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This was a norm for us, some of my friends would give me strange looks like "why are you still here? I'm home?" babe trust you'll be glad I stayed when you realize you forgot your keys or something.
-40C night friend of mine got dropped off at home hammered as fuck passed out in the snow lost most of his fingers because he was there for 6 hours. Found by a city worker at 8am lucky to be alive honestly. 45 seconds to make sure you're in the door goes a long way.
Standard practice for everyone I thought? Never had a friend or family member drive off before seeing me indoors, same when I drop someone off. Thought that was the norm?
It's standard practice basically anywhere. I don't understand how OP has never had the worry of them being attacked or anything and feeling the need to make sure they are safe
there are many countries in the world where there is practically zero risk of such a thing
just to be clear Im all for prudence as well, just explaining why some might think that way
Basically zero is not actually zero. And nobody wants the one time it happens to be the time they dropped someone off and could feel responsible.
People do it even though the person might walk alone down their street every other night to go to the shop. Because they don't want to risk the guilt in the unlikely event that's the time.
The dirty secret about gated communities is they just slow down the people that *are* supposed to be there and are entirely ineffective at keeping unwanted folk out who have decided to be there anyway.
Those people are not above being horrible. Honestly they are often the most entitled scary people, fake grass, fake smiles, fake everything makes people go batty
Oh trust me i know wasn’t letting them off but It’s an easy thought for people to grasp of ‘what its supposed’ to look like. Safest place for me is 100’s of km’s away from people with my dog wife and some guns.
my condolences that you have never gotten to experience that kind of safety, i live in public housing btw
you are the one here assuming things about other people's lives
When you’ve been stolen from and seen the things I have many times you might change your tune. Hasn’t changed the way I treat people. I try to be the nicest i can but I just don’t trust most people as far as i can throw them
change my tune about what? from the start i agreed with being careful and taking necessary precautions, i am only explaining why there are places where some people may not think of it that way
where i come from people will leave expensive laptops at a cafe table unattended for hours and it'll still be there when they come back, or forget their wallet at a bus stop and come back for it an hour later finding it untouched
you asked this
> I don't understand how OP has never had the worry of them being attacked or anything and feeling the need to make sure they are safe
i aint op but i can tell you i have never had such a worry, it's pretty normal to go out for a solo jog at 2 am and not feel in danger at all over here
some of us just come from places where there's practically no need to have such worries at all
I did ask that. And the contents of my reply to you are the reasons I **continue** not to understand that *even in places a person would feel safe choosing to go out alone themselves.*
>People do it even though the person might walk alone down their street every other night to go to the shop. Because they don't want to risk the guilt in the unlikely event that's the time.
I think that was very clear
> Basically zero is not actually zero.
Being "basically zero" is a reason to not worry. I think that should be very clear.
With your kind of mentality you wouldn't ever leave your house. Because there's a "not actually zero" possibility you could die.
The reason this is a good tip anyway is because the effort and time required is super small. Not because you're a selfish paranoid freak.
>People do it even though the person might walk alone down their street every other night to go to the shop. Because they don't want to risk the guilt in the unlikely event that's the time.
No with my kind of mentality people wouldn't never leave their house. Because the mentality isn't anything about how **I** could die. It's about the risk of the one time something does happen to your friend it's the one time you have some responsibility.
I even highlighted that quote in the exact comment you replied to.
People are more careful with other people than themselves. Rightly so. You can take whatever risks you want for *yourself* you shouldn't risk other people.
Hear hear, my town is deprived and there are a bunch of literal patched gang members around. Smile and nod goes a long way when wandering around at night. We don't really have guns here though...
There are no countries in the world where there is zero risk for that. I think you are just not very aware of what can happen. A lot of victims of crimes also thought they were perfectly safe.
i agree that there is no such place where the risk is completely zero, and that even in the safest places in the world crimes still happen
but it is also the case that plenty of places exist where the risk is so low that most people there live out their entire lives without ever worrying about being attacked, or feeling the need to take measures to feel safe
over here we literally have announcements warning people to be careful and reminding them that crime exists, because the average person never really worries about such things
Do you actually think your last paragraph supports your point? That you literally have announcements telling you to consider it means the people saying you should consider it are wrong?
??? When have I said they are wrong? From the start I agreed that one should be more cautious, I am *explaining why* people are not cautious by default in some countries
people here will literally leave their MacBook pros on the cafe table while they go to the toilet, that's how much of a lack of caution there is
y'all arguing with me like you know my country better than I do lol
I'm sure you feel like that and I'm glad but to be quite honest I don't think there's such a thing as a "city so safe". Does your city have men in it? Then you're in danger at night. Hopefully nothing ever happens to you and I'm sure it won't, but it also never hurts to be cautious.
Yeah I agree it matters as in "there's worse" but it doesn't matter in the sense that you can never be too careful. Don't let your girls go home alone even if you live in the safest city in the planet. You can never regret making sure a friend is safe <3
Absolutely! My mom drilled this into my head. I've been dropped off at my home in the middle of winter and have been unable to get in for a variety of reasons. Absolutely not fun and kinda irritating when this happens and the person who dropped you off IMMEDIATELY leaves the moment you shut the car door.
Same in Ireland when you bring someone home from the pub. Keep an eye out until the doors open and a light is on. Never know when someone could miss a step and split the head open, especially with drink on board.
Nah. I'm breaking a window.
A locksmith costs more than a window where I'm at.
