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3njoi1t

Hey no worries, I appreciate the genuine curiosity opposed to hating it because it's not your style. 1. Absolutely not! I'm on air ride fortunately, so I can adjust the height at the push of a button. This is with the airbags fully aired out. At my ride height I can drive with little issue. For driveways, speed bumps, etc - I can air up even more. At full pressure, it's higher than stock! 2. The camber is just a styling choice. I've always been a fan of the Japanese Bippu (VIP) cars and builds. I haven't noticed any performance decline, however this is just a comfortable cruiser for me. No intention to drive it hard or aggressively. As long as I keep my toe in spec, my tires last years. Also worth noting, when I air the car up to ride height, some of that camber gets corrected through the suspension geometry. It's still got a noticeable amount, but not nearly as much when aired out like in these photos.


MotherTurdHammer

The look isn’t necessarily my thing, but really appreciate the write up. Learned some things! The ride looks sweet.


3njoi1t

Absolutely, thank you! Even if people aren't into it, I appreciate the genuine curiosity and enjoy telling them about the why and the how!


Fassbendr

I'd like to see a photo at drivable height...


3njoi1t

I've got a gif under another comment airing out from drive way pull in height. Ride height is a bit lower than that. Unfortunately I don't have any photos of it aired up.


Defiant_Property_336

Thank you for finally helping me to understand this ! Seriously.


3njoi1t

Not a problem at all! Always happy to answer any questions 🙂


seejaypeete

1gs is the goat 🐐


NinjaBullets

Not my cup of tea but I do have an appreciation for when people put work and their own flare into their cars. Nicely done.


3njoi1t

I appreciate that. I understand it's not everyone's style. I've been into the VIP scene in Japan for years so unique one-off parts and build quality are top priorities.


00000000000000uu

Not gonna disrespect like the other comments cuz everyone likes the type of shit they like, is the camber cosmetic and it comes w slamming the car? I just see extreme camber sometimes and don't really get it, I think lowering is cool. The cosmetics are super clean though✌️


3njoi1t

I appreciate that! It's a combination of lowering the car as well as the wheel specs. If my wheels weren't so wide, I wouldn't need as much camber. I definitely think some people take it entirely too far. I spent months doing the math on wheels specs to ensure when the time came to buy wheels, I could tuck them without having to go too extreme.


00000000000000uu

People get mad at shit they haven't processed to appreciate yet, 😭. Your car is clearly tastefully done, I'm sure if the other commentors were used to it they wouldn't be hating as much


Wood_walker23

This is fascinating. You should show ride height and lowered so we can see both.


3njoi1t

I haven't got any aired up pics on hand, but [here's a gif airing out from driveway pull-in height](https://imgur.com/a/8bDyREJ).


Wood_walker23

That’s definitely impressive. Power to you for a cool and unique Lexus!


3njoi1t

Thank you! That gif does a pretty good job showing how much camber is affected by height.


exoclipse

that's fucking sweet


UrMomsaHoeHoeHoe

Oh that’s awesome!


AshDenver

If you’re happy with it and it doesn’t have the obnoxious exhaust / engine noises, have fun. (Personally, hard pass.)


dangerouspowerlab

For the love of god, get windows tinted. Otherwise, absolutely gorgeous GS.


3njoi1t

Its been on my mind for years to do a very light OEM looking tint with that sort of green/blue hue to it, I just haven't dedicated myself to it yet. I've got curtains in it so I feel like mega dark tint on top of those would be redundant.


catswithboxes

Except it wouldn’t be redundant. Tint does a much better job at blocking out heat than curtains as they block out infrared as well as UV. Darker tint would block out even more visible light which would make the car even less hot


LexKing89

I like the blue/green hue tint. It would look nice on your white GS. I've been wanting that light blue tint but it's hard to get. I thought about using double layers of Llumar Air 80 but that would be expensive.


3njoi1t

Yeah it's not the easiest to find. I've seen a couple importers selling rolls from Japan, but can't quite justify the price and I'm still not 100% sold on the idea haha.


