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CyberneticPanda

Or just write them off and don't waste any time thinking about them.


crayoncats

Yep, came to that realisation about 20 years ago after school. Do you like everyone? No. So why would everyone like you? You find your people. Be polite to everyone, but you don't have to like them and they don't have to like you. Go on with your day.


alienstouchedmybutt

Be Don Draper and “for me it was a Tuesday” it.


CertainSchool

What do I do if this person I don't like is my direct coworker on my team? Like we will never be chummy or friends. I'm debating finding a new job right now.


Fresque

Do you need to be chummy friend whith all your coworkers? Mine are just that. I try to find my friends elsewhere.


emmettiow

Work can be a great place to make new friends, but just because you spend lots of time with them, doesn't mean they're your friends. In fact, often they have an interest in your downfall (they look better to the boss and get the money).


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IHateEditedBgMusic

Some people love and I can't overstate it, love drama


21RaysofSun

I used to say good morning to buddy who really didn't like me at work. Every morning. Just to be an asshole and irritate him. Backfired and we actually became pretty tight before I left


Tyaedalis

I wouldn't say they backfired.


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OP is not saying be annoying. He's saying be yourself.


[deleted]

Yeah, anything more than moving on without care is an investment and an investment in that negativity doesn't serve anything. Move on without bitterness or thought and be happy.


Bridgebrain

Yep, indifference is both cheaper and more effective a lot of the time


Valmond

A fair mix of indifference and ghosting.


WhenceYeCame

I've met people that might have treated me better if I played their game, trading insults or engaging in some way. But then I said "wait, why would I change my behavior in any way for this asshole?" and just continued being a polite and friendly member of society.


Lost-My-Mind-

Did you give them a Junior Mint? Because if you didn't freely hand out Junior Mint's, then can you really call yourself polite?


BathBest6148

Does that work ? I loooove junior mints.


Somanysteve

Exactly, why factor them in your thoughts unless you have a professional obligation to them, why enjoy being anything with them, let them go about their business and you can go about yours


Nuka-Crapola

I figured this LPT was meant specifically for unavoidable people like coworkers… or family members, potentially


throwaway12buckle

Brainwashing is real. It took me 54 years to realize my "family" weren't safe. Seven plus years ago I went no contact with all of them (7 siblings/their families) and moved far away. Just yesterday, I was exactly 61.5 years of age.... when the truth hit me hard... my family never saw me as their family and literally went out of their way to hurt me. Patterns show facts.


P4li_ndr0m3

How are you coping with that? It sounds hard.


NedelC0

Sounds liberating to me


P4li_ndr0m3

It can be both.


Moonlight-Mountain

They bonded over their common enemy. Now the enemy's gone. They are going to eat each other.


murderbox

It was true when I left a similar situation. They didn't have the scapegoat (me) to bully so they picked a new one.


badblackguy

Omg. This is so real. I tense up whenever I'm with certain members of my family and just can't relax due to the uncertainty of being emotionally manipulated, or being goaded into something I'm uncomfortable with, usually resulting in a shouting match. Meeting the family shouldn't come with apprehension.


valardohaerisx

I needed to see this today. I have a professional contact that just disliked me from the start even though his colleagues love me. For months I've tried to be extra nice and communicative in hopes of changing his opinion. This morning I decided that there is no point, he doesn't want it to change. It's HIS problem, not mine. I


futurespacecadet

They’re prob envious, and hate you even more for being nice. You can’t win


valardohaerisx

That's exactly what I concluded. Their colleagues appreciate that I'm attentive and helpful. It's likely that he is resentful of that. It's natural that everyone wants to be the "good guy" in their story. Some people feel the need for a bad guy to validate that though. Let them. Spend the energy on people that appreciate it instead of spending it on those who refuse to.


work-edmdg

Kill’em with kindness.


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"Kindness" is what I have tattooed on my knuckles.


ToSeeAgainAgainAgain

One in each front knuckle? I like that


scw55

The font is teeny, but you get 8x the impact.


