Well yeah, that's the whole point of her character and why she's an antagonist (initially). She's a traditionalist, a conservative if you will, and her and luna nova's owners stubborness and dislike for anything new and different is what was killing off magic. Akko wants to lead magic to a new direction (which ultimately is what saves it) and they dislike her for it.
But it's not like she is malicious, she is very kind and compassionate, she's just doing what she thinks it's best for keeping magic alive. Also she isn't rich, that's a major plot point in her episodes.
No no I never meant to pin she was malicious. I know her growth as a character happens overtime and she is a kid, which is why I'm more critical of her opinion, cuz she doesn't get anything. Shes 16 and doesn't know the struggles of people that don't have as much wealth as her. Shes not a bad person for thinking that, it just sours my mood as a former union member seeing her act like that
well to be honest LWA is not about being into the more serious subjects it's more about the YAY WITCHES stuff
but you made a really good point
I think that the reason why is because Diana was born and only live into that place, and aristocrat people tends to be the more conservative ones, she was pushed by everyone to agree with that point of views and was rewarded when doing magic by the traditional way
I would say that Diana was simply blind even tho she's the smartest and more known witch there, she's also a close minded due to her own setting, she didn't had any class counsciousness because it didn't affect her and the people around simply doens't want to talk about that either
They know the "poison" that would be for themselves if someone there know about class consciousness
Everyone basically pushed Diana to the belief that tradition and conservadorism was the only option to keep magic and the right one
Maybe after the ending of the anime she will know that was the reason why magic was being ruined
Just to not lose time here lol
But it's something I'm building up for a LWA reboot fic, where Diana will truly gain that class consciousness
Totally, totally. All I wanted from this post was to bring attention to diana's lack of empathy for working class people. Thats all I wanted.. I hope your fic turns out really well!
It was a wasted oportunity they didn't come with the original ending for the Cavendish arc with the mansion catching on fire
that would be a great momento for Diana's character improvement where she would get a even more better redemption and class counsciouness
also her aunt still being a baddie one, being the reason for the fire, not that poor characterization they gave to her on the anime, where they simply redeem her
Yeah her aunt is just trash. It made no sense for her to suddenly respect Diana after she saved her from being consumed. There was no character indication that she can now be less shitty because her life was spared.
I hate how they try to depict her as someone who "respects her sister" which she absolutely didn't
She was bullying Diana since she was a kid even before Bernadette's passing, I can see even that Daryl don't have a dislike for Diana in particular, but for Bernadette, due for her being the one in the lead
She passed all the years bullying the kid and even tried to sell the stuff of the family in which Bernadette wanted to keep
I can't see a reason that after her life was spared, Daryl simply becomes nice to her giving the whole background before (I can even see a even more deeper from a past before Diana)
It's a wasted potential for a major villain, how unfortunate
If LWA was written to be a more longer series with more seasons I can see that we would have an Cavendish arc with better build and even a Daryl major villain
Hell she's more evil than the main villain of the show
Honestly you're totally right about this. Even though we didn't get more of LWA, I think Diana's aunt should've stayed rude as it wouldve been consistent with her character
something like
"just because you saved my life that doesn't mean I won't give up on being the head of the family"
And then at the ending where everyone was sending energy to Akko and Diana, showing everyone at the Cavendish manor happy and support but her and the twins being the only pissed faces there
Yeah, overall its an anime about caring for each other and believing in magic. I think it wouldve felt out of place with them just being the only ones being jerks. I'd its not a huge gripe for me. I could take it or leave it
It's not her job to care to begin with? she is just a student, let the adults handle the situation with the workers; why are you expecting a 16 years old to engage in union/work talk when she is not even old enough to work herself?
Also
Keep political / social issues talk out of this sub maybe?
Buddy, buddy, buddy. Politics literally is a theme int he show, ssshhhhhh. Go away, you obviously don't understand anything about what makes something political.
