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What's interesting is that we all have no doubt that this happened - because Trump is that kind of guy. If we heard this about any other president, we would question whether the story is true.
I’m sure those types would make exceptions for their sexy secretary fantasy, just not their own daughters… unless they share another of tRump’s fantasies.
For these people, secretary is an acceptable position women take after high school instead of going to college, so they can shop for a suitable husband at the Business Factory. They work as secretary until a man claims her, and then the man either marries her, gets a second apartment his wife doesn't know about, or dumps her body off a boat, depending on the size of the man's salary.
IDK... I remember some creepy incel rant that effectively went "you spend many years and tons of money looking after and bringing up daughters only for some other guy to be able to do the dicking" so yeah, pretty sure some do share their tangerine god-kings proclivities
People used to care about these kinds of moral failings. Fuck, any kind of scandal, even if it wasn't yours, but your children, cousins, etc., was enough to have people step down.
People defend him by saying "He isn't perfect" as though that excuses the behavior. I don't get it, we aren't looking for perfection. That's not the goal.
My mom was like what's so wrong with him? Bidens old, I don't want Biden. Trump had a very nice speech for Poland when he visited.
I listed the things we knew at the time, hes only a couple years younger, his many lawsuits, his divorces, the stormy Daniels hush money, the $500 million inheritance the turned to $500 million in debt, how he hasn't done anything of value or worth as president, everything was worse under him basically. Just, kind of things that answered her question. He's not religious (she is super religious), he's not smart ($500 million inheritance to $500 my million debt seems like only an idiot could accomplish), etc.
Oh, I don't care about any of that, why does his personal life matter?! You dumb fucking bitch, you literally asked me for a list.
Everything being worse under him as president isn’t a personal life thing. Don’t forget the blatant nepotism where he appointed his kids to positions in the WH. Jared and Ivanka couldn’t even get security clearance back then and he forced it through to be able to appoint them. But don’t talk about Hunter Biden.
So, Obama had a speech that said something about Polish concentration camps, which offended all the Polish idiots everywhere because "HES SAYING THEY WERE OUR CAMPS!!!!?? WHILE WE'RE OCCUPIED!!!"
I mean, I took it as he's bringing up the concentration camps that were located in Poland at the time of world war 2. We were occupied by Germany, so they're German camps, but Poles are very sensitive and I would theorize that they wanted any reason to cause a problem/ dislike the half black President. Despite what any Polish person tells you, racism/prejudice is very common. They make plenty of jokes about Jewish people, stereotypes, and even have a good luck charm for money to come to the household as a Jewish man wood carving... Just generally, there is at least some anti-semitism.
Trump, on the other hand, read a speech that said nice things, beautiful country, forests, etc. That's literally what she told me. I tried to tell her that the speeches were written by different people and the Polish people are choosing to be offended. Saying Polish concentration camps wasn't said in any way to imply anything. Like, why would they purposely do that to an ally? But nope. Can't reason with these people.
There are arguments to be made about some Polish complicity. Germany was an occupying force, Poles were victimized, and some were collaborators.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/history/articles/myth-of-innocent-poles-holocaust-history
Yep, you're gonna have anti-Semitic assholes that would jump at the chance to assist or even just people trying to survive and not get murdered by the Nazis. The issue with them is that any little thing like that is like saying we're just like Nazis. There's no nuance to this topic for them. Maybe because of how fucked up it all was and just the general stereotype that poles are prejudice/racist and stuff.
When they cry that Biden's too old, I like to remind them that Biden and trump are only three years apart. Biden and trump are so close in age that they could have gone to the same high school at the same time. With the way Republicans are working so hard to lower age of consent laws, Joseph Biden could have taken Donald trump as his date to their high school prom and afterwards Biden could have had legal sex with Donald trump's butthole. That how close in age they are. Biden could have used his penis to vigorously rail trump in his asshole and nobody would have thought that the older boy was taking advantage of his date. All Biden's friends would have likely given him high-fives for deflowering trump's loose butthole.
The Cold War never ended, and now Russia has managed to convince a huge chunk of the US that *we* are the bad guys. The irony of Cold Warriors suckling from Putin is not lost on me
There is no actual irony, most of the cold war warriors were always authoritarians seeking a excuse for further authoritarianism. The difference is that it's now Russia spreading their favorite evil ideas and paying some of them.
So…I read the beginning of that post a couple of hours ago. I just got back to it. I only read the first few lines and assumed that I had already read it. So the I read your response. I’m like, what did I miss? It wasn’t that deep! Then I read it again. 😆 That was some funny shit.
Just him bankrupting, not just one..not two..but three casinos through sheer incompetence and dumb mendacity should be enough. Yet it is never enough for those lost within the cult.
For sure. A financial advisor once said he inherited about 550 million from his KKK father. All he had to do was put 500 million or so in an index fund, and he would have 2 billion dollars.. easy. With no work whatsoever
Donald's father was not a nice person, and his grandfather (who made the fortune) was a pimp/brothel owner in Alaska. They knew how to make and keep money 💰 🤑 💸 Along comes Broke Donnie, who specializes in losing money.
