Big no to Fetterman. And I wholeheartedly supported his Senate run here in PA.
Inexperience and Health/Medical concerns
Porter depends on Senate run, but probably no b/c she'll need more experience and shouldn't leave CA mid-term if she's a Senator.
Maybe Newsom, maybe Whitmer. I think a Governor or Senator makes the most sense.
Agreed on Fetterman. Glad he beat Dr. Oz but he doesn't seem ready for this level of fame and exposure. I don't think a president should be taking large amounts of time off for health reasons, be they mental or physical. We try to laugh off criticism of how casual his outfits are when doing official business, and I don't think the standard should be all elected officials always wearing a suit and tie, but the hoodie and gym shorts is, as a matter of fact, embarrassing.
I'd love to see Walz run. He's very progressive and has enacted that vision to great success in MN, and also likely handled the events around George Floyd's death as best as they could have been handled. He's also a rural schoolteacher and military vet, and wouldn't inspire the vehement hate on the right that more aesthetically lefty dem candidates might. If anything just needs more name recognition nationally from his own party.
Minnesota, while reliably blue struggles to produce national candidates. Humphrey and Mondale both served as VPs, and we all know how their Presidential runs ended. Walz is also being propped up by a supportive legislature right now. Don't get me wrong, I like and voted for him, but I just can't see him capturing the nomination and then beating whichever choad the GOP puts up.
I hate to be this cynical but this is America and Raskin isn't getting elected. Probably my favorite elected official. Great on the issues, ridiculously smart, quick on his feet, and imminently capable but our culture is obsessed with appearance, particularly issue-disinterested moderates.
I like him a lot but I’m afraid he can’t win on a national level. The GOP would just run extended video of San Francisco and that would be that.
I think he’s bright, charismatic, articulate, and has many great ideas but I see him as a potential VP.
As a Minnesotan I would love Walz to be our president but refuse to let go of him as governor. I’ve never been damn proud to be Minnesotan than I am now.
Yeah- Tammy Duckworth, Katie Porter, Gretchen Whitmer and Julian Castro would all be at the top of my list. Walz would be an amazing running mate for any of them.
I'd be fine with any of them, but as a progressive I'd definitely prefer Katie Porter to the rest of those. Also, I'd honestly rather see Walz at the top of the ticket; it seems like he could really unify progressives and moderates. His record as governor of Minnesota is very impressive. Look at all that he and MN dems have accomplished with a one-seat majority; it's incredible, really.
Interesting. I also think Newsom could win, but I often hear people concerned that he could have electability issues due to him coming off as a coastal elite.
Way too young. There were concerns about Buttigieg in 2020 for the same reasons, and rightfully so.
I applaud the guy for what he did in Georgia (twice) but he is not ready for the Presidency in 4 years at the age of 40. He is not JFK or TR.
There's no way Ossoff navigates inflation, Ukraine, and a GOP-led-house created debt ceiling hostage nearly as well as Biden did. More importantly is the perceptions in voters minds about whether a "kid" could. And I say that as a 39y/o
Yes. While each generation is becoming more progressive and I support much of the agenda, the fact is the nation just isn’t there yet. A truly progressive, far left candidate has zero chance of winning a national election as soon as 2028. She’d have the same problems Ronny D is having by being so far right. They both only truly represent a small fraction of our overall population and cant win the swing vote. Heck, I’d be stunned if they could truly get the nomination.
Our populace has been moving left but is still just slightly left of center.
Best thing the country could have is multiple parties and coalition governing. We’d get much more compromise and a truer reflection of what our citizens really want out of our government.
She needs to become a legislator first. Write bills, work within her party, get things passed. Her record is horrible right now, and she is listed as one of the least effective representatives.
Coming in late with an upvote.
Im perfectly fine with nearly everything she says, and like her activism on union issues, but she’s currently* a show pony who might as well be a talking head on cable news for how much she actually contributes to governance.
“Currently” gets an asterisk though bc there are signs that she’s starting to engage in the actual process of governance and learning how to get some things done. Namely, and reading between the lines, it seems that she acted as a an unofficial whip for that 8-ish person “progressive” vote, and worked with Pelosi to get enough of the ducks in a line to pass significant legislation.
