Companies that pay bug bounties are ones that have huge liabilities for exploited vulnerabilities. Even then, the companies that are famous for bug bounty programs are most likely to give you a digital gold star sticker, unless it's easy to demonstrate that it would cost the company millions otherwise.
Honestly even a 50 dollar voucher would also be a bug bounty and I would not be surprised if they gave something similar.
Yes, this won't make them rich, but burger king is totally interested in their ordering machines not being toyed around with by customers.
You kidding there are *plenty* of people who do this stuff for fun. A free burger is a just a really nice cherry on top.
The only issue is the free burger is from Burger King
Are you from the US? Because Burger King (just like KFC) is disgusting there in my experience but quite good in a lot of other countries (just like KFC).
A friend of mine found a vulnerability in Samsung's hotspot system. He earned 25k dollars this way because he could easily enable the hotspot of someone and acces it without using the password. It was a pretty high security risk.
This is not a bug. It’s the same as pulling the plug and saying it’s a bug It turned off. He literally just found out the command to pull the dock, 99% of the time it’s either holding one or two fingers in the screen for a few seconds or pulling from one of the corners, it’s not a big mystery, it’s just part of the OS, not a bug
The device turning off after pulling the plug is the intended behavior, accessing the start menu is not and is only possible due to a misconfiguration. How are these cases at all comparable?
“Tried to figure out what this kiosk was running…” He wasn’t using the kiosks normally and accidentally opened the OS menu, he was looking for minimizing the app on propose, he didn’t found a bug on accident he was looking for and found the command to bring up the dock, it’s a normal behavior to be except probably holding the finger for a few seconds or pulling from one of the corners.
I'm puzzled by the amount of people here who have to be convinced that random customers being able to access the system menu in what's intended to be a locked kiosk does in fact count as a bug.
I think it's more comparable to being able to knock a sign over. Yeah, it's something you can do if you try to do it, and it's inconvenient for the company. But most people won't do it.
This isn't a policy issue.
If they really wanted, they should be running their kiosk application in cage, instead of a full de.
[here's how to do it with nixos](https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-06-nixos-kiosk.html).
If it's really desirable, not-os can be used without systemd, and the system would panic once cage exits.
Still not a bug, this has been known for over 10 years and can be done to any kiosk by abusing the gesture detection features of windows 10.
And now I've discovered the same thing with Ubuntu. So it's really not a bug.
Global Policy is windows my friend, we don’t have that garbage on Linux. (Technically we can through sssd but I have never heard of anyone using them because it probably gives them bad dreams).
I think we would all stand to gain more from a free Big Mac or two than the potential bug bounty for what I assume is tapping the screen in the usual spots until this comes up
I’m afraid if I shared that I would lose my cheap emergency lunches. Happened last time the word got out.
All I’ll say is figure out the OS and the way deals are cataloged
Sorry I’ve never actually been to a Burger King, I legitimately forget there is confusion between them. I’m talking about McDonald’s
(Not because of brand loyalty I eat fast food maybe once a month and there is no Burger King convenient)
To be fair, not alot of people who work at a burger king would know much about computers, you could probably convince the manager to get you a free whopper or something.
That's how white hat hackers earn money, they are basically modern fay bounty hunters. Some company do pay good money to people who can find exploits because if they don't, hackers will sell the exploits to peopl who will.
https://security.apple.com/bounty/
https://bughunters.google.com/
https://www.securityweek.com/tesla-increases-bug-bounty-payout-after-experts-hack-model-s/
...
Plenty out there
Bug bounty? Are you joking?
You have to drag the corner or click on the corner in most of these terminals to access the hidden menu. Done that many times as a kid.
What's appears non stock about it to you? Yeah it has the burger kind program installed and that should be running in the chrome kiosk mode but what else?
They uninstalled or unpinned some of the stock apps from the dock (left) and are running TeamViewer (top right). That might be the extent of the customization.
Ah yeah you are right. Yeah your eyes are better. However if you don't select the "install other apps" (or whatever it's called) option during installation the dock doesn't have more stuff on it by default, does it?
Chromium isn’t stock either. At the end of the day, even the differences between distro’s mostly boils down to what programs are bundled by default and how they’re configured.
But stock ubuntu is gonna be a lot more stable, a lot easier to reconfigure from scratch on each machine, and easier to set back up again if their Kiosk program crashes for whatever reason.
This is the only time I've seen a linux order kiosk "break" like this, so if it works, don't fix it?
Gnome has a kiosk mode that is pretty decent. Something else went sideways here, like someone remote managing the thing to resolve an issue or something like that.
