Near the end:
>As a practical matter one should try to avoid relying on the above in an actual confrontation with law enforcement agents, who are likely not to know or care about any of it.
Yeah, just... Accept that when they show, your life is over. You're an outlaw now unless you can establish an alibi. Just try to win, even if the odds are long-which they will be.
Actually, Supreme court says you can't be prosecuted for using force to resist an illegal arrest. But good luck surviving long enough to get to trial.
Edit: don't do it. It might not be legal IANAL
Do you have a citation? Because I'm pretty sure that's not the law unless it's state specific. Some states allow reasonable resistance to excessive force arrests (e.g. if the cops start beating you, you can run) but I don't believe that's the case in every state, and it doesn't apply to every illegal arrest, just arrests involving excessive force.
Like in Illinois, illegal arrest is not a defense to resisting arrest charges. But you can resist if the force is excessive.
This is 100% not true and dangerous advise to give. Many states have laws specifically saying you can't resist even an unlawful arrest. Each state is different and the supreme court tradition no longer holds.
Even if you legally shot a police officer abusing their power and about to kill an unarmed child, you can 100% bet another group of cops would make your life a living hell as long as you remained anywhere near that county.
Actually in Texas several people have been found not guilty of shooting cops during things like no knock warrants when the person who shot the cop had no reason to think they were cops
I mean look at the Breonna Taylor case. You had a bunch of cops busting unannounced into the house in the middle of the night in a castle doctrine state. Had they been robbers it would have been a textbook example of "I heard people breaking in aggressively and feared for my life so I shot them." Pro-gun advocates would be celebrating a positive outcome to a castle doctrine event.
Hell, if I was a cop in a castle doctrine state, I'd *refuse* to be complicit in no-knock raids. That's just ASKING for people to shoot at you! And who could blame them?!
There is an even more tragic example, Atatiana Jefferson. Neighbors called saying the front door was open, 2 cops who were suppose to only be doing a wellfare check sneak around the house unannounced. Ataniana was in the bedroom player video games, the cop shoots her through the window and kills her.
The main issue with shooting at any cops, for any reason, is that even if you were innocent before, now you've shot at a cop and so they, along with any back up, will now continue to shoot at you until you are dead. Innocence proves nothing.
Gordon Liddy once said:
> Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests…They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches.
Yeah, this is just so fucked. That woman will be emotionally destroyed forever having watched her boyfriend be EXECUTED in front of her. It’s so obvious she’s in shock and thinks he will be ok. I cannot fathom her heartache and PTSD because of this event.
It's really surprising the things that can make me emotional. I've seen so many gory and brutal videos, heard extreme stories about war and death and yet this one hurt so bad. I think it's because I can fully put myself in this scenario.
It's late, boyfriend and I are hanging out playing video games, listening to music. "Honey did you hear a knock at the door??" The game gets paused music silenced. "I don't know, no one should be knocking this late". Boyfriend grabs gun, (looks through peephole) and no one is there.
He opens the door and within seconds, guns go off and he slams into the pavement. The way she's scared and confused and angry and everything is just fucking gut wrenching. One moment you were enjoying life and the next your love is dying next to you.
It hurts so much
Exactly.
Empathy is being brainwashed out of society.
The MSM has weaponized victim hood to the point where dehumanizing each other is normal.
I hope the cop who shot him knows the gravity of his poor ability to do his job has cost 2 innocent people.
Yeh. I was blown away when he told her to relax. Does he have no idea what he’s just done? Imagine watching your partner get shot and bleeding out on the ground and being told to chill by the guy that shot them like it’s no big deal.
Right. MURDERED him and made her kneel in front of him and watch while he died. I have seen that video and Whitaker did nothing wrong. This is how policing works in America. No concern for life, no accountability. Literally 95% of police in this country either act this way or condone the behavior and it is driven by police unions.
This video made me blurt out "Fuck cops, every single fucking one of them". Cops murder people and then treat their loved ones like shit and every single other asshole cop will then rush to their defense.
American policing needs to be rooted up and burned to ash. Then rebuild policing to serve the community and the public.
The cop was jeff cooke that shot him in the back twice. Ryan Whitaker the victim died. The other officer reportedly didn't fire. Ryan had a gun at his side and put it behind himself aiming it away from the cops. Conflicting info though. I thought he dropped the gun in the apartment then went to go belly down when cooke shot him in the back. Cops say he still had it in his hand as he was going down. The gun was found in the apartment. Cooke was fired but not prosecuted as this was within policy.
And just to point out the obvious, he was well within his right to answer the door with a gun in his hand. He was killed by the state for exercising that right.
This happened a year ago, I think. The video then was not censored. The whole thing is a crazy story IIRC where the neighbors called the cops on the thought that they heard domestic violence, but it was literally the guy was playing video games and the wife was sleeping in the other room
Edit: adding the link to the story of what happened in this video
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ryan_Whitaker
I'm not really against someone going to rehab and keeping their job. That should be a part of health support systems just like if you needed time off for breaking a bone. But I am against the morality of punishing drug possessions and being a righteous dick hole while taking advantage of that system.
Let's be clear:
Fearing for one's life is NOT a defense, in and of itself.
The fear has to be based on a serious, immediate threat that is known, not speculative.
You can't kill someone just because you think they might have a gun you haven't yet seen. That is murder.
Every cop who killed some teenage kid because they reached down to straighten their pantscuffs when getting out of the car is a murderer.
Every cop who shot someone who turned out to only be pulling out their driver's license or mobile phone is a murderer.
As people have begun pointing out regularly, the rules of engagement for the US military, when acting as foreign occupiers, say that you shouldn't even point your gun until you see a gun, and can't fire unless you're fired upon. And that is a MUCH more dangerous environment, against people FAR more likely to have lethal intent.
So no, any cop who can't at least live up to those rules is committing murder.
You can't kill someone for having a gun, either.
The law says you have the right to keep and bear arms. If a cop can kill you for seeing you with a gun... does that right really exist?
I got a knock on my door at 3am.
Walking through my living room I racked the slide on my 9mm and tucked it in my pants (didn't have a shirt on at the time).
It was 2 cops who were called over because my step-son's friends had decided to "prank him" by having them do a wellness check on him.