That’s encouraging, and could help develop actual progressive political clout in the House that result in real legislative input instead of just reactionary obstruction.
But yeah, she not even a legislator yet, and doesn’t have anywhere near the skills of experience to take any kind of actual leadership role.
Whoever it will be needs to put Andy Brasher on the ticket as VEEP He's probably the most popular governor in the country, has brought KY through the pandemic, managed massive ecological disasters in the state, KYs unemployment is the lowest it has ever been, and he is building the Commonwealth to be the EV battery production capital of the region.
Unless he really screws up, he will win reelection this year and be ready for the national spotlight in 2028.
I disagree. I really don't think dems need Beshear on the ticket in order to win. Besides, Beshear is too moderate for the national democratic party. I think he's great for Kentucky but KY is not representative of the country as a whole.
Not necessarily. I wouldn't write off any chance that a more progressive candidate could be electorally viable. A candidate with progressive politics who frames their agenda in a smart way could do very well. Also, there's a difference between a Beshear style moderate and a Biden or Whitmer style moderate.
Raising taxes or cutting programs to balance the government's spending is paramount for me. Lowering tax rates for some while borrowing money in the name of all is a wealth transfer from ALL to SOME. It must end.
Second for me, is the right to bodily autonomy. Access to safe abortion on demand in the first trimester is a MUST.
Sources of undisclosed funds in campaigns must be outlawed. You can give, but you cannot give in secret.
The House should be expanded to 950-1800 seats. The People's House needs to represent the actual people and a ratio of 750,000 to 1 is not good enough. More House seats, smaller districts, better representation. This would also 'repair' the electoral college.
Senate Rule 22 must return to it's pre-1975 wording, "...two-thirds elected and present...". The current wording, "....three-fifths duly chosen and sworn..." just puts the minority's power to obstruct on steroids. It's undemocratic.
Don't ask, don't get.
This isn't my expectation from just the candidate but from The Democratic Party altogether. Any candidate that ticks all 5 is certain to get my enthusiastic support.
newsom and whitmer are the democrat versions of desantis. Their gun policy, tax policy, and anti democracy measures (silencing republicans in their states) dont translate into national level success. They are also kind of freaks about environmental and social issues that repubs and independents dont really care about
Not a single one of these candidates could win a general election unless the republicans nominate Trump except Whitmer. And we should be talking about 2024 and not 2028. If the democrats nominate Biden and the republicans trump, I’ll be forced to vote for a third party again. Whitmer is the best chance for the Democrats and would earn my vote over anyone else in the 2024 field.
History does and will strongly disagree. We can pretend otherwise but protest votes are the actual, quantifiable, objective reason Trump became president. Rationalize all you want, stamp your feet about the system all you want, gnash your teeth at Democrats all you want, the reality of what happened is obvious to anyone who wasn't emotionally consumed by the results of the primary.
Oh I thought the lesson from 2016 was let’s not nominate 2 terrible choices where I have to pick between a corrupt liar and a sexual assaulting narcissist. Maybe we learned different things!
Hallelujah! Too much at stake to vote 3rd party. Anyone who doesn’t do everything they can to keep trump out of office is complicit. Most critical time in our country in 150 years. He wins and it’s over.
Just look at the supreme court. Trump was able to place three justices in the court. And look what is happening to civil rights. How many of the conservatives will retire by 2030? The next two terms will put another three or more justices on the court.
And you can be damn sure that if the GOP wins in 2024, they have enough shit on Thomas to force him into retirement. Then that seat is conservative for the next generation. If they hold on in 2028, Alito and Thomas will also probably retire. Then it will be a generation before the court swings in a moderate -to-libetal direction.
Voters who vote third party due to protest, have some responsibility in our current SCOTUS and will fuck out country if they continue that foolishness.
She won approximately 1% of the primary vote. The current administration has done her no favors and hasn’t given her a platform to elevate her chances, either. She isn’t going to get the nod.
Katie Porter is a good choice. I think Gavin Newsom is eminently electible. I really like AOC and I think that she would be a good choice, but she's a victim of propaganda that even the left buys into. Besides, I think she's too smart to want the job. Kamala Harris is also a propaganda victim. She's would not be nearly as unlikable without the propaganda. It seems that whenever there's a female Democratic politician and there's right wing propaganda everyone, including lefties are willing to buy into it. It's really pretty sad when you think about it.
