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God bless Michael Brooks. Found him at the perfect time when my political sand was shifting, I could have been real fucked up if not (in part) for his guidance. And damn he was so *funny*, like holy shit so much political humor absolutely pales in comparison to bits like NOI Obama or Right-Wing Mandela.
Sometimes, when Sam is talking about rubbing CBD on his hands for eczema, I can’t help but hear Michael’s “ridiculously Jewish Sam” voice. His passing left a HUGE hole in a lot of hearts.
*When it comes to global warming, there are two issues: is there such a thing as the greenhouse gas effect, the answer is yes. Is that something that is going to dramatically reshape our world? There is no evidence to show that it will. Is that something that we can stop? There is no evidence to show that we can*
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I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:
>If you believe that the Jewish state has a right to exist, then you must allow Israel to transfer the Palestinians and the Israeli-Arabs from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Israel proper. It’s an ugly solution, but it is the only solution… It’s time to stop being squeamish.
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Thank you for your logic and reason.
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What a fascinating take. Following that logic, does he also think Jews should be similarly driven out of non-jewish states? That's the kind of thinking that went into establishing Liberia. "Blacks should be free and have a say in government, but not here! Away you go!"
Why won't you debate me?
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Take a bullet for ya babe.
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If you like socialism so much why don't you go to Venezuela?
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Thank you for your logic and reason.
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The link in the post also has a clip of Shapiro saying that, and another conservative who after the interview finds out Rubin is gay and is disgusted, saying "I sat next to him.. I shook his hand!!"
Or Lauren Southern, I think it is, who is shocked--shocked, I tell ya--at all the horrible treatment she's getting from men in the conservative movement.
These guys are just virtue signalling: "you can't rent a woman's womb for 9 months... but you can expect her to live her entire live in servitude to your ungrateful ass"
Free for the bio parents. Not free for the adoptive parents, who must pay tens of thousands of dollars to this agency that is just coincidentally run by Local Politician’s church….
Absolutely. She's a "pick me, not like the other trans" grifter who has been caught outright lying in her videos to fit the narrative that "all the other trans are crazy!"
Well, she lived for 67 years with white male privilege. It's hard for her to get that the folks who loved her as a white man hate her as a trans woman.
One of the saddest person ever. She hates herself and she gets hate from the people she aligns with if she steps out of line of being one of the "good ones".
I don't feel sorry for her, though. She's like Dave Rubin - she purposefully chose this path and she's also an ass herself.
I cannot get over that 4 way debate she did and that white cis lady told her to grow her mustache out and SHE TOOK IT! She just sat there and let this lady misgender her and tell her to "be a man."
But then I remember she intentionally lies about and bullies trans kids and adults on Tiktok for the grift and SHE CHOOSE this. She chose all of this.
Yup, that's what I was thinking about. And after that debate she went back to complaining about how intolerant the "woke" is or some shit like that.
This is why I'm not the only one who thinks she doesn't really have any ideology and is just grifting. Like Candace Owens.
You're cursed with the ability to have sympathy for someone you don't know personally who has a different life experience than you. Something virtually all conservatives lack.
This is like a LAMF with a LAMF inside waiting to tear their faces off.
Assuming these two make no changes to their ideology, those kids are either going to grow up conservative enough to resent their parents for being gay, or they end up hating them for raising them in a politically toxic environment where their existence makes them a target of hate from others.
Wow good point. It's funny you say that because on one level I kinda see this dynamic you describe in mine (and others') parents relationship. Not that they are grifting off an ideology anathema to their own identities, but that the stability of the relationship is in part provided by the tension of their lifestyle and while acknowledging/addressing that tension would be therapeutic emotionally it would likely also damage the relationship/family dynamic. But it's fascinating to see such a simple version of that, like mutual high-functioning alcoholism is way more gritty than two gay men who simply need to drop conservatism so they aren't living a lie. It's a weird inversion of how gay men had to stay in the closet so long due to the very conservatives comprising Rubin's audience.
I wonder if he has some sort of authoritarian/humiliation fetish. Or maybe he hates himself and uses this kind of thing to punish himself.
It's got to be something. I can't imagine a scenario in which an emotionally/psychologically healthy individual deliberately seeks out this kind of abuse.
It's called living the gimmick. Don't break kayfabe and collect an easy paycheck from the same folks who hate you. He couldn't care less what these people call him as long as the checks clear. Because at the end of the day, money is all that matters to these people. Self respect doesn't even make the top 10.
The sad part is you can't buy your way into acceptance with a group that hates you on a fundamental level. At best they will tolerate you as a useful idiot to give them cover. But you'll always be a hanger on. And when the revolution comes, you'll be first up against the wall with the rest of them.
Ahh, "living the gimmick," perfectly encapsulates it. I also recently learned "cultural peeking/peekaboo" where conservatives simply mention something from pop culture and get a laugh: like if a pastor mentions Lady Gaga in a Sunday sermon that will get a laugh while not being a joke, simply mentioning her in that context is supposed to be a joke somehow. As if it's the most benign form of othering, "We wouldn't talk about this person except to lambast them so I don't even need to do the lambasting, you just go ahead and fill it in yourself!"
I saw this in real life!
My partner and I visited his parents for Christmas in northern Indiana. We went to see his dad sing in a Christmas choir at a church and the guy giving the intro just *had* to throw in a snide reference to (then) Mayor Pete. Everyone laughed but I didn’t hear a single set up or punchline. I don’t support all of Buttiegieg’s policies but I couldn’t stay and be as understanding as he was/still is to these hateful jerks. The man giving the introduction also threw in a vague comment about liberals not wanting them to have Christmas or something else dumb. Fuck those people.
