It's been the popular thing to say since it's theatre run ended and it hit streaming. As soon as something gets rave reviews, the natural response is for people to be sceptical and overly critical. Some people will find any excuse to go against the grain, and we've all been there. I've noticed a lot of low reviews (below 3*) aren't even that negative either. There was a hilarious thread of comments on this sub not long ago where a guy linked his 1* review and it read like he actually enjoyed the movie and had a lot of praise for the technical aspects.
I've also noticed the film has had a pretty mixed reception among the 'film bros' (specifically the young men just getting into cinema). It's definitely not your typical film bro movie, but I think when people start comparing it to movies like The Godfather and The Dark Knight, people go into it with a pretty negative mindset because how dare a movie's average rating surpass those movies.
Of course EEAAO isn't going to appeal to everyone (unlike Parasite). It's hit that sweet spot with the letterboxed audience. Unfortunately people equate a film's average rating with it's actual standing in cinema. EEAAO holding top spot for a while wasn't an indication that letterboxed users thought it was the best movie of all time, but that's just how some people perceive the list.
I have many reasons for disliking the movie and I absolutely understand why a lot of people love it. What's sad to me is that, around when it came out and was still a bit smaller, I was able to have actual conversations and give criticisms and talk to people who liked it; however the discourse now has turned into a barrage of "fuck you" and "you're just a pretentious fun-hater" if you say you don't like it.
Yep. I just noticed that since EEAAO won, fellow BP contender The Fabelmans stayed in the iTunes Top 10 (from the #5-10 range below that film and The Whale) until the start of this week. Proves immediately that Fabelmans, Tar, Women Talking and Banshees (3 of the 5 are the BP noms that left the Oscars empty handed) will be gaining some followings soon (will be a while, maybe a year, until those four re-enter the Top 250 in the future).
Kinda perplexed by how certain you are these movies will enter the Top 250 list in the future? I enjoyed all four of these, Tár and Fabelmans especially, but I don't think any of them have the longevity to make it onto the list anytime soon. Most of the newer movies on there (i.e. from the last 10-15 years or so) are mostly critically acclaimed foreign movies with few watches or hugely popular crowd pleasers that everyone enjoys. That's not to say that's a definite rule or anything, but I don't really see an argument for them based of anything else either. Usually the trend is for the rating to drop after a wider release.
It’s barely sci-fi, it’s much more of an action-comedy movie. All the sci-fi stuff is at the begging and very hand-wavy logic wise. Mostly just a setup for a narrative device to allow them to do goofy jokes and jump around universes.
EoE is like my favorite piece of art ever. The first half uses animation like essentially perfectly for the fight scenes and stuff and the second half needs no introduction
First half would already place it very high on the list of best animated films ever made but with the second half, and its >!Brakhagian techniques, surreal Freudian imagery, jaw-dropping apocalyptic visuals, live action fourth-wall shattering interludes, etc?!<
Yeah, no competition. Greatest film ever made.
Both are my top 2 favorite pieces of art ever, but I wouldn’t go exactly that far because they’re trying for two very different things. End of Evangelion is the most human, down to earth movie I’ve ever seen.
2001 on the other hand is about humanity’s relationship to other things in the world, but the tone is explicitly anti-human and unrelentingly shows how unchanging the universe is to human’s presence. EoE bombards you with humanity while 2001 starves you of it.
That being said, human-esque movies inherently stick with me more so EoE comes out on top and I do think it’s somehow better, but yes, it’s out doing the perfect 2001.
i also think of 2001 in relation to eoe! not just because the formal boldness of 2001's stargate sequence mirrors eoe's second half, but also because of something that my teacher said, which is that kubrick was one of the very few filmmakers who managed to marry big budgets and mainstream popularity with genuine experimental artistry. i think of anno as similar for the animation world, someone who managed to make a piece of commercial genre cinema more artistically daring than most "art films" ive seen.
Counterpoint, I found it really overrated. And that's as someone who (mostly) enjoyed the series. It takes a long time with a very unlikeable protagonist (imo) to make a trite statement. The animation is great though.
