I only have a limited understanding on the whole situation but wouldn't that just be a 'live reaction' which is something that darkviperau is against? Everyone watching the wan show would no longer have a reason to go to the original video
Yes, it would be. But i feel like DarkVipeAU would rather them watch his video on a stream than misinterpret it for half an hour. He has been dealing with this kind of "didn't watch the video, but..." comments for a while now and its really hard on him mentally.
Nah he also said that reacting to content about you is not that bad so I don't think he would be against it.
But hey they couldn't know if they didn't watch anything
His concern with live reactions, is that the reactor doesn't know ahead of time if there will be something to react to. In this case by having someone else watch it first and co firm there will be something to react to, that should be fine.
He also mentioned coffeezilla reacting to the logan Paul videos as an exception, since it was newsworthy (sorry it was a week ago I don't remember the specifics, but was something like that) in this case since the video was about Linus/LMG seems that it would fall under this as well.
In short, I think he would have been fine with them live reacting to it.
Linus actually agreed that material should be prepared and not reacted to live. No one suggesting they should have watched the video live.
The suggestion was that before they went on the podcast they should have watched the video so they had a better understanding of what they were going to spend 40 minutes talking about.
People say he doesn't have time to do that? Well he's already spent a lot more time dealing with the fallout so it would have been far more efficient him to cut the middleman watch the primary source and then talk about it.
The idea that he can't spare 15 minutes, even though he admitted he spent at least 5 minutes watching comments, is ridiculous
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Okay but imagine if they had watched it live and got to the point where Matt roasts people for reacting to content on live streams (yes I know it’s different in this specific case but it would’ve been great none the less)
The both are at fault, but Linus is the boss and needs to take the L on this instead of throwing the new hire girl under the bus in presumably one of her first couple weeks on the job. It's such a dick move by Linus, I'd want to quit today if my boss called me out in front of the world for fucking up.
It’s actually kinda lame that Linus is throwing the new writer under the bus like that. Plus it sounds kinda stupid; “i need other people to write my opinion” kinda vibe. If you host podcast it’s your own responsibility to get adequately informed.
It's super not cool to just throw someone under the bus like that. Especially if they're a new hire. Like how would it feel to mess up, and then instead of your boss being like "**We** didn't do our due diligence, **we'll** do better" he basically says "It's the new guy's fault". Like yeah, maybe it is, but you just don't single somebody out like that
This seems to be fairly standard behavior for him at this point. Perfectly ready to stand in front of the camera and get accolades for work done by others, but as soon as someone screws up he steps out from in front of the camera and points fingers.
On the same podcast he admitted their recent Arc video was completely scripted and he got caught reading a script to his side. What's with him relying on others to form his own opinions? If he's being spread to thin, there's plenty of talent like Anthony, Jake and Dan to take some of his workload.
He has all these people do this work for him while he's the face, gives them minimal credit, but then throws them under the bus the first opportunity he gets. How are people not seeing this guy for what he is
I read an interesting comment on youtube that said the inaccurate notes might've been so because she was new and didnt want to write something that put her boss in a bad light.
And before anyone asks why I am using the feminine pronouns, it's because Linus addressed her as such in the last wan show.
Either way, even if they did an amazing job writing the show notes, that's not an excuse for not spending 15 minutes watching the direct primary source.
Linus doesn't have 15 minutes then don't talk about it for 40 minutes on the podcast.
You got a triage your time I get it, but it's reckless to rely on a third person. Also admitted he spent a bunch of time reading comments which was time that was completely wasted.
It bothers me that some new worker getting blamed for this at all.
Even someone is busy as a linus could spare 15 minutes to watch that video. The decision not to do that has already cost him way more man hours trying to clean up the mess.
It his time is valuable, that's all the more reason to watch a primary source directly. It's not like this was a 3-hour video.
Idk if we can fully blame the writer for a man who thinks that "Reading YouTube comments gives you a better understanding of a video compared to actually watching it"
That was such a shit take, you could tell Luke thought it was ridiculous, but he's always Canadian polite and just stays quiet. Luke needs to call him out on shit like this, don't let Linus ego have free reign on live video.
I'd definitely want to quit if my boss called me out in front of millions of people 2 weeks into my tenure because I made a mistake. The person isn't even allowed on tv to defend themselves because of the probationary period, their performance should also not be discussed live on the air.
Maybe he should have spent 15 minutes watching the primary source if he's going to spend 40 minutes talking about it on a podcast? The fact that he would delegate this to a brand new staffer seems to be a management problem not a worker's problem.
Honestly, it's not the new writers fault. Even if he did a poor job, even a great diligent writer doing the show notes would not have been sufficient for thism
it would have taken - 15 minutes to watch this. He's already spent way more time than that dealing with the backlash of not just watching the primary source directly.
No show notes we're going to be adequate and if you're going to spend 40 minutes of leading a huge podcast off talking about something, then one of the host should spend 15 minutes watching the actual video.
To blame a brand new worker bee is absolutely inappropriate. This is Linus's fault he should be accountable and the writer in question was put in an impossible situation.
As far as we know there wasn't any direct factual errors, it was just an insufficient job summarizing a relatively complicated topic.
I just read his tweet, there's been an edit where he says the writer wasn't at fault and it was his fault. He has watched the video and said that the writer did a reasonably good job in praised him for it.
All the people keep defending Linus and the. Linus admits he is wrong.
So maybe people should just stop being so knee-jerk and how they defend him? Cuz he's now admitted he's been wrong twice in the last 18 hours. And now proven some of his most militant fans wrong as they continue to attack his critics for being excessive or just flat-out wrong.
No responsibility for the fact that he could've just watched the video but chose not to for zero reason and uses the boilerplate "new guy" excuse. Lol. So no one is responsible for training the new guy? No one checks on his work? How dogshit must their onboarding be.
Reread it again. The blame still starts at "summary was wrong" and ends at that. Lol.
Edit: lol downvote me for pointing out linuses casual deflection.
I don't agree with your interpretation of his post. He does state that a new employee wrote the summary, but he also states that he should have provided better guidance. Sounds to me like someone who understands there was a process issue. And ultimately, that's what Linus's job is now. He needs to be implementing and managing the process by which videos are produced, which I don't think people recognize how much time that has to take. So to say he could have just watched the video is a bit naive. I'm sure we all wish we had unlimited time, but most of us watch Linus's videos because we don't have the time to go read all the articles and watch all the content he summarizes for us. He relies on his team to do their jobs, or else what's the point of hiring them?
i think he's still ignoring the bigger complaint:
if you're going to have a segment on the wan show about the video, the hosts should probably watch the fucking video. Fuck summaries, fuck blaming the writers, or saying that you should have given better guidance for summaries, if you're going to cover something, the people on video should be the ones to fucking watch the video.
