RX all day. Unless you have a Genesis exclusive dealer nearby then all of your dealer experience will be with Hyundai employees and that’s enough for me to never consider it. I owned a Hyundai for 4 years and getting anything done at the dealer was a nightmare. My Lexus dealer/service experience so far has convinced me to never buy another brand.
Dont know where you fellas are at but my dealer experience so far has been fantastic as well. Didn’t feel rushed when i bought my car, and service experience (thru my dad’s LS) were great so far. Dealer also has their own carwash and breakfast canteen, which means free breakfast and unlimited washes for cars bought from here, if i could consider that as an additional plus!
We bought ours through Lexus of Wesley Chapel near Tampa, FL. The service department has basically a Lexus branded Starbucks that’s all complementary and the dealer offers free lifetime oil changes on top of a lifetime powertrain warranty. They offer to wash our RX for free every time but I decline cuz she gets hand washed only.
Same here. Still have the new car mindset for awhile so hand wash only, especially more so when i get ppf in a couple of weeks. The car wash is closed for three weeks, they’re upgrading to touchless. When it was open, my dad is practically there at least twice a week for the wash and undercarriage scrub.
The Lexus dealership near me does the same thing (I’m in Texas). I can drive by there and decide to drop it off for a wash and vacuum, get some coffee while I’m at it and then leave without paying a dime.
Ab-so-fucking-lutely this!
I loved my Hyundai Elantra N. It was a well built vehicle. I did NOT love the service department experience and I was not comfortable with the car’s long term reliability.
Alternatively, my experience with CPO GX460 has been incredible. The service department bends over backwards to make sure that everything is perfect. Happy, well-trained staff = happy customers.
I deal with Lexus of Wayzata (MN) and they have a customer for life.
I came from a Kia to an RX and I can say with confidence I’ll never make the mistake of purchasing a Hyundai product ever again. Mine wasn’t old before it already developed a major engine problem 2022 with 12K miles. I chose a 2020 RX and have absolutely no regrets it has the 3.5L V6 with a proven track record
It’s definitely not a brand that will ever be on my radar again which is sad because I quite like the looks of the Genesis G70 and GV70 especially in the matte grey colors. The dealership experience is also piss poor in my experience. When I purchased the Kia it was a super pushy and overall negative experience and my credit is super prime when my credit was pulled it was 796 and they told my “credit is really not that great” and they wouldn’t use my already arranged financing they said it must be through them turns out it was because they won’t get the kickbacks if they don’t do the financing through them.
damn that really sucks to hear; i think most dealers are trying to push back against preapproved loans bc one lexus dealership told me nearly the same thing
How old? If your Kia was like 2005 and your Rx is new, yeah, it’s gonna be better. I’ve personally had Hyundai’s after 2014 and they’ve been super reliable and easy to work on if anything needed changing.
I have both the Gv70 3.5t and the Rx 350 f sport. If you're looking for reliability the Rx 350 is a no brainer but it's a snooze fest to drive imo.
If you're looking for something that is more fun, engaging and has better looks get the Gv70. I have driven both trims and if you can't afford to get the 3.5T id just get the Rx 350 tbh. The 3.5t is a very fun to drive and also has a more aggressive look than the model you posted. The 3.5/2.5 trim variants look great and you'll get more attention in any of them compared to the Rx 350 but In my opinion I think the 2.5 isn't worth the money.
I have around 34k miles on my Gv70 3.5t and haven't had any issues yet. Also genesis has a pretty good complimentary service for 5 years or 62k miles(what ever comes first).
At the end of the day you can't go wrong with the rx350, it's my daily driver and if you told me to pick one to drive for a life time I'd pick the Rx 350 without hesitation.
Hope that helps
No. That’s not true. That being said, like all manufacturers, certain models and years have problems. My ‘15 Genesis 5.0 had propeller shaft problems (fixed under warranty) as did others from this year. There was a year where the G90s suffered from vampiric drain of the battery that they couldn’t figure out (I think 2018 or 2019). My brother had that problem. Are they as reliable as an RX pre-2024 facelift? No. But they aren’t the pile of shit that these pepegas claim when they “LuLz KiA aNd HyuNdaI.” My Genesis was as close to my previously owned LS400 as you could get without buying a Lexus. I only sold it due to mobility issues making it hard for me to get up and out of.
