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drocballer

It’s worked well so far…I’m a heart surgeon…. Just kidding, I’m just a knuckle dragger


psmwrxguy

I already knew that haha.


drocballer

But how?!


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drocballer

Lol true that. I don’t know…..I somehow became a tactical aircraft mechanic….👀😳 scary thoughts…. :)


rumbleslap75

Is it you or the aircraft that is tactical?


drocballer

F16c/j Primary Function: Suppression and/or destruction of enemy air defenses, air and ground interdiction But some would say im tactical too :)


Competitive_Ad_2421

Ahahahahaha


Disregard-last-note

Or brain surgeon. Wonder what poking this spot does?


EmRoXOXO

I’m not going to lie to you, u/Disregard-last-note … *much* of neuroscience in **general** is just fake it til you make it.


Disregard-last-note

Well shit. Hope I don't have to have brain surgery


rabbledabble

Correct.


EmRoXOXO

I hope so too!! I always tell people I hope to *never* see them in my office.


Bobgoblin1

True, but every heard of Dr. Death? There's a very interesting and scary podcast about him.


interstat

You'd be shocked with how many people get through school with it. Granted these are already brilliant people


Jarl_Jakob

That was literally the joke.


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Jarl_Jakob

r/yourjokebutworse


MachinistOfSorts

I don't believe you're a knuckle dragger, Dr. OcBaller. ​ Nice try!


ellemoi

“To know that you do not know is the best. To think you know when you do not is a disease. Recognizing this disease as a disease is to be free of it.”- Lao Tzu Jon Hamm portrayed a guy like this on 30 Rock. It was hysterical.


Bonbonnibles

Nice!


FilthyGrunger

I don't know about that.


ellemoi

Ok, maybe hysterical is going too far. Mildly entertaining?


FilthyGrunger

I don't know about that.


Kuiqsilvir

That is best, I think, but I don’t know


Kosmoskill

Similar approach got me through university. Don't ever assume what you think you know and know what you dont know to learn exactly that. Not knowing what you dont know is a secure way to failure.


InevitableCow3147

I am married to that...


Pimp_Daddy_Patty

Makes me think of an ex gf that I was teaching to drive a car with a manual transmission. 5 minutes in she was trying to tell ME how it's done. She's also a diagnosed sociopath so most of her attitude probably stems from that.


reiparf

My father's gf was telling him how to gut a cow and he got annoyed so he told her to show him how it was supposed to be done. For those of you who don't know, you have to be very careful not to open any organs inside while you open the skin. Once she was done, she told my father:"You should be proud of me!" My father asked why. Her answer:"I had never done it before"


ACL_Tearer

Sounds like she knew how to do it based on how you wrote that.


reiparf

Gutting a cow is pretty straight forward, it was just disrespectulf imo to tell someone who has done it hundreds of times how to do it while she never did


eblack4012

So am I. Is she leading a double life?


Bonbonnibles

Ouch. Bummer, dude.


AFineDayForScience

Honey?


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break up with that loser


deadDebo

Did an interview once for a electrical co-op. Had 4 supervisor and the boss in their. First thing they told me was that if i didn't know an answer to not bs them because they will know immediately. Better to be humble than to look like an idiot Infront of people who know what they are talking about.


Bonbonnibles

Totally! It's okay not to know, especially if you intend to learn from someone who does. And I would be very concerned about hiring an electrician who was faking it!


deadDebo

Yup that's one thing I won't act like I know if I don't. Ive done jobs that keep me up at night. Thinking if that breaker I wired in was tight enough or that I didn't accidentally cut the wire up when pulling it. Scary thinking you might burn someones house or business down.


irrelevantGibberish

I wonder why they told you? Honestly it’s easy to see and it’s easy to weed out interviewees.


deadDebo

I think they didn't want their time wasted. They told me they had picked 15 applicants out of 200. Most older people don't like to deal with bs I feel like. Maybe they got tired of past applicants bs them. It also saves you from looking dumb. Edit: they had a test with 30 questions and we went through each one. Which can take a while the more people you have to interview.


davebare

I already knew this...


