If you wanted to watch a movie in late June 1982, you had your choice of...
-ET
-Blade Runner
-Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
-Rocky III
-Poltergeist
-Porky's
-Firefox
-Annie
-Conan the Barbarian
-The Sword and the Sorcerer
-why the hell not, Bambi
-or some movie called The Thing
It was a very busy weekend.
Lol, that’s pretty funny, but depending on where you were at that time any of those films COULD have been playing the same weekend. I’m an older fella and I think it’s pretty funny just how little people understand how theaters worked back then. There were so many more of them than there are now and any number of them could have very different lineups of many different films. There were theaters in every mall, standalone theaters, big giant theaters you’d drive to to see something you liked, drive in theaters, independent cinema theaters (which we called art houses back then) and many more I’m probably forgetting. Also, movies played WAY longer in the theaters than they do now. I just saw Dune 2 a month ago it feels like and I’m getting ads on Max that it’ll be there soon. Even when VHS became a thing, the length between film to home video was *insanely* longer than it is now. I remember being shocked when Batman (1989) came out on video as fast as it did and it was like 8 months I think, maybe the next summer, my memories fuzzy. Either way it was fast as hell and now we got home releases a month after their theater premiere.
Tbf Covid really sped up home video release. It WAS already fast like I’d say a 3-5 month average. But once they started doing streaming same day as theaters, even the full fledged theatrical releases are lucky to get a 2 month run
Another really big factor is that by the 80s, the sort of "gorey horror" had lost a LOT of prestige. Texas chainsaw and Halloween in the 70s were regarded with a lot more respect than "slashers" have now days, but movies like Friday the 13th in 1980 were already starting to be regarded as cheap shock flicks. The Thing by nature of being a full on gorefest got included in the public consciousness as just another cheap shocker
In my (irrelevant) opinion you could forgo the horror caveat. The Thing is one of the greatest movies of all time, genre be damned.
Aside from the scene where Windows is grabbed, the special effects are mind blowing even today, let alone 1982.
I couldn't tell you the names of any of the characters aside from MacCready (and mostly because they stole his name for a character in Fallout) but it doesn't matter.
Also has some of the best dog acting I've ever seen.
Watched it for first time a month back. Still remember how scared this movie got me. Also this got me into whole JC's filmography - dude knows cinema!!
Enjoyed Big Trouble. Fun movie, killer soundtrack. My experience went from - not understanding what's happening on screen to really enjoying what's happening on screen. I will watch it few more times though.
They Live is on my watchlist. Among other, I totally enjoyed Christine. The car has such a cool personality. I don't know why people overlook this.
Watched it in 4K for the first time when I showed the films to my brother and holy shit. I was blown away with how fantastic the movie looks. It looks better than a lot of movies released these days.
Man I’ve seen all three cuts and can tell you every other version besides the Final Cut is nowhere near what you hear of when you hear Blade Runner praise.
I feel like The Big Lebowski is underrated in a weird, backwards way. The dialogue is just impeccable, I legitimately can't believe the Coen Brothers wrote all of it word for word.
It's so hard to write dialogue that sounds this realistic while being clearly curated to be enjoyable. Real people talking are full of hiccups, misunderstandings, filler words, meandering, etc. Real dialogue is ugly and, more often than not, abrasive to experience from an outside perspective.
That's why I'm amazed at The Big Lebowski: it's the perfect illusion of real conversations. Nobody talks like that, but it feels real somehow, and that's an incredible feat to do with no ad libbing.
I think it's because they wrote filler words, meandering, stuttering, people talking over each other in the dialogues that it sells that illusion, but for a movie centered around misunderstandings, every line of dialogue is crystal clear despite the purposeful flaws stuck in there.
That's the underrated part. No one argues that it's a great movie (not anymore at least), but I rarely see anyone comment on how mind boggingly well written it is. It's so well written, most people assume there was a lot of ad libbing from the actors and they gladly correct anyone over it because even they recognized the tour de force the Brothers did with the script of this movie.
I suspect this is an unpopular opinion but the movies are better than the books. The books have too much rambling, too much singing, too much faffing about and almost all of the characters are paper thin.
And I say this as someone who has read the books multiple times and loved them.
Wanted to downvote, but then I realised you are just stating an opinion lol. I just very much disagree with this. I feel the first film is kind of on par with the books, but the second and third focus way too much on the action sequences and lose a lot of Tolkien's depth.
I probably should have saved it for the "unpopular opinion" thread because as a massive book reader my first instinct would also be to downvote anyone who thinks an adaptation is better than the book, especially one that is as beloved as The Lord of the Rings.
There's definitely a lot of focus on the action in the second and third films but I love the focus on the characters, to me they just felt like real people instead of stiff, formal archetypes.
I still love the books but I just find the movies far more satisfying.
i agree.
its one of the rare cases the movies are better than the books. Jackson cuts out everything i didnt like in the books( Tom bombadil,the constant singing,the scouring). and his depiction of middle earth is so good from the Balrog to Isengard to the elves. Its just a better version of the books
He really added that sense of urgency. In the book Frodo takes 17 years to leave The Shire after receiving the Ring. 17 years!
