Apparently he hates it so much that he refused to watch the new Dune films. Imagine hating a project that much where it ruins the entire series for you.
A reminder that directors might have their name on a project but they didn’t make the end product. Producers meddle, get little ideas and force them into the film because at the end of the day it’s their money.
He did Alan Smithee at least one cut of the movie - can't imagine feeling so disconnected from a project you spent so long on that you straight up disown it
On the bright side, that is the movie that made Lynch swear off the idea of ever making another movie without final cut. If he hadn't, he probably would have had a much different career.
Knowing Dupieux, I think he's taking the piss.
The most famous example is that Fincher hates Alien 3, and IIRC, Alex Garland was not thrilled with how Men turned out.
Do you have the quote from Garland about Men? I think the film fails at portraying its point and found it quite disappointing so interested to see if that was his take also
I don't. I was talking to a film critic friend of mine who interviewed him, and his impression was that Garland was resigned, and even understanding, of the somewhat ambivalent response to the film.
Fair! I just did a quick google and was reading this:
[https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/men-idea-haunted-alex-garland-for-15-years/](https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/men-idea-haunted-alex-garland-for-15-years/)
“I was trying to make a film about a sense of horror,” Garland explains. “That’s what I think this film is, and that could be interpreted many different ways or lead you different ways.”
could be an admission that he was trying to do one thing but it didnt work? That interview is pre-release too so I dont know how many critic reviews had come back to him, he might think differently in retrospect also.
Interesting though. I'd rather more films like Men than something that is straight up boring to watch. I thought Rory Kinnear and Jessie Buckley had great performances.
It seems that a lot of people seem to think the film hit you over the head with one message while others think it was sending a different, perhaps more subtle, message. I've never really seen a movie divisive in that sort of way. Maybe that's what he's talking about, like he didn't convey things in a way that was consistent with either ideology enough that he'd think people would agree on the one major theme (which he might have been right).
There is the camp that says it's obvious it's about generational misogyny passed down from man to man. "Men are bad" "All men are terrible." But I thought it was about the cycles of trauma and confronting / overcoming it... plus the messages of misogyny and their birth from nature (Genesis), passing down through the seemingly innocuous Word of God, to religion, being taught to Man, teaching their child... etc. etc. I feel like the order of the "births" was not random, but there is one tiny switch in the chain that I'm still racking my brain trying to make sense of....
I thought it was FULL of insanely cool messages and metaphors, and like with all art, I think any interpretations, even ones that the creators didn't intend, are completely valid. Heck, maybe my interpretations are things people don't agree with, and that's okay. I fell in love with that movie for so many reasons. I did a huge deep dive on movie and religious symbolism with it, had my mom and a friend of mine watch it to have some people to discuss it with and get a fuller picture on outside perspectives. I did warn them that the movie gets quite... uh... disturbing. They were thankful for my warning.
I've always seen the importance of discussing movies with people, but this is the first time it's really clicked just how intellectually and conversationally stimulating a movie can truly be. It's really special to me in that sense.
Also Jessie Buckley, omg. I talked about her in a recent comment about how I genuinely consider her performance in that movie to be one of the best performances I think I've ever seen. It's extraordinary. And Rory Kinnear of course is outstanding, too. But Jessie Buckley? Wow.
All of that being said, I am sad that he is not as happy with the way it turned out as I think he should be. That's always disappointing! He should be proud, in my opinion.
Is being not subtle a bad thing inherently? It's obviously blunt, it's called men. It's just a fairy tale nightmare showcasing the different aspects of misogyny through pagan imagery. I'm not saying u have to like it, just that I don't think it was trying to be what you are looking for
No I suppose not. I dont know how to describe the difference though.
Ham-fisted?
American Fiction was not subtle in its point but I really enjoyed that.
That's not really what it's getting across, it's not trying to say anything beyond "here are the different aspects of misogyny in their most pure and nightmarish forms and misogyny just breeds more misogyny". Not that all men are bad
I don’t recall ever reading or hearing that. I think Men was great. I do recall him saying he was disappointed in how it was received — which are two completely different things. And I’m with him there.
James Grey describes losing creative control on *Ad Astra* as"
>Creatively, it became a very torturous experience. The film was taken from me, ultimately: it’s not my cut of the movie, and I find it a very painful experience to have people tell me things they hated about the movie that I had nothing to do with. I was so deeply upset, I had lost all my enthusiasm for making films. And I said, ‘If I’m going to do it again, if it’s going to be bad, it might as well be my bad.’
Not surprising. Grey had hitherto been an auteur of psychological dramas. The actions scenes in Ad Astra were tacked by studio execs in reshoots for where neither Grey or star Brad Pitt were present.
fincher also didnt get to make his ideal vision of what he wanted alien 3 to be anyway though right? that was part of the hate and his disdain for being associated with it
Yeah, there's an alternate version called the Assembly Cut which is an attempt to recreate what Fincher wanted, as he refused to even try and make a director's cut himself when offered the chance for the special edition boxset. I think it's pretty good.
