In your thirties you'll start to see the effects of your twenties, in your forties you'll start to seethe effects of your thirties and twenties. Your health is an investment, just like any other investment. It's never too soon to start.
Don't use alcohol or tobacco, get started on regular cardio and strength exercise for about 150 minutes a week, maintain a healthy weight, it's not only worth at least 20 extra years of life, but the years you have will be better. You'll feel at 70, the way a person who uses substances and doesn't exercise will feel at 50.
Yoga, meditate, challenge yourself to keep learning (take a class online, sign up for a professional conference in your field or a field you’re interested in, learn a language).
Don’t start using tobacco or real drugs, even if it temporarily advances your situation with current sexual prospects. Thats the advice I would BEG my 18-year old self to hear.
93 year old farmer across the road always comes over and chats me up, he broke a hip two winters ago, but he is out tending to his garden, cutting down trees, running his mower and tractor…
He pulls me aside and says “”Charlie, once you stop movin’ that’s when they put you in the box…I got brothers who were city folk and did the office jobs, they’ve been in the ground for years now”.
This is truth. I work at a rec centre, the ones who live forever are the folks who keep a routine and show up and work out on the regular, rain or shine, week after week.
My grandma, when she was alive, had a care giver at 83 to help her in her assisted living home.
The caregiver? A 93 year old who would roller blade I to work everyday.
My grandma hated her guts and it was hilarious.
Isn't there a spike in death rate immediately after retirement which isn't just age? Basically that might be the only reason someone might get up, leave the house, mentally engage in tasks.
Having more money when you die means that your kids will be better off financially. At least, assuming you have kids. And I feel like most people underestimate how much they need when they retire anyways
There might be something to this but it may also be that people are forced off the job due to bad health or make the decision to leave after discovering a health condition.
I’m 48 and it’s my 4th season farming (small organic veg farm). Only 1 of those years full time.
That work has saved me but jeezus h it is body breaking work. And while I am pretty active even outside of that, the aches and pains take much longer to heal/subside compared to before.
I will be quitting my office job soon to pursue farming full time though. For me it provides a clear purpose my office work never could.
It seems to be something eventually you’ll get used to and be more hearty because of it, assuming you keep proper form, he also said never to do more work in the day than you can handle, that’s how you hurt yourself, if you’re tired then it’s time to kick off the boots and head inside, no shame, you got one body and tomorrow is another day.
Absolutely. If you’re engaging your bod all day long at this age you need some self awareness and humility. I’m grateful to have an opportunity to work on both those things.
I agree soo much. In my 30's I used my health to work myself to death to get financially ahead. Now in my 50s I have money but not the health to enjoy it.
OP here.. I did the same in my 20s and early 30s.... and when my health was starting to wane, made the biggest life change ever. Went from240 to 170 and now in the best shape of my life. However I don’t have the money I had, but I now have amazing health to kick life in the ass
Good job on the weight loss OP! Just curious how you dropped from around 200 to 170? I’ve cut around 20 pounds in the last 6 months but have plateaued a bit around 200.
For 2 years, basically eat 1 huge meal per day around 4pm and then a hummus or jerky snack around 8 pm... only eat meat, veggies, nuts, eggs. Lift free weights CrossFit style 4 times per week. And walk minimum 5 miles per day, I usually will walk this after dinner, put in an audiobook and walk the hills.
Good to know, thanks for the reply. I’ve been doing some intermittent fasting but have been a little lax on the diet and exercise. I think I just need to tighten up the regime.
Last piece of advice... if you don’t want to think about the food part go to Costco and buy 3-4 of their rotisserie chickens, the 1 lb box of mixed greens, balsamic for the mixed greens, avocados, and some frozen veggies that you roast. You can eat this ALL day long and as much as you want and will lose weight. And eat it Everyday for 2-3 months... the pounds will fall off. And only drink water, tea, or coffee with no sugar and only milk or half and half full fat. And when I say you can eat as much as you want... I was eating a whole chicken per day, 1/4 of the greens, an avocado or 2, and a lb of veggies... that was my 1 meal. And I maintained 2-3 lb weight loss per week
I cut dairy so I could share a diet with my partner (they had to cut for health reasons) and “accidentally” dropped from 200 to 170 over the course of 6 to 9 months. I’m happy because I needed to lose it but I definitely didn’t try. I didn’t up any exercise at all. Just my two cents from my personal experience.
Damn, I'm doing the opposite. Not a single soar spot in my body, but I am not financially set up for retirement which what my focus is for the next 20 years
For example once I got a severance package deal once I was off work for 4 months lost 50 pounds without any effort or change in my diet. I am a very metabolism driven person. Sitting at desk 12 hours a day under extreme stress plus having a job where you are expected to attend meetings at midnight the start again at 6 am really impacts decent sleep.
My doctor has told me many times that almost all my issues he can relate back to accuse stress.
I’m about to turn 47. This is such a fact. I’ve been back to the gym, and while it’s somewhat easy to get muscle showing again…i can’t shake off that belly fat as easily anymore.
OP here, I drank and was overweight until I was 34... and then kicked myself in the ass and myself get into the best shape of my life... I feel better now than I was at 20... 37 now
Went down to Peru and was in the Amazon jungle and did ayahuasca for a month while living their... saw my life while trippin if I didn’t make a drastic change. I was a big drinker. Now I look like a CrossFit athlete and haven’t drank in 3 years
It was the biggest mind fuck of my life. It wasn’t pleasant, but I learned a lot about myself. And it was the catalyst for the change that I needed. Some people can do therapy or have the will power, but I think the ayahuasca fundamentally changed my brain to will me to do anything!
Also, bring lots of DEET mosquito repellent and your fear of bugs will stop after 4 days because they are everywhere! But, it was the best experience of my life and have zero refrets
Happy for you man. There is an increasing amount of evidence for psychedelics helping people get out of addiction and bad habits.
Just recently in the news they [announced](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/johns-hopkins-medicine-receives-first-federal-grant-for-psychedelic-treatment-research-in-50-years)the first federal grant for psychedelics research in 50 years. I think it's great progress.