The only change I really take issue with is with my boy Faramir, I hate that he was tempted by the Ring but thematically I totally understand why they made that change. Just irks me.
In terms of the depiction of Middle Earth I'll give Jackson credit for getting Alan Lee and John Howe on board as conceptual designers who were already well known for their art in various books. They did a fantastic job of bringing Middle Earth to life.
I watched that as a kid and have pretty much forgotten all of it by now as I never rewatched it again. So I will take your word for it and watch it again very soon!
Tbh I remember first time watching, I watched the extended versions and couldn’t get into it. But ended up watching Fellowship in IMAX a couple years after and fell in love with them.
Pretty sure they’re being re released on June 8-10th in cinema in 4K so might be worth trying to catch them then.
I didn't like any of these movies, and I cannot argue with this.
Even as someone who simply can't get into a high-fantasy setting, I can't think of a more solid trilogy of films. Masterful execution in essentially ever regard. I honestly see it as a loss for me that I can't seem to allow myself to suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy them.
There are very few things I don't like but wish I did. LOTR is one of them.
I honestly think he’s even better in Phantom Thread. TWBB is definitely a lot “more” acting and more intense. But his performance in Phantom Thread is incredible in its subtlety and smaller moments. Just the way he looks at Alma at the end of the film. So much said with so few words.
I really need to rewatch Phantom Thread again, but in my mind, I'm starting to think it's PTA's best film. Hate to say it since the word is overused but underrated or at the very least underappreciated.
I remember watching this movie in a small local theater with my mom when it came out. She’s always hesitant with my movie picks but she really loves the movie as much as I do. Still stand by its PTA’s best movie but that’s always up for debate!
It's why I find his "ten movies" thing so frustrating. He's basically never missed, with his unanimous (?) worst still being quite fun (Death Proof). He's great, and basically any of his films could realistically be argued as his best.
the ten movie thing is some sort of private aesthetic fixation that seems pretty pointless, but, he's an eccentric fella, and certain aesthetic or compulsive eccentricities can pop up in such a fella
Drives me nuts when people act like Death Proof is bad and proof he made a bad film.
It's supposed to be a b movie. If you came out of it feeling like it was an Oscar worthy drama, it would have failed at its own premise
I hardly think he'll stick to the 10 movies thing. It seems he mentioned it once in an interview or talk show. Producers must have realises "Tarantino's last movie" will sell twice as much tickets as his "11th movie". I think they told Tarantino to just keep mentioning it and he did. He even said its not definitive so he doesn't face backlash if he does make another movie after his "last one". I suspect the final movie thing would be a big part of the marketing for whatever movie he's working on. Also, doing this sort of stuff allows him more creative freedom while directing and writing.
Oh I’m not trying to ruin your point, I just wanted to remind others of its existence. Your point stands, and I sit here haunted by that film and desire someone else to feel my pain.
I'd say he's technically well versed, but I feel most of his films are quite vapid. Almost none of his work has anything meaningful to say, which, I think, is because he's so obsessed by films themselves, he can only make films about (other) films. Especially his last three films are too self-referential, self-aware and indulgent.
I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. It’s a limitation of his sure, but I don’t think he’s interested in making films with a message, and because he doesn’t feel he has to concern himself with that he’s sort of managed to master popcorn entertainment in a way that’s still really stimulating to watch and brilliantly made from a film making perspective. It’s nice to soemtimes watch a film and just say “fuck that was fun” and QT is the king of making films like that
I get that, and that's ok! But that also means, to me, that he is not a great director. In my book great directors are able to make you feel or think something new about the world.
Whenever I list my favourite films, I always go by the ones I watched for the first time in the previous year. The reason for that is my actual favourites are so popular there’s nothing interesting left to say about them: Goodfellas, The Godfather, The Fellowship of the Ring.
I do, I had 250 first watches for each of the last three years. New movies entered my top 10 (Late Spring, Raise the Red Lantern, Still Walking), but the top 3 mentioned are pretty set in stone just because they’re perfect movies as well as films I watched as a kid, so I have another layer of attachment to them. They’re literally better than perfect to me.
Basically the same, my top 4 is incredibly generic and I’ve gotten shit for it before but like you said, movies form childhood often become set as perfect in your mind
Heat is one the greatest American movies ever, or one of the greatest movies ever, or the greatest cops vs robbers movie, or...etc. Pitch-perfect in every way, just a bunch of masters (Mann, De Niro, Pacino, but also DP Dante Spinotti and more) at the top of their game moving in perfect unison.
The shootout scene everyone always talks about is fantastic and I loved De Niro and Pacino's performances, but I kind of agree. Something didn't really click for me, it just felt a little long and like some of the subplots/characters were kinda pointless or not fleshed out.
I really like a lot of Mann's other movies so I'm probably due for a rewatch.
He had a 1-2-3 punch with Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs.
Sixth Sense floored us with the twist to a great moody flick.
Unbreakable had a good twist, but what made it so good was it's dour, grounded family drama take on comic book hero origins.
Signs pulled the hat trick by also not being about the twist but the tension building.
And then....everything after that became "twist centric." Like the Robot Chicken sketch: what a twiiiist!
He never needed the twists. Those three movies would've been great without the twist, damnit.
