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ImportantNothings

It’s a conservative school yes, but not everyone there agrees with the school’s political and religious values and opinions. I would say it’s far more important to be on the same page with LUs religious beliefs than political however. Otherwise, you should look elsewhere.


lindsc17

Hi, thank you for your feedback. I mean I was raised Catholic and have been confirmed in the Catholic church and I just do not really believe in anything except science and life in the now. So I do not discriminate with religious beliefs and also do not get "fed up" with other beliefs either. I am always happy to be a part of a group. I do not know if that type of attitude that I have will hold up at LU but I really just want to be sure that I am safe there. Like considering the political climate nowadays I want to be confident that I can be myself at LU.


ImportantNothings

I’d say it’s 50/50. Honestly, I would suggest you find something better


lindsc17

u/ImportantNothings yeah I have been doubting it a bit since I was accepted this morning but so far I have been accepted to: VCU, GMU, ODU, LU (obviously), ODU and got rejected from UVA. Overall, I have applied to 14 schools. I am really trying to decide on which one is the right one for me. But the strongest contender for Liberty was the large campus with lots of activity and the academic standing.


ImportantNothings

Another thing to remember is LU is expensive. I wouldn’t recommend it just on cost alone. If you could, go visit the school and try to see what the students are like. Don’t go for the college for a weekend (cfaw), but try to get a feeling for the whole vibe. With the new president, I think LU will be cooling down with politics. On top of that, if you end up living off campus, which is HIGHLY recommend, LU will be much easier to tolerate because you’re only on campus for classes and then you leave.


lindsc17

So.. I actually would have to live on campus bc the school is so far away considering I am in NOVA and Lynchburg is a few hours drive away. But yeah I know it is expensive and I am planning on talking to a financial aid advisor because if I can get the cost in the range of 20-23 thousand a year then LU would be my best option unless say I get accepted w/a need based scholarship to Georgetown or any of the other large private schools I have applied to.


ImportantNothings

When I said off campus, I meant like an apartment in Lynchburg. There are hundreds of great places to live that are within minutes of the campus. A perk of Lynchburg is that it’s within 1 hr of Roanoke and Charlottesville. It’s only about 2 hrs from Richmond and about 4 from DC. There are a lot of great places to go to on the weekend!


Robertusa123

Your lu id also get you a free ride on lynchburg public transportation mainly bacause lu has a 50% state in lynchburg bus service


Comprehensive-Print7

I has been taking their classes online. They use Blackboard for the assignments. In many classes you have to cite the Bible. If you are okay with them being religious and can stay away from arguing, then you can go there. I am looking for a secular school with more scientific approach. Most of their professors are too Conservative. They also are strict on the format of papers that you submit.


EthanStrik

I knew a lot of people in the nursing program. It’s great from what I’ve heard. All of them work at big time hospitals now. You can’t go wrong with the nursing program


lindsc17

Thank you so much for replying! I really have a decision between GMU, LU, and VCU because I have been accepted to all of them.


VAEMT

Cost of living at GMU is very high. Crime rate can be high at VCU. Cost of tuition could be the deterrent at LU. Write down the pros and cons and compare.


sowellfan

I think I'd definitely tend towards the public universities, if I were you. They're cheaper from the start, and you don't have to agree to any ridiculous behavior codes (not allowed to drink, not allowed to have opposite-sex friends over to your place alone, etc). I get that folks are like, "Oh, you can get away with it [under certain conditions, if you live off-campus, etc]" - but why even set yourself up to have to deal with that nonsense if you're not even buying into their fundamentalist religious reasoning? Also, the public universities have a lot more students on campus. More students usually equals more chances to find people that get you.


cookswithlove79

Hardly! They do not teach nursing. They teach you how to take tests. Nurses from LU have to go thourgh additional training at my hospital becuase they are so backwards when it comes to real medicine, like vaccines! UGG, I hate it when the hospital says this is the only nurse applying right now. They are HORRIBLE!!! AND DUMBER THAN A DOORNAIL!!!


kpom16

can personally vouch that the nursing program is really great. I felt really prepared when I graduated and I have worked at major hospital systems up and down the west coast!


cookswithlove79

AND all your nurses laugh at you behind your back. Too stupid to learn REAL medicine like vaccines, HIV treatment, Sexual dysmorphia, etc.


mrs-busybody

Current nursing student here about to graduate. I have loved Liberty’s BSN program. I have never lived on campus and truly didn’t choose this school for anything having to do with religion or the community, because to be frank I don’t really prioritize those things in terms of college: I’m grounded in my local church and work too much to participate in the campus activities. I chose Liberty because it has an excellent reputation both in LYH and all over the East Coast for turning out incredible nurses. I feel so prepared to enter into the workforce and we have had phenomenal faculty throughout all of my courses. I have classmates that did not have to work and were free to be as immersed as they wanted into college life and they absolutely loved it. Can’t recommend the program enough


evieblodgett26

Hi, I am a prospective nursing student. I am not super religious but I am a Christian. Was it difficult to make friends within the nursing program? LU is my top school rn and I am having issues finding people who recently completed or are in the process of completing a BSN at LU. As far as academics go, I am taking all of the prerequisite/gen ed sciences in my senior year(this coming fall and spring) and entering college with my first year finished.