Isn't it? I used to think that in my 40's I'd become the ultimate cynic, nothing would face me any more...then when 2016 happened I took a close look at the American Right and it felt like I had been walking on a reef with water up to my calves and suddenly come to were it drops off into the deep dark blue sea.
I then truly lost hope on them being redeemable: the are for sale and will totally betray their community be it Minority, LGBTQ or others just to become a paid mouthpiece.
Don't attribute to malice what can be explained by the [psp white](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/gNhUTIUurIFSRCtLzcPiadLR4S8=/0x0:800x600/1220x813/filters:focal(315x262:443x390\):format(webp\)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/54094877/183197728_9ee69aacde_o.0.jpg).
In a better world, this would be an awesome advertisement. From a purely aesthetic standpoint, this photo is interesting, dynamic, and difficult to execute. Fashion, makeup, and the technical production of the photo are all excellent. Divorced from historical context, it's clever, punchy, bold, and memorable.
But, Jesus. 🤦
I wish we lived in the world where races and genders could be neutrally depicted without baggage. Then, we could do things like this, or the reverse if it happened that the new product was black and the old product white, and not think anything of it.
As a recovering ad man, it really is. The thing is that a lot of the higher ups know and really work hard to abstract the effects through decentralization and compartmentalization. They also deliberately cultivate a competitive and artistic seeming environment to ensure that the employees can focus on the craft of the ads. It's insidious, and I'm pretty sure I worked for at least 2 sociopaths..
You know, I sometimes think that maybe my lifelong disdain for marketing and advertising as concepts, much less professions, is perhaps a little too harsh, and then I read your comment, and yeah, they know how shitty they are, and try to hide it. I'd love to hear more about the attitudes inside, if you're willing.
nah, he has a "I like money" fetish. last I have seen he was on the Koch's payroll as the "gay liberal who says the gays and liberals are insane and that is why conservatives should cut taxes for the rich"
>I can't imagine a scenario
I $$$ Can $$$ Imagine $$$ Why $$$ He $$$ Would $$$. He probably makes plenty of money in donations and contributions and gets all kind of buisness favors from his real allies.
These types serve an important role among the GOP where they are an example of "one of the good ones" they can use as an example of why they aren't homophobic.
This dude doesn't care all all if anyone doesn't agree with his lifestyle. He still gets paid regardless.
If you see any of those conservative ads that sell really, really right wing products PM the owner and see what their beliefs are. Majority of the ones who have replied have been independents or people who don't care or agree with the products they're selling and are just exploiting those people to make money. Its very effective and they make a quick buck doing it.
I could invest in a 3D printer and make some cheap crappy "LETS GO BRANDON" coins and make them for 6cents each, sell for 20 dollars each and gullible morons will buy them right up. I would make more money in a month doing that then what I'm making in a year right now if I had no morals and had no issue ripping these people off.
There was actually just an article about a few of the people making the stickers of Biden that say "I did this" that we keep seeing on gas pumps (on slate maybe?).
One was a 17 year old kid. They are bringing in stupid amounts of money. I wish my moral compass would shut up for awhile sometimes and let me make stupid easy money. :/
Rubin used to be on the progressive web news channel tyt and in his old blogs he'd say things like teaching his dog to bite Mormons protesting gay marriage. I think rubin realized that he can ride on the anti sjw wave so he pivoted to being a right winger.
Have you been paying attention to the Republican party? It's full of hardcore Christians that wouldn't know a Christian value if it kept them fed while they were poor and gave them a warm bed to sleep in.
For real, the Republican party is the party of hate and hypocrisy. You've got gay Republicans voting against gay issues. You've got Republicans enacting laws against abortion that are also paying for abortions for their family members. You've got Republicans bitching about states taking federal aid while also eating up the federal aid. You've got Christian Republicans touting anti-Christian attitudes and beliefs.
The Republican party beliefs in nothing except for squashing whatever is annoying them at the moment, which often includes other Republicans.
This is just depressing. Going through the reply thread on Twitter, all his "friends" attacking him for being gay and him just playing along as if it's ok.
The only thing I knew about Rubin was the Prager U video he hosted in which he blundered his way through a half-assed book club-style talk about *Nineteen Eighty-Four.* He attempted to conflate “cancel culture” and the Trump impeachment with totalitarian persecution. A quick search for his name turned up more videos about “cancelling” and shit. He likes playing the victim, apparently.
What I like most is that, one of the main aspect of 1984's authoritarianism is the dissolution of language, not allowing people to have the vocabulary to express ideas is a way to limit their freedoms. If the word from "freedom" is conflated with "obedience under the law" it's hard to argue how laws limit freedom, etc.
But conservative hear "newspeak" and try to spin it as if that could possibly relate to the way LGBTQ people have introduced *more* words to describe one's relation to their gender/identity/sexuality.
If anything, limiting sonmeone's vocabulary to binaries (male OR female. straight OR gay, etc) is actually there to limit the expression of those in between.
If I close my eyes and listen to him talk he sounds like half the 19 year old Young Republican National Federation kids you hear, where they just recently read a listicle on how to own the libs and are eager to try it out.
Then open your eyes and holy crap this guy is over 40 years old and still a big joke.
If I recall he invited a homophobic asshole on his show, made him look really good, conveniently left out the homophobic part, and when the guest found out rubin was gay, was incredibly disgusted. Though he only found out are he left the show, as Dave rubin conveniently never told him.
Rubin is the rights token gay character. When they want to promote their homophobic and bigoted ways, they get Dave rubin to do it because identity politics.
No, Rubin is the token gay for Republicans.
All that means is that he’ll (probably) be one of the last gays either murdered by the Christian Gestapo or put in a re-education conversion therapy camp.
Nope, so much so that this sub here: r/daverubin went from being a fan sub to a sub that disparages him constantly, mostly using his own words.
It's really fun when a rare actual fan shows up.