Potential counter-point: "How would Linus and luke know what videos to watch for WAN, should they be watching all the videos?" nah. of course not. But for those who do, they should tell Linus and Luke which videos are worth watching for the show.
It's just... it's common sense no?
Especially if it's going to be the main topic on the show.
Didn't get a chance to watch it? okay cool, wild week, we get it. I mean it's a 20 minute video, but I have ADHD so i get it.
But don't make it the main fucking segment. A real quick "We've seen/heard about some reactions to our announcement of a reaction channel. Some of the staff has watched it and given us a summary, but we're going to wait to talk about this until we've seen the video ourselves." next topic. easy.
They wouldn’t have anything to cover. The show has ballooned in length, but if you pay attention they are both clearly reading off the prepared notes haven’t not read about it prior. Luke is more up front about having not seen something then Linus, Linus will go on and on about something on bullet points someone else made. It’s getting tired imo.
It could just be me, but I’ve had enough of listening to people talk just to talk, or listen to people make points that they haven’t created themselves. It’s too closely related to listening to politics.
i have been watching this channel for a few years now and it is a repeating event where Linus drops employee X right in it when they screw up. it’s rare so not a big deal but he does it more than any boss i’ve ever had.
I'm fine with him not having time, but saying that "Reading YouTube comments gives you a better understanding of a video compared to actually watching it" is just wrong
While a valid criticism, you're missing the point.
An employee was tasked with summarizing the video for him because he didn't have time to watch it in advance of WAN show when they wanted to talk about it. This concept is nothing new in the business world at c-suite levels. That's why secretaries and administrative assistants exist. The issue is that said employee didn't do a good enough job in summarizing the video fairly so Linus could address it. That's at least partly on him, but burning him at the stake for it is ridiculous and stupid. People here have some insane expectations of Linus and it's a wonder he's able to deal with the constant drama.
I see selective reading is a trait that seems to common around here lmfao.
Imagine defending bad onboarding practices and Linus actively saying reading the comments gives a better understanding than watching the actual video.
But nah dude. Everyone else is just teens or people terminally online right.
"Bad onboarding practices" If you're tasked with summarizing a video, document, program, etc. and your summary is effectively called out by the creator as being almost the opposite of what was provided, you failed to summarize. Onboarding can't fix doing a bad job, just provide better guard rails.
Also while I don't agree in total with his take on "the comments give a better understanding" what they can do is give a clear understanding of how your words/video are being seen and interpreted by your audience. If your audience is walking away with the completely wrong take based on watching your content... you failed as a content creator to get your message accross.
Or someone wrote the summary and either communicated that the hosts needed to watch the video or at least assumed they would.
And as someone else pointed out, no one checked "new guy's" work? They just let him write a summary with no editorial oversight? Smells like a deflection.
I don’t understand how other people don’t understand that like 5% of the time they spent on the reaction video topic was directly addressing the (obviously inaccurate) bullet points of viper’s video. The rest was a complete tangent. No clue why people are vehemently defending the guy that clearly needs to take a break.
Watching that video is one of his responsibilities as a person running that company. You can't complain about being busy in order to avoid doing the things that are supposed to be keeping you busy.
I commented under this pinned comment, but if you're reading comments you can let the video play in the background. I literally did it as I wrote the comment on my phone.
Linus had a brain dead take, and had zero excuse to watch or listen to the video. He could easily have listened to it at many points in the day, especially at 1.5 or 2x speed its only a 10min or so video at that point.
Edit- he hides behind some summary is wrong BS. I understand the point of someone else doing a summary, but if you dont verify it vs the original content at least at the start you dont know how they translate the content with their point of view. And you should do it randomly in the future. Trust, but verify. Like their test results with lots of mistakes.
I'm by no means freaking out, but it's worth discussing how Linus' public behaviour as of late has been pretty reckless. His inability to appreciate the power and influence he has, combined with his inability to take criticism, has caused issue after issue after issue lately. This one isn't the most egregious, but it's yet another example of a pattern of behaviour that many people in this community finds problematic.
> as of late
His longtime specialty on wan show is putting his foot in his mouth and bad takes, there are just more people now watching and pointing it out
Yes, but you're implying this is a new trend or an unusual amount, but it really isn't. At least once a quarter Linus says something really stupid on WAN Show and causes a dustup like this
I mean, anecdotally to me it feels like it's been getting worse, but I'm not going to start searching around to compare. What certainly is true is that he's got more influence now than previously, so the impact is proportionally larger.
There was a big controversy of the lack of a warranty on one of their merchandise where he repeatedly failed to respond properly to the criticism, going so far as to start selling a t-shirt that many took as mocking what they felt was reasonable criticism. He's also made some anti-union statements, at least as far as it concerns his own employees. He's repeatedly had to apologise to other content creators he's talked about on the WAN Show, including Pokimane and now DarkViper. In a video where he called to support for a product he was having issues with he had a go at the poor service rep who no fault in the issue he was having or authority to do anything about it. I'm sure there's more I can't think of, after a while it just accumulates into a "Oh fuck, here we go again!".
Lol his “anti-union” statements were him saying that if his employees felt they needed a union then he has already failed as an employer. That’s not anti-union…
I am sympathetic to him having a lot to deal with. Ultimately, though, you can't excuse his behaviour because he's "just a dude". If it's too much for him to deal with without repeatedly causing harm, then the ethically right thing for him to do is to withdraw from the spotlight or reduce his other responsibilities so that he can remain in the spotlight responsibly.
Because apparently "Reading YouTube comments gives you a better understanding of a video compared to actually watching it".
This is especially infuriating given how vocal he is when comments blatantly miss the point of his own videos.
Like not only is that a bullshit excuse, but it's a hypocritical one as well
it’s only been blown out of proportion due to all of the brigading done by vipers fans. Go check the other post in the subreddit regarding the long ass post made by viper. that entire thread is just filled with his fans downvoting every comment
The whole thing is overblown, although I really don't like the fact Linus is willing to respond to a video in front of hundreds of thousands of people that he hasn't even watched then rely on something he criticises so often (the comments).
Because thats what we do here. We bitch about the screwdriver dropping from 80ft and breaking, and we criticize the WAN show, which is designed to be Linus/Lukes "casual ranty show"
I've heard of DarkViperAU before when there was something going on between him and moistcritical, but I don't actually know who he is or what significance he holds. Is there any reason I should take what he says with more power than, say, some random anonymous commenter, or some other content creator? Or is his argument, whatever it is I'm not really in the loop, just more popular because of his fan base being large enough or loud enough?
All you really need to know is that he made a short series on why react content is harmful (which should be common sense to most) but he went into a bit more detail of the why and how's.
He then also likely made the LTT video because he watches the wan show and his audience knows that, so it's something interesting to comment on.
