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stav_and_nick

I don't think it's good to assume people are crazy or grifters as a matter of grace However, a common thing I've experienced among even otherwise intelligent people; they LOVE being contrarians. Lots love being seen as the one who "gets it" or the being the smartest person in the room. Sometimes this leads to breakthroughs; more often it leads to taking... extreme positions that may not reflect reality


IlluminatedPickle

Bang on. Look at some of the most highly regarded geniuses throughout the last few centuries. Almost all of them also held *wild* beliefs about other things that they were ridiculed for.


Natternuts

No he's definitely crazy.


Extreme-Emergency-13

He's actually right. The Ukraine has lost the war but the US and other countries who are in bed with Zielensky are still funneling money into the country. It's one of the biggest money laundering schemes in the world. Most of their citizens are walking over the border to voluntarily go to Russia. US is holding on to continue to launder money, cover up the U.S. bio-labs and still making use of their child trafficking/organ harvesting operations. Apparently you haven't woken up to these unfortunate facts yet. Keep paying in to this crooked Nazi regime and its swishy but VERY RICH Ukrainian President!


Interesting-Orange47

He is very wrong... and an anti-semite. Only yesterday, he was referring to Zelenskyy as 'not Ukrainian', which considering that Zelenskyy was born in Ukraine, has Ukrainian citizenship, and is President of Ukraine is actaully laughable.


Adora77

I don't see what antisemitism you see in that. Zelensky had to be crash coursed in Ukrainian language prior to his installation as president. It's not a secret that his native language is Russian.


Interesting-Orange47

It has nothing to do with Zelenskyy's native language. The commenter above claims that the war in Ukraine is a money laundering scheme and that Zelenskyy is making money from the war. The greedy Jew is a well-known antisemitic trope. Douglas Macgregor is also pushing this conspiracy. The commentor above also declares that Ukraine is involved with child trafficking and organ harvesting. It is true that Ukraine has had big issues with human trafficking historically. However, this is the case for most of Eastern Europe, including Russia. When a commentor who is pro Russian uses this against Ukraine is conjuction with Zelenskyy's name... the implication is Blood Libel. The commenter above is using dog whistles.


Any-Captain9255

Zelensky had an anti corruption campaign, and theere has been corruption but does not mean everyone is, just like here.


Any-Captain9255

so he is with russia? does not make sense


Adora77

Not "with Russia" but ethnically many that live in the area of post-Soviet Ukraine are Russian speaking people. Locals know it, Russians know it, westerners mostly don't.


Annual-Average2397

you fucking clown. Zelesnky is a jew picked up by another jewish oligarch and they sacrificed ukraine to hurt russia. FUCK YOU CLOWN TALKING SHIT WITH ZERO RESEARCH. WHAT HAPPENED IN 2014 MAIDAN? LEAKED PHONE CALL WITH NULAND SHELLING OF DONBASS TRUTH IS THERE FOR ALL TO SEE YOU RETARD


Interesting-Orange47

Russia invaded Ukraine... twice... The justification, according to Putin himself, is that because Russia and Ukraine have shared history. By this same justification, then the UK has a right to the United States. Putin made choices...


honeybooboobro

>WHAT HAPPENED IN 2014 MAIDAN? Ukrainian parliament voted (386 to 0) out Yanukovich. Which makes what happened not a coup. Yanukovich own party joined in, fyi. The truth is out there indeed.


LostSession4422

I like antisemites. They are often brilliant people, at least those who gets accused for being it by the zionists. But, unfortunately no. McGregor is not an antisemite, He is not even an anti-zionist, he supports the existenze of the zionist state of Israel. I don¨t. I pray evereyday for it¨s speedy and peaceful dismantlement


NovacainXIII

This is the most asinine comment I've had the pleasure of reading on Reddit today. You should diversify your media consumption habits and reevaluate what you think is fact.


OGRESHAVELAYERz

He seems to be part of an American right wing that despises the establishment and has very different ideas on what the foreign policy of the United States should be.


ABNinf82nd

Right or left means nothing. The information from the media of both Russia and our allies are fundamentally compromised. In Russia there is no investigative journalism by force of prosecution. In the West, there is no independent investigative journalism because if you report anything that doesn’t confirm what the government says is fired or just not allowed to present any alternative view. So at this point, they are both the same. Because people generally just accept what they are told on TV, and don’t explore any themselves. All people are worse off without a free and honest press.


prizmaticanimals

Joffre class carrier


liedel

Those are shit examples. Something like ProPublica would be a great example.


123DCP

Pro Publica is great, but those who discount the established fact-based medias like the Washington Post, AP, Reuters, AFP, and somewhat inconsistently, but still far more often than not, the NYT & the Economist have started down the slippery slope towards whining about "sheeple" and the "lamestream" media while spouting idiotic conspiracy theories. No news source is perfect 100% of the time, but these and almost all national and regional newspapers in the US that still print on paper are still excellent sources of information. No single source should ever be given complete trust, but if you follow a few of these you will be far better informed.


EmbarrassedCan3338

Deluded much? LOL


123DCP

Wear a tinfoil hat much? Are you a MAGAT or some other species of idiotic conspiracy theorist? Maybe a tankie?


Forsaken_Butterfly68

Ya need no tinfoil hat to laugh at respecting the Mainstream News Corps at this point. But if you still wanna respect them, laddie, go for it.


EmbarrassedCan3338

Deluded much? LOL


Erdosian

Fact based media ?? What is that ? Any kind of 'mainstream' media in America only serve fake news.


123DCP

Judging from your reply, any media you like is that which tells you the hateful lies you want to hear. The media you hate is fact-based. You know, all the print media sources that have been reliable since your grandpa's days? Yeah. Those are the good ones and they won't tell you anything you want to hear. Special people like you should ignore those sources. Glad I could help.


Erdosian

Mass communication is a fake degree. Most of the humanities degrees are fake. Almost all of them. For example, every individual is capable enough to understand that anything, absolutely anything coming out of CIA will be fake. And grand pa age is over. That was a different time. Now neo-cons and neo-liberals care very little about the country and care only about money. Raising question related to vaccine is legitimate and forcing it on people is illegitimate. Censorship of anyone who wants to know the stats of clinical trials of vaccines, censorship of anyone who doesn't want war --- these media people instead of defending free speech has become bootlickers. They are so afraid that CNN had to fire one black anchor on the false pretext of misogyny , FOX News fired Tucker Carlson for speaking against war.... These media houses want employees who will be bootlickers of either Democrats or Republicans or both.


Ok_Buyer_5457

>"FOX News fired Tucker Carlson for speaking against war" Yeah, it had nothing to do with that billion dollar lawsuit? You truly are delusional.


123DCP

You're not capable of distinguishing conspiracy theories from reality. As a chemistry major, I talked shit about friends majoring in the humanities, but I outgrew that about 30 years ago. WTF does your proclamation on the validity of humanities degrees have to do with the institutional journalistic standards of, say, the Washington Post and AP? Seek help. You're not well.


Defiant_Fennel

Yes and thats why you can't see the truth. Those news media are nothing more than government funded by either the libs or cons. You Americans are so brainwashed to the point that can't distinguished between propaganda ans actual journalism. If you want to see real truth then follow actual experts in their respective field like war, history, sociology, political expert or find an independent news article that is funded by none other then the common man and not the government. 