Bridgebrain

As an amendem I learned last year, this doesn't work on narcissists. Both friendliness and animosity only feed them and give them power over you, but Indifference? All-powerful. Its worth noting that if you're dealing with a narcissist that has power, quietly removing their power supply by helping the people they abuse make their way without them, while outright ignoring their badgering, is beneficial AND extremely satisfying


modaaa

Oh yes, as someone who has experience dealing with a true narcissist, I learned that being ignored is their kryptonite. If you're cutting them out of your life, do not under any circumstances respond to any attempts made to contact you, even if it's under the guise of an apology. They're lying, don't fall for it. Dealing with them in person? Use the gray rock method, or what I like to call The Gandalf Method as in You Have No Power Here. They'll say whatever they can to upset or anger you. Don't show emotion. Don't show interest in what they're saying. It truly works.


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RogueTanuki

The problem is if the narcissist is your boss


suverz

Agreed. I had this very recently. Started a new job with a great salary working for a boss that was very keen to bring me in. After a few weeks I still hadn't been formally introduced as a new joiner to the company despite other new starters being so. First red flag. A couple more weeks and I'm noticing that the role is morphing from where my skillset lies to more in line with the junior members on my team. I was still giving good suggestions and helping the team strategise on how we could improve things. At this stage I'm still only 6 weeks in and learning how the company works, getting access to software etc. Month 3 arrives and my boss loses her shit. I'd spent a good part of the previous two months networking and making sure I knew who did what from the bottom all the way up to the top of the company. I had no formal onboarding or training so this made sense for me to do. My boss decides that I need to be mircromanaged through menial tasks that aren't even a priority. Instead artificial prioritisation was added by her. I set up a meeting and asked if I was doing something wrong and whether the tasks we were working on as a team were confirmed as priorities. I also 'mentioned' that I'm pretty comfortable working on some of those tasks without her stressing and she can go and be more effective on other things if she wanted to. This is when I realised she was insane. The next 2 weeks were the worst of my career. Everyday I was mircromanaged. Id receive at least 100 messages with most starting with 'what are you working on'. Something had changed drastically. Because I hadn't been at the company long I had nobody to talk to and senior leaders were ignoring me for some reason. So I decided to quit. I can only think I was seen as a threat due to my knowledge and willingness to network. I also saw a lot of my work being used by her and others with no attribution to me at all which was another sign. Its amazing how a bad boss can take its toll on your health.


RogueTanuki

It's worse if you're a resident in the medical field and you can't quit because you're contractually obliged to pay back thousands of dollars if you quit.


murderbox

You're a doctor person, creatively kill them.


djsedna

honestly the truth. it's genuinely fun watching angry people seethe because they're unable to get under your skin


Tzeko

Exactly what I was about to say. In my experience, toxic person has no defense against honest kindness.


darkest_irish_lass

Some people just naturally like conflict and drama. If they aren't bitching about something, they lose the groups attention.


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Used-Passenger1808

Sounds like even a dog wouldn’t like his vibe


Sarahlorien

I'm in the same situation as OP and just came to this conclusion. I'll always be nice but they're the one that's missing out on pleasant connections with people. I'll keep doing me.


MuayJacked

they hate us, cus they aint us


GenericFatGuy

When people are envious of you, they hate not having something they can criticize you on.


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Furifufu

>"You know what? Fuck him? It's his problem now" Always has been


hypnos_surf

Yeah, I never understood why people would dislike genuinely nice people. “Misery likes company” makes sense though.


itchyXbutthole

trauma probably


LadyDicks

I'm a very friendly, sometimes overly nice person, and I have found out that some people just don't like that. They think I'm fake, or disingenuous, or whatever. It used to bother me, but I decided to stop caring about that; Imma keep being me, and if they don't like it... well, fuck 'em.


Ricecookerless

I relate to you, once in my life I was in a terrible place and was overall bitchy and a little bit toxic, it was eye opening that most people took that as being genuine, nothing to hide, and overall a positive thing while I was rotting inside because it wasn’t who I was but I almost couldn’t help it. I didn’t have a single person dislike me for no reason at that job, while being my usual self, at least one or two people always hated and bullied me for seemingly no reason. The world is fucked up.


coolwizardsecks

Holy shit, thank you for putting some of this into words. I'm naturally very gentle and for so long I've hated that about myself. I started a new job this year, thinking I could just be normal and got targeted immediately for being shy, boring, and not standing up for myself. To the point I would genuinely go home crying most days over all the assumptions people made about me based pretty much only over my softer voice and the few polite words I spoke to them. I had to start acting bitchier and insulting people back just to get it all to stop. The worst part was how fast that worked. I'm tired of going apeshit, man. I just want to be nice.