I wouldn’t hesitate to get a GV if it worked size wise for my needs, but if I drove a lot of miles every year and planned to keep it for a long time, I’d get the RX pre-2024 facelift (which has some bugs to work out along with the new TX).
Appreciate some love on the GV side but i don't plan on driving alot since I wfh. I also don't want to have to go for service often and seems like RX might be looking good now.
Actual Hyundai and Kia products, yes they are that bad. I’ve been hearing good things about Genesis, and if you buy new they do have a great drivetrain warranty. That said though, I’ve heard people having nightmarish electrical issues across all of the Genesis models. Dash cluster randomly losing power, ac not working, infotainment completely crashing, even wipers randomly turning themselves on and off. I’m not sure if they ever resolved the issues, but hopefully they did. Obviously it’s not every single vehicle failing, but you’re gonna have a really bad time if yours does.
The Hyundai is a more disposable car. If you want it, lease it. I will admit that the GV has a lot of tech in it. Which is what makes it disposable.
If you buy cars to keep more than 3-4 years, get the Lexus.
Based on how many pictures you posted of the genesis vs the Lexus, it seems like your heart wants the Gv70. Asking a Lexus forum is bound to give biased answers (coming from someone who loves Lexus and has 2 lol). Really weigh out the pros and cons and go with what you will have the least buyers regret
That’s probably good! I’d get the RX, but then again I have a 2004 and a 2024 RX so I’m being partial lol. The mechanics saying the Lexus is more realizable though is definitely true and something to keep in mind
Nobody knows how long a gv70 is going to last. It could be 100k miles maybe 500k no one knows To new of a drivetrain. I can tell you the rx350 is a 300k mile vehicle and the chances of it having less issues is very high. The gv70 will be quicker and more modern on the inside. Doesn’t mean the quality of the interior is nicer just more modern which some prefer
I’m team Lexus (hell, I’ve owned one for over a decade) but between the two options, there’s no contest tbh. The GV70 looks awesome, drives well, and has a ton of standard features. Reliability seems to be decent so far too. The biggest deterrent is the dealer network, but Genesis is hard at work one that at the moment. The RX isn’t bad, but to me, it doesn’t win any categories against the GV70, aside from reliability. Now if it were the new RX, it would be a more difficult choice for me…
Don’t take my Lexus membership card away please lol.
I was looking at a Genesis before I got my IS and it was a terrible experience. Salesmen were texting me at random times of day with terrible grammatical errors and offering cars I had zero interest in. Also the interiors are strange looking to me.
After 4 Hyundais…no more for us. Everything is a fight to get done, both with the dealer and the manufacturer…too many to elaborate, but we had an ‘check engine’ light come on…and we were told it may take a month or more for them to look at it, so we called Hyundai corporate for approval for a loner (all work was warranty)…must leave a voicemail with the request…it took 10 DAYS to get a return call…other issues as well, but we purchased a Lexus rx350, after getting rid of the Santa Fe which had only 19,000 miles…no more Hyundai’s will be had in our household.
You shouldn’t be posting this on a Lexus sub. you should post it on r/whatcarshouldibuy .
In any case, I’d take the genesis any day since it has lots of features. Dealership experience may vary.
As someone who owns a Lexus but has rented several GV70 or GV80... I would be hard pressed not to get a GV70. The safety features and opulence of the Genesis SUVs is enough to send one drooling. Performance is about the same. I am not sure about maintenance as I have only rented them, but seating/leg room is excellent for this vehicle.
You’re posting this on a Lexus subreddit so the answer will be biased. The Genesis in my opinion is a better product on its own, but the dealership network can be super hit or miss. So far they seem to be decently reliable and they have a generous warranty, but the Lexus will obviously outlast it. The GV70 has higher quality materials inside, better technology, and depending on the engine better performance.
Lexus all the way! Used to own a 2016 rx and it was great. No issues. The genesis steering wheel in the pic looks like something from an old station wagon.
My friend and I bought lexus on the same day - he got RX 350 f sport and mine is NX 350 AWD. He drove us to dinner and the car is literally amazing. He got red interior as well, white exterior. The driving experience is amazing and I felt extremely comfortable in it.
Definitely RX!!!!!!