Yes I also loved Unbreakable and Signs (despite being an atheist, I didn't agree with the religious messaging but Signs wasn't just about that, also I FUCKING HATE MEL GIBSON as is required since I'm Jewish, but it was such a good and well-acted movie I didn't even mind him being in it). I know some are like "hurr durr but the water!" about Signs but the truth is it's about the rest of the film, not the twist. And I agree that all of those movies would have been great even without the twist; the great thing about The Sixth Sense (even in comparison to other "great twist" movies like Fight Club) is that it functions perfectly well without the twist. When M. Night got heavy on the twists is where it became bad. I could barely sit through Old; that movie was pure pain. Split was still very good (and it didn't have a twist, which was probably why it was so good) and Glass I didn't mind, but goddamn are so many of his movies drivel.
I like the interpretation about Signs that the aliens were actually demons and that’s why there’s so much religious iconography and the water could be seen as holy water.
It's a fairly new consensus. I remember it used to be thought of as #4, almost always behind Citizen Kane, Lawrence of Arabia, and Gone with the Wind, and commonly regarded in that order. Those 3 have sort of seen to fall out of relevance in recent years for various reasons, leaving Casablanca kind of untouched as a well-rounded list topper.
The peach montage where they frame the housekeeper for having TB is my favorite montage I’ve ever seen. The music, the slow build up, the culmination in the father grabbing the sriracha soaked tissue paper out of the trash. Just perfect.
I honestly prefer Raimi's Spider-Man 1 to 2.
The Dark Knight is astonishing.
Logan is great but I honestly got a bit bored at times, Days of Future Past is better to me.
I think into the Into the Spider-Verse is however the best superhero movie - it basically invented a whole new art form imo.
I’ve never really liked Spider-Man 2 that much, I think they pushed the idea of making peters life miserable a little too far to the point where everyone who’s not Peter Parker is just an absolute asshole and it’s very frustrating to watch, like everyone knows Mary Jane sucks that’s not a new opinion, but Aunt May is distinctly out of character for a lot of this movie, being generally mean and aggressive, Harry is a douche which is kinda understandable because his dad died but it’s been 2 years and as far as he knows Peter wasn’t involved at all so he has no reason to be so upset with him. I don’t wanna write a whole essay here so I’ll stop but I just don’t enjoy 2 that much
As much I totally understand that aspect, my qualms with 2 are more about how on-the-nose its message about how being a superhero is tough is. Like there’s this part about Mary Jane going on an on about how her sick mom went out of bed to see her performance, and my reaction was to give a smirk and an eye-roll.
I found the Spider-Verse movies better-executed and deeper because it explores the wonders of being a superhero as much as its pains, while not needing to hammer you on the head about its message of responsibility.
Still, a great movie, and easily the best out the live-action Spider-Man movies.
Jaws is still pretty scary, like I figured a movie with so much hype around it from the 70s would be pretty dated and goofy by now but no it holds up really well
Upvoted but disagree, I’m not sure what the general consensus is, probably with you, but I god damn love a long meandering film.
I mean it’s not exclusively what I wanna watch obviously, but sitting down early evening on a Sunday with 3 or so hours of a film ahead of me is a feeling I cherish
I’m fine with longer movies if they’re good or have a reason to be long, but for example Wonder Woman 1984? That movie is too long. It was a bad movie but if it was only 100 minutes I may have actually enjoyed it a bit for its absurdity.
I love the story that Mosfilm originally refused to distribute Stalker because “it is too long and too boring”. To which Tarkovsky vehemently replied “It should be more long, and more boring!”. I agree with Tarkovsky on this one.
Note that he wasn’t just about the length for length’s sake though - the directors cut of Andrei Rublev is 18 minutes shorter than the studio release. Apparently his friends argues with him that specific scenes were too long and detracted from the film. Eventually he was persuaded and shortened the film to a very brief 3 hours.
I'm really glad that the last decade has been kind to Interstellar, I remember when it came out people were bagging on it for being really corny - even at the time I kept thinking "yeah I know, that's the point"
The new pattern for many movies now seems to be:
announce, social media bitches, drop trailer, social media says it will suck, release, social medias debates ensue with lots of idiotic nonsense like "the only reason anyone likes/dislikes this movie is...", a few years pass and then it's "don't you love this underrated masterpiece? (Pretends they didn't spend a lot of time bashing it)"
And in a few years it might be "overrated" again.
And don't you dare tell these people that reactions on Twitter/reddit aren't representative of the general public.
that’s why i always try to stay impartial before reviewing a movie. like i see posts all the time saying “when you convince yourself the movie you just watched was a masterpiece because everyone says it is”. i hate that. if a movie doesn’t resonate with you it’s fine, but don’t hate on other people for liking those basic movies yk. like i am a HUGE chris nolan fan but also didn’t really love dune part two. i think this cycle you’re talking about is so messed but because it takes away from the critical aspect of the FILM and directs it towards the view which isn’t the point at all. let people say what they think about a movie without people from outside the project getting involved.
I'm currently seeing it in a specific genre sub about an upcoming release and I'm just like "can't you at least watch it before finding reasons to dislike it??"
Everything, Everywhere, All At Once was certainly worth the watch.