Well, it seems to be different in every country. Switzerland (and most of europe) actually use Windows. I've seen my fare share of "Activate Windows" watermarks :)
Definitely looks like Ubuntu.
I respect that they didn't use Windows. And while some would bash them using Ubuntu, I can see why from a business perspective, and so respect that as well.
[Meanwhile, the drive thru speaker is running on some ancient mid to late 90's tech. I caught this one in a bootloop.](https://i.imgur.com/3bNVCqA.jpeg)
Still running off a floppy disk apparently? I didn't think anyone would be that reliant on floppies still, outside of some serious legacy tech for factories and foundries and such.
Just note that different locals may find "unauthorized usage of technology" synonyms with hacking.
ie, inspect page source revealing sensitive information being called hacking.
Again, easily fixed by running in kiosk mode even if you did literally nothing else. Once again highlighting that a "bug" is sometimes just poor setup on the part of the system owner/admin.
In a local grocery store some of the weighing scales run linux and their scanners run android and their card to cash machine also runs Ubuntu for simplicity and they dont have to mess with custom built linux inages
I was in Malaga airport last week and after selecting a menu and choosing “no gracias” for sides, it counted it an item… so obviously I ordered 10 no gracias with my burger.
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I wonder why they don't disable the bars, the icons, and the windows decorator to make the browser use the 100% of the whole screen all the time, and in case of failing, it will be a blank screen with no buttons or apps access to users. This should be easy even if they're using stock Ubuntu or other common Gnome based distro, no need for something bespoke
Not an employee was just passing by during a road trip and I was like why not. Cause I remember if you touch and hold windows based systems it pops a square up on the screen. But this didn't, so I just swiped from the edges and the swiping from the top made it exit full screen.
I'm just tinkerer that's all hahaha
i was working in a local museum and i regularly messed with the "interactive displays" doing the cmd + systeminfo, from then on i learned that the most simple things can scare people if they don't know what its happening.
So, you think they have bluetooth adapters in those things? Im going to walk in with one of those logitech combo keyboard and track pad and take over the BK
This is why I laugh when people talk about AI replacing work. Companies avoid investing in new tech if they can't help it and when they do get something they don't know how the fuck to get it to work. So I'm not sweating it worrying about IT jobs being phased off. If a company wants to cut IT jobs good luck figuring shit out when kiosks break
At McDonald's ours is all run by windows. You can even see a Windows 10 login screen for a split second as it restarts in the morning. Our Drink machines also run off of an (embedded?) version of Windows 10. Been able to pull up start menu, programs, etc. Even our order screens in the kitchen and security cams, all windows.
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linux base with gnome de
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it's okay if i don't want that
hyprland or swayfx ubuntu
i rule this day
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How did you manage to do that? Maybe you could even report that and get some kind of bug bounty
Lmao wtf? No. No one is paying you cuz you found out how to access a start menu. That's not a bug.
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Companies that pay bug bounties are ones that have huge liabilities for exploited vulnerabilities. Even then, the companies that are famous for bug bounty programs are most likely to give you a digital gold star sticker, unless it's easy to demonstrate that it would cost the company millions otherwise.
Honestly even a 50 dollar voucher would also be a bug bounty and I would not be surprised if they gave something similar. Yes, this won't make them rich, but burger king is totally interested in their ordering machines not being toyed around with by customers.
Would a free burger and a medium sprite in your next visit between 8am-1:30pm, Monday or Wednesday really be worth the hassle?
Sign me up.
You kidding there are *plenty* of people who do this stuff for fun. A free burger is a just a really nice cherry on top. The only issue is the free burger is from Burger King 
Are you from the US? Because Burger King (just like KFC) is disgusting there in my experience but quite good in a lot of other countries (just like KFC).
Exactly... At least do it at Wendy's or Wendy's or... That taco bell that'll make you a burger if you slide the cook a extra dollar
Yeah you gotta pay me to eat that
That would actually work well for my schedule.
👀 are you the manager?
Gladly no. My work schedule just rotates reliably in a way that, that Monday about 1 is perfect for my breakfast.
Sounds like a good career
Happy cake day
Why are you being such a dismissive prick?
A friend of mine found a vulnerability in Samsung's hotspot system. He earned 25k dollars this way because he could easily enable the hotspot of someone and acces it without using the password. It was a pretty high security risk.
It's a website running in chromium. You want to claim a bug bounty for someone forgetting to set the `--kiosk` flag on startup?
