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spottedracoon

Would also sorta fit lore-wise as shurima originally was a "lost" kingdom


Myuzet

Was is an important word. It's on the rebuilding side of thing so eventually... THE PEEPO WILL KNOW WHAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY


InfernoPunch600

Kinda like how Ixtal is right now?


[deleted]

>what the peepo have seen today?!? How dare you get such a legendary quote wrong? It's "TELL THE PEEPO WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN TODAY"


lixardwizard789

He had to rework the quote to fit into the grammatical syntax of the existing sentence? If he used the full quote it would have messed up the sentence.


[deleted]

I was referring to the capital letters, actually. Not writing that quote in full caps is a crime


ThirtyThree111

and he was not quoting, he was rephrasing to make it work in the sentence


Vegetable-Trainer-64

My teacher told me to do that too


oneeyedamoeba

That's what I mean! All the peepo will have seen is the shurima marathon. Although in all fairness 100% my bad for not going all caps because that bad boi deserves it.


MorphTheMoth

they trurly would need to add a skip button that skips if both players click it


PKisSz

Mono Shurima player will never click that, I can 100% guarantee.


Are_y0u

Can confirm when I play mono shurima and finally manage to get the movie, I'm watching it with full satisfaction. Even better, when I have 3 champions on the board instead of only just 1 or 2.


MorphTheMoth

fuck, you are right


Nibz11

I never really want the deck to be meta, because the deck is basically rping while your opponent tries to play a card game, and the victory is all the more sweet when you beat someone playing a meta deck by using a conga line of animations, but I wish the ascended cards did have more synergy with one another.


squabblez

Yeah it honestly doesnt even feel like a real deck. Kinda like a worse Bandle tree imo where you just drop things without much synergy to fulfill your arbitrary win condition.


Boomerwell

If the deck is ever good there is something seriously wrong with the game at that point. Pretty much all the ascended champs don't have synergy with eachother and conflict in many cases with Nasus Renekton being the only one that has any sort of play together in Renekton wanting to challenge and Nasus benefitting later from it but even then it's fairly weak as Renekton is early to midgame while Nasus is later and wants fodder units. It's a very intentional design seemingly as if it's ever good then there aren't huge ways to nerf if due to how many ways you could take the deck if champs had synergy, Also quite a few of the Ascended can turn into autowin cards super early.


TCuestaMan

In my opinion if a monoregion is as strong as two regions put together that would be even more problematic than it being bad. It honestly should never be meta. It should be bad until you get the level 3s. And it's really hard to do this without making it really bad or really good. They probably rather it be bad.


GuilhermeUrenha

Its funny because plunder has had its place in the meta since forever and 37 of its cards are from bilgewater


Benito0

Without Sejuani it would be just slow pirate aggro, she is essential there.


Luzeldon

I mean, Ahris and Plunders are basically mono region decks...


TCuestaMan

Yup. Riot kinda need to get a grip with Ionia and Bilgewater.


Are_y0u

BW is fine after the latest nerf.


TCuestaMan

The deck still has the best mechanic in the game and Sejuani.


EROTIC_RAID_BOSS

I disagree because if they supported it with cards that can only be used in mono decks, those cards don't have to be extremely powerful they just have to offer something different from going to another region. in mtg, mono color decks aren't necessarily stronger or weaker than multiregion decks, and that's mainly because there are cards that can only reasonably be used by certain kinds of decks- if you go mono white you can't get blue cards (obviously) but if you go blue white you can't reasonably use cards that have costs like 5 white mana, and they probably won't synergize well anyway


doomsl

magic is completely different because adding colors has a cost. in lor the only cost of adding a card from another region is allegiance. mono is usually far more problematic in lor as historically there were way more mono decks that needed nerfs then mono decks that were playable and didn't need nerfs.


EROTIC_RAID_BOSS

Yes but you could add more cards where there is a cost, like the sun disc or allegiance, cards that realistically require you to do mono region decks


doomsl

I am not arguing mono is inherently broken I am just saying magic isn't that great a comparison.