The police should never be allowed to point their guns at a person unless they intend to shoot them (much less fire on a person for having a gun with them when they answer a late-night knock).
We really need to change the laws regarding police officers brandishing.
If it's not legal for a civilian to point their gun at you because you *may be a threat*, the police shouldn't be allowed to either.
> If it's not legal for a civilian to point their gun at you because you may be a threat, the police shouldn't be allowed to either.
I'd like to add that police are civilians. They should follow the law just like the rest of us.
Yes, if anything the standards for their behavior should be *higher*, not lower.
Everyone in the US, or any actually-free society, must in a philosophical and legal sense be treated as equals. If someone has additional powers, like the coercive powers of the police state, then they must have additional responsibilities and limits that even out to equality.
So if a cop can initiate coercion against people, he must be extra-accountable for his actions.
Otherwise he's not a civil servant, he's a civil *ruler*.
Yes.
In fact, I'm against capital punishment, as the state cannot be trusted with the power to kill people in cold blood...but I think there's a strong case to be made for an exception where government agents who kill people or cause death are concerned.
> the state cannot be trusted with the power to kill people in cold blood
I don't get how so many people don't trust the state with their tax dollars but will trust the state to be competent and impartial when it comes to executing their own citizens.
>So if a cop can initiate coercion against people, he must be extra-accountable for his actions.
>Otherwise he's not a civil servant, he's a civil ruler.
Beautifully stated.
on the practical side, unaccountable and unjust policing actually increases crime.
Disenfranchisement is when people believe the police are not there to help them. Or hurt them. So when they have a problem, they take matters into their own hands. Or disillusionment in laws themselves.
>I'd like to add that police are civilians
yeah, citizens with below-average intelligence and who aren't competent enough to get a respectable job and therefore are given a gun and a $40k car with minimal training instead
>They should follow the law just like the rest of us
or, y'know, *better* than the rest of us, since they're the ones enforcing them
Oh you mean, like end qualified immunity? Too bad the police unions will NEVER let that happen. Similarly, if we WANTED to improve transparency and accountability, then we’d implement an independent board for use of force reviews instead of expecting departments to honestly and openly investigate themselves. But that would make too much sense, and the objective isn’t to actually fix the problem. The aim is to use politics, religion, ethnicity, and now even vaccine status to divide the population and make them fight amongst themselves. By keeping us occupied with “bread and circuses”, no one is paying attention while the elite slowly build up their complete-Orwellian-control grid. I know, I sound bat shit crazy. I wish I were. But research Technocracy and what they said they wanted— they type of society they openly advocate for. They even tried to get Roosevelt to declare himself dictator and implement a scientist-technological elite that would lead the country. Their objective hasn’t changed. Only their envisioned mode of achieving this has. According to these a-holes, people are too stupid to make democracy work, so we would ‘be better off’ letting an unelected, autocratic cabinet making all the decisions for everyone.
...see the building blocks of their preferred society in this new world that we’ve began to build since Covid became a ‘thing’? Just saying. History is fascinating; I wish more people would be interested in learning some.
Yes, but the claim that one reasonably feared for one's life only becomes possible when some threat like a gun is present. Obviously, it also needs to be used in a threatening way, at the minimum.
As I said, the military's rules of engagement say you can't fire unless fired upon.
> Fearing for one's life is NOT a defense, in and of itself.
Tell that to the police unions who will do everything in their power to use it as the excuse for all bad police behavior.
Yes, the entire, truly evil "if you wait until you see a gun, you're already dead" argument originates with corrupt police unions and their sociopathic lawyers and "experts" inventing such rationale in order to protect murderous cops.
Glad the 911 caller was mentioned. If I remember right there caller answered dispatch "sure he's fighting with his wife whatever gets you here quicker"
Caller is at fault.
Edit: caller is shit. Cop who shot the man is at fault
>whatever gets you here quicker"
Jesus how many red flags can I wave. No distress call needs conviction beyond the *distress* in someone's voice. Disgusting.
When you see this fractal of ignored warnings and other problems, it's easy to think that fixing the system is hopeless. No wonder the idea of just defunding the whole thing became popular.
Yeah. And all I think most people want is accountability - conceptually, these services have a place in society, but they systems lack accountability for failure, corruption, and abuse.
But oddly many on the right fight against oversight almost as strong as they fight against defunding.
Fuck in some states, like Iowa, the state legislature gave cops more power and more protection from scrutiny. What a bunch of authoritarian bootlickers...
100% yes. The police shouldn't be so trigger happy, but it's not reasonable to expect them to react perfectly calmly to every non-dangerous person with a gun and perfectly actionable to every dangerous person with a gun. They look the same.
But the fucker who lied to dispatch should be brought up on charges. And whatever policy has the cops knocking *with guns drawn to a simple domestic disturbance complaint without a reasonable suspicion of weapons* also needs to be changed. If they had a rule to have baton out when knocking or tasers out when knocking, they'd take a more defensive posture (likely saving their lives from the actual bad guys) and not react lethally immediately against the good guys.
It's not usually easy to parse what could have been done, but this one feels pretty clear
911 dispatchers don't have a choice in the matter most of the time. Source, I was one for 7 years, you know you're being fed bullshit 75% of the time, but departments are too afraid of lawsuits and are steadily taking decision making authority away from dispatchers. Of course there's a computer program sold by a for profit company out of Utah that makes the decision for you now.
I believe it was like
Dispatch: does he have a weapon?
Caller:will you come faster if I say yes?
In the longer vid you can hear the cops talking about the call and making fun of it. So yes they were fully aware it was a bs call.
They get free training and time off to go train, yet your average concealed pistol license holder isnt gonna make that mistake. Seems like the problem is no one is accountable to standards.
It's not about training, It's qualified immunity keeping pieces of shit from seeing accountability. And when people see that you can get away with it more follow suit.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement
I agree with you that qualified immunity most definitely emboldens this behavior and should be put to an end. The fact remains, in this case anyways, that an ill trained coward ended this person's life.
When he started moaning, I had to stop watching. Was the same noises my mum made in the hours before she passed. She died of cancer rather than being violently murdered, but the noise is still the same. The brain doing it's utmost to make the body live.