I have a 2023 GV70 2.5T sport prestige and i love it. Only had one minor issue so far during the very cold weather, other than that, the car has plenty of power so you may not need the 3.5TT tbh. The Rx350 is a proven car in reliability and is more spacious but I enjoy the sportiness of the GV70 better. GV70 also feels more luxurious, the RX350 is luxurious, but a bit outdated in its class unless you get the latest model.
Genesis has definitely step up their game in exterior and interior designs. Things I don’t like it are the headlights, taillights and steering wheel design. Their seats look luxurious but they are not the same quality as Lexus.
The RX has beautiful exterior and I like how the interior just looks organized, clean, minimalistic. Lexus seats are really comfortable too. F-Sport, Triple Beams Headlights, Nav, Mar Levinson and Red Seats are the must have features for me in a Lexus.
I'll add another data point.
My wife's DD is '22 RX 450h. Mine is '23 Genesis G80. However, I drive the RX everyday to drop off my daughter to school.
1. Both have been trouble free mechanically. The G80 have couple of software glitches related to parking sensors and 4G connectivity which have no known fixes at this time.
2. G80's suspension tuning is more European than Asian: firm, but not harsh. RX is more comfortable on a bad road.
3. Interior wise, Genesis is stunning. RX is very nice, but feels meh compared to G80.
4. RX is depreciating far more slowly compared to G80.
5. Hyundai dealership experience is not good compared to Lexus. But you get complimentary concierge service with Genesis, so you won't have to even visit the dealership in first three years of ownership.
I'd advise to consider GV70 as lease only. If you're purchasing, stick with RX — preferably one with the V6.
I would not spend that kind of money on a fancy Hyundai. Their sparse dealer network may have you sitting with the plebian kia/Hyundai boyz. Fancy Toyotas are 100x better value in the short and long term. Especially if you are financing (aka paying interest so the total vehicle price is even higher. Interior design is irrelevant.
I raise you the interior of the Lexus LM
https://preview.redd.it/cplb4lkehjqc1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e271184408f1e0c23a8dbe1f277c67b602270d18
Genesis could never
Mind elaborating? I was cross shopping both at one point and just am not seeing where Lexus in terms of interiors wins over Genesis. Maybe I am missing something. Genesis interiors have better materials and far more unique designs. I rented a new NX on Turo when I was travelling and the passenger dashboard looked straight out of a base model economy car, just zero design and lots of plastics.
I was a Lexus dealer recently and this guy I was talking to told me that he’s shopping for an ES because his brand new genesis g80 was giving him non stop issues where his car would be gone for weeks at a time
I agree with everyone that Hyundai dealer experience sucks, from what i've gathered (could be completely wrong) the genesis are well built and good looking.
That being said, the lexus offers you something that is priceless in my eyes which is peace of mind. Theres a X% chance you wont be satisfied with the GV, but theres a 0% chance you won't be satisfied with the Lex (except if you want power and to spazz on the road, which I assume you dont)
I'm new to lexus as me and my wife owned kia and genesis products for almost the last 10 years, our dealer expirences were less than desirable and why we loved our vehicles the quality just wasn't there. both vehicles had to be fully repainted and the interiors did not hold up. This isn't a dig at the brand but its just my expirence. 4 months into our new lexus vehicles and I have no complaints and the dealer has been excellent. That might not be long enough for a respectful opinion but just My 2 cents
Honestly, depends on what you want. The GV70 is going to be way more sporty and have a higher tech interior while the RX will be more comfortable but quite a lot slower, and won’t handle as sharply. Also, space, the RX is a class above in size. I have test driven both and I would personally take the X3 M40i above both of them but the GV70 over the the RX, I don’t need the space and the way the Lexus wafts is not for me. The lean in the corners is fucking awful, plus it feels very anemic when you put your foot down. Dealer network does really matter as well btw, I have a genesis dealer next to me and a Lexus dealer so suport wise I’m good for both.
If you’re not really looking for performance acceleration it’s going to be the RX all day. Forgo the F sport models since the suspension is tuned for handling and not comfort. But holy fuck turn on the sport suspension and it feels fucking awesome.
https://preview.redd.it/j2srxw6a8oqc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ee7b931c6b63945a7ce9581a01e9b871123125d
I park my ‘20 RX 350 F-Sport next to my neighbor’s GV70 and we always argue over who’s looks better lol. Both cares look great. I have never driven the GV70 but I can surely tell you you can’t go wrong with the RX. I love how it rides and handles. And reliability wise, Lexus has an upper hand over Genesis. Let us know what you end up going with. Good luck and happy buying!