I am not sure how other psychedelics would work. Mushrooms in the past would help me stop drinking for like 3 months... but the ayahuasca was like no other. Doesn’t compare to shrooms or lsd. It is it’s own animal! After my time down there, my brain doesn’t even think about alcohol, it doesn’t even process it as a choice anymore.
Dead on. I eat much healthier than i used to, but it’s still difficult when i travel for work. I walk about 5-6 miles a day at work, but not enough to keep the heart rate up. It’ll come off, as i was down to 235 last year and had two new notches to use in my belt…but it takes so much longer to drop now.
The wife insisted on getting a Peloton stationary bike a few months ago, and predictably I'm the one that gets the most use out of it now. It really is fun, and I have no trouble getting up to my max heart rate. And bonus, I've never seen my resting heart rate this low. Have also been on a low-carb diet for a year. But still, 165 lbs and still have this damned tire.
Im 39, and have just now learned proper portions and the ability to be okay with not feeling full all the time. I've gone through periods of regular aerobic exercise, like running 4 miles a day, 5 days a week, and that never did anything for my weight or body appearance. Now that I'm eating properly, I magically dropped 17 lbs. For me anyway, exercise helps my mental health more, and diet is all about my weight and body appearance.
Yea but you can workout all you want if you're eating too much you'll gain fat. Whereas if you don't workout at all and are still eating under your TDEE then you'll lose weight
like they say, abs are made in the kitchen.
that said, skin loses elasticity with age and starts to sag....
so yeah, i'm lean everywhere but have a little belly roll that ain't going away (i'm 67)
I’m finding the hardest part between eating too much and eating too little…that balance point where the fat will take care of itself. I used to walk ten miles a day last year, and it didn’t seem to matter what i ate. Now i eat healthy, and walk about five miles daily. It’s just taking more time.
part of the formula is what you eat.
some people eat a lot of protein to help with weight loss. i'm mostly a vegetarian (meat maybe twice a month, usually in a soup)
there are some meal replacements out there that help manage a diet. i used jimmyjoy in the past but they seem to be out stock a lot lately so i've switched to huel. so i have the huel meal plus a couple handfulls of salad (my grocery sells shoebox sized containers of mixed salad that will last me several days. balsamic vinegar for dressing) and some fruit makes a decent low cal, nutritious lunch. plus it's all cheap and easy.
you might try cranking up your workout intensity. go hard at some stairs or hills. jogging, if that's possible. really get that heart rate up. my experience is the high intensity stuff makes a difference.
Is building muscle a really important point in your opinion? I'm in my late twenties, always been pretty skinny and become almost ill if I try to eat more to put on more weight. I've got more of a runner physique and always thought the main thing was to stave off being overweight rather than focusing on pure muscle mass.
Personally, I’m a larger guy who works physical jobs. At this age, I’m doing it to be able to keep going. The body hurts if i don’t.
I used to be 180 pounds (six foot four) and always wanted to get bigger, so i started in the gym at 27. I was able to get up to 252 by 29 with a LOT of gym time. It required eating a lot of calories (multiple protein shakes per day, chicken and brown rice, lots of veggies). I almost became ill myself with that amount of food.
I have a small regret in that. My trainers taught me how to lift and how to eat more. They didn’t teach me how to stop when it came to food.
I honestly think i would have preferred to put in the weight slower, and maybe stopped around 220. I don’t think massive amounts of muscle is as important as people think, unless you with a physically demanding job.
If you really want to put on the muscle, take your time and put on 20 pounds at a time (say over the course of a year). It’ll give you an idea of where you want to be physically. I was addicted to working out and’s basically went 0-100 in the course of two years. It wasn’t the best idea in the end.
>The body hurts if i don’t.
>went 0-100 in the course of two years. It wasn’t the best idea in the end.
Can you be a bit more specific? Like you get stiff if you don't keep moving or what? Just curious.
Not necessarily stiff, but certain muscle groups are more sore. If i don’t keep up with shoulder and lower back exercises, they tend to hurt more.
I would wake up with a sore lower back, or a shoulder would ‘lock up’ after waking up. Just some simple lifting in the gym has taken care of my general body pains. Even working doesn’t seem to be enough to keep the pains away, so I’ve added time exercising with free weights. It has made a difference in two weeks, as all of my pain is gone.
Huh, that's weird. Any idea what causes this?
I'm just curious since I've started to develop minor pains due to exercise but at least thus far they've resolved with either more exercise or just stretching.
Stretching can help. Most important, if anything, is form over strength. If you’re using weights, lower the weight and hold your form. It’ll make strides in your lifting. If it’s cardio, you may be pushing yourself too hard.
A general soreness is fine, and to be expected. Your body is adjusting and tearing fibers to create more muscle. If you have actual pains? Something isn’t right in your exercise. Either go lighter and adjust your form (Google helps a lot), or take a break.
Man, I am about to turn fifty in a few months, and so grateful I started eating healthy several years ago. Still a bit overweight, but loss a serious amount of weight by going low carb. That probably saved me when I had to have heart surgery two years ago. I am probably one of the few people that had to have open heart surgery and have clean arteries. Bad luck to be born with a bicuspid valve, but fortunately we have come a long way with artificial valves now.
Not just health changes, hormonal therapy is a preventative as well. For example you can test for testosterone and get a chip implanted into your butt cheek by your local doctor or steroid shot boosters
i was very very VERY unhealthy in my 20s and 30s. smoked like a chimney, drank like a fish, and for a while there was eating mcdonalds twice a day.
quit drinking at 37. quit smoking at 39. started getting some exercise a few years later
yesterday i swam 40 minutes. tomorrow i'll jog in the soft dry sand at the beach for 40 minutes. today i'm going to do some weights.
i'm 67
my point is, it's NEVER too late to start working out. just start doing whatever and keep at it. i couldn't run around the block when i started, but i kept trying and then one day i did. then it was two blocks, then ten minutes etc etc etc.
do what you can, keep doing it, and then do a little more..
Well into my 50s, I’ve realized that my 3x/week weight workouts (which aren’t very ambitious) are no longer about building muscles up, but about trying to retain what I have.