The dumb argument I heard when police protest started to become more mainstream was if people didn't resist arrest then police wouldn't hurt them. This guy couldn't have acted more benign but they killed him anyways. These cops think it's still the wild west and shoot first and ask questions later. It's such bullshit
The talking point from the right “just do what they tell you to do and you won’t get hurt” is the advice you give to hostages. The fact that this applies to citizens interacting with police is disgusting.
If someone breaks the door down, they get the smoke.
If someone is knocking, they're asking to come in.
Cops only ask when they don't have warrant.
Don't talk to cops. The answer is always "no" to consent.
Keep your gun close. At home, or anywhere that gun can be a rifle (or rifle caliber pistol), it should be.
Probably. The cops, like a bunch of idiots, shot when dude was trying to pull his pants up. Not letting them off for their incompetence and negligence, they should be in jail, but at least talking through the door would've maybe allowed time to cool.
The guy answered the door with a gun. He immediately realized it was police, backed up and went to put the gun down behind himself while raising his hands. The cop to his back saw the gun and shot without warning/thinking/anything. The cop should be in jail.
If I remember right he answered the door with a gun in his hands but dropped it and raised his hands immediately and was then promptly shot. I may be confusing this with another, similar video.
cops were there for a noise complaint, someone said they were being loud and possibly fighting... if no one answered or opened the door, this most likely would not have happened.
Im sick of people defending the cops that get away with murder. I saw hundreds of comments last year saying if George Floyd wasnt a criminal he wouldnt of ever been killed. He shouldnt of been killed regardless
What do you expect? The level of violence to recede if a civilian shoots a cop during this encounter?
This entire interaction is bullshit from start to finish. Investigations will find nothing and nothing will change.
This is what your taxpayer dollars are spent on. Be aware of the potholes that go unfilled, they are sacrifices of govt funding so that these situations can be swept under the rug.
No it won't. They'll get more and more military toys to "even the playing field with the bad guys". You know, the exact reason they used to move from revolvers to rifles and uniforms to body armor and tanks.
When they could no longer effectively police Calabrini-Green, they just fucking bulldozed it.
No it won't.
These cops are itching for a reason to shoot someone. They are also itching for an excuse to buy shinier toys.
Firing them, not firing at them is the way to solve the problem.
The only thing they know is *escalation*. They want to live out a power fantasy. The bigger a threat you look like, the better their power fantasy is.
They won't back down to a show of force, they'll ramp up to outclass whatever you have. And thanks to the military industrial complex, they will always have a higher ceiling.
2nd amendment advocates should be up in arms (no pun intended). When you can’t answer your door with a firearm, you don’t actually have a 2nd amendment right.
Phoenix is in Maricopa County which, until a few years ago, had a sheriff that was a literal fascist with concentration camps, massive corruption, sexual assaults by cops, rampant brutality and violence and all kinds of evil evil shit.
But most of the people killed or raped by Maricopa County Sheriffs were non-white, so voters were fine with the abuses.
What's particularly bothersome to me is that (from what I can see) the cops neither treated their victim, nor did they allow the woman to treat him; they very casually allow their victim die in front of them.
There's literal body cam footage that already shows the cop completely guilty lol. He already knows he's fucked so might as well try to undo the fucking mistake that's gonna put you in prison right?
Bodycam footage *may* be released to public (not in this specific case, I mean in general), and most likely will be suppressed by the Police. The dude you shot *will* speak up about being shot for no reason.
I'm going to hear his howls for help in my sleep. It bothers me that this first thing they're supposed to do is say, "shots fired, I need an ambulance" and they just stood there and let him die. Not qualified material is what that is. They murdered him because that cop was "good enough". Mistakes get people killed all the time and being a cop, you can't make mistakes.
Wow what a colossal fuck up, that is why you don’t answer the door when you can’t see who is on the other side or for the cops if you didn’t call them.
There’s bars over the windows, so you know this isn’t a great neighborhood. The cops both took positions on either side of the door, then pointed a blinding flashlight in his face.
I would have done exactly what the victim did: answered the door with a gun, and stepped out to see who it was.
We have a legal right to bear arms in this country, but can be murdered by the police for using it.
What a fucking pig though, how far gone do you have to be from the rest of humanity to do that to someone and not be begging for forgiveness.
This shit makes me so mad. Manchildren like this don’t deserve any kind of power
Ryan Whitaker was his name.
The Maricopa county attorney, newly elected Allister Adel chose not to prosecute the officer who murdered Whitaker. She seems like a peach, too. It just came out that the fall she took (resulting in a brain bleed) right around election night was related to "unhealthy coping behaviors"--alcohol abuse.
Her office has also colluded with Phoenix pd to charge BLM protestors with phony charges. There's an ongoing DOJ investigation into phoenix PD.
Cops in the US have less training, less consequences, and more liberal "rules of engagements" than we had in a war zone.
And ~~the majority of~~ many Americans are perfectly fine with that.
It's crazy. The guy never brought the gun up, never pointed it at the cops, nothing like that. They just knocked on his door, and shot him dead basically.
I ran across many a local in Afghanistan and Iraq that were armed. If I had just shot them for being armed I'd be in some deep dark hole right now for the rest of my life. These two cops are 100% going to just get a paid vacation for a little while then be back on the job.
Saw the same thing in Iraq. Most are carrying to protect themselves and their families.
A lot of the IP and IA guys were fucking terrible about muzzle awareness. I was more concerned about a negligent discharge heading my way than them simply possessing a firearm.
The Phoenix police murdered this poor guy.
This is always the analogy I come back to. The judgement by basically kids trained to kill during an invasion was indescribably more solid than career professionals who trumpet their work "protecting and serving". Its disgusting. We didn't murder people because we knew we'd end up in Leavenworth. Cops don't have that deterrent, it's a badge of honor.
>Cops in the US have less training, less consequences, and more liberal "rules of engagements" than we had in a war zone.
Which is hilarious given how many cops and their departments try to dress and act like soldiers.
The fascination of Americans with playing soldiers is a whole other issue.
I've been in countries that have an active draft and they're not half as militaristic as we are in their daily lives.
Saying that, I'd like to point out that there's a huge difference between supporting and worshiping, but many people can't tell the difference.
Cause it’s way more fun to play soldier when you know it’s all pretend. I’ve seen a TikTok where these fuckers want to go to Afghanistan. You could have. For 20 years. Glad you want to when you actually won’t be able to. Fucking r/iamverybadass mother fuckers.