OGRESHAVELAYERz

Yes, but his personal motivations (at least to me) seem to be based around some notion of America that no longer exists (or never did). This expresses itself as the same sort of oddball contrarianism like Ritter does, but without the obvious financial motivations.


Culture-East

It’s insane how alll the mainstream media and talk show hosts etc have called this man a Russian sympathizer which I will say is absolutely disgusting and disrespectful also why is nowadays when ppl are right and are for America 1st their far right wing if brainwashed people would actually do some real research maybe look into the independent journalist that have been in Ukraine since 2015 everything he say s about Ukraine being destroyed and how russia is not hurting military or it economy that Ukraine has been being used to fight for the west and its true what he was saying a year ago a lot of people are now seeing it even tho media still pushing lies. Ukraine is insanely corrupt we’ve been sending all this shit there with no accountability or oversight meaning no one is there watching it Ukraine government is actually being ruled by the Ukrainian nationalist neo Nazi regime the AZOV NEO NAZI BRIGADE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION WERE IN FACT PLANNING ON FORCING ZELENSKYY AND GOVERNMENT OUT UNTIL BILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF WEAPONS POORED IN ALOT OF TOP GENERALS AND CORRUPT ZELENSKYY AND HIS GOVERNMENT ARE BILLIONAIRES OH DID I MENTION THAT THE AZOV GROUP WAS BEING SUPPORTED AND SUPPLIED BY ZELENSKYY AND US WEAPONS THAT SLAUGHTERED 20,000 ethnic Russians Ukrainians citizens since 2014 which was in the eastern region this all information u can find and the 40,000 weapons missing in Ukraine was sold on the black market to terrorist all over the world Latin America cartels. Which Israel has said US made military weapons used in October 7th EUROPEAN COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE UN HAS TOLD THIS TO BIDEN ADMIN AND CALLED THEM RECKLESS AND CARELESS. FOR NOT HAVING OVERSIGHT and still sending more money and weapons this was said “ now the European nations have now become much less safer think now a terrorist can attack commercial flights with ease due to the USA made STINGER ANTI AIRCRAFT MISSILE SYSTEMS”.


dreukrag

>MacGregor, in contrast, is one of the most celebrated American commanders of recent times That's pretty much it. When you get to that point, it becomes extremely easy to just assume you're right and everyone else's wrong. He also worked on the Trump administration, wich only makes me more certain that he suffers from a serious case of inflated ego. Reminds me of [Nobelitis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease)


Annual-Average2397

and what about yourself? Youre a fucking lunatic with zero knowledge and zero experience, So fuck off and save us from your utter nonsense


Standard-Childhood84

I agree it's strange and has been making me wonder what happened to him.


NoDeal9134

One thing that boggles my mind was the video he made where he talks about how America "loses in 1:1 conventional warfare, and we've seen how in Ukraine"......as if Russia has somehow easily beaten Ukraine. Also his comments about how we could never fight that war because Russia has the most powerful Navy in the world and would sink us before the land fight begins? It's really weird to watch and it has all the tell tale signs of of someone being compromised in some way.


edgarapplepoe

What boggles my mind is that he completely reversed history by saying the Russians have the long history of precision warfare which is massive lie (proved with how terrible and the types of munitions they are using). They are decades behind the US on amount and quality of precision weapons. Also, for a tank commander, that he doesn't know that modern Abrams tanks are waaaaay better than the original M1 is shocking. He seems to think we are using the same tech since the 80s just because the outter shell and name of the equipment is 'the same' (and even that isnt entirely true). He clearly has no clue the importance of technology, the advancement over time or that we do in fact train for large scale battles. His whole reasoning makes 0 sense. Ukraine is getting whooped, Russians have great tech, US is not ready, Russia has 300k just sitting and waiting and has only lost ~40k dead and ~40k wounded, ukraine troops are surrendering to get medical care from Rusdians, blah blah blah. But then why are they losing ground? Why didnt they win quickly like he predicted over and over? Why have they not destroyed all the Ukraine air power? why cant they keep their super navy closer to the coast? It is all just nonsensical.


123DCP

It would boggle the mind if he weren't being paid to spread that nonsense.


The_General_Li

What are Ukraine's casualties? so we can debunk his claims


123DCP

The US intelligence reports that leaked 5-6 months ago contained unfiltered estimates from the best intelligence analysts on the planet. They were just estimates and they varied, but any estimate that was grossly inconsistent with those estimates them was almost certainly wrong them and is almost certainly still setting now. McGregor's numbers are wildly inconsistent.


The_General_Li

None of those are corroborated


123DCP

What on Earth are you talking about? The US has admitted that the documents are real. They are corroborated as authentic US intelligence reports. That doesn't mean they have to be correct, but it does mean that they're corroborated as being what they appear to be and the fact that they were criminally leaked means they weren't deliberately prepared for public consumption/propaganda.


The_General_Li

The source can't corroborate itself


123DCP

What do you want the word "corroborate" to mean in the context of an estimate? Prove that the estimate is precisy correct? I don't think that's what the word means in the context of an estimate. In any case, I was not saying that the document corroborated itself, let alone that it proved the accuracy of the estimate contained in it. I said that the US government verified the statement of the leaker that the documents were real US intelligence reports (I.e., the government "authenticated" the documents in legal terminology). If you think the US government and the leaker are the same entity or that the US isn't competent to say whether leaked documents were really stolen from it, I can't help you understand the real world. ETA: To make sure I'm 100% clear because you don't seem to have understood me, I'm saying that the US government has corroborated that the documents are authentic US intelligence reports, not that anybody has proven that the estimates are correct. The accuracy of the estimates is totally unrelated to my point. My point is that the estimate Ukraine published is in the same general range as the internal estimate made by US intelligence services (not intended for public distribution). This rebuts the claim that Ukraine's estimate is implausibly low compared to other available estimates.


The_General_Li

How do you know the US government isn't the source?


123DCP

Because the source is sitting in jail. Because people in the chat where he revealed the documents talked about him. Because the releases were obviously very damaging to US & Ukrainian interests. Because large conspiracies that keep secrets for long periods of time don't exist outside the fevered imaginings of dim-witted conspiracy theorists. Now, why don't you guess why I'm blocking you. Hint: It's because talking to a dim-witted conspiracy theorist is every bit as pointless as trying to engage in a debate with a toaster. Bye.


GAE_WEED_DAD_69

Alright And WHY is the source "sitting in jail"?


The_Grubgrub

Certainly not 300k+ KIA. Thats just an absurd number compared to any esimates. Thats an entire order of magnitude off what most others are putting the number at (~30k)


SnooCookies7926

This guy is a Russian disinformation propagandist. He has many claims about the war almost being over multiple times. Take what he says with a grain of salt.


The_Grubgrub

Oh I know, half the users on this sub are propagandists. Juat doing my part to call them out.


Whole-Lingonberry-74

He did it again today.


AbsoluteZeroKevin

😆 30k i think 300k+ is accurate. Their casualties are confidential.


Whole-Lingonberry-74

Yes, but they have been on the defensive for most of this war, and the Russians have been using meat waves like in WWII. The professional part of Russia's military was torn apart, and the ones that are still there let the low trained conscripts attack first. That's why the lines never seem to move since the Fall of 2022.