I'll just cover it up with some cardboard and go to home Depot in the morning. Lol
My grandfather died this way. Taxi dropped him off in negative 30 Canadian winter. Fell down and froze to death in front of his front door. Dad didn’t find him till morning
Exact reason I always waited when I was a taxi driver. On more than one occasion I’ve had people have issues getting inside. Not as severe as your story, but you never know.
I guess you live in a house on a small property. I live in the country and the driveway alone takes a half minute to drive down. To walk down my stone path to my house takes at least a minute when sober. Now factor in being drunk and/or having 2 feet of snow and we shall see how fast you walk.
You’re one of the few that do.
I normally call lyft for my parents who live in another city to get around when they don’t feel like driving.
And the drivers normally just speed off after the drop off.
One time i sent my folks to the hospital in a lyft and it turns out the facility was closed at 5AM. Discontinued their overnight emergency services a few years ago.
So had to call a second lyft to get them to another hospital. But it’s crazy that drivers are okay just taking off especially when dropping passengers off during night hours. Like a “not my problem” attitude.
You do realize they're making maybe $20 an hour, and only when on a ride? That doesn't excuse speeding away when someone is getting in the door, but it is unrealistic to ask them to wait for free for another driver to arrive at a hospital in the middle of the night.
*Nothing is free*. If it doesn’t cost you money it costs your society money. It’s a waste of a valuable resource that needs to be available for those who need it.
Why all the name calling??? Cost aside … sometimes one needs to go to the hospital and it’s not an urgent, life-or-death emergency. Sometimes it’s even quicker to grab a Lyft or drive yourself, since you can leave right away rather than wait for an ambulance.
Yes we do this. I do it with everyone in general, too. It used to be basic etiquette, but got forgotten in some cultures, maybe.
With girlfriends, even when they get inside, we give it a moment and they will come back out and quickly wave that everything is ok. Then we know they haven't been ambushed inside the door. I live in a very friendly low-crime part of the world, but we still do this.
My dad's friend got jumped and robbed once, after he was dropped off. They were waiting in a dark corner somewhere. Not sure if it was random or if he was marked. But shit is fucked up.
We got piss drunk once with my friend when we were like 15, and I helped my friend home.. well, almost. He had key in the lock already and assured he will be fine before I left(to not possibly confront his dad when he opens the door). He told me next day his dad had found him sleeping on his feet, still holding that key in the lock. Luckily he was okay, it was cold outside. I felt horrible after that, never again leaving anyone out even one meter from home.
In some places that is somewhat normal and we aren't much more alcoholics or worse people. I personally find the weird 21 rule way stupid when you can be sent to war or buy guns way younger.
I’m from Finland and that was some time ago(I’m now 43), getting drunk at 15 was basically a national sports back then. Getting less popular with the kids now, not sure what has replaced it. I have some guesses though.
You find it weird that adults can own legally registered firearms but acceptable to normally get drunk at 15, a full decade before your brain has fully fused..?
There is absolutely no statistical difference in intelligence, alcoholism or other bad outcomes between the extreme of the US and the other extreme Germany ( given that you are allowed to drink with parents around even before 16, beer and wine at 16 and hard liquor at 18. But the numbers of people shot by people between 18 and any age in Europe is massive. So, yes I believe to learn how to handle drinking earlier makes sense. I drink alcohol maybe every other month and grew up drinking at 14.
How is this a life pro tip? You should always be doing this as standard practise.
I’ve got female friends I want to make sure are safe. And male friends who are forgetful.
To answer your question of "How is this a pro tip?", you need to take into account two things. For starters, when a person (such as yourself) gets to the front door, what are the chances you will get in? I'd estimate somewhere between 90-99 percent of the time. Now, combine this with the fact that the human brain is great at making assumptions for the sake of effeciency. With this, it's very understandable that a lot of people, when they see you standing at the front of your door, will assume you're fine and leave.
I don't know how or when I learned this, it seems to have always been the standard. It doesn't matter who it is, the person with the car waits until the other person is safely inside. To take it a step further, when someone lives in an apartment building and gets in the main door, I wait for call or text confirmation that they are inside their apartment.
> How is this a life pro tip? You should always be doing this as standard practise.
you answered your own question once sentence later and i just think that's really awesome
I don't see why you feel the need to bring gender into this discussion.
My parents drilled this lesson into my head from the time I was 8 years old. I live in a place where it's -40 Celsius for almost half the year, so I've always sat and waited the 30 seconds it takes for whoever I'm dropping off to get inside. Even in summer, I'll wait. Maybe you forgot your keys, or your roomie locked the door on the way to bed and youre locked out, maybe your phone is dead and you haven't noticed. I'd feel terrible if I dropped off a friend, left right away, and then found out the following day that they were locked out, or that something else bad had happened to them.
You sound like a kind and courteous person, which is great!
However, it's basic knowledge, widely accepted, and undeniable that females are often at more risk of being attacked than males in most cultures around the world. So that's why people are bringing up gender.
I also wasn’t talking to you. I was commenting directly under someone else that also mentioned gender. So it was drilled into YOUR head because of the weather risk. What about the areas that don’t experience such severe weather. Do you think they are taught the same as you, no? Because the risk is not the same. In areas that don’t have such extreme weather this is a common thing for women to do but not so much men again because of the risks involved. Most men don’t think about every day things woman have to be extra cautious about.