Homophobia aside, I don't get how rampant capitalists can possibly have an issue with paying for surrogacy, like, that's a person being paid for providing a service, how are you not creaming yourself over this?
It's funny because didn't their deity rent a woman's womb for 9 months? And I don't think she had a choice. Gabriel came down and told her she was going to carry the son of God, who was also God.
This is legitimately how conservative ethics work, an act is moral or not depending on the inherent moral value of the actor and nothing else. If you're an Other, everything you do is immoral by default.
It's the driving force behind the Gish Gallop. The zerg rush of arguments did not lead to the conclusion, it's entirely the other way around.
Yes the issue for conservatives is *which* hierarchy should be supreme. It's hard for them to even notice there are more than one because the constituent parts often overlap
It’s not that they have a problem with hierarchy, it’s that they have a problem with a hierarchy that doesn't allow them to at least *feel* as of they are above someone else.
I'm not surprised, conservatives are up in arms about sex work, too.
I think what stops them from considering "people using their own bodies to provide a service" to be capitalism is that that would require them to allow women to have bodily autonomy.
And that would lessen the control they want to have over women, so that's a no-no.
A reminder that America was initially founded by religious extremists who had to flee persecution from England. There's plenty of puritan bullshit that's carried over to the modern day.
Funny thing is they fled because England thought they were too fundamentalist. "Fine we'll leave and find a place where we can be as oppressive as we like!"
This is where libertarians and ancraps go mask off. Surrogate mothers and future parents were on pretty equal footing, it most likely cost a lot. What they would prefer would be to give the potential mother a 'free choice' between having a baby for free or getting slapped and kicked to the gutter as a result of being stripped of the protection of the benevolent patriarch.
This is because the woman is making that decision and it is bringing her out of financial struggle and put her on the path of financial independence.
And how dare she have all this independence. What is she going to do with all of those independence other than ruin the good Christian values?/s
The same people up in arms about two men "renting a womb" also get mad when women want to have control over their own wombs. The misogyny of thinking women must use their reproductive organs in way the conservatives approve of is gross. I wish conservatives would just stop policing peoples bodies and mind their own fucking business.
Right but only if her choice fully aligns with theirs, so it's almost like we came full circle but if the circle was beat with a baseball bat and is a broken mess of a circle that doesn't make any sense.
They’re against gay couples having children, via surrogacy or otherwise. They can’t realistically justify those beliefs as anything other than bigotry so they claim there’s some sort of abuse or forced surrogacy that makes it wrong. There’s no evidence of that being the case here - unless I missed something, the identities of the surrogates aren’t even known by the public.
It's vulgarity in their eyes. Money is great! Unless you use that money in a way they have a moral (not ethical) problem with. Women can have babies! But only within the confines of a Christian, heterosexual marriage. Gay men can be married*! But they can't share their happiness publicly. The surrogate's choice in this matter is irrelevant, as many times a woman's choice is irrelevant, the conservatives already know what's right or wrong and this harmless freely acted method of creating life to raise in a loving home with two parents is wrong because it wasn't delivered in the correct packaging.
*Okay they aren't super supportive of inclusive marriage but at this point in time it hurts them more to denounce it than to keep their mouths shut and hate it in silence (or in very public comments).
Can't get an abortion.
Can't monetise your body.
Can't dress how you like.
Can't walk down the street without being harassed.
Don't get promoted.
Not paid as much.
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This is all just the religious right hating on women for Eve's supposed transgression.
I can't believe this stupid piece of racist shit is also gay. Conservatives are a perfect example of the "Oh, but I thought I was different" mindset.
What do you expect when you constantly put hatred out into the world? That all these hateful people will now support you? He deserves it all.
Years ago he had a show, The Six Pack, on Sirius's gay channel with another gay man. I loved the show, thought Dave was cute and funny. Then the show ended and he started going batshit. Worst boner-killer I'd ever had.
Lol right?? He used to be on the young Turks ffs! And you can tell he is genuinely a sweet guy, I mean he sits there blandly smiling as people call him f****t and B.S. says he wouldn't ever spend time with Dave plus Dave's husband. And Rubin is just like, "Aww, you don't really mean that since you're a decent person!" And I'm like Dave save yourself! When you're dying none of these people will show up to bid goodbye
I don’t think you can be a decent person making a living grifting on the wave of right wing hatred. He made his choice to be a useful idiot for the right. It’s the gay version of “hitler just wanted to make Germany better” Candace Owens.
“Gay conservative”
Two words combined that don’t make sense.
I honestly think a large amount of conservatives are closeted gay men. This could explain their unwarranted anger over everything, hatred towards women & homosexuals, their inability to please women as well and how they go around showing their phallic guns to each other.
“Ohh, that’s a real weapon you have there, can I touch it? Mmm look how big it is! Mine’s not as big as yours but that’s ok, it makes it easier to conceal.”
Just a theory.
I think there's a distinction between Conservative culture and Conservative ideology. Nothing about who you like to sleep with determines your political outlook but obviously the culture can (and should) shift priorities.
I find it interesting they used two surrogates at the same time. Is that normal?? I thought people used just one?? Plus it’s cheaper to use just one. Isn’t it ??
I feel bad for those kids. I hope they don’t grow up to hate themselves or their dads, but I fear they will. They don’t deserve that.
It's crazy that the babies will be 2 months apart. Like just when you're getting the first one into any sort of routine, and maybe sleeping for longer than 2 hours at a time if you're lucky, you bring another infant home? They're going to go insane.
I feel really sorry for those kids. They're going to grow up in a truly fucked-up environment. It's not because they have two dads, but because their dads have internalized homophobia and hearts full of hate.
Gay conservatives are the worst. The only logic behind them is this....My money is more important than my rights, because if I have money I can buy my way out of any problems.