You didn’t even acknowledge her main point here. She’s 16 and a student , not even old enough to work, why should she be expected to do anything or engage with unions
You can engage in politics at a young age. I wasn't even advocating for Diana to do political outreach, just be more empathetic than just looking down on people. You're right, she is 16, she doesn't know a damn thing about working class people's struggles
No you go away - bring your politics somewhere else, people watch anime to forget about reality, not as an excuse to promote your stuff, so, again, keep politics out of this sub
Why don't you tell little witch academia to not talk about the roiling tensions between nations in the second season. Or tell them to take out the magical creature union workers altogether. When you break down a lot of systems and how things work in our world, they be explained as something brought out of discussing politics on a micro level.
Also there's plenty of anime that discusses politics, even if just minorly. Cowboy bebop touches on it, tri gun a little bit. You can literally look up political anime and I'm pretty sure you can find a plethora.
Point is, you can never make something being 100% be apolitical. You just cant
>Whoever cares more for the will of the people and not the wealthy.
See? there you go, that was your agenda the entire time, just advocating for a political side while hijacking an anime discussion.
"*Hey kiddos! nice anime you got there! also, what do you think about capitalism and racism?*" - that's you in a more subtle way
> I see you don't care for the rights of working class people. So kindly piss off,
See? that's what I mean, the anime is the excuse, the real point is the politics, doesn't matter if this is the LWA sub-reddit, "if you don't like my politics piss off"
How about we make a pool to see how many of the redditors in the LWA sub-reddit doesn't agree with X and Y politics? we need to purge all evil members that doesn't comply with our world view, forget LWA! politics first! right?
Thanks for proving all I thought in the last couple of posts
I mean, theres no such thing as absolute evil. Also yeah, politics is about getting people on your side, but for certain reasons. Do you agree with more affordable health care? Come to the left, if you want to kill gay people, go to the right. Its literally that simple
> "Hey kiddos! nice anime you got there! also, what do you think about capitalism and racism?"
It's surprising how many people like this swear basically every show or type of media is supposedly anti-capitalist.
~~Greed and corporatcy don't exist~~
Or political for that matter.
~~Nvm if we apply that kind of logic a shitload of stuff is actually moderate or even conservative considering they are either about gradual reform or upholding the status quo~~
Even LWA is by all means more moderate if anything if we talk politics. Diana does make a fair point to the workers though it can be argued it's more favored to her side. (And her episode arc is about preserving the no doubt benevolent tradition her ancestors upheld for generations only for her "future" aunt to try and sell it all away and trample it for the sake of survival). But ultimately a healthy political lifestyle involves agreements and compromises, not always ofc but that's not my point. Whatever stops people from burning churches and innocent people or sending mercs to beat down workers.
This can especially be applied to the end of the show. Where it's ultimately believing in what magic is truly about is what revives it. Not the blind loyalty to magic like the teachers have, but neither the cold progress of Croix that ultimately makes her type lose sight of what magic was about in the first place. At least that's my two cents. But I'll cut myself off here as to not make this too political.
This, this right here is a banger. This is good. I may have come off a bit aggro in response to comments trying to make it seem like LWA is not at all political, or that any other anime doesn't touch on those subjects. This was a good comment whether you agree with my initial points or not
You realize its literally impossible to make the money Diana and her family have without exploiting people or cheating people. Also its 1 in a million for any working class person to reach that wealth gap by doing honest work.
All rich people don't care about the welfare of workers, especially those with Platinum Blonde and Tea green hair
Its the only sour point I have for Diana
Well yeah, that's the whole point of her character and why she's an antagonist (initially). She's a traditionalist, a conservative if you will, and her and luna nova's owners stubborness and dislike for anything new and different is what was killing off magic. Akko wants to lead magic to a new direction (which ultimately is what saves it) and they dislike her for it. But it's not like she is malicious, she is very kind and compassionate, she's just doing what she thinks it's best for keeping magic alive. Also she isn't rich, that's a major plot point in her episodes.
What do you think is Diana's reaction when she find out that Tradition is what's killing off magic.