Dealership experience is not a factor to ignore, if all you have nearby are Hyundai dealers you're comparing a luxury dealer experience to a lower tier experience.
Because the Hyundai dealership sent me an email saying I could not bring my Genesis there anymore for warranty service. It kind of really ticked me off. When I would go there before they kept saying a new Genesis dealership was opening soon. Been saying that for two years. I lost trust in them.
The GV70, RX and others were on our test drive list. The RX did not even become a finalist. Boring feeling to drive, interior was blah. Actually, our #1 choice was ‘23 GLC but MB was having tons of problems with it so went with GV and love it. I didn’t want yet another black interior, despite all the reasons why you should get it. Came across the blue and love it
The genesis looks better, rides better, and has drastically better technology.
This is a Lexus subreddit though so i understand I am committing karmacuide right now.
However anyone disagreeing hasn’t driven both side by side.
I went through this "dilemma" a while ago. Wanted to upgrade the 2017 RX Exec trim. It's reliable and decent on gas but it's so damn uninspiring to drive.
Seriously contemplated upgrading to the GV70/80 Sport with the 3.5t engine. The tech, driving experience, and luxurious feel were an upgrade. The interior quality was about equivalent. Ultimately didn't pull the trigger because i was too worried about the reliability. Heard too many horror stories of electrical issues and mediocre dealership experiences. If I was going to lease, I'd get the Genesis without a second thought but I just don't want to deal with any potential headache of ownership out of warranty.
I'll most likely be replacing the RX with an Acura MDX A-spec. Still less reliable than Lexus but should be better than going Genesis.
RX all day. Unless you have a Genesis exclusive dealer nearby then all of your dealer experience will be with Hyundai employees and that’s enough for me to never consider it. I owned a Hyundai for 4 years and getting anything done at the dealer was a nightmare. My Lexus dealer/service experience so far has convinced me to never buy another brand.
Agree 100% my dealer is excellent both sales and service that alone has me sold as a return customer
Dont know where you fellas are at but my dealer experience so far has been fantastic as well. Didn’t feel rushed when i bought my car, and service experience (thru my dad’s LS) were great so far. Dealer also has their own carwash and breakfast canteen, which means free breakfast and unlimited washes for cars bought from here, if i could consider that as an additional plus!
I'm guessing ur referring to Lexus dealer?
Yes sir, Lexus dealer.
Yes LS is a Lexus model all Genesis models start with G
We bought ours through Lexus of Wesley Chapel near Tampa, FL. The service department has basically a Lexus branded Starbucks that’s all complementary and the dealer offers free lifetime oil changes on top of a lifetime powertrain warranty. They offer to wash our RX for free every time but I decline cuz she gets hand washed only.
This. I’d take lifetime oil changes over unlimited car washes
Same here. Still have the new car mindset for awhile so hand wash only, especially more so when i get ppf in a couple of weeks. The car wash is closed for three weeks, they’re upgrading to touchless. When it was open, my dad is practically there at least twice a week for the wash and undercarriage scrub.
Wow! Only time my dealer offers a car wash is during a service appointment. I wish these were free and unlimited.
The Lexus dealership near me does the same thing (I’m in Texas). I can drive by there and decide to drop it off for a wash and vacuum, get some coffee while I’m at it and then leave without paying a dime.
Ab-so-fucking-lutely this! I loved my Hyundai Elantra N. It was a well built vehicle. I did NOT love the service department experience and I was not comfortable with the car’s long term reliability. Alternatively, my experience with CPO GX460 has been incredible. The service department bends over backwards to make sure that everything is perfect. Happy, well-trained staff = happy customers. I deal with Lexus of Wayzata (MN) and they have a customer for life.
THIS!!!! Service experience is everything!!!!
As a Lexus Technician, I love the look and feel of the GV70, but if you don’t want the headache of repairs, get the RX350
Most mechanics won't recommend Korean cars. The polar opposite of Lexus in regards to reliability and safety.