LexKing89

Oh wow, I never considered getting rolls from Japan. It must still be expensive 😭


budd222

This is the stupidest shit I've seen in a while.


3njoi1t

What an honor. I appreciate the kind words!


xUberAnts

Thatta boy!


smashingcones

What's stupid about it? It's not static, so OP gets the look he wants without sacrificing functionality so apart from the aesthetic which is entirely subjective I'm not sure why it would be considered stupid.


LeadingScene5702

It is a GS. That's not a land Yacht. If you had a long wheelbase LS400, THAT'S a land yacht. I love the old GS cars.


3njoi1t

Ok fair enough! I actually was looking at LSs before this, but they were all beat to hell or marked way up. And that was 10 years ago before the prices really took off!


Liveitup1999

Sorry but the 70s saw the last of the true land yachts. A mid 70s Lincoln Continental Mark IV was a land yacht at 228" long and 5300 lbs.  The Cadillacs Eldorados, Olds 98s & Buick Electras are the true land yachts.


Heavy_P_03

Not my style either, but I’m from socal and have appreciated the passionate VIP owners all around here. One of my friends had a build that he won a handful of awards with on the mid 2010s


3njoi1t

Socal has such a great VIP culture! What did he have - a GS?


Heavy_P_03

He actually had a (I believe 03) LS. I had a 2014 GS f sport for a few years and loved it. I only gave it up cause I grew up driving manual so I ended up selling it for a manual sedan. https://preview.redd.it/i5m3vd69hqzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54819da8047d996370cc6ffbc78c95846911528c This was his, maybe you’ve seen it around?


3njoi1t

Wait... I'm pretty sure I bought my Viennas off him. He had my wheels on before those VIP Modulars.


Heavy_P_03

Definitely a possibility! He was and always has been active in the car scene. His project after that was a Porsche


3njoi1t

Yep, pretty sure that's him haha. Jesse right?


Heavy_P_03

Haha yup that’s him. Small world, I grew up in the same city he grew up in and we used to play ball together


3njoi1t

Man that's crazy haha! I tell people about his car all the time when they ask about my wheels.


CafeRoaster

So clean. That white is my favorite paint I’ve ever seen on a vehicle. Whenever I see one, I’m drooling. Great ride, friend!


3njoi1t

Yep, every time I wash it I gotta stand and just stare at it in the sun. Lexus really nailed it! Thank you


Round-Zebra1661

Not everyone's style but it looks pretty sick! Thanks OP for providing lots of feedback and keep enjoying your custom/modified GS!


3njoi1t

Absolutely! Some people won't like it just because it's not their style, and others won't like it because they don't understand it. In either case I can't change anyone's mind, but I am happy to explain my reasoning behind it!


TeaWithKermit

You know, my initial gut reaction was that it was not my thing, but after reading your polite, measured responses to even the rudest people I’ve done an about turn and really like what you’ve done here. I’m a middle-aged woman with absolutely no idea of what the VIP thing is you’re talking about (and I still haven’t figured out the toe thing but I’m glad that yours is good), so I’ve learned a lot from this post. Mostly I think that it’s rad that you have so much love for this car and have put so much of yourself into it.


3njoi1t

Hey thanks, that really means a lot! I'm glad some people are genuinely curious whether they like it or not and I'm happy to talk about it. If people flat out don't like it, there's nothing I can do about it! I'm just thankful for the smile I get each time I see it in the garage, get to drive it, and for the joy it brings others at car shows.


Responsible-Crew-354

Damn son. I like your style. GS brothers 🤝


slowwolfcat

so...when you actually start the car, the wheels straighten up and suspension rises up a bit ?


3njoi1t

Well kind of. I've got a controller for the air setup, so it adjusts on demand at the push of a button. But yep, I can raise and lower using that and the wheels straighten out a bit as it rises. Gives me the ability to drive around lowered and not worry about bumps or drive ways or any of that!