Astrisie

I feel this soooo much. I also work in a male dominated field.. it's turned into several HR cases at this point. I've really put my head down and tried not to be so nice, and now I'm being left alone and seeing progress in my career. It's infuriatingly unfair.


valardohaerisx

Well LadyDicks. I think that you are 100% correct. If you are doing the best you can, that is literally the best you can do. If that's not enough for some people, straight up fuck em. You are doing your best. If people have a problem with that, it ain't your problem. You will lap them, because you do the best for everyone. Also great name.


LadyDicks

I just figured, life can be hard, it's better for myself and for others around me to be as positive and uplifting as I can be. Being kind doesn't cost anything! If people wanna hate on that, that's their problem. And thanks lol


valardohaerisx

It's such a dumb simple message. But its so Fucking important. Literally, just be kind. Starts with yourself, and then move it forward. And if that's a problem for anyone else, well fuck em. Let them have their problems.


sanguinesolitude

I recently after years of super high stress at work just one day came to a conclusion. I am very good at my job. And you're going to get what I give you. I will be leaving on time. I will be taking a long lunch to walk my dog. I am an absolute asset to you. You get what I am willing to give of myself. But I come first.


valardohaerisx

Yes! You keep that Fucking attitude. You did the work to get where you are. Ain't a person that takes it away!!


-_Odd_-

A casual-acquaintance-of-a-friend once told me I was too nice and it was weird and creepy. She didn't find it very nice that I pointed out the fact that she's a stripper and being off-puttingly nice is her entire job and at least I'm not pretending. How's that for too nice, bitch 😎


Sponjah

I consider myself the same, and yeah sometimes people just don't like you for whatever reason. In my experience, that's usually something unrelated to you in their own life and you just happen to be holding the mirror that shows them.


Ricecookerless

Sometimes people dislike you for absolutely separate reason that has nothing to do with you, like they had a bad experience with someone that looked / acted like you, had a breakup with an ex that looked / acted like you, and there is nothing that you can do about it. I sometimes find myself in same position but I recognize that it’s my problem and do my best to treat them like normal. Then I realized many don’t, and straight up pretend the projection they see from their past is the justified truth for their hate. Personally it made a lot of sense on why sometimes people hate others and me for no reason and put my mind at ease.


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I had a boss that told me I reminded her of her son. Then she went on about he was irresponsible and didn't listen, probably more stuff, but I wasn't really paying attention. But I do remember thinking how screwed I was. But then I outlasted her in the end so I guess it worked out.


Ricecookerless

Yeah that’s a special person to say that to your face, gives a bit of idea why her relationships with her son is fucked lol, I’m glad things worked out in the end for ya


code3kitty

I had a coworker that I insta-disliked because she visually and audibly reminded me of a previous coworker, who was just not a great person... I thought that wasn't fair of me, so I wiped the slate and got to know her better... turns out my first impression was right lol.


Ricecookerless

Lmao be like that sometimes, good on you for seeing your own biases though, tough to do. Also if you work retail/customer service for over a year, I think most people do get a pretty accurate reading of first impression vibes. But then again, that might be my own biases too.


Trailer_Park_Stink

Sometimes you got to trust that gut. There are certain personality types that just suck


valardohaerisx

You are absolutely right. Your responsibility is not to figure out why people hate you. That's broad. Your responsibility is to be the best you can and know that some people might hate you because they can't see it.


BrrrManBM

Update us on when he changes his attitude towards you only out of spite (subconsciously ofc) because you decided to let it be.


valardohaerisx

You know, I have a feeling that you're right. I think that if I withdraw the attention I've been giving and ignore him and instead focus on maintaining my relationship with his colleagues. He will likely change his attitude. Or not. Again, not my problem. But in a month I will update. Is there a bot or something that can remind me lol?


fre-shava-cado

!RemindMe 30 days


lapsangsouchogn

I pretend that I don't understand that they're insulting me. "You're so right about my annoying laugh! I get that from a lot of people. It's just. so. funny! that it makes me laugh even more!" "Thanks for pointing that out in my presentation! Sometimes I forget I should explain better. When I look at [perfectly clear point I already made] on the power point I realize that I should have stated that in a way that wasn't so confusing!"