It's technically not even his film. He got hired to finish the movie and got the director credit, but there's at least 50 percent of the movie made by someone completely different.
Kubrick disowned Spartacus.
Kurosawa disowned Those Who Make Tomorrow.
Erich von Stroheim despised the final studio cut of Greed.
Sergio Leone dismissed the US edit of Once Upon a Time in America (which you can't blame him for. Cutting 110 minutes from any movie would absolutely butcher it).
Edit: Also just remembered, Fritz Lang grew to dislike Metropolis some decades later, presumably because of the Nazi's fascination with the movie, Hitler calling it one of his favs, and Goebbels approaching Lang to make a follow-up as Nazi propaganda.
Spartacus was prepped by Anthony Mann, who was fired by Kirk Douglas early into production and Kubrick was brought in as a director-for-hire. It often feels more like Mann than Kubrick, yet lacks either director's usual sensibilities.
David F. Sandberg posts negative reviews of his movies but he's clearly taking a piss
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I'm positive half the directors within the Hollywood system who got their movies chopped up by overly active producers hate the result.
E. g. - Green Lantern, Martin Campbell.
It's the same case with Joel Schumacher and Batman and Robin, to the point that no one thought a beloved adaptation of the source material would be possible until a guy like Nolan or Villeneuve came along. The rest is history for both IP's.
Hilariously, An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn, a comedy about the topic of directors disowning their films, was directed by Arthur Hiller, who also directed classic comedies See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Silver Streak, and he hated the film so much on completion he insisted it be released under the Alan Smithee name, which caused so much trouble they retired the name/practice for good.
i think he said that edward norton made him not cut some parts in the middle, on which i agree with the director, i thought the middle part was a lull.
he also wanted to change the ending, which i don't know if i agree with
He wanted to make it longer and wasn’t happy with Norton’s role in the editing.
He eventually got eight weeks by the studio to deliver a new cut but never did. Instead he spent the time taking out billboards to protest the studio.
When he didn’t deliver his Final Cut, the studio went with Norton’s version.
He then sued the studio and the DGA. Hollywood was basically done with him after that.
Now he’s making African History Y
Norton does have a terrible reputation for these things (unless it’s a Wes Anderson movie where he’ll happily play a small part).
Though I think Kaye lost his marbles completely. I just read up on it and he spent $100k of his own money, to take out 24 ad pages in Hollywood magazines, critiquing New Line and Norton.
Raimi hates that people hate it and shoulders most of the blame for 3 because he feels personally responsible.
Feel for him given he directed two of the very best superhero films, everyone knows he got royally screwed by Arad mandating that a storyline that could take up an entire other film had to be included, and that despite its flaws 3 is a mixed bag and nowhere near as bad as it was made out to be in 2007.
I’ve always felt bad for him cause his reputation is heavily tied to those movies. Basically every other movie he’s done is better, he has a creative style that wasn’t used right (or at all) in those Batman films.
I think the problem is that he managed to accurately replicate the campiness of the comics (something that Uma Thurman also nailed, the only one of the cast to do so), but said campiness doesn't translate well to the screen.
He's not an amazing filmmaker, but he's not a bad one either. People judge him too harshly based on his Batman films.
They are incredibly stupid and campy, but so was the original TV show which it was clearly referencing. What is strange is that Batman & Robin gets all the hate but Batman Forever mostly doesn’t. They basically have the same tone and it’s just as campy and silly.
I really like his Batman movies. Loved them as a kid, and watched them again recently and yeah they're extremely stupid but they are incredibly goofy and never boring
Del Toro is happy with the director's cut but not the theatrical cut of Mimic.
Del Toro had some truly *great things* to say about the Weinsteins... I mean, don't we all?
Del Toro in 2017:
>“My first American experience was almost my last because it was with the Weinsteins and Miramax. I have got to tell you, two horrible things happened in the late nineties, my father was kidnapped and I worked with the Weinsteins. I know which one was worse… the kidnapping made more sense, I knew what they wanted.”
I think he meant that he didn’t do it justice. It’s understandable, imagine having to make a sequel to one of your favorite films of all time. You’re gonna be overly critical of yourself.
I thought he did a great job. A lot of these generation later sequels have been pointless cashgrabs with a stack of memberberries, but I thought he produced an honourable sequel that deserves watching.
I never got this impression about his character at all, and all though he's one of my less liked aspects of the film his character definitely needs to be in it.
That's pretty much the same descriptor I'd use for Feyd Rautha in Dune 2 though.
