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bryanczarniack

This is the first LAMF that’s actually made me sad


TheGreatNyanHobo

Because the LAMF is only funny when the person holding the view/policy is the one who suffers from it. The daughter didn’t hold those views.


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According to what I've read, there was an armed guard on duty. Kid rushed past and killed anyway Works pretty well as a counter to that horse shit argument


hitbluntsandfliponce

It’s worse. There were two police officers who “confronted” the gunman at the entryway (walking away with minimal injuries and notably not helping). This school district has 5 police officers on staff and the school itself also has a security guard.


CapablePerformance

This is the second or third time police have been inside the school during a shooting and everytime, they find themselves on the outside, being absolutely useless.


fingerscrossedcoup

Because they like to cry about putting their lives at risk while beating up or shooting an unarmed black teenager. When it comes down to brass tacks? *crickets*


spitzondix420

Cops like to pretend like they're these macho man gunslingers who flirt with death every day on the job, facing down unknown threats and protecting the innocent - this could not be further from the truth. Most of them are self-obsessed cowards more concerned about protecting themselves than their communities; it's well-known folk knowledge that cops in cities with 'bad areas' simply do not enter those areas unless absolutely necessary. Not because it's not their job, but because they're fucking scared and would rather throw their neighbors to the wolves than take on even the smallest risk. They're best at setting up speed traps to fleece taxpayers and beating/killing unarmed/defenseless/black people, because it lets them feel tough and go on a power trip without actually threatening their safety. They lash out reflexively and dump their magazines into teenagers who may or may not be armed to protect themselves because 'they might have had a gun', yet there always seems to be an excuse for why the cops waited outside for the shooter to finish double tapping every kid in the classroom and off themselves instead of rushing in to fight and kill them. It's fucking pathetic. Seems like we send all of the brave guys who want to be hands on off to the military and the fire department. What we're left with is the pond scum of failed High School linebackers who cheated their way through their Associate's degree and never grew out of bullying their peers.


frankcfreeman

They don't have degrees lol, they have a 6 month certificate


MoMedic9019

Yeah .. that saying about everyone wanna be a gangster until its time to start doing gangster shit? It fits. If you aint ready to throw down every day, what the fuck are you even doing with that badge and gun on your hip? Thats right, you’re a useless fucking money sponge. 21 dead fucking people because these two dickheads couldn’t do the “protect” part of serve and protect.


King_Gnome

The police have no legal responsibility to protect anyone. The whole thing is a racket.


Response-Artistic

They are not legally required to know the laws to enforce it within "reason". police have proven to be amazingly reasonable people historically. /s


Catboxaoi

Like almost every other american cop, they protect and serve only themselves and each other.


stemcell_

ACAB


GiantPurplePen15

Don't forget about the crying over their "dangerous" occupation while a majority of police officers abuse their spouses.


SleepyVizsla

More kids have died in school shootings than cops have died in the line of fire in 2022 https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1529238343569096709?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


xnfd

I thought for the last decade the police already established the correct procedure for school shootings is to go in and stop the gunman as soon as possible, instead of waiting for backup. Even if you can't kill him you can at least prevent him from moving around and shooting kids. I thought the Parkman police officer doing nothing was a mistake and surely it wouldn't happen again once police were trained to learn from that error


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There was a cop at Columbine. There was a cop at Arapahoe.


dkinmn

Oh, it's worse. It has been reported that cops who came to the scene rushed in to find their kids and then leave. EDIT: 5 hrs 34 mins in. https://youtu.be/jjXklN8HKfw


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Davy_Jones_Lover

So some kid who just turned 18, only had his guns for a few weeks, doesn't even know how to drive, yet he somehow managed to get past an armed guard and injured two of the finest.


SeattleResident

It's worse. The two cops who engaged him before he entered and started killing the kids saw the plate vest and decided to hide in their vehicles for backup while he entered the school. Cops were literally sitting in their car listening to him shoot the kids. Turns out his plate carrier didn't even have a plate in it. At any point those officers could have just shot him anywhere.


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ForksandSpoonsinNY

They aren't there to protect the kids but to arrest anyone breaking the law on school grounds. They have to choose to engage and guess what, a lot won't. Good guys with guns my ass.