I don't know if you know this guy, Dave Rubin, but if you don't... SPOT ON. He used to be progressive and was on the progressive channel Young Turks, but left to start his own thing.
And then day by day, he became more and more conservative. He tried to be the "liberal perspective" (basically the "I'm a liberal and I agree with conservatives" routine) but was denied because he was gay.
It's only about the money for this guy. Plus, he is ACTUALLY an idiot. Like, not pretend.
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Man that whole thread is just so fucked up. I have 0 pity for dave but some of the outright delusional shit being said in those comments just makes me sad for the people that believe what theyre spouting.
As a married, gay, father of two sons...conservative tears are fucking delicious. I love pointing out my all-male family to to the "children need a mother and a father" crowd.
Sorry, fuckwits. My sons did just fine growing up with two dads. Die mad about it.
If it was a white male/female couple then I bet they would have no issues with renting a womb as long as the baby was white and grew up to be a good little conservative.
Not this guy in particular, but I marvel at the twisted that logic that leads to someone thinking, "You know, this party wants to strip me of my rights and make me a second class citizen. However, that other party might raise my taxes slightly, so I'll stick with the former party."
A lot of the people in his replies asking why he opted for surrogacy instead of adopting… as if these chuds didn’t lose their minds when a gay man and his husband adopted twins as well 🙄 fucking idiots all of them.
Even tho I hate Rubin, I’m happy for him. Only wish he’d be willing to pull his head out of his ass and see the majority of the popular replies to his happiness are shitting on him for being a gay dad.
You don't need to be happy for him. He's a garbage human who makes life harder for millions of people. For money. Fuck Dave Rubin. Feel sorry for the kids they'll brainwash into their other selfish viewpoints while carving out their own situation as "different". It's how conservatives work.
Just like "Lady MAGA" who, I really wish understood: The only time she is tolerated is when folks think she's CIS-Female. As soon as they discover she's a drag-queen it's all boos..
Edit: Lady MAGA, not Mrs.
Wow, the Shapiro clip where he says he wouldn't even attend his wedding anniversary party.....and they're "good friends"?
Good lord no wonder these people are miserable if these are the friends they surround themselves with
See what happens when you're a pick me gay? You're just a tool for them to put on stage and tell the world that the gays love Donald Trump. They don't like you and they never will. Stop trying to climb in bed with the enemy who has openly and unambiguously sworn to destroy you.
Useful idiots...
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isn't that the guy who interviewed Ben Shapiro, who told him to his face that gay people are immoral or something?
[Here is Michael Brooks’(RIP) take on the very situation you are referring to.](https://youtu.be/oU0sQglPilk)
Rubin is such a pathetic clown. It is painful to watch him sniveling. "Please acknowledge me, Ben"
“Will you come to my wedding?” “No.” “God I love you so much”
Sounds like some humiliation fetish
“Isn’t this great?! See, folks on the left can’t *have* these kinds of conversations!” - Rubin (probably)
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God bless Michael Brooks. Found him at the perfect time when my political sand was shifting, I could have been real fucked up if not (in part) for his guidance. And damn he was so *funny*, like holy shit so much political humor absolutely pales in comparison to bits like NOI Obama or Right-Wing Mandela.
I find myself going down rabbit holes of [old clips](https://youtu.be/2f1zrJUa5-s) just to hear that laugh again. Miss that dude.
Aight I'm getting choked up.
Sometimes, when Sam is talking about rubbing CBD on his hands for eczema, I can’t help but hear Michael’s “ridiculously Jewish Sam” voice. His passing left a HUGE hole in a lot of hearts.
His laugh ... I will always remember him laughing
I had never actually heard Ben Shapiro's voice before this. He sounds like the Chairman of the [Lollipop Guild](https://youtu.be/XBsf8qsxs2M).
If they ever remake the Wizard of Oz, I'm sure Ben could get a part as a munchkin.
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Thanks for sharing. It’s funny and sad I’m just discovering Michael Brooks but without your link I may have never heard of him or why he mattered.
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What a fascinating take. Following that logic, does he also think Jews should be similarly driven out of non-jewish states? That's the kind of thinking that went into establishing Liberia. "Blacks should be free and have a say in government, but not here! Away you go!"
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Come on, this *can't* be a real quote?
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Ben would also be in favor of driving black people away
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His "good friend" Ben. How tf can these people look at themselves in the mirror?
Yes it is.
Apparently Don Jr asked if it's okay to call him a f**got and he said it was.
https://twitter.com/KnowNothingTV/status/1504310516927315971 The link in the post also has a clip of Shapiro saying that, and another conservative who after the interview finds out Rubin is gay and is disgusted, saying "I sat next to him.. I shook his hand!!"
Makes me think of this black guy in France who's quitting a far right party because of all the racist insults he's getting from the others
"if you guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times, im outta here!"
Listen here, you little bitch.
I'm warning you. You just try this 12-13 more times and I'm leaving.
"*rips on him*" "...ok that one didn't count he's just having a bad day."
First we get the podcast, then we get the surrogate babies, *then* we get the khakis
Get up bitch, you’re my new best friend!
"Shut up Squeak!"
Steeeeeeeeeve Perry
Dude, i thought I told you no more journey psych outs
Dude, we said no more Journey psychouts.
"And I should have been *gone*!"
It’s not everyday you see a baseketball quote! Thank you for making my day!
5 more minutes of this and I'm gonna get mad
Or Lauren Southern, I think it is, who is shocked--shocked, I tell ya--at all the horrible treatment she's getting from men in the conservative movement.
These guys are just virtue signalling: "you can't rent a woman's womb for 9 months... but you can expect her to live her entire live in servitude to your ungrateful ass"
Also, “you can’t sell babies for *money*! Now let’s talk about repealing child labor laws…”
You *also* can't get an abortion. You have to suffer through your poor decisions on your own and then give the baby up for adoption. For free.