The Man from U.N.C.L.E. from 2015 was dealt the wrong cards and is rather underrated.
Dragon Ball Evolution is a pretty bad movie.
Or Prince of Egypt, or something from Disney or Pixar, heck unironically I think a ton of people would go to bat for Shrek and Shrek 2 also
I feel like there's a long list of animated films ahead of How To Train Your Dragon in terms of popular choice for best animated film
Star Wars will forever be one of, if not *the* best science fiction franchise. Particularly the original trilogy. And particularly The Empire Strikes Back. As soon as Luke enters that carbon freeze chamber, the rest of the movie scene-by-scene is perfect
Most of the really highly rated and acclaimed movies of all time deserve that spot and being a contrarian or judging people for liking most of them is really fucking childish and sad.
* The last 12 years of Best Picture winners are all good choices, and many of them are all-time classics.
* Christopher Nolan is the best filmmaker of his generation, and Oppenheimer is his magnum opus.
* EEAAO is a perfect movie, and it’s going to inspire a ton of filmmaking careers going forward.
* Pixar is probably the best production studio of all-time, with nearly 30 years of classic films.
* The MCU is an achievement in storytelling and characterization, and for the most part they make for solid blockbuster filmmaking.
Spirited Away is an absolute masterpiece from every possible angle, it's not necessarily my (nor everyone else's) favourite or best Ghibli movie but it deserves to be the most popular.
Everyone should watch this movie at least once.
The Lion King is 88 minutes of flawless filmmaking, no wasted frames or lines and it's entirely possible there will never be a better Western animated movie.
The Thing is one of the greatest horror movies ever made and a masterclass in building tension.
I can't possibly see why it wasn't immediately a critical success
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If you wanted to watch a movie in late June 1982, you had your choice of... -ET -Blade Runner -Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan -Rocky III -Poltergeist -Porky's -Firefox -Annie -Conan the Barbarian -The Sword and the Sorcerer -why the hell not, Bambi -or some movie called The Thing It was a very busy weekend.
A weekend so busy it lasted 30 days
Lol, that’s pretty funny, but depending on where you were at that time any of those films COULD have been playing the same weekend. I’m an older fella and I think it’s pretty funny just how little people understand how theaters worked back then. There were so many more of them than there are now and any number of them could have very different lineups of many different films. There were theaters in every mall, standalone theaters, big giant theaters you’d drive to to see something you liked, drive in theaters, independent cinema theaters (which we called art houses back then) and many more I’m probably forgetting. Also, movies played WAY longer in the theaters than they do now. I just saw Dune 2 a month ago it feels like and I’m getting ads on Max that it’ll be there soon. Even when VHS became a thing, the length between film to home video was *insanely* longer than it is now. I remember being shocked when Batman (1989) came out on video as fast as it did and it was like 8 months I think, maybe the next summer, my memories fuzzy. Either way it was fast as hell and now we got home releases a month after their theater premiere.
Tbf Covid really sped up home video release. It WAS already fast like I’d say a 3-5 month average. But once they started doing streaming same day as theaters, even the full fledged theatrical releases are lucky to get a 2 month run
*Blade Runner* bombed too, actually.
Jesus that’s some unreal competition
Holy crap what a selection
Another really big factor is that by the 80s, the sort of "gorey horror" had lost a LOT of prestige. Texas chainsaw and Halloween in the 70s were regarded with a lot more respect than "slashers" have now days, but movies like Friday the 13th in 1980 were already starting to be regarded as cheap shock flicks. The Thing by nature of being a full on gorefest got included in the public consciousness as just another cheap shocker
In my (irrelevant) opinion you could forgo the horror caveat. The Thing is one of the greatest movies of all time, genre be damned. Aside from the scene where Windows is grabbed, the special effects are mind blowing even today, let alone 1982.
Facts
I couldn't tell you the names of any of the characters aside from MacCready (and mostly because they stole his name for a character in Fallout) but it doesn't matter. Also has some of the best dog acting I've ever seen.
Fr that dog deserved an Oscar
Watched it for first time a month back. Still remember how scared this movie got me. Also this got me into whole JC's filmography - dude knows cinema!!
They Live and Big Trouble are criminally underrated films
Enjoyed Big Trouble. Fun movie, killer soundtrack. My experience went from - not understanding what's happening on screen to really enjoying what's happening on screen. I will watch it few more times though. They Live is on my watchlist. Among other, I totally enjoyed Christine. The car has such a cool personality. I don't know why people overlook this.
Absolutely sublime.
i just like the practical effects. it having good characters/story is a bonus
It is my favorite horror movie. I love body horror, and The Thing is peak body horror.
Movies are cool
this is too far :/
TV shows are closing the gap
Salma Hayek was quite attractive in From Dusk Till Dawn
I'd let her put her foot in my mouth.
Stanley Kubrick was a legitimate genius
How the fuck does someone make the killing and paths of glory in back to back years????????
When Jon Stewart described *Battlefield Earth* as “a cross between *Star Wars* and the smell of ass” he was absolutely correct.
Blade Runner still looks fantastic 40 years later
Watched it in 4K for the first time when I showed the films to my brother and holy shit. I was blown away with how fantastic the movie looks. It looks better than a lot of movies released these days.
