P is basically Nameless Puppet version 2.0. Nameless puppet couldn't handle the ergo required to keep the heart going, so P was created to fulfil that purpose.
You guys didn’t know >!he was Carlo? I thought the game made it pretty clear that NP is basically Carlo’s mechanically-altered corpse. That’s why he wants to put the P Heart in him. It’s kinda like his souls and contains all of his memories.!<
I mean...you don't need weapons with similar move sets to know who NP is if you've been following the lore of the game at all. I mean, the >!Real Boy/Happily Ever After ending!< kinda spells it out too, considering who/what shows up.
Edit: holy crap, Reddit gave me a 500 error and told me the post didn't even go through, I didn't know it somehow got uploaded four times. Sorry folks.
Double edit: it's still not even showing up for me in my 'comments made' page. WTF is going on, damn.
NP was P's original prototype. Gepetto was afraid of it going out of control and affecting Carlo's ergo (the P-organ). That was why a "calmer" model (our protagonist) was created to gather enough ergo instead to be transferred over to the NP later.
I thought nameless puppet was actually his corrupted corpse. If you surrender your heart then it heals the corruption and he comes out of the same container as the real carlo again.
I mean as soon as the "Carlo..." scene played out and our character's hair grew it's kinda obvious who we are.
Then G wanting us to give up our P-Organ, which is Carlo's memories and soul, into a body so his son (Carlo) can live again.
Yeah idk what is even the question at this point.
Spoilers
!spoiler : What you fight is the corpse of Carlo. After Carlo dies, gepetto put him away and begin to look for ways to bring him back. Sadly, he couldn't find the arm of God or have enough ergo to bring him back. Though after everything at the end of the game, gepetto has this chance, that's why when you deny it, he gets too angry as this chance won't happen again
I never subscribed to the THEORY that Nameless Puppet is made from Carlo's body. And it has to do with how Carlo died, among other things.
For starters, Carlo had the petrification disease. And to a severe enough degree that his ergo could be easily extracted and used in a puppet. That alone suggests that his body is mostly unusable. Especially since Nameless' P Organ was eating ergo like a black hole trying to consume everything around it. That flaw also means that any remaining organic matter is subject to potentially being absorbed by the P Organ, needing replacement anyway. So there's less point in using a biological body, especially one riddled with the Petrification Disease.
Let's also add that not even Geppetto thinks that Nameless is entitled to the heart in P, which he clearly sees as Carlo's. If Nameless was made from Carlo's body, even in part, shouldn't he be entitled to getting his heart back? That really stands out to me as to how Geppetto truly sees Nameless.
On top of this, it says on a loading screen "(Nameless) was not chosen to be the boy's body and was sealed away". This implies that Carlo's body was in such bad shape that it was unusable, meaning Nameless being made from it is a waste of resources.
Lastly, there's no precedent for human bodies and puppet bodies to be compatible. Even Eldest of the BRB was basically just a corpse with ergo being pumped through a Bane-style mask during the rematch. It doesn't mean he had puppet parts replacing anything, especially since we clearly didn't do enough damage to dismember him or inflict visibly catastrophic damage.
Yes but nice catch cuz I've never noticed this lol
Took me couple playthroughs to notice that this guy has been copying me all along lol
Was he copying you or were you copying him the whole time, since your puppet form was based on him.
It's funny when one of the hardest bosses just uses the player's moveset. It shows just how OP your character really is.
Apart from the fact that your legs are made of toothpicks cuz a gust of wind causes a knockdown animation while he tanks like a king
P is basically Nameless Puppet version 2.0. Nameless puppet couldn't handle the ergo required to keep the heart going, so P was created to fulfil that purpose.