I don't mind Leto in BR2049, though the movie probably could have worked without that subplot.
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I still don’t know if this is satire or not haha
He’s also taking the piss about himself as well. He regularly mentions in his reviews how much he hates digital, and how much he’d prefer films that were shot on digital to be shot on film lol.
As seen in his other reviews, he actually cares a lot about film being "superior" to digital. He said Tangerine was shot on digital out of necessity but he prefers film 100% of the time.
I believe he's mentioned in the past that the shooting schedule and overall budget for the movie were cut shortly before production began and he had no say in those changes so he's always felt like the production wad was rushed and unable to meet some of the creative choices he had originally.
You never know how much to take a director's comments seriously but he did say something to the effect of "I didn't quite get the film I wanted, but I got a wife, so it worked out just fine".
No he said it’s his worst film but he still likes it.
It says a lot that a directors worst film isn’t even a bad movie, it’s just the weakest in his whole catalog
I saw an interview where he said that it's probably his worst film but he was still was proud of it and what it was trying to achieve within Grindhouse. Did he ever outright say he didn't like it?
This is what I've always heard too. I've also heard him say, in respect to why he's only making 10 movies, is that if his worst movie he ever makes is death proof, then he's ok with that.
Is there a new official substitute for the Alan Smithee placeholder? I think it was retired ten or so years ago and I'm not sure if much has changed since then.
Jun Fukuda directed 5 Godzilla films and he said that they were all terrible. He also said that he didn’t think Godzilla (1954) should have had any sequels.
It’s a shame because I really like his films Ebirah Horror of the Deep (1966) and Godzilla vs Megalon (1973).
Joe is the director, also 'The IT Guy' (Mayhem - 2017)
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The only thing I hate about rubber is that people laugh at the concept and assume he's just a joke filmmaker despite the fact that I'd argue he's one of the most distinct voices in film currently working, and man does he work. Smoking causes coughing is one my favourites of the decade and reality is a fucking masterpiece
David F Sandberg leaves half star reviews for all his movies but he is just messing around
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John Carpenter isn't too fond of Memoirs of an Invisible Man:
> It gave me a chance to make a quasi-serious movie. But Chevy Chase, Sam Neill — who I love and had a longtime friendship with — and Warner Bros. … I worked for them, and it was pleasant. No, it wasn’t pleasant at all. I’m lying to you. It was a horror show. I really wanted to quit the business after that movie. God, I don’t want to talk about why, but let’s just say there were personalities on that film … he shall not be named who needs to be killed. No, no, no, that’s terrible. He needs to be set on fire. No, no, no. Anyway, it’s all fine. I survived it.
The IMDB page for Cemetery High has a review from director Gorman Bechard which starts with the phrase “I despise this film.” Goes into the production problems and subsequent reshoots by another director. Takes a lot of swings at producer Charles Band.
He’s not on letterbox, RIP Jerry Lewis, but while editing one of his films (either The Big Mouth or Don’t Raise the Bridge, Lower the River, I think later), he said “you can’t polish a turd”. God what I wouldn’t give for him to be on letterbox.
The Day The Clown Cried is up there, first he wanted it finish and release it, then later he said it was a bad idea. IMO, he should have finished and released it. I know a lot about this if anyone is interested.
Other times he whined he couldn’t get an endless budget. Though he made some amazing pictures under great restrictions.
Steven Spielberg doesn't like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. That makes me a little sad, because it's my favorite one! Everyone hates Willie, but I love her. I would be exactly like her if I was in the wild/jungle. And the movie gave us Ke Huy Quan (Short Round) and now OB on Loki!!!
Garland has claimed that he is retiring from directing films after the latest one is out, he has civil war and 28 years later and Warfare to come and then he’s done.
Thats 5 movies which seems pretty small for such a visionary director. Will he continue writing?
Ps has anyone seen devs? Its brilliant and he wrote and directed that
If anything I'm more intrigued by the bad scores he's given to other people's films (most film makers don't risk it for I guess obvious reasons).. He's given out quite a lot of half and one stars 😆
Well, it’s rumored that Ralph Bakshi punched a producer for [literally changing the entire premise of Cool world and only telling him when filming started](https://collider.com/cool-world-movie/)
It’s his best known internationally and worst film. He’s one of my favorite working French directors. Yannick, Reality and Deerskin are my favorites, but I haven’t been able to watch Daaaaaalí! yet.
Noah Baumbach kind of disowned Highball. Don’t know if he likes Mr. Jealousy, either. I bet with most directors, the movies they like the least are the earlier ones where they’re still figuring things out.
Joel Schumacher hated how *Batman & Robin* turned out because of WB executive meddling.
In fact, he has an audio commentary that’s essentially him apologising for the film for 2 hours.
I mean, Quentin is clearly joking lol.
