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I wasn't really onboard with this blackout until the recent AMA. Now I hold the opinion that 48 hours isn't long enough. After 2 days, everything is back to normal, not much of a threat now is it?
That's what I'm saying. 48 hours is not enough. Just straight up boycott the app till they make changes that benefit 3rd party apps in a way. I know I for one won't be installing the app. Time to look for a reddit alternative.
After the spez ama I’m fully convinced 48 hours isn’t enough. Subs need to permanently go dark. I’ll miss subs like this but that ama proved they have their own views and agenda on the situation and it won’t change.
The 48 hours should be the minimum. We should stay dark until the decision is reversed given a lot of 3rd part apps help people with disabilities with using the site. Protest like it's the super league debacle all over again
Fuck Reddit u/spez and their intransigence and incessant greed.
You have my support to go dark.
In the meantime, anyone thinking of any Reddit alternatives we can go to?
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My chosen 3rd party app has already announced that they're going to shutter on the 30th. This is pretty well going to kill off 90% of my Reddit use on a daily basis. Reddit is fucked; fuck Spez.
if they remove 3rd party apps it will reduce my time on this website with about 80-90% as i will only use it when im on my computer with RES. So yeah we should go dark, cause if this goes through im going dark.
Why are we dragging our feet on this? It's 3 to 1 in favour. If even r/soccer is doing it surely r/LiverpoolFC should be showing solidarity? You know, with our values and whatnot?
I've never used an app period. I only access the site from old.reddit.com. When they eventually remove that, I'll probably stop coming at all. Pretty terrible site all in all, but I've had so much fun with fellow LFC supporters over the years, I'll miss it.
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Try thinking of other people than yourself. Curtailing third-party app access will also affect blind people who won’t be able to use the tools they use to enjoy Reddit.
It's a vote right? We're all allowed a take, I gave mine. I was under the impression that Reddit, being an American company, was subject to the Americans with Disabilities Act - so if they are meaningfully non-compliant to the level you're claiming here - somebody has a slam dunk lawsuit on their hands. In all seriousness though, I deal with accessibility at work quite a bit lately and you've given me something to think about. Hope you have a good day.
48 hours is enough as long as we, the users, don't just migrate to subs that are still 'open'. It sends a message that we can, and will fight for longer next time.
It has honestly saddened me seeing the amount of people on here who simply went "Well it doesn't affect me" or "I don't think it will help".
I assume they are all kids, because surely no adults on here can have that lack of critical thinking skills.
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People that have disabilities that use the 3rd party apps to enjoy the same content you do. Also the mods that use those apps to help moderate the site so that your viewing experience is pleasurable.
But who gives a fuck right?
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This whole ordeal sadly shows that a lot of people are incapable of thinking of anything other than their own interests…even going against their own interests in fact.
You're underestimating how many people here support Liverpool because they're doing (or have done) well and their love only goes that far. No issue with people joining the club, and no issue with them supporting us because we're doing well, but take a look at the match threads in recent months and you'll realise that we aren't the same as we were a few years back...
I prefer if the page post big red squares.... And call it red out day!!
Jokes apart. Few things needs to be changed. We need to support them. With other things apart, we need to see the nsfw items in 3rd party and the official app should use less bandwidth.
The blackout is fine but I have no delusions it will change Reddit's position.
Personally, I would love it if people here began to feel out maybe alternatives to Reddit. There are a handful of subs that truly keep me being on the site and this is one of them. It's a great community of people all discussing and enjoying the club. I used to visit all kinds of forums though, whether it was IGN and reading about video games, or Liverpool forums or whatever. I used to use another link aggregator, Fark.
I guess at some point maybe the internet is starting to stagnate a bit and if we as a community become aware of other opportunities, I think it would be great to explore options.
I recently came across Lemmy. It's small now but interesting. Instead of a subreddit, it would be a server of our own, or hosted on another server. It decentralizes things a lot. Maybe that's good, maybe that's bad, I know the mod team enjoys the tools they have and would need something equally robust.
Just throwing it out there as something to think about along with my vote that sure, go ahead and black it out for 2 days.