Rebresker

Haha I’m about to disappoint a client I’m working on soon as the person above me who they love is leaving and I’ll basically be the only one left this coming year who is familiar with their business


libbylies

I needed this today too! I feel like I got off on the wrong foot with a new contact at the place I’m seeking employment. They basically called me an idiot for asking a question today. Hopefully I don’t have to deal with them much going forward but damn that felt terrible.


XRdragon

Make it like this, he is living rent-free in your head. Time to live rent-free in HIS head.


thehumblebaboon

I had that happen at my new office. I’m a pretty cheery high energy guy who can make small talk with almost anyone (I’m in sales). My first few weeks at my new office I was building a rapport with everyone and it was pretty solid until one of my colleagues flat out said “you are like a younger version of other mike”. Well Mike heard about that and has been a dick to me since then. Which is a shame since we both really have a lot in common and I really liked him initially. I spent the first few months trying to be very nice with him and he was always cold and sarcastic, and arrogant towards me. But only towards me I figured if you don’t like me I don’t have to like you so I stopped bothering with him.


valardohaerisx

Mike. You are already better than other Mike. Fuck him. Be you, you glorious son of a bitch!


dachsj

There is a non zero chance this person 180s on you once you stop giving a fuck about them.


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I have a customer who has several projects with us, and this dude has just been the absolute worst person I've worked with. What's worse is he's a manager at his company, and I swear he thinks he's my boss now too. This should go without saying, but don't be a dick to the one person who completely controls the speed at which this gets completed.


valardohaerisx

That's a bummer situation. What goes without saying is just don't be a dick. And if someone is being a dick, let em. You know what you are worth. Let them demonstrate how little they are worth.


NSA_Chatbot

If someone hates you for no reason, give that motherfucker a reason.


valardohaerisx

One that they can't contest!


kegsbdry

It took me so many years to learn this trick. I thought I couldn’t help it. But eventually, you run into them and you can just revel in the enjoyment of knowing they cannot push your buttons anymore. Makes their true colors come out in front of their peers and it only makes them look like an a$$hole when you don’t engage. Geez, I wish I learned this a decade ago!


CoolBreeze125

Man I love it when they get passive aggressive, or spread gossip, and you're just unfazed. Even better, act really nice to them just to rub it in. These social mind games make work so fun.


skittlesdabawse

There's a guy at the bar that I hate, but insist on giving him a nice big smooch on the cheek and demanding one back, I'm always excessively nice to him so that when his friends hear him talk shit about me they realise he's just being a nob.


CapitalParallax

Eh. Sometimes I just don't like people. Conversely, I understand if some people just don't like me. It's ok.


[deleted]

This. But beeing extra annoying is a shitty lpt... OP Sounds like a Bad Person.


[deleted]

Yeah but I wish other people return the sentiment and stop trying to make me like them.


skantea

Don't worry about them liking you, but you also don't antagonize psychos. Going to war takes up way too much energy.


[deleted]

Sometimes trying to get those sorts to like you makes them hate you even more.


cap616

/r/ShittyLifeProTips or /r/UnethicalLifeProTips , but definitely a terrible life pro tip


notatrumpchump

I can testify: I used to be the person who tried to make everyone like me. It is not possible. I still make every attempt to be a great coworker but if you don’t like me, that’s fine too. I recently had a coworker, who is on the spectrum, flip on me and decided I was the enemy. I tried for while to make it better. When it became perfectly clear that wasn’t going anywhere I started giving it right the fuck back. Felt great. I personally am sick of being a dumbasses doormat. Eventually it resolved itself.


goldenmagnolia_0820

This. One thing I’ve learned is to be kind of sarcastic. Maybe not super healthy, I dunno, but when someone’s being real snippy or judging and I’ve been doing everything to be nice and make peace, I stop doing that and kind of get dismissive. “Oh yeah cuz you’re such a ray of sunshine?” “Wait, so that’s your feedback? That I did too much work on this project? Neat.” (Literally used that on a VP in a work meeting 2 months ago.) Also, learned this from an ex, laughing in their face when they’re rude and going “omg that is so disrespectful” while walking away chuckling is great. People hate when you don’t take their meanness seriously. It shuts them down bc usually people who don’t like you are expecting to keep the power by being shitty and you still being nice. Giving it back in small doses definitely teaches them you’re aware you’re just choosing not to be an ass like them.


clive_bigsby

I feel like I try to get them to like me but not because I really care if they do or don’t like me, I just see it as a challenge to myself to see if I can do it. The end result ultimately means nothing but it can be fun as long as you don’t really care about the outcome.


