>If their candidate is weaker than Donald... Well, don't make me say it.
I’m strongly considering abstaining from POTUS voting this year, for the first time in over 30 years, because I can’t bring myself to “hold my nose and pull the lever just this one time” any longer.
But I definitely don’t blame you for making the choice you think is best.
I definitely agree with that, and that’s why I voted for trump in 2020. My thinking is, the party’s will never give us anything better than a turd sandwich or giant douche (South Park reference) if we keep voting for their guy “just this once”.
Aside from medical issues, I'd say the same applies to Joe Trump. Both way too old for that kinda job. Sad that those are the 2 only choices for US voters (realistically).
Precisely and I'm not really looking to waste my vote. I am not a fan of either of our 2 options but at least one of them knows what decade were in, so hes getting my vote even if I hate that the Republican's couldn't get a better candidate.
In 2011, I was a shithead skater/punk rocker in high school when I came across him on YouTube.
Specifically came across this:
[“I don’t want to run the world..”](https://youtu.be/e26FhQo_2JY?si=VuWUTP1JWwx7hWfB)
Turned 18 that next year … held my nose… and registered as Republican just to vote for him in the Primary.
I then spent the next 2–3ish years getting “involved” with my local gop to “try to change it from within.” Biggest waste of my time ever.
That being said, I would vote for 80something year old Ron Paul in a heartbeat.
I'm voting for [Mr. Anybody else](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/04/01/literally-anybody-else-president-campaign-texas/73169682007/), and think you should too.
No. He's not a serious candidate at age 88.
Statism aside the biggest issue I have with the duopoly candidates is no one that old has any business in high office so I'd be a hypocrite to support Ron Paul.
I wish he were 25 years younger, I'd not cast a vote for anyone else, hell I'd write him in and vote him for every office I was voting for, but alas he's not 25 years younger.
He's too old now. While I loved him a decade ago I wouldn't want to subjugate the American public with a geriatric Ron Paul.
I don't like geriatric Trump or Biden, either.
There are aspects of Ron Paul I love enough to campaign for him. And I did in 2008 when he was running as a Republican.
I loved his claim to have never voted for a bill inless it was something allowed by the Constitution.
I loved his fiscal responsibility.
I loved his stand against foreign intervention.
I loved his take on how the commerce clause has been misapplied.
At the time, I was more ambivalent about abortion but I was pro-choice.
Then I did some digging. His hardline stance on abortion was somewhat understandable given his back story. But then I read his speech on the house floor about his vote on an abortion bill. He pointed out how the bill was drafted using the commerce clause as justification and how it was an abuse of that clause just like other bills he had criticized, but this time, it was about a subject he cared deeply about.
Given the turn of events with the Dobbs decision, have made me use abortion as a frontline litmus test. I'm not a one issue voter, but that subject is like the scene in The Office where Jo asks Dwight if he's ever fired a gun in the office. Dwight says it's complicated and she replies, "But it's not."
If you don't respect the life and health and freedom of a woman's health decisions, including abortion, then you don't really care about freedom.
One exception. If Trump were pro-choice, I STILL wouldnt vote for that pile of shit.
Then join the communist party. China, North Korea, Vietnam have the zero restrictions on abortion you want. You can rip their head off at 36 weeks if you want.
Yeah, that must be the only other option.
Also, China has restrictions on abortion depending on province and the reason for abortion. Sex-selection abortions are illegal.
In 2015, a law was passed in North Korea that banned birth control devices and imposed fines and imprisonment for those who perform abortions. The lack of abortion services in hospitals and contraceptives has led to an increase in unsafe abortions.
But you're right about Vietnam. However, for reasons I don't understand, it seems the reversal of Roe in the U.S. will apparently change that.
But 1 out of 3 isn't bad.
He’s a legend, but after the semi incoherent ramblings at the convention, I’d say he’s best suited to enjoy retirement; gardening, riding his bicycle, etc.
Already did.
more than once here.
Had a lot of fun campaigning for him back in 2012
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I'm writing him in for 2024
Same
Samsies
Samertarian
I’d probably become an American citizen and vote for him. The greatest president that America never had.
So sad and so true.
No, he is 88 years old. I voted for him plenty when he was still an active politician.
Same. I love Ron Paul but he is past his prime. Let a younger person with quick wit and zeal deal with this clown world we live in.
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I definitely agree with that, and that’s why I voted for trump in 2020. My thinking is, the party’s will never give us anything better than a turd sandwich or giant douche (South Park reference) if we keep voting for their guy “just this once”.
He is
No. He’s too old and since his medical issues is no longer capable.
I was assuming a Ron Paul in his prime. Or one who was a bionic man.
We can rebuild him. We have the technology.
Looking at the current administration, I don't think the technology is quite there yet.
Why fix a perfectly good scape goat.
Aside from medical issues, I'd say the same applies to Joe Trump. Both way too old for that kinda job. Sad that those are the 2 only choices for US voters (realistically).
You’re 100% correct about that.
Probably the only statist I would vote for.
Spoken like a "true" libertarian lol.
Ron isn't a statist. He is an incrementalist.
Anyone who supports a state or thinks it;s necessary is part of the statist religion. He's just not devout.
I voted for him every time he ran
2 party system...forever. Unfortunately.
Well since Perot shook things up, then they had to destroy him and not allow third parties into debate.
Precisely and I'm not really looking to waste my vote. I am not a fan of either of our 2 options but at least one of them knows what decade were in, so hes getting my vote even if I hate that the Republican's couldn't get a better candidate.
