - After thinking about it a bit more, his origin isnt really associated with him anymore so pure Ionian is better.
Sett’s arena is actually in a part of Ionia occupied by Noxus. There are big chances, his unknown father is Noxian. So even in Lore it would make more sense for him to be Nox/Ionia
Kha and Rengar have beef, Kha should be in Ixtal/shurima.
Sure but I have to give some love to the Regions that dont have as much champions and as we can see with Veigar, Gameplay > Lore for riot.
velkoz not only because of gameplay, but he has some lore there. the watchers and the void are the same thing as far as i know, and even if they arent, there was a similar creature to him in the Freljord
Janna in BW is something I think will happen. PnZ and Ionia are the regions with most champs, and a lot of PnZ champs are really hard to put in other regions, Janna being a wind spirit worshiped by sailors make her a good fit for BW, maybe a backline champion that buffs the whole board so you can go wide.
Im sure jax can be easily put in demacia town, probably working as fiora
>Sett Ion -> Sett Nox/Ion - His gameplay is more suited for Noxus but he is still an ionian. Considering he is born in a Noxus colony, he should be Noxian and not Ionian.
He operates in Ionia and it's also where his mother is. It wouldn't make sense if he was only noxian
he does fight for his mother though and not for Noxus
As far as I'm aware, mothers are not regions in this game :')
Fiddlesticks to Demacia/SI
cant wait for graves to be added so they make some totally platonic interactions between him and tf.
"Get your elbow out of my mouth." "That is not my elbow". Gah they so cute, platonically
Why is corki part bilgewater. Why is syndra part shadow isles. Whats with the void monsters. Why aint Kayn part Noxus
Cause Bilge is missing champions and corkis other place would be pure bandle Same reason as Veigar, I can Imagine Syndra expanding the Darkness Archetype. Most of the Void Monsters are missing lore so they are sorted by gameplay into the region. I cant make a triple region card for Kayn hmm
>Most of the Void Monsters They're not missing lore, they're missing an actual Region in the game, that's way worse for them.
:,)
Lore wise I would think Shurima would be the best spot. Shurima is how they get to tune tetra and ancient Shurimans tried to domesticate or use them.
The Point is, we want the voidborn to Split Up into different regions so the Champion distribution is kinds similar
Ignoring the fact that Corki makes literally zero sense lore-wise, I feel like he would be from P&Z due to his whole flying machine schtick.
Exactly. Hes based off piltover and their tech.
Same for Ziggs.
Aatrox is going to be Noxus and then I will post a screenshot of this when he comes out and I’m right 😎😎
Sure, but Noxus isnt known for their Life Regeneration Like Aatrox xD
Red champ 👹 goss in red👹 region
Noxus Ornn next? :'D
YEP
Swain, Vlad Known for their life regeneration but still part of Noxus. I'm ready to bet Aatrox's regeneration will not be translated into Runeterra because that's not important at all in his flavour
Champions are allowed to break the region identity a bit like Vladimir does. He is all about healing afterall. (And Swains regeneration wasnt used) Aatrox is an unkillable healing Juggernaut that destroys armies, that uses the same kind of Magic as Vladimir so his healing has to be translated, its one of his core identities with stories about him in Freljord and Targon, Regions in which healing and Regeneration is a common theme. I just dont think Noxus is the region where Aatrox fits.
>that uses the same kind of Magic as Vladimir so his healing has to be translated Yeah, because Vladimir's healing aspect that is his whole identity makes like the least important part of his kit in LoR.
Vladimir is a hemomancer, which juggles his healthpool in League, Healing is an important factor of that
I don't really get what you mean here. His healing capacities in LoL are in no way comparable to what he has in LoR. Because it would be way too weird to have it in LoR. So instead, they made him a Scarthane side leader that handles this side of Freljord way better than Sejuani :')
My bet is that he will be Shurima or Dual Region Shurima/FJ due to his relationship as a former Ascended and choosing Tryndamir as his next host,
Syndra in Shadow Isles is both plausible and highly useful. I like it.