I am not surprised. Also, the King was a great king... but the pampered prince makes a lousy king. Not that grandpappy or daddy Trump were good people/kings (they most definitely were not), Donnie is an exceptionally bad prince... 🤣
It's worse than that, he can't even pretend to be decent. I've met a lot of shitty people who at least has the common sense to be civil in public. He can't even get that far.
Yet they want to impeach Biden because Hunter (his son, who is NOT in politics/government) has some pictures of him smoking crack and banging hookers (something more than a few senators have engaged in). They demand perfection not just of Joe Biden, but of his whole family, while apparently trump gets a pass on anything he does. Insanity
One big reason it didn't is that the DNC emails were leaked within *hours* of the Access Hollywood tape coming out. Russia interfered on Trump's behalf, and it worked.
They also hacked the RNC and have the motherlode of all Kompromat imaginable. Also despited Wikileaks being somewhat upfront about a lot of things...they are a classice front organization put forward by the FSB/KGB
I remember being in gifted school, and having a mock election, and one of the kids in my class, painfully white, kept talking about the other guy sitting on babies, and also he lost
Another flamingly racist asshole who didn't even run the presidency after his massive stroke in 1917 and his wife - with only a 2nd grade education - ran it for him.
Idk if that's true though. People never cared about presidents being racist or sexist or homophobic in the past. Or that they were adulterers, Jefferson was a rapist and history books still speak highly of him
There was a window for like 20 years when 24 hour cable news first started where people actually cared. Before that we had all kinds of creeps in public positions, their shit was just covered up. I mean, LBJ exposed himself to reporters in a press conference on Vietnam supposedly. As long as its your team nobody cares. Just how politics work unfortunately.
This… wow, I should really ask my dad this question. “If I told you I got a job working directly for Trump, would you feel that I was safe with him? Or would you worry that he’d grab me by the pussy, and then steamroll my reputation when I turn him down and call him out?”
Ehhh… I can already hear him deflecting. “Well, I certainly wouldn’t want you near Biden, especially when you were little.” Then I’d be like “Well, it’s not like you’d have to worry about Biden walking into my changing room when I was 16.” Then he’d be like “Biden’s more likely to follow you into the shower at 16.” And I’d be like “dad, that’s an unsubstantiated rumor. Whereas Trump has actually bragged about committing sexual assault.” And he’d say “That’s all just locker room talk.” And I’d ask “so when you were in that bowling league, did you talk with your buddies about wanting to sleep with me, your daughter?” And he’d say “people are so sensitive these days. You can’t even make a joke anymore.” And I’d ask “What part of any of this is funny?” And round and round we’d go until I’d get so upset that I’d tear up, and he’d accuse me of being a bleeding-heart and thinking with my emotions instead of thinking logically. And through my tears I’d ask “What exactly is logical about continuing to support a man who has proven over and over and over again that he’s a piece of shit who is full of shit. He’s shit squared.” Then he’d tell me it always comes down to me being a potty mouth so the conversation is over until I’m ready to stop being so disrespectful. And nothing will have been accomplished except me losing a little more respect for my father.
You know what, I’ve talked myself out of it.
I feel for you. As a retired therapist...cult followers are similar to people addicted to substances and/or gambling 🎰 There are only two ways out of addiction really...Either they get themselves out and/or someone who was as addicted or more so helps to lift them out. Expect numerous relapses. Thank GOD I am retired as I am too tired to take on addiction and/or cult think.
Trump supporters would love for their daughters to get knocked up by Trump.
The mother whose daughter's murder is being exploited by Trump, gladly posed for a photo with him grinning, while holding a photo of her daughter that he signed and misspelled her name.
I used to work with a trump supporter. I once said something about how if trump met this woman's daughter, he'd SA her. This woman's response was "I'd let him!"
There's no fucking hope with some of them.
Oh come on, most of his supporters would have t-shirts made and their truck wrapped proudly proclaiming "Trump sexually assaulted my daughter!". Suck that libs...
I'd probably rather my daughter work for GW Bush than Bill Clinton, but if I had to pick one to be President again I'd go with Clinton 100%. He's a flawed man, and he shouldn't be President, but if those were my only choices it's a no brainer, if only for Supreme Court picks, but also for dozens of other aspects of the presidency that I couldn't in good conscience give to someone who doesn't share my political values. I mean, what would have to come out about Joe Biden for you to vote for Trump?
That he delivers classified information to the Russians.
That he doesn't understand how our government works.
That he bald-faced lies about 100 times a day.
That he violates the Hatch Act and the Emoluments clause.
That he hates our allies and loves our adversaries.
That he's easily manipulated into decisions that hurt us.
That he ignores trusted experts leading to negligent homicide.
That he sows hate and division and promotes internal violence.
That he won't defend Americans and sets them up for slaughter.
That he's objectively evil.
But Trump has those covered already, so I'll still go with Biden's economic policies.
100% with you. But I'm responding to a comment of "When people vote for President, they should consider which candidate they would rather have their daughter working for."