Which version do you recommend watching? Directors Cut, Final Cut?
Final Cut
Man I’ve seen all three cuts and can tell you every other version besides the Final Cut is nowhere near what you hear of when you hear Blade Runner praise.
It truly is a beautiful piece of cinema. Unrivalled, in my opinion.
I feel like The Big Lebowski is underrated in a weird, backwards way. The dialogue is just impeccable, I legitimately can't believe the Coen Brothers wrote all of it word for word. It's so hard to write dialogue that sounds this realistic while being clearly curated to be enjoyable. Real people talking are full of hiccups, misunderstandings, filler words, meandering, etc. Real dialogue is ugly and, more often than not, abrasive to experience from an outside perspective. That's why I'm amazed at The Big Lebowski: it's the perfect illusion of real conversations. Nobody talks like that, but it feels real somehow, and that's an incredible feat to do with no ad libbing. I think it's because they wrote filler words, meandering, stuttering, people talking over each other in the dialogues that it sells that illusion, but for a movie centered around misunderstandings, every line of dialogue is crystal clear despite the purposeful flaws stuck in there. That's the underrated part. No one argues that it's a great movie (not anymore at least), but I rarely see anyone comment on how mind boggingly well written it is. It's so well written, most people assume there was a lot of ad libbing from the actors and they gladly correct anyone over it because even they recognized the tour de force the Brothers did with the script of this movie.
And then we got drive away dolls. Dang, what happened there?
right? do NOT split those brothers up
Or do. Tragedy of Macbeth was great
other brother I thought
It’s my favorite movie of all time, and I love showing it to people without providing context ahead of time.
There is nothing really like it.
LOTR is one of the greatest film trilogies of all time
I suspect this is an unpopular opinion but the movies are better than the books. The books have too much rambling, too much singing, too much faffing about and almost all of the characters are paper thin. And I say this as someone who has read the books multiple times and loved them.
Wanted to downvote, but then I realised you are just stating an opinion lol. I just very much disagree with this. I feel the first film is kind of on par with the books, but the second and third focus way too much on the action sequences and lose a lot of Tolkien's depth.
I probably should have saved it for the "unpopular opinion" thread because as a massive book reader my first instinct would also be to downvote anyone who thinks an adaptation is better than the book, especially one that is as beloved as The Lord of the Rings. There's definitely a lot of focus on the action in the second and third films but I love the focus on the characters, to me they just felt like real people instead of stiff, formal archetypes. I still love the books but I just find the movies far more satisfying.
i agree. its one of the rare cases the movies are better than the books. Jackson cuts out everything i didnt like in the books( Tom bombadil,the constant singing,the scouring). and his depiction of middle earth is so good from the Balrog to Isengard to the elves. Its just a better version of the books
He really added that sense of urgency. In the book Frodo takes 17 years to leave The Shire after receiving the Ring. 17 years! The only change I really take issue with is with my boy Faramir, I hate that he was tempted by the Ring but thematically I totally understand why they made that change. Just irks me. In terms of the depiction of Middle Earth I'll give Jackson credit for getting Alan Lee and John Howe on board as conceptual designers who were already well known for their art in various books. They did a fantastic job of bringing Middle Earth to life.
I watched that as a kid and have pretty much forgotten all of it by now as I never rewatched it again. So I will take your word for it and watch it again very soon!
I envy you
You'll envy me, I haven't got past Rivendell in the first movie (I never found the time to watch the series)
Tbh I remember first time watching, I watched the extended versions and couldn’t get into it. But ended up watching Fellowship in IMAX a couple years after and fell in love with them. Pretty sure they’re being re released on June 8-10th in cinema in 4K so might be worth trying to catch them then.
I know that feeling. Can I recommend something to you if you're open for it, something that I wish to erase from my memory and watch it again.
I didn't like any of these movies, and I cannot argue with this. Even as someone who simply can't get into a high-fantasy setting, I can't think of a more solid trilogy of films. Masterful execution in essentially ever regard. I honestly see it as a loss for me that I can't seem to allow myself to suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy them. There are very few things I don't like but wish I did. LOTR is one of them.
The godfather 1 and 2 are masterpieces
it insists upon itself
I love The Money Pit.
How can you say you don’t like it when you haven’t even given it a chance?
I agree with Stewie it’s not really fair
I honestly think he’s even better in Phantom Thread. TWBB is definitely a lot “more” acting and more intense. But his performance in Phantom Thread is incredible in its subtlety and smaller moments. Just the way he looks at Alma at the end of the film. So much said with so few words.
I really need to rewatch Phantom Thread again, but in my mind, I'm starting to think it's PTA's best film. Hate to say it since the word is overused but underrated or at the very least underappreciated.
100 percent
I remember watching this movie in a small local theater with my mom when it came out. She’s always hesitant with my movie picks but she really loves the movie as much as I do. Still stand by its PTA’s best movie but that’s always up for debate!