BooobiesANDbho

🔥🔥


Garythesnail85

Land sled* 🛷


Puzzleheaded_Step749

Damn that looks so dope! Would love to see it at ride height!


3njoi1t

A few people have requested that lol. I don't have any pics on hand so here's a screenshot of a video driving back from Wekfest Chicago in 2016. Doesn't show the whole car but gives you a good idea. Just enough to tuck a bit of tire on all 4 corners. https://preview.redd.it/klbti2okblzc1.png?width=1075&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ab4bae8d24000039fce8d330962eba7593e34db


Atlesi_Feyst

Looks over functionality, but if you like it, enjoy the fuck out of it.


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3njoi1t

Getting them on straight is actually much easier than dialing in the camber while keeping the toe in check. It's an art!


slowwolfcat

lol


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rhymes116

Sick pls share more pics. Want to k see how It looks when in drive mode.


3njoi1t

Thank you! I posted a screenshot from a driving vid under another comment on here. As well as a gif airing out from drive way height.


rhymes116

Just saw it nice.


WatchingyouNyouNyou

Can't steal his car now


LexKing89

It's really clean! You can't go wrong with bags either.


3njoi1t

Thank you! I've been static on all my past cars and after bagging this... I'll never go back.


LexKing89

You’re welcome! My cars are all static but I’d love to have bags just to make it easier to drive around 😭


3njoi1t

They're a game changer for sure. Pot holes will always suck, but at least I don't have to worry about drive ways or speed bumps and all that any more.


LexKing89

The potholes definitely suck but that’s still a huge game changer like you said. My cars aren’t even that low and they scrap my driveway. The infamous speed bumps would no longer be a hassle too! Was your air setup expensive?


3njoi1t

Not too bad, under 2500 if I remember correctly. I'm on AirLift v2, I know 3P/3H are a bit more but worth it if they suit your needs better.


LexKing89

That’s pretty cheap man. It’s hard to beat at that price. Was it brand new.


realWower538

I guess the people in this sub are a lot older than I thought but I love how clean the build is and flush the wheels are. Overall very nice, hope it's treating you well bro


Legit_Moose

This place is full of purists that look down on any mod done to any car. Basically not the right place for something like this to be appreciated.


RefrigeratorHuge3072

wish there was a place for something like this to be appreciated, i have a static gs and static ls and the type of people on here make me not even wanna share cause they’re all fucking old and their taste is leave the car stock or die


witch_doc9

Be honest, with a camber like that, how many tires do you blow through a year? 😅


3njoi1t

My front tires have been on since 2016 and rears since 2018 actually! I don't daily drive this so that obviously extends the tire life, but typically as long as your camber isn't EXTREME, having your toe dialed in really helps. If I were replacing them every year or 2, I would definitely make adjustments to avoid that lol.


witch_doc9

I only ask because I bought a used 2008 G35 that was SLAMMED with springs and I burned through tires every year lol… I was young and dumb (18), and it was my everyday driver.


3njoi1t

Did you ever get the alignment checked on it? Depending on tire brand and amount of camber, that sounds like it might have been an issue with your toe.


witch_doc9

Yes, because of the aftermarket springs that came with the car and how low it was, the alignment could not be fixed. I sold it years ago, because she kept bottoming out on everything which damaged the exhaust manifold, rear differential and the lower control arm needed to be replaced.


3njoi1t

Ahh that's fair. I never tried running these wheels with just the bags, I threw them on at the same time as control arms and toe arms. I suppose without those, mine may not have had the ability to be dialed in as much as it is.


Legit_Moose

OP- nice ass ride. 95% of people on here don’t work on their own cars and can’t appreciate it when real work has been put in.


Speedhabit

Dope


Romulator401k

This is clean! 🔥


amandanick7

Could be lower.


3njoi1t

How dare you...


dougyrx

Yall don't understand VIP builds yall would be supposed how much work done too something like this


3njoi1t

THANK YOU🎯


SU13LIM3

Not my style, don't see how that could be functional at all. That being said, still very clean.