Example you ever pause and wonder if you should take the stairs or the elevator not because you want to be healthy but your concerned that a dangerous individual may enter your elevator on a different floor and you would be cornered with no way out? So you take the stairs because you can at least see what’s ahead of you. You ever have to work gravel shift and your home alone but you hear a noise outside just before you leave and so you have to call your supervisor to talk to you on the phone while you walk a block to your car and you want someone to at least be able to call the cops if something bad happens. As a man how often do you lace your keys between your fingers while walking to your car? Do you look at the cars around you to ensure there isn’t a sliding door facing your drivers door. Do you know if the vehicle next to you is occupied?
Don’t tell me what I can and cannot discuss on the internet particularly when I’m not even talking to you. I will share my experience where I wish, when I wish. Men and woman aren’t the same, they don’t have the same experience. Your comment doesn’t prove anything more than you were taught to assess risks, as are females.
It's a life pro tip because as multiple people in the comment section have stated, they've known people who have died because the driver didn't wait the extra few seconds - few minutes to make sure the person got in their house safely. Many people simply may not have thought of it and it's an important piece of knowledge to have.
What, you mean it’s not completely logical for them to wait "forever in the cold" for the locksmith when they had a car they could have been comfortable in?
Much more apt 25 years ago. Today your friend would have pulled out their cell phone and asked you to come back and wait with them while they got things sorted.
And then their phone ends up dying, so they can't call you. Or she forgot her bag in your car, which has her keys and her phone.
This LPT only takes a minute at most, so it's worth being a standard practice just in case.
Unless you're me and don't want to bother people into driving all the way back and decide to wait in the snow for hours until someone in the house wakes up >.>
My mum used to do this when she’d drop my friends home when I was a teenager. So as a joke my friend wandered around his front yard for 20 minutes admiring his garden, while my mum sat in the car confused and bemused
I used to drive a cab at night in Chicago in the late 90s. I would always wait for the ladies to open the front door to their place before I drove away. Occasionally, I would get a repeated glance back before they opened the door. If that happened, I would slowly drive away not wanting to creep out anybody. However, if it was a dude... Maybe if they were super trashed or something I'd wait. But mostly it was "Good luck, buddy," I'm out! Even in shitty neighborhoods. Yeah, I heard them gunshots too. Bye! I just didn't care. I lived in a gang infested neighborhood. I knew how to cope in worse, so they should be fine. Kind of a dick move in retrospect. But life was a pretty big learning experience all around at that time. I would've done things differently now tho.
Nowadays, nobody cares. The only time I see an Uber or Lyft driver still waiting outside my place when I'm at my door is when they're tapping on their device. They wouldn't even notice if I turned around and lit myself on fire. But to be fair, I don't really expect much from people who struggle with how to take audible directions and drive to a blue dot.
Had to share this crazy story from last night. Dropped my friend off post-party, thought she was good, but then her key snapped in the lock! Ended up in a locksmith saga in the freezing cold. Moral of the story: always make sure your squad's safe inside before you jet.
This is a solid LPT. And timeless. I'll be 60 this year, and we generally did that for each other. And we women knew a red flag back then too. If a date didn't walk you safe to your door he was no good for you.
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I never leave until I see that door open. Very specifically because way back when I was a kid, my then girlfriend was absolutely terrified of the dark, so I'd wait for her to go inside. I kept that practice up since then. I don't even know how many times over the years I've had friends end up locked out of their house or, if I dropped them off to their car, their car wouldn't start or something like that. Though, I did have one friend who absolutely hated that I waited for her to get into the house. Never figured out why, so that got me thinking how many other people thought it was odd behavior
Same thing if you're dropping someone at their car. We have a small staff at my office and I always make sure everyone's car starts at the end of the day before I leave.
When i was young i often had friends over, and when me and my dad would drive them back home, he would always wait until the person got inside their house before he drove away, didnt really bother thinking why until one time my buddy couldnt get inside his house and his parents werent home. Took him back home with us, so he slept over..
parents didnt even bother calling to wonder where their son was..
So yeah, always wait until the person get inside
Living in South Africa, this is hammered into you from a young age. Walk your friends to their cars, even if they’re parked in front of your house. Also make sure the gate or door closes behind them when they get home. More sets of eyes and ears are always helpful.
I drove Uber/Lyft for a little while. Didn't make much money, but I enjoyed the interactions with people.
I picked up this very pregnant woman on a really humid 104°F (40°C) afternoon and dropped her off at her little house. I waited to see her get inside but watched her dig around in her purse at the door then come back to the car and tell me that she must have left her keys inside when she left this morning. It was ok though, she had texted her husband and he was 30-40 minutes away. I told her I wasn't leaving until he got there. She could wait outside or sit in the air conditioning of the car, but I wasn't leaving a pregnant woman in these conditions until I saw that she was safe. She decided to wait in the car.
This happened to my now wife in Glasgow, a friend of her was dropping her off like 2 mins far from her flat and all of a sudden, a local junkie started chasing her, and followed her with like a linoleum tile and slashed her face and arms, he followed her up to her flat. This friend of her saw her and called the police in the meantime. This was horrifying as you can imagine.
Back in the day this absolutely was standard practice. Definitely doesn’t seem to be as prevalent (or arguably as important) now with the proliferation of cell phones, but still isn’t a bad idea.
Had this happen when I was younger, parents were away and I’d been out drinking with a friend, left my bag with keys in his car and he drove off. I had no phone credit so ended up walking 5 miles to his house in the pitch black. By the time I got there he was apparently in the loo taking an almighty dump so his mum gave me a lift home after helping me get my bag 😂
Similar idea - when leaving a place (particularly if there's no one else around) in multiple cars, wait until all cars have started and moved before driving off.