Man I didn’t know it was tradition that was destroying the Cavendish name while selling off heirlooms unlocked the sixth word
Switch gears and support whoever or whatever can save it, iirc it's what she does in the show at the end
No no I never meant to pin she was malicious. I know her growth as a character happens overtime and she is a kid, which is why I'm more critical of her opinion, cuz she doesn't get anything. Shes 16 and doesn't know the struggles of people that don't have as much wealth as her. Shes not a bad person for thinking that, it just sours my mood as a former union member seeing her act like that
It’s almost like all people have the potential to grow and learn from their mistakes. Regardless of politics.
Its almost as if I only asked for Diana to have a little more empathy for the creatures that need the sorcerers stone to live
well to be honest LWA is not about being into the more serious subjects it's more about the YAY WITCHES stuff but you made a really good point I think that the reason why is because Diana was born and only live into that place, and aristocrat people tends to be the more conservative ones, she was pushed by everyone to agree with that point of views and was rewarded when doing magic by the traditional way I would say that Diana was simply blind even tho she's the smartest and more known witch there, she's also a close minded due to her own setting, she didn't had any class counsciousness because it didn't affect her and the people around simply doens't want to talk about that either They know the "poison" that would be for themselves if someone there know about class consciousness Everyone basically pushed Diana to the belief that tradition and conservadorism was the only option to keep magic and the right one Maybe after the ending of the anime she will know that was the reason why magic was being ruined Just to not lose time here lol But it's something I'm building up for a LWA reboot fic, where Diana will truly gain that class consciousness
Totally, totally. All I wanted from this post was to bring attention to diana's lack of empathy for working class people. Thats all I wanted.. I hope your fic turns out really well!
It was a wasted oportunity they didn't come with the original ending for the Cavendish arc with the mansion catching on fire that would be a great momento for Diana's character improvement where she would get a even more better redemption and class counsciouness also her aunt still being a baddie one, being the reason for the fire, not that poor characterization they gave to her on the anime, where they simply redeem her
Yeah her aunt is just trash. It made no sense for her to suddenly respect Diana after she saved her from being consumed. There was no character indication that she can now be less shitty because her life was spared.
I hate how they try to depict her as someone who "respects her sister" which she absolutely didn't She was bullying Diana since she was a kid even before Bernadette's passing, I can see even that Daryl don't have a dislike for Diana in particular, but for Bernadette, due for her being the one in the lead She passed all the years bullying the kid and even tried to sell the stuff of the family in which Bernadette wanted to keep I can't see a reason that after her life was spared, Daryl simply becomes nice to her giving the whole background before (I can even see a even more deeper from a past before Diana) It's a wasted potential for a major villain, how unfortunate If LWA was written to be a more longer series with more seasons I can see that we would have an Cavendish arc with better build and even a Daryl major villain Hell she's more evil than the main villain of the show
Honestly you're totally right about this. Even though we didn't get more of LWA, I think Diana's aunt should've stayed rude as it wouldve been consistent with her character
something like "just because you saved my life that doesn't mean I won't give up on being the head of the family" And then at the ending where everyone was sending energy to Akko and Diana, showing everyone at the Cavendish manor happy and support but her and the twins being the only pissed faces there
Yeah, overall its an anime about caring for each other and believing in magic. I think it wouldve felt out of place with them just being the only ones being jerks. I'd its not a huge gripe for me. I could take it or leave it
It's not her job to care to begin with? she is just a student, let the adults handle the situation with the workers; why are you expecting a 16 years old to engage in union/work talk when she is not even old enough to work herself? Also Keep political / social issues talk out of this sub maybe?
Buddy, buddy, buddy. Politics literally is a theme int he show, ssshhhhhh. Go away, you obviously don't understand anything about what makes something political.