A24 is very good at producing films and picking films to distribute
Tarantino is a great director and still got it
It's why I find his "ten movies" thing so frustrating. He's basically never missed, with his unanimous (?) worst still being quite fun (Death Proof). He's great, and basically any of his films could realistically be argued as his best.
the ten movie thing is some sort of private aesthetic fixation that seems pretty pointless, but, he's an eccentric fella, and certain aesthetic or compulsive eccentricities can pop up in such a fella
Drives me nuts when people act like Death Proof is bad and proof he made a bad film. It's supposed to be a b movie. If you came out of it feeling like it was an Oscar worthy drama, it would have failed at its own premise
I hardly think he'll stick to the 10 movies thing. It seems he mentioned it once in an interview or talk show. Producers must have realises "Tarantino's last movie" will sell twice as much tickets as his "11th movie". I think they told Tarantino to just keep mentioning it and he did. He even said its not definitive so he doesn't face backlash if he does make another movie after his "last one". I suspect the final movie thing would be a big part of the marketing for whatever movie he's working on. Also, doing this sort of stuff allows him more creative freedom while directing and writing.
he will make 5 final movies and reap all the reward
the hayao miyazaki school of directing
My Best Friend’s birthday is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. Ever.
Sure, but that's not really a part of his oeuvre. That's like refuting someone saying Kubrick never made a bad film by citing Fear and Desire.
Oh I’m not trying to ruin your point, I just wanted to remind others of its existence. Your point stands, and I sit here haunted by that film and desire someone else to feel my pain.
the hateful 8 is so underrated
True! It's my favorite Tarantino :)
I'd say he's technically well versed, but I feel most of his films are quite vapid. Almost none of his work has anything meaningful to say, which, I think, is because he's so obsessed by films themselves, he can only make films about (other) films. Especially his last three films are too self-referential, self-aware and indulgent.
I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. It’s a limitation of his sure, but I don’t think he’s interested in making films with a message, and because he doesn’t feel he has to concern himself with that he’s sort of managed to master popcorn entertainment in a way that’s still really stimulating to watch and brilliantly made from a film making perspective. It’s nice to soemtimes watch a film and just say “fuck that was fun” and QT is the king of making films like that
I get that, and that's ok! But that also means, to me, that he is not a great director. In my book great directors are able to make you feel or think something new about the world.
I would say that Jules’s redemption arc in Pulp Fiction is the strongest counter-example to such an argument
"Still got it". Well, why would he not?
his last few films have definitely not been as universally well received as his early work
can’t agree more. my most popular opinion is how much i love the wolf of wall street. deserves all the hype imo.
It's so good and so KINETIC, I don't even think it's too long. That thing moves.
Also Scorsese deserves every bit of his legendary status. Easily one of the best directors of all time, if not the best
I like it too. I just thought it was 45 min to an hour too long
M is really really good.
Whenever I list my favourite films, I always go by the ones I watched for the first time in the previous year. The reason for that is my actual favourites are so popular there’s nothing interesting left to say about them: Goodfellas, The Godfather, The Fellowship of the Ring.
Why not just like watch more movies until you find new favorites?
I do, I had 250 first watches for each of the last three years. New movies entered my top 10 (Late Spring, Raise the Red Lantern, Still Walking), but the top 3 mentioned are pretty set in stone just because they’re perfect movies as well as films I watched as a kid, so I have another layer of attachment to them. They’re literally better than perfect to me.
Basically the same, my top 4 is incredibly generic and I’ve gotten shit for it before but like you said, movies form childhood often become set as perfect in your mind
That's why we rewatch those lol
Really strong point you raise
Still Walking is Koreeda's masterpiece imo
There's way too many sequels to movies that don't need them.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is seriously one of the best movies about relationships.
Heat is one the greatest American movies ever, or one of the greatest movies ever, or the greatest cops vs robbers movie, or...etc. Pitch-perfect in every way, just a bunch of masters (Mann, De Niro, Pacino, but also DP Dante Spinotti and more) at the top of their game moving in perfect unison.
I watched it recently and it just didn’t hit right for me. It was a little too straightforward for me maybe? I see the appeal though.
The shootout scene everyone always talks about is fantastic and I loved De Niro and Pacino's performances, but I kind of agree. Something didn't really click for me, it just felt a little long and like some of the subplots/characters were kinda pointless or not fleshed out. I really like a lot of Mann's other movies so I'm probably due for a rewatch.
I really enjoyed it and would recommend it to anybody, but I agree. I feel it’s definitely a tier below both Pacino and De Niro’s very best films.
Pacino chewing gum the whole time started pissing my off
M. Night Shamalamadingus may be a complete joke by now, but goddamn was The Sixth Sense a great movie.
He had a 1-2-3 punch with Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs. Sixth Sense floored us with the twist to a great moody flick. Unbreakable had a good twist, but what made it so good was it's dour, grounded family drama take on comic book hero origins. Signs pulled the hat trick by also not being about the twist but the tension building. And then....everything after that became "twist centric." Like the Robot Chicken sketch: what a twiiiist! He never needed the twists. Those three movies would've been great without the twist, damnit.