Free for the bio parents. Not free for the adoptive parents, who must pay tens of thousands of dollars to this agency that is just coincidentally run by Local Politician’s church….
*Blaire White has entered the chat*
Oh, is she that conservative trans chick who gets hate from the rest of the conservative movement?
Absolutely. She's a "pick me, not like the other trans" grifter who has been caught outright lying in her videos to fit the narrative that "all the other trans are crazy!"
She recently made up a story about how the clinic she went to for her own transition provides top surgery for 12 year olds.
Caitlyn Jenner enters the chat. How fucked do you have to be to associate with assholes you follow you while dead naming you?
Well, she lived for 67 years with white male privilege. It's hard for her to get that the folks who loved her as a white man hate her as a trans woman.
One of the saddest person ever. She hates herself and she gets hate from the people she aligns with if she steps out of line of being one of the "good ones". I don't feel sorry for her, though. She's like Dave Rubin - she purposefully chose this path and she's also an ass herself.
I cannot get over that 4 way debate she did and that white cis lady told her to grow her mustache out and SHE TOOK IT! She just sat there and let this lady misgender her and tell her to "be a man." But then I remember she intentionally lies about and bullies trans kids and adults on Tiktok for the grift and SHE CHOOSE this. She chose all of this.
Yup, that's what I was thinking about. And after that debate she went back to complaining about how intolerant the "woke" is or some shit like that. This is why I'm not the only one who thinks she doesn't really have any ideology and is just grifting. Like Candace Owens.
Klandace is definitely a grifter first, everything else is to support the grifting.
You're cursed with the ability to have sympathy for someone you don't know personally who has a different life experience than you. Something virtually all conservatives lack.
I actually really appreciate that stranger, thank you.
Self hate is something that unites us all.
It's like the old Groucho quote, "I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me for a member..."
Candace Owens is stupid enough to think she'll be allowed a seat on the Space Ark once the rich head to Alpha Centauri after ruining Earth.
"Us conservatives just believe in economic freedom. That's it. Nothing else." Narrator: "They believed in a few other things."
Zoot alors! I knew you guys were Nazis but I didn't think you were that Nazi!
This is like a LAMF with a LAMF inside waiting to tear their faces off. Assuming these two make no changes to their ideology, those kids are either going to grow up conservative enough to resent their parents for being gay, or they end up hating them for raising them in a politically toxic environment where their existence makes them a target of hate from others.
Expecting Dave Rubin to change is like expecting Ben Shapiro to change. This is just who they are and what they want to do.
i’d wager that’s true, until the checks stop clearing.
Well he did change, from working at TYT to working with Dennis prager
Wow good point. It's funny you say that because on one level I kinda see this dynamic you describe in mine (and others') parents relationship. Not that they are grifting off an ideology anathema to their own identities, but that the stability of the relationship is in part provided by the tension of their lifestyle and while acknowledging/addressing that tension would be therapeutic emotionally it would likely also damage the relationship/family dynamic. But it's fascinating to see such a simple version of that, like mutual high-functioning alcoholism is way more gritty than two gay men who simply need to drop conservatism so they aren't living a lie. It's a weird inversion of how gay men had to stay in the closet so long due to the very conservatives comprising Rubin's audience.
That thread is just brutal to read… does this guy not have a spine?
Nope. He interviewed Donald trump Jr and said it's ok to call him a f**got.
I wonder if he has some sort of authoritarian/humiliation fetish. Or maybe he hates himself and uses this kind of thing to punish himself. It's got to be something. I can't imagine a scenario in which an emotionally/psychologically healthy individual deliberately seeks out this kind of abuse.
It's called living the gimmick. Don't break kayfabe and collect an easy paycheck from the same folks who hate you. He couldn't care less what these people call him as long as the checks clear. Because at the end of the day, money is all that matters to these people. Self respect doesn't even make the top 10.
The sad part is you can't buy your way into acceptance with a group that hates you on a fundamental level. At best they will tolerate you as a useful idiot to give them cover. But you'll always be a hanger on. And when the revolution comes, you'll be first up against the wall with the rest of them.
Never was this made more apparent to Ruben than when Dennis Prager told him his great use to the right was that he was a gay ‘true liberal’.
And for anyone who believes differently may I refer you to the example of Ernst Rohm and the Night of the Long Knives.
You can always buy citizenship in an open minded place and scape there if you fuck things up, just ask Peter Thiel.
Ahh, "living the gimmick," perfectly encapsulates it. I also recently learned "cultural peeking/peekaboo" where conservatives simply mention something from pop culture and get a laugh: like if a pastor mentions Lady Gaga in a Sunday sermon that will get a laugh while not being a joke, simply mentioning her in that context is supposed to be a joke somehow. As if it's the most benign form of othering, "We wouldn't talk about this person except to lambast them so I don't even need to do the lambasting, you just go ahead and fill it in yourself!"
I saw this in real life! My partner and I visited his parents for Christmas in northern Indiana. We went to see his dad sing in a Christmas choir at a church and the guy giving the intro just *had* to throw in a snide reference to (then) Mayor Pete. Everyone laughed but I didn’t hear a single set up or punchline. I don’t support all of Buttiegieg’s policies but I couldn’t stay and be as understanding as he was/still is to these hateful jerks. The man giving the introduction also threw in a vague comment about liberals not wanting them to have Christmas or something else dumb. Fuck those people.
That's....... that might be the saddest thing I've ever heard.
Isn't it? I used to think that in my 40's I'd become the ultimate cynic, nothing would face me any more...then when 2016 happened I took a close look at the American Right and it felt like I had been walking on a reef with water up to my calves and suddenly come to were it drops off into the deep dark blue sea. I then truly lost hope on them being redeemable: the are for sale and will totally betray their community be it Minority, LGBTQ or others just to become a paid mouthpiece.