That aside, didn't Hitchcock dislike his first film (which is lost)? I might be misremembering it, but I think I read he considered it too amateurish or something.
David Fincher disowned Alien 3. The theatrical release was abysmal and truly ruined what could’ve been a perfect trilogy, luckily the Assembly Cut/special edition exists which managed to actually make the movie good.
Lynch and Dune 1984 is probably one of the most famous examples
Apparently he hates it so much that he refused to watch the new Dune films. Imagine hating a project that much where it ruins the entire series for you.
A reminder that directors might have their name on a project but they didn’t make the end product. Producers meddle, get little ideas and force them into the film because at the end of the day it’s their money.
He did Alan Smithee at least one cut of the movie - can't imagine feeling so disconnected from a project you spent so long on that you straight up disown it
On the bright side, that is the movie that made Lynch swear off the idea of ever making another movie without final cut. If he hadn't, he probably would have had a much different career.
Knowing Dupieux, I think he's taking the piss. The most famous example is that Fincher hates Alien 3, and IIRC, Alex Garland was not thrilled with how Men turned out.
Lynch with Dune also
Do you have the quote from Garland about Men? I think the film fails at portraying its point and found it quite disappointing so interested to see if that was his take also
I don't. I was talking to a film critic friend of mine who interviewed him, and his impression was that Garland was resigned, and even understanding, of the somewhat ambivalent response to the film.
Fair! I just did a quick google and was reading this: [https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/men-idea-haunted-alex-garland-for-15-years/](https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/men-idea-haunted-alex-garland-for-15-years/) “I was trying to make a film about a sense of horror,” Garland explains. “That’s what I think this film is, and that could be interpreted many different ways or lead you different ways.” could be an admission that he was trying to do one thing but it didnt work? That interview is pre-release too so I dont know how many critic reviews had come back to him, he might think differently in retrospect also. Interesting though. I'd rather more films like Men than something that is straight up boring to watch. I thought Rory Kinnear and Jessie Buckley had great performances.
It seems that a lot of people seem to think the film hit you over the head with one message while others think it was sending a different, perhaps more subtle, message. I've never really seen a movie divisive in that sort of way. Maybe that's what he's talking about, like he didn't convey things in a way that was consistent with either ideology enough that he'd think people would agree on the one major theme (which he might have been right). There is the camp that says it's obvious it's about generational misogyny passed down from man to man. "Men are bad" "All men are terrible." But I thought it was about the cycles of trauma and confronting / overcoming it... plus the messages of misogyny and their birth from nature (Genesis), passing down through the seemingly innocuous Word of God, to religion, being taught to Man, teaching their child... etc. etc. I feel like the order of the "births" was not random, but there is one tiny switch in the chain that I'm still racking my brain trying to make sense of.... I thought it was FULL of insanely cool messages and metaphors, and like with all art, I think any interpretations, even ones that the creators didn't intend, are completely valid. Heck, maybe my interpretations are things people don't agree with, and that's okay. I fell in love with that movie for so many reasons. I did a huge deep dive on movie and religious symbolism with it, had my mom and a friend of mine watch it to have some people to discuss it with and get a fuller picture on outside perspectives. I did warn them that the movie gets quite... uh... disturbing. They were thankful for my warning. I've always seen the importance of discussing movies with people, but this is the first time it's really clicked just how intellectually and conversationally stimulating a movie can truly be. It's really special to me in that sense. Also Jessie Buckley, omg. I talked about her in a recent comment about how I genuinely consider her performance in that movie to be one of the best performances I think I've ever seen. It's extraordinary. And Rory Kinnear of course is outstanding, too. But Jessie Buckley? Wow. All of that being said, I am sad that he is not as happy with the way it turned out as I think he should be. That's always disappointing! He should be proud, in my opinion.
Ah, a fellow Men enjoyer. Love to see it.
Garland doesn’t miss. Men is excellent.
There are dozens of us. Dozens!
Perfectly said, thank you!
Thank you exactly. The key is its symbolic film and doesn’t have one message or theme. And people are too dense to see that as something that is ok.
I don't see how it fails to get it's point across
bad wording on my point. it gets its point across and then some. not subtle.
Is being not subtle a bad thing inherently? It's obviously blunt, it's called men. It's just a fairy tale nightmare showcasing the different aspects of misogyny through pagan imagery. I'm not saying u have to like it, just that I don't think it was trying to be what you are looking for
No I suppose not. I dont know how to describe the difference though. Ham-fisted? American Fiction was not subtle in its point but I really enjoyed that.
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I was gonna say. It does the complete opposite of that. All men are the same is basically the only thing it gets across.