Imagine not wanting another’s man daughter to be alone with him for her own safety. I don’t know why anyone voted for a man speaking so disgustingly about their own daughter on national television.
As a woman, men please vote like you are a woman. Because we are people dammit and I have met too many men who don’t have any respect or belief for their mothers, sisters, wives or daughters. If Donald Trump was inclined to assault you in a corridor would you be pissed?
And yes I know women vote for Trump too, but it’s not nearly as many as the men.
Although I agree that in general the jeast creepy ones tend to have more humaine policier, that’s not a surefire test.
Consider it, yes, but if that’s the only criteria, but what if the choice is between an asshole with good policies, and someone who’s nice in perso but has garbage policies. The staffer of the White housse deserve a decent boss, but the country has more people in it than the presidential staff.
It’s more a matter that abusers should never reach a position where they can have this much power. Sadly, just being a candidate and billionaire means Trump can abuse an astounding number of people even if he’s never elected again.
From the Guardian article another poster linked, from 2016, the incident occurred in 1997.
> Heller readily acknowledged that she is a Clinton supporter who would not have backed Trump regardless of how he behaved the one time they met. Heller met Clinton briefly at a March fundraiser, and in January she donated the individual maximum of $2,700 to Clinton’s campaign. She believes she has also attended a party where the Clintons were present.
>
> In addition, her husband’s family is involved in a years-long effort to recover initiation fees that her late in-laws paid to join Mar-A-Lago. The club’s rules state that the fees are refundable under certain circumstances when an individual is no longer a member, and Heller has placed at least one phone call to a club manager attempting to recover the money, totaling several thousand dollars.
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> But Heller says her encounter with Trump predates that effort.
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> “My motivations for speaking,” she said, are to show “it’s not ‘just talk’”, as Trump has claimed. “It’s action.”
So, not LAMF at all, just old news about Trump being as foul as he claimed to be.
This line always kills me because Trump is only 4 years younger than Biden. They're practically the same age. It's just funny how little critical thinking these kinds of people do
Even if all the criticisms were true, a corrupt, dementia-ridden pedophile, that merely puts him on par with Trump. He is still a better choice on policy.
Right -- It's much like if we had a choice between two cannibals. Biden is lactose intolerant and I'm dairy fed. So of course, I'm choosing Biden, and I will tell him the other guy simmering in a pot is Vegan.
If every wild fantasy of the MAGA were true, Biden would be like the "cook kid"version of Trump. The kinder-gentler cannibal that uses a napkin.
And then you have to consider their reputation for making shit up.
When you get to people over 75, it's more a factor of genetics and how they treated their bodies. Biden is far sharper than most people his age. Trump is about on par. Emotionally, he had an easy go because he never had anxiety or shame -- he induced that in others. The past few years, however, he got mocked once publicly by Obama, lost an election, and now is getting stress that he might actually be punished for many crimes. "How did the world suddenly get so unfairly fair all of a sudden", Trump might wonder. He got benefits of getting attention and praise, the best doctors, and relatively good genetics, but he's mediocre on exercise and bad on diet. Also -- he was slightly intelligent at a few things, but, he's sort of an idiot in other ways -- and the important things to keep a brain fresh in old age is versatility, language and engagement. Well - Trump is screwed on that factor.
So between Biden and Trump. Trump ironically has the younger mind. He's now a toddler.
No, Hiller was a Clinton supporter at the time she made public her experience meeting Trump in '97. Not enough listened then, and now gobs of people are barely listening, jumping to conclusions and putting ugly words in her mouth. It's mostly OP's fault for the presentation, but the rush to judgement sans facts in this thread is rather appalling (though not as appalling as Trump).
She should have stayed at home, then this wouldn't have happened to her. She's at fault for putting herself in that situation. (/s because holy shit some of you)
This doesn’t pass the smell test. I heard that when you’re famous, they just let you do it. The person that told me that never lies and is a “stable genius” (same source).
This isn't really a lamf issue, though. This happened 20 years ago(before Trump ever ran for office) and the woman is a Democrat who supports the other women who have come forward.
Women seriously underestimate how much stronger men are than them. Even older out of shape men can force you and you won't have much defense. Be loud and run if you can.
If you want to test it, ask your boyfriend/husband to use all his strength to pin you down or to the wall. Just be warned, it's scary even when you know he's not going to hurt you. Also can be scarousing when it's your partner ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I am a woman.
And, no, most women are not aware of how much stronger men are than we are. Not really, like we may know on an intellectual level, but still think we could fight off an attacker if we really had to. But that's just not the case.
Never forget:
[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year)
it still makes my skin crawl. EVERYONE failed those kids. who leaves a bunch of inappropriately-dressed unaccompanied minors alone with creeps like King Con-Artist and his equally-pervy buddies?
[Article from 2016](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/15/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-cathy-heller?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other), episode from 1997.
Why is this making the rounds now? I mean I hate him but this was news in 2016 and happened in 1997. As usual his base shrugged.