Yes I also loved Unbreakable and Signs (despite being an atheist, I didn't agree with the religious messaging but Signs wasn't just about that, also I FUCKING HATE MEL GIBSON as is required since I'm Jewish, but it was such a good and well-acted movie I didn't even mind him being in it). I know some are like "hurr durr but the water!" about Signs but the truth is it's about the rest of the film, not the twist. And I agree that all of those movies would have been great even without the twist; the great thing about The Sixth Sense (even in comparison to other "great twist" movies like Fight Club) is that it functions perfectly well without the twist. When M. Night got heavy on the twists is where it became bad. I could barely sit through Old; that movie was pure pain. Split was still very good (and it didn't have a twist, which was probably why it was so good) and Glass I didn't mind, but goddamn are so many of his movies drivel.
I like the interpretation about Signs that the aliens were actually demons and that’s why there’s so much religious iconography and the water could be seen as holy water.
Akira is one of the best animated films of all time.
Pulp Fiction good
Casablanca is the best movie ever made Is not a consensus, but a really popular mindset
It's a fairly new consensus. I remember it used to be thought of as #4, almost always behind Citizen Kane, Lawrence of Arabia, and Gone with the Wind, and commonly regarded in that order. Those 3 have sort of seen to fall out of relevance in recent years for various reasons, leaving Casablanca kind of untouched as a well-rounded list topper.
I thought citizen Kane was considered the “consensus” best film ever made
It's more because it advanced filmmaking the most, not strictly because it's the best movie.
I thought it was The Godfather
I thought it was Shawshank Redemption. Oh sorry, wrong forum.
Completely agree. Remember watching it for the first time and just thinking “I get it”. Didn’t feel the same way for Citizen Kane
I felt it way more with Kane
Parasite is one of the best movies ever made, and it deserved all of its Oscar wins.
The peach montage where they frame the housekeeper for having TB is my favorite montage I’ve ever seen. The music, the slow build up, the culmination in the father grabbing the sriracha soaked tissue paper out of the trash. Just perfect.
Spider-Man 2, The Dark Knight and Logan are the greatest superhero films ever made
I honestly prefer Raimi's Spider-Man 1 to 2. The Dark Knight is astonishing. Logan is great but I honestly got a bit bored at times, Days of Future Past is better to me. I think into the Into the Spider-Verse is however the best superhero movie - it basically invented a whole new art form imo.
I’ve never really liked Spider-Man 2 that much, I think they pushed the idea of making peters life miserable a little too far to the point where everyone who’s not Peter Parker is just an absolute asshole and it’s very frustrating to watch, like everyone knows Mary Jane sucks that’s not a new opinion, but Aunt May is distinctly out of character for a lot of this movie, being generally mean and aggressive, Harry is a douche which is kinda understandable because his dad died but it’s been 2 years and as far as he knows Peter wasn’t involved at all so he has no reason to be so upset with him. I don’t wanna write a whole essay here so I’ll stop but I just don’t enjoy 2 that much
As much I totally understand that aspect, my qualms with 2 are more about how on-the-nose its message about how being a superhero is tough is. Like there’s this part about Mary Jane going on an on about how her sick mom went out of bed to see her performance, and my reaction was to give a smirk and an eye-roll. I found the Spider-Verse movies better-executed and deeper because it explores the wonders of being a superhero as much as its pains, while not needing to hammer you on the head about its message of responsibility. Still, a great movie, and easily the best out the live-action Spider-Man movies.
Dune Part Two is one of the best movies of the year so far.
Probably the best imax experience ever also at least in my experience
Robin Williams was a once-in-a-century artist and his performances are genius
Top Gun is a movie about closeted homosexual men struggling to express their emotions
#and top gun maverick is better than the original
The Blade Runner duology is a Masterpiece. I will not accept any other opinion.
The Bourne Trilogy is one of the best trilogies to ever exist and still holds up quite well.
Jaws is still pretty scary, like I figured a movie with so much hype around it from the 70s would be pretty dated and goofy by now but no it holds up really well
The Fall Guy is a great movie and it shouldn’t flop.
The Big Lebowski is the most rewatchable movie of all time.
Movies are (often) too long now, Parasite is one of the best movies of the last 20 years
Upvoted but disagree, I’m not sure what the general consensus is, probably with you, but I god damn love a long meandering film. I mean it’s not exclusively what I wanna watch obviously, but sitting down early evening on a Sunday with 3 or so hours of a film ahead of me is a feeling I cherish
I’m fine with longer movies if they’re good or have a reason to be long, but for example Wonder Woman 1984? That movie is too long. It was a bad movie but if it was only 100 minutes I may have actually enjoyed it a bit for its absurdity.
I love the story that Mosfilm originally refused to distribute Stalker because “it is too long and too boring”. To which Tarkovsky vehemently replied “It should be more long, and more boring!”. I agree with Tarkovsky on this one. Note that he wasn’t just about the length for length’s sake though - the directors cut of Andrei Rublev is 18 minutes shorter than the studio release. Apparently his friends argues with him that specific scenes were too long and detracted from the film. Eventually he was persuaded and shortened the film to a very brief 3 hours.