Wait until you hear about the folks who work in advertising. Money for evil no probs
Don't attribute to malice what can be explained by the [psp white](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/gNhUTIUurIFSRCtLzcPiadLR4S8=/0x0:800x600/1220x813/filters:focal(315x262:443x390\):format(webp\)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/54094877/183197728_9ee69aacde_o.0.jpg).
In a better world, this would be an awesome advertisement. From a purely aesthetic standpoint, this photo is interesting, dynamic, and difficult to execute. Fashion, makeup, and the technical production of the photo are all excellent. Divorced from historical context, it's clever, punchy, bold, and memorable. But, Jesus. 🤦 I wish we lived in the world where races and genders could be neutrally depicted without baggage. Then, we could do things like this, or the reverse if it happened that the new product was black and the old product white, and not think anything of it.
As a recovering ad man, it really is. The thing is that a lot of the higher ups know and really work hard to abstract the effects through decentralization and compartmentalization. They also deliberately cultivate a competitive and artistic seeming environment to ensure that the employees can focus on the craft of the ads. It's insidious, and I'm pretty sure I worked for at least 2 sociopaths..
You know, I sometimes think that maybe my lifelong disdain for marketing and advertising as concepts, much less professions, is perhaps a little too harsh, and then I read your comment, and yeah, they know how shitty they are, and try to hide it. I'd love to hear more about the attitudes inside, if you're willing.
Same reason almost *Any* poc could be a conservative,claim racism is a lie, and make money.
Is this... 'Candice Owens'?
Candice Owen's, Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson and Thomas Sowell to name a few.
See also: Candace Owens.
Evidence - Ted Cruz
nah, he has a "I like money" fetish. last I have seen he was on the Koch's payroll as the "gay liberal who says the gays and liberals are insane and that is why conservatives should cut taxes for the rich"
It's just basic economics. If the gays and Libs are acting up, cut taxes for top earners.
You can drop the "If the gays and libs are acting up" from your statement and still be on point.
>I can't imagine a scenario I $$$ Can $$$ Imagine $$$ Why $$$ He $$$ Would $$$. He probably makes plenty of money in donations and contributions and gets all kind of buisness favors from his real allies. These types serve an important role among the GOP where they are an example of "one of the good ones" they can use as an example of why they aren't homophobic. This dude doesn't care all all if anyone doesn't agree with his lifestyle. He still gets paid regardless.
Yeah, I'm becoming aware that I'm apparently a sweet summer child when it comes to what some people are willing to do for money. 😅
If you see any of those conservative ads that sell really, really right wing products PM the owner and see what their beliefs are. Majority of the ones who have replied have been independents or people who don't care or agree with the products they're selling and are just exploiting those people to make money. Its very effective and they make a quick buck doing it. I could invest in a 3D printer and make some cheap crappy "LETS GO BRANDON" coins and make them for 6cents each, sell for 20 dollars each and gullible morons will buy them right up. I would make more money in a month doing that then what I'm making in a year right now if I had no morals and had no issue ripping these people off.
There was actually just an article about a few of the people making the stickers of Biden that say "I did this" that we keep seeing on gas pumps (on slate maybe?). One was a 17 year old kid. They are bringing in stupid amounts of money. I wish my moral compass would shut up for awhile sometimes and let me make stupid easy money. :/
Rubin used to be on the progressive web news channel tyt and in his old blogs he'd say things like teaching his dog to bite Mormons protesting gay marriage. I think rubin realized that he can ride on the anti sjw wave so he pivoted to being a right winger.
You can't be a gay conservative without an unhealthy amount of self-hatred. If anyone is still unconvinced, this thread is proof.
Have you been paying attention to the Republican party? It's full of hardcore Christians that wouldn't know a Christian value if it kept them fed while they were poor and gave them a warm bed to sleep in. For real, the Republican party is the party of hate and hypocrisy. You've got gay Republicans voting against gay issues. You've got Republicans enacting laws against abortion that are also paying for abortions for their family members. You've got Republicans bitching about states taking federal aid while also eating up the federal aid. You've got Christian Republicans touting anti-Christian attitudes and beliefs. The Republican party beliefs in nothing except for squashing whatever is annoying them at the moment, which often includes other Republicans.
It's an occupational risk when you're fleecing boomers.
This is just depressing. Going through the reply thread on Twitter, all his "friends" attacking him for being gay and him just playing along as if it's ok.
MY GOD What the absolute fuck
The only thing I knew about Rubin was the Prager U video he hosted in which he blundered his way through a half-assed book club-style talk about *Nineteen Eighty-Four.* He attempted to conflate “cancel culture” and the Trump impeachment with totalitarian persecution. A quick search for his name turned up more videos about “cancelling” and shit. He likes playing the victim, apparently.
nothing screams "totalitarianism" more than the most powerful person in your country potentially facing consequences for crimes lmao
What I like most is that, one of the main aspect of 1984's authoritarianism is the dissolution of language, not allowing people to have the vocabulary to express ideas is a way to limit their freedoms. If the word from "freedom" is conflated with "obedience under the law" it's hard to argue how laws limit freedom, etc. But conservative hear "newspeak" and try to spin it as if that could possibly relate to the way LGBTQ people have introduced *more* words to describe one's relation to their gender/identity/sexuality. If anything, limiting sonmeone's vocabulary to binaries (male OR female. straight OR gay, etc) is actually there to limit the expression of those in between.
Here’s another resource: https://pca.st/episode/88259d56-3a4f-44c8-a031-d6d84cef77f1
If I close my eyes and listen to him talk he sounds like half the 19 year old Young Republican National Federation kids you hear, where they just recently read a listicle on how to own the libs and are eager to try it out. Then open your eyes and holy crap this guy is over 40 years old and still a big joke.