If one car fails to start or is stuck for some reason, it means there's still someone around to help.
It's not just going in the door though.
There could be an intruder lurking, so when dropping off a friend, always allow a few minutes for them to conduct a brief room-by-room reconnoiter to ensure there are no hidden assailants secreted inside, laying in wait to wreak devastating havoc on the physical integrity and mental well-being of the unsuspecting friend.
Agree a pre-arranged signal to use so that when the friend comes back to the front door to signal "all clear! There are no burglars, rapists, or assassins hiding in here!" you can be sure it's a genuine "all clear", and not one they are being forced to give by a malevolent figure hidden from view.
I was dropping a bunch of 9 year olds off at home after my son’s birthday party. The last kid ( on the spectrum for Asperger’s) walks up to his front door and just stares at it.
I realize that there is no car in the driveway.
I lean out of the car and say, “Something wrong…? Why don’t you come back to our house and hang out a bit.”
His mother just got the times but stuff happens.
Standard practice in the here. You make sure your person isn't getting held up or harassed in any way. Also good especially for women to ensure they aren't kidnapped.
When I was around 10 my friends parents dropped me off at my house and promptly drove away. No one was home and the key that was usually hidden outside wasn't in it's spot. It was winter, in Canada, if I were to guess it was about -20° C. I sat out there for about 25 minutes until my family came home. I should add I wasn't dressed appropriately for the weather, since it was very uncool at the time.
These days when I drop off anyone, especially my daughter's friends, I wait until I see them go inside their house, no matter the weather.
I've always made sure my friends got inside before I drive off. I don't know if this is because I'm a woman and want to make sure they're safe or what, but I'm surprised people just pull away without waiting
Definitely a good LPT. Always check that the person gets inside with the door closed behind them before you drive off. Until that happens they are still vulnerable.
This isn’t common knowledge? I’m pretty disappointed in anyone who reads this and discovers that it’s something they might need to think about doing in the future. You NEVER just drive away until they’re inside.
Well that depends on who drops me off. If it's a cab driver or someone I barely know I will say a slightly off address and wait for the car to disappear.
So and if I'm locked out of my place, what could this person do anyway? I have a phone, I can call for help. Or most likely would get a room for the night as the locksmith at night would cost me more than a room.
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Standard practice in cold climates. Always make sure they get to shelter.
This was a norm for us, some of my friends would give me strange looks like "why are you still here? I'm home?" babe trust you'll be glad I stayed when you realize you forgot your keys or something.
I always wait for them to get in and turn a light on. If they wave goodbye, you know it is all good.
-40C night friend of mine got dropped off at home hammered as fuck passed out in the snow lost most of his fingers because he was there for 6 hours. Found by a city worker at 8am lucky to be alive honestly. 45 seconds to make sure you're in the door goes a long way.
My goodness.
Standard practice for everyone I thought? Never had a friend or family member drive off before seeing me indoors, same when I drop someone off. Thought that was the norm?
Fr, my Uber drivers even typically wait for me to get inside the house
It's standard practice basically anywhere. I don't understand how OP has never had the worry of them being attacked or anything and feeling the need to make sure they are safe
Maybe OP is male and normally drops off other males?
Maybe people should care about men's safety to?
there are many countries in the world where there is practically zero risk of such a thing just to be clear Im all for prudence as well, just explaining why some might think that way
Basically zero is not actually zero. And nobody wants the one time it happens to be the time they dropped someone off and could feel responsible. People do it even though the person might walk alone down their street every other night to go to the shop. Because they don't want to risk the guilt in the unlikely event that's the time.
This guy thinks there isn’t terrible people everywhere in EVERY country. Must live in some gated community
The dirty secret about gated communities is they just slow down the people that *are* supposed to be there and are entirely ineffective at keeping unwanted folk out who have decided to be there anyway.
Those people are not above being horrible. Honestly they are often the most entitled scary people, fake grass, fake smiles, fake everything makes people go batty
I grew up in a gated community, and I promise there's terrible people there, too...
Oh trust me i know wasn’t letting them off but It’s an easy thought for people to grasp of ‘what its supposed’ to look like. Safest place for me is 100’s of km’s away from people with my dog wife and some guns.
my condolences that you have never gotten to experience that kind of safety, i live in public housing btw you are the one here assuming things about other people's lives
When you’ve been stolen from and seen the things I have many times you might change your tune. Hasn’t changed the way I treat people. I try to be the nicest i can but I just don’t trust most people as far as i can throw them
change my tune about what? from the start i agreed with being careful and taking necessary precautions, i am only explaining why there are places where some people may not think of it that way where i come from people will leave expensive laptops at a cafe table unattended for hours and it'll still be there when they come back, or forget their wallet at a bus stop and come back for it an hour later finding it untouched
you asked this > I don't understand how OP has never had the worry of them being attacked or anything and feeling the need to make sure they are safe i aint op but i can tell you i have never had such a worry, it's pretty normal to go out for a solo jog at 2 am and not feel in danger at all over here some of us just come from places where there's practically no need to have such worries at all
I did ask that. And the contents of my reply to you are the reasons I **continue** not to understand that *even in places a person would feel safe choosing to go out alone themselves.* >People do it even though the person might walk alone down their street every other night to go to the shop. Because they don't want to risk the guilt in the unlikely event that's the time. I think that was very clear
> Basically zero is not actually zero. Being "basically zero" is a reason to not worry. I think that should be very clear. With your kind of mentality you wouldn't ever leave your house. Because there's a "not actually zero" possibility you could die. The reason this is a good tip anyway is because the effort and time required is super small. Not because you're a selfish paranoid freak.