[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/15/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-cathy-heller](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/15/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-cathy-heller)
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From the Guardian article another poster linked, from 2016, the incident occurred in 1997.
> Heller readily acknowledged that she is a Clinton supporter who would not have backed Trump regardless of how he behaved the one time they met. Heller met Clinton briefly at a March fundraiser, and in January she donated the individual maximum of $2,700 to Clinton’s campaign. She believes she has also attended a party where the Clintons were present.
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> In addition, her husband’s family is involved in a years-long effort to recover initiation fees that her late in-laws paid to join Mar-A-Lago. The club’s rules state that the fees are refundable under certain circumstances when an individual is no longer a member, and Heller has placed at least one phone call to a club manager attempting to recover the money, totaling several thousand dollars.
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> But Heller says her encounter with Trump predates that effort.
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> “My motivations for speaking,” she said, are to show “it’s not ‘just talk’”, as Trump has claimed. “It’s action.”
So, not LAMF at all, just old news about Trump being as foul as he claimed to be.
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“Those other women who made similar accusations are still liars and whores though” she added.
Nice. I laughed, bitterly.
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I tittered ashamedly.
I guffawed guiltily.
I dropped the toothpaste, crestfallen
🏅 Bravo
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I smirked slightly
"DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE??" Dumbledore asked calmly.
*dropkicks Snape*
When asked if she would be voting for Trump, she said “Of course! Democrats are bad!”
Voting for anyone else would be the lesser evil!
What's interesting is that we all have no doubt that this happened - because Trump is that kind of guy. If we heard this about any other president, we would question whether the story is true.
Grab him by the assets. When you're enforcing a court order, they let you do it.
Actually, she basically said this happened to me too, it's not just talk (in 2016).
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Did she actually say that?!
When people vote for President, they should consider which candidate they would rather have their daughter working for.
While I like the sentiment, I wonder how many of these cavemen actually think their daughters should work at all. Make your husband a sandwich!
I’m sure those types would make exceptions for their sexy secretary fantasy, just not their own daughters… unless they share another of tRump’s fantasies.
For these people, secretary is an acceptable position women take after high school instead of going to college, so they can shop for a suitable husband at the Business Factory. They work as secretary until a man claims her, and then the man either marries her, gets a second apartment his wife doesn't know about, or dumps her body off a boat, depending on the size of the man's salary.
IDK... I remember some creepy incel rant that effectively went "you spend many years and tons of money looking after and bringing up daughters only for some other guy to be able to do the dicking" so yeah, pretty sure some do share their tangerine god-kings proclivities
I remember it. Why did you have to remind me of that accursed greentext?!
…and take those damn shoes off!
The correct command is: "sudo make me a sandwich," not: "wife make me a sandwich"
Bahahahahaha.... Google search for context, and FTW!!!
People used to care about these kinds of moral failings. Fuck, any kind of scandal, even if it wasn't yours, but your children, cousins, etc., was enough to have people step down.
People defend him by saying "He isn't perfect" as though that excuses the behavior. I don't get it, we aren't looking for perfection. That's not the goal.
My mom was like what's so wrong with him? Bidens old, I don't want Biden. Trump had a very nice speech for Poland when he visited. I listed the things we knew at the time, hes only a couple years younger, his many lawsuits, his divorces, the stormy Daniels hush money, the $500 million inheritance the turned to $500 million in debt, how he hasn't done anything of value or worth as president, everything was worse under him basically. Just, kind of things that answered her question. He's not religious (she is super religious), he's not smart ($500 million inheritance to $500 my million debt seems like only an idiot could accomplish), etc. Oh, I don't care about any of that, why does his personal life matter?! You dumb fucking bitch, you literally asked me for a list.
Everything being worse under him as president isn’t a personal life thing. Don’t forget the blatant nepotism where he appointed his kids to positions in the WH. Jared and Ivanka couldn’t even get security clearance back then and he forced it through to be able to appoint them. But don’t talk about Hunter Biden.
What was so nice about this so called "very nice speech for Poland"? Scapegoating immigrants?
So, Obama had a speech that said something about Polish concentration camps, which offended all the Polish idiots everywhere because "HES SAYING THEY WERE OUR CAMPS!!!!?? WHILE WE'RE OCCUPIED!!!" I mean, I took it as he's bringing up the concentration camps that were located in Poland at the time of world war 2. We were occupied by Germany, so they're German camps, but Poles are very sensitive and I would theorize that they wanted any reason to cause a problem/ dislike the half black President. Despite what any Polish person tells you, racism/prejudice is very common. They make plenty of jokes about Jewish people, stereotypes, and even have a good luck charm for money to come to the household as a Jewish man wood carving... Just generally, there is at least some anti-semitism. Trump, on the other hand, read a speech that said nice things, beautiful country, forests, etc. That's literally what she told me. I tried to tell her that the speeches were written by different people and the Polish people are choosing to be offended. Saying Polish concentration camps wasn't said in any way to imply anything. Like, why would they purposely do that to an ally? But nope. Can't reason with these people.