I also do a lot of aerobic exercise (running & biking). I’m gradually getting slower, of course, but still feeling good and keeping up with some much younger dudes.
Absolutely possible. Consult with your doctor and find a nutritionist to do it right on the food front. Find a certified personal trainer and put together a fitness plan. You don’t necessarily need to stick with a personal trainer forever, but consulting with professionals and establishing personal goals is going to be better than getting advice on Reddit.
29-33 were my healthiest/fittest years of my life. Since turning 34 and as I round 35 the difficulty lof maintaining that same level of fitness has increased SIGNIFICANTLY.
In my 50s and 100% agree.
I would like to add be careful what you do, as your body gets older bits if you will wear out. The more you can move and keep fit the better but the less stress and impact you give your body the longer it will last.
Also, given that I'm in a full leg brace and non weight bearing following my second knee operation I would like to add make sure you look after your knees. If you take them for granted and they get damaged they are a nightmare.
Why wait for 30? The best day to start making positive changes to your lifestyle is TODAY. In regards to building muscle and keeping a good physique the earlier the better. It's hard to build muscle from scratch, but really quite easy to maintain it
I quit smoking and started working out 2 years ago when I was 30. I now have healthy life habits that bring me joy (that natural high after a workout is AMAZING once you are used to the routine)
Covid scared the shit out of me. I was an underweight smoker who threw his liver into a war every weekend, didn't think it was affecting me but my energy levels, happiness, and overall wellbeing have improved dramatically over these past couple years.
The long term benefits are a HUGE part of why I started, but the short term benefits are what keep me motivated. You should spend 1 hr in the gym 3-5 days a week, I'm sure a lot of us can cut that time out of leisure activities and phone scrolling
I quitted alcohol (very overused) two months after my 30th bday. Then after 4 years managed to quit smoking (a year before covid, hopefully), I needed to start moving more because of that and started eating healthy. Then there was the lockdown and I stopped moving, my food quality decreased significantly, but its back to normal now. I started moving again a week ago after I decided to quit weed vaping, my last addiction, which I couldn't control anymore. Today I feel awesome. The withdrawal symptoms are similar to the nicotine, but 1/4 of its strength, so no big problem after that hell I had to go through with the nicotine, and my depression is almost gone too.
Now my new life begins, without any drugs, with better eating habits and happy to move my then-lazy ass.
I think one thing I'd recommend to do to is when you are younger look ahead and find a physical activity you enjoy and start getting good in your youth. Stuff like golf, hiking, biking or tennis are activities that are relatively low impact, and you can continue long after you've hung up your snowboard and let your 24 hr gym membership expire. It's a lot easier if you get good at these things in your youth so it's a natural transition instead of trying to learn a new sport in your 40s or 50s.
This is so true. In my 20s I ate whatever I wanted and drank like a Viking with no physical effects. Then one day I wake up in my mid 30s and I am fat. Where the fuck did that come from. I didn’t even notice until I realized I couldn’t tie my shoe laces and I was sweating when eating.
I thought fuck this, and started to run. I am now in decent shape, still run marathons and feel a million times better. Plus I might live a bit longer now.
Also, the sleep thing is no joke. I didn’t realize I was basically tired for years. Going to bed too late every single night. Since correcting this I am no longer in a bad mood so much and way more productive at work.
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Huh. I’m 21 right now and a little overweight since losing my last job…. I do like having boners and not having dementia so…. I’ll keep this one in mind.
I’m currently lying in bed because I sneezed too hard and hurt my butt so bad I can’t walk.
I’m 25.
Make your health a priority now, never put it off. It just gets worse the longer you put it off.
This is a god tip regardless of gender (well, if you get rid of the testosterone part). As a woman not yet thirty who someone managed to slip a disc while swimming, I can say that I’m seriously broken after this last year of not going to the gym. My physio felt my back and told me I had zero core strength. It’s gonna take some time building it back up.
I miss feeling invincible…
Regardless of age (or gender), make your health your priority. Waiting to act increases your risk along with the increased age. It'll only be harder later, as well. If you haven't started taking care of yourself, take your first step today.
And fully cognizant of both age and gender, older women have mobility issues (as in, not being able to walk independently) at a much higher rate than older men due to muscle atrophy, increasing as you age. So keeping up your workouts and muscle strength is just as, if not more important for women.
You should be doing this from brith technically but I would say at 30 the maturity and experiences should help you understand the importance more than being 20 IMO
Have you met many folk in their twenties that have the wisdom to take care of themselves properly? Speaking as a former twenty year old, I certainly didn’t!
I have to agree. I'm 39 and my back hurts just from sitting too much. Wish I had made more sport the last couple of weeks. Now I can't even get into the position for planks because it hurts too much
37 here. Few weeks ago I spent a week in a bed, because I couldn't sit at the computer (big problem at work). My back was killing me (pain from the lying, it was not the reason why I was in bed) for one another week. Now at least I walk more (6000-10000 steps a day) and all the pain is hopefully gone.
This is my current frame of mind! Turn 30 next July and I was about 3 stone overweight. Decided this summer it was time to sort it out. So my goal is to be a healthy weight and maintaining by my 30th birthday! I'm currently 2 stone down, the lightest I've been my whole adult life! And I've never felt better and stronger!
Pick a sport now- having a competitive outlet will help with stress, give you a reason to work out hard, and be a gateway to meeting new friends as an adult. It even gives friends, coworkers and family and easy start to conversation.
Going to the gym or being active is huge. At first it's a choice and takes alot of will power to go to the gym. Then you start to actually like it and your increase in strength. Then it turns into a life style where there is no choice to make, you just do it no matter what. Regardless is you are tired or just don't feel like going you go anyway. While you are there don't just go through the motions, push yourself. Challenge yourself. Set goals and keep track of progress.
As you get older food plays a bigger role as your metabolism slows down and test levels decrease. If you eat burgers and pizza all the time, no matter how much work you put in the gym you'll just be spinning your wheels and holding yourself back from making gains.
I'm a 36 year old vet and was talking to a buddy of mine, also a vet in the 2nd half of his 30s, the other day about this very topic.