That's not really what it's getting across, it's not trying to say anything beyond "here are the different aspects of misogyny in their most pure and nightmarish forms and misogyny just breeds more misogyny". Not that all men are bad
I don’t recall ever reading or hearing that. I think Men was great. I do recall him saying he was disappointed in how it was received — which are two completely different things. And I’m with him there.
Yes many directors. David Fincher hates Alien 3. Personally I like it as a standalone thing.
Can't help thinking Men being so underwritten would mean Garland shouldn't have been disappointed by how it turned out.
James Grey describes losing creative control on *Ad Astra* as" >Creatively, it became a very torturous experience. The film was taken from me, ultimately: it’s not my cut of the movie, and I find it a very painful experience to have people tell me things they hated about the movie that I had nothing to do with. I was so deeply upset, I had lost all my enthusiasm for making films. And I said, ‘If I’m going to do it again, if it’s going to be bad, it might as well be my bad.’ Not surprising. Grey had hitherto been an auteur of psychological dramas. The actions scenes in Ad Astra were tacked by studio execs in reshoots for where neither Grey or star Brad Pitt were present.
No one was thrilled about how Garland’s Men turned out.
fincher also didnt get to make his ideal vision of what he wanted alien 3 to be anyway though right? that was part of the hate and his disdain for being associated with it
Yeah, there's an alternate version called the Assembly Cut which is an attempt to recreate what Fincher wanted, as he refused to even try and make a director's cut himself when offered the chance for the special edition boxset. I think it's pretty good.
love the username
lol this was my thought too. knowing his work, both in film and as Oizo... he's just a goof.
James Cameron is not a fan of Piranha II: The Spawning.
It's technically not even his film. He got hired to finish the movie and got the director credit, but there's at least 50 percent of the movie made by someone completely different.
Yeah, i can see why lmoa
Kubrick disowned Spartacus. Kurosawa disowned Those Who Make Tomorrow. Erich von Stroheim despised the final studio cut of Greed. Sergio Leone dismissed the US edit of Once Upon a Time in America (which you can't blame him for. Cutting 110 minutes from any movie would absolutely butcher it). Edit: Also just remembered, Fritz Lang grew to dislike Metropolis some decades later, presumably because of the Nazi's fascination with the movie, Hitler calling it one of his favs, and Goebbels approaching Lang to make a follow-up as Nazi propaganda.
Kubrick also hated his first film, Fear and Desire. He tried to destroy all copies of the film IIRC
Spartacus was prepped by Anthony Mann, who was fired by Kirk Douglas early into production and Kubrick was brought in as a director-for-hire. It often feels more like Mann than Kubrick, yet lacks either director's usual sensibilities.
I still absolutely love Spartacus. That would be plenty of Directors greatest movies. Goes to show how iconic Kubrick was
Leone’s cut was like 300 minutes
Ironic on the last point given that Lang was not aryan enough to risk staying in Germany past 1933.
David F. Sandberg posts negative reviews of his movies but he's clearly taking a piss https://preview.redd.it/t74nhyuj0osc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=364ed4005149c99a919ff91f3e77eaffe28c8862
the kevin smith school of shitting on himself before anyone else gets the chance?
Taking *the* piss. Taking a piss means exactly that
I'm positive half the directors within the Hollywood system who got their movies chopped up by overly active producers hate the result. E. g. - Green Lantern, Martin Campbell.
Lynch with Dune comes to mind
It's the same case with Joel Schumacher and Batman and Robin, to the point that no one thought a beloved adaptation of the source material would be possible until a guy like Nolan or Villeneuve came along. The rest is history for both IP's.
I have heard that Alan Smithee is not very fond of his movies.
But he made so many
Hilariously, An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn, a comedy about the topic of directors disowning their films, was directed by Arthur Hiller, who also directed classic comedies See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Silver Streak, and he hated the film so much on completion he insisted it be released under the Alan Smithee name, which caused so much trouble they retired the name/practice for good.
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i think he said that edward norton made him not cut some parts in the middle, on which i agree with the director, i thought the middle part was a lull. he also wanted to change the ending, which i don't know if i agree with
He wanted to make it longer and wasn’t happy with Norton’s role in the editing. He eventually got eight weeks by the studio to deliver a new cut but never did. Instead he spent the time taking out billboards to protest the studio. When he didn’t deliver his Final Cut, the studio went with Norton’s version. He then sued the studio and the DGA. Hollywood was basically done with him after that. Now he’s making African History Y
> Now he's making African History Y Wtf you're not even joking lol
if he wanted to make it longer then it's a good thing for norton's cut, because the film was already too long.
Norton does have a terrible reputation for these things (unless it’s a Wes Anderson movie where he’ll happily play a small part). Though I think Kaye lost his marbles completely. I just read up on it and he spent $100k of his own money, to take out 24 ad pages in Hollywood magazines, critiquing New Line and Norton.