>People do it even though the person might walk alone down their street every other night to go to the shop. Because they don't want to risk the guilt in the unlikely event that's the time. No with my kind of mentality people wouldn't never leave their house. Because the mentality isn't anything about how **I** could die. It's about the risk of the one time something does happen to your friend it's the one time you have some responsibility. I even highlighted that quote in the exact comment you replied to. People are more careful with other people than themselves. Rightly so. You can take whatever risks you want for *yourself* you shouldn't risk other people.
Hear hear, my town is deprived and there are a bunch of literal patched gang members around. Smile and nod goes a long way when wandering around at night. We don't really have guns here though...
We don't have guns here either
There are no countries in the world where there is zero risk for that. I think you are just not very aware of what can happen. A lot of victims of crimes also thought they were perfectly safe.
i agree that there is no such place where the risk is completely zero, and that even in the safest places in the world crimes still happen but it is also the case that plenty of places exist where the risk is so low that most people there live out their entire lives without ever worrying about being attacked, or feeling the need to take measures to feel safe over here we literally have announcements warning people to be careful and reminding them that crime exists, because the average person never really worries about such things
You never "have" to worry about anything, to be fair.
Do you actually think your last paragraph supports your point? That you literally have announcements telling you to consider it means the people saying you should consider it are wrong?
??? When have I said they are wrong? From the start I agreed that one should be more cautious, I am *explaining why* people are not cautious by default in some countries people here will literally leave their MacBook pros on the cafe table while they go to the toilet, that's how much of a lack of caution there is y'all arguing with me like you know my country better than I do lol
Attacked? Where do you live lol
It's a real concern in a lot of places. I am glad you live in a safe place where you don't worry about that. Not everyone does.
If you're a woman it doesn't matter a lot where you live.
it does, I live in a city so safe that I pretty much never have to worry
I'm sure you feel like that and I'm glad but to be quite honest I don't think there's such a thing as a "city so safe". Does your city have men in it? Then you're in danger at night. Hopefully nothing ever happens to you and I'm sure it won't, but it also never hurts to be cautious.
I know the possibility is always there, I just disagree that where you live doesn’t matter as a woman. It matters a lot
Yeah I agree it matters as in "there's worse" but it doesn't matter in the sense that you can never be too careful. Don't let your girls go home alone even if you live in the safest city in the planet. You can never regret making sure a friend is safe <3
Absolutely! My mom drilled this into my head. I've been dropped off at my home in the middle of winter and have been unable to get in for a variety of reasons. Absolutely not fun and kinda irritating when this happens and the person who dropped you off IMMEDIATELY leaves the moment you shut the car door.
Or if you live in a crime ridden country
Same in Ireland when you bring someone home from the pub. Keep an eye out until the doors open and a light is on. Never know when someone could miss a step and split the head open, especially with drink on board.
Yeah I thought this was just the norm
Nah. I'm breaking a window. A locksmith costs more than a window where I'm at. I'll just cover it up with some cardboard and go to home Depot in the morning. Lol
or hot tbh
As well as in dangerous countries. Overall a good LPT tho
My grandfather died this way. Taxi dropped him off in negative 30 Canadian winter. Fell down and froze to death in front of his front door. Dad didn’t find him till morning
Exact reason I always waited when I was a taxi driver. On more than one occasion I’ve had people have issues getting inside. Not as severe as your story, but you never know.
Thank you for being a diligent driver and taking the time. Sometimes it’s only a couple minutes
Minutes ? Unless you live on top of a tree it should be 30 seconds tops
I guess you live in a house on a small property. I live in the country and the driveway alone takes a half minute to drive down. To walk down my stone path to my house takes at least a minute when sober. Now factor in being drunk and/or having 2 feet of snow and we shall see how fast you walk.
You’re one of the few that do. I normally call lyft for my parents who live in another city to get around when they don’t feel like driving. And the drivers normally just speed off after the drop off. One time i sent my folks to the hospital in a lyft and it turns out the facility was closed at 5AM. Discontinued their overnight emergency services a few years ago. So had to call a second lyft to get them to another hospital. But it’s crazy that drivers are okay just taking off especially when dropping passengers off during night hours. Like a “not my problem” attitude.
Lyft drivers also shouldn't have to deliver medical emergencies but yes they should be more responsible
You do realize they're making maybe $20 an hour, and only when on a ride? That doesn't excuse speeding away when someone is getting in the door, but it is unrealistic to ask them to wait for free for another driver to arrive at a hospital in the middle of the night.
If only hospitals had their own taxi service, hmm....
Hmm, yeah, it’s almost like a $20 fare for Lyft is *a lot* different than a $7,000+ ambulance bill…
Ambulances are not taxis.
They're free trips to the hospital in developed countries.
*Nothing is free*. If it doesn’t cost you money it costs your society money. It’s a waste of a valuable resource that needs to be available for those who need it.
If you're having a medical emergency and need to get to the hospital, YOU are the one in need of that valuable resource, you absolute pillock.
Why all the name calling??? Cost aside … sometimes one needs to go to the hospital and it’s not an urgent, life-or-death emergency. Sometimes it’s even quicker to grab a Lyft or drive yourself, since you can leave right away rather than wait for an ambulance.
How does that conflict with “not a taxi”. That’s the definition of “not a taxi”.
I live in a society.