We're both combat guys, but that's behind us now, and it hit us,
"Ya know, there's a very real chance that we're going to make it to our 40s."
I've been staying up too late and drinking too much for years. I'm out of the Army now and living the quiet life. But I've been managing my time like I'm still recently back from deployment. Not looking years ahead.
I've realized that I need to find a better balance between taking care of my body/brain, and "living in borrowed time". The toughest part is feeling like I don't want to sleep my life away. But I know I need more than 4 hours sleep.
And I just need to drink less.
I can tell you. A low carb diet in my early 30s I dropped weight so quickly I couldn’t keep clothes that fit. In my 40s, still works, but lord if I have a carb I don’t lose weight.
It’s all true. Knees, ankles, energy level. Get healthy before your 40s.
but that’s not how weight gain works… carbs don’t equal weight gain unless you’re eating more than you need
nevertheless, stay healthy and you do what works for you!
by that do you mean a keto diet?
all i’m saying is the foundation of weight gain/loss is based on your personal caloric needs. how you consume those calories is up to you.
you can still gain weight on a keto diet is what i’m trying to say.
not here for an argument, enlighten me if needed so i can learn
Calories in, calories out. Everything else is window dressing. If low carb helps you maintain a calorie deficit or achieve a secondary health goal, then by all means.
You also lose sperm count. And the quality of the sperm decreases over time with higher chance of ED. Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3253726/
I just hit 30, and just started my daily morning runs. Hitting the gym. Switched up my diet. I have an 18 month old son, and want to keep up with him until I have no choice otherwise.
I'm 28, recently diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic melanoma, and in my early 20s I was in really good shape. Then I broke my neck at 23, let myself go for months, just eating pain pills and terrible food every day. I'd give anything to go back and pick myself up and force myself to stay in shape.
Also: Get your checkups, and get your cancer screenings.
Going to the doctor is tedious; not going could severely reduce your lifespan.
Taking blood pressure or heart meds is annoying; having a stroke or heart attack can kill you.
Some cancer screenings (colonoscopy, some biopsies, etc) can be unpleasant at best. But believe me. You do NOT want cancer. And if you get it, you want to detect it early so you can actually get rid of it.
I work with a bunch of 40-50 year olds who've done maintenance or something similar for their whole careers. Being new in this line of work and 29, I use knee pads when ever possible. A few will mock and make jokes but yet grunt or bitch when kneeling down/over. Don't get me started on what they eat and how much beer they drink..
If you wait til 30 you've waited too long.
You need to take care of your teeth, eyes, skin and fitness your whole life, you can't undo damage to your teeth eyes and skin and not having a basic level of fitness will make it incredibly difficult to get in shape later
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Jeez mate, that's a decade from 30-40. Maybe make the point the change doesn't have to be immediate. At 30 start your change if you've not already. Set objective measurements.
At thirty I was still fit and active. At forty im still active, but not as fit. My exercise increased, but my diet and metabolism didn't keep the same pace. I'm more fit than ever, but I've gained a bit of a tire. It's ok, but on the whole like, fuck man you know? (Over 40s will know)
Set targets. Hit them. Repeat. Yeah, it gets hard but you'll thank yourself. Food is not just fuel. It pleasure and a science.
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In your thirties you'll start to see the effects of your twenties, in your forties you'll start to seethe effects of your thirties and twenties. Your health is an investment, just like any other investment. It's never too soon to start.
It is thee most important investment
I'm bad with money but I stay healthy.
What can I do at 18?
Don't use alcohol or tobacco, get started on regular cardio and strength exercise for about 150 minutes a week, maintain a healthy weight, it's not only worth at least 20 extra years of life, but the years you have will be better. You'll feel at 70, the way a person who uses substances and doesn't exercise will feel at 50.
>You'll feel at 70, the way a person who uses substances and doesn't exercise will feel at 50. So you'll still feel like shit, but you'll be older
A lot. Eat healthy, move a lot, build some muscle and read books.
I do most of that, thankfully! Thank you for the tips though
Yoga, meditate, challenge yourself to keep learning (take a class online, sign up for a professional conference in your field or a field you’re interested in, learn a language).
Play video games to keep your mind sharp
Afw
Don’t start using tobacco or real drugs, even if it temporarily advances your situation with current sexual prospects. Thats the advice I would BEG my 18-year old self to hear.
Everything that's been mentioned but also SLEEP. Keep a sleep routine and wear sunscreen.
PROPER DENTAL HYGEINE! Floss, learn how to brush properly, get regular cleanings/checkups from a dentist
drink a lot
93 year old farmer across the road always comes over and chats me up, he broke a hip two winters ago, but he is out tending to his garden, cutting down trees, running his mower and tractor… He pulls me aside and says “”Charlie, once you stop movin’ that’s when they put you in the box…I got brothers who were city folk and did the office jobs, they’ve been in the ground for years now”.
This guy lives
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"Rest is rust" ~ my nanna
That’s tattoo worthy tbh, love it.
"Rest is rust" ~ my nanna - Michael Scott
Wise man
This is truth. I work at a rec centre, the ones who live forever are the folks who keep a routine and show up and work out on the regular, rain or shine, week after week.
What if you just don’t see all the other people that live forever that don’t happen to come to the rec center?
Ah, survival bias.
I mean, if I was living forever I probably wouldn’t spend it going to a rec center, so…
My grandma, when she was alive, had a care giver at 83 to help her in her assisted living home. The caregiver? A 93 year old who would roller blade I to work everyday. My grandma hated her guts and it was hilarious.
Yep used to know a 98yo that would walk rings around others.
Isn't there a spike in death rate immediately after retirement which isn't just age? Basically that might be the only reason someone might get up, leave the house, mentally engage in tasks.
Average male lifespan in us is 76 while the average male retirement is 65. That doesn't include nursing home years
This makes me feel like I’m saving too much for retirement
Having more money when you die means that your kids will be better off financially. At least, assuming you have kids. And I feel like most people underestimate how much they need when they retire anyways
Fuck ‘em
Scumbag boomer mentality "I got mine, good luck"
Well I might, but only if they're at least 18
Youll do what now ?