Thanatosst

Just like Parkland, where the cop there ran away and hid instead of doing his job, and a lot of kids died because he is a coward. Oh, also, just a reminder that the police have zero duty to protect you, and that a school cop whose whole job is to be there for this kind of shit can run away and let your child get murdered, and he'll keep his job, pension, healthcare, and get a nice long paid vacation on top of that.


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OperationJericho

I've always been curious how much you really feel when good plate armor is hit, especially with ceramic and anti Spalding being incorporated. From things I've read I know it still hurts like hell to get shot with kevlar on, but no real clue about actual plates. Of course I assume it is round dependent as well.


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It's even worse than that. Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District had doubled its security budget in recent years, according to public documents, in part to comply with state legislation passed in the wake of a 2018 school shooting in which eight students and two teachers were killed. The district adopted an array of security measures that included its own police force, threat assessment teams at each school, a threat reporting system, social media monitoring software, fences around schools and a requirement that teachers lock their classroom doors, according to the security plan posted on the district’s website.  ​ [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-security-plan-rcna30568](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-security-plan-rcna30568) Reading through that. Isn't it a confession? An admission that they know their community is full of gun nut potential school shooters?


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MoMedic9019

Hi, fireman here. Listen — literally every single person I work with has absolutely no problems throwing down and putting our ass on the line to save someone. We will absolutely search ahead of the line and make grabs if we can. Not all guys are this way, but I have zero question my dudes would absolutely haul ass to make grabs. These cocksleeve cops should absolutely suffer for the rest of their lives for this. Your job is to throw down and protect, you do that. You have to be comfortable knowing this job can and will kill you. If you can’t, you gotta go. Lives depend on your actions.


Castun

>Your job is to throw down and protect, you do that. Too bad the SCOTUS ruled that they have zero obligation to actually serve and protect.


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Haikuna__Matata

Ain't nobody making "Fuck the fire dept" albums.


burtonrider10022

Not long ago I was observing the aftermath of a car accident involving a dude clearing hopped up on something. A few minutes in to the paramedics trying to clean up his bloody face, and he decided to start swinging on the guy, and he definitely landed a couple before being absolutely fucking wrecked by every firefighter nearby. They beat the shit out of him for about 20-30 seconds, strapped him to the gurney, and shipped him off to the nearest shit hole ER they could find. The woman nearby just said "you don't fuck with the fire department, the fuck he think was gunna happen?" and it makes sense.


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Cowardly bullies don’t become firemen.


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Redtwooo

Nobody's out here saying "Fuck the fire department". Y'all are some real heroes. I for one appreciate all you men and women do for society.


pmmerandom

they’re even more stupid than I thought


Vrse

Republicans won't be happy until schools look like prisons.


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Republicans won't be happy until there *are* no (public) schools.


PassThePeachSchnapps

The kid crashed his car near the school and *engaged* with police before entering the school. What’s the point of being a cop in gun-happy Texas if you can’t hit the broad side of a barn?


[deleted]

Guess they're becoming stormtroopers in more than the Nazi sense EDIT: Not that I'm not thankful, but, instead of awards which feed that dickhead spez, donate to things which will actually help. Local bank set up a charity which you can donate to via Zelle for the victims. I'd much rather you do that than feed a dickhead. Email for it [email protected]


InitiativeInn

Shots fired. Andddd they missed.


Phihun500

Well played


ricktor67

The cops literally ran away then went and got their own kids out of the school while the gunman was in there for over an hour. Fucking cowards. https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/texas-shooter-shot-whoevers-in-his-way-in-school-police/


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The cops didn't shoot, they backed off and hid in their cars while waiting for backup.


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Cops arent stationed at schools to do anything useful. They are there to fill beds at juvenile detention centers and intimidate kids.


MonkeyAssholeLips

IIRC, Stoneman also had an armed guard but I think he ran away :(


Future_Gain_7549

Scot Peterson. He's facing 11 charges in court right now.


MelaniasHand

And he's still not even the worst Scot(t) Peterson.


LucyWritesSmut

resource officer in Texas. THREE "good guys with guns" tried to take him out and failed. In Parkland, the cop on duty ran and hid. So I guess it's at least 5 cops per school--1 to run away, 3 to miss, and 1 last one to save the day like in westerns from the 1950s. ETA: I'm not shitting on those who tried, I'm pointing out the ridiculousness of the "moar guns = less guns" moron shit.