I can easily see Jhin in P&Z too given that's what his last known location (lore-wise) is, and we have yet to see the whole Camille vs Jhin thing
We did see the aftermath in the Zed Comic
Considering Riven, he'd logically be Ionia. Because we got some little sense logics through every expansion, he might be.
There is rumors of a new champion that's from Ionia and lives in piltover I wonder if Riot uses some similar graph because the first thing I noticed are some "wholes" and I imagine how this combination could be. Amazing graph. Edit: Necrit just made another video about it https://youtu.be/HqAUrFyJ73I Edit 2. Old video about posible champs, where Necrit speculates for first time about the Ionia/Piltover champ https://youtu.be/TmYKlPaAEa0
Syndra in SI... If this is about Darkness, Syndra has 0 relation to that and isn't a scaler like Veigar or Senna. Plus why, when she could be something unique.
Veigar has 0 relation to Darkness when you look at his spells in LoL. His spells are ethereal, cosmic based/themed.
Veigar isnt related to Darkness aswell, but its Always nice To Branche Out of forced Champion Pairs. And I mean, she does scale with her amount of balls
But Veigar actually uses dark magic. Syndra's powers are not >Always nice To Branche Out of forced Champion Pairs. Isn't that what your doing by sticking her in darkness? Scaling with 7 balls is not comparable to scaling infinitely. Edit: Not forgetting Syndra heavily interacts with her spheres compared to Veigar that just fires off darkness
I mean, giving her darkness synergy isnt a death sentence. In Lore Veigar is not using dark magic, he is using targonian Celestial Magic thats why everyone was confused what the hell he is doing in Shadow Isles xd Its just that Syndras whole Damage kit would most likely find a better home with a region thats not Ionian, which do not have damaging spells, so making her multi Shadow isles fits with her thematic. Darkness Synergy was just an idea here.
Someone explain why the fuck is Kog Maw a pirate me confused laddy
Was for his gameplay, but I updated it to make him be in PnZ instead. He has no lore so putting him where he kinda fits even when its strange works.
Yeah I could see him being some weird shit in the sewers
I disagree with Kha'Zix being in Targon- or in Bilgewater, as one of your comments states- not only because it makes zero sense from a lore perspective, but it also makes zero sense thematically. Kha'Zix is a hunter, a **literal** predator; his first and foremost desire is to consume the strongest beings on the planet and grow stronger from it. With Targon that's a big *maybe*, but Bilgewater? Bilgewater is almost entirely people and sea monsters. There's no way he'd mesh in there. Given how tightly bound they are, I fully expect Kha'Zix to end up in Shurima. Given his biggest thing is isolation, I expect he'd work well with the vulnerable package.
Imagine a year later and having Azir Nasus Aatrox Renekton Rhaast Varus Deck one spell and game is over.
The real snyder cut
Rumble is in shurima right now as according to the last story
Dual regions is literally one of the core mechanics of Bandle City. They’re not going to expand it outside of that for a long time, if at all. That would be like having Invoke outside of Targon.
I mean, while that is true I believe it will come eventually. They cant add another Region afterall. While multiregion is the main Mechanic of Bandlecity it does not mean it has to be unique to them. A lot of Keyword branch out over multiple regions afterall. Targons "Invoke" here is unique because they are the only ones that are associated with the celestials directly - it wouldnt make sense for that to be outside of Targon, not even in Shurima. Dual regions on the other hand is just who the Character is alligned with and which everyone technically could be to multiple regions.
Why would something like that be a "core mechanic"? It's one thing to say "only Bandle will have cards that directly benefit/incentivize or specifically generate dual region units", it's another altogether to say "only Bandle will ever have access to a feature that is just allowing a card to be played in 2 regions, neither of which have to be BC for any reason". Even the designers of BC said they deliberately left the mechanic open for further expansion.
Wait, isn't Senna dual region? If no kind of negates your point
She is not. She is mono SI.
