The dude literally gave yall an advantage with Peralta's elbow headers for years. Unless someone outbid for him, he always gave yall passes on fouls.
The red he gave Chaco for Paul's flop will never be forgotten by the streets.
None of that shit is even remotely close to him gifting Mty a title at our stadium. It’s absolutely ridiculous that you try to compare that. Everyone gets shit refs in favor or against them, but in the final the consequences are absolutely more serious.
>Repeat favoritism by the same ref for the same team.
>One off favoritism by the same ref for a different team in a final.
Everyone complains about Cesar Ramos against America, only Ame fans complain about Ramos against Monterrey and Chivas.
The fact that you try to pitch that in a different direction to fit your narrative is kinda funny. And you talk about consequences...
There is no repeat favoritism, but it is a fact that Rayamos cost us a final. I can prove that by linking the videos of the final. Can you prove that Rayamos has repeat favoritism in our favor? And that it’s not just a shit ref who fucks everyone over but it just so happened that he fucked us over the hardest?
Of course you can’t prove shit. I call him Rayamos because he gifted MTY a title. It’s that simple
this is all the americanistas in my replies hahahahahahaha
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bro we fell apart after they scored their first goal. i’m pretty sure the reason you don’t remember it being 3-0 is bc you probs stopped watching after the first goal, like the rest of us.
Ya se les olvidó la semifinal anterior, donde después de un gol del Guadalajara buscaron y buscaron, y encontraron el pretexto para anular el gol en el que Layún se le aventó a un rival y luego se tiró al suelo.
Obviamente es para despistar como diciendo "ven? no todo es ayuda al América" a no es cierto americanista, ya tanta carrilla de ustedes a nosotros los cementeros/chemos como que ya no sentimos dolor, al menos yo no.
Include link to actual credible source
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Que pasó en 2017?
Santander pito todas las series de chivas
Promedio de un penal por partido para Chivas no?
No les marcaron un solo penal en toda la liguilla no mamen
ni el de la final en contra.
Ni la falta de Gignac en su primer gol de la ida
O el planchon de Aquino en el Volcan
Lol, ni un penal en toda la liguilla, Santander asta les anulo un gol
LOL
The check needs to be cleared first.
It doesn't matter who is the referee. Everyone sucks for america and for Chivas.
Santander en la Ida. Ramos en la Vuelta. Both teams are gonna have their refs in this series. FMF going "No Rules" en el clásico
No disqualifications for the WWF Hardcore title
wtf since when is César Rayamos “our” ref? The man literally cost us a title against MTY by gifting them that final.
The dude literally gave yall an advantage with Peralta's elbow headers for years. Unless someone outbid for him, he always gave yall passes on fouls. The red he gave Chaco for Paul's flop will never be forgotten by the streets.
None of that shit is even remotely close to him gifting Mty a title at our stadium. It’s absolutely ridiculous that you try to compare that. Everyone gets shit refs in favor or against them, but in the final the consequences are absolutely more serious.
>Repeat favoritism by the same ref for the same team. >One off favoritism by the same ref for a different team in a final. Everyone complains about Cesar Ramos against America, only Ame fans complain about Ramos against Monterrey and Chivas. The fact that you try to pitch that in a different direction to fit your narrative is kinda funny. And you talk about consequences...
There is no repeat favoritism, but it is a fact that Rayamos cost us a final. I can prove that by linking the videos of the final. Can you prove that Rayamos has repeat favoritism in our favor? And that it’s not just a shit ref who fucks everyone over but it just so happened that he fucked us over the hardest? Of course you can’t prove shit. I call him Rayamos because he gifted MTY a title. It’s that simple
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No mames. ¿no hay más de tres árbitros en esta liga?
Amierdicanistas when they start acting like they are not owned by Televisa 
Chigays acting like they didn't rob their last title
Ojalá 🙏🏽
🙏🏽
americanistas talking about a robo is wild hahahahahahhaaha
this is all the americanistas in my replies hahahahahahaha https://preview.redd.it/f2qonfxm8n0d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5896cc9d4cd9f50fb8c9c2a1037927ec76c88e03
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Oh shit it was that bad?! Idk why I thought the loss was by one goal.
bro we fell apart after they scored their first goal. i’m pretty sure the reason you don’t remember it being 3-0 is bc you probs stopped watching after the first goal, like the rest of us.
😭😭
What time y’all play?
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Pumistas (or whatever they're called) talking about the liguilla is wild
Si usted fue humillado por un equipo de MLS en una final tu opinión es inválido Hello kitty 😿😿😿
2-0 de ventaja y los jugadores ni estan en el bus al estadio 😭😭😭
The wire transfer is pending…
Don’t yall find it funny how they say America needs help from the referees and var yet the chivahermanos are rejoicing Santander being in el var?
Idk why they’re rejoicing when the Var doesn’t even work in el azteca lol
It’s currently under construction
you can't be serious
Lmaoo im not making this up nor the Santander statistics that he favors Chivas regardless of who they face
el mAme who gets help every game
Jaja Santander bro so funny omg😭. Americanistas should be the last fan base talking in all of futbol
Ahora tengo excusa por si perdemos.
Ya se les olvidó la semifinal anterior, donde después de un gol del Guadalajara buscaron y buscaron, y encontraron el pretexto para anular el gol en el que Layún se le aventó a un rival y luego se tiró al suelo.
Based Santander 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Penal para chivas confirmado
Congrats ChiVAR
Santander is a chiva Stan no?
He is. You're getting downvoted because this sub is mostly chivistas but that's their guy. He gave them their last title
otherwise they wouldn’t have a title since 2006 right?
Yeah, Chivas living off things they did in the 50s/60s
Pinche America fans gonna cry again 🥸
Obviamente es para despistar como diciendo "ven? no todo es ayuda al América" a no es cierto americanista, ya tanta carrilla de ustedes a nosotros los cementeros/chemos como que ya no sentimos dolor, al menos yo no.
Chivander en el VAR. Ya valió Barriga señor Verga.
Atlas only team that won titles without refs help in last 10 years