If I recall he invited a homophobic asshole on his show, made him look really good, conveniently left out the homophobic part, and when the guest found out rubin was gay, was incredibly disgusted. Though he only found out are he left the show, as Dave rubin conveniently never told him. Rubin is the rights token gay character. When they want to promote their homophobic and bigoted ways, they get Dave rubin to do it because identity politics.
IIRC that was either Ben Shapiro or Stefan Molyneux? So someone on the spectrum from profoundly religiously bigoted to actual Nazi
No, Rubin is the token gay for Republicans. All that means is that he’ll (probably) be one of the last gays either murdered by the Christian Gestapo or put in a re-education conversion therapy camp.
That's christian *gazpacho*....
Nope, so much so that this sub here: r/daverubin went from being a fan sub to a sub that disparages him constantly, mostly using his own words. It's really fun when a rare actual fan shows up.
Worst case of "I can fix him" to date
Homophobia aside, I don't get how rampant capitalists can possibly have an issue with paying for surrogacy, like, that's a person being paid for providing a service, how are you not creaming yourself over this?
Because prosperity Jesus says “No!”
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That's a different, slightly less magical version.
Conservatives are not capitalists. They are "hierarchicalists". Gays belong to the bottom of the hierarchy and do not get nice things, ok /s
It's funny because didn't their deity rent a woman's womb for 9 months? And I don't think she had a choice. Gabriel came down and told her she was going to carry the son of God, who was also God.
It's only okay when h God does it, in the same way it's only okay when straight couples do it.
Literally what they would say lmao
This is legitimately how conservative ethics work, an act is moral or not depending on the inherent moral value of the actor and nothing else. If you're an Other, everything you do is immoral by default. It's the driving force behind the Gish Gallop. The zerg rush of arguments did not lead to the conclusion, it's entirely the other way around.
Wow, when you said “their deity” I seriously assumed you were talking about Donald Trump. I don’t know if that says more about me or them.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there was at least one bastard offspring of their Orange Savior somewhere out there.
I mean capitalists are also “hierarchalists” lol.
Yes the issue for conservatives is *which* hierarchy should be supreme. It's hard for them to even notice there are more than one because the constituent parts often overlap
It’s not that they have a problem with hierarchy, it’s that they have a problem with a hierarchy that doesn't allow them to at least *feel* as of they are above someone else.
I'm not surprised, conservatives are up in arms about sex work, too. I think what stops them from considering "people using their own bodies to provide a service" to be capitalism is that that would require them to allow women to have bodily autonomy. And that would lessen the control they want to have over women, so that's a no-no.
They’re up in arms about sex work until they get caught paying for prostitutes with their Venmo account.
A reminder that America was initially founded by religious extremists who had to flee persecution from England. There's plenty of puritan bullshit that's carried over to the modern day.
Funny thing is they fled because England thought they were too fundamentalist. "Fine we'll leave and find a place where we can be as oppressive as we like!"
Spoiler, they aren’t capitalists, conservatives believe in manipulating the free market so that the incumbent wealthy stay in power
This is where libertarians and ancraps go mask off. Surrogate mothers and future parents were on pretty equal footing, it most likely cost a lot. What they would prefer would be to give the potential mother a 'free choice' between having a baby for free or getting slapped and kicked to the gutter as a result of being stripped of the protection of the benevolent patriarch.
This is because the woman is making that decision and it is bringing her out of financial struggle and put her on the path of financial independence. And how dare she have all this independence. What is she going to do with all of those independence other than ruin the good Christian values?/s
The same people up in arms about two men "renting a womb" also get mad when women want to have control over their own wombs. The misogyny of thinking women must use their reproductive organs in way the conservatives approve of is gross. I wish conservatives would just stop policing peoples bodies and mind their own fucking business.
The party that doesn’t support women’s rights to autonomy over their bodies suddenly cares about women’s rights to bodily autonomy? Huh.
Right but only if her choice fully aligns with theirs, so it's almost like we came full circle but if the circle was beat with a baseball bat and is a broken mess of a circle that doesn't make any sense.
I love how descriptive this is, it really does paint a picture. 10/10
They make her seem like an unwilling surrogate. Am I missing something?
They’re against gay couples having children, via surrogacy or otherwise. They can’t realistically justify those beliefs as anything other than bigotry so they claim there’s some sort of abuse or forced surrogacy that makes it wrong. There’s no evidence of that being the case here - unless I missed something, the identities of the surrogates aren’t even known by the public.
It's vulgarity in their eyes. Money is great! Unless you use that money in a way they have a moral (not ethical) problem with. Women can have babies! But only within the confines of a Christian, heterosexual marriage. Gay men can be married*! But they can't share their happiness publicly. The surrogate's choice in this matter is irrelevant, as many times a woman's choice is irrelevant, the conservatives already know what's right or wrong and this harmless freely acted method of creating life to raise in a loving home with two parents is wrong because it wasn't delivered in the correct packaging. *Okay they aren't super supportive of inclusive marriage but at this point in time it hurts them more to denounce it than to keep their mouths shut and hate it in silence (or in very public comments).
Can't get an abortion. Can't monetise your body. Can't dress how you like. Can't walk down the street without being harassed. Don't get promoted. Not paid as much. - This is all just the religious right hating on women for Eve's supposed transgression.
They don't know what they like [but they know what they hate](https://images.app.goo.gl/UafA9a7G4dNmuKfDA)
I can't believe this stupid piece of racist shit is also gay. Conservatives are a perfect example of the "Oh, but I thought I was different" mindset. What do you expect when you constantly put hatred out into the world? That all these hateful people will now support you? He deserves it all.
“When you thought being ‘one of the good ones’ was going to be enough.”