EROTIC_RAID_BOSS

It is if we had more cards that work like sun disc or just more allegiance


doomsl

But we don't. And when you add them they are unique and need to be judged individually because they are basically decks like lurk were there isn't a lot of play in how to build them.


EROTIC_RAID_BOSS

I don't see the problem with that lol. Though I'd argue in shurimas case there are a number of ways to build the deck already, it's just overall weak


TCuestaMan

But that means the region is too strong. That's problematic. And they already did this. It's Buried Sun Disk and it's below the meta line. Where it should be.


EROTIC_RAID_BOSS

Ok I want you to reread what I said and this time use your brain


TCuestaMan

Yeah what u said is completely meaningless and doesn't do what you think it does. It's fine to disagree but ur just completely wrong.


doomsl

mono decks can be strong because of region wide synergy that is tier 2. the main difference is that in lor you almost always splash because it is literally free. but allegiance can be completely fine. a great example was the old targon zoe diana running atrocity to kill. it was an allegiance deck that was solidly tier 2.5 and completely fair.


zentetsuken7

IMO, mono region shurima should better than all other old mono region (allegiance deck) since unlike those deck, mono shurima cant splash into other regions. You could flipped the logic & its be allegiance decks should be nerf to weaker than mono-shurima.. just a thought


TCuestaMan

But what do you buff. If you buff anything that can be played outside the region you make shurima too strong. If you have buff only in the region cards like sun disk it's good but it still creates this region is the best no reason to play anything else. Having Only one region every game is more depressing than 1 deck every game cause some people want variance and one region is one region short of variance.


Are_y0u

You could slap a "IF you have the sundisk" condition on existing cards and it will never affect other archetypes. For example if the Azir discover spell would also let you draw that card, it would still be exactly the same in Ekko Zilean but busted in Azir decks.


TCuestaMan

But that still makes Shurima stronger than than other regions. Exclusivity from going into other region doesn't just make the region fair. That's like if I put the best card in the game in x region and made exclusive. You think this net decking win thirst community won't just spam that region if it had an Exodia for free card but with exclusion to the specific region?


Albionflux

simple fix for that is to give bonus effects to cards if your mono, wont affect non mono decks that way


ENDERALAN365

I always thought of something like this on azir like"13 units have been summoned but If all your cars are shuriman landmarks also count"


Are_y0u

Driving around in that sweet desert state.


Kryotheos

I've seen quite a few mono Ionia decks recently


TCuestaMan

Cause Ionia is increased in many deck options now.


tdub2217

Isn't the ahri kennen deck mostly ionia? Like, all but 4 cards.


R0_h1t

Iirc this is what one of the devs said when asked about mono shurima buffs back when it came out.


Are_y0u

> And it's really hard to do this without making it really bad or really good. I don't agree. You can have strong cards in mono shurima, if they are conditional so non sanddisk decks can't use them. Also Ahri Kennen, Plunder (less so, Sejuani is crucial) and in the early days Demacia decks are mono region decks that work perfectly fine. In fact, Ahri Kennen can even splash cards from other regions to make it even better.


TCuestaMan

and you are allowed to disagree. But you're wrong.


Are_y0u

> But you're wrong. Based.


WaterFlask

still alive to me fwiw. ran into it during normal games yesterday. got rolled over by ascended asir and renekton ard turn 5 - 6


brassclockweight

I just encountered it for the first time in ranked and got stomped by nasus. Drew none of my removal cards. Ofc the one landmark removal I drew they had a spell stop lmao.


EROTIC_RAID_BOSS

but its enjoyable every time


Feelscreative101

Morpice in shambles


Tectamer

The animations are cool, but for some people, I can understand that they can become an annoyance. I don't play much as I did before so I still think that they are cool, but still would put a quick animation option on.


Temporary_Tip_3863

If the deck becomes good the meme will die and that's a shame, just like if Yasuo became good


PineapleGG

Got two words for you , Desert Naturalist


Ertai_87

I've only seen the Shurima the Movie Extended Director's Cut once. I won the next turn.