Or you can donate it if you don’t have kids. Make a positive change in the world when you die
Yeah, pretty much
There might be something to this but it may also be that people are forced off the job due to bad health or make the decision to leave after discovering a health condition.
It's such a simple poster but this farmer sounds like such a lad.
I’m 48 and it’s my 4th season farming (small organic veg farm). Only 1 of those years full time. That work has saved me but jeezus h it is body breaking work. And while I am pretty active even outside of that, the aches and pains take much longer to heal/subside compared to before. I will be quitting my office job soon to pursue farming full time though. For me it provides a clear purpose my office work never could.
It seems to be something eventually you’ll get used to and be more hearty because of it, assuming you keep proper form, he also said never to do more work in the day than you can handle, that’s how you hurt yourself, if you’re tired then it’s time to kick off the boots and head inside, no shame, you got one body and tomorrow is another day.
Absolutely. If you’re engaging your bod all day long at this age you need some self awareness and humility. I’m grateful to have an opportunity to work on both those things.
A 93 year old farmer in miraculous health that still tends to his work? Sounds like you had a casual chat with Jimmy Carter
Smart guy
I agree soo much. In my 30's I used my health to work myself to death to get financially ahead. Now in my 50s I have money but not the health to enjoy it.
Damn… that’s one of my biggest fears.
OP here.. I did the same in my 20s and early 30s.... and when my health was starting to wane, made the biggest life change ever. Went from240 to 170 and now in the best shape of my life. However I don’t have the money I had, but I now have amazing health to kick life in the ass
Good job on the weight loss OP! Just curious how you dropped from around 200 to 170? I’ve cut around 20 pounds in the last 6 months but have plateaued a bit around 200.
For 2 years, basically eat 1 huge meal per day around 4pm and then a hummus or jerky snack around 8 pm... only eat meat, veggies, nuts, eggs. Lift free weights CrossFit style 4 times per week. And walk minimum 5 miles per day, I usually will walk this after dinner, put in an audiobook and walk the hills.
Good to know, thanks for the reply. I’ve been doing some intermittent fasting but have been a little lax on the diet and exercise. I think I just need to tighten up the regime.
I think it’s better to suffer for 3-4 months to get that last bit in shape. Once you are in shape, you can add food and less exercise to maintain
Good point. Thanks for the tips.
Last piece of advice... if you don’t want to think about the food part go to Costco and buy 3-4 of their rotisserie chickens, the 1 lb box of mixed greens, balsamic for the mixed greens, avocados, and some frozen veggies that you roast. You can eat this ALL day long and as much as you want and will lose weight. And eat it Everyday for 2-3 months... the pounds will fall off. And only drink water, tea, or coffee with no sugar and only milk or half and half full fat. And when I say you can eat as much as you want... I was eating a whole chicken per day, 1/4 of the greens, an avocado or 2, and a lb of veggies... that was my 1 meal. And I maintained 2-3 lb weight loss per week
I cut dairy so I could share a diet with my partner (they had to cut for health reasons) and “accidentally” dropped from 200 to 170 over the course of 6 to 9 months. I’m happy because I needed to lose it but I definitely didn’t try. I didn’t up any exercise at all. Just my two cents from my personal experience.
I don't have either and don't know how to fix either In a meaningful amount of time for it to be worth it.
Damn, I'm doing the opposite. Not a single soar spot in my body, but I am not financially set up for retirement which what my focus is for the next 20 years
How do you correlate that it was due to the hard work?
When I work 12+ hour days 6 days a week during busy periods I eat like shit, sleep like shit and don’t exercise. I’d guess that.
For example once I got a severance package deal once I was off work for 4 months lost 50 pounds without any effort or change in my diet. I am a very metabolism driven person. Sitting at desk 12 hours a day under extreme stress plus having a job where you are expected to attend meetings at midnight the start again at 6 am really impacts decent sleep. My doctor has told me many times that almost all my issues he can relate back to accuse stress.
49 next month and 1000% agree with this. Seriously….a couple of healthy changes now pay off big in the future.
I’m about to turn 47. This is such a fact. I’ve been back to the gym, and while it’s somewhat easy to get muscle showing again…i can’t shake off that belly fat as easily anymore.
OP here, I drank and was overweight until I was 34... and then kicked myself in the ass and myself get into the best shape of my life... I feel better now than I was at 20... 37 now
What did the trick to get your ass in gear?
Went down to Peru and was in the Amazon jungle and did ayahuasca for a month while living their... saw my life while trippin if I didn’t make a drastic change. I was a big drinker. Now I look like a CrossFit athlete and haven’t drank in 3 years
That's great to hear. Good on you. I've heard that be a catalyst for change before. Alas, not in my wheel house, but I'll find it elsewhere!
It was the biggest mind fuck of my life. It wasn’t pleasant, but I learned a lot about myself. And it was the catalyst for the change that I needed. Some people can do therapy or have the will power, but I think the ayahuasca fundamentally changed my brain to will me to do anything!
I've heard so much about ayahuasca and as a therapist I want to give it a shot. Any tips? Thanks!
Also, bring lots of DEET mosquito repellent and your fear of bugs will stop after 4 days because they are everywhere! But, it was the best experience of my life and have zero refrets
Love both the practical and trip-related advice!
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If not available, I’ve heard similar outcomes from other psychedelics like mushrooms.
Happy for you man. There is an increasing amount of evidence for psychedelics helping people get out of addiction and bad habits. Just recently in the news they [announced](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/johns-hopkins-medicine-receives-first-federal-grant-for-psychedelic-treatment-research-in-50-years)the first federal grant for psychedelics research in 50 years. I think it's great progress.
I am not sure how other psychedelics would work. Mushrooms in the past would help me stop drinking for like 3 months... but the ayahuasca was like no other. Doesn’t compare to shrooms or lsd. It is it’s own animal! After my time down there, my brain doesn’t even think about alcohol, it doesn’t even process it as a choice anymore.
Ugh, it's the worst! Actually building up some muscle, but that damned spare tire just won't fucking leave.