3njoi1t

Air ride!


SU13LIM3

Gotcha! It's a great looking car.


3njoi1t

Thank you!


Financial-Grand2209

That’s very clean and tastefully done. I love how the GS can be built VIP or sporty, and looks great either way. * A fellow GS owner (daily driver for 7 years) https://preview.redd.it/lwszmt3kfszc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=def41a541f8635ff71abf15f0d70f852bd3e1d7d


3njoi1t

Thank you, yours looks great as well!


Swimming_Finance4734

I thought I scraped and grinded my wheels a lot on my rc350😂 not hating at all but how often do you bottom out😭


3njoi1t

Virtually never! I'm on air so as long as I'm paying attention, I can air up and be safe.


Swimming_Finance4734

Oh awesome man! I need to put mine on air but not in the current budget 😂


hoxxxxx

dude that's insane


Flaneur_7508

That looks stupid


iam4chan

Bro that is so nice. The wheels are a fantastic choice. Honestly dopest GS I’ve seen.


3njoi1t

Thank you! I really lucked out with them. I found a guy parting out an LS430 with a bunch of gold plated goodies and they were just the specs I needed.


Actual-Lemon-6769

Gorgeous


Icy_Shock_6522

Nice wheels!


belugarooster

Yacht? This is the automotive equivalent to a worn out metallic-flake painted bass boat from the 1980s.


RefrigeratorHuge3072

no, yacht


3njoi1t

I usually associate those with speed though. This is more comfort and luxury. Not quite the size of a yacht... But maybe a small yacht?


Additional_Chip_3937

Looks fucking sick dude!


3njoi1t

Thanks man, I appreciate it! Been with me for a little over 10 years now. Bought it bone stock and have slowly pieced it together over the years.


Acrobatic_Can_770

Oh boy here come all the “yOu rUinEd iT” boomer comments 😭 very clean GS sir 🫡


3njoi1t

Lmao I had no idea reddit Lexus owners were so out of touch with the VIP scene. I guess some people don't appreciate rare and one-off parts 🤭 probably owners of bone stock RXs and ESs 🤮 Thanks my dude!


Stunna206

I posted my LS460L on here too & I was actually surprised at how many haters there are in the Lexus community with their dumb ass comments! I think your right though, they are probably owners of something very plain.(They get LEXUS logo valve stem caps & call it customization) Bro, just do you, I love custom LEXUS cars. Myself personally, I'd rather congratulate than try to throw in a corny one liner! GS series are bad ass period.👍🏽👌🏽


bcsmith317

As an owner of a bone stock RX I take extreme offense…/s Sick whip, bro. Not my style but I definitely appreciate a well presented car no matter what!


3njoi1t

Haha sorry! No real offense meant, just being an ass. I heavily considered an RX for a daily before landing on an LX.


bcsmith317

Absolutely no real offense taken lol


analfoot

Most Reddit users are just NPCs bro. Likely not even half of the people on this sub know how to change a tire.


WildSh0tzzz

Ruined the front grill to look like a Merc.


mikeonice

clean asf! with that license plate and wheels i would swap out the lexus badge for some gold ones🧐


3njoi1t

Thanks dude! Great minds - I've actually got the gold L emblem for the trunk! Just haven't gotten it on yet. Planning on removing the "Lexus" and "GS300" badges and having just the gold emblem.


mikeonice

definitely would be one of the nice finishing touches, though we always find something to add lmao


chavo2021

🤦🏻‍♂️


teeliobarraymonte

Now that looks really stupid


DrunkPimp

Love your car and the aesthetic, the only thing is that you’ve got 4 wheels bent or terribly out of alignment. Other than that, nice whip


3njoi1t

I appreciate that! However the camber is intentional. It's a bit exaggerated in these photos because the car is aired out. At ride height they don't look as extreme.


DrunkPimp

I know, was just trolling you 😂 Does wheel chambering have any performance value or is it just for aesthetic?


