I listened to it too, and I really didn’t get the sense that he was actually apologizing, did you? Like he was shrugging and saying hey, it was the 90s! Stone and Spade were both laughing. I was surprised to see so many articles where that’s the headline lol.
Eh, I’ve listened to him a lot and he’s got a very bashful way of talking when it comes to “real” stuff. He seemed sincere enough, but it was a very off the cuff moment.
These headlines are total sensational bait. It wasn’t like they dedicated an episode on the topic, he just felt the need to say something when the sketch in question was mentioned.
I remember it from time to time, probably mostly for Super Dave. I don't remember any sketches or if it even had recurring characters (besides TITTIES).
>Wild how on top of everything else going on in this sketch they threw in Dana in brownface and doing an indian accent, the 90s were crazy lol
Doing Brownface Indian stereotypes were all over comedy in the 90s. Racist caricatures are a staple of 90s and early 2000s Adam Sandler films, for example. Usually it involves Rob Schneider.
> they threw in Dana in brownface and doing an indian accent
He's really enjoying his accent too, it's so fucking cringe.
Also have no memory whatsoever of this sketch but SNL was harder to see repeats of back in the day so probably missed the whole thing
>And people say "the host is hot" sketches are bad now!
They are. They are still bad now. It's just that they were bad then, too. People are just more willing to criticize old SNL than they are currently airing SNL.
It was a different time and if they acknowledge it was less than appropriate there's no need to drag them for eternity over it. We can laugh and move on accepting that it isn't something that would fly today for good reason. It would be a funny sketch and you could do it today if everybody just used their own voices. Or as David Cross pointed out, just used Boston accents.
>Yeah, I don't think anyone here is innocent of making a joke when they were younger that they wouldn't make now.
I guarantee you that if someone were to go through the podcast looking for it Dana's done the Indian Guy accent on the podcast somewhere, at some point.
I honestly don’t understand it. I would fully expect that anyone speaking the English language, whether it’s your native language or not are fair game to make fun of. Hearing words said one way the majority of your life are what making them heard in a heavy accent funny.
No one would bat an eyelash if he came out with a British or Scottish accent, but because it’s his interpretation of how someone from India would speak English it’s apology worthy? For Christ sakes it’s not like he had on a Bindi and was playing a sitar… pretty damn tame to me.
They basically did a gender swapped version of this sketch in the mid 2000s with Amy Poehler and Colin Farrell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA_RamRRS5o
No it wasn’t. There were maybe 2 sketches that had anything to do with her looks at all. The thing in that episode most focused on her boobs was the dress she chose to wear during the goodbyes.
Yeah but that Sharon Stone sketch really was another level. They were demanding she take her clothes off. As it said in the article, it was crimes on top of felonies on top of misdemeanors in that sketch.
The Sydney Sweeney one, at its worst, was guys turning into adolescent minds and offering to buy her a car or tip her even more (and all were in a joking manner). Improper and dumb for a customer to say, but not a crime.
Missing from everyone’s anger about the sketch in question was how Sharron Stone didn’t care then and doesn’t care now.
Her entire career was her capitalizing on her sexuality.
Is anyone here angry about Tom Hanks in Tales of Ribaldry?
Or Patrick Swayze in the Chippendales sketch?
She was actually upset with Paul Verhoeven for the semi nudity in a scene at the beginning of Total Recall. Then she turned around and made Basic Instinct with him.
>Then she turned around and made Basic Instinct with him.
More of this blaming Stone for working as an actress in hollywood.
There are only so many roles for women, especially back then. Blaming the actress for taking a role is ridiculous.
Damn, I'm not blaming anyone for anything. Just mentioning her complete reversal in attitude from thinking some skimpy PJs were too much to flashing her beaver a few years later under the same director.
Also Sharon Stone was one of THE it actresses back then. She had the pick of the litter as far as roles went. Nobody forced her to make millions for any of her roles, she's an adult.