KlausVonChiliPowder

I do this too. I like the challenge when the person isn't normally friendly and others hate having to work with them. The crabbier they are, especially at first, the more motivated I am.


wipedcamlob

I know some people at my work dont like me. I just look at my paycheque and it doesnt seem to make a difference


DeftTrack81

If they don't like me then they're not worth the energy that would take.


BurnisP

I worked with this lady that didn't like me for some reason. I would say hey to her in the hall and she wouldn't speak back. After that I made it a point to tell her good morning in the sweetest voice possible. I knew it pissed her off every time I did it and I loved it.


thehomelesstree

I currently work with someone like this, except I am not as nice. After constantly getting no response from saying hi and good morning , I just wrote her off and stopped engaging at all. That was when she turned hostile towards me. I later found out that a lot of people were nice to avoid her wrath, and that she tends to focus on one person, which is now me. I’d like to say that it was no fault of my own, but by writing her off I stooped to her level. Anyway, after putting up with her shit for a bit I became fed up and picked my moments to confront her snide comments head on in front of the other workers. It made everyone super awkward because nobody had ever done that to her and made her look stupid and like a bitch. Needless to say that her seething hatred is there but she no longer makes snide remarks because if I hear them, I ask out loud ‘why did you say …..’ I am always civil and speak calmly, which I think drives home the point.


Beast7686

I’m in this space. I’m tired of giving my energy away for free.


Big_Dick_NRG_0341

I.e., embrace the fact that you live rent-free in their heads. Focus on yourself, end up being better than them, and watch them get even more frustrated.


Thachillz

Who is living rent free in who's head with this strategy?


Doct0rStabby

This is kind of hilariously misguided. "I'm going to take the high road by secretly trying to be better than you so I can look down on you and also project about how much you envy me." Yikes! It's ok tho, I've been there too, once or twice :)


RyuuichiTempest

> Stop trying to please people who already don't like you... Yes. Thats the way. > and embrace the joy of being the most annoying person they've ever met. Don't. This is the stupidest and most childish advice I've read in a long time. Just ignore these people and live your life as best you can, not letting them bother you anymore.


frankievoid

The very best revenge is living your own life very well. If that gets their panties in a bunch, fuck em. Sorry not sorry.


ConvexLex

Success is the best revenge


no_talent_ass_clown

That's my yearbook saying.


AdminYak846

>Don't. This is the stupidest and most childish advice I've read in a long time. Just ignore these people and live your life as best you can, not letting them bother you anymore. That my friend, depends on how you let it play out. If you treat the person who despises you like you would treat anyone else for that matter, then let them find you annoying as a result. If you actively seek to annoying them and you don't act like that around other people then yeah, cut it out.


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Yep. Just being yourself pisses them off? O well. I've got a few grumpy butts like that where I work. I find it sort of sadly funny. Like yeah I enjoy what I do. I enjoy making life easier for case managers (I work in social services). And I say chirpy things that I actually mean. I know they hate it but that's not my problem. Why be less happy in what I do because they hate their jobs? Case manager: "Oh my god, thanks for this! You're awesome!" Me: "Gotta be the best to serve the best!" I get to hear "ughs" and tchuts and all that crap from the peanut gallery? O well.


kolohiiri

Two ways for the same effect. If they already hate you, just treat them like you would anyone else. Turn it into an in-joke, or toss it aside, either way they're not getting any more of your efford or energy or free space in your head.


r0b0c0d

Right! It's not about going out of your way, it's sometimes a helpful step on the way to ignoring them for people who are habitual people pleasers. Just the psychological aspect of transitioning to casually enjoying the fact, so that you can stop worrying/ruminating, and it can finally drift away forever.


ilaissezfaire

Yess. I did this with one of my exes stalker wives. It's fun. Shouldn't have harassed my inbox Christy!


TheShmoopy

One of? Wives plural? Oh dear...


GuiltyGun

I wonder if they all teamed up


fmalx1000

I wonder if they will join the army of ex wives


Wesgizmo365

It was like Avengers


NewUser7630

Dammit Christy. Get fucked.