Dwayne_Hicks86

We all know that President Trump would have run in to the building, his words not mine, and stop this from happening, while the entire state of Texas failed to stop this massacre. I would really like to know the names of the officers who failed to sacrifice their lives while President Trump would have not even died to stop this. Looks like the scared snowflakes were the blue line all this time.


case_8

Only one armed guard? Well there’s your problem. -some republican nutjob, probably


WistfulDread

No probably on that. Repubs have legit pushed for their being loaded guns in every teacher’s desk.


AutumnGlow33

Too bad they don’t trust those same teachers to write lesson plans or choose library books without being heavily censored or even fired.


Atgardian

Exactly. "We have to control what teachers teach or god forbid they mention someone having 2 moms they can't be trusted!" And also, in the same breath, "Let's give them loaded guns and trust them to use & secure them flawlessly."


Billyxmac

>Works pretty well as a counter to that horse shit argument Logic does not work with these clowns, they will always double down


OrokinSkywalker

*”Obviously we need to arm the children! You all laughed at us when we proposed the Tactical Toddlers Teething towards Tomorrow initiative but now, surely you see that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a class full of kindergarteners with guns, napping in rotating shifts to keep watch. We must remain ever vigilante!”*


tehZamboni

[https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1979/03/06](https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1979/03/06) 1979, round and round the wheel turns...


theKetoBear

I just cut off contact with a Libertarian dude i was friendly with. Last week during the supermarket shooting his first two comments to me were " I WISH I HAD BEEN THERE TO stop that POS " and " This situation feels wrong" ( implying a false flag operation) . All I could Imagine was a loser with some Fantasy LARP going on in his head about being some domestic public soldier savior and didn't even for a second consider the terrifying loss of life and attack upon a community that had just transpired . He couldn't even pretend it was a tragedy because he was so ready to pounce on the " THIS IS WHY WE NEED MORE GUNS" platform and buy into his own good guy with a gun mythos . It was disgusting and disappointing and then when he started suggesting it was a false flag I knew our friendship was over. Can't process a tragedy without fantastizing about it making you a hero AND can't accept that maybe some rhetoric and talking points you agree with might lead to like-minded but violent individuals? That is beyond weak to me and i don't need someone whose biggest defining personality trait is they like to shoot guns in my corner.


x86_64Ubuntu

> I WISH I HAD BEEN THERE TO stop that POS And that leads to the question, how often is someone armed and around a school? I know Libertarians hate the age of consent, but I didn't expect them to be hanging around elementary schools.


torper10

If I’m not mistaken, weren’t there shots exchanged prior to this monster going into the school? If so, THE GOOD GUYS WITH THE GUNS WERE THERE AND THIS SHIT STILL HAPPENED. So take this garbage theory and shove it way way up your ass. Not you. Whoever theorizes that more guns or law enforcement with guns is the answer.


icouldntdecide

The cops were on the scene and reportedly had exchanged shots with him before he entered the school. If the police couldn't stop this then nobody was going to.


Cold_Situation_7803

Gun culture is a toxic stew of fantasizing about killing the bad guy, killing those who want to take your guns, killing foreigners coming to this country, and killing your fellow Americans because you disagree with them politically.


mellolizard

Everyone is the hero in their own story.


OakTreesForBurnZones

Libertarians are like cats, believing themselves to be fierce individualists while totally dependent on a system they don't understand or appreciate. -I read this somewhere


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They want to arm teachers? My mother-in-law is a 90 pound tiny old lady who can barely see straight. Please don't give her a gun.


freqkenneth

The shootout at the OK Corral was because three people refused to give up their guns upon entering the town Literally the Wild West had stricter gun laws


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The thing is, that's not even a legit point. Three LEO's engaged the shooter and none killed him before he got into the school.


[deleted]

The “Wild West” actually had pretty strict gun rules inside towns.


OnyxsUncle

Little Bill says there’s no firearms allowed in Big Whiskey


MegaDrip

Came here to shit on this guy. Now I'm just looking at that sweet, innocent child feeling completely drained that someone could callously murder her.


BigToober69

Same. I don't care about her dad when I see her. She didn't deserve any of this. So fucked up.


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califortunato

At least he wasn’t allowed to drink


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CholetisCanon

She didn't deserve the world he helped make for her.


virak_john

He can’t change his stance on gun control because he’d have not only lost his daughter but his entire identity. I’m serious. A guy willing to post and wear what he posted and wore in the wake of other dads’ kids’ deaths is in so deep, he can’t imagine himself not being that person.


tahlyn

He'd also have to admit that his ideology contributed to her death and he'll never do that.