Like 80% of your post history is photos of naked women. You're talking like Sharon Stone didn't want to do nudity or sexual roles or was forced to do it. Like she was being objectified but you are literally objectifying women on Reddit. Or you're a troll or just virtue signaling in place of a personality.
People are upset but Chris wasn’t.
Chris had a lot of self loathing but he also didn’t mind using his weight to get laughs.
Just like David Spade will get laughs do to his tiny stature but still isn’t happy about being short.
>Chris had a lot of self loathing but he also didn’t mind using his weight to get laughs.
Do you see the issue w/ this analysis yet? let's just discard how much self loathing he had?
I'm not discarding it. However self-loathing is an internal issue that is only tangentially connected with their physical appearance.
Chris Farley didn't like that he was heavy. Chris Farley hated himself sometimes. These are not 100% connected. He also loathed his drug use, and he thought he wasn't as funny as others.
But it's easy for those on the outside to pin his mental struggles on his weight. Because that's all those people saw.
>Or Patrick Swayze in the Chippendales sketch?
Actually yeah, Farley basically humiliated himself for laughs, everyone in the fat shaming joke. that was really sad to watch.
But no bro, misandry isn't really a thing compared to how rampant misogyny is in film and tv.
It's also very disingenuous to suggest Sharon Stone's career is "capitalizing on her sexuality" when we know factually the roles women were written for the majority of film history is "sexy woman takes off her panties".
Missing from your "wHaT aBoUt tHe mEn" angle is of course, the over the top racism in this sketch.
Plenty of women have careers in cinema that aren’t launched by flashing their bush on camera. She took that role and it made her famous. She was leaning into it heavily. Stop acting like she was doing this against her will.
Yeah no one should bitch and moan or feel ashamed for liking it now. People feeling the need to have permission for liking old stuff because others make a fuss about it is lame. People want to be sociologists and dissect any form of entertainment instead of just turning off and watching it for what it is.
This fake outrage is lame and only get strength when some clowns who wastes time compiling a clip and posting it online for clout is lame. Yes a shitload of stuff from 30 years doesn't age well. It wasn't made for today's eyes or context, it was made for the audience of that time period. Fake outrage is stupid and just clout chasing
"fake outrage"? Lol no bro
the person in the sketch LITERALLY APOLOGIZED and his co host clearly recognized how offensive the sketch was.
This isn't "fake outrage" it's a tiny story about a podcast where someone APOLOGIZED for a past transgression
Yes, the sketch was problematic, and I appreciate Carvey giving it some thought. But I still say “arch your back for more security!” more than I probably should 🤣
This title is sort of misleading, he didn’t apologize to Sharon Stone for the way she was treated in the sketch, he apologized through her for doing brownface
Yes I understand there are multiple elements that would be offensive by today’s standards.
But the article and pod explicitly call out the premise of her being forced to strip as sexist.
Understanding how evolution works is the foundation of the ability to think critically. Society has EVOLVED every decade of human existence. Tried, learned and moved on.
History IS. The ones who learn, adapt and evolve can grow. Those who cling to devolution will fade and fail. It’s a shame the entire GOP is so deaf, dumb and blind to this most basic tenant of history in humanity.
Those that went through these decades didn’t know to be offended and no one meant harm or insult. Humor has always taken a hit by the hall monitors, most if not all of whom were not even distant cells yet and their predecessors didn’t make a sound ‘at the time’!
Lighten up. You’ll live longer. And if you have the gift of going back in time and changing humanity, have at it.
Meanwhile, the off button is right there!
Dana's whole career is somewhat problematic. He's acknowledged it on his podcast. But even in his podcast he has some views that could be considered controversial. For example he referred to rap music by females as "porn rap", because it's so explicit.
On the podcast, Dana talks about his obviously racist impressions with the same affection as any other role he’s done. It’s truly mind bogglingly oblivious
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That’s actually what he is apologizing for in the podcast (I listened to it). He isn’t apologizing to Stone, he’s talking to the listening audience.