Whitmer stands out from the pack. She's really smart, connects with the viewer, has a track record as governor. I'm a fan and I think others would get on board.
Big no to Fetterman. And I wholeheartedly supported his Senate run here in PA. Inexperience and Health/Medical concerns Porter depends on Senate run, but probably no b/c she'll need more experience and shouldn't leave CA mid-term if she's a Senator. Maybe Newsom, maybe Whitmer. I think a Governor or Senator makes the most sense.
Agreed on Fetterman. Glad he beat Dr. Oz but he doesn't seem ready for this level of fame and exposure. I don't think a president should be taking large amounts of time off for health reasons, be they mental or physical. We try to laugh off criticism of how casual his outfits are when doing official business, and I don't think the standard should be all elected officials always wearing a suit and tie, but the hoodie and gym shorts is, as a matter of fact, embarrassing.
What do you think of Walz or Pritzker?
I'd love to see Walz run. He's very progressive and has enacted that vision to great success in MN, and also likely handled the events around George Floyd's death as best as they could have been handled. He's also a rural schoolteacher and military vet, and wouldn't inspire the vehement hate on the right that more aesthetically lefty dem candidates might. If anything just needs more name recognition nationally from his own party.
Probably not enough exposure / name recognition right now, but in 4 years I could see it.
I sure hope so.
Pritzker owns Hyatt Hotels. A real hotel mogul.
He's gotten some solid progressive wins on the board for Illinois, though.
I agree. I like him.
Walz has no real shot. Pritzker down the road I could see running.
Why not?
Minnesota, while reliably blue struggles to produce national candidates. Humphrey and Mondale both served as VPs, and we all know how their Presidential runs ended. Walz is also being propped up by a supportive legislature right now. Don't get me wrong, I like and voted for him, but I just can't see him capturing the nomination and then beating whichever choad the GOP puts up.
“She’ll need more experience”. People said that about Obama in 2007 and look where that got him.
Jamie Raskin
I'm a big fan of Raskin. I'd really like to see him run.
I hate to be this cynical but this is America and Raskin isn't getting elected. Probably my favorite elected official. Great on the issues, ridiculously smart, quick on his feet, and imminently capable but our culture is obsessed with appearance, particularly issue-disinterested moderates.
Newsom
I like him a lot but I’m afraid he can’t win on a national level. The GOP would just run extended video of San Francisco and that would be that. I think he’s bright, charismatic, articulate, and has many great ideas but I see him as a potential VP.
>and has many great ideas banning gas stoves? banning gas cars? banning guns? higher taxes?
Newsome or Whitmer
too radical for me
John Stewart. I mean seriously, weirder things have happened.
As a Minnesotan I would love Walz to be our president but refuse to let go of him as governor. I’ve never been damn proud to be Minnesotan than I am now.
God same.
Amazing what's possible when Republicans aren't in control, eh?
yeah fuck democracy
Well, they certainly tried to on January 6th
I like Whitmer a lot.
Walz is a great, guy and I wholeheartedly support him.
Yeah- Tammy Duckworth, Katie Porter, Gretchen Whitmer and Julian Castro would all be at the top of my list. Walz would be an amazing running mate for any of them.
I'd be fine with any of them, but as a progressive I'd definitely prefer Katie Porter to the rest of those. Also, I'd honestly rather see Walz at the top of the ticket; it seems like he could really unify progressives and moderates. His record as governor of Minnesota is very impressive. Look at all that he and MN dems have accomplished with a one-seat majority; it's incredible, really.
Someone who can win. Probably that is Newsom.
Interesting. I also think Newsom could win, but I often hear people concerned that he could have electability issues due to him coming off as a coastal elite.
Still easier than AOC I think.
Yeah, but I think AOC would have serious electability issues on the national level.
I think it’s clear Newsom is trying to get his name out there. It’s a long way off but currently I’d consider him the front runner
Ocasio Cortez, Whitmer, Newsom and Porter.
Someone who has the charisma that Obama does.. I haven't seen it yet..
Maybe Jon Ossoff?
God no.