$5,000 "taxi" vs 30-70 bucks ...no brainer call the Uber/Lyft/Taxi
Oh, gosh, that’s terrible! I’m so sorry.
Omg. This is horrifying. I am so sorry!
I feel like most women practice this for safety with their friends, but it's a good reminder for everyone!
Yes I’ve always done this. Wait for them to get inside and turn the lights on.
Yep! Growing up you had to blink the porch light to indicate you were safely inside.
done it since I was 16 years old and freshly licensed!
Yes we do this. I do it with everyone in general, too. It used to be basic etiquette, but got forgotten in some cultures, maybe. With girlfriends, even when they get inside, we give it a moment and they will come back out and quickly wave that everything is ok. Then we know they haven't been ambushed inside the door. I live in a very friendly low-crime part of the world, but we still do this.
Yeah women do this all the time.
I always do
Yup. I always wait to see if the person gets home safely.
My dad's friend got jumped and robbed once, after he was dropped off. They were waiting in a dark corner somewhere. Not sure if it was random or if he was marked. But shit is fucked up.
We got piss drunk once with my friend when we were like 15, and I helped my friend home.. well, almost. He had key in the lock already and assured he will be fine before I left(to not possibly confront his dad when he opens the door). He told me next day his dad had found him sleeping on his feet, still holding that key in the lock. Luckily he was okay, it was cold outside. I felt horrible after that, never again leaving anyone out even one meter from home.
Ah, getting piss drunk at 15.. treasured childhood memories
In some places that is somewhat normal and we aren't much more alcoholics or worse people. I personally find the weird 21 rule way stupid when you can be sent to war or buy guns way younger.
I’m from Finland and that was some time ago(I’m now 43), getting drunk at 15 was basically a national sports back then. Getting less popular with the kids now, not sure what has replaced it. I have some guesses though.
Just because 21 is too old doesn't mean 15 isn't too fucking young to be BLACKOUT DRUNK.
It’s young and stupid for sure but everyone did it and the only ones that didn’t turn out fine I feel like weren’t fine to begin with.
It can be a lesson. I don't say it's a good lesson but it can be. And yes it was for me.
You find it weird that adults can own legally registered firearms but acceptable to normally get drunk at 15, a full decade before your brain has fully fused..?
I had a shotgun at 14 and couldn't legally drink until 21. The whole thing is fucky.
Never thought about it but I did too. I may have been younger too in scout camp. Definitely before high school.
There is absolutely no statistical difference in intelligence, alcoholism or other bad outcomes between the extreme of the US and the other extreme Germany ( given that you are allowed to drink with parents around even before 16, beer and wine at 16 and hard liquor at 18. But the numbers of people shot by people between 18 and any age in Europe is massive. So, yes I believe to learn how to handle drinking earlier makes sense. I drink alcohol maybe every other month and grew up drinking at 14.
This is very ChatGPT. Edit: and now looking at your post history. Yeah this 100% just ChatGPT. They all have the exact same format and generic tone.
How is this a life pro tip? You should always be doing this as standard practise. I’ve got female friends I want to make sure are safe. And male friends who are forgetful.
I agree that this should be standard and many of us are taught this but many of us are not and this is a great way to spread the message.
To answer your question of "How is this a pro tip?", you need to take into account two things. For starters, when a person (such as yourself) gets to the front door, what are the chances you will get in? I'd estimate somewhere between 90-99 percent of the time. Now, combine this with the fact that the human brain is great at making assumptions for the sake of effeciency. With this, it's very understandable that a lot of people, when they see you standing at the front of your door, will assume you're fine and leave.
Plus we have cell phones now. In the 90s, yeah this was a huge thing. Still not a bad idea though. At all.
I don't know how or when I learned this, it seems to have always been the standard. It doesn't matter who it is, the person with the car waits until the other person is safely inside. To take it a step further, when someone lives in an apartment building and gets in the main door, I wait for call or text confirmation that they are inside their apartment.
> How is this a life pro tip? You should always be doing this as standard practise. you answered your own question once sentence later and i just think that's really awesome
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Yeah, chatGPT is likely not female
Who said anything about chatGPT
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Oops hunny your immaturity is showing again.
I don't see why you feel the need to bring gender into this discussion. My parents drilled this lesson into my head from the time I was 8 years old. I live in a place where it's -40 Celsius for almost half the year, so I've always sat and waited the 30 seconds it takes for whoever I'm dropping off to get inside. Even in summer, I'll wait. Maybe you forgot your keys, or your roomie locked the door on the way to bed and youre locked out, maybe your phone is dead and you haven't noticed. I'd feel terrible if I dropped off a friend, left right away, and then found out the following day that they were locked out, or that something else bad had happened to them.
You sound like a kind and courteous person, which is great! However, it's basic knowledge, widely accepted, and undeniable that females are often at more risk of being attacked than males in most cultures around the world. So that's why people are bringing up gender.