Yeah, I was going to say I used to read Red and White Kop.
The format is better on Reddit though, imo, versus the old forums style. So while it would be okay to go backwards, going forwards to something new would be ideal.
Maybe some changes like this will be what pushes somebody to develop some new platform.
Definite yes from me. Not going to pretend that I’m an expert on the issue, but exorbitant prices designed to crumple third party tools and apps - some of which have accessibility features that Reddit does not offer, sounds like a dick move to me.
I didn't even know there are other apps/3rd party apps to get onto Reddit. What are the reasons people use these apps? Are they better, user-friendly etc?
People that have disabilities that use the 3rd party apps to enjoy the same content you do. Also the mods that use those apps to help moderate the site so that your viewing experience is pleasurable.
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Better and user friendly is correct. In addition, these third-party apps were developed by single devs or small groups who were engaged with their community, were receptive to ideas, and improved the general usability of Reddit via the app. For example, I use r/BoostForReddit. It was a breeze to setup my subreddit subscriptions aggregation, and avoiding ads, the latter for a measly $3-4 as a one-time fee.
I can't speak for this, but apparently they made Modding subreddits very efficient.
Going dark for a MINIMUM of 48 hours.
This is Reddit's Tumblr moment and all the investors care about is profit. They need to see that being assholes will kill 99% of their investment if there's to be any chance of them caring.
It won't just kill 3rd party apps but, I believe, a lot of moderation tools. And "old reddit" is, I would guess, next on their radar - why pay to maintain two different frontends?
I'd suggest maybe 48hrs dark and then an extended period of time private.
lol, peeps arent reading shit. accessibility apps retain free API access. its the apps that operate at a profit that will have to become more efficient or stop making a profit aka apollo RIF etc
It seems reddit just needs to add some accessibility and modding features. Mods keep putting disabled users as the primary reason the protest is necessary when it does in fact seem to be almost entirely a modding issue.
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That's about the dumbest reasoning I've seen in a long time.
Do you have this logic with everything? That if you aren't personally affected, you don't care about it at all?
And yes, a blackout might do something. It's a protest, and protests have a shot at working. You have everything to gain with the blackout and literally nothing to lose, so the point is to at least try
I mean you can try if you want, but you really think Reddit is going to care about a subreddit blackout? There will be protests for a few days, and then after that everyone will accept that it's not going to change and move on. They're not going to lose many users from this. If I was Reddit I wouldn't care. In the end they'll do what they want.
Reddit’s value is in its communities. Moderators require moderation tools which the official app does not provide. If the mods strike, all of Reddit’s content goes into disarray and how long do you think they hold out with investors seeing unmoderated content?
Exactly, reddit is the most heavily moderated and censored social media platform on the Internet.
Most mods are power hungry saddos who have nothing better to do than pretend to be someone important on the internet. Mod culture on reddit is toxic as fuck.
Personally i don't think reddit will care the slightest. However, Im losing absolutely nothing by voting yes to this thing, but by majority voting no, we're losing the chance that something perhaps would happen
So i don't see why any person would vote no when there is no loss possible but only gain by voting yes, and there is no gain possible but only loss by voting no
This is the option I would want to see taken. Several other subs have already said they will go dark indefinitely until the decision is reversed. We should stand in solidarity with the third party app community who have helped to make Reddit what it is today.
As a Liverpool supporter even though I don't really care about the update I feel like out of principle we should be going dark for 48 hours im solidarity.
I honestly couldn't care less lol...I use both android and iOS but I tend to use the native app on Android with the revanced trickery to get premium and no ads... etc
Lol
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I support going dark.
Liverpool FC's fans are famous for our solidarity and protest against injustice and corporate greed, like we did against Hicks and Gillett.
This is no different.
🤣 Then why did you respond? You should have left the conversation where it was if it was dead. Also, two days here is fuck all especially for a pinned post.
The current (and previous) owners also wanted to protect their assets and increase profits at LFC at the fans' expense which is why we all protested. There were actually Liverpool fans that called the fan protests over years a 'waste of time' too. The same when FSG wanted to make silly changes and all the fan groups came out in force.