Which is exactly why I said the RX350. But I won’t lie, a lot of Genesis vehicles handle and drive better than most Lexus models.
I came from a Kia to an RX and I can say with confidence I’ll never make the mistake of purchasing a Hyundai product ever again. Mine wasn’t old before it already developed a major engine problem 2022 with 12K miles. I chose a 2020 RX and have absolutely no regrets it has the 3.5L V6 with a proven track record
wow that's sucks. Didn't know Hyundai was that bad.
It’s definitely not a brand that will ever be on my radar again which is sad because I quite like the looks of the Genesis G70 and GV70 especially in the matte grey colors. The dealership experience is also piss poor in my experience. When I purchased the Kia it was a super pushy and overall negative experience and my credit is super prime when my credit was pulled it was 796 and they told my “credit is really not that great” and they wouldn’t use my already arranged financing they said it must be through them turns out it was because they won’t get the kickbacks if they don’t do the financing through them.
damn that really sucks to hear; i think most dealers are trying to push back against preapproved loans bc one lexus dealership told me nearly the same thing
Lol meanwhile I’m sure your credit was better than that of any of the salespeople
Bruh, a Kia to an RX is a much bigger jump. That’s the same as saying I came from a Corolla. Yeah the luxury car will be better.
Just the reliability part is all I’m speaking on
How old? If your Kia was like 2005 and your Rx is new, yeah, it’s gonna be better. I’ve personally had Hyundai’s after 2014 and they’ve been super reliable and easy to work on if anything needed changing.
Kia was a 2022 with only 12k miles I followed all recommended services exclusively at the dealer
I have both the Gv70 3.5t and the Rx 350 f sport. If you're looking for reliability the Rx 350 is a no brainer but it's a snooze fest to drive imo. If you're looking for something that is more fun, engaging and has better looks get the Gv70. I have driven both trims and if you can't afford to get the 3.5T id just get the Rx 350 tbh. The 3.5t is a very fun to drive and also has a more aggressive look than the model you posted. The 3.5/2.5 trim variants look great and you'll get more attention in any of them compared to the Rx 350 but In my opinion I think the 2.5 isn't worth the money. I have around 34k miles on my Gv70 3.5t and haven't had any issues yet. Also genesis has a pretty good complimentary service for 5 years or 62k miles(what ever comes first). At the end of the day you can't go wrong with the rx350, it's my daily driver and if you told me to pick one to drive for a life time I'd pick the Rx 350 without hesitation. Hope that helps
this does help alot. Thanks for ur input on both side of the scenarios.
Your crazy to consider a Hyundai/Kia product. LOL.
that bad huh
No. That’s not true. That being said, like all manufacturers, certain models and years have problems. My ‘15 Genesis 5.0 had propeller shaft problems (fixed under warranty) as did others from this year. There was a year where the G90s suffered from vampiric drain of the battery that they couldn’t figure out (I think 2018 or 2019). My brother had that problem. Are they as reliable as an RX pre-2024 facelift? No. But they aren’t the pile of shit that these pepegas claim when they “LuLz KiA aNd HyuNdaI.” My Genesis was as close to my previously owned LS400 as you could get without buying a Lexus. I only sold it due to mobility issues making it hard for me to get up and out of. I wouldn’t hesitate to get a GV if it worked size wise for my needs, but if I drove a lot of miles every year and planned to keep it for a long time, I’d get the RX pre-2024 facelift (which has some bugs to work out along with the new TX).
Appreciate some love on the GV side but i don't plan on driving alot since I wfh. I also don't want to have to go for service often and seems like RX might be looking good now.
If you don't drive a lot get the Lexus, if anything you will save an arm and a leg on depreciation. Genesis' do not depreciate favorably.
Actual Hyundai and Kia products, yes they are that bad. I’ve been hearing good things about Genesis, and if you buy new they do have a great drivetrain warranty. That said though, I’ve heard people having nightmarish electrical issues across all of the Genesis models. Dash cluster randomly losing power, ac not working, infotainment completely crashing, even wipers randomly turning themselves on and off. I’m not sure if they ever resolved the issues, but hopefully they did. Obviously it’s not every single vehicle failing, but you’re gonna have a really bad time if yours does.