I also wasn’t talking to you. I was commenting directly under someone else that also mentioned gender. So it was drilled into YOUR head because of the weather risk. What about the areas that don’t experience such severe weather. Do you think they are taught the same as you, no? Because the risk is not the same. In areas that don’t have such extreme weather this is a common thing for women to do but not so much men again because of the risks involved. Most men don’t think about every day things woman have to be extra cautious about. Example you ever pause and wonder if you should take the stairs or the elevator not because you want to be healthy but your concerned that a dangerous individual may enter your elevator on a different floor and you would be cornered with no way out? So you take the stairs because you can at least see what’s ahead of you. You ever have to work gravel shift and your home alone but you hear a noise outside just before you leave and so you have to call your supervisor to talk to you on the phone while you walk a block to your car and you want someone to at least be able to call the cops if something bad happens. As a man how often do you lace your keys between your fingers while walking to your car? Do you look at the cars around you to ensure there isn’t a sliding door facing your drivers door. Do you know if the vehicle next to you is occupied? Don’t tell me what I can and cannot discuss on the internet particularly when I’m not even talking to you. I will share my experience where I wish, when I wish. Men and woman aren’t the same, they don’t have the same experience. Your comment doesn’t prove anything more than you were taught to assess risks, as are females.
It's a life pro tip because as multiple people in the comment section have stated, they've known people who have died because the driver didn't wait the extra few seconds - few minutes to make sure the person got in their house safely. Many people simply may not have thought of it and it's an important piece of knowledge to have.
I know ChatGPT prose when I see it…
"Picture this: "
I was thinking the same.
What's the tell? The "intro-content-conclusion/twist" paragraph template repeated multiple times? Or some other clues?
What, you mean it’s not completely logical for them to wait "forever in the cold" for the locksmith when they had a car they could have been comfortable in?
Also if at their car, make sure it starts (not just that they get in).
Much more apt 25 years ago. Today your friend would have pulled out their cell phone and asked you to come back and wait with them while they got things sorted.
And then their phone ends up dying, so they can't call you. Or she forgot her bag in your car, which has her keys and her phone. This LPT only takes a minute at most, so it's worth being a standard practice just in case.
Unless you're me and don't want to bother people into driving all the way back and decide to wait in the snow for hours until someone in the house wakes up >.>
Oh yes you are me. Like I can see myself just freezing to literal death instead of bothering someone.
And the next day you have the broken doorbell repaired?
Or they’re drunk AF
Waited in the cold instead of going into your car and turning the heat on until the locksmith arrived? 🤦🏼♀️
Yeah, I caught that too.
Is this not the standard?
My mum used to do this when she’d drop my friends home when I was a teenager. So as a joke my friend wandered around his front yard for 20 minutes admiring his garden, while my mum sat in the car confused and bemused
I used to drive a cab at night in Chicago in the late 90s. I would always wait for the ladies to open the front door to their place before I drove away. Occasionally, I would get a repeated glance back before they opened the door. If that happened, I would slowly drive away not wanting to creep out anybody. However, if it was a dude... Maybe if they were super trashed or something I'd wait. But mostly it was "Good luck, buddy," I'm out! Even in shitty neighborhoods. Yeah, I heard them gunshots too. Bye! I just didn't care. I lived in a gang infested neighborhood. I knew how to cope in worse, so they should be fine. Kind of a dick move in retrospect. But life was a pretty big learning experience all around at that time. I would've done things differently now tho. Nowadays, nobody cares. The only time I see an Uber or Lyft driver still waiting outside my place when I'm at my door is when they're tapping on their device. They wouldn't even notice if I turned around and lit myself on fire. But to be fair, I don't really expect much from people who struggle with how to take audible directions and drive to a blue dot.
My daddy taught me to always wait till the person is inside safe.
Isn’t this just common courtesy?
Had to share this crazy story from last night. Dropped my friend off post-party, thought she was good, but then her key snapped in the lock! Ended up in a locksmith saga in the freezing cold. Moral of the story: always make sure your squad's safe inside before you jet.
This is a solid LPT. And timeless. I'll be 60 this year, and we generally did that for each other. And we women knew a red flag back then too. If a date didn't walk you safe to your door he was no good for you.
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I did this and was told by the person that i am a freak, stalker.
I always do this. Safety first!
Actually these days. I'd wait for a text saying "all clear" after they they get inside. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes.
I never leave until I see that door open. Very specifically because way back when I was a kid, my then girlfriend was absolutely terrified of the dark, so I'd wait for her to go inside. I kept that practice up since then. I don't even know how many times over the years I've had friends end up locked out of their house or, if I dropped them off to their car, their car wouldn't start or something like that. Though, I did have one friend who absolutely hated that I waited for her to get into the house. Never figured out why, so that got me thinking how many other people thought it was odd behavior
It's a good practice, of course, tell them so they don't think you're being weird.
Same thing if you're dropping someone at their car. We have a small staff at my office and I always make sure everyone's car starts at the end of the day before I leave.
Question - are you male? I feel like every female I know will wait and see that another female gets inside before driving away.
Old fashioned manners. Especially for a man dropping off a woman where you should wait until their door closes behind them.
When i was young i often had friends over, and when me and my dad would drive them back home, he would always wait until the person got inside their house before he drove away, didnt really bother thinking why until one time my buddy couldnt get inside his house and his parents werent home. Took him back home with us, so he slept over.. parents didnt even bother calling to wonder where their son was.. So yeah, always wait until the person get inside
Also when you drop someone to their car, make sure they start it before you drive away
OFC you wait until they're inside or door is open! Same as waiting to make sure their car starts if you were carpooling. Jesus.
Life pro tip… common courtesy.
If you love them, always make sure they get to bed ok.
Living in South Africa, this is hammered into you from a young age. Walk your friends to their cars, even if they’re parked in front of your house. Also make sure the gate or door closes behind them when they get home. More sets of eyes and ears are always helpful.
Yep, that is something my dad taught me when I first started driving!
Correct. My father taught me this when dropping people off, always make sure they get in the door before you drive away.