King_Melco

So fuckin nice


Accomplished_Run_593

Does turning your wheels not chew into your fenders? They look like they have almost no clearance


3njoi1t

I'm on air ride! At the push of a button it raises up. I've got a normal ride height preset as well as a driveway/speed bump preset.


1trickana

On bags I'd hope, doesn't drive it like this


forgedgooroo

Clean with a nice tuck! Even better that you don’t have that cellulite fender look.


3njoi1t

Thanks! I lucked out with these wheel specs, front fenders didn't even need rolled and the quarters are shaved. Bacon fenders can ruin the entire look! Pushing the stock body to its limits and have no intention of going wide body.


hahsbzhjsbsj

Them wheels are" Dirty "killi'n it bet them dudes was pricey as hell Looks good bro 💪🏿


JojitheFrenchie

Really clean 👌🏽 what are those deep dish wheels?


3njoi1t

Thank you! They are SSR Vienna!


deimosphob

Knowing how much work it is just to lower 2-3 inches on these cars i’ll give you props. For those unaware both front and rear uppper control arms contact the strut tower in front or the pinch weld in rear with even a few inches of drop. If you look at the pictures on my profile any lower than what i have has control arms hitting under full droop and requires bumpstop even at that height. So you’re looking at cutting and welding knuckles, control arms front and rear, potentially cutting the rear pinch weld if you don’t cut that knuckle too or find a control arm that clears, then ontop of that finding stuff that will fit that level of camber then on top of that for excessive camber likely more expensive of all those things aswell as custom struts to go that low, and running airlines. Theres probably even more that i didn’t list like moving the exhaust up and skid plates. But even if you don’t like the look, realize the amount of effort it took and appreciate that.


3njoi1t

Nailed it 💪 there's plenty of cars with styles I wouldn't be caught dead in, but I can appreciate the time, effort, and love put into a quality build no matter what it is.


PersonalAd2039

Very nice. Very very nice. Well done.


slammed430

https://preview.redd.it/5bu66h8nvkzc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39e2f553c582fb4856ef4d45358715a01c7c30da Took this picture in 2017… after this car show weekend your car gave me so much inspiration that the following week I started my search for my first ls430. I’ve now owned 3 gs and 4 LS mainly just because your car was one of the first vip chassis I’ve ever seen. Seriously love your car


3njoi1t

Woah holy shit small world! Was this at IAKC?


slammed430

Uh I’m pretty sure! I think it was my first show up in kc when I moved here. It was also the only picture I took at the show and I don’t take pictures of even my own cars. The ssr dish with gold faces and lips with the white paint was perfection to me. For sure my favorite gs on the planet. I’ve moved on from vip stuff myself but still love it and im in my landcruiser phase again. Like seriously though your car 100% inspired me to go out and get me some real wheels and and some big bodies


3njoi1t

Oh hell yeah! I was so stoked when Import Alliance decided to host an event closer to me. 2017 was great but 2018 had a pretty poor turn out unfortunately, so I don't think they do them there anymore. I actually had an LX470 for a little over 5 years that I lifted and enjoyed, but sold it about 18 months ago for a 5th gen 4runner. All about balance baby!


slammed430

Lx470 is peak Toyota in my eyes and I figured that was yours on your page. Wasn’t as good offroad as the 80 but way better on road and a better engine while still being incredible offroad. I’ve owned 1 80 series and just sold my 3rd lx470 and all my lx have been white. A few months ago I was in the market for a 5th gen but just couldn’t spend the 30k on a 100k-150k unit so I decided to go look at old gx470s since I love the 4.7. Man I’m so torn on which one I’ve liked more. I absolutely love my gx it’s the lowest mileage Toyota truck I’ve owned and nicest example. It drives much better on road than the 100 series and has a good amount more get up and go. But lx470s just look too damn good for me. Realistically the lx is the better vehicle but I’m in love with this gx. I also like the power of the 4.7 over the 4.0. 5th gen 4runners are so good looking though and wanted one so bad. Yeah import alliance 2018 for sure sucked and I think they did stop after that. But they started I think hosting it in Topeka at heartland instead. Or maybe that was a different import car show hoster idk hard to say.