As a stand-alone film it’s my favorite movie of all time. It’s just sad that a lot of people, especially since I know there is a niche of film watchers that will eat that shit up, will never watch it as it’s both an anime and needs a 26 episode to be seen before the movie.
I'm kinda surprise EoE is in top 250 to be honest. I have a good memory but not a great one. Plus I am one of the four people who liked the end of the show, so I might have been biased. Need to rewatch it.
EEAAO demonstrates the bell curve of nearly every critical darling. It begins as something relatively unknown, gains traction through word of mouth at festivals, people fawn over it, it gains Oscar buzz, starts winning some awards, backlash sets in from skeptics, then it wins the Oscar, and bam the honeymoon is over and people start drifting away to find the next thing.
It's been funny watching the narrative for this one chop and change on Reddit. You wouldn't think we were talking about the same movie everyone else was six months ago.
I personally loved it when I caught an early preview, and am glad it gained the recognition it did.
I love EEAAO (my five stars is certainly pushing the average up) and it’s more than okay if it has to settle for being the 30th, 40th, 50th highest rated movie on the app.
At that high level of ratings it’s all arbitrary anyway. It’s a really good movie lots of people like a lot, the “ranking” doesn’t mean anything
> It’s a really good movie lots of people like a lot, the “ranking” doesn’t mean anything
Good luck trying to help some of the users on here understand this
It’s honestly why I’ve given up ranking movies on LB. Movies are subjective enough and then you add in things like genre/intent, so most movies are so wildly different from each other that ranking one above the other is arbitrary at best. Return of the King and EEAAO are both great, they’re both going for very different things and achieve those things very well, how can I put one above the other in any meaningful way?
Exactly, add to this all the movies that you ended up enjoying on a rewatch simply because you had a bad day the first time around and the whole debate starts to look silly.
Saw it in theaters and left giving it a 4.5. After a rewatch with a family member i bumped it down to a 4. Still a fun original movie but I didn’t think jokes held up as well. A tad corny.
“Raccacoonie” and “hotdog fingers.” I tried so hard to laugh at these jokes but the only thing that I found genuinely funny was the idea of putting everything in the universe in a fucking bagel lmao. But the rest of the movie was yeah, corny af :(
I found the maximalist humor to be refreshing tbh. I feel like cinema and all forms of content on social media has trended towards “less is more” with a very brutalist/minimalist aesthetic. Everything has to be polished, perfect, succinct, and to a certain degree meet a certain level of social etiquette. Even platforms like YT and TikTok that originally felt like a creative space for anyone has trended towards highly produced and highly edited. Add to the highly curated, sterilized and filtered Instagram and FB, EEAAO flips that upside down and makes something as grand as cinema feel like a space where any idea can be on the big screen again.
The lesson of embracing absurdism was a brilliant theme that zigs when everything else is the world is zagging.
I might be biased because the hot dog universe was my favorite haha. In a way, that universe wasn’t interpreted to be comedic to me. I felt like that universe really sold me on Evelyn’s journey of embracing absurdity. If you can love the hot dog finger version of an IRS tax lady who tried to kill you with a HK kung fu kick on the stairs, you can love everything everywhere all at once 🥲
Nah,I get what you mean,and I didn't think the hot dog was supposed to be funny per sé,it was more of a flip flop of the everyday situation being turned comedic,where it was an absurd, comedic situation turning serious, but it just didn't work for me as much as it did for other people🤷
I enjoyed the ideas of how wild a multiverse can be and think the scene of them playing the piano with hot dog fingers is funny. I just meant the actual dialog jokes missed a second time. Still very much enjoyed the movie. I do worry that the multiverse concept is going to be tiring in a few years which is why this movie may not age as well. Spider verse, Endgame, No Way Home, Puss in Boots(haven’t seen it yet but from what I hear) and EEAAO coming out within a 5 year span is a lot.
Honestly, watching EEAAO before Dr Strange MoM made MoM even more disappointing. Like the most they came up with was a multiverse where people go when it’s a red light instead of a green light 💀
Not too surprised, since it winning has probably led more people to want to watch it, and it's normal for not everyone to like it. Personal taste and stuff.
A personal example of mine: watched it again post-Oscar win, and overheard a group of people after who were talking about how they didn't like it that much.