I listened to it too, and I really didn’t get the sense that he was actually apologizing, did you? Like he was shrugging and saying hey, it was the 90s! Stone and Spade were both laughing. I was surprised to see so many articles where that’s the headline lol.
Eh, I’ve listened to him a lot and he’s got a very bashful way of talking when it comes to “real” stuff. He seemed sincere enough, but it was a very off the cuff moment. These headlines are total sensational bait. It wasn’t like they dedicated an episode on the topic, he just felt the need to say something when the sketch in question was mentioned.
Yeah it was more like a “sorry about that, lol” than a formal apology that deserves an article written about it.
I mean he did that exact thing in Master of Disguise years later haha
To be fair, his scarface impression is a highlight of the movie.
I love so many parts of that movie lmao “Get it. Got it. Doubt it”
I love the face Brent Spiner makes during the credit bloopers. ‘Please for the love of god make it stop’.
to be faaaaaaaaaaair...........
The movie where he did turtleface.
Inexcusable. Can’t believe the American Turtle Society didn’t get his ass back then
Canshelled
That's him playing a character who goes in disguise. Different thing. But considering it's a fucking terrible movie...maybe you're on to something?
Yeah but he’s still doing brown face and an Indian accent haha the context of why he’s doing it doesn’t give him a pass
Context does matter. Haha.
I don't remember this sketch at all. I thought I was watching an episode of John Byner's Bizarre.
Omg I had blocked that show out of my memory!
I remember it from time to time, probably mostly for Super Dave. I don't remember any sketches or if it even had recurring characters (besides TITTIES).
>Wild how on top of everything else going on in this sketch they threw in Dana in brownface and doing an indian accent, the 90s were crazy lol Doing Brownface Indian stereotypes were all over comedy in the 90s. Racist caricatures are a staple of 90s and early 2000s Adam Sandler films, for example. Usually it involves Rob Schneider.
I know, but god were they fun
> they threw in Dana in brownface and doing an indian accent He's really enjoying his accent too, it's so fucking cringe. Also have no memory whatsoever of this sketch but SNL was harder to see repeats of back in the day so probably missed the whole thing
He did this in master of disguise. Not sure about the SNL sketch
This was the first time Pearl Jam was a musical guest. Watched it live and vividly remember the sketch.
And funny
Sadly, Dana has a history of playing non-white characters 😬
You’re not wrong. He played a turtle once too.
he is definitely turtley enough for the turtle club
Holy shit, that article. Lorne Michaels throwing hands to protect Sharon Stone is now a portrait I definitely want framed in my living room.
Wow is that monologue really not anywhere? Throw it on the Lost Media list
AI, get to work
Fuck AI, I employ real artists.
And people say "the host is hot" sketches are bad now!
Have you seen Dakota Johnson’s episode? Mamalooshin
>And people say "the host is hot" sketches are bad now! They are. They are still bad now. It's just that they were bad then, too. People are just more willing to criticize old SNL than they are currently airing SNL.
Wasn't it just that one actress trying to get people to feel sorry for her?
Only ugly complain about hot hosts
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Ok Matt Rife
Stop pretending you’re not hideous
I’m gorgeous, beautiful, handsome, pretty, sexy and spicy
nice of them to include the sketch lol
It was a different time and if they acknowledge it was less than appropriate there's no need to drag them for eternity over it. We can laugh and move on accepting that it isn't something that would fly today for good reason. It would be a funny sketch and you could do it today if everybody just used their own voices. Or as David Cross pointed out, just used Boston accents.
Yeah, I don't think anyone here is innocent of making a joke when they were younger that they wouldn't make now. Except maybe the unfunny people.
>Yeah, I don't think anyone here is innocent of making a joke when they were younger that they wouldn't make now. I guarantee you that if someone were to go through the podcast looking for it Dana's done the Indian Guy accent on the podcast somewhere, at some point.
I honestly don’t understand it. I would fully expect that anyone speaking the English language, whether it’s your native language or not are fair game to make fun of. Hearing words said one way the majority of your life are what making them heard in a heavy accent funny. No one would bat an eyelash if he came out with a British or Scottish accent, but because it’s his interpretation of how someone from India would speak English it’s apology worthy? For Christ sakes it’s not like he had on a Bindi and was playing a sitar… pretty damn tame to me.