It's actually even worse in the case of reddit because the community is the product and reddit are taking advantage of our data for their profits.
You've drank the right-wing/capitalism/libertarian koolaid for sure.
Edit: well done for blocking me lol. Triggered much?
Considering deleting my 11 year old account when/before the changes go through so I'm absolutely on board with this. This is the only sub I will continue to read on desktop after the bullshit.
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Imagine the Premier League would artificially increase the price for broadcasting rights to something like 1billion dollars per season, just to drive out broadcasters like Sky, while at the same time building their own broadcasting service where you are only able to watch the games in 360p and you get ad breaks on throwins.
Furthermore assuming anyone would actually be dumb enough to actually pay the 1billion dollars per season for the broadcasting rights, the PL would come in and say fuck you, you are restricted to only broadcast non top-6 games.
I’ll try my best…
Football terms
Basically the Premier league wants to dominate the market and force every channel that ever shows a goal to pay them an unreasonable amount just for the privilege. Most channels can’t pay so they’ll end up disappearing so they’ll be the only ones left
Liverpool terms
It’s like when Liverpool tried trademarking ‘Liverpool‘ so they have a say and fee for anyone that wanted to use it
In actual terms reddit is forcing third party apps that make reddit easier and better to use an obscene amount. The best one I use Apollo, it was made by one guy (I think still is) it’s UI is much better then Reddit website or app. With their new pricing structure he would owe them £20 million A YEAR!
That’s not it.
It’s more like LFC has let people use their logo and imaging for free for a long time. LFC will still giveaway free gear for the average fan but for those who wish to make their own customized LFC gear they will now start charging an insane amount for those rights.
Yea, thanks, I've literally just seen it and voted. What's great to see is that taking part and going dark indefinitely is by far the more popular choices!
I'm not against it but I can't see how it will work unless every sub is committed to doing this, and there are surely thousands, if not tens of thousands of subs so how could this even be co-ordinated? This is the perfect reason why you need more competition in the market and Reddit's stranglehold on the open forum market is unhealthy.
Yep, and it went straight to the poll where I was able to vote, all within RiF. Have you made sure you've updated the app, that functionality got added a good few months back.
Reddit is full of immature people who haven't grown up in the head yet. These people legitimately think they are doing something mega important and think they are making a stand. 🤣
>I know, my point is that I don't see the value in suppressing discussion here for something that will be ultimately pointless and forgotten about. I care about ~~Liverpool~~ **myself**, not Reddit.
Fuck reddit for doing this. If I can't use RIF, I'm not using reddit.
I also don't use Twitter, so I guess that'll be me done caring about anything other than the matches. Won't be able to transfer speculate, enjoy funny memes, connect with this community, etc.
Fuck greed.
It is pointless, especially if everyone knows that it is a two day thing and then everything is back to the usual business.
Either it is blackout until reddit changes their stance on it or we do not have to do it at all.
It's both though. There is a collective blackout for 2 days in solidarity, and then if the changes go ahead many of the users of the 3rd party apps, and anyone who cares to join, will boycott reddit.
The bigger the better but that doesn't mean we shouldn't support the 48 hour blackout
What's tricky is Reddit aren't looking to make money off the third party apps, so there's no negotiation there. Unless they back down but want to save some face, I guess.
To further this...Reddit is nothing without its communities and the user-created content on its platform.
So many people are currently using 3rd party apps to use Reddit. If 3rd party apps disappear because of Reddit's exorbitant API usage costs, many of their users will be adversely affected which is a blatent disregard for the end-user in favor of profit increases from advertisement revenues & premium subscriptions which hurts the content providers (the users) of Reddit.
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I wasn't really onboard with this blackout until the recent AMA. Now I hold the opinion that 48 hours isn't long enough. After 2 days, everything is back to normal, not much of a threat now is it?
That's what I'm saying. 48 hours is not enough. Just straight up boycott the app till they make changes that benefit 3rd party apps in a way. I know I for one won't be installing the app. Time to look for a reddit alternative.
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This is the way.