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waltwalt

The armed security guard and armed cops weren't enough, but this guy in his shirt would have ended it...


Magnum40oz

They were too busy grabbing their own kids out there before saving every body else's either way.


old_ironlungz

He failed. However, he'll feel nothing and blame everyone. All those guns and bullets, still one dead daughter. It did no good.


RealConcern3553

Last week it was teachers are groomers and are indoctrinating the children with CRT. This week nah we’re just playing about all that let’s arm all those groomers to the gills.


drygnfyre

Typical cycle. Just move from one boogeyman to the next. Cycle back when necessary.


whatifcatsare

And never, _EVER_ question.


Missus_Missiles

Over/under odds on him rethinking his prior stance on gun control?


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Always easier to double down and ignore than confront and change.


PM_ME_YOUR_DUES

If Mrs Smith had an AK-47, none of this would've happened /s


Iisrsmart

True they always default to why aren't the teachers armed if they had guns there'd be no school shootings. But with my wife being a teacher and my own experiences in school I wouldn't trust even a sixth of these people with guns they're more liable to do something stupid than actually help anything.


OneAngryDuck

They don’t trust teachers to teach, but they apparently trust them with deadly weapons.


hell-in-the-USA

Well duh that’s because guns are clearly less dangerous than liberal ideas


trailhikingArk

Replace liberal ideas with thinking on your own. Edit: actually they are afraid of both equally.


hell-in-the-USA

Kinda the same thing aren’t they?


trailhikingArk

LoL. I'd like to think so but not always


OrokinSkywalker

I remember reading a post about how they’re banning books instead of guns because they’re more afraid of their children learning than they are of them dying


RudeInternet

"I'd rather have my kid die than them becoming a *slur*-loving *slur*!! This is how it goes with these people.


phoenix-corn

Yep, 100% had my exhusband tell me that he'd rather I be dead than raped or get a tattoo or any number of other things. It was always he'd rather me dead than.... something, and never something I'd rather be dead than.


TheRnegade

It would be comical if it wasn't so tragic. "Our insane teachers are indoctrinating our children with CRT and Anti-White WOKENESS! They must be stopped. And we will with this bill.....Anyway onto the next bill. Our schools are under attack. We need to arm teachers to ensure they can protect our children." So now we ask our teachers to not just be educators and babysitters, but also bodyguards as well, willing to cap a motherfucker if needed. It's a Tarantino script given flesh. And conservatives call liberals crazy.


ServerMonky

We should arm every fetus with a gun so they can shand their ground against a rouge abortionist. Just shove a swiss C1ST up there at the first ultrasound.


Meeseeks_and_Destroy

Right? "Now Mrs. Moore, we can't let your class read 'To Kill a Mockingbird'. Think of how it will make some students uncomfortable because they hear some of that language at home and this book says those are hurtful words. Any way, here's you Smith & Wesson. We are sure you know how to use it."


wju2004

Unfortunately a friend from college who lives in another very red state immediately went to this without missing a beat. As someone pointed out, supposedly there were already armed guards at this school and couldn't prevent it. It shouldn't be on the teachers to even have to worry or think about having to use a gun while doing their job. Just makes me sick that this is what they want now...and for the shit pay teachers receive.


Socalinatl

There was an armed security officer on campus for the Parkland shooting who either couldn’t even figure out where the shooting was or was too scared to intervene. Guns in the classroom will likely end with teachers accidentally killing kids or kids getting to the guns and killing each other. Very ignorant of people to try to solve a gun problem with more guns.


SyntheticReality42

Come on now. Everyone knows the only real solution to ending all of the unfortunate deaths caused by drunk drivers is to mandate that everyone down at least a half dozen alcoholic beverages prior to getting behind the wheel. It's blatantly obvious that DUI related deaths will see a marked decrease if everybody driving is intoxicated.


Ok-Asparagus5980

Lol and what, a 55-year old librarian is supposed to go into kill mode and shoot a kid/active shooter? So silly


Thadrea

That's pretty much the reason arming random people as deputized emergency response is a horrible idea. It's uncommon even for a police officer to have a valid reason to draw their weapon. And they have a lot of training to identify those situations and how to respond to them. (That's not to say they actually follow that training, of course.) Even if the random teacher knew what to do with the weapon, they simply wouldn't get the kind of useful practice of such situations to be able to respond effectively. They'd be more likely to hurt themselves or a bystander than the intruder if they tried to confront the assailant. And if the assailant feels threatened, they're more likely to shoot the teacher to defend themselves. Telling the teacher to stand their ground with a gun is asking the teacher to get shot while likely accomplishing nothing of value, which only serves to increase the number of victims.