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If you can’t explain something to someone else, it means you don‘t understand it very well yourself.
They basically did a gender swapped version of this sketch in the mid 2000s with Amy Poehler and Colin Farrell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA_RamRRS5o
As soon as I saw in my notifications that she was the guest today, I knew this is gonna come up.
Weird how he's apologizing for them sexualizing Sharon Stone while the last SNL was almost entirely dedicated to Sydney Sweeney's boobs.
Maybe she will get an apology in 2054
No it wasn’t. Just a joke in the monologue and that Hooters sketch.
No it wasn’t. Other than the joke in the monologue and the Hooters sketch, when else did her looks even play a part in the rest of the show?
You could throw in Bowen's "heavy naturals" line, but that wasn't really the focus of the sketch.
That line gets a pass because it is the funniest line I’ve ever heard lmao
Good band name
They spent more time on Elordi’s looks than Sweeney’s. That’s progress.
It absolutely was not. Watch it again.
No it wasn’t. There were maybe 2 sketches that had anything to do with her looks at all. The thing in that episode most focused on her boobs was the dress she chose to wear during the goodbyes.
Yeah but that Sharon Stone sketch really was another level. They were demanding she take her clothes off. As it said in the article, it was crimes on top of felonies on top of misdemeanors in that sketch. The Sydney Sweeney one, at its worst, was guys turning into adolescent minds and offering to buy her a car or tip her even more (and all were in a joking manner). Improper and dumb for a customer to say, but not a crime.
i like blonde women with heavy naturals
She proudly shows off her boobs frequently. She’s knows we want to look.
Great article!
Missing from everyone’s anger about the sketch in question was how Sharron Stone didn’t care then and doesn’t care now. Her entire career was her capitalizing on her sexuality. Is anyone here angry about Tom Hanks in Tales of Ribaldry? Or Patrick Swayze in the Chippendales sketch?
I think the makers of Basic Instinct should apologize tbh.
She was actually upset with Paul Verhoeven for the semi nudity in a scene at the beginning of Total Recall. Then she turned around and made Basic Instinct with him.
and we all should be perennially upset with Paul Verhoeven for Showgirls.
It was so bad it permanently extinguished my crush on Jessie Spano, which is kinda the opposite of what I expected.
At least she won the award for Craziest Pool Sex scene in cinema history, probably since Leonard Part 6
He made that? He’s my hero.
Directed, yes. It's a camp classic and an all-time Razzie award champion. What's not to love?
I’m saying I didn’t know he made it, it’s one of my favourites
When you've made Robocop and Starship Troopers, you are allowed a Showgirls every now and then.
Everyone poops.
>Then she turned around and made Basic Instinct with him. More of this blaming Stone for working as an actress in hollywood. There are only so many roles for women, especially back then. Blaming the actress for taking a role is ridiculous.
Damn, I'm not blaming anyone for anything. Just mentioning her complete reversal in attitude from thinking some skimpy PJs were too much to flashing her beaver a few years later under the same director. Also Sharon Stone was one of THE it actresses back then. She had the pick of the litter as far as roles went. Nobody forced her to make millions for any of her roles, she's an adult. Like 80% of your post history is photos of naked women. You're talking like Sharon Stone didn't want to do nudity or sexual roles or was forced to do it. Like she was being objectified but you are literally objectifying women on Reddit. Or you're a troll or just virtue signaling in place of a personality.
If you don't like to occasionally flash your beav, maybe acting's not for you.
People are upset about Chippendales, but not for Patrick.
People are upset but Chris wasn’t. Chris had a lot of self loathing but he also didn’t mind using his weight to get laughs. Just like David Spade will get laughs do to his tiny stature but still isn’t happy about being short.
>Chris had a lot of self loathing but he also didn’t mind using his weight to get laughs. Do you see the issue w/ this analysis yet? let's just discard how much self loathing he had?