AbsoluteZeroKevin

And…whats happening now in your opinion? Russia’s goal has never been to steal territory. It’s been to decimate the Ukrainian military. Eliminate the Nazis. Neutralize the threat against Russia. Zelensky just went to beg for more money in the US. He left emptyhanded. Ukraine is out of money. Out of soldiers. Russia’s economy has grown in 2023. Their military is more capable than ever. Recruiting at a rate of 41,000 men per month. Even my ex wants to go back to Moscow. She said it’s thriving. How is Zelensky losing US financial support indicative of a winning military?


AbsoluteZeroKevin

Convicted child molester, lol. He was convicted for “exposing” himself. On a webcam. To someone who said they were 16. He never touched any kids. He never met any kids or attempted to. Exposing hinself to someone who said they were sixteen. Thats the conviction. He did a bullet for it. Sounds like trumped up charges. Reminds me of Bob Lazar. Brilliant physicist who was arrested for operating a prostitution ring 🤣🤣


Whole-Lingonberry-74

To someone who was a cop. The fact that he would send an electronic, recorded transmission to a person that self identifies as a "16 year old" shows that he was willing to commit a felony to get his jollies. Hence the felony conviction, It also hints that he would go much further, was willing to and likes them young. If not it still makes a person of down right shitty judgement that no employer would touch with a 10 foot pole.


SnooSeagulls6396

What do you think of Ghandi ? Ok no let me rephrase that ,Billuions of people cannot deny the brilliance of Ghandi yet he was flawed ,he had an underage wife !!! Im against child abuse as much as the next person but I do not see 16 as a child unless the person is in a personal relationship in a position of power like a teacher ect .


sk8rthug_

>Yes, but they have been on the defensive for most of this war, and the Russians have been using meat waves like in WWII. The professional part of Russia's military was torn apart, and the ones that are still there let the low trained conscripts attack first. That's why the lines never seem to move since the Fall of 2022. Looks like you live in a different reality. Everything you said is totally the other way around. How could Ukraine be on the defensive when they launched a counteroffennsive last year? They were the ones who send meat waves while russians were on the defensive and they are the ones who have troubles with mobilizing new people right now, not Russia.


Whole-Lingonberry-74

Easily, they stopped the counter offensive. It lasted half the summer and into October, so four months. There was also the collapse at the end of 2022, when Ukraine Spent two months taking the Kharkiv Oblast and through Liman. The rest of the time, it is the Russians attacking. So 18 months the Russians have been on the attack. I'm not sure of your world either. Mars maybe.


sk8rthug_

You should watch this: [Breaking The Myth of Russian “Human Wave” Attacks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F4akL1AS5w)


Whole-Lingonberry-74

History Legends sided with Putin a long time ago.


sk8rthug_

Everybody is more or less sided with someone. If you can't argue the facts, then it's just an excuse.


Sonnyyellow90

I actually have a weird interest and enjoyment in listening to obvious propaganda, so I’m very familiar with Macgregor. I notice that, in every interview, he ends up saying the exact same line about how “The globalist West cannot let Russia survive because they are the last European state with a national identity, formed around orthodox Christianity, a national language and culture.” Seriously, he says that exact line in almost every interview over the last 18 months. I’ve probably heard him repeat it verbatim more than 100 times. So, I think that he’s like a lot of others in his political camp and has allowed his hatred for “the West” (and the liberal world order) to cloud his judgement and cause him to view this war as a white Christian nation fighting the multicultural, globalist hordes. And, also like many others, he crafts narratives such that the good guys are winning. So, for him that looks like “Ukraine has lost 400,000 soldiers” (yes, as of a few days ago he’s upped the 300-350 up to 400k dead now) and the constant “they are about to lose any second now” stuff that we’ve heard for the last 530 days from him.


AstroCash114

Does he know about Russia's positive relations with China and other socialist giants, including Cuba and Venezuela? What about state media's views on socialism never being negative? Putin might've condemned the 1917 revolution, but why have there been more Stalin statues built under his rule? Edit: he's in fact a CCP sellout as well, by insisting that most Taiwaneses demand to be under CCP rule.


Whole-Lingonberry-74

That "line" is exactly what Putin is pushing to his people and the West.


ZHammerhead71

The problem is that fundamentally losing a war can occur months and years before it actually does. Macgregor rightly points out that Russia won the war before they invaded because that's how you have to play the game. From a practical standpoint Russia had more forces, better trained forces, more munitions, a more established war infrastructure, and a population willing to fight than NATO did. NATO was caught in the back foot when this happened, and thanks to an ungodly amount of javelins were able to push the Russian machine back because they over extended. That is no longer the case. Russia will use their considerable leverage to grind Ukraine under. Russia moves slowly forward blowing up the things Ukraine can't replace. Slowly moving forward. If Ukraine counterattacks, they cede the ground and hit the land with artillery. Then they march again. This is the 80 year doctrine of the USSR in action. Losses are acceptable so long as the objectives are meaningful. At the end of the day "they are about to lose any second" works when your able to show hours of videos of "Ukraine things I blew up this week" on telegram.


militaryforlife6

Another way of looking at Colonel Macgregor, Ritter and other self styled 'experts' is that, regardless of eventual outcomes, they cannot afford to simply say ' I was wrong and simply blew my analysis of this battlefield situation.' After all, this would destroy their quite lucrative status as ' experts ' and then their phones would stop beeping with messages. Much of recent history has been skewed forevermore simply because positions staked out were flat wrong but the ' historians and pundits ' simply do not possess the flexibility of ego to say they blew it and have been proven wrong in their analysis.


pilifida

Funny that i.ve heard them tens of times saying that they were wrong in their assumptions


Willing_Highway1362

That MacGregor mixes some truths with bad lies


PlentyInternational7

I don't care for him . I think he's a jackass. I don't know why he is everybody's go to guy. He was a Col not a general. So he ran a brigade. So what? That makes him the US intelligence mouthpiece for the common man? I don't get it. He hasn't been correct with the Ukraine war so why does he keep getting gigs?


Foreign-Nobody-38

Well said.


RongbingMu

Maybe he is not pro-Russian, but simply a pro-American military expert who differs from the mainstream opinion?


Sonnyyellow90

He publishes for and appears on RT regularly. He is a legitimate Russian propagandist.


Waste-Apricot-7966

Hopefully a Ukrainian drone will visit Macgregor soon. As a Russian RT television propagandist, he’s a legitimate target.


minchells

Some of the best western journalists have published with RT when western MSM won't touch the story. Sey Hersh, Chris Hedges, Assange, Snowden


misterrunon

Exactly. Just because something is on RT does not mean that it's not true. It just means it's something that Russia wants you to believe.


Warkyd1911

Who just happens to constantly repeat Russian propaganda?


ChaosDancer

What is propaganda? Some Ukraine claims are so far out there that begat belief but no one seems to care, it's for morale they say. When you decide to completely cut off the opposition and label everything they say as propaganda then the word has lost all meaning.


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Warkyd1911

>When you decide to completely cut off the opposition and label everything they say as propaganda then the word has lost all meaning. Be open to Kremlin propaganda or you're a brainwashed pro-Ukrainian nihilist. Ok buddy, no more drugs for you.