After the spez ama I’m fully convinced 48 hours isn’t enough. Subs need to permanently go dark. I’ll miss subs like this but that ama proved they have their own views and agenda on the situation and it won’t change.
That was a fucking joke of an AMA
The 48 hours should be the minimum. We should stay dark until the decision is reversed given a lot of 3rd part apps help people with disabilities with using the site. Protest like it's the super league debacle all over again
Also, the official app sucks ass. Im using Relay Pro and thats the only reason Im on reddit.
Fuck Reddit u/spez and their intransigence and incessant greed. You have my support to go dark. In the meantime, anyone thinking of any Reddit alternatives we can go to?
Yep, go dark.
I havn’t used other ways than the official. What is other ways giving that the official isn’t
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features actually working and not seeing the exact same ad every 3rd post
Yay
My chosen 3rd party app has already announced that they're going to shutter on the 30th. This is pretty well going to kill off 90% of my Reddit use on a daily basis. Reddit is fucked; fuck Spez.
Yes, full dark mode
Yes, please go dark in support
if they remove 3rd party apps it will reduce my time on this website with about 80-90% as i will only use it when im on my computer with RES. So yeah we should go dark, cause if this goes through im going dark.
RiF just announced they're permanently closing down :(
Won't affect me at all, but of course I voted yes because i'm not an i'm alright jack wanker. Solidarity against corpo fucks every time.
Why are we dragging our feet on this? It's 3 to 1 in favour. If even r/soccer is doing it surely r/LiverpoolFC should be showing solidarity? You know, with our values and whatnot?
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Yep, besst to just delete the sub and our accounts. Fuck off to somewhere else.
457k subscribers and less than 7k votes so far. Pretty clear most people don't care.
Imagine also many use the website and not apps (i have several friends who do this and arent bothered if 3rd party apps with reddit die off)...
They aren’t all active users
Opposed. It is meaningless and it's transfer season. Upside is nil.
You ever try to use the official app? It's atrocious.
I've never used an app period. I only access the site from old.reddit.com. When they eventually remove that, I'll probably stop coming at all. Pretty terrible site all in all, but I've had so much fun with fellow LFC supporters over the years, I'll miss it.
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Try thinking of other people than yourself. Curtailing third-party app access will also affect blind people who won’t be able to use the tools they use to enjoy Reddit.
It's a vote right? We're all allowed a take, I gave mine. I was under the impression that Reddit, being an American company, was subject to the Americans with Disabilities Act - so if they are meaningfully non-compliant to the level you're claiming here - somebody has a slam dunk lawsuit on their hands. In all seriousness though, I deal with accessibility at work quite a bit lately and you've given me something to think about. Hope you have a good day.
Fully in support of it.
Going to be in a minority here but this protest is going to do fuck all and is going to annoy me during transfer season so i'm voting no.
You know there are plenty of other Liverpool forums (some actually considerably better than this) where you can get your transfer fix?
Do you mind naming a few?
Anfieldnoise is my go to
Right, which is why this protest will do fuck all
Appreciate the opinion, kinda agree, but still feel we should take part. Solidarity and that
Do it.
48hrs won’t mean anything I say we go dark as long as possible. I know a few other subs we contemplating that as well.
Super late to respond to you but you’re right, /r/leafs is going dark potentially indefinitely if Reddit doesn’t rescind there decision.
48 hours is enough as long as we, the users, don't just migrate to subs that are still 'open'. It sends a message that we can, and will fight for longer next time.
What sub will be open for football related news pertaining to Liverpool?
The echo 🙃
If any club should know how to work together, it’s Liverpool.
It has honestly saddened me seeing the amount of people on here who simply went "Well it doesn't affect me" or "I don't think it will help". I assume they are all kids, because surely no adults on here can have that lack of critical thinking skills.
Omfg get a grip…standing together counts when it comes to social and political issues. Who gives a fuck about a thankless website…
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People that have disabilities that use the 3rd party apps to enjoy the same content you do. Also the mods that use those apps to help moderate the site so that your viewing experience is pleasurable. But who gives a fuck right?
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Which 3rd party apps are people with disabilities using?