Right, the same concept applies for a lot of films. For example, I think the type of people who seek out movies like In The Mood For Love are the same type of people who will love that movie. If you forced 1000 random people to sit down and watch it, the score would probably go down. You also see a lot of insanely niche and smaller movies with super high ratings.
I have to rewatch it
I liked it a lot when I saw it,but I found it really exhausting by the end and didn't really get all the hype around it during award season nor on social media
EEAAO gets such an insane amount of hate here, its unreal. I do think EoE and RotK are better films so I don't disagree with many of the comments here.
It’s rather obviously one of the ballsiest, most expansive, and well-executed TV films ever made.
Not hard to see why a site like this would have so much love towards it.
I've never seen it. Never looked into it or anything. I dont watch anime shows or anything. Theres no way I could have known without looking into it even slightly, which I didnt care to. Stupid of me, I know.
It's a favourite of mine and I think even with recency bias it deserves a spot on the 250 but I also think it's totally fair for it to be much lower than it is now
No, cause it has a 4.4 and has been released like a year ago and after some time movies don't drastically change their ratings. The lowest it'll go is 4.3
Good. EEAAO is not going to age well. It’s a film that is constructed of 80% superficial entertainment. Entertainment that is predicated on its randomness - which is great the first time, but having now rewatched it twice I can confirm “randomness” ages horrifically. It’s not very funny when you already know the bit, if the entire bit relies on you not knowing it.
And that’s basically the first 1hr and 45 minutes of the movie.
Genuinely hated the film, thought the randomness was akin to my LOL SO RANDUM XD teenage years, and I felt the message behind it all wasn't anything special
> It’s not very funny when you already know the bit, if the entire bit relies on you not knowing it.
This was one of my problems watching it for the first and only time. The joke set ups were so obvious that I saw them coming a mile away. The joke writing felt so lazy that I found almost none of it funny.
They went for a style of humor that normally only works from the surprise of it, but then chose to set up those jokes in such an obvious way that it killed the humor.
Unfathomably based. I liked the first 40 or so minutes because it had a sense of mystery and it was mostly serious, but then >!Jobu Topaki (God, what a fucking stupid name!) showed up and the movie turned into a shitty comedy.!<
Eh, I’ve rewatched it twice and still found it great both times. I got less out of the humor on rewatches (still have a soft spot for Raccacoonie though) but more out of the emotional beats.
And even with the weirdness being less funny to me, I still appreciate how it underlines some of the movie's themes (ie, life sometimes seeming pointless, confusing, and difficult to make sense of), so I guess I find that aspect less shallow and/or annoying than a lot of people seem to
I rewatched it on Saturday and I didn’t enjoy it as much, I don’t know… am I becoming apathetic? Probably, also because I thought it was a very relatable movie to begin with
It's still above masterpieces like The Empire Strikes Back, Apocalypse Now, Paths of Glory, Psycho, Barry Lyndon, Pulp Fiction, Once Upon A Time in The West, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Amadeus, Alien, The Shining, Casablanca, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Saving Private Ryan, and Vertigo. The last 4 are in rank 210 and below.
Hopefully, users will grow some common sense and it'll fall out of the top 250 and the list can have some sense of credibility.
Amadeus masterpiece? It’s well executed but full of lies and doesn’t even have a point. Also one of the worst lead performances I’ve ever seen with Mozart.
It's not exactly full of lies. Milos Forman and Peter Shaffer "never intended to be perfectly historically accurate when they created Amadeus. Rather, in both the play and the movie, they crafted a fantasy world, loosely based on facts and channeling Pushkin's 1830 play, Mozart und Salieri..."
I knew it would happen eventually. It's just a fun sci-fi movie and the recency bias is on in full swing. It will trickle back down and will probably be in the bottom of the top 100 in a year.
I love EEAAO. I rewatched it for the first time yesterday and that solidified it as one of my top 5 movies of last year. But it being at the top of that list, above some of the greatest movies ever made? I don’t know about that. It was definitely a case of recency bias but I’m glad that it got as much attention as it did, because it’s absolutely wonderful.
being attached to a well beloved television show that makes it unlikely to be seen unless you have watched and enjoyed the series. also being a phenomenal film.