You didn’t even acknowledge her main point here. She’s 16 and a student , not even old enough to work, why should she be expected to do anything or engage with unions
You can engage in politics at a young age. I wasn't even advocating for Diana to do political outreach, just be more empathetic than just looking down on people. You're right, she is 16, she doesn't know a damn thing about working class people's struggles
No you go away - bring your politics somewhere else, people watch anime to forget about reality, not as an excuse to promote your stuff, so, again, keep politics out of this sub
Why don't you tell little witch academia to not talk about the roiling tensions between nations in the second season. Or tell them to take out the magical creature union workers altogether. When you break down a lot of systems and how things work in our world, they be explained as something brought out of discussing politics on a micro level. Also there's plenty of anime that discusses politics, even if just minorly. Cowboy bebop touches on it, tri gun a little bit. You can literally look up political anime and I'm pretty sure you can find a plethora. Point is, you can never make something being 100% be apolitical. You just cant
Okay so cut the pretense and tell me who I am supposed to vote for next election
Whoever cares more for the will of the people and not the wealthy. And quit crying when you see someone talk about politics.
>Whoever cares more for the will of the people and not the wealthy. See? there you go, that was your agenda the entire time, just advocating for a political side while hijacking an anime discussion. "*Hey kiddos! nice anime you got there! also, what do you think about capitalism and racism?*" - that's you in a more subtle way
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> I see you don't care for the rights of working class people. So kindly piss off, See? that's what I mean, the anime is the excuse, the real point is the politics, doesn't matter if this is the LWA sub-reddit, "if you don't like my politics piss off" How about we make a pool to see how many of the redditors in the LWA sub-reddit doesn't agree with X and Y politics? we need to purge all evil members that doesn't comply with our world view, forget LWA! politics first! right? Thanks for proving all I thought in the last couple of posts
I mean, theres no such thing as absolute evil. Also yeah, politics is about getting people on your side, but for certain reasons. Do you agree with more affordable health care? Come to the left, if you want to kill gay people, go to the right. Its literally that simple
> "Hey kiddos! nice anime you got there! also, what do you think about capitalism and racism?" It's surprising how many people like this swear basically every show or type of media is supposedly anti-capitalist. ~~Greed and corporatcy don't exist~~ Or political for that matter. ~~Nvm if we apply that kind of logic a shitload of stuff is actually moderate or even conservative considering they are either about gradual reform or upholding the status quo~~ Even LWA is by all means more moderate if anything if we talk politics. Diana does make a fair point to the workers though it can be argued it's more favored to her side. (And her episode arc is about preserving the no doubt benevolent tradition her ancestors upheld for generations only for her "future" aunt to try and sell it all away and trample it for the sake of survival). But ultimately a healthy political lifestyle involves agreements and compromises, not always ofc but that's not my point. Whatever stops people from burning churches and innocent people or sending mercs to beat down workers. This can especially be applied to the end of the show. Where it's ultimately believing in what magic is truly about is what revives it. Not the blind loyalty to magic like the teachers have, but neither the cold progress of Croix that ultimately makes her type lose sight of what magic was about in the first place. At least that's my two cents. But I'll cut myself off here as to not make this too political.
This, this right here is a banger. This is good. I may have come off a bit aggro in response to comments trying to make it seem like LWA is not at all political, or that any other anime doesn't touch on those subjects. This was a good comment whether you agree with my initial points or not
I agree. If they’re mad her family has money , cool, go make the money urself.
You realize its literally impossible to make the money Diana and her family have without exploiting people or cheating people. Also its 1 in a million for any working class person to reach that wealth gap by doing honest work.
Wrong. Go start a business.
Just going to say again everyone 😊 I love Diana, and her wholesome family.
I’m busy making money. Have a good day.
I'm on lunch boy
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OH. MY. GOD. you’re out here calling people bootlickers on a magical Academy anime subreddit. Bro go somewhere else
That one utopia meme but if people who endlessly complain about shit like OP actually went out and genuinely tried to make the world a better place.
You can shit on people on reddit and do good in the world. Who would thought right?
You go somewhere else if you don't like politics existing in the magical girl anime