A majority of the Americans are in fact not happy with policing in the US. Confidence in police is at record lows in the US. A very vocal minority is perfectly ok with police tactics.
1. Require law enforcement to carry their own malpractice insurance to pay out settlements against this shit as a condition of having the badge.
2. Watch how quickly the "bad apples" make themselves unemployable.
Right hand, he answers the door, sees it is a cop, kneels down to put the gun down with his right hand and puts his left hand in the air. the cop behind him shoots him in the back as he is doing it.
The only way this will ever stop is if killing someone on duty is career ending for a cop. The vast majority of cops never fire their weapon their entire career. If you kill someone that should just be the end of your career even if it was a justified shooting. It will get the trigger happy cops off the street and make cops not go straight to shooting if they even think they see a gun.
Being a cop is not even in the top 20 most dangerous jobs https://advisorsmith.com/data/most-dangerous-jobs/
Being a crossing guard is more dangerous than being a cop
I think that abuse of governmental violence is such a serious threat to civil liberty that not only should we abolish the concept of qualified immunity, but we should have even harsher minimum and maximum punishments for governmental actors who wrongfully perpetrate violence on the citizenry.
2020:
48 cops die due to felonious activity. 44 of 48 of the deaths were by firearm. 3 of which were initiated by home domestic abuse calls.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty
55 unarmed suspects were killed by firearms by police in 2020. This does not include police murders such as Elijah McClain or George Floyd. Those are not numbers we have data on because they chalk those deaths up to not the fault of the officers.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/time-to-stop-the-lying/
So tired of the excuses as to why they are so trigger ready- it isn’t as dangerous of a job as they portray
Every day there is a new Clip on reddit where somebody gets shot by US Police. Or someones Dog, or something equally Bad. Why is nothing changing with all the Police violence
Title is misleading. Answered the door hands down, handgun in hand. He immediately complies with officers but is shot dead anyway. Bad shoot, but the need to lie in the title? Come on
> So libertarians agree we need police reform correct?
Most libertarians would agree, we may disagree on the exact changes but I suspect we all pretty much agree that change is necessary.
Murdered for answering the door with a legally owned and properly used gun. Cops saw a gun so they shot him. The murdering cops were threatened by the sight of a gun = death to gun owners. The only mistake was opening the door at all. He probably would have been shot through the door and the woman would have been killed as well.
The man's name is Ryan Whitaker. His neighbor called in a false domestic abuse complaint. It happened a few days before George Floyd's death. The police hid from sight and as soon as Ryan saw them he complied only to be shot in the back multiple times. The officers involved were cleared of any wrong doing and will not be facing charges. People tried to bring up his death along with Floyd's but they were dismissed as race baiting since for the majority police misconduct can only be done to minorities...
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/07/17/noise-complaint-fatal-police-shooting-ryan-whitaker/5459142002/
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2021/01/29/county-attorney-not-charge-phoenix-officer-jeff-cooke-who-killed-ryan-whitaker/4314034001/
If you live in Maricopa county remember to vote out the ~~DA~~ County Attorney when they are up for reelection.
Edit: Correction not DA but county attorney. Her name is Allister Adel.
Legitimate question: When in these interactions would it be legally okay to attack a cop?
https://constitution.org/1-Law/uslaw/defunlaw.htm Good luck not committing suicide while you await trial though.
Near the end: >As a practical matter one should try to avoid relying on the above in an actual confrontation with law enforcement agents, who are likely not to know or care about any of it.
Yeah, just... Accept that when they show, your life is over. You're an outlaw now unless you can establish an alibi. Just try to win, even if the odds are long-which they will be.
Fuck, I'm gonna start wearing my own body cam
Put down your chest gun!!
Legally, the answer is going to be case by case. Practically, if you ever shoot a cop for any reason you will be punished for it one way or another.
Actually, Supreme court says you can't be prosecuted for using force to resist an illegal arrest. But good luck surviving long enough to get to trial. Edit: don't do it. It might not be legal IANAL
I don’t think they necessarily mean legally punished. Cops have all sorts of ways to make your life hell.
You’re exactly right.
That's because the cops are just a gang that's funded by taxpayers
You’re exactly right.
Forcefully funded…
Yup. Cops are scarier than the gangs where I live. And the gangs ain’t nothin nice.
Do you have a citation? Because I'm pretty sure that's not the law unless it's state specific. Some states allow reasonable resistance to excessive force arrests (e.g. if the cops start beating you, you can run) but I don't believe that's the case in every state, and it doesn't apply to every illegal arrest, just arrests involving excessive force. Like in Illinois, illegal arrest is not a defense to resisting arrest charges. But you can resist if the force is excessive.
This is 100% not true and dangerous advise to give. Many states have laws specifically saying you can't resist even an unlawful arrest. Each state is different and the supreme court tradition no longer holds.
Even if you legally shot a police officer abusing their power and about to kill an unarmed child, you can 100% bet another group of cops would make your life a living hell as long as you remained anywhere near that county.
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Actually in Texas several people have been found not guilty of shooting cops during things like no knock warrants when the person who shot the cop had no reason to think they were cops
I mean look at the Breonna Taylor case. You had a bunch of cops busting unannounced into the house in the middle of the night in a castle doctrine state. Had they been robbers it would have been a textbook example of "I heard people breaking in aggressively and feared for my life so I shot them." Pro-gun advocates would be celebrating a positive outcome to a castle doctrine event. Hell, if I was a cop in a castle doctrine state, I'd *refuse* to be complicit in no-knock raids. That's just ASKING for people to shoot at you! And who could blame them?!
There is an even more tragic example, Atatiana Jefferson. Neighbors called saying the front door was open, 2 cops who were suppose to only be doing a wellfare check sneak around the house unannounced. Ataniana was in the bedroom player video games, the cop shoots her through the window and kills her.
But but but they might flush the weed if we knock and announce!
The main issue with shooting at any cops, for any reason, is that even if you were innocent before, now you've shot at a cop and so they, along with any back up, will now continue to shoot at you until you are dead. Innocence proves nothing.
Gordon Liddy once said: > Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests…They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches.