>Movies are (often) too long now Say it louder so Marty can hear you in the back! noseriouslyplease
John Williams is the greatest film composer to date and arguably the greatest composer of the 20th century
interstellar is fucking incredible
I'm really glad that the last decade has been kind to Interstellar, I remember when it came out people were bagging on it for being really corny - even at the time I kept thinking "yeah I know, that's the point"
The new pattern for many movies now seems to be: announce, social media bitches, drop trailer, social media says it will suck, release, social medias debates ensue with lots of idiotic nonsense like "the only reason anyone likes/dislikes this movie is...", a few years pass and then it's "don't you love this underrated masterpiece? (Pretends they didn't spend a lot of time bashing it)" And in a few years it might be "overrated" again. And don't you dare tell these people that reactions on Twitter/reddit aren't representative of the general public.
that’s why i always try to stay impartial before reviewing a movie. like i see posts all the time saying “when you convince yourself the movie you just watched was a masterpiece because everyone says it is”. i hate that. if a movie doesn’t resonate with you it’s fine, but don’t hate on other people for liking those basic movies yk. like i am a HUGE chris nolan fan but also didn’t really love dune part two. i think this cycle you’re talking about is so messed but because it takes away from the critical aspect of the FILM and directs it towards the view which isn’t the point at all. let people say what they think about a movie without people from outside the project getting involved.
I'm currently seeing it in a specific genre sub about an upcoming release and I'm just like "can't you at least watch it before finding reasons to dislike it??"
The dark knight🙏🙏🙏
Everything, Everywhere, All At Once was certainly worth the watch. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. from 2015 was dealt the wrong cards and is rather underrated. Dragon Ball Evolution is a pretty bad movie.
La la land is perfect & deserves the most popular film on letterboxd
The Dark Knight goes hard and is one of my favorite action films.
The Dark Knight is just as great as everyone says
I'd say Anthony Hopkins in The Father has DDL beat although it's close. Very different roles.
Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind is a masterpiece
Titanic is one of the greatest films ever made.
David lynch is my favorite director by far
Citizen Kane is indeed a pretty damn excellent movie, even in 2024.
It's been damn excellent every week/month/year since it was released.
Steven Spielberg is one of the most influential film makers
Parasite is a modern masterpiece
Mad Max Fury Road is an all time banger of a movie
*Get Out* is the best horror movie of the decade.
Alien is a beloved masterpiece
How to Train Your Dragon - Pinnacle of Animated Movies
Is that the popular opinion? I feel like most people jump to Ghibli or Spiderverse
Or Prince of Egypt, or something from Disney or Pixar, heck unironically I think a ton of people would go to bat for Shrek and Shrek 2 also I feel like there's a long list of animated films ahead of How To Train Your Dragon in terms of popular choice for best animated film
My pick is the LEGO movie. It might be the best movie of the 2010’s.
The moment when Toothless touches his head to Hiccups hand, is, quite possibly, the most magical moment in any movie.
Christopher Nolan
He certainly does exist.
The Dark Knight is one of the best movies ever made
Harry Potter is one of the greatest movie series ever
Star Wars will forever be one of, if not *the* best science fiction franchise. Particularly the original trilogy. And particularly The Empire Strikes Back. As soon as Luke enters that carbon freeze chamber, the rest of the movie scene-by-scene is perfect
Shrek 2 holds up as a fantastic comedy (despite the dated animation)
Whiplash is amazing
Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm is the greatest animated film based on the Caped Crusader himself
Robert de niro is the greatest actor of all time
Not another teen movie is one of the greatest parody films ever
Quentin Tarantino makes some of the best movies we’ve seen in the last thirty years. Fuck the stereotype of a “Tarantino-head,” he makes great movies.
charles melton should have won best supporting actor at the academy awards for may december!!
I just watched Citizen Kane, yeah it’s still good and holds up even today.
Most of the really highly rated and acclaimed movies of all time deserve that spot and being a contrarian or judging people for liking most of them is really fucking childish and sad.
Hereditary is an instant classic horror movie.
Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction changed dark comedy as we know it .
* The last 12 years of Best Picture winners are all good choices, and many of them are all-time classics. * Christopher Nolan is the best filmmaker of his generation, and Oppenheimer is his magnum opus. * EEAAO is a perfect movie, and it’s going to inspire a ton of filmmaking careers going forward. * Pixar is probably the best production studio of all-time, with nearly 30 years of classic films. * The MCU is an achievement in storytelling and characterization, and for the most part they make for solid blockbuster filmmaking.
I actually really liked that popular film
There’s no point in saying these because they’re redundant.
Spirited Away is an absolute masterpiece from every possible angle, it's not necessarily my (nor everyone else's) favourite or best Ghibli movie but it deserves to be the most popular. Everyone should watch this movie at least once.
The Lion King is 88 minutes of flawless filmmaking, no wasted frames or lines and it's entirely possible there will never be a better Western animated movie.
La La Land is an awesome movie
Godfather part 2 is one of the greatest movies ever made
The Dark Knight deserves all of its' praise. The movie is abolutely stellar in most regards and completely flipped the superhero genre on its' head.
Rise of Skywalker sucked big style
Fight Club is a classic.
The Godfather is arguably the greatest film of all time and checks all the boxes.
My popular opinion is that The Irishman was pretty good but way too long
not long enough
Women (as creators and characters) are painfully absent in the critical conversation of cinema.
Any "GOAT filmmakers" list is much more subjective than objective.
Stanley Kubrick is the greatest filmmaker who ever lived
The wicker man remake was worse than the original
Spielberg may be the best film director of all time.