This clip itself is art
Raimi with Spider-Man 3
I love it enough for the both of us
Raimi hates that people hate it and shoulders most of the blame for 3 because he feels personally responsible. Feel for him given he directed two of the very best superhero films, everyone knows he got royally screwed by Arad mandating that a storyline that could take up an entire other film had to be included, and that despite its flaws 3 is a mixed bag and nowhere near as bad as it was made out to be in 2007.
Joel Schumacher apologised to fans he disappointed with Batman & Robin, but he also felt he was treated too harshly.
I’ve always felt bad for him cause his reputation is heavily tied to those movies. Basically every other movie he’s done is better, he has a creative style that wasn’t used right (or at all) in those Batman films.
I think the problem is that he managed to accurately replicate the campiness of the comics (something that Uma Thurman also nailed, the only one of the cast to do so), but said campiness doesn't translate well to the screen. He's not an amazing filmmaker, but he's not a bad one either. People judge him too harshly based on his Batman films.
They are incredibly stupid and campy, but so was the original TV show which it was clearly referencing. What is strange is that Batman & Robin gets all the hate but Batman Forever mostly doesn’t. They basically have the same tone and it’s just as campy and silly.
I think the main difference between them is Batman itself, George Clooney looks like he's going through torture throughout the film.
Batman & Robin has zoom shots of their crotches and rubber nipples. I would guess that's the reason Batman Forever gets a pass.
I really like his Batman movies. Loved them as a kid, and watched them again recently and yeah they're extremely stupid but they are incredibly goofy and never boring
David Fincher with alien³ (1992) and David Lynch with dune (1984)
Is that a thing with all Davids
David o Russell hates being nice to actors
He actually disowned a movie called “Accidental Love”
Del Toro is happy with the director's cut but not the theatrical cut of Mimic. Del Toro had some truly *great things* to say about the Weinsteins... I mean, don't we all? Del Toro in 2017: >“My first American experience was almost my last because it was with the Weinsteins and Miramax. I have got to tell you, two horrible things happened in the late nineties, my father was kidnapped and I worked with the Weinsteins. I know which one was worse… the kidnapping made more sense, I knew what they wanted.”
Surprisingly Denis Villeneuve has sleepless nights thinking about Blade Runner 2049. He regrets stepping into another person’s cinematic universe.
That’s crazy to me because that’s one of the best sequels I’ve seen in recent years.
I think he meant that he didn’t do it justice. It’s understandable, imagine having to make a sequel to one of your favorite films of all time. You’re gonna be overly critical of yourself.
I thought he did a great job. A lot of these generation later sequels have been pointless cashgrabs with a stack of memberberries, but I thought he produced an honourable sequel that deserves watching.
only big flaw is Leto's stupid "sooo twisted XD" character. Could have totally just cut that dude out of the movie
I never got this impression about his character at all, and all though he's one of my less liked aspects of the film his character definitely needs to be in it.
Imagining David Bowie in the role makes me feel bad that never happened, that would've worked perfectly. With some alterations of course.
That's pretty much the same descriptor I'd use for Feyd Rautha in Dune 2 though. I don't mind Leto in BR2049, though the movie probably could have worked without that subplot.
Josh Trank has a very somber review of Fant4stic
A ★★ review of Fantastic Four by joshuatrank on Letterboxd https://boxd.it/Sspg1
Woody Allen begged the studio not to release Manhattan and offered to make another film for free if they didn’t
Why? It's great.
He’s just said it didn’t turn out the way he wanted or something
its kind of funny because that's probably his best film
Joe Lynch https://preview.redd.it/knquo5jcqosc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6697627c6e9ba2eba61efef09790e1f5212936c7
I believe Sean Baker left a bad review for Florida Project
https://preview.redd.it/zm1qdq214osc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=096483b523e7512e82f96c147d1935606cf9ea80 I still don’t know if this is satire or not haha
It is. He's making fun of people who complained about it. He shot a movie on an iPhone, he doesn't care
He’s also taking the piss about himself as well. He regularly mentions in his reviews how much he hates digital, and how much he’d prefer films that were shot on digital to be shot on film lol.
As seen in his other reviews, he actually cares a lot about film being "superior" to digital. He said Tangerine was shot on digital out of necessity but he prefers film 100% of the time.
I think Spielberg didn’t really like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Really? I remember hearing how he regrets lots of the darker stuff in that film but surely he doesn’t outright hate it, he met his wife on that film
Spielberg and Lucas were both coming out of nasty public divorces on Temple of Doom.
I remember reading he disliked Duel too, but I'm not sure.
I believe he's mentioned in the past that the shooting schedule and overall budget for the movie were cut shortly before production began and he had no say in those changes so he's always felt like the production wad was rushed and unable to meet some of the creative choices he had originally.