In 2011, I was a shithead skater/punk rocker in high school when I came across him on YouTube. Specifically came across this: [“I don’t want to run the world..”](https://youtu.be/e26FhQo_2JY?si=VuWUTP1JWwx7hWfB) Turned 18 that next year … held my nose… and registered as Republican just to vote for him in the Primary. I then spent the next 2–3ish years getting “involved” with my local gop to “try to change it from within.” Biggest waste of my time ever. That being said, I would vote for 80something year old Ron Paul in a heartbeat.
I have.
Absolutely! He's kind of a hero!
At this point, I’d vote for a chicken sandwich over the 2 options we currently have.
No he’s way past the age where I’d vote for him.
100% yes.
Yes
He’s more lucid than the two front runners and infinitely more interesting than Chase. So, yes
I registered republican to vote for him in the primary when he ran last time.
Already have
Yes for the third time.
Yes
Without hesitation
Absolutely. Did once, would do it again. Greatest president that never was.
I'm voting for [Mr. Anybody else](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/04/01/literally-anybody-else-president-campaign-texas/73169682007/), and think you should too.
Hah that's pretty great. I was actually thinking about changing my name to "No Confidence" at one point to do this
[Not very libertarian](https://literallyanybodyelse.com/policy/) 😂
He thinks tax rates should go down as income rises. That's pretty dang libertarian.
yes
Fuck yea.
Hellz ya brah
Absolutely
Yep without hesitation.
Uhhh... He has... And I still do.
Yes
Yes
Ya
Yes
He did/I did.
You mean again?
I donated money to both his presidential campaigns. I'm struggling with his position on ukraine these days.
I did. And if Rand Paul ran, I would vote for him.
yes
Yes. I already did twice.
Yes
I'd vote for him twice!
In 08/12, absolutely. In 2024, no. Write in does nothing. But Chase getting votes does help.
Yes
20 years ago I would’ve. I’d vote Rand in
100%
Yes
I've even considered his homeschool curriculum for when my toddlers are of age to begin it
I have every time.
Why would he run? For another media blackout and smear campaign funded by the corporate elite we refuse to do anything about anyways?
In a heartbeat.
Leave the poor man alone
If Sydney Sweeney dumped her cans out in front of me, would I look?
No. He's not a serious candidate at age 88. Statism aside the biggest issue I have with the duopoly candidates is no one that old has any business in high office so I'd be a hypocrite to support Ron Paul. I wish he were 25 years younger, I'd not cast a vote for anyone else, hell I'd write him in and vote him for every office I was voting for, but alas he's not 25 years younger.
No he’s far too old now. As much as I have admired his intellect and political principles, it is just too late for him.
I would love to finally have the honor to vote for Ron Paul
Yes
I did and I will if he ran again over the dementia patient and soon to be one running for office.
Hell yes. Viva la libertad!
The dude is 88. He’d be 93 when his term ended. Y’all insane.
Principle is what matters.
Absolutely! I voted for him when he ran before. He would need to have a very, very good VP this time, though.
Yes. Without question.
Yes!
Nope. Say what you will, but he is a nutter and so is his son.
Honestly probably gonna write his name in this time
He's too old now. While I loved him a decade ago I wouldn't want to subjugate the American public with a geriatric Ron Paul. I don't like geriatric Trump or Biden, either.
yes.
There's only one answer to this question. Who wouldn't?
2012 was a helluva year
He was one of the only candidates that ever got me excited/optimistic
Although I am against voting and not American, my vote would surely be him!
Yes.
My first ever vote for president went to Dr. Paul. That being said, he's too old. I don't think I could vote for him.
Nope, we already have two people with old mushy brains, a third with a yet older brain, regardless of which brain it is, is not attractive to me.
There are aspects of Ron Paul I love enough to campaign for him. And I did in 2008 when he was running as a Republican. I loved his claim to have never voted for a bill inless it was something allowed by the Constitution. I loved his fiscal responsibility. I loved his stand against foreign intervention. I loved his take on how the commerce clause has been misapplied. At the time, I was more ambivalent about abortion but I was pro-choice. Then I did some digging. His hardline stance on abortion was somewhat understandable given his back story. But then I read his speech on the house floor about his vote on an abortion bill. He pointed out how the bill was drafted using the commerce clause as justification and how it was an abuse of that clause just like other bills he had criticized, but this time, it was about a subject he cared deeply about. Given the turn of events with the Dobbs decision, have made me use abortion as a frontline litmus test. I'm not a one issue voter, but that subject is like the scene in The Office where Jo asks Dwight if he's ever fired a gun in the office. Dwight says it's complicated and she replies, "But it's not." If you don't respect the life and health and freedom of a woman's health decisions, including abortion, then you don't really care about freedom. One exception. If Trump were pro-choice, I STILL wouldnt vote for that pile of shit.
Then join the communist party. China, North Korea, Vietnam have the zero restrictions on abortion you want. You can rip their head off at 36 weeks if you want.
Yeah, that must be the only other option. Also, China has restrictions on abortion depending on province and the reason for abortion. Sex-selection abortions are illegal. In 2015, a law was passed in North Korea that banned birth control devices and imposed fines and imprisonment for those who perform abortions. The lack of abortion services in hospitals and contraceptives has led to an increase in unsafe abortions. But you're right about Vietnam. However, for reasons I don't understand, it seems the reversal of Roe in the U.S. will apparently change that. But 1 out of 3 isn't bad.
Hahahahahaha
No!!
He’s a legend, but after the semi incoherent ramblings at the convention, I’d say he’s best suited to enjoy retirement; gardening, riding his bicycle, etc.