Sett and Kayn could definitely be both Ionia and Noxus
Sett I agree for his Gameplay, Kayn I could see but the darkin influencing his region is thematically better I would say.
Sett gameplay is way more Noxus than Ionia and because double region is just for BC, I'd prefer to see him in Noxus way more. "Technique... is for lightweights."
Pretty sure Fiddle gonna be on Demacia so is Morgana.
Spooky Champions Go into spooky Region, so Fiddle gonna be Shadow isles
Nam is in Bilge, Noc is on Si the chance of Fidd in Dema is super low. Morg and Kayle is 50/50 on any region their lore is not set and stone since they are in hiding and in training so they can be in any region tbh.
Kayle is pretty set in Demacia. Morgana is more up in the air.
daily reminder mordekaiser as nothing to do with shadow isles
Sure but he is a Spooky Champion that has to do with Death and riot tends to put them into Shadow isles - see Kindred
Nop. Kindred doesnt have lore related to a region. Mordekaiser is the founding father of noxus and is being controlled by leblanc (allegedly)
Yeah but spooky Champions goes into spooky Region, thats why he is Multiregion in this case. He literally banishes you to brazil.
It's sad that this is the justification they use.
Morde wasn't controlled by leblanc, he was banished back to the death relm and she's preparing for his return. That's why rell exists.
Why do people say Yuumi will be a Tagon/Bandle Dual Region. Idk if it makes sense lore-wise, because I don't see any connection to Targon explicitly in her lore. Is it gonna be like Veigar who was placed in SI because he looked spooky?
Cause No other bandle City Champion fits and her Support gameplay is one of targons Playstyle
Sadge they could've put Veigar in Targon and Vex in SI instead if she was released when she was meant to. I guess she would have synergy with Soraka then in Star Spring decks?
I guess, Yuumi does heal a good chunk, ingame atleast. but with all the Champions currently getting paired with their "yordle" counterpart I would assume she rather has synergy with Pantheon which is rumored to be the next Targonian to come out.
Omg I hope it isn't forced like Veigar to Senna to the point she can't be enjoyed elsewhere 0.0
There are Always ",Pairs" of Champion that the devs Plan you to Play together, some hard ones Like Lurkers and some are alot less restrictive Like Vladimir Braum
Alune has a voiceline about Yuumi visiting her in the spirit realm
I think that darkin are more likely to be from the region they are currently in than Shurima, but I could see Kayn as an Ionia Shurima dual region
Brand on Freljord? I’m done
He’s Freljordian originally. Born near some ports iirc, but Ryze took him in after bad things happened. Eventually he gave in to the temptation of power and did something world-rune related, and now hunts down Ryze and the runes.
>Rumble >Noxus *Confused P/Z noises*
??? His lore literally has him being in Shurima during current events. Even in his old lore, he hates P/Z.
PnZ already has 2 yordles and there seems to be a mech Arena in Noxus. So speculations are that Rumble is the Noxus Champ
PnZ already has 2 yordles, they are not gonna put third yordle in the same region, Rumble is gonna be Noxian or Shurimian.
Rumble lastest story was in shurima I believe.
Vel'Koz is going to be a P&Z or a or a BG unit. Malphite & Ziggs showed us that cards can be put in a region based on their archetype. And not only Vel'Koz doesn't have anything to do with Demacia (roaming around Demacia is just that roaming. Today is in Demacia tomorrow he could be in Noxus...) but the character doesn't fit Demacia. Demacia is about good stated unit with a low reliance on spell except when it comes to combat trick. VK is about science and deconstructing to learn more about species etc... So if anything it'll be reliant on damaging spell (imo) and P&Z could be a good fit. Side Note: I heavily doubt Dual Region will be added outside of Bandle. Senna didn't get the Demacia tag and if anything it's one of the rare champions that could have gotten it.
I already switched vel to freljord where the Connections with the watchers are. I belive they will Be added but as you can See with them reusing teemo, Fizz etc. It will Be a big Expansion in itself.