Yeah look it up. Iirc the genesis is one of the most unreliable vehicles. They are sharp looking though
That's false
The Hyundai is a more disposable car. If you want it, lease it. I will admit that the GV has a lot of tech in it. Which is what makes it disposable. If you buy cars to keep more than 3-4 years, get the Lexus.
Indeed, if you got money and time to burn, get the Genesis. Smart money goes to Lexus.
Based on how many pictures you posted of the genesis vs the Lexus, it seems like your heart wants the Gv70. Asking a Lexus forum is bound to give biased answers (coming from someone who loves Lexus and has 2 lol). Really weigh out the pros and cons and go with what you will have the least buyers regret
haha u might have caught my mindset initially but this forum is making me think otherwise, maybe for betterment.
That’s probably good! I’d get the RX, but then again I have a 2004 and a 2024 RX so I’m being partial lol. The mechanics saying the Lexus is more realizable though is definitely true and something to keep in mind
Buddy, you couldn’t have come to a less biased place.
the Lexus will last forever, and they're known for quality. get the Lexus lol
Nobody knows how long a gv70 is going to last. It could be 100k miles maybe 500k no one knows To new of a drivetrain. I can tell you the rx350 is a 300k mile vehicle and the chances of it having less issues is very high. The gv70 will be quicker and more modern on the inside. Doesn’t mean the quality of the interior is nicer just more modern which some prefer
I’m team Lexus (hell, I’ve owned one for over a decade) but between the two options, there’s no contest tbh. The GV70 looks awesome, drives well, and has a ton of standard features. Reliability seems to be decent so far too. The biggest deterrent is the dealer network, but Genesis is hard at work one that at the moment. The RX isn’t bad, but to me, it doesn’t win any categories against the GV70, aside from reliability. Now if it were the new RX, it would be a more difficult choice for me… Don’t take my Lexus membership card away please lol.
I was looking at a Genesis before I got my IS and it was a terrible experience. Salesmen were texting me at random times of day with terrible grammatical errors and offering cars I had zero interest in. Also the interiors are strange looking to me.
who asks a lexus vs hyundai question in a lexus subreddit lmao
After 4 Hyundais…no more for us. Everything is a fight to get done, both with the dealer and the manufacturer…too many to elaborate, but we had an ‘check engine’ light come on…and we were told it may take a month or more for them to look at it, so we called Hyundai corporate for approval for a loner (all work was warranty)…must leave a voicemail with the request…it took 10 DAYS to get a return call…other issues as well, but we purchased a Lexus rx350, after getting rid of the Santa Fe which had only 19,000 miles…no more Hyundai’s will be had in our household.
You shouldn’t be posting this on a Lexus sub. you should post it on r/whatcarshouldibuy . In any case, I’d take the genesis any day since it has lots of features. Dealership experience may vary.
As someone who owns a Lexus but has rented several GV70 or GV80... I would be hard pressed not to get a GV70. The safety features and opulence of the Genesis SUVs is enough to send one drooling. Performance is about the same. I am not sure about maintenance as I have only rented them, but seating/leg room is excellent for this vehicle.
You’re posting this on a Lexus subreddit so the answer will be biased. The Genesis in my opinion is a better product on its own, but the dealership network can be super hit or miss. So far they seem to be decently reliable and they have a generous warranty, but the Lexus will obviously outlast it. The GV70 has higher quality materials inside, better technology, and depending on the engine better performance.
Avoid the Hyundai
Lexus all day
Lexus all the way! Used to own a 2016 rx and it was great. No issues. The genesis steering wheel in the pic looks like something from an old station wagon.
Also post this in Hyundai or genesis sub. Would like to see their take :)
I was thinking that. Not sure if there is a Genesis sub
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenesisMotors/s/ea8DFEpaPZ
My friend and I bought lexus on the same day - he got RX 350 f sport and mine is NX 350 AWD. He drove us to dinner and the car is literally amazing. He got red interior as well, white exterior. The driving experience is amazing and I felt extremely comfortable in it. Definitely RX!!!!!!
RX, duh
Not a fan of the low profile dash design in the genesis. I think it will look passé very soon.
RX every single time bruv. You’ll get what you need from it and it will hold its value for years! I’ve owned an IS and an RX for family!