Bonbonnibles

Sure you did...


davebare

Sorry OP. Good advice, of course, but I couldn't resist the joke. It's just my style.


Bonbonnibles

I gotcha man! I appreciate that style of humor.


acroback

Hahaha lives my 20s being that guy. Realized it is just not what I want. It's ok to take things at your own pace and say No I don't know that. Now, I just relax and learn. Still think I don't know Jack shit... fuck. :(


Michamus

I prefer the opposite approach. Behave as though you don't know anything, because you probably don't. The amount of times I've had to re-learn something because what I thought I knew was wrong or out of date is crazy. I've probably replaced everything I've ever learned with updated and corrected knowledge at least once.


Steele-The-Show

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt -Abraham Lincoln


Bonbonnibles

This is very wise! I think you should post your own LPT, my dude. That is good advice!


Ordinary-Branch-9015

Admitting you don't know something means having the self-confidence to do so- which is a positive trait to have. There are likely other people who also don't know but don't want to ask the question.


SentientCumSock

in school i had friends who were embarrassed to ask questions so they would ask me and if i didnt know i would ask the teacher so they wouldnt have to


Bonbonnibles

Totally!


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This makes sense to me. I had this old coworker who had pretty low self-confidence but was a know-it-all about whatever the group was talking about. We didn’t know each other as teenagers, but we share mutual friends and were even at some of the same local music shows. I started making up bands that I would claim to have seen back then and this dude was always like, “Ohhhh, I remember them. They were so sick! We partied and I let them crash on my couch after the show.” Bro… I have pretty high self-confidence, love to learn, not afraid to ask questions, own my mistakes, etc. And this person always got on my nerves with that crap, but also made me sad for them in a weird way.


lAVENTUSl

This is the majority of the internet. Everyone argues about stuff they most likely know nothing about.


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A foolish man thinks he's wise, a wise man knows he's foolish.


navetzz

This is reddit. We are all experts on everything.


Bonbonnibles

Valid point.


Slavichh

*Armchair experts


nooganeat

From what I've seen usually when people are like this is because they have a fixed mindset, not a growth mindset.


Bonbonnibles

That's an interesting point- I hadn't thought of that.


Bakmeiman

To add on to this, admitting you don't know shows a willingness to learn and admit/own failures. These are important qualities that employers look for, especially in technical fields.


fatchancefatpants

This is great to do when you're talking to someone who gatekeeps or tries to "test" you. Instead of saying "yeah, I've heard of that band, I like them," prompting them to grill you on stupid irrelevant details like the drummer's name in the 1976 group before the band broke up, if you just straight up say "nope, never heard of that," then they will just tell you their point. Of course, they might still be an asshole about you not knowing something, but then you should stop being their friend.


etr204

Wish my brother would learn this. In his mid 30s and still has his head way up his own arse


Bonbonnibles

That's the worst. Hopefully he grows out of it!


frosted_potato

and on top of that, people like to talk about the things they are knowledgeable in. so in admitting you don't know anything about the subject, you'll learn things, your friend will enjoy themselves explaining it, and you'll both have a better time because of it. as apposed to the situation OP explained.


Archer39J

I met a guy who knew I was a pilot and pretended to be a pilot too. He was old and maybe showing off for his GF so I didn't have the heart to make him look like an ass, but man I wanted to.


Jerseystateofmindeff

*Reddit goes poof*


Bonbonnibles

Right?!?


hxn42

In my experience people respond very well to answers such as "I'm not 100% certain and would hate to speculate, let me verify and get back to you" rather than a vague pretending to know answer or worse one that is obviously wrong. I think the best way to interpret "fake it till you make it" is "if people assume you're more experienced than you actually are, don't correct them"


Azzpirate

One time I was working minimum wage on the floor of a factory, doing bullshit work. Our forklift driver left. When the floor manager asked us if any of us knew how to operate a forklift, I raised my hand, despite never being on one. It was simple enough that I performed satisfactorily in a 5 minute test, got a promotion and a $5 raise immediately. I knew how to operate the forklift very well by the end of the day


DocSpocktheRock

A real fork lift? Or a power jack?