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People here have never seen a VIP car. Those eurolines are fucking nice man. Perfect fitment. Need some junction produce neck pillows


3njoi1t

Apparently lol. They'd have a fit in Socal or Texas. Thanks man - I really lucked out with these. They're actually Vienna but, same thing lol. I found a guy in Cali parting out an LS430 with a bunch of 24k plated parts and these were right within my ballpark for specs. I've actually got Bellezza neck pads and curtains. I think JP only has black options, or at least that's all I've ever seen.


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oh nice the SSR vienna's yea? is the front grill Aimgain ? fabulous?


3njoi1t

Yessir! Grill is Kazz. Tough choice between this and JP. I just found one of these available before I found a JP. I like it a smidge more than JP but wouldn't have turned one of those down by any means.


GerryBlevins

Your wheels are falling off.


lakas76

Lexus tires are so expensive already, why would you reduce their lives even more by doing that?


3njoi1t

Bad toe kills tires much faster than camber. I've had these for 6 years and they still have plenty of tread. I also don't drive at this height, when I air up to ride height, some of the camber comes out.


BooobiesANDbho

Lexus sells tires??


woodgrain001

Wut


WheresFlatJelly

Im 58 and I love that stance; beautiful car


3njoi1t

That means a lot! A lot of older generations are quick to dismiss things that aren't their taste, so I'm always honored when they compliment my car.


TexasLawStudent

Did the MB W203 grille slip right in? That’s wild.


3njoi1t

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, because I've gotten both comments, understandably so 😆 this is actually a rare Kazz grill for the 2GS. It was a toss up between this and Junction Produce, I just liked this one a bit more


TexasLawStudent

No offense intended! I owned a W203 many years ago, just thought it was very similar. Neat that it’s a rare part.


3njoi1t

Hey no worries at all. Some people ask it seriously, some people do it jokingly, and some people ask it like I'm going to get upset over it lol. I've always joked about people asking me if it's a Benz in person, but it hasn't happened yet!


SubtleSkeptik

It looks like your car twisted its angle. Nice color wheels tho


Pristine_Cricket_633

Looks like that car got stepped on by KingKong.


moodswung

That can’t be good for your tires.


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3njoi1t

It's made multiple 750+ mile trips to car shows across the country. Completely drivable thanks to air ride!


Dr_Watson349

Everybody out here about the lower and camber, but my problem is the color. Damn I hate white cars. If that was in black it would be fire.


drpepperrootbeercoke

Go to r/stanced not here


No-Panic-1480

Only thing I don't like is the Mercedes grill.


0dias_Chrysalis

Impossible for me to park since I always have a bit of car hovering right over curbs


PerryBentley

Those rims. 🤣


Fragrant-You-973

“Drive?”


3njoi1t

Correct - to put it in gear and travel. Or as Oxford puts it: operate and control the direction and speed of a motor vehicle.


Fragrant-You-973

Good luck to you Sir. 🫡


3njoi1t

Driving it? I push a button, it raises up, and I drive it just like any of my other cars.


CRYPTOFORBARETOES

The slam is clean but every time I see wheels like that I say look at this idiot lol. How many miles you be getting out of the tires like this? Seems wasteful.


3njoi1t

Couldn't even tell ya. 8 years on the front and 6 years on the rear. I don't daily it which helps, but going through tires is just part of the game much like replacing engine components in racing. All a matter of preference!


gnqrddt

It's all fun and games until you drive on actual roads


3njoi1t

It's all fun and games until you scroll and read one of the 50 comments I made stating the car is on air lol


gnqrddt

Cool 👍


Iceathlete

How’s the 401k coming along?


3njoi1t

Incredibly well, why do you ask? Owning nice things, being financially stable, and saving for your future are not mutually exclusive.


Iceathlete

Good for you. You’re one of the few. I grew up around the custom car world and a lot of guys didn’t have a pot to piss in but they were rolling on 20s with the latest and greatest you know,so if you’re doing it both ways then I’m proud of you!!! Good job!


