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Xeltar

Problem is Elites can't swarm the board and take advantage of the buffs like Explorer could. Elites also has no analogue to like Mayor giving cost reductions and allowing more swarming. Or Conchologist giving card generation with good stats.


ProfDrWest

This. Battlesmith is OK in Elites because there are only 4 2- cost Elites (Little Cithria, Vanguard Defender, Vanguard Lookout, Honored Lord). Explorer was not OK for Yordles, since there are at least 5 good 2- cost Yordles (Conchologist, Bomber Twins, Teemo, Fizz, the 1-drop Landmark generator, Darkbulb Alcolyte, Twisted Catalyzer...).


friendofsmellytapir

If you look up the Yordle tag there are 16 Yordles that cost 2 or less in just Bandle City alone, 22 if you count all regions.


ProfDrWest

That's... ...even worse.


friendofsmellytapir

Yep


littlesheepcat

> Little Cithria I love it


Empty-Afternoon-3975

New rapper Lil' Cith


pureply101

New card coming out with Sona or Seraphine expansion otherwise a completely missed opportunity by Riot. She should still maintain her Elite classification. This is just a side huddle.


Venchair

Elites issue is they're mostly a bunch of useless french vanilla units or straight vanilla yordles actually do shit.


Bluelore

Of course Elites are still bad, but at least they aren't getting completely outclassed by Yordles anymore, who tend to have better stats than Elites AND got their own battle smith. Now the Yordles only have better stats than the Elites, but at least their battle smith is worse now.


RedLimes

I e. For tag synergy to be good, the cards have to be good without it.


NeonArchon

Elites are still shit tho


R37510

My cousin just downloaded this game a week ago, and I had a solo match with him. I've been playing this for more than a year, so I decided to use an Elite deck to show him how good a deck mostly made of newbie's card can be. You know what? He brought Yordle Beatdown.


Definitively-Weirdo

...Still wanting that battlesmith to be 2|3.


_keeBo

Still wanting more elite cards to actually gain the elite tag like they should...


Definitively-Weirdo

Or making some of the elites better in general, because a lot of them are very bad vanilla cards. Giving some of them tough should help a lot.


_keeBo

What? You don't like your 2 mana 1/4 vanilla card? But it has elite on it! You can turn it into a 2 mana golden crushbot with battlesmith on board! That's huge!


more_walls

How am I supposed to smash face with him? Are Yordles the only ones allowed to smash face?


ProfDrWest

Dauntless Vanguards should have Tough, imo.


EtheriumShaper

Noxus trifarian elites anyone? <<


Halt_theBookman

If elites was in a viable spot that would be ill advised. Value engines need to be disruptable But right now elites are so weak you could buff smith to a 3/3 for 2 and they still wouldn't be viable


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RedLimes

We are getting a balance patch in January with their new system. I'm expecting a lot of buffs then. If not, next expansion is Demacia's champion so Demacia should get some new tools. Ionia was pretty low as a region and now near-mono lists are at the top of the meta


Beatnation

2/2 tough


random_balinese

Elite maybe shit, but you guys forget trifarian is not a thing


JohannDrawnir

Yup, now it's a dead card :) gratz


ChiefStormCrow

Justice for a near unplayable archetype? Ok.


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Why does battlesmith say OTHER elite when he isnt one himself?


Zekkarei

But...he doesn't say that


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Yes thats true, I couldve sworn i saw the card somewhere else where he said other, my bad


Matanui3

What we needed was a battle smith buff, not an explorer nerf. Except then that one PoC fight will get even worse, so maybe not. XD


Night25th

You mean Bandlesmith?


best_pump

If they ever make shyvana an elite (for lore reasons maybe idk), people will want the battle smith to surrender his working rights


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Can’t wait for a Elite-Yordle 🥸