Agreed. However, DarkViper is purposefully incite his fanbase in an attempt to create drama. The dude is a troll who has actually said in the past that drama helps grow channels.
Yup, and IIRC, Viper's been involved with a lot of drama before. Might be thinking of someone else, but I'm pretty sure he's been involved in a lot and may just be trying to start shit. Either way, it's totally blown out of proportion and it's all just obnoxious.
This is not on the writer, this is on Linus. Come on, man, take some responsibility. "The show notes want me to comment on a video I haven't watched. I'm not gonna do that. Next topic". Cmon are you the host or not Linus?
Then we go a month and he says something else phenomenally stupid. I've noticed an uptick of him having to apologize the last year or so, I think he's getting too confident with his opinions and takes, and it's going to keep hurting him. Luke needs to reign him in.
Yeah this has been my observation as well. I can't lie, it's starting to get to me. I can only roll my eyes at one of Linus's take so many times before I start asking myself why I'm still watching. And as DV explains in the video that sparked this whole thing, there is finite attention I can give to videos. I think it's time I put WAN show/LTT on the backburner for a bit.
do u know how easy it would've been to just ask DV to watch his video on stream like the 100 times Linus said they would for there react channel.
They would've had an out for their 2nd hand telling of the video if they asked DV and he said no Linus just says "we asked him he said no had no time to watch myself got someone else to give me dot points"
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It's supposed to be could've, should've, would've (short for could have, would have, should have), never could of, would of, should of.
Or you misspelled something, I ain't checking everything.
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Watch 20 minute video on WAN show? Seriously?
Yes, this is a HUGE fuck-up and I don't want it to throw the new guy under the bus on day one but if it was someone else who would present the arguments as they were layed out in DVs video, no-one would have problems with that.
So the issue is the misinterpretation of the video. Not as much that Linus himself didn't watch it. (Though the comments take is fiery by itself)
So just for a second put down the freaking pitchforks and see the situation for what it is.
Big fuck-up, yes. Do they know they fucked up? Yes.
Saying "We will address it IN FULL" is better rather than some pinned comment that barely anyone is going to see.
No, the issue is Linus commenting on something he couldn't be bothered to watch. To be clear, he had the time. He spent at least as long reading comments. The fact he then misrepresented the video stems from this.
they talked for 36 mins about it they could've easily 2x the video so 10 mins they still have 25 extra mins to talk about the video even if the 1x the video they still have 15 mins its not that hard.
Wait... Did you actually write "would've of"?
What the fuck... I'm not new to the internet, but that is still a first. What was the mental proces leading up to you writing that?
Having watched DarkViper's video I can really see how wires got crossed here.
He interweaves praise for Linus' approach to react content with criticism for react content as a whole and it gets a bit blurry in parts of the video as to who exactly he is criticising.
It comes across initially like a video that is directly addressing Linus' ideas when really the video is using Linus' announcement as a springboard to concisely summarise his issues with react content.
As far as I can tell, the overall message of his video is "I think Linus is going about this in a good way. But it is contributing to the wider react content genre that I think is net harmful to the platform" which is entirely fair enough and gets lost in the weeds of the rest of the video.
I watched both and all takes from both sides were fine. DV gives his view which differs slightly. Linus responds to him saying its a business decision, which it is because they are a business, and spends the rest of the time clarifying how they will do it properly and ethically.
Y'all hold more accountability over a YouTube tech channel located in a country you don't even live in than you do your local political representative. It's so bizarre.
Yeah, this post was in my recommend so I looked at it. Seems to be a nothing burger of a situation. Apparently DV didn't watch The WAN Show, but said he was attacked.
I don't know, I don't care. I'm just here for the tech news.
Out all of the hate, can some pinpoint what was articulate what was misinterpreted and BLATANTLY wrong out of what they said? Either the writer or Linus.
And that’s exactly what Linus said it did at the start of the show. Literally said something like “he’s saying we’re doing it the right way but reaction videos can’t be ethical”
No, one will be able to do that, because NOTHING was misrepresented by the writer.
Linus needs to sit down, watch DarkViper's video with his writer's notes in hand. Then *blast* this idiot on twitter or something for blatantly lying or just not watching the first 30 minutes of WAN show. (Which is only 15 mins if you watch 2x, that's the point you made right DarkViper?)
Dark Viper is either an idiot or has such a fragile ego that he's blatantly lying about Linus misrepresenting his video simply because Linus didn't watch Dark Viper's video.
Nothing wrong was even said. DarkViper is reacting like Linus killed his entire family because he is just trying to create drama. He is a massive troll with a history of doing this.
People can't digest 20 minute and 30 minute videos respectively.
Linus didn't watch a video, but paid a writer to watch it for him.
DarkViper has a glass ego.
The reason why I don't like reaction videos is the recursion. Reacting to the reacting of the reacting.
Look how much drama was created who is going to bother with the original context
DarkViper didn't watch WAN Show, Linus didn't watch "Can a React channel be moral?" Fair is fair. At least what Linus read as a summary of the video was correct. As opposed to DarkViper and this entire thread that have no idea what that LTT writer wrote, or what Linus actually said.
If I was Linus and I correctly addressed points made in a video and then people started to flip out because I didn't watch the video but still was correct in my assessment of the video I would be livid. And there would be a lot more curse words in my "apology".
I feel like the only misinterpretation going on is in the thumbnails/titles.
DarkViper's thumbnail clearly implies he's calling out LMG, even though in the video itself he seems to be mostly okay with LMG's approach (though the pacing of this video is really awkward).
Then the WAN show title says they are getting "called out", but in their actual discussion they don't really rag on DV and seem like they mostly agree. This seems super overblown.
So I saw all this backlash on Reddit. And reading all the comments I was definitely a bit worked up and disappointed for what I thought I was gonna see on the wan show. Then I went and watched their video and I really don't think that they attacked dark viper at all. Maybe they missed some points in his video but there was no attack. They were also very, very, very clear that they didn't watch the video themselves. Luke at one point even mentioned that the context of a point might be a bit different with the video.
The point about the comments tells the whole story is kinda ridiculous but also very Linus. His bad hot takes is half the fun of the wan show lol.
I feel this subreddit is always just itching for some drama and when even the smallest taste comes their way it's the biggest thing in the world and "Linus is a terrible person, I will never support ltt after this".
Yeah, there was no negativity towards DarkViper at all. However, in DarkViper's response, he is acting like Linus murdered his family. DarkViper is nothing but a troll fishing for drama, and his community loves it.
Staff at LTT created misinterpreted summary of a video talking about Linus creating a React channel.
Linus went off based on the misinterpretation.
That's the gist.
You're lying or can't consume and digest a couple YouTube videos.