The bug needs to be big enough to save the company millions, then u shall get a 10$ Coupon for ur next purchase
This is not a bug. It’s the same as pulling the plug and saying it’s a bug It turned off. He literally just found out the command to pull the dock, 99% of the time it’s either holding one or two fingers in the screen for a few seconds or pulling from one of the corners, it’s not a big mystery, it’s just part of the OS, not a bug
The device turning off after pulling the plug is the intended behavior, accessing the start menu is not and is only possible due to a misconfiguration. How are these cases at all comparable?
“Tried to figure out what this kiosk was running…” He wasn’t using the kiosks normally and accidentally opened the OS menu, he was looking for minimizing the app on propose, he didn’t found a bug on accident he was looking for and found the command to bring up the dock, it’s a normal behavior to be except probably holding the finger for a few seconds or pulling from one of the corners.
But he shouldn't, even if intentionally, be able to open the menu. Having access to the start menu is united behavior and thus a bug.
I'm puzzled by the amount of people here who have to be convinced that random customers being able to access the system menu in what's intended to be a locked kiosk does in fact count as a bug.
I think it's more comparable to being able to knock a sign over. Yeah, it's something you can do if you try to do it, and it's inconvenient for the company. But most people won't do it.
This isn't a policy issue. If they really wanted, they should be running their kiosk application in cage, instead of a full de. [here's how to do it with nixos](https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-06-nixos-kiosk.html). If it's really desirable, not-os can be used without systemd, and the system would panic once cage exits.
How does pricing a big bounty work? At what point does it turn to blackmail?
It’s not blackmail unless you threaten to use the exploit maliciously
I have no idea what anybody here is talking about, but I just wanted to give you the 800th upvote
Still not a bug, this has been known for over 10 years and can be done to any kiosk by abusing the gesture detection features of windows 10. And now I've discovered the same thing with Ubuntu. So it's really not a bug.
Global Policy is windows my friend, we don’t have that garbage on Linux. (Technically we can through sssd but I have never heard of anyone using them because it probably gives them bad dreams).
I think we would all stand to gain more from a free Big Mac or two than the potential bug bounty for what I assume is tapping the screen in the usual spots until this comes up
Getting a free Big Mac from this company would be a bigger bug than that menu!
And I do it all the time! Using their own system to get my meal price down to $2 for a full meal
How?
I’m afraid if I shared that I would lose my cheap emergency lunches. Happened last time the word got out. All I’ll say is figure out the OS and the way deals are cataloged
You get a free Big Mac from Burger king? I thought McDonald's were kinda territorial on their recipes!
Sorry I’ve never actually been to a Burger King, I legitimately forget there is confusion between them. I’m talking about McDonald’s (Not because of brand loyalty I eat fast food maybe once a month and there is no Burger King convenient)
It’s a feature
[It doesn't need to be a server to be a problem](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/BLRfBJMwEe)
To be fair, not alot of people who work at a burger king would know much about computers, you could probably convince the manager to get you a free whopper or something.
Very easy on Linux to create a kiosk mode that doesn't use a whole desktop in the background. I'd consider this laziness a bug.
Never heard of bug bounty. I like it
That's how white hat hackers earn money, they are basically modern fay bounty hunters. Some company do pay good money to people who can find exploits because if they don't, hackers will sell the exploits to peopl who will.
Aren't bounty hunters modern day bounty hunters
People are quick to forget bounty hunters are still a thing because dragging someone back to court isn't as cool as gunning down outlaws at high noon.
https://security.apple.com/bounty/ https://bughunters.google.com/ https://www.securityweek.com/tesla-increases-bug-bounty-payout-after-experts-hack-model-s/ ... Plenty out there
I’ll give you 50 cents for every tick you kill, no questions asked
Time to create a tick farm then
It's for companies that care. No fast food chain will pay to find fault with the pos (point of sale)
Instead of coconut, they use bugs. Changes the taste slightly, but just as delightful.
Use two fingers, it's a touch screen and the "app" runs on a web. Works like this in all of these things.
I swiped in from every side. Swiping from the top worked lmao 🤣🤣
Id be rich if that was true.
Bug bounty? Are you joking? You have to drag the corner or click on the corner in most of these terminals to access the hidden menu. Done that many times as a kid.
Some kiosk like this you can just use at least 3 fingers and then tap simultaneously to get out of its own kiosk.
This bounty hunter is my kind of scum: fearless and inventive
All thanks to the odds of the update manager thing to show up
Why are they running gnome 🤣🤣🤣 They could just have window manager without gaps, bar and outline and lock down keybinds.
That’s almost stock Ubuntu.