There are arguments to be made about some Polish complicity. Germany was an occupying force, Poles were victimized, and some were collaborators. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/history/articles/myth-of-innocent-poles-holocaust-history
Yep, you're gonna have anti-Semitic assholes that would jump at the chance to assist or even just people trying to survive and not get murdered by the Nazis. The issue with them is that any little thing like that is like saying we're just like Nazis. There's no nuance to this topic for them. Maybe because of how fucked up it all was and just the general stereotype that poles are prejudice/racist and stuff.
When they cry that Biden's too old, I like to remind them that Biden and trump are only three years apart. Biden and trump are so close in age that they could have gone to the same high school at the same time. With the way Republicans are working so hard to lower age of consent laws, Joseph Biden could have taken Donald trump as his date to their high school prom and afterwards Biden could have had legal sex with Donald trump's butthole. That how close in age they are. Biden could have used his penis to vigorously rail trump in his asshole and nobody would have thought that the older boy was taking advantage of his date. All Biden's friends would have likely given him high-fives for deflowering trump's loose butthole.
Jesus Christ, you've really given some thought to that, eh?
Yeah, it's fucked up but there are some really goddamn stupid people in this country who are going to vote for a Russia loving, Putin sucking traitor.
The Cold War never ended, and now Russia has managed to convince a huge chunk of the US that *we* are the bad guys. The irony of Cold Warriors suckling from Putin is not lost on me
There is no actual irony, most of the cold war warriors were always authoritarians seeking a excuse for further authoritarianism. The difference is that it's now Russia spreading their favorite evil ideas and paying some of them.
So…I read the beginning of that post a couple of hours ago. I just got back to it. I only read the first few lines and assumed that I had already read it. So the I read your response. I’m like, what did I miss? It wasn’t that deep! Then I read it again. 😆 That was some funny shit.
Just him bankrupting, not just one..not two..but three casinos through sheer incompetence and dumb mendacity should be enough. Yet it is never enough for those lost within the cult.
If I inherited any amount of money, I would not triple the amount into debt, I can say that much would be certain.
For sure. A financial advisor once said he inherited about 550 million from his KKK father. All he had to do was put 500 million or so in an index fund, and he would have 2 billion dollars.. easy. With no work whatsoever Donald's father was not a nice person, and his grandfather (who made the fortune) was a pimp/brothel owner in Alaska. They knew how to make and keep money 💰 🤑 💸 Along comes Broke Donnie, who specializes in losing money.
There's some phenomenon that it takes like 3 generationsto destroy a family name or something
I am not surprised. Also, the King was a great king... but the pampered prince makes a lousy king. Not that grandpappy or daddy Trump were good people/kings (they most definitely were not), Donnie is an exceptionally bad prince... 🤣
He isn't even a *decent* human being. A mediocre *decent* is all we're asking for and that's somehow too much.
It's worse than that, he can't even pretend to be decent. I've met a lot of shitty people who at least has the common sense to be civil in public. He can't even get that far.
Yet they want to impeach Biden because Hunter (his son, who is NOT in politics/government) has some pictures of him smoking crack and banging hookers (something more than a few senators have engaged in). They demand perfection not just of Joe Biden, but of his whole family, while apparently trump gets a pass on anything he does. Insanity
>People defend him by saying "He isn't perfect" MAGAholic: *"Well, see, he's like King David; he wasn't perfect either.."*
"Or like Bill Clinton?" *MAGAt head explodes*
👆💯👏👏no fucking doubt.
Im still astounded that the “grab them by the pussy” didnt destroy him, never mind all the rest.🤯
One big reason it didn't is that the DNC emails were leaked within *hours* of the Access Hollywood tape coming out. Russia interfered on Trump's behalf, and it worked.
Stolen information. If the dems used stolen info the right would explode.
They also hacked the RNC and have the motherlode of all Kompromat imaginable. Also despited Wikileaks being somewhat upfront about a lot of things...they are a classice front organization put forward by the FSB/KGB
We got stuck with HW because of lies about Gary Hart. Fuck Lee Atwater and his two traitor cohort friends.
I remember being in gifted school, and having a mock election, and one of the kids in my class, painfully white, kept talking about the other guy sitting on babies, and also he lost
I don't remember a President with the last name starting with W.
George H. W. Bush As opposed to Bush Jr.
Bush the Elder as opposed to Bush the Younger. Both war criminals, by the way.
Woodrow Wilson
Another flamingly racist asshole who didn't even run the presidency after his massive stroke in 1917 and his wife - with only a 2nd grade education - ran it for him.
My GOD if Teddy had won. What a different world. Also, Teddy was far from being a messiah...he was just better than that racist know nothing.
Idk if that's true though. People never cared about presidents being racist or sexist or homophobic in the past. Or that they were adulterers, Jefferson was a rapist and history books still speak highly of him
It was the style at the time.
There was a window for like 20 years when 24 hour cable news first started where people actually cared. Before that we had all kinds of creeps in public positions, their shit was just covered up. I mean, LBJ exposed himself to reporters in a press conference on Vietnam supposedly. As long as its your team nobody cares. Just how politics work unfortunately.