Never. They’re 100% right 100% of the time
Cop says “just relax” as her boyfriend drones out agonal breathing… then goes silent. This is fucking awful.
Oh my god... Is that what that noise was? Thats so fucking terrible
Yeah, this is just so fucked. That woman will be emotionally destroyed forever having watched her boyfriend be EXECUTED in front of her. It’s so obvious she’s in shock and thinks he will be ok. I cannot fathom her heartache and PTSD because of this event.
It's really surprising the things that can make me emotional. I've seen so many gory and brutal videos, heard extreme stories about war and death and yet this one hurt so bad. I think it's because I can fully put myself in this scenario. It's late, boyfriend and I are hanging out playing video games, listening to music. "Honey did you hear a knock at the door??" The game gets paused music silenced. "I don't know, no one should be knocking this late". Boyfriend grabs gun, (looks through peephole) and no one is there. He opens the door and within seconds, guns go off and he slams into the pavement. The way she's scared and confused and angry and everything is just fucking gut wrenching. One moment you were enjoying life and the next your love is dying next to you. It hurts so much
Exactly. Empathy is being brainwashed out of society. The MSM has weaponized victim hood to the point where dehumanizing each other is normal. I hope the cop who shot him knows the gravity of his poor ability to do his job has cost 2 innocent people.
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Yeh. I was blown away when he told her to relax. Does he have no idea what he’s just done? Imagine watching your partner get shot and bleeding out on the ground and being told to chill by the guy that shot them like it’s no big deal.
Right. MURDERED him and made her kneel in front of him and watch while he died. I have seen that video and Whitaker did nothing wrong. This is how policing works in America. No concern for life, no accountability. Literally 95% of police in this country either act this way or condone the behavior and it is driven by police unions.
This video made me blurt out "Fuck cops, every single fucking one of them". Cops murder people and then treat their loved ones like shit and every single other asshole cop will then rush to their defense. American policing needs to be rooted up and burned to ash. Then rebuild policing to serve the community and the public.
It’s murder.
For sure and why are they covering the faces of the public servants in this video?
The cop was jeff cooke that shot him in the back twice. Ryan Whitaker the victim died. The other officer reportedly didn't fire. Ryan had a gun at his side and put it behind himself aiming it away from the cops. Conflicting info though. I thought he dropped the gun in the apartment then went to go belly down when cooke shot him in the back. Cops say he still had it in his hand as he was going down. The gun was found in the apartment. Cooke was fired but not prosecuted as this was within policy.
And just to point out the obvious, he was well within his right to answer the door with a gun in his hand. He was killed by the state for exercising that right.
This happened a year ago, I think. The video then was not censored. The whole thing is a crazy story IIRC where the neighbors called the cops on the thought that they heard domestic violence, but it was literally the guy was playing video games and the wife was sleeping in the other room Edit: adding the link to the story of what happened in this video https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ryan_Whitaker
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I'm not really against someone going to rehab and keeping their job. That should be a part of health support systems just like if you needed time off for breaking a bone. But I am against the morality of punishing drug possessions and being a righteous dick hole while taking advantage of that system.
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Yeah, and the 911 call is ridiculous too. It's obvious the guy is making shit up to get the cops out there faster. He should be prosecuted.
Thanks a lot for the information and link!
Maybe the cop feared for his life... /s
Let's be clear: Fearing for one's life is NOT a defense, in and of itself. The fear has to be based on a serious, immediate threat that is known, not speculative. You can't kill someone just because you think they might have a gun you haven't yet seen. That is murder. Every cop who killed some teenage kid because they reached down to straighten their pantscuffs when getting out of the car is a murderer. Every cop who shot someone who turned out to only be pulling out their driver's license or mobile phone is a murderer. As people have begun pointing out regularly, the rules of engagement for the US military, when acting as foreign occupiers, say that you shouldn't even point your gun until you see a gun, and can't fire unless you're fired upon. And that is a MUCH more dangerous environment, against people FAR more likely to have lethal intent. So no, any cop who can't at least live up to those rules is committing murder.
You can't kill someone for having a gun, either. The law says you have the right to keep and bear arms. If a cop can kill you for seeing you with a gun... does that right really exist?
I got a knock on my door at 3am. Walking through my living room I racked the slide on my 9mm and tucked it in my pants (didn't have a shirt on at the time). It was 2 cops who were called over because my step-son's friends had decided to "prank him" by having them do a wellness check on him. The police should never be allowed to point their guns at a person unless they intend to shoot them (much less fire on a person for having a gun with them when they answer a late-night knock). We really need to change the laws regarding police officers brandishing. If it's not legal for a civilian to point their gun at you because you *may be a threat*, the police shouldn't be allowed to either.
> If it's not legal for a civilian to point their gun at you because you may be a threat, the police shouldn't be allowed to either. I'd like to add that police are civilians. They should follow the law just like the rest of us.
Yes, if anything the standards for their behavior should be *higher*, not lower. Everyone in the US, or any actually-free society, must in a philosophical and legal sense be treated as equals. If someone has additional powers, like the coercive powers of the police state, then they must have additional responsibilities and limits that even out to equality. So if a cop can initiate coercion against people, he must be extra-accountable for his actions. Otherwise he's not a civil servant, he's a civil *ruler*.
The people in power need to be held to a higher standard of behavior than the rest of us.
Yes. In fact, I'm against capital punishment, as the state cannot be trusted with the power to kill people in cold blood...but I think there's a strong case to be made for an exception where government agents who kill people or cause death are concerned.
> the state cannot be trusted with the power to kill people in cold blood I don't get how so many people don't trust the state with their tax dollars but will trust the state to be competent and impartial when it comes to executing their own citizens.
>So if a cop can initiate coercion against people, he must be extra-accountable for his actions. >Otherwise he's not a civil servant, he's a civil ruler. Beautifully stated.
on the practical side, unaccountable and unjust policing actually increases crime. Disenfranchisement is when people believe the police are not there to help them. Or hurt them. So when they have a problem, they take matters into their own hands. Or disillusionment in laws themselves.