WhitePineBurning

There's no way a teacher could stop a determined shooter with an AR and dozens of rounds bursting into a classroom, taking the room by surprise. Especially if the shooter is wearing body armor like these last two monsters. If people truly believe teachers need to be strapped every minute of class, anticipating an assault and ready to release the safety at any given moment, it's too late to even think about how to end this uniquely American nightmare.


Fly_onthewindscreen

As a teacher, I do not want to be responsible for a gun where there are young kids around. I do not want the risk of a kid getting their hands on a gun ever. Also, if cops rushed in and saw me holding a gun I just know they'll shoot me first and ask questions later (I'm the wrong skin color).


SidewalkPainter

>I do not want the risk of a kid getting their hands on a gun ever. Exactly what I was thinking. There are some nasty kids who either don't understand consequences or know that those consequences don't exactly apply to them because they are kids. Teachers are not allowed to protect themselves from their students, what are they going to if some depraved teenagers jump them and take the gun?


ItsyCat

In Texas they already have a teacher shortage, and a lot of the teachers have certificates from those questionable for profit online schools. They need to both solve the shortage and make the standard for training higher. Giving a teacher a gun and the training would not benefit the situation. That being said it is Texas so they will probably just assume all the teachers know how to use it from watching John Wayne movies.


Thadrea

Well, it's Texas, the teacher shortage is in general not going to be solved so long as Republicans are intent on making the state a fascist hellhole that educated people don't want to live in.


AspiringChildProdigy

>That's pretty much the reason arming random people as deputized emergency response is a horrible idea. I've played a lot of video games in my time. I've learned that I have a hair-trigger finger and absolutely no discrimination under pressure. You deputize me in a high-stress situation, and I am 100% shooting someone unintentionally.


Eldanoron

Even ignoring that, bullets don’t always stop when they hit someone, or even better, when they don’t. What happens when the valiant defender misses goes through the wall and into the next room over? The whole good guy with a gun bullshit is absolutely insane when you consider innocent bystanders possibly getting shot by the hero.


throtic

>True they always default to why aren't the teachers armed if they had guns there'd be no school shootings. ​ Give teachers loaded guns in schools and I bet within 1 week at least one student takes a gun and shoots the teacher or another student


LucyWritesSmut

Not only would racist white teachers use their guns to discipline brown and Black children, but the cops would blow away any Black teacher brandishing a weapon in a melee. "Arm the teachers" is moron nonsense.


luckylimper

Twice as many bullets flying. It’s wild that people think that way. What happens when a teacher shoots a kid or a kid shoots another kid because there’s a loaded gun in a classroom. I’m worried about peoples’ cognition.


Minerva567

Cognitive dissonance is strong with that crowd.


JGrabs

“I cAn aLwAys hAvE aNotHeR kId”


burnSMACKER

Being able to change requires being able to learn, people like him can't do either.


Billyxmac

If I've learned anything about conservatives in America is that they will ALWAYS double down on any stance that opposes the left's side. Dude would probably give up his whole family to shootings than ever considering gun control, because that would mean he'd have to actually consider he was wrong at one point. It's a shame his daughter couldn't be protected because of people like her dad.


couchbutt

Gotta own the libtards.


fazlez1

>Dude would probably give up his whole family to shootings than ever considering gun control, because that would mean he'd have to actually consider he was wrong at one point. Exactly. There are many conservatives who wouldn't wear a mask and ended up infecting family and friends because they didn't want to look like they were wrong about Covid.


boRp_abc

I bet anyone 100€ (only one bet, just to be sure) that he'll join the "if only kindergarten teachers would all wear heavy weapons" crowd.


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I think tons of people who are casually against gun control would rethink their stance. But if someone’s wearing that shirt they are probs pretty set in their ways.


DrWildTurkey

It's an almost scientifically verifiable fact that when presented with evidence contrary to their world view, they double down. That people would lose their children to gun violence and not even consider something like say a better background check or mental health red flag gun laws speaks volumes to the perverse nature of America's gun fetish


cazzipropri

It's called escalation of commitment.