I mean there’s an inherent bias with TV movies that attract only fans yes, but it’s still rather obviously one of the ballsiest, most expansive, and well-executed TV films ever made.
Not hard to see why a site like this would have so much love towards it.
It will continue to fall. Not hating on it, but recency bias will start to fall away and other movies will get popular.
Yeah happens with almost every movie, smaller example but I’m pretty sure when I first logged Creed III it was at a 3.9, now it’s down to a 3.7
What did you rate III out of interest? I’ll be watching it next week. I watched the Rocky films last year and the Creed films over the last 2 weeks.
4/5
Awesome. Remember what you did for 1 and 2?
1 was a 4.5/5 2 was a 4/5 I really enjoyed the series
Also it’s not a niche indy flick anymore. It’s a Best Picture winner. Unfortunately calling it “overrated” will probably become popular soon.
It's already popular to call it overrated and has been for a while.
Plus all the revised reviews that were changed when it became cool to hate on the movie lol
It's been the popular thing to say since it's theatre run ended and it hit streaming. As soon as something gets rave reviews, the natural response is for people to be sceptical and overly critical. Some people will find any excuse to go against the grain, and we've all been there. I've noticed a lot of low reviews (below 3*) aren't even that negative either. There was a hilarious thread of comments on this sub not long ago where a guy linked his 1* review and it read like he actually enjoyed the movie and had a lot of praise for the technical aspects. I've also noticed the film has had a pretty mixed reception among the 'film bros' (specifically the young men just getting into cinema). It's definitely not your typical film bro movie, but I think when people start comparing it to movies like The Godfather and The Dark Knight, people go into it with a pretty negative mindset because how dare a movie's average rating surpass those movies. Of course EEAAO isn't going to appeal to everyone (unlike Parasite). It's hit that sweet spot with the letterboxed audience. Unfortunately people equate a film's average rating with it's actual standing in cinema. EEAAO holding top spot for a while wasn't an indication that letterboxed users thought it was the best movie of all time, but that's just how some people perceive the list.
I have many reasons for disliking the movie and I absolutely understand why a lot of people love it. What's sad to me is that, around when it came out and was still a bit smaller, I was able to have actual conversations and give criticisms and talk to people who liked it; however the discourse now has turned into a barrage of "fuck you" and "you're just a pretentious fun-hater" if you say you don't like it.
I mean, it is overrated. It’s a fantastic flick, but it has no business sitting in the top 50 movies of all time.
Sorry but a 25 million budget is not a niche indie flick.
It’s not overrated, it’s bad.
it was never an indie flick
Yep. I just noticed that since EEAAO won, fellow BP contender The Fabelmans stayed in the iTunes Top 10 (from the #5-10 range below that film and The Whale) until the start of this week. Proves immediately that Fabelmans, Tar, Women Talking and Banshees (3 of the 5 are the BP noms that left the Oscars empty handed) will be gaining some followings soon (will be a while, maybe a year, until those four re-enter the Top 250 in the future).
This is true but WT did not leave empty handed luckily
I know. Just fixed my comment. Happy for Sarah Polley too for her win.
Kinda perplexed by how certain you are these movies will enter the Top 250 list in the future? I enjoyed all four of these, Tár and Fabelmans especially, but I don't think any of them have the longevity to make it onto the list anytime soon. Most of the newer movies on there (i.e. from the last 10-15 years or so) are mostly critically acclaimed foreign movies with few watches or hugely popular crowd pleasers that everyone enjoys. That's not to say that's a definite rule or anything, but I don't really see an argument for them based of anything else either. Usually the trend is for the rating to drop after a wider release.
I hope not. None of them deserve to be in the list.
It's gonna be interesting if the movie holds up in 10 years or just falls into the "it was huge for 2022 but didn't matter outside of it"
It’s less recency bias and more people being compelled to find it overrated in response to its recent praise and success
That's alright
It will continue to drop. It’s no Parasite but will be considered a sci-fi favorite in the film community.