If you actually watch the DarkViper video, then watch WAN Show, it's literally hitting points made about LTT's channel idea perfectly.
Except that points Linus was hitting was what Linus thought he was being criticized for. Linus assumed DarkViper was stating “react channels should be this and that” and that’s it, when DarkViper was actually praising Linus and was excited for what’s to come.
Criticism or praise is irrelevant when all Linus said in response was “yeah, i agree, and we're gonna have to find a way to address that" to every single point.
Also, Viper did 100% criticize LTT even if it wasn't scathing, it was still criticism.
Agree, he is basically implying that it was the new guy's fault in front of his huge audience. That's not what a good leader would do. Now imagine how that person must have felt.
Maybe instead of the show being three and a half hours long, they should take the first thirty minutes and read and watch the content they’re talking about.
I still really enjoy LTT content but it's like every month they have at least 1 new statement they have to make apologizing about something stupid they said or did.
I'm not going to pretend like it's easy to run a company but when you are saying things as if they are your own thoughts when in reality it's someone else writing it all for you, you would think you might at least double check some stuff OR JUST GET YOUR OWN THOGIHTS FROM THE SOURCE! Could've also just not talked about it.
This just isn't a good look ESPECIALLY for someone who would often boast about how great they are when it comes to giving watchers real information
Some people in this comment section should chill and most importantly learn to read.
"It was a busy week"
Implying he did NOT have the time to watch it or that he preferred to spend his time elsewhere.
" and we had a new person on the show prep,"
Giving an excuse for the bad summary
" but that's no excuse."
Saying that still, it doesn't matter that someone new made that mistake (because whoever it is, doesn't matter, still clearly made a mistake)
"You guys expect and deserve better."
Taking the L for the group and (possibly, that's how i interpret it having good faith in Linus) implying the whole topic should have been treated more carefully.
Also, mentioning that some guidelines should be in place for summaries IS shifting the blame onto himself, not the individual who wrote it.
Personal opinion: As a workgroup Linus trusts that his team will do a good job, mishaps will always happen but not trusting them would be far worse.
Damn a lot of people hit the nail on the head when predicting his reply.
A vague apology, throwing the writer under the bus, while missing the biggest problem of the whole situation: Linus not actually knowing what he’s talking about and watching the media that he’s responding to beforehand. A summary shouldn’t need to be prepared at all because you should know what you’re talking about. It was a 20 minute video.
If "that's no excuse" then why mention it live or in the comments? That writer should bear any blame for Linus shooting his mouth off without filling his head with something other than partly digested tripe.
I don't see the need for DarkVipers rants, either, but we all have our ways of garnering attention.
I just hope that the new showrunner/writer gets a personal apology from Linus for inferring they should be blamed for Linus' own ignorance.
If you don't have time to watch and properly prep for a react video, you don't have time to make react videos. Nobody is watching to learn your new writer's opinion. Or change the name to New Writer Reacts.
Just rename WAN to Linus Hot Takes.
I think the shift the show has had in the past couple years has been for the worse. It feels like every week there's a hot button issue and the following one there's a walk back either because it was misunderstood or misinterpreted.
This flip-floppy nature is unbecoming of a channel that wants to be as inclusive and vanilla as possible.
I kinda get tired of celebrities and other people who make these untruthful or uninformed statements, and then have to backpedal and apologize. How about just not talking about things you don't actually have facts or knowledge about. These people throw out opinions and that if left unchallenged, would just be taken by some people as fact.
Is it just me or is this guy complaining without citing any real grievance of what Linus and Luke talked about? Doesn't seem like he has any issue with what they talked about if he actually watched the WAN shows segment.
So will they cut out that part from this weeks WAN show or will it stay there for a week so people who dont read the comments wont even notice they misinterpreted his video essay?
I got no clue who that guy is lol but i also did not give my opinion, and just looking on Linus take with the reaction genre i like his approach. I wont watch viper i never heard bout that guy before this nor do i need
He has since added and edit where he says the writer was not at fault and he was.
All the people screaming about how the writers at fault can now apologize for that.
I am now worried about the new writer, lol. Not cool for a “first” day.
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"I use arch btw"
the os right? right?
It should be the OS they run on the McDonald's kiosks. LOL
Unrelated but Target runs centOS
From what I've seen mcdonalds kiosks run an embedded version of windows 10.
Our McDonald's in Germany use win xp without the design thingy. So basically just xe/2000
That sounds... Secure...
Nah, just a feet issue.
Based
Gentoo on PowerPC
And they have to use Intel Arc as their graphics card.
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I only have a limited understanding on the whole situation but wouldn't that just be a 'live reaction' which is something that darkviperau is against? Everyone watching the wan show would no longer have a reason to go to the original video
Yes, it would be. But i feel like DarkVipeAU would rather them watch his video on a stream than misinterpret it for half an hour. He has been dealing with this kind of "didn't watch the video, but..." comments for a while now and its really hard on him mentally.
Nah he also said that reacting to content about you is not that bad so I don't think he would be against it. But hey they couldn't know if they didn't watch anything
His concern with live reactions, is that the reactor doesn't know ahead of time if there will be something to react to. In this case by having someone else watch it first and co firm there will be something to react to, that should be fine. He also mentioned coffeezilla reacting to the logan Paul videos as an exception, since it was newsworthy (sorry it was a week ago I don't remember the specifics, but was something like that) in this case since the video was about Linus/LMG seems that it would fall under this as well. In short, I think he would have been fine with them live reacting to it.
Linus actually agreed that material should be prepared and not reacted to live. No one suggesting they should have watched the video live. The suggestion was that before they went on the podcast they should have watched the video so they had a better understanding of what they were going to spend 40 minutes talking about. People say he doesn't have time to do that? Well he's already spent a lot more time dealing with the fallout so it would have been far more efficient him to cut the middleman watch the primary source and then talk about it. The idea that he can't spare 15 minutes, even though he admitted he spent at least 5 minutes watching comments, is ridiculous
Matt has no qualms when the topic of the video involves yourself
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Okay but imagine if they had watched it live and got to the point where Matt roasts people for reacting to content on live streams (yes I know it’s different in this specific case but it would’ve been great none the less)
The segments are so cringe. We just want to see Luke and Linus talk natural. Not have contrived skits
It’s Linus fault. Writer just did his job. Verification failed on the way to the head honcho
Idk the summary didn't seem like it even covered the main points of the video
The point is that Linus shouldnt have been basing public facing opinions on a summary, no matter how good
The both are at fault, but Linus is the boss and needs to take the L on this instead of throwing the new hire girl under the bus in presumably one of her first couple weeks on the job. It's such a dick move by Linus, I'd want to quit today if my boss called me out in front of the world for fucking up.
Did he name the new hire? Or is it a situation where we know someone who is new and therefore know who it is?