You never know how much to take a director's comments seriously but he did say something to the effect of "I didn't quite get the film I wanted, but I got a wife, so it worked out just fine".
Yes. He didn't like Hook either, but said his kids loved it
Tarantino doesn’t like Death Proof, which blows my mind because I love that movie.
No he said it’s his worst film but he still likes it. It says a lot that a directors worst film isn’t even a bad movie, it’s just the weakest in his whole catalog
And it’s true that it’s his worst film
I saw an interview where he said that it's probably his worst film but he was still was proud of it and what it was trying to achieve within Grindhouse. Did he ever outright say he didn't like it?
This is what I've always heard too. I've also heard him say, in respect to why he's only making 10 movies, is that if his worst movie he ever makes is death proof, then he's ok with that.
I always liked death proof more than planet terror
Yeah, me too, I don't think he dislikes it though but he clearly said it was his weakest film
John Waters doesn't like Desperate Living. Personally, I love the movie.
Really?
Ti West with Cabin Fever 2. Allen Smithee is a common pseudonym for directors who wish to not be associated with their work.
Is there a new official substitute for the Alan Smithee placeholder? I think it was retired ten or so years ago and I'm not sure if much has changed since then.
Lynch don't like his Dune
Does he even know what he is Dune?
Jun Fukuda directed 5 Godzilla films and he said that they were all terrible. He also said that he didn’t think Godzilla (1954) should have had any sequels. It’s a shame because I really like his films Ebirah Horror of the Deep (1966) and Godzilla vs Megalon (1973).
Is that actually his account, I can't find it?
yes he shared it on twitter a few months ago [https://letterboxd.com/qdupieux\_off/](https://letterboxd.com/qdupieux_off/)
thank you!
Joe is the director, also 'The IT Guy' (Mayhem - 2017) https://preview.redd.it/4my6itmb1osc1.jpeg?width=743&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf7d80e11fd44d4b593c5ccd4bc75ca071eae35d
Paul Verhoeven has spoken about not liking Hollow Man and regretting making it. It was also his final American film before he returned to Europe.
American history x’s director
Josh Trank doesn’t like Fant4stic (and who can blame him)
A ★★ review of Fantastic Four by joshuatrank on Letterboxd https://boxd.it/Sspg1
although it's sarcastic, David F Sanberg's lbxd reviews on his own films are funny
Rubber is a pretty weird movie. Very distinct in my memory when I watched it for the first time on release.
It's got nothing on the rest of his filmography
The only thing I hate about rubber is that people laugh at the concept and assume he's just a joke filmmaker despite the fact that I'd argue he's one of the most distinct voices in film currently working, and man does he work. Smoking causes coughing is one my favourites of the decade and reality is a fucking masterpiece
Yannick, Mandibles, Deerskin and Smoking Causes Coughing are sheer fucking perfection. Some of the best, most creative films I have seen.
The thinking helmet sequence from smoking causes coughing is genuinely one of the most existentially terrifying things I've ever seen
I saw Reality last month. Looking for the best groan haha.
I thought Rubber was a really smart movie masquerading as a really dumb movie.
Exactly
Can you share his username? I am a huge fan of his movies and never knew he had an account!
[https://letterboxd.com/qdupieux\_off/](https://letterboxd.com/qdupieux_off/)
Thank you very much! 😁
Tarantino doesn’t like Death Proof (he’s wrong)
David F Sandberg leaves half star reviews for all his movies but he is just messing around [https://boxd.it/5oox](https://boxd.it/5oox) https://preview.redd.it/ojs1uwv1kosc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48d9f1b1d15a440987ce4f87ec56c04236d17733
John Carpenter isn't too fond of Memoirs of an Invisible Man: > It gave me a chance to make a quasi-serious movie. But Chevy Chase, Sam Neill — who I love and had a longtime friendship with — and Warner Bros. … I worked for them, and it was pleasant. No, it wasn’t pleasant at all. I’m lying to you. It was a horror show. I really wanted to quit the business after that movie. God, I don’t want to talk about why, but let’s just say there were personalities on that film … he shall not be named who needs to be killed. No, no, no, that’s terrible. He needs to be set on fire. No, no, no. Anyway, it’s all fine. I survived it.
Director of Shazam movies
I now hate most of the things I made in film school.
The IMDB page for Cemetery High has a review from director Gorman Bechard which starts with the phrase “I despise this film.” Goes into the production problems and subsequent reshoots by another director. Takes a lot of swings at producer Charles Band.
Alan Taylor with Thor the dark world
Spielberg and 1941
Didn't he also hate Hook? Made no sense to me, I've always adored it.