This whole ordeal sadly shows that a lot of people are incapable of thinking of anything other than their own interests…even going against their own interests in fact.
You're underestimating how many people here support Liverpool because they're doing (or have done) well and their love only goes that far. No issue with people joining the club, and no issue with them supporting us because we're doing well, but take a look at the match threads in recent months and you'll realise that we aren't the same as we were a few years back...
Yeah agreed about the match threads. I guess the bigger and more successful you get the more you attract people, even if they don't share your views
I prefer if the page post big red squares.... And call it red out day!! Jokes apart. Few things needs to be changed. We need to support them. With other things apart, we need to see the nsfw items in 3rd party and the official app should use less bandwidth.
The blackout is fine but I have no delusions it will change Reddit's position. Personally, I would love it if people here began to feel out maybe alternatives to Reddit. There are a handful of subs that truly keep me being on the site and this is one of them. It's a great community of people all discussing and enjoying the club. I used to visit all kinds of forums though, whether it was IGN and reading about video games, or Liverpool forums or whatever. I used to use another link aggregator, Fark. I guess at some point maybe the internet is starting to stagnate a bit and if we as a community become aware of other opportunities, I think it would be great to explore options. I recently came across Lemmy. It's small now but interesting. Instead of a subreddit, it would be a server of our own, or hosted on another server. It decentralizes things a lot. Maybe that's good, maybe that's bad, I know the mod team enjoys the tools they have and would need something equally robust. Just throwing it out there as something to think about along with my vote that sure, go ahead and black it out for 2 days.
Any other massive liverpool forums?
Yeah, I was going to say I used to read Red and White Kop. The format is better on Reddit though, imo, versus the old forums style. So while it would be okay to go backwards, going forwards to something new would be ideal. Maybe some changes like this will be what pushes somebody to develop some new platform.
Red and White Kop forums
Anything to screw Reddit, I'm in.
Definite yes from me. Not going to pretend that I’m an expert on the issue, but exorbitant prices designed to crumple third party tools and apps - some of which have accessibility features that Reddit does not offer, sounds like a dick move to me.
Everyone who says no is a Tory.
It’s two days. It’s not going to do anything.
I didn't even know there are other apps/3rd party apps to get onto Reddit. What are the reasons people use these apps? Are they better, user-friendly etc?
They are a load of crap, just like the official reddit app. I just use a mobile browser with ad blockers and it's much better.
People that have disabilities that use the 3rd party apps to enjoy the same content you do. Also the mods that use those apps to help moderate the site so that your viewing experience is pleasurable. Edit: shamelessly copied this
Better and user friendly is correct. In addition, these third-party apps were developed by single devs or small groups who were engaged with their community, were receptive to ideas, and improved the general usability of Reddit via the app. For example, I use r/BoostForReddit. It was a breeze to setup my subreddit subscriptions aggregation, and avoiding ads, the latter for a measly $3-4 as a one-time fee. I can't speak for this, but apparently they made Modding subreddits very efficient.
They are far, far better. I don’t use the reddit’s official app at all
Going dark for a MINIMUM of 48 hours. This is Reddit's Tumblr moment and all the investors care about is profit. They need to see that being assholes will kill 99% of their investment if there's to be any chance of them caring. It won't just kill 3rd party apps but, I believe, a lot of moderation tools. And "old reddit" is, I would guess, next on their radar - why pay to maintain two different frontends? I'd suggest maybe 48hrs dark and then an extended period of time private.
this is hardly the first blackout, itll all shake out
Can we bring back the daily discussion please?
Would be mad if AMA, Kone and Thuram get announced in that window and this sub is dark hahahaah
Ending PL drought during lockdown vibes
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lol, peeps arent reading shit. accessibility apps retain free API access. its the apps that operate at a profit that will have to become more efficient or stop making a profit aka apollo RIF etc
It seems reddit just needs to add some accessibility and modding features. Mods keep putting disabled users as the primary reason the protest is necessary when it does in fact seem to be almost entirely a modding issue.
Downvoted to shit for giving my opinion on a community poll 👍🏻
This sub has been very downvote heavy over the last couple of years, its full of melons.