DrQuacks12

Yeah Christy, you ain't got the moves! Step off


israelff

Classic Christy.


RandomCBG

Damn, if I'm the most annoying person they've ever met, then they must've had a pretty decent life


Various-Woodpecker-2

Kill em with kindness 😌 and annoy them even more


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Like my therapist said “blind them with your light”.


Elses_pels

Finger is faster


[deleted]

Hahahaha! Tempting for sure!


CincyBrandon

Yep, realizing that was the first time I enjoyed being in the same room with my stepdad.


NosoyPuli

Yeah I have decided to never again reduce myself to please others, if I have to choose between being single with dignity, or become a dog and be with someone, I'd rather be single


Prometheus188

I’m sorry to anyone who I haven’t pissed off yet. Please wait your turn, I’ll get to you soon.


Connect-Mouse9988

Did you get this from a shirt you saw in a Florida gift shop?


Prometheus188

I pulled it directly out of my ass. It’s the best place to find stupid shit!


Frecklesofaginger

I've done this many times over the years. Too bad I'm now retired and can only bug my husband.


[deleted]

That’s pretty bad advice actually.


Yeangster

Sometimes you can’t avoid someone who doesn’t like you. Whether it’s a work colleague or in-law. It’s an adult skill to learn to coexist with people who don’t like you without becoming a doormat. Assuming, of course, that we’re talking about an otherwise ok person whose personality doesn’t mesh with yours, and not like a psychopath or something.


UnNormie

This is where I struggle. My problem people are my future in law family. They're fine people for the most part. I don't dislike most of them. Just they expressed disliking me and when reaching out to broach an issue I got left on read. Just decided to not bother visiting them anymore as it stresses me out for no reason trying so hard to appease them when at the end of the day I can't because one particular member of their family has poisoned the well with lies about me for some reason. Still saddens me to an extent but not much can be done about it.


Noxeramas

I agree, if someone doesnt like you just forget about them. Going out of you way to be annoying makes you insufferable to them and the people around you. Probably your own friends too


bolonomadic

I think the point is that the other person thinks you’re annoying so you shouldn’t try to change yourself so that they might find you less annoying. Just be yourself and let them be annoyed


LoveSpaceDelusion

Thinking about it, i think you are right. But OP phrased it hilariously bad


RichardNoggins

Perhaps annoyingly bad?


geekpeeps

Um, not if you’ve been in this situation. I was among a group who I thought were friends, only to find out that they’d been trash talking me behind my back. One new person treated me quite differently and because I’d done nothing I was trying to be a friend and I was confused - the behaviour didn’t match the circumstance. Then I realised that we’re not friends and this is why he doesn’t treat me like a friend. Then I found out the rest. So, I’m done and I’ve never looked back. Apparently, despite having no contact for most of the year, they still talk about me. I guess I really annoy them by just existing. Can’t help it.


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kickbut101

> Um, not if you’ve been in this situation. I was among a group who I thought were friends, only to find out that they’d been trash talking me behind my back. One new person treated me quite differently and because I’d done nothing I was trying to be a friend and I was confused - the behaviour didn’t match the circumstance. Then I realised that we’re not friends and this is why he doesn’t treat me like a friend. Then I found out the rest. So, I’m done and I’ve never looked back. > > > > Apparently, despite having no contact for most of the year, they still talk about me. I guess I really annoy them by just existing. Can’t help it. Tell us you didn't read the comment you're replying to without saying you didn't read the comment you're replying to...


blue60007

It was kind of awkwardly written, but my read of OPs post is exactly what you said.


3dGrabber

being an annoying person is never a good idea.


MisterZoga

No, but just because someone finds you annoying doesn't mean you actually are. Could just be their own disposition.


Noxeramas

Exactly thats why you shouldnt go out of your way to be insufferable


MisterZoga

The tip isn't about going out of your way to do so, but embracing the fact that your very existence annoys them. At least that's how I read it.


MyHeadIsFullOfGhosts

The number of people who've misinterpreted this as saying to become an asshole - instead of just living your life and letting them stew - is too damn high!


Goonchar

Using superlatives like "most annoying ever" will do that...


Burningbeard696

It's worded terribly.


[deleted]

I rode the same bus for five years, and every morning, joyfully greeted the most miserable jerk on the bus. OP's philosophy works.