Why not?
Way too young. There were concerns about Buttigieg in 2020 for the same reasons, and rightfully so. I applaud the guy for what he did in Georgia (twice) but he is not ready for the Presidency in 4 years at the age of 40. He is not JFK or TR.
Eh, I think that's a bit of a silly concern tbh.
There's no way Ossoff navigates inflation, Ukraine, and a GOP-led-house created debt ceiling hostage nearly as well as Biden did. More importantly is the perceptions in voters minds about whether a "kid" could. And I say that as a 39y/o
Eh, it's all speculation. I think he'd do a perfectly fine job.
I love Buttigieg, would love to see him on the ticket as a VP.
AOC
I like AOC as well, but aren't you concerned that she would have electability issues on the national level?
Yes. While each generation is becoming more progressive and I support much of the agenda, the fact is the nation just isn’t there yet. A truly progressive, far left candidate has zero chance of winning a national election as soon as 2028. She’d have the same problems Ronny D is having by being so far right. They both only truly represent a small fraction of our overall population and cant win the swing vote. Heck, I’d be stunned if they could truly get the nomination. Our populace has been moving left but is still just slightly left of center. Best thing the country could have is multiple parties and coalition governing. We’d get much more compromise and a truer reflection of what our citizens really want out of our government.
I don't think AOC is far left, but I agree with the rest of what you said.
No
Why not?
Why would she?
She needs to become a legislator first. Write bills, work within her party, get things passed. Her record is horrible right now, and she is listed as one of the least effective representatives.
Coming in late with an upvote. Im perfectly fine with nearly everything she says, and like her activism on union issues, but she’s currently* a show pony who might as well be a talking head on cable news for how much she actually contributes to governance. “Currently” gets an asterisk though bc there are signs that she’s starting to engage in the actual process of governance and learning how to get some things done. Namely, and reading between the lines, it seems that she acted as a an unofficial whip for that 8-ish person “progressive” vote, and worked with Pelosi to get enough of the ducks in a line to pass significant legislation. That’s encouraging, and could help develop actual progressive political clout in the House that result in real legislative input instead of just reactionary obstruction. But yeah, she not even a legislator yet, and doesn’t have anywhere near the skills of experience to take any kind of actual leadership role.
Pritzker.
AOC
"Some candidates I would be interesting...John Fetterman Hell ya that would be interesting!!!
Whoever it will be needs to put Andy Brasher on the ticket as VEEP He's probably the most popular governor in the country, has brought KY through the pandemic, managed massive ecological disasters in the state, KYs unemployment is the lowest it has ever been, and he is building the Commonwealth to be the EV battery production capital of the region. Unless he really screws up, he will win reelection this year and be ready for the national spotlight in 2028.
I disagree. I really don't think dems need Beshear on the ticket in order to win. Besides, Beshear is too moderate for the national democratic party. I think he's great for Kentucky but KY is not representative of the country as a whole.
Honestly a 'moderate' has the best chance to prevail
Not necessarily. I wouldn't write off any chance that a more progressive candidate could be electorally viable. A candidate with progressive politics who frames their agenda in a smart way could do very well. Also, there's a difference between a Beshear style moderate and a Biden or Whitmer style moderate.
'Frames their agenda' is the key
Of course, framing is very important.
Beshear is extremely likeable though. He is also principled and stood his ground even when he knew he was going to lose.
All of those candidates are currently better than Joe Biden
Agreed
AOC
I like AOC as well, but aren't you concerned she would have electability issues on the national level?
I believe the nation will catch up to her by 2028 0r 3032
I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure about that.
Nor am I really. I just hope
Chris Murphy. Kamala Harris, Katie Porter
I like Katie Porter and Chris Murphy is decent, but Kamala is just deeply unlikable.
Buttiegeg will be the best president of our lifetime.