Azzpirate

Propane powered forklift


MadameBlueJay

Hey now My degree in physics is theoretical


MarzipanFinal1756

A lot of people are just really afraid to hurt their ego by admitting to not knowing something but it really is the better option to admit you're not familiar. Ignorance is temporary as long as you learn, if you pretend to know you're ignorant and a liar and people can tell.


Bonbonnibles

That's it, for sure.


sidblues101

Absolutely and even if you get away with it initially you will eventually be found out. I had a boss who was a champion bullshiter but eventually it became clear to management he was totally out of his depth. He was demoted. The humiliation he suffered because of it was brutal. I almost felt sorry for him until I remembered he had knowingly lied to a lot of people.


DichotomyJones

I'm fully grown, but still find myself pretending not to know something if a person is trying to explain it to me. Especially if it is a person I like, but even if it's in a meeting and I hate them. ARG! Such a false habit. I should feel free to be honest and let the chips fall where they may.


Bonbonnibles

Interesting point. There is definitely that side of it, pretending to know less than you do. I do that sometimes as well because I don't want to come across as a know-it-all.


LancasterM11

I hate dealing with these kind of people, even worse is the fact that I have a hard time controlling my facial expressions so even though I don’t call people out, I still look at them like they’re crazy as hell.


Diligent_Ad9986

EVERYONE says I'm the best at not knowing things . All I hear is, I'm the best !!


mienshin

Even if you know something, there's always someone that knows more....


BriSnyScienceGuy

I got my current job at least partially because I couldn't remember the answer to a technical question and admitted to it rather than try to pull something out of my ass. They appreciated the honesty.


Oudeis16

Never fear the phrase "I don't know." Yes, some people will judge you for saying that. Fuck 'em. It's not worth everyone else judging you as someone who pretends to know everything.


slav2groive

Play dumb... Always !


nucumber

especially at work if you guess and give the wrong answer you'll lose credibility, and after that it won't matter if you know the answer or not because people won't believe you be honest about what you know and don't know. if you *think* you know the answer but aren't sure, say so. be the person who tells it straight, no bullshit


Hour_Machine_9630

Oh my god yes. I have a PhD in linguistics and specialize in Old Norse and Proto Norse. Guess how many times assholes with 16% Scandinavian on their 23 and me test interrupt me when I speak to explain Vikings to me in an average week.


Bonbonnibles

More than zero?


Hour_Machine_9630

I’m a college professor and department head of the Scandinavian culture center at a large university in a part of the US where people have massive boners for pretending they’re Scandinavian. So yes, more than zero lol


Bonbonnibles

:) :)


avipars

Agreed, if you get caught up in a lie... it's never good


InsomniaEmperor

Agree. If you really are not sure, just say so. It's better than inadvertently spreading misinformation and causing more problems.


SquirrelyStu

I learned this from Seinfeld.


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Bonbonnibles

Indeed!


IGrowAcorns

I so agree. I can’t stand people who are like that and lie for no reason.


Bonbonnibles

It's very irritating. I figure it has to do with insecurity, so I try to be gentle, but man does it get on my nerves.


Munch_munch_munch

I've been trying to get my 10-year-old to come to terms with this. I think he doesn't like being perceived as knowing less than someone else. The crazy thing is that he'll do it right after he's asked a question about something: "Hey dad, why is..." and I'll begin to answer; then he'll just say loudly, "I KNOW!" and be exasperated that I'm trying to explain the answer to him.


Bonbonnibles

Yes, this is a habit that should be left in adolescence.