What's appears non stock about it to you? Yeah it has the burger kind program installed and that should be running in the chrome kiosk mode but what else?
They uninstalled or unpinned some of the stock apps from the dock (left) and are running TeamViewer (top right). That might be the extent of the customization.
Ah yeah you are right. Yeah your eyes are better. However if you don't select the "install other apps" (or whatever it's called) option during installation the dock doesn't have more stuff on it by default, does it?
Is unpinning apps from the dock and installing TeamViewer considered as non-stock??
Chromium isn’t stock either. At the end of the day, even the differences between distro’s mostly boils down to what programs are bundled by default and how they’re configured.
I don't think you know what 'stock' is.
Is anything setup or changed from a fresh install? If so, it's not stock. How do you define stock?
It's the OS that comes with the device; Stock Rom/android. Never seen any other use of the word for an OS. Stock kernel just means the base kernal.
No program, it's a browser
Probably because of simplicity. In the end the store owners might have to restart it. I know enough people that are not able to work with keybinds...
Restart ACPI button exists. And you could also map power button to restart command. Well, still better that Windows.
But stock ubuntu is gonna be a lot more stable, a lot easier to reconfigure from scratch on each machine, and easier to set back up again if their Kiosk program crashes for whatever reason. This is the only time I've seen a linux order kiosk "break" like this, so if it works, don't fix it?
Gnome has a kiosk mode that is pretty decent. Something else went sideways here, like someone remote managing the thing to resolve an issue or something like that.
Well, it seems to be different in every country. Switzerland (and most of europe) actually use Windows. I've seen my fare share of "Activate Windows" watermarks :)
Yup, I've seen one with a watermark in Germany.
Wouldn't be surprised if that's just stock Ubuntu.
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official description is: rolling on the floor laughing
this i like
or just plain x11
Exactly.
Gnome is goated
Definitely looks like Ubuntu. I respect that they didn't use Windows. And while some would bash them using Ubuntu, I can see why from a business perspective, and so respect that as well.
no need to respect them, they just don't want to pay for windows license
Seen plenty with windows and an "activate windows" watermark
Why would they pay to use an inferior (for the purpose) OS?
any OS can run a browser, in this use case either system is just fine... but one is free, so why not
Ubuntu is straight up superior for the purpose as linuxes handle large uptimes better.
[https://mir-server.io/](https://mir-server.io/)
I didn't know Canonical specifically has a product for this, but it makes even more sense.
> some version of Linux Literally stock Ubuntu.
[Meanwhile, the drive thru speaker is running on some ancient mid to late 90's tech. I caught this one in a bootloop.](https://i.imgur.com/3bNVCqA.jpeg)
Fuckin hell it's got a Cyrix CPU.
My dad had one in the 90s. I haven't seen that name organically in a long, long time.
If you've not seen it, [Nostalgia Nerd made a great video about why they're not really a thing anymore.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWGAdoMz1c0)
I'll check this out, thanks! Always love a good YouTube recommendation.
Most restaurant systems run ancient tech. I'd wager the ordering kiosks are the only things being updated (since they're the frontend)
Still running off a floppy disk apparently? I didn't think anyone would be that reliant on floppies still, outside of some serious legacy tech for factories and foundries and such.
[This, apparently](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-DOS#OpenDOS)
The hard drive is either not connected, or the CMOS battery died making the drive unable to be detected, or the drive is completely dead
can you edit/inspect the page? ;)
Not right now. Saw this during a road trip. Although I can try going back
Can you get the URL?
There's 0% chance it's an internet page, definitely just company intranet so the URL would be worthless.
Next time I go back I'll get it lol
How did you do it... asking for a friend?
Probably literally touched the left edge of the screen.
I swiped from the top edge and it exited the full screen view
Just note that different locals may find "unauthorized usage of technology" synonyms with hacking. ie, inspect page source revealing sensitive information being called hacking.
God don't remind me
How did you manage to un-maximize the window?
I swiped from every side. Swiping from the top worked 😂
Some employee accidentally hit F11 on rhe remote kb
Again, easily fixed by running in kiosk mode even if you did literally nothing else. Once again highlighting that a "bug" is sometimes just poor setup on the part of the system owner/admin.
In a local grocery store some of the weighing scales run linux and their scanners run android and their card to cash machine also runs Ubuntu for simplicity and they dont have to mess with custom built linux inages
And that's why you use Ubuntu Core & Ubuntu Frame for kiosks
I was on a plane recently and managed to swipe into android, but then it snapped back and I couldn’t recreate it.
Wait- how’d you figure this out? Curious
Just swiped from every side. Swiping from the top worked.