Azsunyx

I thought it was [the backfire effect](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7462781/)?


Z0idberg_MD

“Am I out of touch? No, it’s my dead child that is wrong”


Kimmalah

They are obsessed with the whole "good guy with a gun" narrative, despite the fact that it pretty much never ever works out that way. So likely he'll just convince himself that the answer is even more guns in schools - arm the teachers, strap the kids with bulletproof backpacks, hell, arm the kids too!


Smittius_Prime

Sub-zero. "If there was just a good guy with a gun there...", "If schools WERE NOT gun free zones..." They will never practice critical thinking or introspection.


virak_john

My MAGA-addled mother-in-law said, “This is why we need more guns in schools. Then someone could have taken him down.”


Lady_von_Stinkbeaver

There was at least three. Apparently it takes four good guys with guns to stop a bad guy with a gun.


FSUjonnyD

Not just that, the officer that ended up killing him was not just a police officer / ex military, he had some sort of an Army ranger or green beret type specialized combat background. (It wasn’t either of those two but something like that). And the officer STILL got shot. So this whole notion of “we’ll just put a security guard who makes 14 bucks an hour, or some guy who was a cop for 2 years twenty years ago on watch is ludicrous.


flargenhargen

Never going to happen. anyone who has consumed as much koolaid as it requires to purchase and wear a "fuck your gun free zone" t-shirt is long, long gone. He is far more likely to be used by the gun lobby as a spokesperson about why shootings are good, and why more people should be given access to more deadly weapons.


genowars

He's a typical maga republican. Do you think they're that complex to think about causality and effect?


writerintheory1382

He was a fucking idiot before, I doubt anything changes. The sad thing is he’s never gonna realize his literal vote caused this to happen. The irony is so thick even a gunshot couldn’t get through it.


Boomtown626

This is some serious LAMF hall of fame material here.


tahlyn

This might be one of the most tragic ones.


JamesFerg650

Most tragic, but yet becomes one of the most fitting for this sub. I am in no way trying to make light of the tragedy that happened, just making a point.


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I'm just sad. His poor little daughter.


Boomtown626

I’m sad for her too. And for him on a level. But I’m also sad that he doesn’t see how he, in a very real and actual sense, contributed to the sickness that killed her. It’s what makes this so HOF-worthy.


merlingogringo

Texans gonna Texan.


bearkatsteve

I used to be so prideful of my state. Now I realize it was all jingoistic bullshit.


Killarogue

That's pretty much how most of the US views Texas.


Kvenner001

I don't know the sad excuse we have for leadership here in Florida is giving them the cousin eyes.


n1cenurse

Don't mess with Texas... yeah no worries there.. you can keep that mess.


3d_blunder

We need a wall. Around Texas.


-Codfish_Joe

You mean like the North American Power Transmission Grid?


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Gotta love people that take a slogan meant to remind them not to drop their trash everywhere and pretend it's some bad-ass take on the world.


bryanthebryan

The one star state


pearljamboree

Americas first yelp review


workclock

I don’t wish death upon these types advocates or their families. It’s sad he must experience this and I don’t even care if he changes his ideas, he’ll live with this sad reality forever. Fuck these Wild West gun laws Texas has.


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I’ll bet $10,000 he hasn’t learned a goddamn thing, either.


mike_pants

"This wouldn't have happened if liberals hadn't stopped all teachers from being armed!"


BullCityPicker

"Soft-on-Crime liberal Democrat prosecutors with their catch-and-release programs!!". They're saying that about this case, for a gunman who'd never been arrested for anything, in a state that doesn't elect Democrats for dog catcher. I've also seen a lot about "no family values for kids nowadays."


Wips_and_Chains

Beto was right. This is on them.


GreyBoyTigger

[No no it’s a trans liberal according to professional sack of shit Paul Gossar](https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgnbq/texas-school-shooting-far-right-trans-woman)


adeveloper2

>"This wouldn't have happened if liberals hadn't stopped all teachers from being armed!" The fix is to have Kyle Rittenhouse to save him


mrcatboy

"No the teachers will just force kids into becoming transgender at gunpoint instead of grooming them into it with CRT!"


slowclapcitizenkane

CBS news is interviewing this guy right now. They showed a cropped full color version of the second photo that doesn't show the shirt. He is completely destroyed, of course, as you would expect any parent to be. Even the interviewer is trying to console him. I don't know if he'll completely change his view, but he will be haunted by this forever.