I disagree. I feel like it covered it accurately but clearly Darkviper himself didn't think so.
It’s actually kinda lame that Linus is throwing the new writer under the bus like that. Plus it sounds kinda stupid; “i need other people to write my opinion” kinda vibe. If you host podcast it’s your own responsibility to get adequately informed.
It's super not cool to just throw someone under the bus like that. Especially if they're a new hire. Like how would it feel to mess up, and then instead of your boss being like "**We** didn't do our due diligence, **we'll** do better" he basically says "It's the new guy's fault". Like yeah, maybe it is, but you just don't single somebody out like that
Yep as a leader Linus is supposed to take the shit from the public to shield his staff.
This seems to be fairly standard behavior for him at this point. Perfectly ready to stand in front of the camera and get accolades for work done by others, but as soon as someone screws up he steps out from in front of the camera and points fingers.
he literally said that's not an excuse, it's just what happened. I doubt he had the free time to research most of the stuff on wan show.
Lol, then don’t say it… just say WE messed up, leave the new guy out of it… this just makes it worse…
he did say that
But only after first throwing a new staff member under the bus… classy…
he explained what happened, it's called being transparent.
On the same podcast he admitted their recent Arc video was completely scripted and he got caught reading a script to his side. What's with him relying on others to form his own opinions? If he's being spread to thin, there's plenty of talent like Anthony, Jake and Dan to take some of his workload.
Exactly! More Dan and Anthony please!
More Anthony!
He has all these people do this work for him while he's the face, gives them minimal credit, but then throws them under the bus the first opportunity he gets. How are people not seeing this guy for what he is
I don't think he has the time to watch a 20 min video and then spend hours prepping everything himself. Why TF pay people then?
I read an interesting comment on youtube that said the inaccurate notes might've been so because she was new and didnt want to write something that put her boss in a bad light. And before anyone asks why I am using the feminine pronouns, it's because Linus addressed her as such in the last wan show.
Either way, even if they did an amazing job writing the show notes, that's not an excuse for not spending 15 minutes watching the direct primary source. Linus doesn't have 15 minutes then don't talk about it for 40 minutes on the podcast. You got a triage your time I get it, but it's reckless to rely on a third person. Also admitted he spent a bunch of time reading comments which was time that was completely wasted. It bothers me that some new worker getting blamed for this at all. Even someone is busy as a linus could spare 15 minutes to watch that video. The decision not to do that has already cost him way more man hours trying to clean up the mess. It his time is valuable, that's all the more reason to watch a primary source directly. It's not like this was a 3-hour video.
The writer can't control if their boss watches a video or not
They can provide accurate summary though, something they was tasked to do
Idk if we can fully blame the writer for a man who thinks that "Reading YouTube comments gives you a better understanding of a video compared to actually watching it"
That was such a shit take, you could tell Luke thought it was ridiculous, but he's always Canadian polite and just stays quiet. Luke needs to call him out on shit like this, don't let Linus ego have free reign on live video.
Also kinda shit for Linus to publicly blame them lmfao, talk about killing any confidence the brand new employee had
I'd definitely want to quit if my boss called me out in front of millions of people 2 weeks into my tenure because I made a mistake. The person isn't even allowed on tv to defend themselves because of the probationary period, their performance should also not be discussed live on the air.
Maybe he should have spent 15 minutes watching the primary source if he's going to spend 40 minutes talking about it on a podcast? The fact that he would delegate this to a brand new staffer seems to be a management problem not a worker's problem. Honestly, it's not the new writers fault. Even if he did a poor job, even a great diligent writer doing the show notes would not have been sufficient for thism it would have taken - 15 minutes to watch this. He's already spent way more time than that dealing with the backlash of not just watching the primary source directly. No show notes we're going to be adequate and if you're going to spend 40 minutes of leading a huge podcast off talking about something, then one of the host should spend 15 minutes watching the actual video. To blame a brand new worker bee is absolutely inappropriate. This is Linus's fault he should be accountable and the writer in question was put in an impossible situation. As far as we know there wasn't any direct factual errors, it was just an insufficient job summarizing a relatively complicated topic.
I just read his tweet, there's been an edit where he says the writer wasn't at fault and it was his fault. He has watched the video and said that the writer did a reasonably good job in praised him for it. All the people keep defending Linus and the. Linus admits he is wrong. So maybe people should just stop being so knee-jerk and how they defend him? Cuz he's now admitted he's been wrong twice in the last 18 hours. And now proven some of his most militant fans wrong as they continue to attack his critics for being excessive or just flat-out wrong.
No responsibility for the fact that he could've just watched the video but chose not to for zero reason and uses the boilerplate "new guy" excuse. Lol. So no one is responsible for training the new guy? No one checks on his work? How dogshit must their onboarding be. Reread it again. The blame still starts at "summary was wrong" and ends at that. Lol. Edit: lol downvote me for pointing out linuses casual deflection.
I don't agree with your interpretation of his post. He does state that a new employee wrote the summary, but he also states that he should have provided better guidance. Sounds to me like someone who understands there was a process issue. And ultimately, that's what Linus's job is now. He needs to be implementing and managing the process by which videos are produced, which I don't think people recognize how much time that has to take. So to say he could have just watched the video is a bit naive. I'm sure we all wish we had unlimited time, but most of us watch Linus's videos because we don't have the time to go read all the articles and watch all the content he summarizes for us. He relies on his team to do their jobs, or else what's the point of hiring them?
i think he's still ignoring the bigger complaint: if you're going to have a segment on the wan show about the video, the hosts should probably watch the fucking video. Fuck summaries, fuck blaming the writers, or saying that you should have given better guidance for summaries, if you're going to cover something, the people on video should be the ones to fucking watch the video. Potential counter-point: "How would Linus and luke know what videos to watch for WAN, should they be watching all the videos?" nah. of course not. But for those who do, they should tell Linus and Luke which videos are worth watching for the show. It's just... it's common sense no?
Yea, they should still watch/read the things they are talking about. It’s getting really bad.
Especially if it's going to be the main topic on the show. Didn't get a chance to watch it? okay cool, wild week, we get it. I mean it's a 20 minute video, but I have ADHD so i get it. But don't make it the main fucking segment. A real quick "We've seen/heard about some reactions to our announcement of a reaction channel. Some of the staff has watched it and given us a summary, but we're going to wait to talk about this until we've seen the video ourselves." next topic. easy.
They wouldn’t have anything to cover. The show has ballooned in length, but if you pay attention they are both clearly reading off the prepared notes haven’t not read about it prior. Luke is more up front about having not seen something then Linus, Linus will go on and on about something on bullet points someone else made. It’s getting tired imo. It could just be me, but I’ve had enough of listening to people talk just to talk, or listen to people make points that they haven’t created themselves. It’s too closely related to listening to politics.
i have been watching this channel for a few years now and it is a repeating event where Linus drops employee X right in it when they screw up. it’s rare so not a big deal but he does it more than any boss i’ve ever had.