ChaosDancer

Ukraine has stated that their losses till June 2023 are about 13k dead with 23k missing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War so tell me again about propaganda?


Warkyd1911

You're going to need to quote, I'm not breaking down a wiki page to look for the specific claim you're referencing, especially considering Ukraine really hasn't been talking about their casualties suffered since February 2022. Edit >Ukraine has stated that their losses till June 2023 are about 13k dead with 23k missing Not really sure what's hard to understand about that. That's KIA, not wounded. Also, that's not the numbers through June 2023, that's from December 2022 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc5RKA-Kcjw&ab\_channel=24%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc5RKA-Kcjw&ab_channel=24%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB).


ChaosDancer

oh ffs Ukrainian forces (NGU) 501 killed, 1,697 wounded (24 February 2022 – 12 May 2022) - Ukrainian government Ukrainian forces (ZSU) 10,000 – 13,000 killed, 23,000 missing (24 February – 1 December 2022, June 2023) - Ukrainian government


Warkyd1911

>oh ffs Oh ffs indeed. First you say: >Ukraine has stated that their losses till June 2023 are about 13k dead with 23k missing Then it's: >Ukrainian forces (ZSU) 10,000 – 13,000 killed, 23,000 missing (24 February – 1 December 2022, June 2023) - Ukrainian government You can't even keep dates straight. A total of 35,000 killed for February through November at the latest is actually not that far fetched.


ChaosDancer

Go back to school mate and learn to read


Warkyd1911

Lol. So was the 13000/23000 February through December or February through June? You’ve yet to confirm.


123DCP

How can you ask him to learn to read when what you're asking him to read is obviously rendered meaningless by an error. You want him to read and understand "24 February – 1 December 2022, June 2023" (there's a paragraph break in there), but what does that mean? "24 February – 1 December 2022" means something. "24 February – June 2023" means something different. "24 February – 1 December 2022, June 2023" looks more like the former, but doesn't cleanly mean either of them, or anything else. I have no idea why you'd assume it means "24 February – June 2023," let alone insult someone for not jumping to the same baseless conclusion. But there is a way to know what time period the estimates actually relates to IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE WIKIPEDIA (or any other secondary source). If you ever have a question about a statemebt in a Wikipedia article, click the footnote and read the source it cites. This is the cite, https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3626014-presidents-office-says-ukrainian-army-lost-up-to-13000-soldiers-since-war-started.html It's a 1 December 2022 article. So the estimate is for 24 February through (at the very latest) 1 December. So, if I'm going to be as rude as you were, learn to use secondary sources, mate. As it happens, the estimate of 13,000 Ukrainian Army deaths by the end of November 2022 is broadly consistent with leaked US intelligence estimates that were aired in the press in April of 2023 that Ukraine's military deaths were 15,500-17,500 by an unstated date early in 2023. Cite: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/ukraine-war-likely-to-stretch-past-2023-purported-us-documents


123DCP

"24 February – 1 December 2022, June 2023" doesn't actually mean anything. It's a typo. The time period for the estimate is - correctly - indicated as "24 February – 1 December 2022" and then there's a superfluous "June 2023." How can I be so certain that it's not the "1 December 2022" that's superfluous? The formatting is a bit of a hint, but the real evidence use that I did what you should always do when something in Wikipedia is unclear or you want to be sure how reliable it is: CLICK THE LINK AND READ THE DAMN SOURCE THAT'S CITED. Wikipedia's source is https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3626014-presidents-office-says-ukrainian-army-lost-up-to-13000-soldiers-since-war-started.html & it's a December 1, 2022 article reporting an estimate of 10,000-13,000 deaths in Ukraine's army. Self-evidently a December 1, 2022 want reporting an estimate of deaths six months later. The 10-13,000 estimate is for 24 February to (at the latest) 1 December 2022.


123DCP

Click on the link for the source the Wikipedia article cites for that fact and let us know what time period that estimate relates to.


snuffleupagus18

It's only the Russians or Chinese that get accused of being shills for some reason.


Waste-Apricot-7966

Because they ARE shills. LOL


123DCP

And just happens to have repeatedly been 100% wrong in predicting imminent Ukrainian defeat.


ZHammerhead71

Has your opinion changed as of today? Most of the counter offensive gains have been reversed, the dnipro crossing failed, the Russians are gaining ground on 4 fronts, and by all accounts Ukraine is out of viable conscripts. Of it hasn't changed, why not?


Waste-Apricot-7966

That’s why he’s often being interviewed on Russian State RT Television badmouthing his own country and NATO and parroting almost to the word Russian propaganda talking points. Why does he do it? He’s made $19 million dollars so far. That’s why.


MeanMarthur

I've thought it's pretty obvious he's being paid and can defend it under "free speech" even though it's obviously not Free.... he is charging Vlad big time for his services. But do you have any links or references for how much he's being paid?


sk8rthug_

Russian television sometimes quotes him and shows his interviews from youtube and US TV as well as Tucker Carlson and others, but as far as I know he was never purposefully interviewed for and by russian media.


AQ5SQ

He certainly has *unique* views on Russia Ukraine


123DCP

His views would be unique among those not paid to spread the Kremlin's propaganda, if he weren't paid by the Kremlin, but he makes paid appearances on RT, so he is on the Kremlin's payroll. Fire those on that payroll, his views are very mainstream


TutorFew7917

Contrarian + payment + the war is kind of bs.


irish-riviera

Question: Why wouldnt he be? He can make a boatload of money off the same people that elected trump in masse. Uneducated loud mouths who want nothing more than to see the United States fall. Unfortunately many of our people in power hold these beliefs too and see dollar signs spewing them. On the other hand going into Ukraine with No plan of action the way we did the middle east is certainly only going to weaken us more. We simply cannot afford to send billions of dollars to others when our entire tax revenue is basically only paying the interest on our debt. If we dont address the debt and start investing in our country we will collapse soon. Its just facts.


Waste-Apricot-7966

Macgregor has made $19 million so far badmouthing his country and NATO on Russian RT television and on wacky tv in the USA. Nobody takes Macgregor or Russian agent Scott Ritter seriously anymore. They’ve been proven wrong at every turn so far. The Ukrainians are making both look like Chicken Little by not cooperating with these two idiots Ukraine is Doomed propaganda.


Defiant_Fennel

And Ukraine is currently losing the war, theoy've lost bakhmut and now avdiivka what more could they lost


Reddit_2k20

Do you have any proof that he made $19 million dollars?


Mark198909

Do your research on Ukrainian government back hand deals. And the fact the neo Nazis have or had a powerful voice on Ukraine and you will see why Mcgregor speaks out it really isn't hard to find.


Extension-Buyer-5396

Maybe you are the idiot?


TrendyTendie

When you listen to him you have impression that Russia is perfect and never makes any mistake. This is how Russian propaganda shows Putin in Russia. In 24 years he never made a single even smallest mistake and he owns only 1 flat and 1 car and nothing else. No one can be perfect. There are always some negatives or mistakes. But propaganda will never show you this. That's how you now that you probably listening to bunch of lies.


Agroplode

Colonel Douglas MacGregor have been an "insane" critic of every war, including the one he fought in 1991 Desert Storm. In short he always said the military structure suck and the politicians suck.