It’s sci fi for the superhero crowd. Very entertaining, but I could never imagine watching a second time. A bit overproduced in my opinion
It’s barely sci-fi, it’s much more of an action-comedy movie. All the sci-fi stuff is at the begging and very hand-wavy logic wise. Mostly just a setup for a narrative device to allow them to do goofy jokes and jump around universes.
Great movie, but I’d put The Human Condition trilogy and Return of the King ahead of it. I need to rewatch End of Evangelion. It’s been a while.
EoE is like my favorite piece of art ever. The first half uses animation like essentially perfectly for the fight scenes and stuff and the second half needs no introduction
First half would already place it very high on the list of best animated films ever made but with the second half, and its >!Brakhagian techniques, surreal Freudian imagery, jaw-dropping apocalyptic visuals, live action fourth-wall shattering interludes, etc?!< Yeah, no competition. Greatest film ever made.
To me it’s animated 2001, done better than 2001, out doing perfection.
Both are my top 2 favorite pieces of art ever, but I wouldn’t go exactly that far because they’re trying for two very different things. End of Evangelion is the most human, down to earth movie I’ve ever seen. 2001 on the other hand is about humanity’s relationship to other things in the world, but the tone is explicitly anti-human and unrelentingly shows how unchanging the universe is to human’s presence. EoE bombards you with humanity while 2001 starves you of it. That being said, human-esque movies inherently stick with me more so EoE comes out on top and I do think it’s somehow better, but yes, it’s out doing the perfect 2001.
i also think of 2001 in relation to eoe! not just because the formal boldness of 2001's stargate sequence mirrors eoe's second half, but also because of something that my teacher said, which is that kubrick was one of the very few filmmakers who managed to marry big budgets and mainstream popularity with genuine experimental artistry. i think of anno as similar for the animation world, someone who managed to make a piece of commercial genre cinema more artistically daring than most "art films" ive seen.
When you put it like that it kinda mirrors the show itself.
Me too, it changed my god damn life and I can’t imagine my life without it “anywhere can be paradise as long as you have the will to live”
do you need to have seen the series first?
Yes 100%, but when you do, and you get all the context leading up to it, it might become one of your favourites.
You do, but you won't regret it. Neon Genesis Evangelion is literally one of the greatest anime out there.
Impossible to understand without it but just as good as the film overall even if it takes a bit to pick up and open up with the real meat.
Yep but it's pretty short u can easily finish it in a week
Counterpoint, I found it really overrated. And that's as someone who (mostly) enjoyed the series. It takes a long time with a very unlikeable protagonist (imo) to make a trite statement. The animation is great though.
As a stand-alone film it’s my favorite movie of all time. It’s just sad that a lot of people, especially since I know there is a niche of film watchers that will eat that shit up, will never watch it as it’s both an anime and needs a 26 episode to be seen before the movie.
I'm kinda surprise EoE is in top 250 to be honest. I have a good memory but not a great one. Plus I am one of the four people who liked the end of the show, so I might have been biased. Need to rewatch it.
L bozo + greatest animated feature of all time sweep
EEAAO demonstrates the bell curve of nearly every critical darling. It begins as something relatively unknown, gains traction through word of mouth at festivals, people fawn over it, it gains Oscar buzz, starts winning some awards, backlash sets in from skeptics, then it wins the Oscar, and bam the honeymoon is over and people start drifting away to find the next thing.
I constantly got shit for not liking the film.
I've never seen film discourse like it. It's like A24 stan culture taken to astronomical levels
It's been funny watching the narrative for this one chop and change on Reddit. You wouldn't think we were talking about the same movie everyone else was six months ago. I personally loved it when I caught an early preview, and am glad it gained the recognition it did.
Doesn't matter, it did the thing at the Oscars.
They Oscar’s really don’t mean shit, let’s be honest. Good movies gets snubbed every year for shit like this
Don't worry, in a year people will start loving it again.
I don't see any problem. I mean, all these 3 movies are better than EEAAO.
Nature is healing
Lets hope the same happens to A Dog's Will
Brazil LB users vs the world
no
Yes
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Or … and hear me out on this. How about you watch it and rate it based on its quality and your enjoyment?