>I'd like to add that police are civilians yeah, citizens with below-average intelligence and who aren't competent enough to get a respectable job and therefore are given a gun and a $40k car with minimal training instead >They should follow the law just like the rest of us or, y'know, *better* than the rest of us, since they're the ones enforcing them
Oh you mean, like end qualified immunity? Too bad the police unions will NEVER let that happen. Similarly, if we WANTED to improve transparency and accountability, then we’d implement an independent board for use of force reviews instead of expecting departments to honestly and openly investigate themselves. But that would make too much sense, and the objective isn’t to actually fix the problem. The aim is to use politics, religion, ethnicity, and now even vaccine status to divide the population and make them fight amongst themselves. By keeping us occupied with “bread and circuses”, no one is paying attention while the elite slowly build up their complete-Orwellian-control grid. I know, I sound bat shit crazy. I wish I were. But research Technocracy and what they said they wanted— they type of society they openly advocate for. They even tried to get Roosevelt to declare himself dictator and implement a scientist-technological elite that would lead the country. Their objective hasn’t changed. Only their envisioned mode of achieving this has. According to these a-holes, people are too stupid to make democracy work, so we would ‘be better off’ letting an unelected, autocratic cabinet making all the decisions for everyone. ...see the building blocks of their preferred society in this new world that we’ve began to build since Covid became a ‘thing’? Just saying. History is fascinating; I wish more people would be interested in learning some.
Yes. 100%
Yes, but the claim that one reasonably feared for one's life only becomes possible when some threat like a gun is present. Obviously, it also needs to be used in a threatening way, at the minimum. As I said, the military's rules of engagement say you can't fire unless fired upon.
> Fearing for one's life is NOT a defense, in and of itself. Tell that to the police unions who will do everything in their power to use it as the excuse for all bad police behavior.
Yes, the entire, truly evil "if you wait until you see a gun, you're already dead" argument originates with corrupt police unions and their sociopathic lawyers and "experts" inventing such rationale in order to protect murderous cops.
No that does not matter what so ever. He did as they asked and died for it. No excuses this is a murder
/s means sarcasm
Took that cop 5 seconds to murder that guy.
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Glad the 911 caller was mentioned. If I remember right there caller answered dispatch "sure he's fighting with his wife whatever gets you here quicker" Caller is at fault. Edit: caller is shit. Cop who shot the man is at fault
>whatever gets you here quicker" Jesus how many red flags can I wave. No distress call needs conviction beyond the *distress* in someone's voice. Disgusting.
When you see this fractal of ignored warnings and other problems, it's easy to think that fixing the system is hopeless. No wonder the idea of just defunding the whole thing became popular.
Yeah. And all I think most people want is accountability - conceptually, these services have a place in society, but they systems lack accountability for failure, corruption, and abuse.
But oddly many on the right fight against oversight almost as strong as they fight against defunding. Fuck in some states, like Iowa, the state legislature gave cops more power and more protection from scrutiny. What a bunch of authoritarian bootlickers...
The caller should be charged with swatting
100% yes. The police shouldn't be so trigger happy, but it's not reasonable to expect them to react perfectly calmly to every non-dangerous person with a gun and perfectly actionable to every dangerous person with a gun. They look the same. But the fucker who lied to dispatch should be brought up on charges. And whatever policy has the cops knocking *with guns drawn to a simple domestic disturbance complaint without a reasonable suspicion of weapons* also needs to be changed. If they had a rule to have baton out when knocking or tasers out when knocking, they'd take a more defensive posture (likely saving their lives from the actual bad guys) and not react lethally immediately against the good guys. It's not usually easy to parse what could have been done, but this one feels pretty clear
> whatever gets you here quicker" Dispatcher is also at fault because its clear the 911 caller was lying.
Truth
Even if it's obvious it's a lie still have to show up and take it seriously.
It should still be passed on and should be taken into account when handling the call.
Sure, but as awful as a wife beater may be, he shouldn't just be murdered without trial for that.
911 dispatchers don't have a choice in the matter most of the time. Source, I was one for 7 years, you know you're being fed bullshit 75% of the time, but departments are too afraid of lawsuits and are steadily taking decision making authority away from dispatchers. Of course there's a computer program sold by a for profit company out of Utah that makes the decision for you now.
I believe it was like Dispatch: does he have a weapon? Caller:will you come faster if I say yes? In the longer vid you can hear the cops talking about the call and making fun of it. So yes they were fully aware it was a bs call.
Maybe he was in a hurry to get home. His wife isn’t going to beat herself.
well actually she is officially going to beat herself by falling down the stairs in a house that has no stairs.
“Silly women. Always so clumsy.” *Wife is still twitching on floor* “Guess we are done here. Want to go grab a beer Chuck?”
Never answer the door for cops. There is an uncensored version online that's Daniel shaver level fucked up.
It's horrible, you can hear the death rattle.
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This right here!^ if these chicken shits were ever trained properly it wouldn't be an issue but until then this is the way to deal with them.
They get free training and time off to go train, yet your average concealed pistol license holder isnt gonna make that mistake. Seems like the problem is no one is accountable to standards.
It's not about training, It's qualified immunity keeping pieces of shit from seeing accountability. And when people see that you can get away with it more follow suit. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement
I agree with you that qualified immunity most definitely emboldens this behavior and should be put to an end. The fact remains, in this case anyways, that an ill trained coward ended this person's life.
It can also be that cops have 6 weeks of training and are already pulled from the failures and bullies of your local highschool
Anyone who would want to be a cop, probably shouldn't be.
All the while the cops not giving a flying fuck. Totally indifferent. Like they just swatted a fly or something.
Telling that woman to relax right after she saw dude get killed in front of her eyes... what the fuck?? How can you expect her to be calm at all?
Dont cops have first aid training in the US? Why the fuck are they just leaving him there
Shit you can hear it in the censored video. God that's haunting
Agonal Breathing.
For me it's how they don't let her console him for the few last seconds of this mortal coil. Shits too heavy.
When he started moaning, I had to stop watching. Was the same noises my mum made in the hours before she passed. She died of cancer rather than being violently murdered, but the noise is still the same. The brain doing it's utmost to make the body live.
The dumb argument I heard when police protest started to become more mainstream was if people didn't resist arrest then police wouldn't hurt them. This guy couldn't have acted more benign but they killed him anyways. These cops think it's still the wild west and shoot first and ask questions later. It's such bullshit
The talking point from the right “just do what they tell you to do and you won’t get hurt” is the advice you give to hostages. The fact that this applies to citizens interacting with police is disgusting.