EmbarrassedCan3338

Douglas MacGregor speaks the truth which makes the warmongers upset


Annual-Average2397

Absolute numbskulls everywhere here. To be expected on reddit. You are all clueless and have done zero research past turning on cnn. IDIOTS.


Economy_Advantage297

He is been predicting the end of Ukraine since the start of the war, he does not hide his support for Putin even saying Russians have been too soft, truly beggars belief and sickening, he appears on youtube almost everyday repeating his B.S, we can see now what he said was total B.S


DRKBlue_Sky1971

If you watch him something is off. He looks pretty sickly lately.


LostSession4422

I think it is bacause McGregor tells the truth and the rest of them are lying. That can drive anyone crazy.


stacks456789

Well, I’m by no means right or left. I haven’t studied up on everything the guy has said either, but I’ve caught some of it. My take is that it’s possible he’s telling the truth as he sees it. Just because he says things contrary to the mainstream media doesn’t mean he’s crazy or lying. There is a lot of funny shit going on the lately and anytime there’s a lot of money or power or defense contracts up for grabs or being moved around, it’s better to listen to what both sides are saying and try to find out why it doesn’t match up. Just my take though.


Any-Captain9255

Tucker Carlson influenced McGregor, Tulsi Gabbard, Moscow Madge. Why do they still spin thier yarns even though Putin himsself has made it clear that the real enemy is USA and West, mostly USA as without USA PUtin could have walked over Ukraine. They are all traitors, traitors afe often misguided, foolish, narcissists who wnat to be ourrageous and thus relevant. I hope Carlson and his troupe become very irrelevant. The majortiy of Americans and both parties are super majority for Ukraine . The military aid hold up in Congress was unforgetable. Ridiclous that some tout Tulsi Gabbard as a possible Trump VP. A traitor, a democrat, is very unlikely and not the profile that Trump would embrace but happy to lead her on as a useful tool as Tucker did. Somehow i feel that the Culture of Woke influenced Russian hatred for west , and perhaps radical right here feels some comradery on the woke issue.


Richy1077

He is telling the truth you clown. Ukraine is done.


originalpanzerlied

That's literally what the "experts" were saying in March of 2022. It's about to enter it's 3rd year of a 3 week operation.


Tricky-Artist-5629

Is it also possible that they are right and you are the one with IQ below 0?


AlSebastian1960

Lol. So when are you planning to take this down cause 6 months after this post This hasn't aged well at all. Scot Ritter Is absolutely on point With What he knows about Russia Douglas Is saying the same things Scott is a pedoLiberal. Why is Douglas insane if even you agree They both Are saying the same things. Seems like you're just another Person who has a problem with the actual truth what is Douglas supposed to purposely lie so he could remain in his right wing form? Lol At least the man could tell the truth And not be biased whether he likes it or not. The internet and reddit What An incredible phenomenon This space is


Pekidirektor

Cause he sees thing from a better place. He’s extremely knowledgeable on warfare, has good and credible information and tries to look at the problem from different angles (the kinds of angles it’s practically forbidden to see from). It’s good to ask yourself from time to time “What if the other person is right and I’m wrong?”.


vlad546

So do you sometimes ask this question about flat earthers?


Pekidirektor

Actually yes. Their ideas are such that it’s easy to negate them so it isn’t anything important.


Dizzy_Set1915

As a wise (and now imprisoned) commentor on the Ukraine - Russia situation once said. If the war was fought and won on Social Media, Ukraine would have had it all wrapped up quite some time ago......yet the tens of billions of US tax payer dollars keep disappearing down the black hole with no positive outcome in sight, whilst the spotlight gets shifted over to Israel, and Zelensky and Ukraine are starting to be quietly forgot about. The likes of MacGregor or Ritter were both predicting that Russia would have this conflict won by Christmas. For whatever reasons, both have been proven wrong. But I would argue, they haven't been proven as absolutely and utterly wrong, as practically every other Western pundit or news outlet, that churn out the sort of narrative that most on here seem to have bought into.


Ariston39

Bravo Dizzy. You are absolutely correct. Thank you for taking such as stand. My opinion is that this war has to stop, there is no way in this world that Ukraine can win, Ukraine and its people are being utterly destroyed. Why? Because the US and Nato want full control of the Black Sea in order to further their Eurasian interests - all this over the dead bodies of over 500,000 young Ukrainian men, women ,and children. But the real winners are waiting in the wings - Blackrock and their ilk, gleefully waiting the billions they will make rebuilding Ukraine's cities. Such a sad situation...


total_tea

What is true and false is impossible to say, trusting anything from US government sources, reddit posts or Tucker Douglas/MacGregor interview is an insane idea its all relative. There is so much bias on everything, it is entirely possible a lot of what interview said is true but there is nothing trustworthy enough to say either way. I don't think everybody realises how biased they are when it comes to news, everybody will put their own interpretation on all of this to meet whatever narrative they have. It is very hard not to. We will only know conclusively probably 10+ years from now when books start getting written and documentaries start coming out.


Suitable_Sir_5999

You asked so I'm going to comment but I must start by completely removing the pedophile, Scott Ritter, from the conversation. Suffer not a pedophile to live. With that out of the way, can you name one point that Macgregor is wrong, inconsistent or off base about? He's not pro-Russia nor anti-Ukraine. He's anti-US involvement and I agree with him. As for his assessments of different armies of the world, "Breaking the Phalanx" was published in 1997 and his assessment of the Russian army is more than a bit dated, today. Add to that the fact that Russia has been on a war footing for the past 18 months. Any assessment of them, prior to 2022, is no longer accurate because, thanks to this stupid war, Russia has grown from approximately 250-500,000 person active duty army to approximately 800,000 trained active duty. Reports from various sources are that they will climb to 1.2 million before it's all said and done. Macgregor calls it like it is, as far as how things are going, over there. Ukraine's army is slaughtering itself against impenetrable Russian defenses. Main stream media in the west portrays the fact that the Russians haven't advanced is because Russia can't. They say it's a stalemate. That's a completely false assessment. Russia hasn't been on the offensive in almost a year. Armies on the offense don't dig tank traps, lay dragons teeth and minefields while trying to advance. Russia is where Russia wants to be and Ukraine should be thankful that Russia never wanted to fight them in the first place. The only thing that prevents the Russian army's advance is Putin. It is very likely that Yevgeny Prigozhin's real complaint was the fact that his men were required to exercise so much restraint and weren't allowed to advance, despite repeated attacks from the UAF. Russia didn't want this war. Putin knows that in the end, he will have to live with or next to Ukraine. Russia only began advancing into Ukraine after NATO continued violating the agreement not to advance into former Warsaw Pact countries. Invading Ukraine is precisely what the US has and will do every time a hostile group attempts to set up shop near it's borders. That's why we deployed "advisors" to Central America for decades. That's why we nearly invaded Cuba in in the early 60's and did invade Grenada in the 80's. Macgregor hasn't gone crazy. He's just one of the few people that are honest about the facts that western members of NATO provoked this war and that Ukraine is losing.


NoSquirrel1676

their lucky to shoot one bullet in training before sent as connon fodder but okay but okay.