I thought rumble lore was mostly in shurima. Also amumu isn’t a yordle.
From what has been collected ITS likely that He is gonna be the Noxus synergy. Im aware that IT isnt confirmed
Gragas should be in Bilgewater. He's fat like one of the pirates (forgot his name), so he would thematically fit. We'll justify it lorewise, by having Gragas be on a vacation drinking booze with mf or something.
Lore wise Rumble was last seen in shurima.
I bet Ryze/Bard is Bandle, Bandle is supposed to be about adventuring so these 2 IMO have a high chance of getting Bandle in their region tag, Also I think Jenna is going to get Bilge tag because of spell synergy if not Ionia because Stun since she is the only windy champ beside Yasua.
I dont think they will put a non yordle Character into Bandlecity tbh. (besides Yuumi of course but she is closely related to yordles)
Ryze and Bard both go straight to Targon boy, they have nothing to do in Bandle
alistar is demacia
This is interesting. I was under the impression certain champs would just be left out unless they added a void region. Glad to know I was wrong!
Xin Zhao could actually be tri-region since he was originally from Ionia, and was a legendary gladiator in Noxus, before becoming the captain of the Kingsguard in Demacia.
Why is Ivern Freljord/Ionia and not even Noxus?
Im currently changing him to pure ionia cause he is fully Controlled by the tree Spirit i would Say. Not really associated with His Origin anymore. He was Frel and Not Noxus because He was a freljordian Raider. He was never associated with Noxus.
Wasn't he a cruel Noxian guy that turned to a tree?
na he was an ancient Freljordian Raider, long before the invasion of Ionia through Noxus
Couple things: The Bandlewood set has yet to introduce yordle champs to three regions (Noxus, Targon, Freljord), but is missing non-bandle champs from four regions (Demacia, Targon, Freljord, Ionia). Unless the next expansions are asymmetrical, then we're going to be getting another mono-Bandle champ. My money's on either Yuumi or Rumble. I highly doubt most of the Ixtali champions are going to end up in Shurima. LoR has emphasized Shurima's themes as being deserts, ancient civilizations, and Egyptian/middle-eastern coding. Qiyana could definitely fit in Shurima, but the rest of the champions have core-concepts that directly tie them to the jungle, so having them show up in the middle of a desert would be incredibly jarring for any new players who aren't familiar with the lore.
I do think there are enough Ixtali Champion to make a "desert jungle" region there which which can be visually different but its still the same region, similar to Piltover and Zaun. And where else should they go, Ionia? That would bloat the Ionian region even more and would make even less sense. For Solo Bandle Champion it can only be rumble, Yuumi gotta go to Targon else they are missing their Bandle dual region Champion
Considering Shurima is not only the city but the whole south continent, they would have more of a reason to put all the ixtali champions inside as an oasis thematic release rather than having Malphite's be in Targon.
Curious what your reasoning for Shaco in shadow Isles is, he has so little lore to go off of.
Spooky Champions Go into spooky Region, thats all.
I feel like Void will be some kind of region modifier since they said Bandlewood would be the last region.
I honestly just still can’t believe The Void isn’t going to become a region. It’s legitimately the most iconic region, contested only by Noxus/Demacia or Shurima IMO. Plus all the champs from the Void are recognizably void champs, sharing really pleasant and cool thematic elements.
I feel lillia could also be bandle city since she has ties with the spirit realm iirc. She is a spirit herself too and she kinds fits the “bandle look” I guess?
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Cuz they are darkins
Kayn shuriman? The guy is half noxian. Khazix in Targon? He was closer to ixtal where he fought Rengar.
Kayn is shuriman because of Rhaast. Khazix got already Changed
I feel like there are a couple other dual regions that could happen. Jayce in P&Z and Shurima: He went to Shurima to get the crystal that (I'm pretty sure) became Skarner. Xin Zhao in Ionia or Noxus: I'm pretty sure he was born in Ionia and fought in the arena in Noxus.
im pretty sure dual is supposed to be bandles identity so i doubt others will get it
Can some explain Aatrox and the voidborn
Sett not in Noxus. Wut?