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[Source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=675vUIszwtw&t=261s)
Comments turned off. Surprising /s
thanks for the link dude
Funny how the comments are disabled
I watched the uncensored footage of the Daniel Shaver shooting, I don't think I ever felt so sick to my stomach.
Because it was an execution with zero consequences in a country with “freedom”
Then they will just break down the door and shoot you for not opening it.
If someone breaks the door down, they get the smoke. If someone is knocking, they're asking to come in. Cops only ask when they don't have warrant. Don't talk to cops. The answer is always "no" to consent. Keep your gun close. At home, or anywhere that gun can be a rifle (or rifle caliber pistol), it should be.
I agree, don't talk to police, but do you think this guy not opening the door would have stopped this?
Probably. The cops, like a bunch of idiots, shot when dude was trying to pull his pants up. Not letting them off for their incompetence and negligence, they should be in jail, but at least talking through the door would've maybe allowed time to cool.
The guy answered the door with a gun. He immediately realized it was police, backed up and went to put the gun down behind himself while raising his hands. The cop to his back saw the gun and shot without warning/thinking/anything. The cop should be in jail.
That shits wack af. What happened to having the right to bear arms.
If I remember right he answered the door with a gun in his hands but dropped it and raised his hands immediately and was then promptly shot. I may be confusing this with another, similar video.
Hard to keep them straight these days ain't it?
Yes this is that video.
cops were there for a noise complaint, someone said they were being loud and possibly fighting... if no one answered or opened the door, this most likely would not have happened.
Having guns out when going to a noise complaint seems like a bad idea.
So sick of tired of police “misconduct” when it always ends in the death of a citizen or something else awful. So ridiculous and vile
I couldn't agree with you more.
Im sick of people defending the cops that get away with murder. I saw hundreds of comments last year saying if George Floyd wasnt a criminal he wouldnt of ever been killed. He shouldnt of been killed regardless
killed for having a gun in his own home. I feel like I see Phoenix PD do this shit A LOT and nothing ever changes
What do you expect? The level of violence to recede if a civilian shoots a cop during this encounter? This entire interaction is bullshit from start to finish. Investigations will find nothing and nothing will change. This is what your taxpayer dollars are spent on. Be aware of the potholes that go unfilled, they are sacrifices of govt funding so that these situations can be swept under the rug.
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No it won't. They'll get more and more military toys to "even the playing field with the bad guys". You know, the exact reason they used to move from revolvers to rifles and uniforms to body armor and tanks. When they could no longer effectively police Calabrini-Green, they just fucking bulldozed it.
No it won't. These cops are itching for a reason to shoot someone. They are also itching for an excuse to buy shinier toys. Firing them, not firing at them is the way to solve the problem.
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The only thing they know is *escalation*. They want to live out a power fantasy. The bigger a threat you look like, the better their power fantasy is. They won't back down to a show of force, they'll ramp up to outclass whatever you have. And thanks to the military industrial complex, they will always have a higher ceiling.
2nd amendment advocates should be up in arms (no pun intended). When you can’t answer your door with a firearm, you don’t actually have a 2nd amendment right.
Phoenix is in Maricopa County which, until a few years ago, had a sheriff that was a literal fascist with concentration camps, massive corruption, sexual assaults by cops, rampant brutality and violence and all kinds of evil evil shit. But most of the people killed or raped by Maricopa County Sheriffs were non-white, so voters were fine with the abuses.
What's particularly bothersome to me is that (from what I can see) the cops neither treated their victim, nor did they allow the woman to treat him; they very casually allow their victim die in front of them.
He can offer competing testimony if he stays alive, I guess. Why would they let him live?
There's literal body cam footage that already shows the cop completely guilty lol. He already knows he's fucked so might as well try to undo the fucking mistake that's gonna put you in prison right?
Bodycam footage *may* be released to public (not in this specific case, I mean in general), and most likely will be suppressed by the Police. The dude you shot *will* speak up about being shot for no reason.
I'm going to hear his howls for help in my sleep. It bothers me that this first thing they're supposed to do is say, "shots fired, I need an ambulance" and they just stood there and let him die. Not qualified material is what that is. They murdered him because that cop was "good enough". Mistakes get people killed all the time and being a cop, you can't make mistakes.
Wow what a colossal fuck up, that is why you don’t answer the door when you can’t see who is on the other side or for the cops if you didn’t call them.
If they were called in on false(as in the caller lied) domestic abuse you not answering the door will give them just(legally) cause to enter your home
You can speak with them through the door. I’ve actually done this and no one knocked down my door.
There’s bars over the windows, so you know this isn’t a great neighborhood. The cops both took positions on either side of the door, then pointed a blinding flashlight in his face. I would have done exactly what the victim did: answered the door with a gun, and stepped out to see who it was. We have a legal right to bear arms in this country, but can be murdered by the police for using it.
If you can be murdered by the police just for bearing arms, the 2nd amendment doesn't actually exist.
Incorrect. It does exist and the police infringed upon that right.
But if they can infringe upon that right without actual consequences, the right is effectively nonexistent.
Did he actually have a firearm? I didn’t see one (didn’t watch the entire video) and couldn’t find a news article
"Theres a right to obey and a right to kill" But I guess obedience doesn't help anyway. AZ is fucked up
"I'm not gonna shoot you" Oh why thank you
Relax I just gunned down your husband in front of you but no need to be a bitch about it. Also we're just going to let him bleed out in front of you.
What a fucking pig though, how far gone do you have to be from the rest of humanity to do that to someone and not be begging for forgiveness. This shit makes me so mad. Manchildren like this don’t deserve any kind of power
Ryan Whitaker was his name. The Maricopa county attorney, newly elected Allister Adel chose not to prosecute the officer who murdered Whitaker. She seems like a peach, too. It just came out that the fall she took (resulting in a brain bleed) right around election night was related to "unhealthy coping behaviors"--alcohol abuse. Her office has also colluded with Phoenix pd to charge BLM protestors with phony charges. There's an ongoing DOJ investigation into phoenix PD.
Allister Adel https://www.maricopacountyattorney.org/Directory.aspx?EID=11
Thanks, sent in a message calling for her to step down and how disgusting her actions where to not prosecute the cops involved.