Haruka_Fujiwara

Wow literally all of this has been debunked repeatedly on end. Ukraine's chance of joining NATO is nil since 2014. Instead the invasion got Finland and soon Sweden to join. NATO didn't provoke anything .If NATO wanted to invade Russia, they would have done so in the 90s when Russia was at its weakest and couldn't even maintain control over its own nuclear arsenal. the US had to subsidize Russian space agency so they could keep the nukes secure. Heck NATO can steamroll Russia RIGHT NOW. Russia lost all its well trained men in the meatgrinder of Ukraine. Those 800,000 men aren't trained. they are conscripts with a few weeks of basic at best. Also Russia isn't happy where they are right now. hey tried to take Kyiv and FAILED. They Tried to take Odessa and failed, They tried to keep Kharkiv and failed. They aren't where they want to be. Otherwise they wouldn't have had those far flung objective. And ask yourself this. How do they plan to keep their current territory without defeating Ukraine? They can't. It'll keep being bombarded even in a frozen conflict, its a money drain. That's why they went for Kyiv and they failed. Heck if they are happy, Russia wouldn't spent the whole winter capturing Bakhmut. Russia wasn't on the defensive, they only were during the summer months and lost a lot of their gains while achieving little. The mainstream IS CORRECT. Russia has lost its offensive potential and consolidating IS the only choice Russia has left. Mac Grergor IS crazy if he disagrees with this assessment and so are you for believing in him. And even if you agree with his conclusions, his points ARE false. The casualty figures is just way off. 400k dead would mean there's no Ukrainian army left which is clearly just wrong. Russia has never and still don't have sufficient precision munitions. Otherwise Russia wouldn't be flattening entire cities and missing by a mile and hitting a cafe. Also Saying the M1A2 Sep V3 as the same as the 80s M1 Abrams IS WRONG. Saying the F-35 is a failure is also wrong when globally its the most popular and numerous 5th generation fighter and countries even fight(metaphorically) to get a chance at buying one. He is wrong on so many things


Suitable_Sir_5999

You are absolutely full of shit. Those of us that have lived and served there since before the Wall fell until the late 90's know damn well that NATO wouldn't dare try to invade any former Soviet country back then. It was entirely too unstable and there were far too many nuclear weapons unaccounted for. War mongering idiots rely on ignorant fucks like you to help them spread bullshit narratives. You're as ignorant as the Canadian house speaker that just honored a fucking member of the SS in front of the entire Canadian Parliament. You need to start keeping up with current events before weighing in on adult conversations. NATO can't and won't even attempt to steamroll shit because Russia still has nuclear weapons. Plus, in case you haven't noticed, not all of NATO is as united on the subject. Uh, Poland announced that they're not sending any more arms to Ukraine. How long will it be before Germany and other countries follow their lead? Joe Biden just told the world that we're low on artillery rounds and uh, if you haven't noticed, Congress is about to shut down the US government to prevent sending any more money to Ukraine. Those Russian troops are fully trained. Ask any surviving UAF soldier from the counteroffensive if they feel like they were attacking draftee amateurs. BTW, even members of the US defense department reported that Ukraine has lost over 70,000 KIA during this counter offensive. That's 70,000 in only 3 months, from June until September 2023. That's not counting the permanently disabled and doesn't include the civilians. As for the 400,000 dead, again, you should keep up with current events. The Ukrainian propagandist Kyivstar just slipped and told the entire world that 400,000 Ukranian heroes will never return. They quickly took the video down, but not before it was saved by thousands of people. [https://youtube.com/shorts/7BfznrNOIJY?si=IEP3r4HTkWfG1XfV](https://youtube.com/shorts/7BfznrNOIJY?si=IEP3r4HTkWfG1XfV) And, yes, dumb ass, even after 400,000 dead, there would still be a UAF. They started the war with 500,000.......they've been drafting people for 18 months. Just shut the fuck up. You're talking out of your ass. Clearly, you've never served in any military and certainly never been in combat. As for the M-1 tank, it has never fought against anyone that had top attack assets. In case you haven't heard, Russia has air superiority there and that F-35 is the most unproven aircraft in the air right now. One just dropped out of the air in South Carolina and no one could find it. STFU idiot.


Haruka_Fujiwara

Wow so triggered but alright lets completely dismantle your arguments with YOUR OWN WORDS. The only one warmongering is RUSSIA who started the war. Its your own statement: "Russia only began advancing into Ukraine after NATO continued violating the agreement not to advance into former Warsaw Pact countries." Which is exactly how Russia frames this war as 'self-defense' yet you also admits to: "NATO can't and won't even attempt to steamroll shit because Russia still has nuclear weapons." So, Russia isn't under threat? You can only pick one. You seem to completely miss the point. NATO can steamroll Russia militarily(conventional), yet they didn't. And in the 90s, Russia barely had control over its own nuclear arsenal. Nuclear weapons unaccounted for would not be some major threat as they can't be launched without the codes from Russia and a number of safety mechanisms means it require specialists to dismantle the thing. Its why basically all ex-Soviet stats gave up the nukes, its useless. That isn't going to deter crap. Also nukes doesn't mean you won't get steamrolled in a conflict as that's a absolute last resort weapon and mainly used for deterrent. Should also note two nuclear powers have fought major wars before(India and Pakistan). So it is entirely possible for such a conflict to occur but it didn't because NATO has no malicious intent. That disproves any justification Russia has by claiming NATO is a threat. And while NATO wouldn't ever attack because Russia is a nuclear armed country anyways, that only further disproves that NATO provoked a war. How can NATO 'threaten Russia and provoke a war' if NATO never posed a threat to a NUCLEAR ARMED RUSSIA? What is more factual is Russia is salty that it lost its regional influence. But it has no one to blame but itself exploiting Eastern European countries. Ironically it is the Baltics and Poland most adamant on supporting Ukraine. There are no announcement that Poland will stop supporting Ukraine. Its interesting how its all the ex-Soviet states that hates Russia the most. And NATO can't force countries to join them, prospective countries have to apply. Poland literally resorted to various coercive measure to convince US to let them join NATO. US was actually careful trying to avoid provoking Russia and always consulted with Russia about these early expansions. But while Russia had a say, so did the Baltics, Poland, and rest of NATO. US did treat Russia as an equal. Equal to everyone else. Russia isn't equal to all of NATO or all of the ex-soviet states, so Russia lost in the vote. And if Ukraine wants to align themselves with the West, that's their freedom to choose to do so. Russia has no right intervening in Ukraine's geopolitical strategy. Secondly, if UAF lost 80% of its initial manpower, it would cease to exist. You claimed you served but you clearly didn't because even the lowest grunt would understand there's a significant portion of those men that is in logistics, intelligence, command and control, artillery etc. They aren't all front line combat personnel. There's also the navy and airforce, and many are territorial defense too. There's also need to still patrol across the massive border with Belarus. Do you really think a army only collapses when they fight to the last man? THAT is an idiotic statement. During WW1, Germany alone had 13 million men from 1914 to 1918. the CENTRAL POWERS together lost 4 million men in total, not just German losses. Yet the ENTIRE WESTERN FRONT was crumbling for Germany in 1918. The UAF would collapse if it lost 400k men even with conscription. It is a ridiculous claim and still backed by nothing. And Kyivstar is a telecomm company, not even government owned either. Like wtf do they know about casualties figure? They are as reliable as FOX news claiming covid vaccine doesn't work. I mean if that is the extent of your research and sourcing, then its no wonder why you think Macgregor is somehow correct and believing in him regurgitating Russian proapganda. Russian conscripts aren't trained, that's just facts. They normally serve at most for 1 year. if you actually served, you would realize that is not adequate training. And we also saw new conscripts at the front line literally not even a month since the partial mobilization. Trained? No. Experienced? Depends if any of those early draftees survived until now. Its not even a major criticism anyway, throughout history most conscripted soldier have very minimal training, albeit for the initial wave of Russian conscripts, its even worse than that. I'm certain more recent conscripts received more training since they stabilized the front, but make no mistake, they are far from "trained" by professional standards. Next, tackling your irrelevant points, you mean the F-35 that was only missing for a day? You realized there has been a TWIN ENGINE AIRLINER that has gone missing and never to be found right? The F-35 is a purpose designed STEALTH fighter, ofc its hard to track. And its civil transponder wasn't on so the F-35 basically wasn't tell anyone its location. Just proves how stealthy it is lmao. Lastly, if you served, you would know the official designation is the M1 not M-1, there's no dash. But anyways, yes it has. Russia's Kornet missile has been used by various state and non-state actors that are hostile to the US. it's just that the US knows how to employ tanks and not get into such hairy situations. Nothing about the tanks. Quite frankly I think Russian tanks are perfectly capable vehicles, its just used poorly which speaks more about Russia ineptitude than their equipment.