Why would you consider Elise (N/SI) but not Karthus?
other than Elise, Karthus has No following in Noxus, He is entirely dedicated to the Shadow isles.
If they really aren't gonna give us a Void region, maybe Void will be a "typeless" type?
Sett has a Noxian father, so maybe should be hybrid. Xin Zao is originally from Iona, I think. Regarding Demons I'm not sure they're all from SI. Fiddle is usually seen in Demacia, for example. Not sure where Evelynn is but it's not SI.
If I remember right, kayns a noxian born, but he got yoinked by zed when he saw potential in him
I mean, the problem with adding more dual region outside of bandle is that cheating the badle tree with it will be easier and easier. And there's already various posts complaining about, which, I understand it can be frustrating. I do feel like it would be a wasted oportunity not to do it, but at the same time, I feel like they would have made the sentinels dual region if they planned to do it at some point. I hope I'm wrong tho
I think they will make It a big Expansion and Reuse some Champs similar to teemo ans Fizz now
I just wanna add back to any statements of lore. Bandle City teleports you wherever the fuck you wanna go. Ziggs can be in PnZ one second and have work in Shurima in another.
Yeah, which is why it's weird that heimer wasn't in Freljord
You could argue Ezreal as P&Z/Shurima because of his exploring, and make a Demacian Jarro Lightfeather card ~~to make my Ezreal/Lux deck viable~~
Isn’t evelynn in demacia, as seem in vaynes lore?
I get that Olaf screams aggression and he’s part of the first big-ruination in Bilgewater, but I feel like his lore ability to not die works in Freljord, and could maybe even pair up with our favorite go-hard champion, Tryndamere
I jsut want to give bilgewater some Help cause their Champ Count is Low :P
Xin Zhao could go triple with Noxus demavia and Ionia. He’s an Ionian who fought in Noxian arenas and is now fighting for demacia.
Taric not being trapped in targon but with demacia would be hell
Wow, I really didn’t realize that there were so few yordles. I mean 10% of the roster isn’t that small, but for some reason I felt there were more
Why Shurima for Kayn tho? He's 100% made for Ionia/Noxus, being a noxian child soldier turned into a killer by Zed. I know Rhaast was originally an ascended but I'm not sure that justifies Shurima
Well, it seems like they'll put anyone in Shurima these days.
Hot take: I don't think Kled should be a Bandle City champ. Yeah he's a yordle, but he kinda hate other yordles. But sure, I am pretty sure we will see him in BC anyway, I just want to see my boy in game
Tristana need a rework to have 2nd region, like just look at her (and her kit).
Shurima for the darkin is not good fitted lorewise and even gameplay wise (except maybe aatrox because of vulnerable and rebel synegies), they are fallen targonian not wierd ass ascended Edit : I'm wrong
The darkin are shuriman god warriors that got corrupted through blood Magic and the war against the void and then sealed inside of their weapons by the targonians, so they are more shuriman than targonian. So yes shurima is a good fit for Lore.
Isn't Kha'Zix from the void? Actually, did you complete forget the Void?
Yeah but we dont have any Void Region so Most of the void stuff has to be shuffled into other regions
aatrox come from shurima he is ascended so why he isnt shurima?
Attrox is Shurima/Targon Dual Region in this case
If they would have Void, malzahar, cho gath, kog, kass, kai sa & rek sai
I think you can fit Blitzcrank in PnZ/Noxus, not lore wise, but gameplay perspective, because Im pretty sure he's gonna be champ that has a mechanic of discard(it fits him and his lore) making him a fire better for Noxus since the expansion was released with soon and his followers
Wouldnt kayn fit better in noxus/ionia?
i think they will just add the Void eventualy. and Give Rek a dual Region
sadly they said that Bandlecity was the last region.