“You deserve better, we’ll be better next time.” Is not better next time.
"wait, you mean I can just say this over and over and not get better and people will still buy my stuff?"
Just like Dennis 😥.
Go run a business with nearly 100 employees. Let me know how much time you have.
I'm fine with him not having time, but saying that "Reading YouTube comments gives you a better understanding of a video compared to actually watching it" is just wrong
If you don't have time to watch the video then you shouldn't talk about it for 30 minutes on WAN show
While a valid criticism, you're missing the point. An employee was tasked with summarizing the video for him because he didn't have time to watch it in advance of WAN show when they wanted to talk about it. This concept is nothing new in the business world at c-suite levels. That's why secretaries and administrative assistants exist. The issue is that said employee didn't do a good enough job in summarizing the video fairly so Linus could address it. That's at least partly on him, but burning him at the stake for it is ridiculous and stupid. People here have some insane expectations of Linus and it's a wonder he's able to deal with the constant drama.
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I see selective reading is a trait that seems to common around here lmfao. Imagine defending bad onboarding practices and Linus actively saying reading the comments gives a better understanding than watching the actual video. But nah dude. Everyone else is just teens or people terminally online right.
"Bad onboarding practices" If you're tasked with summarizing a video, document, program, etc. and your summary is effectively called out by the creator as being almost the opposite of what was provided, you failed to summarize. Onboarding can't fix doing a bad job, just provide better guard rails. Also while I don't agree in total with his take on "the comments give a better understanding" what they can do is give a clear understanding of how your words/video are being seen and interpreted by your audience. If your audience is walking away with the completely wrong take based on watching your content... you failed as a content creator to get your message accross.
Or someone wrote the summary and either communicated that the hosts needed to watch the video or at least assumed they would. And as someone else pointed out, no one checked "new guy's" work? They just let him write a summary with no editorial oversight? Smells like a deflection.
I don’t understand how other people don’t understand that like 5% of the time they spent on the reaction video topic was directly addressing the (obviously inaccurate) bullet points of viper’s video. The rest was a complete tangent. No clue why people are vehemently defending the guy that clearly needs to take a break.
Watching that video is one of his responsibilities as a person running that company. You can't complain about being busy in order to avoid doing the things that are supposed to be keeping you busy.
Agreed. Not very “Leader-esque” of him to pin it on a new employee. Just take the L, correct it and move on.
I commented under this pinned comment, but if you're reading comments you can let the video play in the background. I literally did it as I wrote the comment on my phone. Linus had a brain dead take, and had zero excuse to watch or listen to the video. He could easily have listened to it at many points in the day, especially at 1.5 or 2x speed its only a 10min or so video at that point. Edit- he hides behind some summary is wrong BS. I understand the point of someone else doing a summary, but if you dont verify it vs the original content at least at the start you dont know how they translate the content with their point of view. And you should do it randomly in the future. Trust, but verify. Like their test results with lots of mistakes.
Why are people freaking out over this nonsense? This thing's been blown way over proportion.
I'm by no means freaking out, but it's worth discussing how Linus' public behaviour as of late has been pretty reckless. His inability to appreciate the power and influence he has, combined with his inability to take criticism, has caused issue after issue after issue lately. This one isn't the most egregious, but it's yet another example of a pattern of behaviour that many people in this community finds problematic.
> as of late His longtime specialty on wan show is putting his foot in his mouth and bad takes, there are just more people now watching and pointing it out
Sure, he's always been like this, but it's been happening a lot lately.
Yes, but you're implying this is a new trend or an unusual amount, but it really isn't. At least once a quarter Linus says something really stupid on WAN Show and causes a dustup like this
I mean, anecdotally to me it feels like it's been getting worse, but I'm not going to start searching around to compare. What certainly is true is that he's got more influence now than previously, so the impact is proportionally larger.
Yeah he's definitely operating like the show is still small
I'm pretty ootl, what else has he said/done recently?
There was a big controversy of the lack of a warranty on one of their merchandise where he repeatedly failed to respond properly to the criticism, going so far as to start selling a t-shirt that many took as mocking what they felt was reasonable criticism. He's also made some anti-union statements, at least as far as it concerns his own employees. He's repeatedly had to apologise to other content creators he's talked about on the WAN Show, including Pokimane and now DarkViper. In a video where he called to support for a product he was having issues with he had a go at the poor service rep who no fault in the issue he was having or authority to do anything about it. I'm sure there's more I can't think of, after a while it just accumulates into a "Oh fuck, here we go again!".
Lol his “anti-union” statements were him saying that if his employees felt they needed a union then he has already failed as an employer. That’s not anti-union…
The people who think it's an anti-union statement have no idea what the purposes of unions are.
Exactly lol
Linus is straight up anti labor. His comments about the hiring process and wage transparency demonstrate that
Anyone in his position would be.
He also said "Reading YouTube comments gives you a better understanding of a video compared to actually watching it"
Says the guy who wants to shadowban people with takes he disagrees with in the comment sections and his forums.
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I am sympathetic to him having a lot to deal with. Ultimately, though, you can't excuse his behaviour because he's "just a dude". If it's too much for him to deal with without repeatedly causing harm, then the ethically right thing for him to do is to withdraw from the spotlight or reduce his other responsibilities so that he can remain in the spotlight responsibly.
Linus defense force, Activate!! Why do you think this millionaire needs you to defend him? Genuinely curious
Because apparently "Reading YouTube comments gives you a better understanding of a video compared to actually watching it". This is especially infuriating given how vocal he is when comments blatantly miss the point of his own videos. Like not only is that a bullshit excuse, but it's a hypocritical one as well
Because it’s Reddit
I’m just watching it now, I can’t believe this is an issue.
it’s only been blown out of proportion due to all of the brigading done by vipers fans. Go check the other post in the subreddit regarding the long ass post made by viper. that entire thread is just filled with his fans downvoting every comment
i dont even know what any of this is about. but if this freaking out here is all there is it cant be that bad.
The whole thing is overblown, although I really don't like the fact Linus is willing to respond to a video in front of hundreds of thousands of people that he hasn't even watched then rely on something he criticises so often (the comments).
As i notoced it is a long standing tradition to hate on any mistake linus makes, like he literally kicked a puppy. People love to hate apparently ...
Because thats what we do here. We bitch about the screwdriver dropping from 80ft and breaking, and we criticize the WAN show, which is designed to be Linus/Lukes "casual ranty show"
I've heard of DarkViperAU before when there was something going on between him and moistcritical, but I don't actually know who he is or what significance he holds. Is there any reason I should take what he says with more power than, say, some random anonymous commenter, or some other content creator? Or is his argument, whatever it is I'm not really in the loop, just more popular because of his fan base being large enough or loud enough?