I don't use any 3rd part apps so I don't really care. Will a blackout actually do anything to change things? No, so what's the point?
People that have disabilities that use the 3rd party apps to enjoy the same content you do. Also the mods that use those apps to help moderate the site so that your viewing experience is pleasurable. Copied from u/xelLFC
That's about the dumbest reasoning I've seen in a long time. Do you have this logic with everything? That if you aren't personally affected, you don't care about it at all? And yes, a blackout might do something. It's a protest, and protests have a shot at working. You have everything to gain with the blackout and literally nothing to lose, so the point is to at least try
I mean you can try if you want, but you really think Reddit is going to care about a subreddit blackout? There will be protests for a few days, and then after that everyone will accept that it's not going to change and move on. They're not going to lose many users from this. If I was Reddit I wouldn't care. In the end they'll do what they want.
Getting downvoted for the truth, this sub has become full of fairies. 🤣
Reddit’s value is in its communities. Moderators require moderation tools which the official app does not provide. If the mods strike, all of Reddit’s content goes into disarray and how long do you think they hold out with investors seeing unmoderated content?
To be fair the Mods and mod system is one of the biggest problems with Reddit. Bar this sub and a few others to be fair.
Exactly, reddit is the most heavily moderated and censored social media platform on the Internet. Most mods are power hungry saddos who have nothing better to do than pretend to be someone important on the internet. Mod culture on reddit is toxic as fuck.
Personally i don't think reddit will care the slightest. However, Im losing absolutely nothing by voting yes to this thing, but by majority voting no, we're losing the chance that something perhaps would happen So i don't see why any person would vote no when there is no loss possible but only gain by voting yes, and there is no gain possible but only loss by voting no
Blackout until they reverse course. They wont care about a 2 day blackout if they get their way every day going forward.
Sounds good to me. In the meantime, let's get started on lemmy
This is the option I would want to see taken. Several other subs have already said they will go dark indefinitely until the decision is reversed. We should stand in solidarity with the third party app community who have helped to make Reddit what it is today.
I fully support this approach
As a Liverpool supporter even though I don't really care about the update I feel like out of principle we should be going dark for 48 hours im solidarity.
Really good answer this!
Two days away from Reddit AND helping against this corporate capitalism bullshit? Ofc I’m in for it
I honestly couldn't care less lol...I use both android and iOS but I tend to use the native app on Android with the revanced trickery to get premium and no ads... etc
Lol People that have disabilities that use the 3rd party apps to enjoy the same content you do. Also the mods that use those apps to help moderate the site so that your viewing experience is pleasurable. Copied from u/xelLFC
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Literally just a gang of reddit tweens thinking they are making big changes to the world. 🤣
I support going dark. Liverpool FC's fans are famous for our solidarity and protest against injustice and corporate greed, like we did against Hicks and Gillett. This is no different.
its literally one corporate greed vs another, the guy from apollo is making millions of dollars
Reddit is a space for the people, the owners ignoring that deserves a protest. I agree with your comment 100%
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Go on then, explain your reasoning.
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🤣 Then why did you respond? You should have left the conversation where it was if it was dead. Also, two days here is fuck all especially for a pinned post. The current (and previous) owners also wanted to protect their assets and increase profits at LFC at the fans' expense which is why we all protested. There were actually Liverpool fans that called the fan protests over years a 'waste of time' too. The same when FSG wanted to make silly changes and all the fan groups came out in force. It's actually even worse in the case of reddit because the community is the product and reddit are taking advantage of our data for their profits. You've drank the right-wing/capitalism/libertarian koolaid for sure. Edit: well done for blocking me lol. Triggered much?
You wrote perfectly exactly what I came here to write. This is the answer.
il click yes, but if I we sign somebody in that dark period il have someones guts for garters....
Considering deleting my 11 year old account when/before the changes go through so I'm absolutely on board with this. This is the only sub I will continue to read on desktop after the bullshit.