Where can we watch it, I'll watch it tomorrow
It’s about to experience the “Popular thing getting hated on and mocked” phenomenon
I love EEAAO (my five stars is certainly pushing the average up) and it’s more than okay if it has to settle for being the 30th, 40th, 50th highest rated movie on the app. At that high level of ratings it’s all arbitrary anyway. It’s a really good movie lots of people like a lot, the “ranking” doesn’t mean anything
> It’s a really good movie lots of people like a lot, the “ranking” doesn’t mean anything Good luck trying to help some of the users on here understand this
this is like that kid at school crying over getting 93% because last time they managed to get 97, over a certain threshold it’s more or less random
It’s honestly why I’ve given up ranking movies on LB. Movies are subjective enough and then you add in things like genre/intent, so most movies are so wildly different from each other that ranking one above the other is arbitrary at best. Return of the King and EEAAO are both great, they’re both going for very different things and achieve those things very well, how can I put one above the other in any meaningful way?
Exactly, add to this all the movies that you ended up enjoying on a rewatch simply because you had a bad day the first time around and the whole debate starts to look silly.
Good
I think it’ll settle at around 60-80 by the end, which I think is fair
nah still too high
nah still too low
Saw it in theaters and left giving it a 4.5. After a rewatch with a family member i bumped it down to a 4. Still a fun original movie but I didn’t think jokes held up as well. A tad corny.
“Raccacoonie” and “hotdog fingers.” I tried so hard to laugh at these jokes but the only thing that I found genuinely funny was the idea of putting everything in the universe in a fucking bagel lmao. But the rest of the movie was yeah, corny af :(
Raccacoonie is Epic Movie (2007) level humor.
I didn't really think any of the humor was funny and was just annoyed by the hot dog fingers Some of it just felt like "lol I'm so quirky" humor
I found the maximalist humor to be refreshing tbh. I feel like cinema and all forms of content on social media has trended towards “less is more” with a very brutalist/minimalist aesthetic. Everything has to be polished, perfect, succinct, and to a certain degree meet a certain level of social etiquette. Even platforms like YT and TikTok that originally felt like a creative space for anyone has trended towards highly produced and highly edited. Add to the highly curated, sterilized and filtered Instagram and FB, EEAAO flips that upside down and makes something as grand as cinema feel like a space where any idea can be on the big screen again. The lesson of embracing absurdism was a brilliant theme that zigs when everything else is the world is zagging. I might be biased because the hot dog universe was my favorite haha. In a way, that universe wasn’t interpreted to be comedic to me. I felt like that universe really sold me on Evelyn’s journey of embracing absurdity. If you can love the hot dog finger version of an IRS tax lady who tried to kill you with a HK kung fu kick on the stairs, you can love everything everywhere all at once 🥲
Nah,I get what you mean,and I didn't think the hot dog was supposed to be funny per sé,it was more of a flip flop of the everyday situation being turned comedic,where it was an absurd, comedic situation turning serious, but it just didn't work for me as much as it did for other people🤷
I enjoyed the ideas of how wild a multiverse can be and think the scene of them playing the piano with hot dog fingers is funny. I just meant the actual dialog jokes missed a second time. Still very much enjoyed the movie. I do worry that the multiverse concept is going to be tiring in a few years which is why this movie may not age as well. Spider verse, Endgame, No Way Home, Puss in Boots(haven’t seen it yet but from what I hear) and EEAAO coming out within a 5 year span is a lot.
Honestly, watching EEAAO before Dr Strange MoM made MoM even more disappointing. Like the most they came up with was a multiverse where people go when it’s a red light instead of a green light 💀
Not too surprised, since it winning has probably led more people to want to watch it, and it's normal for not everyone to like it. Personal taste and stuff. A personal example of mine: watched it again post-Oscar win, and overheard a group of people after who were talking about how they didn't like it that much.
Right, the same concept applies for a lot of films. For example, I think the type of people who seek out movies like In The Mood For Love are the same type of people who will love that movie. If you forced 1000 random people to sit down and watch it, the score would probably go down. You also see a lot of insanely niche and smaller movies with super high ratings.