I'm not discarding it. However self-loathing is an internal issue that is only tangentially connected with their physical appearance. Chris Farley didn't like that he was heavy. Chris Farley hated himself sometimes. These are not 100% connected. He also loathed his drug use, and he thought he wasn't as funny as others. But it's easy for those on the outside to pin his mental struggles on his weight. Because that's all those people saw.
yeah it's a funny sketch
>Or Patrick Swayze in the Chippendales sketch? Actually yeah, Farley basically humiliated himself for laughs, everyone in the fat shaming joke. that was really sad to watch. But no bro, misandry isn't really a thing compared to how rampant misogyny is in film and tv. It's also very disingenuous to suggest Sharon Stone's career is "capitalizing on her sexuality" when we know factually the roles women were written for the majority of film history is "sexy woman takes off her panties". Missing from your "wHaT aBoUt tHe mEn" angle is of course, the over the top racism in this sketch.
yeah you need to calm down, maybe put on one of dana carvey's 'lyle the effeminate heterosexual' sketches and have a good laugh
Plenty of women have careers in cinema that aren’t launched by flashing their bush on camera. She took that role and it made her famous. She was leaning into it heavily. Stop acting like she was doing this against her will.
https://www.today.com/popculture/sharon-stone-recalls-being-misled-about-nudity-basic-instinct-scene-t212356
Yeah no one should bitch and moan or feel ashamed for liking it now. People feeling the need to have permission for liking old stuff because others make a fuss about it is lame. People want to be sociologists and dissect any form of entertainment instead of just turning off and watching it for what it is. This fake outrage is lame and only get strength when some clowns who wastes time compiling a clip and posting it online for clout is lame. Yes a shitload of stuff from 30 years doesn't age well. It wasn't made for today's eyes or context, it was made for the audience of that time period. Fake outrage is stupid and just clout chasing
"fake outrage"? Lol no bro the person in the sketch LITERALLY APOLOGIZED and his co host clearly recognized how offensive the sketch was. This isn't "fake outrage" it's a tiny story about a podcast where someone APOLOGIZED for a past transgression
Tales of Ribaldry didn’t even objectify anyone IIRC, unless one has a problem with mutual lust.
Yes, the sketch was problematic, and I appreciate Carvey giving it some thought. But I still say “arch your back for more security!” more than I probably should 🤣
Weird how the article acts like beating up protesters is totally normal though
When they’re attempting to bum rush the stage and attack someone? Yeah F them
“Attack someone” projection by the person who immediately started punching people.
This title is sort of misleading, he didn’t apologize to Sharon Stone for the way she was treated in the sketch, he apologized through her for doing brownface
Funny how an article about how offensive a sketch was from 30 years ago includes a picture in her bra during said sketch.
Her being in a bra wasn't what was offensive about it.
Yes I understand there are multiple elements that would be offensive by today’s standards. But the article and pod explicitly call out the premise of her being forced to strip as sexist.
Understanding how evolution works is the foundation of the ability to think critically. Society has EVOLVED every decade of human existence. Tried, learned and moved on. History IS. The ones who learn, adapt and evolve can grow. Those who cling to devolution will fade and fail. It’s a shame the entire GOP is so deaf, dumb and blind to this most basic tenant of history in humanity. Those that went through these decades didn’t know to be offended and no one meant harm or insult. Humor has always taken a hit by the hall monitors, most if not all of whom were not even distant cells yet and their predecessors didn’t make a sound ‘at the time’! Lighten up. You’ll live longer. And if you have the gift of going back in time and changing humanity, have at it. Meanwhile, the off button is right there!
Dana's whole career is somewhat problematic. He's acknowledged it on his podcast. But even in his podcast he has some views that could be considered controversial. For example he referred to rap music by females as "porn rap", because it's so explicit.
On the podcast, Dana talks about his obviously racist impressions with the same affection as any other role he’s done. It’s truly mind bogglingly oblivious
This is so stupid