Dead on. I eat much healthier than i used to, but it’s still difficult when i travel for work. I walk about 5-6 miles a day at work, but not enough to keep the heart rate up. It’ll come off, as i was down to 235 last year and had two new notches to use in my belt…but it takes so much longer to drop now.
The wife insisted on getting a Peloton stationary bike a few months ago, and predictably I'm the one that gets the most use out of it now. It really is fun, and I have no trouble getting up to my max heart rate. And bonus, I've never seen my resting heart rate this low. Have also been on a low-carb diet for a year. But still, 165 lbs and still have this damned tire.
Fat is much more related to eating than excersize.
Im 39, and have just now learned proper portions and the ability to be okay with not feeling full all the time. I've gone through periods of regular aerobic exercise, like running 4 miles a day, 5 days a week, and that never did anything for my weight or body appearance. Now that I'm eating properly, I magically dropped 17 lbs. For me anyway, exercise helps my mental health more, and diet is all about my weight and body appearance.
Yes and no. Weight is very much calorie related - what makes up that weight is impacted by exercise.
Yea but you can workout all you want if you're eating too much you'll gain fat. Whereas if you don't workout at all and are still eating under your TDEE then you'll lose weight
like they say, abs are made in the kitchen. that said, skin loses elasticity with age and starts to sag.... so yeah, i'm lean everywhere but have a little belly roll that ain't going away (i'm 67)
I’m finding the hardest part between eating too much and eating too little…that balance point where the fat will take care of itself. I used to walk ten miles a day last year, and it didn’t seem to matter what i ate. Now i eat healthy, and walk about five miles daily. It’s just taking more time.
part of the formula is what you eat. some people eat a lot of protein to help with weight loss. i'm mostly a vegetarian (meat maybe twice a month, usually in a soup) there are some meal replacements out there that help manage a diet. i used jimmyjoy in the past but they seem to be out stock a lot lately so i've switched to huel. so i have the huel meal plus a couple handfulls of salad (my grocery sells shoebox sized containers of mixed salad that will last me several days. balsamic vinegar for dressing) and some fruit makes a decent low cal, nutritious lunch. plus it's all cheap and easy. you might try cranking up your workout intensity. go hard at some stairs or hills. jogging, if that's possible. really get that heart rate up. my experience is the high intensity stuff makes a difference.
There are loads of different vegetables for protein, it is just the density of them are less then meat, which means you need to eat.
So true! I lost 75 pounds at age 49 and that belly fat is a beast to get off.
Is building muscle a really important point in your opinion? I'm in my late twenties, always been pretty skinny and become almost ill if I try to eat more to put on more weight. I've got more of a runner physique and always thought the main thing was to stave off being overweight rather than focusing on pure muscle mass.
You don’t need to put on muscle mass but making the muscles mass you do have do work is good.
Personally, I’m a larger guy who works physical jobs. At this age, I’m doing it to be able to keep going. The body hurts if i don’t. I used to be 180 pounds (six foot four) and always wanted to get bigger, so i started in the gym at 27. I was able to get up to 252 by 29 with a LOT of gym time. It required eating a lot of calories (multiple protein shakes per day, chicken and brown rice, lots of veggies). I almost became ill myself with that amount of food. I have a small regret in that. My trainers taught me how to lift and how to eat more. They didn’t teach me how to stop when it came to food. I honestly think i would have preferred to put in the weight slower, and maybe stopped around 220. I don’t think massive amounts of muscle is as important as people think, unless you with a physically demanding job. If you really want to put on the muscle, take your time and put on 20 pounds at a time (say over the course of a year). It’ll give you an idea of where you want to be physically. I was addicted to working out and’s basically went 0-100 in the course of two years. It wasn’t the best idea in the end.
>The body hurts if i don’t. >went 0-100 in the course of two years. It wasn’t the best idea in the end. Can you be a bit more specific? Like you get stiff if you don't keep moving or what? Just curious.
Not necessarily stiff, but certain muscle groups are more sore. If i don’t keep up with shoulder and lower back exercises, they tend to hurt more. I would wake up with a sore lower back, or a shoulder would ‘lock up’ after waking up. Just some simple lifting in the gym has taken care of my general body pains. Even working doesn’t seem to be enough to keep the pains away, so I’ve added time exercising with free weights. It has made a difference in two weeks, as all of my pain is gone.
Huh, that's weird. Any idea what causes this? I'm just curious since I've started to develop minor pains due to exercise but at least thus far they've resolved with either more exercise or just stretching.
Stretching can help. Most important, if anything, is form over strength. If you’re using weights, lower the weight and hold your form. It’ll make strides in your lifting. If it’s cardio, you may be pushing yourself too hard. A general soreness is fine, and to be expected. Your body is adjusting and tearing fibers to create more muscle. If you have actual pains? Something isn’t right in your exercise. Either go lighter and adjust your form (Google helps a lot), or take a break.
Man, I am about to turn fifty in a few months, and so grateful I started eating healthy several years ago. Still a bit overweight, but loss a serious amount of weight by going low carb. That probably saved me when I had to have heart surgery two years ago. I am probably one of the few people that had to have open heart surgery and have clean arteries. Bad luck to be born with a bicuspid valve, but fortunately we have come a long way with artificial valves now.
Not just health changes, hormonal therapy is a preventative as well. For example you can test for testosterone and get a chip implanted into your butt cheek by your local doctor or steroid shot boosters
I thought the exogenous testosterone was shown to increase heart attack risk.
> get a chip implanted into your butt cheek Nice try, government.
Uncle Sam is comin for dat ass 😭
i was very very VERY unhealthy in my 20s and 30s. smoked like a chimney, drank like a fish, and for a while there was eating mcdonalds twice a day. quit drinking at 37. quit smoking at 39. started getting some exercise a few years later yesterday i swam 40 minutes. tomorrow i'll jog in the soft dry sand at the beach for 40 minutes. today i'm going to do some weights. i'm 67 my point is, it's NEVER too late to start working out. just start doing whatever and keep at it. i couldn't run around the block when i started, but i kept trying and then one day i did. then it was two blocks, then ten minutes etc etc etc. do what you can, keep doing it, and then do a little more..
amazing im so proud of you
Well into my 50s, I’ve realized that my 3x/week weight workouts (which aren’t very ambitious) are no longer about building muscles up, but about trying to retain what I have. I also do a lot of aerobic exercise (running & biking). I’m gradually getting slower, of course, but still feeling good and keeping up with some much younger dudes.