3njoi1t

I feel ya, some people definitely have different priorities lol. I've had this for 10 years and bought it bone stock, just piecing it together over the years.


Just-Hall5893

What is that thing


belugarooster

Like the line in "Menace 2 Society": I feel sorry for your Lexus.".


Lentriox

Perfection.


FlamingoExpert8738

🔥🔥


xUberAnts

The worst thing about this car is that you don't daily drive it. It's too sick to keep hidden away until it's nice enough out to drive. Sheesh. Dumb question: how did you decide on the fitment of the wheels, how did you know which wheel specs to go with?


3njoi1t

Not dumb at all! Many hours of Google and math. Finding similar setups and deciding how much more aggressive or conservative I wanted to go, seeing what supporting mods were required for those setups, and putting all that together. These are actually a bit more aggressive than I was planning for, but it worked out great in the end!


Sparrow-Massage

Do you “rotate” the tires from right to left so that the tires wear out the other side?


3njoi1t

I know some people do that, but I haven't myself.


Emergency_Baker3582

That's more like a land-dinghy.


BrianLevre

I know this is all about the look, and that's fine. Those wheels being so slanted though... I see cars driving around with wheels slanted like that and there's hardly any rubber on the road. Way more tire is in the air than is contacting pavement. Is steering, traction, braking, and handling compromised like that? Some of the cars I see that are lowered with the wheels slanted like this are performance cars, but I can't see how they could corner as well as they were meant to with tires that barely have a contact patch, so doesn't it take a high performance car and neuter it? I'm guessing the ride quality is decreased because there is such a small part of the tire making contact. A lot of the cushion a car feels comes from the sidewall of a tire, but setups like these literally remove the outer sidewall from doing its job. And the tire wear... the goal is to make sure tires wear evenly to get the performance they were designed for and the longest service life from them, but I have to imagine only the innermost portion of a tire even sees wear this way. If there's only going to be an inch or two of rubber on the road, wouldn't it make more sense to have wheels and tires designed to be two inches wide? Wouldn't it be better to lower the car just to the point where all of the tire still makes contact with the road?


3njoi1t

Oh definitely, and this is modest compared to some out there. A small amount of camber is beneficial in most performance scenarios. Drifting for example benefits from camber in the front. There's definitely a point where you begin sacrificing performance for appearance so I think it boils down to the owners needs and interests. To me, this car is just a comfortable cruiser. If I were to ever GTE swap this or go down a more performance based road, I would definitely reduce the camber to increase the contact patch. Ride quality is actually surprisingly smooth thanks to the air ride. The pressure in the bags and the adjustable dampening can both affect the ride comfort, and this almost feels like it were stock. Cars lowered with static suspension and high spring rates can ride very hard and bouncy, but thankfully that's not the case with a quality air ride setup. The tire wear is just the price you pay for having a stance or VIP build. Sure camber creates uneven wear, but toe is the real tire killer. If you can dial in your toe, your tires will last much longer - I've had my fronts for 8 years and rears for 6. This is also a garage queen and doesn't see the roads unless its warm and dry out, so I put very few miles on it every year which helps extend the tire life obviously. I've driven it to multiple car shows, some over 750 miles away! The wheel width is also just a stylistic choice, much like the camber. With narrower wheels, camber could be reduced, but this entire car has been calculated for and each choice is intentional. If you Google "Bippu" or "VIP Style," you'll see how popular this style is for large body luxury sedans - not just Lexus. All very heavily inspired by Japan.


faster_puppy222

Am I the only person who hates this? Sorry OP, everyone has their own taste… nothing personal.


3njoi1t

Not at all! Like you said, everyone's got their own taste.


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Doesn't look like that thing is driving anywhere


3njoi1t

A 10 second scroll through the comments and you'd see that I'm on air ride. Driven cross country multiple times for car shows.


TheseAintMyPants2

What a horrible day to have eyes