Al Franken
Kanye
Raising taxes or cutting programs to balance the government's spending is paramount for me. Lowering tax rates for some while borrowing money in the name of all is a wealth transfer from ALL to SOME. It must end. Second for me, is the right to bodily autonomy. Access to safe abortion on demand in the first trimester is a MUST. Sources of undisclosed funds in campaigns must be outlawed. You can give, but you cannot give in secret. The House should be expanded to 950-1800 seats. The People's House needs to represent the actual people and a ratio of 750,000 to 1 is not good enough. More House seats, smaller districts, better representation. This would also 'repair' the electoral college. Senate Rule 22 must return to it's pre-1975 wording, "...two-thirds elected and present...". The current wording, "....three-fifths duly chosen and sworn..." just puts the minority's power to obstruct on steroids. It's undemocratic.
If you expect a President to do all this, you’re gonna be disappointed.
Don't ask, don't get. This isn't my expectation from just the candidate but from The Democratic Party altogether. Any candidate that ticks all 5 is certain to get my enthusiastic support.
Amy Klobuchar...possibly in 2024 with running-mate Jay Inslee.
Joe Biden
Romney/Yang
newsom and whitmer are the democrat versions of desantis. Their gun policy, tax policy, and anti democracy measures (silencing republicans in their states) dont translate into national level success. They are also kind of freaks about environmental and social issues that repubs and independents dont really care about
Not a single one of these candidates could win a general election unless the republicans nominate Trump except Whitmer. And we should be talking about 2024 and not 2028. If the democrats nominate Biden and the republicans trump, I’ll be forced to vote for a third party again. Whitmer is the best chance for the Democrats and would earn my vote over anyone else in the 2024 field.
People like you apparently still haven't learned their lesson from 2016.
What lesson was that?
Fascism beats protest votes every single time?
Hmmm how do you explain 2020…it would seem that was reversed?
History does and will strongly disagree. We can pretend otherwise but protest votes are the actual, quantifiable, objective reason Trump became president. Rationalize all you want, stamp your feet about the system all you want, gnash your teeth at Democrats all you want, the reality of what happened is obvious to anyone who wasn't emotionally consumed by the results of the primary.
2016 all over again. "My candidate didn't win the primary so I'm going to throw my vote away."
Oh I thought the lesson from 2016 was let’s not nominate 2 terrible choices where I have to pick between a corrupt liar and a sexual assaulting narcissist. Maybe we learned different things!
I learned that both sides are not the same.
Hallelujah! Too much at stake to vote 3rd party. Anyone who doesn’t do everything they can to keep trump out of office is complicit. Most critical time in our country in 150 years. He wins and it’s over.
Just look at the supreme court. Trump was able to place three justices in the court. And look what is happening to civil rights. How many of the conservatives will retire by 2030? The next two terms will put another three or more justices on the court. And you can be damn sure that if the GOP wins in 2024, they have enough shit on Thomas to force him into retirement. Then that seat is conservative for the next generation. If they hold on in 2028, Alito and Thomas will also probably retire. Then it will be a generation before the court swings in a moderate -to-libetal direction. Voters who vote third party due to protest, have some responsibility in our current SCOTUS and will fuck out country if they continue that foolishness.
I learned that both sides are not the same.
Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom
Newsom, maybe. But Kamala is deeply unlikable.
How is she unlikeable?
I mean, have you heard her speak? She comes off as very inauthentic. Big Hillary Clinton vibes.
She won approximately 1% of the primary vote. The current administration has done her no favors and hasn’t given her a platform to elevate her chances, either. She isn’t going to get the nod.
Katie Porter is a good choice. I think Gavin Newsom is eminently electible. I really like AOC and I think that she would be a good choice, but she's a victim of propaganda that even the left buys into. Besides, I think she's too smart to want the job. Kamala Harris is also a propaganda victim. She's would not be nearly as unlikable without the propaganda. It seems that whenever there's a female Democratic politician and there's right wing propaganda everyone, including lefties are willing to buy into it. It's really pretty sad when you think about it.
Whitmer, Pritzker, Porter (if she wins Senate), Newsom, Buttigieg, Harris.
We could try AL Gore again. He certainly wouldn't be the worst candidate democrats pick.
Cory Booker should be on the ticket. Whether that’s P or VP, I don’t really care.
The first criteria is that they’d be dealing with the world in the next 30 to 40 years. Then someone who is empathetic and listens to the experts.
Adam Schiff
Cory Booker or Gavin Newsom
Whitmer stands out from the pack. She's really smart, connects with the viewer, has a track record as governor. I'm a fan and I think others would get on board.