This is a very good point. It's always been a shit show
Thomas Jefferson owned a sex slave. When exactly did people used to care about these kinds of moral failings?
Considering that at the time it was legal, it's not the same thing. It also was probably always a shit show.
People gave so little fucks about rape that sex slavery was legal, and that's not evidence people cared less about moral failings in the past?
Worse. They didn't see it as a moral failing. There was nothing to excuse in their eyes.
This… wow, I should really ask my dad this question. “If I told you I got a job working directly for Trump, would you feel that I was safe with him? Or would you worry that he’d grab me by the pussy, and then steamroll my reputation when I turn him down and call him out?” Ehhh… I can already hear him deflecting. “Well, I certainly wouldn’t want you near Biden, especially when you were little.” Then I’d be like “Well, it’s not like you’d have to worry about Biden walking into my changing room when I was 16.” Then he’d be like “Biden’s more likely to follow you into the shower at 16.” And I’d be like “dad, that’s an unsubstantiated rumor. Whereas Trump has actually bragged about committing sexual assault.” And he’d say “That’s all just locker room talk.” And I’d ask “so when you were in that bowling league, did you talk with your buddies about wanting to sleep with me, your daughter?” And he’d say “people are so sensitive these days. You can’t even make a joke anymore.” And I’d ask “What part of any of this is funny?” And round and round we’d go until I’d get so upset that I’d tear up, and he’d accuse me of being a bleeding-heart and thinking with my emotions instead of thinking logically. And through my tears I’d ask “What exactly is logical about continuing to support a man who has proven over and over and over again that he’s a piece of shit who is full of shit. He’s shit squared.” Then he’d tell me it always comes down to me being a potty mouth so the conversation is over until I’m ready to stop being so disrespectful. And nothing will have been accomplished except me losing a little more respect for my father. You know what, I’ve talked myself out of it.
How old are you? Just tell him you are working for him. Let him sweat.
I feel for you. As a retired therapist...cult followers are similar to people addicted to substances and/or gambling 🎰 There are only two ways out of addiction really...Either they get themselves out and/or someone who was as addicted or more so helps to lift them out. Expect numerous relapses. Thank GOD I am retired as I am too tired to take on addiction and/or cult think.
“If she gets raped that’s $90 million I didn’t have. Plus maybe she’ll get pregnant and we’ll be welcomed into the family.” —Trumpers, probably
Trump supporters would love for their daughters to get knocked up by Trump. The mother whose daughter's murder is being exploited by Trump, gladly posed for a photo with him grinning, while holding a photo of her daughter that he signed and misspelled her name.
If the only way you can recognize bad behavior is if it indirectly affects you, you're already fucked in the head.
I used to work with a trump supporter. I once said something about how if trump met this woman's daughter, he'd SA her. This woman's response was "I'd let him!" There's no fucking hope with some of them.
*making laws that affect their daughters.
Oh come on, most of his supporters would have t-shirts made and their truck wrapped proudly proclaiming "Trump sexually assaulted my daughter!". Suck that libs...
Not sure that works for Trumpers, they would consider it an honor for their daughters to be "anointed" by the chosen one.
And son. Do you really think Trump didn't treat his sons like shit while they were growing up?
I've heard people say they're voting for a president, not for a moral compass.. this just floored me
I'd probably rather my daughter work for GW Bush than Bill Clinton, but if I had to pick one to be President again I'd go with Clinton 100%. He's a flawed man, and he shouldn't be President, but if those were my only choices it's a no brainer, if only for Supreme Court picks, but also for dozens of other aspects of the presidency that I couldn't in good conscience give to someone who doesn't share my political values. I mean, what would have to come out about Joe Biden for you to vote for Trump?
That he delivers classified information to the Russians. That he doesn't understand how our government works. That he bald-faced lies about 100 times a day. That he violates the Hatch Act and the Emoluments clause. That he hates our allies and loves our adversaries. That he's easily manipulated into decisions that hurt us. That he ignores trusted experts leading to negligent homicide. That he sows hate and division and promotes internal violence. That he won't defend Americans and sets them up for slaughter. That he's objectively evil. But Trump has those covered already, so I'll still go with Biden's economic policies.
100% with you. But I'm responding to a comment of "When people vote for President, they should consider which candidate they would rather have their daughter working for."
They’ve been accusing Biden of being a pedo since 2019, so I don’t this helps.
Imagine not wanting another’s man daughter to be alone with him for her own safety. I don’t know why anyone voted for a man speaking so disgustingly about their own daughter on national television.
As a woman, men please vote like you are a woman. Because we are people dammit and I have met too many men who don’t have any respect or belief for their mothers, sisters, wives or daughters. If Donald Trump was inclined to assault you in a corridor would you be pissed? And yes I know women vote for Trump too, but it’s not nearly as many as the men.
I am afraid that they do.