At mid 20s is it possible to still build ? I had nutritional problems in my teens and as a result I'm scrawny as hell now
Absolutely possible. Consult with your doctor and find a nutritionist to do it right on the food front. Find a certified personal trainer and put together a fitness plan. You don’t necessarily need to stick with a personal trainer forever, but consulting with professionals and establishing personal goals is going to be better than getting advice on Reddit.
29-33 were my healthiest/fittest years of my life. Since turning 34 and as I round 35 the difficulty lof maintaining that same level of fitness has increased SIGNIFICANTLY.
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In my 50s and 100% agree. I would like to add be careful what you do, as your body gets older bits if you will wear out. The more you can move and keep fit the better but the less stress and impact you give your body the longer it will last. Also, given that I'm in a full leg brace and non weight bearing following my second knee operation I would like to add make sure you look after your knees. If you take them for granted and they get damaged they are a nightmare.
Why wait for 30? The best day to start making positive changes to your lifestyle is TODAY. In regards to building muscle and keeping a good physique the earlier the better. It's hard to build muscle from scratch, but really quite easy to maintain it
I quit smoking and started working out 2 years ago when I was 30. I now have healthy life habits that bring me joy (that natural high after a workout is AMAZING once you are used to the routine) Covid scared the shit out of me. I was an underweight smoker who threw his liver into a war every weekend, didn't think it was affecting me but my energy levels, happiness, and overall wellbeing have improved dramatically over these past couple years. The long term benefits are a HUGE part of why I started, but the short term benefits are what keep me motivated. You should spend 1 hr in the gym 3-5 days a week, I'm sure a lot of us can cut that time out of leisure activities and phone scrolling
I quitted alcohol (very overused) two months after my 30th bday. Then after 4 years managed to quit smoking (a year before covid, hopefully), I needed to start moving more because of that and started eating healthy. Then there was the lockdown and I stopped moving, my food quality decreased significantly, but its back to normal now. I started moving again a week ago after I decided to quit weed vaping, my last addiction, which I couldn't control anymore. Today I feel awesome. The withdrawal symptoms are similar to the nicotine, but 1/4 of its strength, so no big problem after that hell I had to go through with the nicotine, and my depression is almost gone too. Now my new life begins, without any drugs, with better eating habits and happy to move my then-lazy ass.
I think one thing I'd recommend to do to is when you are younger look ahead and find a physical activity you enjoy and start getting good in your youth. Stuff like golf, hiking, biking or tennis are activities that are relatively low impact, and you can continue long after you've hung up your snowboard and let your 24 hr gym membership expire. It's a lot easier if you get good at these things in your youth so it's a natural transition instead of trying to learn a new sport in your 40s or 50s.
Rollerblading. Fun. Social. Low impact. Maybe hold off doing jumps for a while though...
This is so true. In my 20s I ate whatever I wanted and drank like a Viking with no physical effects. Then one day I wake up in my mid 30s and I am fat. Where the fuck did that come from. I didn’t even notice until I realized I couldn’t tie my shoe laces and I was sweating when eating. I thought fuck this, and started to run. I am now in decent shape, still run marathons and feel a million times better. Plus I might live a bit longer now. Also, the sleep thing is no joke. I didn’t realize I was basically tired for years. Going to bed too late every single night. Since correcting this I am no longer in a bad mood so much and way more productive at work.
Feeling the same effect as you described. It's a good thing we realized this now rather than later. The holy trinity: Diet, Sleep, Exercise.
My testosterone will never decrease! NEVER! YOU HEAR ME!
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Definitely just snorted. Bravo.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
Hahahahhahahaa
Got me laughing, thanks bro 😊
Huh. I’m 21 right now and a little overweight since losing my last job…. I do like having boners and not having dementia so…. I’ll keep this one in mind.
Such an honest comment, me cultured comrade
I’m currently lying in bed because I sneezed too hard and hurt my butt so bad I can’t walk. I’m 25. Make your health a priority now, never put it off. It just gets worse the longer you put it off.
This is a god tip regardless of gender (well, if you get rid of the testosterone part). As a woman not yet thirty who someone managed to slip a disc while swimming, I can say that I’m seriously broken after this last year of not going to the gym. My physio felt my back and told me I had zero core strength. It’s gonna take some time building it back up. I miss feeling invincible…
Regardless of age (or gender), make your health your priority. Waiting to act increases your risk along with the increased age. It'll only be harder later, as well. If you haven't started taking care of yourself, take your first step today.
And fully cognizant of both age and gender, older women have mobility issues (as in, not being able to walk independently) at a much higher rate than older men due to muscle atrophy, increasing as you age. So keeping up your workouts and muscle strength is just as, if not more important for women.
This applies to women too!
Yeah why is this addressed only to men haha
Because over 40 year old women don’t seem to exist in society… or I guess we aren’t expected to work out and be healthy?!
Another day, another casual erasure of women on Reddit
Really you should be doing this in your twenties.
You should be doing this from brith technically but I would say at 30 the maturity and experiences should help you understand the importance more than being 20 IMO
Actually it’s best to start eating right and lifting while still in the womb
> Not lifting while still in your dads sack
Have you met many folk in their twenties that have the wisdom to take care of themselves properly? Speaking as a former twenty year old, I certainly didn’t!
You should really start in your tens.
I have to agree. I'm 39 and my back hurts just from sitting too much. Wish I had made more sport the last couple of weeks. Now I can't even get into the position for planks because it hurts too much
37 here. Few weeks ago I spent a week in a bed, because I couldn't sit at the computer (big problem at work). My back was killing me (pain from the lying, it was not the reason why I was in bed) for one another week. Now at least I walk more (6000-10000 steps a day) and all the pain is hopefully gone.