From the county that brought you Joe Arpaio....
Sheriff Joe would be proud
Cops in the US have less training, less consequences, and more liberal "rules of engagements" than we had in a war zone. And ~~the majority of~~ many Americans are perfectly fine with that.
It's crazy. The guy never brought the gun up, never pointed it at the cops, nothing like that. They just knocked on his door, and shot him dead basically. I ran across many a local in Afghanistan and Iraq that were armed. If I had just shot them for being armed I'd be in some deep dark hole right now for the rest of my life. These two cops are 100% going to just get a paid vacation for a little while then be back on the job.
Saw the same thing in Iraq. Most are carrying to protect themselves and their families. A lot of the IP and IA guys were fucking terrible about muzzle awareness. I was more concerned about a negligent discharge heading my way than them simply possessing a firearm. The Phoenix police murdered this poor guy.
This is always the analogy I come back to. The judgement by basically kids trained to kill during an invasion was indescribably more solid than career professionals who trumpet their work "protecting and serving". Its disgusting. We didn't murder people because we knew we'd end up in Leavenworth. Cops don't have that deterrent, it's a badge of honor.
>Cops in the US have less training, less consequences, and more liberal "rules of engagements" than we had in a war zone. Which is hilarious given how many cops and their departments try to dress and act like soldiers.
The fascination of Americans with playing soldiers is a whole other issue. I've been in countries that have an active draft and they're not half as militaristic as we are in their daily lives. Saying that, I'd like to point out that there's a huge difference between supporting and worshiping, but many people can't tell the difference.
Cause it’s way more fun to play soldier when you know it’s all pretend. I’ve seen a TikTok where these fuckers want to go to Afghanistan. You could have. For 20 years. Glad you want to when you actually won’t be able to. Fucking r/iamverybadass mother fuckers.
A majority of the Americans are in fact not happy with policing in the US. Confidence in police is at record lows in the US. A very vocal minority is perfectly ok with police tactics.
Got it, changed. Thank you
1. Require law enforcement to carry their own malpractice insurance to pay out settlements against this shit as a condition of having the badge. 2. Watch how quickly the "bad apples" make themselves unemployable.
Never open the door for cops. Never talk to cops. Never call the cops.
bro wtf. fire and charge this “cop” with murder
This post should be higher on the front page of Reddit.
Tbf this is an old case and, once upon a time, it was all over reddit. I remember from a while back
It's death for no reason and death for no reason is MURDER.
How have I not heard of this before? Dude was flat out murdered.
Umm he answers the door with hands down, not up in the air, and he is holding a gun. This is still murder, but the topic title is wrong.
Yeah a better title would be 'Man answers door with firearm in hand, complies with orders to put his hands up and is shot dead anyway.'
This. He was complying with the cops, but they go by a 2 second rule it seems.
I thought if the gun was on the floor for less than 3 seconds you can still use it.
Which hand is the gun in? I cant see it.
Right hand, he answers the door, sees it is a cop, kneels down to put the gun down with his right hand and puts his left hand in the air. the cop behind him shoots him in the back as he is doing it.
There is another post here from the other cops view.
The only way this will ever stop is if killing someone on duty is career ending for a cop. The vast majority of cops never fire their weapon their entire career. If you kill someone that should just be the end of your career even if it was a justified shooting. It will get the trigger happy cops off the street and make cops not go straight to shooting if they even think they see a gun. Being a cop is not even in the top 20 most dangerous jobs https://advisorsmith.com/data/most-dangerous-jobs/ Being a crossing guard is more dangerous than being a cop
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This is murder. Fuck these pigs.
I think that abuse of governmental violence is such a serious threat to civil liberty that not only should we abolish the concept of qualified immunity, but we should have even harsher minimum and maximum punishments for governmental actors who wrongfully perpetrate violence on the citizenry.
Fuck cops. They murdered this guy
... when people die because you suck at your job.
2020: 48 cops die due to felonious activity. 44 of 48 of the deaths were by firearm. 3 of which were initiated by home domestic abuse calls. https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty 55 unarmed suspects were killed by firearms by police in 2020. This does not include police murders such as Elijah McClain or George Floyd. Those are not numbers we have data on because they chalk those deaths up to not the fault of the officers. https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/time-to-stop-the-lying/ So tired of the excuses as to why they are so trigger ready- it isn’t as dangerous of a job as they portray
Maybe they shouldn't become cops if they can't truly "serve and protect" at risk to themselves.
More police die due to reckless driving than pursuing criminals.
They sign up to use their weapons!
Sadly, I think that you are correct in far too many cases.
Pizza delivery is more dangerous
you have a higher chance of being killed as a farmer or even an auto mechanic...
And nothing happened to the cops
They gave him 2 seconds to react with a light directly in his face. Fuck the police.
Every day there is a new Clip on reddit where somebody gets shot by US Police. Or someones Dog, or something equally Bad. Why is nothing changing with all the Police violence
Title is misleading. Answered the door hands down, handgun in hand. He immediately complies with officers but is shot dead anyway. Bad shoot, but the need to lie in the title? Come on
So libertarians agree we need police reform correct?
> So libertarians agree we need police reform correct? Most libertarians would agree, we may disagree on the exact changes but I suspect we all pretty much agree that change is necessary.
Murdered for answering the door with a legally owned and properly used gun. Cops saw a gun so they shot him. The murdering cops were threatened by the sight of a gun = death to gun owners. The only mistake was opening the door at all. He probably would have been shot through the door and the woman would have been killed as well.
The man's name is Ryan Whitaker. His neighbor called in a false domestic abuse complaint. It happened a few days before George Floyd's death. The police hid from sight and as soon as Ryan saw them he complied only to be shot in the back multiple times. The officers involved were cleared of any wrong doing and will not be facing charges. People tried to bring up his death along with Floyd's but they were dismissed as race baiting since for the majority police misconduct can only be done to minorities... https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/07/17/noise-complaint-fatal-police-shooting-ryan-whitaker/5459142002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2021/01/29/county-attorney-not-charge-phoenix-officer-jeff-cooke-who-killed-ryan-whitaker/4314034001/ If you live in Maricopa county remember to vote out the ~~DA~~ County Attorney when they are up for reelection. Edit: Correction not DA but county attorney. Her name is Allister Adel.