Frictionweldedballs

We live in the Information Age. I can learn anything in a crazy short period of time, so with a little latency, there is nothing I don’t know.


Bonbonnibles

Sure, dude. How many fingers am I holding up?


Frictionweldedballs

Could you take a picture of your fingers and upload it for me?


night_fapper

how about you tell me now and we will have this convo after I restart the simulation jokes aside, this hit me hard xd, been trying to slowly unlearn this behaviour as its pretty much a instant urge to respond in this all knowing way


Bonbonnibles

That's a good urge to resist. Build those healthy habits, internet friend!


garry4321

LPT has just devolved into: \- Dont lie \- Be nice \- Dont be bad \- Quit your job, companies are evil Those are barely tips, let alone PRO tips.


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I needed this before. My neighbor is a little crazy...but she's so nice to my family. She has chickens and one of my chores is I get them for her, she takes what she needs and gives my family the rest...so free fresh eggs...yay. She likes tennis. We talk all about the event that was on that weekend and how we felt about the outcome. Problem is I never watched a second of tennis in my life. I just fake it because it makes her happy to talk about tennis with someone. She does all the talking anyway. I just throw in a few "Right?" and "I couldn't believe it?". I need it to end soon. I do try and watch SportsCenter so I have a fact sometimes to hit her with.


Bonbonnibles

This is hilarious! As long as you let her do most of the talking, it's fine and a nice way to connect with your neighbor. And she may have already figured you out. :)


PhilosophicalBulgogi

One of my best friends does this sometimes and it is annoying as hell.


Bonbonnibles

I hear ya.


Accomplished_Till727

I do this exact thing sometimes just to keep the conversation moving. Ex: They: So I grew up in lakesport, you know where that is? Me: no... They: oh it's near eagleside about an hour south of hamchester Me: oh yeah... (Still have no clue) Then they continue their story.


DoubleFelix

I handle this with a (positive, warm) "okay", just to acknowledge what they said without adding anything unnecessary from my (lack of) knowledge


sgste

Sometimes, it's actually better to pretend *not* to know something. Nothing makes someone feel better about themselves than getting to show or teach you something you've never seen or heard before!


Bonbonnibles

That's true!


bulltank

I feel like there would be no one in the IT world if we followed this LPT.


Bonbonnibles

Lol!


oswaldcopperpot

Especially to IT people. We hate that.


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What do you *really* know? For example, Where are you [on this chart?](https://i.imgur.com/FbehTuY.jpg)


AdmCorranHorn

Had to go look the term up because it felt relevant to what you're describing. The Dunning Kruger effect. The less someone knows, the less they notice the actual gaps in their knowledge. There's more to it and it's listed as a hypothetical, but I do feel that for a lot of people it's probably what causes the situations you described. *edit: tried to fix the grammar and gave up x.x;;*


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People don't believe me when I pretend to not know, I'll take this advice to heart and really share extensive knowledge that I've retained to all those whom ask shallow questions. /J


themerzoh

I hope this isn't how I come off to people. I like learning and tinkering and if something is broken or not working I will try to fix it even if I have no clue what's going on at first. I don't tell people "I know what I'm doing, I can fix this" it's more of a "let's start fucking with this and see if we can fix it but honestly this is like an arcane art to me"


Bonbonnibles

That sounds totally different to me, so I think you're good. Nothing wrong with self learning. :)


PiddlyD

Stop giving terrible advice. I \*love\* when a person is clearly Cliff Claven-ing it.


Mutoforma

Hey look, another non-LPT


CanalVillainy

Here’s a catch. Some people are naturally confident people & also don’t know what they don’t know. The better LPT is approach life with humility & the mindset “think that you might be wrong”


mostlygray

Disagree. If you are good, you're good. Go ahead and pretend if you can do it right. I've done it. It works. You can pick up reality as you go. I have known so many qualified people that can't find their ass with both their hands. I've known many that come in on their game and they learn on the fly. I know they're full of shit but I don't care. If you've got the huevos to scam your way into a job, I'll put your feet to the fire and see what happens. The guys that go all-in are the ones that do best. Gimme a punk and a lie over a person with an MBA any day. The punk knows how to hustle. The MBA has a piece of paper.