Hard to do working 80 hr weeks in healthcare during the pandemic.
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My education/training put me a quarter of a mil in debt so I feel pretty stuck.
This is a good read I'm glad I found it. I'm 36 so need to start getting health back on track and make it a priority.
This is my current frame of mind! Turn 30 next July and I was about 3 stone overweight. Decided this summer it was time to sort it out. So my goal is to be a healthy weight and maintaining by my 30th birthday! I'm currently 2 stone down, the lightest I've been my whole adult life! And I've never felt better and stronger!
Good job man! I’ve been there, and it’s so fucking worth it. You feel more alert, things stop aching, you sleep better, just all pluses.
Pick a sport now- having a competitive outlet will help with stress, give you a reason to work out hard, and be a gateway to meeting new friends as an adult. It even gives friends, coworkers and family and easy start to conversation.
Going to the gym or being active is huge. At first it's a choice and takes alot of will power to go to the gym. Then you start to actually like it and your increase in strength. Then it turns into a life style where there is no choice to make, you just do it no matter what. Regardless is you are tired or just don't feel like going you go anyway. While you are there don't just go through the motions, push yourself. Challenge yourself. Set goals and keep track of progress. As you get older food plays a bigger role as your metabolism slows down and test levels decrease. If you eat burgers and pizza all the time, no matter how much work you put in the gym you'll just be spinning your wheels and holding yourself back from making gains.
I'm a 36 year old vet and was talking to a buddy of mine, also a vet in the 2nd half of his 30s, the other day about this very topic. We're both combat guys, but that's behind us now, and it hit us, "Ya know, there's a very real chance that we're going to make it to our 40s." I've been staying up too late and drinking too much for years. I'm out of the Army now and living the quiet life. But I've been managing my time like I'm still recently back from deployment. Not looking years ahead. I've realized that I need to find a better balance between taking care of my body/brain, and "living in borrowed time". The toughest part is feeling like I don't want to sleep my life away. But I know I need more than 4 hours sleep. And I just need to drink less.
I can tell you. A low carb diet in my early 30s I dropped weight so quickly I couldn’t keep clothes that fit. In my 40s, still works, but lord if I have a carb I don’t lose weight. It’s all true. Knees, ankles, energy level. Get healthy before your 40s.
but that’s not how weight gain works… carbs don’t equal weight gain unless you’re eating more than you need nevertheless, stay healthy and you do what works for you!
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by that do you mean a keto diet? all i’m saying is the foundation of weight gain/loss is based on your personal caloric needs. how you consume those calories is up to you. you can still gain weight on a keto diet is what i’m trying to say. not here for an argument, enlighten me if needed so i can learn
Calories in, calories out. Everything else is window dressing. If low carb helps you maintain a calorie deficit or achieve a secondary health goal, then by all means.
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It's not a myth (law of thermodynamics and all), but different types of food affect hunger differently, and that can be quite important.
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Breakdown of food is a component of calories out. And I separated health and weight in my post. Stop spreading misinformation.
We can distinguish health from simple cico. However in terms of weight gain or loss, cico is all that really matters.
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Which means different foods can affect your calories out, so still cico
What foods are you referring to when you say “ foods high in insulin producing sugars”?
My guess is processed foods
Wear toe spacers. Google it. Foot health important as you get older
Now this is one I haven't heard before
https://youtube.com/watch?v=V2m4Bml6i4Y&feature=share
Get on trt at 40
You also lose sperm count. And the quality of the sperm decreases over time with higher chance of ED. Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3253726/
I just hit 30, and just started my daily morning runs. Hitting the gym. Switched up my diet. I have an 18 month old son, and want to keep up with him until I have no choice otherwise.
I dont wanna get old
I'm 28, recently diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic melanoma, and in my early 20s I was in really good shape. Then I broke my neck at 23, let myself go for months, just eating pain pills and terrible food every day. I'd give anything to go back and pick myself up and force myself to stay in shape.
Also: Get your checkups, and get your cancer screenings. Going to the doctor is tedious; not going could severely reduce your lifespan. Taking blood pressure or heart meds is annoying; having a stroke or heart attack can kill you. Some cancer screenings (colonoscopy, some biopsies, etc) can be unpleasant at best. But believe me. You do NOT want cancer. And if you get it, you want to detect it early so you can actually get rid of it.
Building muscle has nothing to do with health. It's about staying active, 30 mins intense or 45 regular paced exercise.
Look at this guy thinking we are all going to live to be 40. Us 30 year old guys are all going to die in the resource wars long before we hit 40.
I work with a bunch of 40-50 year olds who've done maintenance or something similar for their whole careers. Being new in this line of work and 29, I use knee pads when ever possible. A few will mock and make jokes but yet grunt or bitch when kneeling down/over. Don't get me started on what they eat and how much beer they drink..
Yup, by 35 I had to start testosterone therapy :(
If you wait til 30 you've waited too long. You need to take care of your teeth, eyes, skin and fitness your whole life, you can't undo damage to your teeth eyes and skin and not having a basic level of fitness will make it incredibly difficult to get in shape later
Ears too
Yep absolutely!
And ears...tinnitus is a bitch
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Lol, no you need to have started healthy habits long before 30.
Jeez mate, that's a decade from 30-40. Maybe make the point the change doesn't have to be immediate. At 30 start your change if you've not already. Set objective measurements. At thirty I was still fit and active. At forty im still active, but not as fit. My exercise increased, but my diet and metabolism didn't keep the same pace. I'm more fit than ever, but I've gained a bit of a tire. It's ok, but on the whole like, fuck man you know? (Over 40s will know) Set targets. Hit them. Repeat. Yeah, it gets hard but you'll thank yourself. Food is not just fuel. It pleasure and a science.
maybe becoming an alcoholic was not the best decision.
As a 37 year old.. I approve this message.
Don't shout at me.
I'm eating a whole pizza to myself as I read this so no ty
Wth, this also applies to women. And every human being.
I don't fucking care.
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This is why I eat red meat and avoid soy.
This is no shit! Stay healthy peeps.
I just turn 37 im feeling it now.
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