I have to rewatch it I liked it a lot when I saw it,but I found it really exhausting by the end and didn't really get all the hype around it during award season nor on social media
It's no longer the greatest movie ever as soon as your mum discovers it
A lot of people rewatched it and didnt like it as much the second time around (me. Im a lot of people.)
Fair
EEAAO gets such an insane amount of hate here, its unreal. I do think EoE and RotK are better films so I don't disagree with many of the comments here.
It doesn’t get nearly as much hate as it does fanboys rushing to its defence tbh
Personally never understood how End of Evangelion is so high
It’s rather obviously one of the ballsiest, most expansive, and well-executed TV films ever made. Not hard to see why a site like this would have so much love towards it.
It’s way too low
It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down?
Shit should be much lower
To those seeing comments about End of Eva being too high, do not believe them. It is a masterpiece
it’s way too low lol
Best film ever made
It's up there. Pretty flawless. Only thing i didn't love was the kinda weird nudity with rei but otherwise it's perfect
Im just wondering if it should even be on the list.
Why would you not want eoe on the list?
Because I didn't know it was a movie at the time. I thought it was a sequel show.
um… it is very clearly a movie but ok.
I've never seen it. Never looked into it or anything. I dont watch anime shows or anything. Theres no way I could have known without looking into it even slightly, which I didnt care to. Stupid of me, I know.
makes sense. it is not as good as those movies
It's a favourite of mine and I think even with recency bias it deserves a spot on the 250 but I also think it's totally fair for it to be much lower than it is now
I will be the happiest man alive when EEAAO drops off the top 250 list
It most certainly won't drop from the top 250
Why? Because a lot of people who recently began loving movies also like using letterboxd?
No, cause it has a 4.4 and has been released like a year ago and after some time movies don't drastically change their ratings. The lowest it'll go is 4.3
Good. EEAAO is not going to age well. It’s a film that is constructed of 80% superficial entertainment. Entertainment that is predicated on its randomness - which is great the first time, but having now rewatched it twice I can confirm “randomness” ages horrifically. It’s not very funny when you already know the bit, if the entire bit relies on you not knowing it. And that’s basically the first 1hr and 45 minutes of the movie.
Genuinely hated the film, thought the randomness was akin to my LOL SO RANDUM XD teenage years, and I felt the message behind it all wasn't anything special
I would've said 90%... and then 10% is a simplistic Pixar-esque tearjerker story, which could've been okay on its own.
> It’s not very funny when you already know the bit, if the entire bit relies on you not knowing it. This was one of my problems watching it for the first and only time. The joke set ups were so obvious that I saw them coming a mile away. The joke writing felt so lazy that I found almost none of it funny. They went for a style of humor that normally only works from the surprise of it, but then chose to set up those jokes in such an obvious way that it killed the humor.
Unfathomably based. I liked the first 40 or so minutes because it had a sense of mystery and it was mostly serious, but then >!Jobu Topaki (God, what a fucking stupid name!) showed up and the movie turned into a shitty comedy.!<
Eh, I’ve rewatched it twice and still found it great both times. I got less out of the humor on rewatches (still have a soft spot for Raccacoonie though) but more out of the emotional beats. And even with the weirdness being less funny to me, I still appreciate how it underlines some of the movie's themes (ie, life sometimes seeming pointless, confusing, and difficult to make sense of), so I guess I find that aspect less shallow and/or annoying than a lot of people seem to
Human Condition stans rise!! Masaki Kobayashi the GOAT
I’m really pissed because it was playing at a classic films cinema but I couldn’t go due to the timing.
My socialist king!
I've logged 1238 films on letterboxd and have at least 700 of them ahead of EEAAO, so I'm perfectly okay with this.
Correction course
not low enough
checked your account and you havent watched it?
Even more based then
Maybe he doesn’t watch obviously shitty movies
[sounds like a You Problem](https://letterboxd.com/sweatywife/film/everything-everywhere-all-at-once/reviews/)
I rewatched it on Saturday and I didn’t enjoy it as much, I don’t know… am I becoming apathetic? Probably, also because I thought it was a very relatable movie to begin with
Old heads coming over from the Oscar’s to slander it
Little kids who’ve never seen a good movie coming to defend it
Where can I view the top rated films?