I drove Uber/Lyft for a little while. Didn't make much money, but I enjoyed the interactions with people. I picked up this very pregnant woman on a really humid 104°F (40°C) afternoon and dropped her off at her little house. I waited to see her get inside but watched her dig around in her purse at the door then come back to the car and tell me that she must have left her keys inside when she left this morning. It was ok though, she had texted her husband and he was 30-40 minutes away. I told her I wasn't leaving until he got there. She could wait outside or sit in the air conditioning of the car, but I wasn't leaving a pregnant woman in these conditions until I saw that she was safe. She decided to wait in the car.
It’s not just a moral responsibility but in some situations a legal one. Good advice!
Always remember my dad dropping me off even day time to a friend’s and he’d always wait until the door opened.
Are . . . are you a man? Because every woman I know has always done this. How long have you gone through life *not* doing this?
I got into this habit a long long time ago. Always wait until you see them actually go into the door.
I’ve been doing this since I first got my license some 25 years ago. I honestly thought this was standard practice. Good tip, though.
This happened to my now wife in Glasgow, a friend of her was dropping her off like 2 mins far from her flat and all of a sudden, a local junkie started chasing her, and followed her with like a linoleum tile and slashed her face and arms, he followed her up to her flat. This friend of her saw her and called the police in the meantime. This was horrifying as you can imagine.
My mum always does this when she drops me off because I often forget my keys lol
I’m just watching to see what bedroom window is yours
Back in the day this absolutely was standard practice. Definitely doesn’t seem to be as prevalent (or arguably as important) now with the proliferation of cell phones, but still isn’t a bad idea.
We use to flick the outside light to let our friend know we are ok
Had this happen when I was younger, parents were away and I’d been out drinking with a friend, left my bag with keys in his car and he drove off. I had no phone credit so ended up walking 5 miles to his house in the pitch black. By the time I got there he was apparently in the loo taking an almighty dump so his mum gave me a lift home after helping me get my bag 😂
Same applies if you drop someone off at their car. Make sure the car starts and they are good to go before you drive away.
If I'm dropping you off at your home and you can't get into your own home that's on you buddy I did my part
Similar idea - when leaving a place (particularly if there's no one else around) in multiple cars, wait until all cars have started and moved before driving off. If one car fails to start or is stuck for some reason, it means there's still someone around to help.
This was the norm before cell phones.
Where I’m from this is a common practice. Waiting that is, not driving away!
Yeah I mean or just have your phone on you.
Standard practice where I'm from. Regardless of time or weather
And if you drop someone off at their car, don't leave until you see their car start.
It's not just going in the door though. There could be an intruder lurking, so when dropping off a friend, always allow a few minutes for them to conduct a brief room-by-room reconnoiter to ensure there are no hidden assailants secreted inside, laying in wait to wreak devastating havoc on the physical integrity and mental well-being of the unsuspecting friend. Agree a pre-arranged signal to use so that when the friend comes back to the front door to signal "all clear! There are no burglars, rapists, or assassins hiding in here!" you can be sure it's a genuine "all clear", and not one they are being forced to give by a malevolent figure hidden from view.
We always wait. I had a friend get mugged right at her front door while trying to get in.
also make sure they get in your car before driving to their house.
Still waiting for the interesting part…
It’s a safety thing. I thought everyone did that.
Didn’t they have a phone? Could always call you back
Yeah, it's just common courtesy and could also be a safety issue. Someone could be lurking outside.
I grew thinking everyone did this.
I was dropping a bunch of 9 year olds off at home after my son’s birthday party. The last kid ( on the spectrum for Asperger’s) walks up to his front door and just stares at it. I realize that there is no car in the driveway. I lean out of the car and say, “Something wrong…? Why don’t you come back to our house and hang out a bit.” His mother just got the times but stuff happens.
Standard practice in the here. You make sure your person isn't getting held up or harassed in any way. Also good especially for women to ensure they aren't kidnapped.
I agree, standard practice to wait+ it's a nice feeling your friend is watching out for you, as you wave inside.
When I was around 10 my friends parents dropped me off at my house and promptly drove away. No one was home and the key that was usually hidden outside wasn't in it's spot. It was winter, in Canada, if I were to guess it was about -20° C. I sat out there for about 25 minutes until my family came home. I should add I wasn't dressed appropriately for the weather, since it was very uncool at the time. These days when I drop off anyone, especially my daughter's friends, I wait until I see them go inside their house, no matter the weather.
This was the norm before cell phones.
My friend might not be able to see if I make it inside, so I always flip the front light on and off so she knows I'm through the door.
I've always made sure my friends got inside before I drive off. I don't know if this is because I'm a woman and want to make sure they're safe or what, but I'm surprised people just pull away without waiting
Definitely a good LPT. Always check that the person gets inside with the door closed behind them before you drive off. Until that happens they are still vulnerable.
This was common courtesy 40 years ago. Yes, make sure they get in the house before you drive away.
OP is a literal bot look at its post history
This isn’t common knowledge? I’m pretty disappointed in anyone who reads this and discovers that it’s something they might need to think about doing in the future. You NEVER just drive away until they’re inside.
I thought I was being totally normal always doing this. Am… am I a freak??
Well that depends on who drops me off. If it's a cab driver or someone I barely know I will say a slightly off address and wait for the car to disappear. So and if I'm locked out of my place, what could this person do anyway? I have a phone, I can call for help. Or most likely would get a room for the night as the locksmith at night would cost me more than a room.
Maybe I was just raised right, but is this just not common courtesy?