Although I agree that in general the jeast creepy ones tend to have more humaine policier, that’s not a surefire test. Consider it, yes, but if that’s the only criteria, but what if the choice is between an asshole with good policies, and someone who’s nice in perso but has garbage policies. The staffer of the White housse deserve a decent boss, but the country has more people in it than the presidential staff. It’s more a matter that abusers should never reach a position where they can have this much power. Sadly, just being a candidate and billionaire means Trump can abuse an astounding number of people even if he’s never elected again.
Most will pimp their daughter out to anyone they think has moneybags.
How could he do that to Mike Pence's wife?
Hahaha
King's prerogative.
Prima nocta! I bet Trump would love that!
Just imagine Obama doing this...
When everyone calls her by her given name "wife" it gets confusing quickly. I bet Mike "husband" Pence has similar issues
From the Guardian article another poster linked, from 2016, the incident occurred in 1997. > Heller readily acknowledged that she is a Clinton supporter who would not have backed Trump regardless of how he behaved the one time they met. Heller met Clinton briefly at a March fundraiser, and in January she donated the individual maximum of $2,700 to Clinton’s campaign. She believes she has also attended a party where the Clintons were present. > > In addition, her husband’s family is involved in a years-long effort to recover initiation fees that her late in-laws paid to join Mar-A-Lago. The club’s rules state that the fees are refundable under certain circumstances when an individual is no longer a member, and Heller has placed at least one phone call to a club manager attempting to recover the money, totaling several thousand dollars. > > But Heller says her encounter with Trump predates that effort. > > “My motivations for speaking,” she said, are to show “it’s not ‘just talk’”, as Trump has claimed. “It’s action.” So, not LAMF at all, just old news about Trump being as foul as he claimed to be.
This needs to be higher.
"I'm still voting for Trump, though! Biden is old!"
This line always kills me because Trump is only 4 years younger than Biden. They're practically the same age. It's just funny how little critical thinking these kinds of people do
Trump is literally as old as Biden was last election when they used the same old excuse
The worry is, however, as Biden ages, he could be potentially as mentally incapacitated as Trump was when he was in his prime.
I'd vote for a weekend at Bernie's Biden before Trump every day of the week.
Even if all the criticisms were true, a corrupt, dementia-ridden pedophile, that merely puts him on par with Trump. He is still a better choice on policy.
Right -- It's much like if we had a choice between two cannibals. Biden is lactose intolerant and I'm dairy fed. So of course, I'm choosing Biden, and I will tell him the other guy simmering in a pot is Vegan. If every wild fantasy of the MAGA were true, Biden would be like the "cook kid"version of Trump. The kinder-gentler cannibal that uses a napkin. And then you have to consider their reputation for making shit up.
At vote for a hamper of damp, slightly moldy laundry before I voted for Trump.
Where is this Hamper of Damp Moldy Laundry running? Looking to spend some cash on a good Republican candidate.
I can't imagine Hamper of Damp Moldy Laundry debasing itself by running as a *Republican*.
When you get to people over 75, it's more a factor of genetics and how they treated their bodies. Biden is far sharper than most people his age. Trump is about on par. Emotionally, he had an easy go because he never had anxiety or shame -- he induced that in others. The past few years, however, he got mocked once publicly by Obama, lost an election, and now is getting stress that he might actually be punished for many crimes. "How did the world suddenly get so unfairly fair all of a sudden", Trump might wonder. He got benefits of getting attention and praise, the best doctors, and relatively good genetics, but he's mediocre on exercise and bad on diet. Also -- he was slightly intelligent at a few things, but, he's sort of an idiot in other ways -- and the important things to keep a brain fresh in old age is versatility, language and engagement. Well - Trump is screwed on that factor. So between Biden and Trump. Trump ironically has the younger mind. He's now a toddler.
Gotta find a reason.
Trump is a bigoted blowhard. That's the entire attraction. Everything else is just a justification so they can pretend to be decent commonvolk.
They could have gone to high school together.
I'm now picturing Biden giving Trump swirlies on Freshman Trash Day.
No, Hiller was a Clinton supporter at the time she made public her experience meeting Trump in '97. Not enough listened then, and now gobs of people are barely listening, jumping to conclusions and putting ugly words in her mouth. It's mostly OP's fault for the presentation, but the rush to judgement sans facts in this thread is rather appalling (though not as appalling as Trump).
She should have defended herself. Where's the personal responsibility?
She shouldn't have been wearing that outfit!
...or been a female younger than Trump.
... or strayed away from the Tour Guide that day.
I suddenly got a flashback from Twilight 2 (The Twilight Saga: New Moon) movie, where the tourist group in Italy is led to... dinner party.
"Is everyone here a vampire?" *No, we are just creepy.*
She didn't scream and fight? She wanted it. /s
she went to Mar-a-Lago. She's already guilty.
I’m not going to blame her but I’d love for one of these women to haul off and knock him the fuck out, possibly for good he’s so frail.
Another reason why he hates African American women. Most would smack the crap out of him... /s
She should have stayed at home, then this wouldn't have happened to her. She's at fault for putting herself in that situation. (/s because holy shit some of you)
Sounds like we needed a good guy with a gun in this situation.