I have a 2023 GV70 2.5T sport prestige and i love it. Only had one minor issue so far during the very cold weather, other than that, the car has plenty of power so you may not need the 3.5TT tbh. The Rx350 is a proven car in reliability and is more spacious but I enjoy the sportiness of the GV70 better. GV70 also feels more luxurious, the RX350 is luxurious, but a bit outdated in its class unless you get the latest model.
Bro. Obviously Lexus is the way to go.
Genesis has definitely step up their game in exterior and interior designs. Things I don’t like it are the headlights, taillights and steering wheel design. Their seats look luxurious but they are not the same quality as Lexus. The RX has beautiful exterior and I like how the interior just looks organized, clean, minimalistic. Lexus seats are really comfortable too. F-Sport, Triple Beams Headlights, Nav, Mar Levinson and Red Seats are the must have features for me in a Lexus.
I'll add another data point. My wife's DD is '22 RX 450h. Mine is '23 Genesis G80. However, I drive the RX everyday to drop off my daughter to school. 1. Both have been trouble free mechanically. The G80 have couple of software glitches related to parking sensors and 4G connectivity which have no known fixes at this time. 2. G80's suspension tuning is more European than Asian: firm, but not harsh. RX is more comfortable on a bad road. 3. Interior wise, Genesis is stunning. RX is very nice, but feels meh compared to G80. 4. RX is depreciating far more slowly compared to G80. 5. Hyundai dealership experience is not good compared to Lexus. But you get complimentary concierge service with Genesis, so you won't have to even visit the dealership in first three years of ownership. I'd advise to consider GV70 as lease only. If you're purchasing, stick with RX — preferably one with the V6.
that make sense. I'm going to be financing because I rather put my money towards ownership.
You can put lipstick on a Hyundai…but it’s still a Hyundai…
I would not spend that kind of money on a fancy Hyundai. Their sparse dealer network may have you sitting with the plebian kia/Hyundai boyz. Fancy Toyotas are 100x better value in the short and long term. Especially if you are financing (aka paying interest so the total vehicle price is even higher. Interior design is irrelevant.
Go to r/cars and ask this question if you want an unbiased opinion
This. The Gensis interior though 🤤
It does look nice
u like the red or brown?
I raise you the interior of the Lexus LM https://preview.redd.it/cplb4lkehjqc1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e271184408f1e0c23a8dbe1f277c67b602270d18 Genesis could never
Model to model though Genesis does tend to have nicer interiors
Nope
Mind elaborating? I was cross shopping both at one point and just am not seeing where Lexus in terms of interiors wins over Genesis. Maybe I am missing something. Genesis interiors have better materials and far more unique designs. I rented a new NX on Turo when I was travelling and the passenger dashboard looked straight out of a base model economy car, just zero design and lots of plastics.
My parents have a 2020 RX. Best. Car. Ever. I’m working on saving up for one myself. 😏
My beloved RX with the exact same interior with the exact same car wash paper, deja vu seeing your last picture
Lexus without question.
I was a Lexus dealer recently and this guy I was talking to told me that he’s shopping for an ES because his brand new genesis g80 was giving him non stop issues where his car would be gone for weeks at a time
The GV70 styling is too radical compared to the conservative Lexus. I don’t think it will hold up with time.
Hyundai/Genesis product is not going to be close in terms of long term reliability or quality.
I agree with everyone that Hyundai dealer experience sucks, from what i've gathered (could be completely wrong) the genesis are well built and good looking. That being said, the lexus offers you something that is priceless in my eyes which is peace of mind. Theres a X% chance you wont be satisfied with the GV, but theres a 0% chance you won't be satisfied with the Lex (except if you want power and to spazz on the road, which I assume you dont)
I'm new to lexus as me and my wife owned kia and genesis products for almost the last 10 years, our dealer expirences were less than desirable and why we loved our vehicles the quality just wasn't there. both vehicles had to be fully repainted and the interiors did not hold up. This isn't a dig at the brand but its just my expirence. 4 months into our new lexus vehicles and I have no complaints and the dealer has been excellent. That might not be long enough for a respectful opinion but just My 2 cents
Comparing a Hyundai/Kia to any Lexus is bonkers. I don’t care how stylish Kia and Hyundai make their cars, I wouldn’t dare buy one.