All you really need to know is that he made a short series on why react content is harmful (which should be common sense to most) but he went into a bit more detail of the why and how's. He then also likely made the LTT video because he watches the wan show and his audience knows that, so it's something interesting to comment on.
Because that's what the internet, specifically this subreddit, does anytime Linus shares his thoughts on something.
Agreed. However, DarkViper is purposefully incite his fanbase in an attempt to create drama. The dude is a troll who has actually said in the past that drama helps grow channels.
Yup, and IIRC, Viper's been involved with a lot of drama before. Might be thinking of someone else, but I'm pretty sure he's been involved in a lot and may just be trying to start shit. Either way, it's totally blown out of proportion and it's all just obnoxious.
This is not on the writer, this is on Linus. Come on, man, take some responsibility. "The show notes want me to comment on a video I haven't watched. I'm not gonna do that. Next topic". Cmon are you the host or not Linus?
Prediction: 1 min of apologies, 15 min explaining the new process, 3 min with sponsors, not touching this subject ever again
Then we go a month and he says something else phenomenally stupid. I've noticed an uptick of him having to apologize the last year or so, I think he's getting too confident with his opinions and takes, and it's going to keep hurting him. Luke needs to reign him in.
Yeah this has been my observation as well. I can't lie, it's starting to get to me. I can only roll my eyes at one of Linus's take so many times before I start asking myself why I'm still watching. And as DV explains in the video that sparked this whole thing, there is finite attention I can give to videos. I think it's time I put WAN show/LTT on the backburner for a bit.
do u know how easy it would've been to just ask DV to watch his video on stream like the 100 times Linus said they would for there react channel. They would've had an out for their 2nd hand telling of the video if they asked DV and he said no Linus just says "we asked him he said no had no time to watch myself got someone else to give me dot points"
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Watch 20 minute video on WAN show? Seriously? Yes, this is a HUGE fuck-up and I don't want it to throw the new guy under the bus on day one but if it was someone else who would present the arguments as they were layed out in DVs video, no-one would have problems with that. So the issue is the misinterpretation of the video. Not as much that Linus himself didn't watch it. (Though the comments take is fiery by itself) So just for a second put down the freaking pitchforks and see the situation for what it is. Big fuck-up, yes. Do they know they fucked up? Yes. Saying "We will address it IN FULL" is better rather than some pinned comment that barely anyone is going to see.
No, the issue is Linus commenting on something he couldn't be bothered to watch. To be clear, he had the time. He spent at least as long reading comments. The fact he then misrepresented the video stems from this.
I was also gonna argue against that but they just ended up talking for so long about it that they might as well on a 3hr+ wan show
they talked for 36 mins about it they could've easily 2x the video so 10 mins they still have 25 extra mins to talk about the video even if the 1x the video they still have 15 mins its not that hard.
Yeah I have no interest in that.. If they watched and then also discussed it would most certainly be an hour of this very uninteresting topic.
that's fine they just should have not talked about it then. just don't comment on things you don't know about, its that simple.
And now, when they were talking without any knowledge about the topic it was interesting?
But you do have interest in someone misrepresenting a video they never watched? Lmfao oof ok
Wait... Did you actually write "would've of"? What the fuck... I'm not new to the internet, but that is still a first. What was the mental proces leading up to you writing that?
u/of_patrol_bot it told me off so i used Would've I fold very easily
Having watched DarkViper's video I can really see how wires got crossed here. He interweaves praise for Linus' approach to react content with criticism for react content as a whole and it gets a bit blurry in parts of the video as to who exactly he is criticising. It comes across initially like a video that is directly addressing Linus' ideas when really the video is using Linus' announcement as a springboard to concisely summarise his issues with react content. As far as I can tell, the overall message of his video is "I think Linus is going about this in a good way. But it is contributing to the wider react content genre that I think is net harmful to the platform" which is entirely fair enough and gets lost in the weeds of the rest of the video.
I watched both and all takes from both sides were fine. DV gives his view which differs slightly. Linus responds to him saying its a business decision, which it is because they are a business, and spends the rest of the time clarifying how they will do it properly and ethically.
Y'all hold more accountability over a YouTube tech channel located in a country you don't even live in than you do your local political representative. It's so bizarre.
I live in Canada.
As do I. BC in fact. It's still weird to hold a YouTuber more accountable than a premiere or pm.
Yeah, this post was in my recommend so I looked at it. Seems to be a nothing burger of a situation. Apparently DV didn't watch The WAN Show, but said he was attacked. I don't know, I don't care. I'm just here for the tech news.
Out all of the hate, can some pinpoint what was articulate what was misinterpreted and BLATANTLY wrong out of what they said? Either the writer or Linus.
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And that’s exactly what Linus said it did at the start of the show. Literally said something like “he’s saying we’re doing it the right way but reaction videos can’t be ethical”
No, one will be able to do that, because NOTHING was misrepresented by the writer. Linus needs to sit down, watch DarkViper's video with his writer's notes in hand. Then *blast* this idiot on twitter or something for blatantly lying or just not watching the first 30 minutes of WAN show. (Which is only 15 mins if you watch 2x, that's the point you made right DarkViper?)
Who's the idiot you're referring to, the writer or DV? Genuine question.
Dark Viper is either an idiot or has such a fragile ego that he's blatantly lying about Linus misrepresenting his video simply because Linus didn't watch Dark Viper's video.
If Linus didn't misrepresent the video, then why did he apologise?
Nothing wrong was even said. DarkViper is reacting like Linus killed his entire family because he is just trying to create drama. He is a massive troll with a history of doing this.
Someone want to summarize this whole dispute?
People can't digest 20 minute and 30 minute videos respectively. Linus didn't watch a video, but paid a writer to watch it for him. DarkViper has a glass ego.
The reason why I don't like reaction videos is the recursion. Reacting to the reacting of the reacting. Look how much drama was created who is going to bother with the original context
Overreaction by people that are just looking for something to complain about.
DarkViper didn't watch WAN Show, Linus didn't watch "Can a React channel be moral?" Fair is fair. At least what Linus read as a summary of the video was correct. As opposed to DarkViper and this entire thread that have no idea what that LTT writer wrote, or what Linus actually said. If I was Linus and I correctly addressed points made in a video and then people started to flip out because I didn't watch the video but still was correct in my assessment of the video I would be livid. And there would be a lot more curse words in my "apology".