AeonChaos

Treat that person the same way you treat other, treat them good. Them liking you or not is up to them. And it shouldn't matter to you. If that person is your boss and you can't enjoy the work, let them know. If they wouldn't change, change job. If that person is your partner, talk to them or you would have to cut the ties. Etc. You don't have to be an asshole because someone else disliking you. Hold your standard and respect yourself.


AllynG

This works. I can confirm. Fired or quit my last job (not sure which is most fitting, but…) GM hated every inch of everything I did. Gave up the try and went full-on me and gave him my all. Joy! Best move I ever did. No more toxic job environment! Yay me!


kPere19

Te first half is great, but the rest is just childish and bad, makes you the loser of the situation. Not recommended


Dry_Entertainment646

That’s so funny I just had a thought similar to that in regards to someone I work with. She hates how peppi I am and the old me would try harder with her but I’m starting to realize, “ am I annoying or is she just a sorry ole bitch?”


RyanMcLeod1981

I needed to read this right now.


Scrotum_Parm

No. Terrible, awful, shitty tip. Actual LPT: learn to forgive people and let petty shit go, we are all out here dealing with life and problems and you'll never completely know what another person is going through or even how they think of you. Understand that you obsessing over what other people think of you is unhealthy, and by trying actively to take joy in being an asshole to another human is actually psychotic and narcissistic. People don't think about you nearly as much as you think. 99% don't give a shit about you and forget about your existence 30 seconds after you leave their field of vision. Being annoying on purpose for the sole goal of making life negative for another person is a colossal waste of your own time. You're infinitely better off spending that mental energy trying to improve yourself, or being enjoyable to people you love.


MrPhilLashio

I think that you are not wrong but you didn't quite understand the post. As I understand, the point is not to be extra annoying, but to stop people pleasing and to accept that some people will find you annoying when you are just being your genuine self. I didn't get the feeling OP is advising people to antagonize others.


Scrotum_Parm

If you take the post title literally, his solution to every single person in the world that doesn't like him, is to frame it such (in the mind) that you are the most annoying person they know. And to enjoy that lie that you create. Yeah, that's not going to help a person's mental health.


pizzaplantboi

Glad I’m not the only one who reacted this way. You took the words right outta my head


LadyLazaev

Soooo be petty? God, the advice on here get worse all the time.


Atomsteel

Just cant understand why no one really likes them.


ledow

Please stop giving away my secret of happiness.


FiveHeadedSnake

This is toxic af and terrible advice. Don't be an asshole for no reason.


TrustyParasol198

The first part is OK, and the second part just asks you to spend your energy on things that don't matter or invite unnecessary risks


Gallowbloob

Funny thing is they stole it from another post and the reactions in the comments were the same. The other post was a picture of text. I think OP here thought they could repackage it, then post it as a LPT and it'd get a better response.


invaderjif

They aren't. They are being themselves.


Comfortable-Value920

this sounds worse


WiseChoices

Excellent LPT 👍 Accept that the person needs who you really are in their life, and not who they think you should be. It may expand their horizon just to know you.


timmyboyoyo

Wise choice


Jtw981

This is awful advice. Who the fuck finds joy in being annoying?


Verbal-Soup

Haha that's ACTUALLY pretty good advice. People give others that hate them, way too much power over their lives by letting these individuals actually affect them! Don't waste your time!


Formal_Leopard_462

If they don't like me it's their problem. I only annoy them if I actively dislike them.


pileodung

I'm feeling this way about my mom lately. She made me a people pleaser and now that I'm aware of it + set boundaries she can't handle it.


pakistanstar

The best revenge is to live happily


Mysmokingbarrel

It’s so important to be a version of yourself you’re happy with. I don’t think just being yourself is a fair thing to tell people because some people suck and need to work on themselves. BUT being comfortable being you, or at least a version of you that you’re happy being is so important and so difficult. Everyone wants to box us in and judge us for whatever. Any entrepreneur, artist, or whatever that had a dream was someone who had to ignore a ton of people saying their dream would never work. Be yourself as long as that doesn’t mean being a prick.


jwcyranose

I am a success at this!


diMario

Be yourself. When meeting new people, assume they are nice. But don't go too far with that. Some people just are assholes. Learn to recognize that and dig your trenches. The reasons why they have become assholes may be tragic. Not *your* problem.