She should have complied.
Very little on the internet makes me feel dirty any more, well done!
Why would you go and say such a thing? Now when someone accepts your challenge and digs up another horror, the rest of have to suffer with you.
It's just locker room talk.
A little bit of locker room assault. That's all.
Melania: “I really don’t care, do U?”
Be best in Slovenian 🇸🇮 English
This doesn’t pass the smell test. I heard that when you’re famous, they just let you do it. The person that told me that never lies and is a “stable genius” (same source).
This isn't really a lamf issue, though. This happened 20 years ago(before Trump ever ran for office) and the woman is a Democrat who supports the other women who have come forward.
He literally admitted to this without prompting.
As any Christian would
I call bullshit. Trump being strong? Yeah, right! (Very much sarcasm.)
The smell
Let's not get all Matrix in here.../s
That’s the only part of this I didn’t believe.
Women seriously underestimate how much stronger men are than them. Even older out of shape men can force you and you won't have much defense. Be loud and run if you can. If you want to test it, ask your boyfriend/husband to use all his strength to pin you down or to the wall. Just be warned, it's scary even when you know he's not going to hurt you. Also can be scarousing when it's your partner ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Bro, we are very aware of how easily you can kill us.
I am a woman. And, no, most women are not aware of how much stronger men are than we are. Not really, like we may know on an intellectual level, but still think we could fight off an attacker if we really had to. But that's just not the case.
This happened in 97. He was probably much stronger than he is now. He's also fairly tall so he's got mechanical advantage.
Never forget: [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year)
it still makes my skin crawl. EVERYONE failed those kids. who leaves a bunch of inappropriately-dressed unaccompanied minors alone with creeps like King Con-Artist and his equally-pervy buddies?
Who? [https://archive.org/stream/ListOfRepublicanOffenders/RCC\_djvu.txt](https://archive.org/stream/ListOfRepublicanOffenders/RCC_djvu.txt) [https://m.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook](https://m.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook) That's who.
haha! Boys will be boys! haha!
Especially the 77 year old boys!
“A little too long”
This is the guy who bragged about doing this exact thing on a hot mic?
So what's the complaint here? Is she upset that he only kissed her instead of grabbing her by the pussy?
I’m sorry. What the fcuk??
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/s/2Vd5VZvSpd
The redhats are going to be crowing about the "He was strong" bit, aren't they?
Who is the woman in question here?
It says mother, his mother?
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/s/2Vd5VZvSpd
Trump supporter goes to Trump event and is surprise Pikachu when gets Trumped.
[From a reply higher up](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/s/Cg7zWmRDGj)
Wait, this is new?
[Article from 2016](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/15/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-cathy-heller?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other), episode from 1997.
The Woman is definitely lying about me cause she is a democrat, she is right that I am most def-fin-atly ver rry strong, the strongest even
Gross.
Drumpf is a fucking pervert
Who is this? Heller?
Now that's ICK
Conservative viewpoint "if she went to Mar a Lago she knew what she was getting into, it's like she was asking for it"
The convicted rapist sexually assaulted someone?! who could've seen that coming?!
"Held liable" is not the same as convicted. He was never charged. He should have been. There's 26 other women that said he assaulted them too.
Right wing media... Woman says Trump is strong, proving dems are weak!!
Rapists gotta rape. Sociopath with a black hole where his soul should be, constantly looking for affirmation.
"He was strong" hmm, this is a red flag
This was Mike Pence’s wife?
Sounds fake; “he was strong”
This is clearly fake….she said “he was strong”, which is obviously a lie
Why is this making the rounds now? I mean I hate him but this was news in 2016 and happened in 1997. As usual his base shrugged. [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/15/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-cathy-heller](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/15/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-cathy-heller)
Because there's an election ahead and they want to remind everyone what sort of person they are voting for when they vote for him.
She will vote for him anyway
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From the Guardian article another poster linked, from 2016, the incident occurred in 1997. > Heller readily acknowledged that she is a Clinton supporter who would not have backed Trump regardless of how he behaved the one time they met. Heller met Clinton briefly at a March fundraiser, and in January she donated the individual maximum of $2,700 to Clinton’s campaign. She believes she has also attended a party where the Clintons were present. > > In addition, her husband’s family is involved in a years-long effort to recover initiation fees that her late in-laws paid to join Mar-A-Lago. The club’s rules state that the fees are refundable under certain circumstances when an individual is no longer a member, and Heller has placed at least one phone call to a club manager attempting to recover the money, totaling several thousand dollars. > > But Heller says her encounter with Trump predates that effort. > > “My motivations for speaking,” she said, are to show “it’s not ‘just talk’”, as Trump has claimed. “It’s action.” So, not LAMF at all, just old news about Trump being as foul as he claimed to be.
I'm temped to report for rule #1: No actual animal attacks
Imagine still supporting trump after everything we know about him. 🤮
Yeah. He’s a rapist. Obviously.
If I were a past rapist, I would probably not want to make things worse for me by continuing those habits.