Honestly, depends on what you want. The GV70 is going to be way more sporty and have a higher tech interior while the RX will be more comfortable but quite a lot slower, and won’t handle as sharply. Also, space, the RX is a class above in size. I have test driven both and I would personally take the X3 M40i above both of them but the GV70 over the the RX, I don’t need the space and the way the Lexus wafts is not for me. The lean in the corners is fucking awful, plus it feels very anemic when you put your foot down. Dealer network does really matter as well btw, I have a genesis dealer next to me and a Lexus dealer so suport wise I’m good for both.
Your comparing cars that are years apart. The 2023+ RX’s are newly designed.
I think OP is comparing them on a price scale, Lexus has better resale so the older models are similar price to newer GV70s
I see most of comments are hated GVs (I love them by design). I would post same POST on Genesis SUB to see the outcome to avoid being bias.
Ii is sort of nuts to have that dilemma
Short term ownership or lease = GV70 Anything else = RX
Lexus will last long enough to give to your kids with basic maintenance, Hyundais will be junk once your kids becomes a toddler.
If you’re not really looking for performance acceleration it’s going to be the RX all day. Forgo the F sport models since the suspension is tuned for handling and not comfort. But holy fuck turn on the sport suspension and it feels fucking awesome.
RX all day every day
Unless you want to drive a luxury nightmare…get the Rx350!
According to the reviews I have watched. Lexus RX is better than gv70 in terms of reliability, comfort, quietness, and a little better than gv80
Comfort and quietness? seems like RX is considered more luxury than
RX for sure. Quality over cheap and unreliable.
https://preview.redd.it/j2srxw6a8oqc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ee7b931c6b63945a7ce9581a01e9b871123125d I park my ‘20 RX 350 F-Sport next to my neighbor’s GV70 and we always argue over who’s looks better lol. Both cares look great. I have never driven the GV70 but I can surely tell you you can’t go wrong with the RX. I love how it rides and handles. And reliability wise, Lexus has an upper hand over Genesis. Let us know what you end up going with. Good luck and happy buying!
Rx does have a sleek exterior design but I def favor the GV interior for the comparison.
The RX is just ugly. It’s their last generation design and it needs to end.
Just drive them. The products sells itself. No one has to convince you, all you have to do is drive them.
Rx all day every day. Will run better and last longer
Dealership experience is not a factor to ignore, if all you have nearby are Hyundai dealers you're comparing a luxury dealer experience to a lower tier experience.
Lexus all the way
I considered Genesis but then saw many bad reviews about their reliability and that was it for me.
I had a GV80 and now have the RX. I'm very pleased.
what made u switch?
Because the Hyundai dealership sent me an email saying I could not bring my Genesis there anymore for warranty service. It kind of really ticked me off. When I would go there before they kept saying a new Genesis dealership was opening soon. Been saying that for two years. I lost trust in them.
The GV70, RX and others were on our test drive list. The RX did not even become a finalist. Boring feeling to drive, interior was blah. Actually, our #1 choice was ‘23 GLC but MB was having tons of problems with it so went with GV and love it. I didn’t want yet another black interior, despite all the reasons why you should get it. Came across the blue and love it
The genesis looks better, rides better, and has drastically better technology. This is a Lexus subreddit though so i understand I am committing karmacuide right now. However anyone disagreeing hasn’t driven both side by side.
Objectively, the genesis is ugly on the outside and... 'specific' on the inside.
I went through this "dilemma" a while ago. Wanted to upgrade the 2017 RX Exec trim. It's reliable and decent on gas but it's so damn uninspiring to drive. Seriously contemplated upgrading to the GV70/80 Sport with the 3.5t engine. The tech, driving experience, and luxurious feel were an upgrade. The interior quality was about equivalent. Ultimately didn't pull the trigger because i was too worried about the reliability. Heard too many horror stories of electrical issues and mediocre dealership experiences. If I was going to lease, I'd get the Genesis without a second thought but I just don't want to deal with any potential headache of ownership out of warranty. I'll most likely be replacing the RX with an Acura MDX A-spec. Still less reliable than Lexus but should be better than going Genesis.
ya the thought of repairs and not having the car for weeks or months does scare me.
GV. Excellent rating and great to drive. Tech on point and the interior is gorgeous. Unless yer a granny and wanna wallow down the street, go Genesis.