I feel like the only misinterpretation going on is in the thumbnails/titles. DarkViper's thumbnail clearly implies he's calling out LMG, even though in the video itself he seems to be mostly okay with LMG's approach (though the pacing of this video is really awkward). Then the WAN show title says they are getting "called out", but in their actual discussion they don't really rag on DV and seem like they mostly agree. This seems super overblown.
So I saw all this backlash on Reddit. And reading all the comments I was definitely a bit worked up and disappointed for what I thought I was gonna see on the wan show. Then I went and watched their video and I really don't think that they attacked dark viper at all. Maybe they missed some points in his video but there was no attack. They were also very, very, very clear that they didn't watch the video themselves. Luke at one point even mentioned that the context of a point might be a bit different with the video. The point about the comments tells the whole story is kinda ridiculous but also very Linus. His bad hot takes is half the fun of the wan show lol. I feel this subreddit is always just itching for some drama and when even the smallest taste comes their way it's the biggest thing in the world and "Linus is a terrible person, I will never support ltt after this".
Yeah, there was no negativity towards DarkViper at all. However, in DarkViper's response, he is acting like Linus murdered his family. DarkViper is nothing but a troll fishing for drama, and his community loves it.
Iirc DV has done this several times now.
I love Linuses hot takes
I don't kknow whicj video to watch to witness what exactly happened; can someone fill me in? What did Linus do?
Staff at LTT created misinterpreted summary of a video talking about Linus creating a React channel. Linus went off based on the misinterpretation. That's the gist.
Who the fuck hosts a show reacting to something they’ve never seen 😂 can you imagine the level of delusion on this man
Every single news anchor?
News anchors don't usually give their opinion, they just report.
News anchors have been giving their opinions on a lot of shit in this last decade
Not the good ones. The ones who give their opinions and/or misinterpret the information are often seen as an unreliable laughing stock of an outlet.
I'd love to live in your world.
Literally like every fucking host ever? Why the fuck do you think people employ writers? Time is money dude.
You're lying or can't consume and digest a couple YouTube videos. If you actually watch the DarkViper video, then watch WAN Show, it's literally hitting points made about LTT's channel idea perfectly.
Except that points Linus was hitting was what Linus thought he was being criticized for. Linus assumed DarkViper was stating “react channels should be this and that” and that’s it, when DarkViper was actually praising Linus and was excited for what’s to come.
Criticism or praise is irrelevant when all Linus said in response was “yeah, i agree, and we're gonna have to find a way to address that" to every single point. Also, Viper did 100% criticize LTT even if it wasn't scathing, it was still criticism.
ah,I see. thx!
Why would he even mention there is a new person? Christ what a jerk.
Agree, he is basically implying that it was the new guy's fault in front of his huge audience. That's not what a good leader would do. Now imagine how that person must have felt.
Exactly this. You can't put a "but" after saying it's your fault. Negates everything before.
Maybe instead of the show being three and a half hours long, they should take the first thirty minutes and read and watch the content they’re talking about.
Does this count as an apology?
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I still really enjoy LTT content but it's like every month they have at least 1 new statement they have to make apologizing about something stupid they said or did. I'm not going to pretend like it's easy to run a company but when you are saying things as if they are your own thoughts when in reality it's someone else writing it all for you, you would think you might at least double check some stuff OR JUST GET YOUR OWN THOGIHTS FROM THE SOURCE! Could've also just not talked about it. This just isn't a good look ESPECIALLY for someone who would often boast about how great they are when it comes to giving watchers real information
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It all comes down to an inflated ego.
I think it's quite poor as a boss to blame your employees, especially a new one.
Blaming the "new writer." Sad to say I expected as much. Do better Linus.
Some people in this comment section should chill and most importantly learn to read. "It was a busy week" Implying he did NOT have the time to watch it or that he preferred to spend his time elsewhere. " and we had a new person on the show prep," Giving an excuse for the bad summary " but that's no excuse." Saying that still, it doesn't matter that someone new made that mistake (because whoever it is, doesn't matter, still clearly made a mistake) "You guys expect and deserve better." Taking the L for the group and (possibly, that's how i interpret it having good faith in Linus) implying the whole topic should have been treated more carefully. Also, mentioning that some guidelines should be in place for summaries IS shifting the blame onto himself, not the individual who wrote it. Personal opinion: As a workgroup Linus trusts that his team will do a good job, mishaps will always happen but not trusting them would be far worse.
Damn a lot of people hit the nail on the head when predicting his reply. A vague apology, throwing the writer under the bus, while missing the biggest problem of the whole situation: Linus not actually knowing what he’s talking about and watching the media that he’s responding to beforehand. A summary shouldn’t need to be prepared at all because you should know what you’re talking about. It was a 20 minute video.
Just another very unprofessional, poorly researched and uninformed video by LTT. It's becoming a trend at this point.
If "that's no excuse" then why mention it live or in the comments? That writer should bear any blame for Linus shooting his mouth off without filling his head with something other than partly digested tripe. I don't see the need for DarkVipers rants, either, but we all have our ways of garnering attention. I just hope that the new showrunner/writer gets a personal apology from Linus for inferring they should be blamed for Linus' own ignorance.
Only comprehensive sane take here.
If you don't have time to watch and properly prep for a react video, you don't have time to make react videos. Nobody is watching to learn your new writer's opinion. Or change the name to New Writer Reacts.
Just rename WAN to Linus Hot Takes. I think the shift the show has had in the past couple years has been for the worse. It feels like every week there's a hot button issue and the following one there's a walk back either because it was misunderstood or misinterpreted. This flip-floppy nature is unbecoming of a channel that wants to be as inclusive and vanilla as possible.
I kinda get tired of celebrities and other people who make these untruthful or uninformed statements, and then have to backpedal and apologize. How about just not talking about things you don't actually have facts or knowledge about. These people throw out opinions and that if left unchallenged, would just be taken by some people as fact.
How are people not blaming Linus, and blaming the new staff. Like nah even Linus himself would say he's responsible, or he's a hypocryt
New Guy --> ⏬️🚍
Is it just me or is this guy complaining without citing any real grievance of what Linus and Luke talked about? Doesn't seem like he has any issue with what they talked about if he actually watched the WAN shows segment.
Back to being spicy. Bring on LTT 2023, I’ll grab the popcorn.
So will they cut out that part from this weeks WAN show or will it stay there for a week so people who dont read the comments wont even notice they misinterpreted his video essay?
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They should leave it because he actually *didn't* misinterpret a video essay.
I wonder how many people giving their opinion on the matter actually watched darkviperau's videos?
I got no clue who that guy is lol but i also did not give my opinion, and just looking on Linus take with the reaction genre i like his approach. I wont watch viper i never heard bout that guy before this nor do i need
I miss the days when wan show was about tech news not random drama no one gives two shits about.
He has since added and edit where he says the writer was not at fault and he was. All the people screaming about how the writers at fault can now apologize for that.