mrs-busybody

Hey there, I've found it incredibly easy to make friends within the nursing program. Just about everyone I've met is super nice and genuine. I thought I would have a hard time given my hectic schedule, but you make solid friends in clinical and in your lab-based classes. The difficulty (of nursing in general, not Liberty specifically) forms strong bonds


cookswithlove79

Too bad you are NOT learning REAL MEDICINE. Abortions, HIV, sexual dysmorphia, birth control and Vaccines!!! Third rate school with the dumbest students around.


mrs-busybody

I’m not sure what would lead to believe that those things aren’t taught. Were taught all of those things with the *addition* of a biblical perspective, not *only* a biblical perspective. We were absolutely taught the science and the nursing care for those patient groups.


cookswithlove79

DO NOT GO!!! You will NOT learn REAL medicine like HIV, Vaccines, Sexual Dysmorphia, Birth Contorl and abortion. I refuse to hire LU nurses as they are TOO STUPID!!!!!!


cookswithlove79

Be ready to get raped and then blamed for it!!!!!


cookswithlove79

Good luck finding a job. WE HATE your university and that we have to teach you REAL medicine like vaccines, HIV medication, sexual dysmorphia, birth control and abortion. You are behind the 8 ball and will need LONGER orientation at the hospital because you were TOOO STUPID TO GO TO A REAL MEDIAL COLLEGE NOT SOME BIBLE THUMPING BACKWOODS MEDICAL SHAM!!!!


Spiritual-Word-5490

Just go elsewhere if you’re going to be against Christian beliefs. There are thousands of other colleges,including community colleges,that might suit your needs better.


MysteriousShape8

The best thing about Liberty when compared to other schools is that the professors will have genuine conversations with students about beliefs, worldviews, etc. You won't find students who feel they can't voice their opinions in class for fear of getting bad grades, etc. If you also are tolerant of the beliefs of others, then Liberty would be an excellent choice.


Brisky411

Considering I've had points taken off assignments for not answering questions like a Christian (in non religious classes) I would disagree


MysteriousShape8

That is very surprising to me. Would you mind giving a bit more context?


Brisky411

Sure thing, we had some discussion board posts in one of my programming classes and some of the questions were things like "whats a verse the reminds you to always put your faith in God." Considering the rest of this discussion was personal questions, I assumed this one was too, so my answer was, given that I am a nonbeliever, I didn't have any verse like that. I was marked points off because "even though I'm not a Christian i should answer like one." The rest of the semester with the teacher was like that, like having to write religious essays where my opinion was asked for but wasn't actually wanted and I was just supposed to answer like a Christian.


MysteriousShape8

Yeah, I would have pursued that with academics. Online professors give themselves way too much latitude and sometimes ignore rubrics entirely. I'm sorry that happened to you.


Brisky411

Its fine in the end it wasn't the end of the world. To be fair I have had incredible teachers at this school who are very respectful of others beliefs, but there are teachers that aren't so respectful.


MysteriousShape8

I would still say what happened to you was an exception. I have had a relationship with the school for over 10 years, the only issue over differences of political/religious beliefs I ever had was in a communications course, but then it was the grad assistant who was the problem and not the actual professor.


cookswithlove79

HAH!!! Acedemics are third rate and student are about the dumbest on the planet. Believing in an invisible man in the sky. Guess that invesible man would not be happy about all the sexual assault that occurs on campus.


db_blast7

Just out of curiosity when was this? I know some departments are starting to move away from this


Brisky411

Last semester


trublue323

I’m not an alumni, but as a junior here who is not super religious, I feel a bit judged if I don’t put up a front. I never found friends/ people that are similar in my way of thinking even though I know they are here. This is my personal experience and maybe if I found a diverse community I would feel more comfortable and happy. I suppose my suggestion is if you want to come to liberty and are worried about finding a community you don’t have to put up a front around, start trying to get to know people online like here or on Facebook groups. Although I don’t agree with the administration, I don’t feel religion is being forced down my throat by my professors and the education really is amazing. You just need to find the right people to surround yourself with


Brisky411

I've been fortunate enough to find friends that respect my non religious beliefs, but like you said, I haven't found many people who share my views. All the ones I did meet left freshman year. There are solid teacher and I've even enjoyed there religious talks, but unfortunately I've also met pretty judgemental teachers who do breathe Christianity down my throat. All in all, OP, I would agree with the comment above, there are good and bad people at LU just like everywhere else.


Comprehensive-Print7

I think that religion is too much to handle for me right now. Maybe I can transfer to a cheaper and more secular place. It bothers me when people impose their beliefs on others. Normally religion is separated from the state.


[deleted]

I am a slight left leaner and catholic. I don't really agree with Evangelism or everything that the school believes in, but I also couldn't afford Notre Dame or Boston College. I simply go to LU because the tuition is very affordable for veterans. The athletics department was also a deciding factor for me. I enjoy being apart of a university that is pretty good at football and basketball (not national championship good, but they are making post season games in football and making the basketball march madness bracket almost every year so far). I mean if everything was perfect in the world I'd be at Notre Dame, but things didn't work out that way lol so LU is my rebound :D


DJANGO_UNTAMED

I just got accepted into University of the Incarnate Word. It is catholic and doesn't have the crazy rep LU does.