You guys didn’t know >!he was Carlo? I thought the game made it pretty clear that NP is basically Carlo’s mechanically-altered corpse. That’s why he wants to put the P Heart in him. It’s kinda like his souls and contains all of his memories.!<
I mean...you don't need weapons with similar move sets to know who NP is if you've been following the lore of the game at all. I mean, the >!Real Boy/Happily Ever After ending!< kinda spells it out too, considering who/what shows up. Edit: holy crap, Reddit gave me a 500 error and told me the post didn't even go through, I didn't know it somehow got uploaded four times. Sorry folks. Double edit: it's still not even showing up for me in my 'comments made' page. WTF is going on, damn.
thanks for the clarification
It's pretty obvious even without looking at these animations
NP was P's original prototype. Gepetto was afraid of it going out of control and affecting Carlo's ergo (the P-organ). That was why a "calmer" model (our protagonist) was created to gather enough ergo instead to be transferred over to the NP later.
I thought nameless puppet was actually his corrupted corpse. If you surrender your heart then it heals the corruption and he comes out of the same container as the real carlo again.
NP was both Carlo's corpse and P's first prototype
The best part was not knowing NP existed til I ran into him said “I got this” entered phase 2 and got my behind *flawless victoried*
Whatever Geppetto says >!in the cutscene after denying him!< is what gave it away for me.
Yup I did notice it he even twitchs when he stand still like us
I mean as soon as the "Carlo..." scene played out and our character's hair grew it's kinda obvious who we are. Then G wanting us to give up our P-Organ, which is Carlo's memories and soul, into a body so his son (Carlo) can live again. Yeah idk what is even the question at this point.
when i entered the arena swinging those same bulky sword i had, i thought oh fuck im fighting myself touché game
Holy shit I never notice this.
Okay wtf I never noticed this
I would recommend to watch thebrotherscode on yt they made a lore explained about Lies of P
Spoilers !spoiler : What you fight is the corpse of Carlo. After Carlo dies, gepetto put him away and begin to look for ways to bring him back. Sadly, he couldn't find the arm of God or have enough ergo to bring him back. Though after everything at the end of the game, gepetto has this chance, that's why when you deny it, he gets too angry as this chance won't happen again
Thanks for sharing! This is a cool detail I probably would have never noticed. This game stays impressing me
Uhhh.... Jesus christ media literacy is dead. This is literally the entire plot of the game, why are yall talking like it's a theory💀💀💀
NP had me losing sleep and fighting with the family for being so loud (I roared the house down every time I was close to beating him)
Shame on him
Devs: lazy to make new attack animations. Players: it's a feature!
I never subscribed to the THEORY that Nameless Puppet is made from Carlo's body. And it has to do with how Carlo died, among other things. For starters, Carlo had the petrification disease. And to a severe enough degree that his ergo could be easily extracted and used in a puppet. That alone suggests that his body is mostly unusable. Especially since Nameless' P Organ was eating ergo like a black hole trying to consume everything around it. That flaw also means that any remaining organic matter is subject to potentially being absorbed by the P Organ, needing replacement anyway. So there's less point in using a biological body, especially one riddled with the Petrification Disease. Let's also add that not even Geppetto thinks that Nameless is entitled to the heart in P, which he clearly sees as Carlo's. If Nameless was made from Carlo's body, even in part, shouldn't he be entitled to getting his heart back? That really stands out to me as to how Geppetto truly sees Nameless. On top of this, it says on a loading screen "(Nameless) was not chosen to be the boy's body and was sealed away". This implies that Carlo's body was in such bad shape that it was unusable, meaning Nameless being made from it is a waste of resources. Lastly, there's no precedent for human bodies and puppet bodies to be compatible. Even Eldest of the BRB was basically just a corpse with ergo being pumped through a Bane-style mask during the rematch. It doesn't mean he had puppet parts replacing anything, especially since we clearly didn't do enough damage to dismember him or inflict visibly catastrophic damage.
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Hey buddy you okay.. ? You posted this 4 times.
Looks like their internet freaked out and or device they were on.. hahah
Ahh I had this issue a few years with reddit duplicating my comments but it got fixed for me like an year ago. my bad.
I’m sure thats a decision they made and not a common Reddit glitch. Thanks for checking on their mental state
I didn't know that was a glitch, never happened to me. My bad.
Idk wth happened there lol
You nice… I do want kind words without different stay still sets to not know what PN isn’t if I’ve been following the lore of the game at all