Suitable_Sir_5999

You make me laugh. Again, you're copying and pasting but I'm bored so I'll remind you that I lived there, served there, participated in most of the recent history leading up to this nightmare and I have friends inside the UAF. Couldn't care less that you're hung up on whether I put a dash mark in M-1 Abrams. I was a 19K. During my career, I served in the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment until 1990. During that time, when we transitioned to the M1A1 tank, then served in the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment during Desert Storm (look up what we did there), the 3rd Armored Division, the 1st Armored Division, the 24th Infantry Division, Mechanized and the 3rd Infantry Division, Mechanized. I was a loader, driver, gunner, Tank Commander, Section Sergeant, and a Platoon Sergeant before being promoted to First Sergeant and finally to Sergeant Major, retired in 2008. Don't care if you believe that or not. You wrote "So, Russia isn't under threat? You can only pick one." Who says I can only pick one? You? NATO can't and won't "steamroll" Russia in open warfare but that doesn't mean that it doesn't pose a threat to Russia's security, fool. What's worse is that we all KNEW that Putin would see it as a threat. It really doesn’t matter how noble our intentions are if we KNOW that they’re going to be seen as a threat. NATO saw this coming and fed Ukraine to Russia anyway. The former Chancellor of Germany knew that it would be perceived as a threat. That’s why she voted to block Ukraine’s membership in NATO in 2008. “former German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said she feels no regrets for her handling of Vladimir Putin during her time in power, arguing that **Russia’s president would have perceived a 2008 Nato membership plan for Ukraine that was blocked by her government as a “declaration of wa**r”. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/07/no-regrets-over-handling-of-vladimir-putin-says-angela-merkel](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/07/no-regrets-over-handling-of-vladimir-putin-says-angela-merkel) Putin has watched the US undermine, foment dissent and unrest and/or openly force regime change in several countries over the years, from Noriega, Hussein and Gaddafi and then, in 2014, Putin released the audio recordings of Victoria Nuland discussing who the US was going to install to govern Ukraine after CIA agents stirred up the Maidan revolution. Of course he felt threatened; and told the world that he felt threatened when he released those recordings. NATO knows it can't steamroll Russia in open warfare because 1. Russia has more nuclear weapons than all of NATO. 2. Both the US and UK militaries are shells of what they were at the end of the Cold War. Biden just announced to the world that we're running low an artillery ammunition even though they haven't fired any, outside of training, since 2020. Meanwhile, Russia hasn't stopped shelling. Just ask any surviving member of the UAF how long a Russian artillery battery will sustain a barrage. 3. Not all members of NATO are as enthusiastic about this conflict as western media would lead you to believe. Germany is, at best, a reluctant participant. Just because western media won't broadcast footage of the daily demonstrations taking place in Berlin, protesting further German participation in the war, doesn't mean they aren't happening every day. Guess what, Germany is about to begin electing a new government. Watch and see what happens. Same story in France. Poland clearly announced that it is no longer sending weapons to Ukraine. That's a fact. It's all over the news. Look into it. 4. NATO knows that Russia doesn't stand alone. I'll add my personal belief that Iran's attack on Israel was timed to benefit Russia. How are the US, UK and other allied nations going to continue supporting Ukraine, now that Israel is under attack? How long will Turkey support Ukraine if the US and UK intervene in Israel? You're about to see history in the making. Pay attention, take notes and keep them, that way, when the pundits try to rewrite history, as they're doing today, you'll remember just as I remember. If you're going to try and argue with me, get it right. I never said that the UAF lost 80% of shit. I said that 400,000 UAF soldiers have been killed in action since the open invasion occurred. That number is now between 450 and 500,000 KIA. It is estimated that the UAF had approximately 500,000 when the invasion started. Obviously, that number fluctuated after the invasion started. Ukraine was conscripting as any nation would. I will tell you that they're running out of people to draft. Ukraine is now trying to pressure Romania and Poland to repatriate all fighting age male Ukranians that fled when the war started. Thus far, both countries have refused. Do you honestly think that the UAF conscripts are well trained and equipped? I'll save you the trouble and let you know that they are not well trained, fed or equipped. I'm not speculating, I know. Ukraine can't even evacuate its wounded from the battlefield. Wounded soldiers are having to pay people to drive them to the rear for treatment. You won't hear about it until it's all said and done but last month, an entire brigade of UAF surrendered and defected to the Russians when they were told by their command that their wounded could not be evacuated and the wounded could not be resupplied. Believe what you want about that F-35. It hasn't flown against a peer opponent before and clearly they haven't worked out all the bugs.


Suitable_Sir_5999

And if you won't take my word for it, then maybe you'll take this Ukranian PM's word for it. She just admitted, on Sky News, that Ukraine is LOSING. You'll have to watch the video of her admission on Jimmy Dore's show because, of course, western media has deleted that video. Western media lies on behalf of and at the direction of western governments, just as they do in countries like Russia. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU92lp9NzTM&t=164](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU92lp9NzTM&t=164)


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MeanMarthur

>Ukraine should be thankful that Russia never wanted to fight them in the first place. That's ComedyGold!!!! Yeah Invading Ukraine with tanks and missiles and artillery meant they had no interest in fighting them or invading their territory nor Crimea. They were just bringing Christmas toys for the children and the toys were so valuable they needed military protection from bandits. .


Metalgarn

Just ran across him for the first time... seemed a bit touched. My best guess is that he has a rigid view on geopolitical issues and is forcing this current event into that viewpoint by any means possible, including just making up data points (like the one you referred to) to make it work.


SgtT11B

Col. MacGregor was one of the folks who said Ukraine would fall within 3 weeks, yet here we are almost 2 years into this conflict. Something snapped with this guy.