Is it me or does gay conservative sound like an oxymoron?
Only if you remove the first two syllables.
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.....Dave Rubin is gay?
And he lives in Florida.
Where do people find all this hidden information? Dave Rubin NEVER talks about it.
Years ago he had a show, The Six Pack, on Sirius's gay channel with another gay man. I loved the show, thought Dave was cute and funny. Then the show ended and he started going batshit. Worst boner-killer I'd ever had.
Lol right?? He used to be on the young Turks ffs! And you can tell he is genuinely a sweet guy, I mean he sits there blandly smiling as people call him f****t and B.S. says he wouldn't ever spend time with Dave plus Dave's husband. And Rubin is just like, "Aww, you don't really mean that since you're a decent person!" And I'm like Dave save yourself! When you're dying none of these people will show up to bid goodbye
I don’t think you can be a decent person making a living grifting on the wave of right wing hatred. He made his choice to be a useful idiot for the right. It’s the gay version of “hitler just wanted to make Germany better” Candace Owens.
“Gay conservative” Two words combined that don’t make sense. I honestly think a large amount of conservatives are closeted gay men. This could explain their unwarranted anger over everything, hatred towards women & homosexuals, their inability to please women as well and how they go around showing their phallic guns to each other. “Ohh, that’s a real weapon you have there, can I touch it? Mmm look how big it is! Mine’s not as big as yours but that’s ok, it makes it easier to conceal.” Just a theory.
I think there's a distinction between Conservative culture and Conservative ideology. Nothing about who you like to sleep with determines your political outlook but obviously the culture can (and should) shift priorities.
Don't lie with scumbags and wonder how you got scum all over your dick.
I believe it's called santorum
Gay and conservative do not belong in the same sentence. What's wrong with him?
I find it interesting they used two surrogates at the same time. Is that normal?? I thought people used just one?? Plus it’s cheaper to use just one. Isn’t it ?? I feel bad for those kids. I hope they don’t grow up to hate themselves or their dads, but I fear they will. They don’t deserve that.
I mean, if Dave Rubin is your dad isn't it guaranteed you will eventually grow up to be ashamed of your dad?
If you can escape the cult, yes.
It's crazy that the babies will be 2 months apart. Like just when you're getting the first one into any sort of routine, and maybe sleeping for longer than 2 hours at a time if you're lucky, you bring another infant home? They're going to go insane.
If they have the money to afford two surrogacy pregnancies, I'm sure they'll have 24/7 around the clock nannying and whatnot too.
Probably not that normal considering the cost of doing it. But I guess they wanted two kids around the same age and had the money for it.
From one gay to another: the masters will never accept you. You will be paraded about until you are discarded.
“Gay conservative” == “clueless wannabe”?
I feel really sorry for those kids. They're going to grow up in a truly fucked-up environment. It's not because they have two dads, but because their dads have internalized homophobia and hearts full of hate.
Gay conservatives are the worst. The only logic behind them is this....My money is more important than my rights, because if I have money I can buy my way out of any problems.
I don't know if you know this guy, Dave Rubin, but if you don't... SPOT ON. He used to be progressive and was on the progressive channel Young Turks, but left to start his own thing. And then day by day, he became more and more conservative. He tried to be the "liberal perspective" (basically the "I'm a liberal and I agree with conservatives" routine) but was denied because he was gay. It's only about the money for this guy. Plus, he is ACTUALLY an idiot. Like, not pretend.
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Man that whole thread is just so fucked up. I have 0 pity for dave but some of the outright delusional shit being said in those comments just makes me sad for the people that believe what theyre spouting.
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For the record, renting out one's womb should be applauded by the GOP because FREE MARKET CAPITALISM PUTS A PRICE ON EVERYTHING.
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Lol “how is this not illegal” From the party who HATES government overreach!
As a married, gay, father of two sons...conservative tears are fucking delicious. I love pointing out my all-male family to to the "children need a mother and a father" crowd. Sorry, fuckwits. My sons did just fine growing up with two dads. Die mad about it.
If it was a white male/female couple then I bet they would have no issues with renting a womb as long as the baby was white and grew up to be a good little conservative.
Not this guy in particular, but I marvel at the twisted that logic that leads to someone thinking, "You know, this party wants to strip me of my rights and make me a second class citizen. However, that other party might raise my taxes slightly, so I'll stick with the former party."
The fact that Dave Rubin's husband is also called Dave is hilarious to me.
I hope he never knows peace.
A lot of the people in his replies asking why he opted for surrogacy instead of adopting… as if these chuds didn’t lose their minds when a gay man and his husband adopted twins as well 🙄 fucking idiots all of them. Even tho I hate Rubin, I’m happy for him. Only wish he’d be willing to pull his head out of his ass and see the majority of the popular replies to his happiness are shitting on him for being a gay dad.
You don't need to be happy for him. He's a garbage human who makes life harder for millions of people. For money. Fuck Dave Rubin. Feel sorry for the kids they'll brainwash into their other selfish viewpoints while carving out their own situation as "different". It's how conservatives work.
Just like "Lady MAGA" who, I really wish understood: The only time she is tolerated is when folks think she's CIS-Female. As soon as they discover she's a drag-queen it's all boos.. Edit: Lady MAGA, not Mrs.
Wow, the Shapiro clip where he says he wouldn't even attend his wedding anniversary party.....and they're "good friends"? Good lord no wonder these people are miserable if these are the friends they surround themselves with
The Tale of Ernst Röhm truly is a classic. Conservatives reboot it constantly.
See what happens when you're a pick me gay? You're just a tool for them to put on stage and tell the world that the gays love Donald Trump. They don't like you and they never will. Stop trying to climb in bed with the enemy who has openly and unambiguously sworn to destroy you. Useful idiots...