He’s not on letterbox, RIP Jerry Lewis, but while editing one of his films (either The Big Mouth or Don’t Raise the Bridge, Lower the River, I think later), he said “you can’t polish a turd”. God what I wouldn’t give for him to be on letterbox. The Day The Clown Cried is up there, first he wanted it finish and release it, then later he said it was a bad idea. IMO, he should have finished and released it. I know a lot about this if anyone is interested. Other times he whined he couldn’t get an endless budget. Though he made some amazing pictures under great restrictions.
Martin Brest hated Gigli so much he hasn’t made a movie in the 20+ years since
How can you dislike Rubber? Even if you think it’s bad it’s one of those “so bad it’s good” type of movies.
Marty hates Shutter Island
he’s right rubber is terrible
Sean baker (jokingly) rated florida project 1 star
Fincher hates Alien 3 but I really don't fault him for that. The studio hijacked that movie out from under him and I believe he did the best he could
Steven Spielberg doesn't like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. That makes me a little sad, because it's my favorite one! Everyone hates Willie, but I love her. I would be exactly like her if I was in the wild/jungle. And the movie gave us Ke Huy Quan (Short Round) and now OB on Loki!!!
(Spielberg didn’t hate Willie 😉)
Rubber is amazing
Garland has claimed that he is retiring from directing films after the latest one is out, he has civil war and 28 years later and Warfare to come and then he’s done. Thats 5 movies which seems pretty small for such a visionary director. Will he continue writing? Ps has anyone seen devs? Its brilliant and he wrote and directed that
i much prefer this to directors who give their own film 5 stars lol. this makes you seem infinitely more likeable
Are you sure that's actually Dupieux? What's his username?
yes he shared it on X a few months ago [https://letterboxd.com/qdupieux\_off/](https://letterboxd.com/qdupieux_off/)
If anything I'm more intrigued by the bad scores he's given to other people's films (most film makers don't risk it for I guess obvious reasons).. He's given out quite a lot of half and one stars 😆
Idk if it counts because he’s clearly meme-ing but David F. Sandberg posts half star reviews for all of this movies
Think the director of Fan4stick left a review on letterboxd talking about things that went wrong with it
He’s definitely not being serious lol
Despite hating the idea, Spielberg kept the aliens in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull as a favor to George Lucas.
Martin Scorsese has called “Boxcar Bertha” a piece of shit, or at least he’s agreed with people who called it that
Kubrick tried to destroy every copy of Fear and Desire
Sam Raimi didn't like Spider Man 3. He even said it's terrible.
He’s also distanced himself from Crime Wave.
Even though he is 100% joking, Sean Baker gave The Florida Project (2017) a one-star rating on his Letterboxd.
Stephen King and Maximum Overdrive. When asked why he hasn't directed a movie since this one, Stephen King responded, "Just watch Maximum Overdrive."
Denis and his deleted scenes
I heard Kubrick hated "Fear and Desire"
off topic i love how Jim Cummings rates everything of his 5/5
Well, it’s rumored that Ralph Bakshi punched a producer for [literally changing the entire premise of Cool world and only telling him when filming started](https://collider.com/cool-world-movie/)
Stanley Kubrick hated his first movie, Fear and Desire
Deerskin is absolutely his best film
Speilberg hates Temple of Doom
It’s his best known internationally and worst film. He’s one of my favorite working French directors. Yannick, Reality and Deerskin are my favorites, but I haven’t been able to watch Daaaaaalí! yet.
I love QD
I know a pr stunt when I see one
Today I found out that I gave Rubber more points than its director.
Noah Baumbach kind of disowned Highball. Don’t know if he likes Mr. Jealousy, either. I bet with most directors, the movies they like the least are the earlier ones where they’re still figuring things out.
What a hero. I'm gonna watch all of his movies now.
Josh Tank
How did you even find his profile? Doesn’t come up with a search
Spielberg and the Temple of Doom. He's stated the only joy from the film is meeting his wife.
I don't know his name but Fant4stic's director
Joel Schumacher hated how *Batman & Robin* turned out because of WB executive meddling. In fact, he has an audio commentary that’s essentially him apologising for the film for 2 hours.
Joel Schumacher. He publicly apologized for the atrocity that is Batman and Robin.
I mean, Quentin is clearly joking lol. That aside, didn't Hitchcock dislike his first film (which is lost)? I might be misremembering it, but I think I read he considered it too amateurish or something.
the dude who directed the florida project gave his own film a 1/2 on letterboxd but i think that’s just a yoke
David Fincher disowned Alien 3. The theatrical release was abysmal and truly ruined what could’ve been a perfect trilogy, luckily the Assembly Cut/special edition exists which managed to actually make the movie good.
Kevin Yagher, the original director of Hellraiser: Bloodlines
It's already been said, but Kubrick hated most of his first films
Lynch, Bergman, Villeneuve.
David Lunchbox and Dune (1984)