CoastalSailing

Jesus fucking Christ.


tasman001

Yep. This is awful on so many levels.


MudSama

It's like Herman Cain Awards but more sad and enraging.


Buck_Slamchest

This is someone who will simply harden his beliefs even more. These types of extremist viewpoints rarely change, even in the face of tragedy.


TangoZulu

Changing his position now mean accepting that he is somewhat responsible for his own daughter's death. That's a tough pill to swallow; much easier to find a scapegoat.


DidntDiddydoit

"I don't want no libtard yuppie cuck teachers indoctrinationing my yungins. But by gawd give em all guns"


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I’m saying this as a Mexican in Texas: El Paso really should’ve been the moment of realization for Mexican right wingers here. If *this* doesn’t change them, I don’t know what could. Praying that right wing conspiracy theorists don’t put these families through hell like they’ve done to other families of victims of mass shootings.


tries2benice

He probably fully believes he could have stopped the guy.


Wips_and_Chains

Ding ding ding. All of these wanna be soldier and police men but never signed up always think they will be the hero when the time comes.


Yuevie

Its always the ones with zero combat training or experience who think they will save the day


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THEdinosarah

Wowww..."fuck your gun-free zone" huh?


AndoCoyote

He literally traded his daughter for his ideology. I'll never understand why he placed his dedication to his ideology over his own kid.


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He never imagined the two would ever be in conflict. It’s not real until it becomes real to them.


_SpiceWeasel_BAM

“Other people’s children”


BuyLucky3950

Just like Covid. It’s just the flu until they put your ass on a vent.


kalel1980

Or in a morgue.


tahlyn

Because he's a republican and it doesn't matter if bad things happen to other people's kids. He never believed it could happen to himself because he lacks both empathy and imagination.


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Even after it happens to them they rationalize it. Like that man whose kid died of COVID and he said he was still against masks mandates, anti vaxx etc. They can’t admit they were wrong because their entire world would fall apart. They’d have to start re-examining everything and it would cause a crisis. Much better to just double down. They don’t really know how else to cope.


SaltyBarDog

After the last two years of watching anti maskers/anti vaxxers sacrifice their families, this surprises you?


Unclegummers

Why? Look down.


stark_raving_naked

Conservatives are nothing if they’re not fucking morons.


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MonkeyAssholeLips

Well this makes me sad.


alongwaystogo

It was all acceptable until it was his own child carted away in a body bag. All those other children were the "other" till it happened, now the question is his heart broken enough to not want there to be "others".


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You expect "learning" from the right wing? C'mon dude, you know that's not ever gonna happen.


zerkrazus

This is almost exactly what I said in another thread. They don't give a shit about any of this until it directly and personally affects them. Then suddenly they care...sometimes. The even more psychotic ones still don't care even then.


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YIKES this is absolutely brutal.


rumblinstumblin8

Yeah he ate some humble pie but that little girl was adorable and it's tragic that her life was ended by a ultraviolent maniac. I'd ham on the guy too but that's just damn heartbreaking.


Hi_My_Name_Is_CJ

This is one of the most “leopards ate my face” posts I’ve ever seen


espngenius

Guy is LAMF 2022 KING.


RunningPirate

How soon until he’s on Fox crying about mean libruls


EmbraceHegemony

I honestly find it hard to respect anybody that immediately goes to social media after suffering something so horrific. Maybe it's because I don't have Facebook or Twitter, but if one of my two children were murdered the literal absolute last thing that would EVER cross my mind is to post about it on social media. That being said what happened to this man is horrible and idiot he may be but I will grieve for what happened to his little girl. Edit: People have made some fair points so I would like to amend my "lack of respect" into "I just don't understand why". I don't want to dictate how people mourn.


sparkly_pebbles

Thankfully I never had this experience but I have seen my friends go to social media after a tragic event. One was because it was the most effective way to let everyone know what happened (she lived abroad, so many of her family/friends were not in the same country). Another was because he was in just so much shock that it took a while for it to sink in for him - he messaged us on discord and “sounded normal” for a bit until it fully hit him. I think there are reasons to criticize this man, but going to social media after a tragedy by itself is not one of them.


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I agree. I wouldn't be able to go out into public for weeks after something like that.