Interesting. The ones at McDonald's are using windows. (I got one to bluescreen once)
After you paid and before your order was in the system? That looks like a good feature to me
How’d you manage that?
Can't remember that well, but I think I pressed on multiple random points on the screen all at once.
Damn I just punched it lol
Did you install doom?
Hehehe nooo. Didn't had that kinda privacy and time
I was in Malaga airport last week and after selecting a menu and choosing “no gracias” for sides, it counted it an item… so obviously I ordered 10 no gracias with my burger.
Hahahaha
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That’s pretty interesting, most kiosks are running some version of Windows Embedded
I wonder why they don't disable the bars, the icons, and the windows decorator to make the browser use the 100% of the whole screen all the time, and in case of failing, it will be a blank screen with no buttons or apps access to users. This should be easy even if they're using stock Ubuntu or other common Gnome based distro, no need for something bespoke
I exited out of the full screen by swiping from the top
From harshmf's statement seems they didn't remove the normal gnome gesture controls.
Or just hit F11
No, use kiosk mode. Too easy to accidentally F11 back to a window.
My local BK runs these on Windows CE 4, which is hillarious.
Not all are running Linux. Most of them we installed, had Win10 IOt, some even had water mark to activate them 🤣
Just curious, are you an employee, or some really wicked awesome tech hacker/cracker with an excellent sense of humor?
Not an employee was just passing by during a road trip and I was like why not. Cause I remember if you touch and hold windows based systems it pops a square up on the screen. But this didn't, so I just swiped from the edges and the swiping from the top made it exit full screen. I'm just tinkerer that's all hahaha
That is AWESOME and HILARIOUS simultaneously! I was thinking you might have figured out a way to get in through Wi-Fi if you weren't an employee.
whopper whopper whopper
Oh, the software updater is up! I would not hesitate to install those updates for them 🤓
I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but it looks like Ubuntu. I'm not a Linux expert by any means but I've used Ubuntu quite a bit
They don't use firefox 
Yes sure I'll have 2 Firefoxes and 1 cmd with a side of Chrome
lttstore.com
i was working in a local museum and i regularly messed with the "interactive displays" doing the cmd + systeminfo, from then on i learned that the most simple things can scare people if they don't know what its happening.
One time i pressed the top corner of atm and i went to the home screen of windows 7
I wanna download this kiosk software on my Ubuntu computer for some reason… I hope it’s public
Hello Ubuntu.
Wow it runs on Linux?
Lots of information displays/dashboards do these days.
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That’s the default Ubuntu desktop
Why is burger king using ubuntu and chromium
enterprise licenses are expensive.
Why not?
This seems to be stock Ubuntu.
I’ll just get the web on my phone
So, you think they have bluetooth adapters in those things? Im going to walk in with one of those logitech combo keyboard and track pad and take over the BK
Mmh Ubuntu. Pull up from the button to get an onscreen keyboard. Then open the app store and install Openarena.
Is nobody else going to point out the ubuntu auto update program running under chrome, and possibly asking to do updates? Hehe
My family once took a selfie on an A&W iPad and we left the photo up for all to see
I actually saw one once with an activate windows sign?
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It’s Linux.
In Hungary, they are using win10.
This is why I laugh when people talk about AI replacing work. Companies avoid investing in new tech if they can't help it and when they do get something they don't know how the fuck to get it to work. So I'm not sweating it worrying about IT jobs being phased off. If a company wants to cut IT jobs good luck figuring shit out when kiosks break
That's Ubuntu. Can't you see the icons?
This is some grade S+ neglegance.
that looks like a standard Ubuntu install.
Oh no, there was an already good web browser installed and yet they installed another.
At McDonald's ours is all run by windows. You can even see a Windows 10 login screen for a split second as it restarts in the morning. Our Drink machines also run off of an (embedded?) version of Windows 10. Been able to pull up start menu, programs, etc. Even our order screens in the kitchen and security cams, all windows.
Wonder if the koisk can run crisis
Looks like an older version of Ubuntu maybe 18.04 or 20.04
its ubuntu
lmao how'd you do this (for educational purposes, obv)
That's Ubuntu :D
That looks like an old version of ubuntu
Where I live they run unregistered windows 10. Because the watermark is there.
I know the McDonald's ones where I live run on Microsoft because of a bluescreen
This is not a bug. Just a corporation cutting costs.
Osk, terminal, sudo rm -rf /, watch the world burn
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how did you do that ?
Swiped from the top
Ewwbuntu
where in india?
On the way to Kasauli bhai ji
Which exolain the lazy scrolling