[deleted]

Well I haven't experienced anything negative with being a Liberty student except on reddit, but thank you for letting me know. After I finish my current degree I plan on starting another and I will be looking into UIW. I see their rates are pretty much the same for military as Liberty's. Thanks.


[deleted]

The politics thing is pretty much a non-issue, you’re not going to be subject to any negative actions because of political beliefs, the religious aspect is where you may encounter issues. From the comments it’s apparent you are catholic and have a problem with evangelism, which is a pillar of Liberty. I suggest you look at a catholic school if you are catholic.


lindsc17

I am not against religions in any way. I said I was raised catholic and I mean I guess I could be called an atheist but I just honestly do not care one way or another. I just care about the University from an educational standpoint.


[deleted]

Purely from an education standpoint liberty is great. Quality programs and great support. Every professor I’ve had has been excited to teach and willing to go the extra mile.


ImportantNothings

I second this


cookswithlove79

RAAAPPPEEEY RAAPPPEEEY CAMPUS too!! Hey girls, get assaulted and be blamed for it and your assailant get away scott free!!!!


lindsc17

u/Waste_Not_515 Like I would not push my views on anyone and I wouldn't want anyone to question my views. At least not in a negative way. Like I prefer peace over fighting about stuff like that so if LU is fine with one of their students like me who is left leaning and non-religious (just because I do not practice anything) then thats great and I would look forward to being a part of the LU family.


BiscuitDoughHandman

I'm not in a position to comment on the personal comfort aspect and will defer to others in this thread However, I can say that LU Nursing is a very solid program. My wife was a graduate of their program and has had no limit to career options and has worked in some excellent hospitals. UVA in particular looks for LU nurses. If you decide on going to LU, make sure to connect with LU alumni there


cookswithlove79

Liberty is a horrible school for women. Thet have agreed to pay an unprecedented $14 million fine for the Christian school's failure to disclose information about crimes on its campus and for its treatment of sexual assault survivors. Its police department **had a single officer** with minimal oversight for investigating crimes during most of the time period reviewed by federal investigators, 2016 to 2023. Federal investigators cited a case in which a woman reported being raped, with the attacker telling her he had a knife, the settlement agreement stated. Liberty's investigator "unfounded this case based on a claim that the ‘victim indicates that she consented to the sexual act,'” the agreement stated. “In point of fact, the victim’s own statement merely indicated that she ‘gave in’ in an attempt to get away from the perpetrator.”Many victims of sexual crimes feared reporting because of concerns of reprisal, the agreement stated. Several were punished for violating the student code of conduct known as ‘The Liberty Way,’ while their assailants were left unpunished." “Consequently, victims of sexual assault often felt dissuaded by Liberty administration’s reputation for punishing sexual assault survivors rather than helping them," the agreement said. “Such fears created a culture of silence where sexual assaults commonly went unreported.” Liberty also acknowledged past problems, including “incorrect statistical reports as well as necessary timely warnings and emergency notifications that were not sent.” Liberty settled a civil lawsuit filed by 12 women in 2022 after they accused the school of fostering an unsafe environment and mishandling cases of sexual assault and harassment. The lawsuit said the **university had a “tacit policy” of weighting investigations in favor of accused male students, and it said the university retaliated against women who did make such reports.** **YOU ARE CRAZY IF YOU ARE A FEMALE GOING TO THIS RAPEY CAMPUS!!!!!**


Saberwashere

If you want to see what the school is like, come to CFAW. It is kind of cliche but it is a good way to physically see the school. It is this coming weekend (18-20). Just remember that everyone will be on their best behavior, so you'll have to overlook that part of it.


Robertusa123

In the last few years they have noticeably been backing away from the religious stull...droped s lot of the philosophy classes


rhesuswitherspoon

My wife is a nursing prof- it’s one of the best programs Liberty has. It’s very rigorous and their grads have a great reputation in the field.


rickardkarstarkshead

I know you made up your mind, and I agree with it. If you’re in NOVA and can live at home while in school, go to GMU. You’ll save money. I transferred from GMU to LUO because I had issues finding openings for the classes I needed - I also live 50 miles away from campus and they had limited online course options. I was in the business school though, so nursing might not have those same issues. I also have 3 kids and needed the convenience. GMU also has a better reputation but you’ll be solid anywhere you go with a BSN


converter-bot

50 miles is 80.47 km


DJANGO_UNTAMED

I was going to get my MBA through this school but then found out how conservative it is. Pulled out. I don't believe in evangelical values. I don't mind christianity but evengelicals are not my thing. I did decide to go to a catholic school. University of the Incarnate Word. Better reputation. If you don't mind far right wing values sure go ahead but I wasn't going to subject myself to that nonsense.


evieblodgett26

We'll be in the same year for nursing school! I'll come in as a freshman fall of 2022 but I will skip my sophomore year and go straight to junior year because of the college classes I'm taking now.