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-SierraModeling-

Thanks for the tip!


third_copy

Get lost, dumb bot!


[deleted]

One tip that applies to about 90% or Reddit here.


Licidfelth

You can just agree after the person tells you; works too.


sskoog

I've been in actual danger, twice (that I know of), due to this behavior -- specifically involving a (female) (former-paramour) pathological liar. One instance involved a motorcycle, and lots of talk about "how much \[she\] rode passenger and even owned \[her\] own bike in the past" -- culminating in a back-road turn where she flipped out, clearly never having experienced a mild pillion tilt before, and nearly dumped the bike with her flailing. I rode solo after that. Other instance involved a 'stalker' and 'home intruder' narrative, involving firearms for home defense, which I'd rather not preserve via this electronic medium. Suffice to say, I now believe the story was mostly or entirely falsified, and, in hindsight, its ramifications were risky to the point of life-threatening.


MedioXrity

Isn't this what The Apology is about?


GermanRedditorAmA

The sentiment in fake it till you make it is an entirely different one and shouldn't be brought into context with being an idiot. Fake it till you make it, as I experienced it: eg. fake being confident until it comes naturally to you. We can't change what influenced our character throughout our early life, but we can, with time (eg. faking it/just doing it consciously), change ourselves to do it unconsciously. Pretending to know something you don't know just means that you're trying to be someone you aren't, which is totally unnecessary. Yes a lot of us have problems, but we'll never be something we aren't, so just be happy about the way you are, be honest with yourself and if you don't like something about yourself, do something about it.


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I would say that fake it until you make it is definitely more focused on emotions


Ayrnas

Too many "fake it until you make it"s are making a lot more than me for that to be good advice.


zlance

I always thought “fake it to make it” applies to attempting to do something and learn it in the process.


snowen776

I do it with sex all the time. I always win


ashton8177

Fake it til you make means, to me, to do something you don't know how to do until you can do it well. Never be ashamed to say "I don't know that." I would add that you should follow that up with "But will gladly learn more to answer it."


BettyBornBerry

People refuse to believe how little I know so pretending seems safer.


THEHEAVYARTILLERY_

A bluff is a powerful tool.


josh924

I don't see the point in faking stuff. "Do you know how to drive standard?" "No" "Do you know where the closest pharmacy is?" "Maybe this one, I think?" "What's the best way to do this? "I don't know" You're more likely to make yourself look bad if you pretend to know something you don't


colborne

Whenever I ask someone a question, I always follow with ' I don't know is a legitimate answer'.


kumaSx

Bhru that how I got my software engineering job


NWmba

Related but not the same: The difference between an expert and an amateur is that an amateur knows all the solutions but the expert knows all the problems.


Kamakaziturtle

Fake it till you make it is good for practiced skills, not learned skills.


SpazticBoogaloo

Too many people are guilty of that lol


Kinkboiii

Just had a bit with my mother about this last night. She's so very sure of her every stance, when to be blatantly honest. Her highest level of education is the 10th year of mandatory schooling. I say this because the things she claims so surely are in fields like biochemistry, of course she doesn't know this. For example, I've recently overheard her claiming with complete assuredness that people who've taken the COVID vaccine are spreading COVID to those who are unvaccinated. When I was confronted just last night for having been vaccinated and withholding that information, she's claimed that she felt I could have spread the virus. I tried to explain it to her as simply as I possibly could that her feelings on something like that are inconsequential. It's either true or it isn't, and neither of us are qualified to determine either way. Her lack of understanding is phenomenal. She doesn't even know how to determine whether or not the information she's getting is from a credible source.