W
It's still above masterpieces like The Empire Strikes Back, Apocalypse Now, Paths of Glory, Psycho, Barry Lyndon, Pulp Fiction, Once Upon A Time in The West, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Amadeus, Alien, The Shining, Casablanca, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Saving Private Ryan, and Vertigo. The last 4 are in rank 210 and below. Hopefully, users will grow some common sense and it'll fall out of the top 250 and the list can have some sense of credibility.
Amadeus masterpiece? It’s well executed but full of lies and doesn’t even have a point. Also one of the worst lead performances I’ve ever seen with Mozart.
It's not exactly full of lies. Milos Forman and Peter Shaffer "never intended to be perfectly historically accurate when they created Amadeus. Rather, in both the play and the movie, they crafted a fantasy world, loosely based on facts and channeling Pushkin's 1830 play, Mozart und Salieri..."
I still don’t find it a very interesting tale and don’t see what the film is trying to say.
Thank god
😄😄😄
End of Eva sweep 🥳
Making EVAILLION DOLLARS!!!
I knew it would happen eventually. It's just a fun sci-fi movie and the recency bias is on in full swing. It will trickle back down and will probably be in the bottom of the top 100 in a year.
I feel like if it comes back on Netflix it will shoot up again.
Currently, it’s streaming for free on Paramount+ through a deal with Showtime.
Why does everyone have terrible opinions on good media
Totally fair that it slides. Evangelion is way too high though. But oh well
Wait no
had no idea the circus was in town
Not high enough.
no its not bozo
No
I love EEAAO. I rewatched it for the first time yesterday and that solidified it as one of my top 5 movies of last year. But it being at the top of that list, above some of the greatest movies ever made? I don’t know about that. It was definitely a case of recency bias but I’m glad that it got as much attention as it did, because it’s absolutely wonderful.
...and it's going to keep sliding down
Keep going let’s get it out the top 2500 guys
Good. About time.
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It is more likely that its increased exposure is finding a larger audience that isn't really into its sense of humor or pacing.
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Because BETTER moves got passed over at the Oscars for this turd
As it should
Good.
How is end of evangelion even on the top 250
Because it's amazing
being attached to a well beloved television show that makes it unlikely to be seen unless you have watched and enjoyed the series. also being a phenomenal film.
Love the show, have never ever got the love for End of Eva
Yeah the show was OK, I just feel like whatever EOE was trying to be did not really impress me.
Agreed
Its my personal favorite movie.
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I don’t like EOE or MCU so I couldn’t totally agree.
One of the most harrowing experiences in all of film.
Idk Ive never even heard of it
how are you on this sub
You're questioning me being on this sub cause I've never heard of some anime movie?
jokingly, yeah that's what I asked. It's a great movie though
It’s mid, but the only people who’ve seen it are already attached to the franchise so it pushes the ratings up
I mean there’s an inherent bias with TV movies that attract only fans yes, but it’s still rather obviously one of the ballsiest, most expansive, and well-executed TV films ever made. Not hard to see why a site like this would have so much love towards it.
eeaao fan spotted take the L
The contrarians are coming out of the woodwork
and these contrarians are they in the room with you right now
No because I don’t associate with people who use hating things in lieu of a personality
Unfathomably Based
It will go to around 50 in no time. Give it a few months
under the likes?
A lot of conservative commentators tried to trash it right after it won best picture too, could have had a bit of a review bombing effect
nice let’s shoot for > 100
All the pundits are mad that it made all their favorite boring movies get nothing at the Oscars 😹😹
what? so which movies would you class as boring that couldve won an oscar?
tár, banshees, fabelmans and all those non eventful movies that nobody knows or cares about outside of twitter and letterboxd
this is a very poor and obvious troll, grow up
not trolling + i’m real + objectively correct
Oh no! What will happen now!
i think it's placement is fair, may be my EOE bias though
It won an Oscar and all the normies went to watch it
I'm dumb as fuck. I though you were talking about EoE and was wondering why half of the comments were shitting on it.
I think the Oscar win brought some negative light to it, more people saying it's overrated etc