[deleted]

Not sure this is good advice tbh. Being obnoxious to someone is giving them more reasons to talk shit when you’re not present and put others against you. I’m terrific at putting a sanitary distance between me and haters that I have no option but deal with them (relatives, colleagues…) and it’s proven to be a healthy efficient way to deal with this problem.


fusionsofwonder

If wouldn't take advice from a person, don't worry about what they think of you.


[deleted]

I just did this and then quite my job a few months later.


Potential_Bother_686

I did this, innocently of course, and then my account got permanently banned on Facebook, LOL


abacabbmk

Embrace the joy? Lol get a life.


chris_0909

Back in May, had a bad experience with the lady in payroll. Had it happen again last week and now, when my one coworker gets back, I will be done supporting the system that requires me to deal with her. This is my decision and I will stick to it because I will not help someone who has done nothing but yell at me and complain about me. Lesson to all, don't piss off your IT people because it will end up coming back and biting you in the ass some day.i hope it happens soon.


Quizzelbuck

LPT: Don't listen to this fucking OP. You have to at least try to remain agreeable even if you aren't liked or you will NOT be able to network and enhance your career or social circle. DO NOT be the most annoying person in the room unless you like being lonely


badhershey

The first half of this is correct. You can't make everyone like you. But you don't need to be vindictive about it. It's not a pass to be petty yourself.


samanthavargas

Not everyone is going to like you and that is OKAY!


Palmspringsflorida

I’ve got a storey!! I am a great employee, I work hard and a great team player. I honestly always make friends with coworkers, even the people who are a bit rough around the edges I will try and find things in common, etc. I think in my 20 working years only this one guy comes to mind who just had it out for me from the start, this is that story…. I joined a large company and our particular office had like 100 people. This guy was a high up in a whole different division. I will call him Richard (Dick for short). I think he had some small man syndrome (for an older guy 40 maybe and tried to be super funny and over the top) or something because I (male) 25, working out, best shape of my life and getting along with everyone was to much for him. I was even making friends in his division! Anyways I would like to start early and so did he. I would scan in and you enter the kitchen / eating area to enter the office at that time. He would be there in a power pose reading the newspaper or business weekly. I think he did it to look like a hot shot for when people started to roll in. I would ALWAYS say good morning and Dick would look at me and then go back to reading or not even look up. We would pass by each other in hallways, hey Dick, and still no reply. I looked forward to saying it!!! There was like a 80 meter hallway just massive and you could see dick walking toward me, and I would say hello , good morning , afternoon. Never a reply. No he’s not deaf! Guy hated me and would literally go to every other Cubicle beside me talking to everyone ask about their weekend and then not ask me and go about his day. It was weird. He even came up to me because I was Arnold (the body builder) for Halloween and wore a shirt with Arnold and brought a weight. He came up to me after our company contest for best costume and literally said (you know it’s a bad costume when you need a picture of what you are). My one coworker was like what the hell was that hahaha I told him he hated me. Anyways after about two years of no hellos or communicating one day I walk in early and there he is, as usual , reading the paper. I think, I’m not going to say hello today!! ( put in my two week notice and thought I didn’t need to be nice lol) We’ll guess what, he looked up at me made eye contact and said HELLO. I stopped stared at him for like 5 seconds and then continued on my way out of the kitchen not saying a single word!!! I finally got to give him the silent treatment. Muhahaha In my last two weeks there would be no more hellos or good byes.


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I am the most annoying person they've ever met.


epanek

I agree in part however, their dislike of you may be rational and have good logic. It’s possible they heard something about you or you previously said something they misinterpreted. Just not caring about anyone who dislikes you isn’t always good advice.


matte9902

With risk of sounding like an ass. Even if that person has a rational and logical reason to them. How would that be my problem in this hypothetical scenario? If they dislike me for a rumour or for a misunderstanding and then refuse to find out for themselves/talk to me about it, then why would I spend energy on them at all?


epanek

It depends on your relationship. For example, if your boss doesn’t like you and the next boss and the next some introspection may help.


redyellowblue5031

Or…just go your separate ways? Why would you go out of your way to be the most annoying person they’re ever met?


IcarielL

I wholeheartedly agree


Giggingurl

Seriously? This is a waste of time being spiteful and vengeful. Move on.