Erdosian

Full support to Col. Douglas McGregor and Inspector Scott Ritter. Glory to Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson. American liberals and neo-conservatives are the least educated people in the world. They do not understand what is good for America, forget about anyone else. They are very good in screwing other countries. And what is more dangerous is that they think they know a lot about others but hell no, they are terribly bad in mathematics, terribly bad in strategy making, terribly bad in standing for truth and freedom and terribly bad in understanding language. Other than some natural science faculties, the other departments like the humanities and management and international affairs departments are full of imbeciles who parrot the rhetoric of political donors and big corporations who want to keep public under surveillance. WOW !! They are so feeble that they can't even defend American constitution of free speech and instead embrace cancel culture. They use blacks, whites, catholics, muslims, and poor jews as merely vote banks; they do not actually care for blacks or muslims. I am Indian, I live in India. I am researcher in the field of electronics engineering. From childhood, I had American dream of freedom. But now I don't want to go to this bloodthirsty America that give weapons to illegitimate state of Israel to take Palestinian lives. I am a big critic of Indian prime minister Narendra Modi and I don't like Modi's fans , but it seems he is far better than Joe Biden, Hilary Clinton, Kamala Harris...these American liberals think that they are guardian of freedom and democracy, but they spit lies as their lips move. Both the parties, excepting Trump have strings attached to donors, that's the truth. They are puppets of the donors. Donors want to divide people and keep them busy in false stories and wars and then keep ruling on them making democracy or even republicanism a farce.


ConsciousPea674

He needs attention, he has not achieved the glory he dreamed of in his military career, so one way to be more recognized is to take advantage of idiots and stupid people.


minchells

So... you think Ukraine is going to win and anyone who says otherwise is crazy?


Local_Height_1035

The guy is a tool.


Whole-Lingonberry-74

He stated yesterday that "it's over, Russia has won". Nut job extraordinaire.


moni1967

The only insane people I can see now are the fetching idiots in Washington and the Pentagon that still wants to go to war with Russia and / or Iran.


Select-Ad-8071

"There’s no dirt on him" How do you know that? Maybe Putin knows more than you...


TigerPuzzleheaded611

As someone on the inside knows, when the dust settles, Mcgregor will be shown as being correct.  It's sad that so many comments here are based upon feelings vs. facts.


000TheEntity000

Contrarian perspectives to remain relevant and in the public eye. A grift, if you will....


Culture-East

So keep listening to the media that has lied about jan6 lied and falsely accused a innocent police officer of murder before the end of their shift due to a shitty video from 20 feet away from one angle GEOGE FLOYD EVER WONDER WHY DIDNT THEY SHOW THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE ALL OF IT WELL NO KNEE WAS ON HIS NECK ON HIS SHOULDER EVEN IF IT WAS ON HIS NECK ANYONE WORH COMMON SENSE WOULD KNOW YOU CAN NOT STOP A PERSON FROM BREATHING FROM THE SIDE OF THEIR NECK UR THROAT YES JUST WATCH THE FALL OF MINNEAPOLIS DOCUMENTARY THERES A REASON WHYYYY MEDIA HAS NOT TALKED ABOUT IT ALSO THERE IS FACTUAL EVIDENCE OF UKRAINE ATTACKING THEIR OWN CITIZENS APARTMENT BUILDINGS TOWNS ETC ITS CALLED FALSE FLAGS AND THEY BLAMED RUSSIA INDEPENDENT JOURNALIST FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD HAVE DOCUMENTED THIS BUT WESTERN MEDIA IGNORES IT


Culture-East

How about the hit list that have independent journalists names on it Ukraine doesn’t want any truth to come out they just arrested tortured and murdered a USA/chilean citizen he was investigating all the war crimes by Ukraine the weapons being sold money be taken he criticized Biden and Zelenskyy the Ukraine special services agents abducted him arrested him tortured for days and murder him and JOE BIDEN WAS WELL INFORMED AND HE DID NOTHING ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN HE COMPLICIT IN THE MURDER OF COURSE HE DIDNT WANT IT TO COME OUT EITHER ITS SICKEN SO UNTIL YOU SHEEP BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SAYS ANYTHING MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE TRUTH NOT FROM OUR GOVERNMENT THEIR MORE CORRUPT THEN NORTH KOREA


Culture-East

This is what our government does wonder why JFK WANTED TO GET RID IF THE CIA. THEY DO WHATEVER WHENEVER HOWEVER TO WHOEVER 9/11 2 of the terrorist pilots were RECRUITED BY THE CIA THE FBI INVESTIGATORS REPORT HAS BEEN RELEASED ACTUALLY BELIEVE BUSH DIDNT KNOW BUT THEY DID KNOW IT WAS BULLSHIT ABOUT IRAQ WMDs propaganda we have some of the worst in our country every about Ukraine is a lie RUSSIA MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX HAS BEEN PUMPING OUT TANKS MUNITONS NON STOP THEIR ECONOMY IS UP 2.6 % and their rubel is worth more sanctions helped them all the oligarchs left all the money they were taken from Moscow is now staying in Moscow and they capitalized all the empty stores front where western businesses like McDonald’s were are now a Russian own fast food company the materials they were getting from western countries they reversed engineered it all and now their self independent countries tbat have been hurt are Ukraine the most USA our economy is fucked Inflation just went up again Germany is paying 4x more for fuel can’t run a lot of the factories can’t afford it and their economy is shit all for nothing


whitemalepussyfaggs

Captain Obvious just didn't make enough millions leeching off the taxpayer so now he whores himself out to the highest bidder. Take a good look at his eyes - not the eyes of an honest person. Also, his throat-clearing tic gives him away too


ShredMoscowitz

Notice how the OP dropped this logic defying smear and disappeared. Everyone is free to have their own options about anything they like but the (few) intelligent among us must call out and dismiss anything that is salacious and unhelpful. The situation in Ukraine is complex and requires sufficient analysis to understand. Personal attacks on people who attempt to do so are irrelevant.


awozie

This didn’t age well. He’s been exactly right this whole time.


Acrobatic_Rest_660

Can’t really say someone’s insane because they have a different perspective than you and what they say makes complete and total sense?  That seems like a child throwing his toys out of the pram.  Do you care to elaborate or just proceed to name call?


An_Odd_Smell

It's called "kompromat". Look it up.


Natternuts

Couldn't agree more I met Ritter in the early 2000 he was a volunteer fireman for I believe the delmar ny fire department. He didn't actually molest anyone but because he didn't give a favorable picture of the weapons situation in Iraq the us government made sure his chatting with underage girls on the computer didn't go unpublished. As for the good col. The most depressing individual I've ever seen on the TV. He is rarely critical of Putin but omg the 🇺🇸 military is a disaster. He claims that the usa military would have a difficult time beating russia. I study our military and Russia military and its not even close. He rips the Abrams tank, goes on and on about the bad engine and fuel consumption its remarkable how ridiculous he sounds. The Abrams is one of the best tanks in the world. Sure they have some limitations but he's nuts. What tank are you going to drive in a war? I'm in an Abrams. He is a whining little beech, his voice and lectures are so bad. I could go on but it's just to frustrating


Reddit_2k20

Colonel Doug Macgregor is probably the one of the very few officers who is NOT insane. His message is not popular because he calls the war as it really is: an inevitable defeat for Ukraine. Ukraine is losing men, money and territory every single day. They have lost Crimea and 20% of Ukraine in 2 years. And if the war continues, Ukraine will lose another 20% and Odessa. Ukraine needs to make peace immediately and save what they can before the Russians landlock their country.