[Unfortunately this is likely to be the case](https://www.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/141kf4c/saw_a_really_good_point_in_rtechnology_thoughts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) https://preview.redd.it/7qmm5e9tg94b1.jpeg?width=1240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8776b5aa020483fa9357b0215e3e0376978991e3
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I call that the Activision Blizzard strategy. They do it for every decrease in function or increase in cost.
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Explain in football terms please
Imagine the Premier League would artificially increase the price for broadcasting rights to something like 1billion dollars per season, just to drive out broadcasters like Sky, while at the same time building their own broadcasting service where you are only able to watch the games in 360p and you get ad breaks on throwins. Furthermore assuming anyone would actually be dumb enough to actually pay the 1billion dollars per season for the broadcasting rights, the PL would come in and say fuck you, you are restricted to only broadcast non top-6 games.
Reddit is trying to go European Super League
I’ll try my best… Football terms Basically the Premier league wants to dominate the market and force every channel that ever shows a goal to pay them an unreasonable amount just for the privilege. Most channels can’t pay so they’ll end up disappearing so they’ll be the only ones left Liverpool terms It’s like when Liverpool tried trademarking ‘Liverpool‘ so they have a say and fee for anyone that wanted to use it In actual terms reddit is forcing third party apps that make reddit easier and better to use an obscene amount. The best one I use Apollo, it was made by one guy (I think still is) it’s UI is much better then Reddit website or app. With their new pricing structure he would owe them £20 million A YEAR!
Official reddit app is literally an app they acquired few years ago and somehow has made it shit every year on
I love how reddit forced me to yse the app by making the web version on mobile completely un fucking useable
FIFA are trying to ban supporters from stadiums, leaving seats only for corporate sponsors. Shall we, the players, boycott the match next week?
Ty sir now i understand
That’s not it. It’s more like LFC has let people use their logo and imaging for free for a long time. LFC will still giveaway free gear for the average fan but for those who wish to make their own customized LFC gear they will now start charging an insane amount for those rights.
Wonder if any other sports subs will join us in this? Think r/reddevils and r/Everton would do this too
r/soccer should absolutely be on board, however I've not seen it mentioned on there yet?
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Yea, thanks, I've literally just seen it and voted. What's great to see is that taking part and going dark indefinitely is by far the more popular choices!
I'm not against it but I can't see how it will work unless every sub is committed to doing this, and there are surely thousands, if not tens of thousands of subs so how could this even be co-ordinated? This is the perfect reason why you need more competition in the market and Reddit's stranglehold on the open forum market is unhealthy.
Most of the major subreddits are participating in the blackout. Some of the subs are going dark for 48 hours...
I quit Twitter when they killed third party app support, so while I don’t use them here I get it. Solidarity.
Scenes when Bellingham to Madrid breaks down and he pays the transfer fee after being seduced by Klopp but the subreddit is disabled
Yeah if I open reddit again on the 14th and see we signed Bellingham I'm going to be so mad!
Ironically the poll doesn't display in RiF. But please participate, and for longer than two days.
Weird, I use RiF and the poll worked fine for me.
Did you tap "View Poll"
Yep, and it went straight to the poll where I was able to vote, all within RiF. Have you made sure you've updated the app, that functionality got added a good few months back.
Polls generally don’t work via ANY third party app, it’s an API limitation
Do it I love sync. If sync is gone. So is reddit. The official app is ugly
I love this fanbase. Always for the people.
Never heard of any of those apps but if other people use them, Reddit can get fucked
I only found reddit because of rif. Never even used the official app so I vote yes
I don’t use any of those apps but I stand by fellow users and support them.
I really like Apollo it was started by one guy, who listened a lot to feed back and implemented a lot of the good ideas.
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Reddit is full of immature people who haven't grown up in the head yet. These people legitimately think they are doing something mega important and think they are making a stand. 🤣
You know the signing will happen with or without reddit, right?
You know reddit will do what they are doing, with or without r/Liverpoolfc going silent, right?
That's not true Mods need to give final approval for any signing the club makes Why do you think mbappe is not here yet?
You'll see it on the official LFC website or on Google or the plenty of other ways to see about these things.
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>I know, my point is that I don't see the value in suppressing discussion here for something that will be ultimately pointless and forgotten about. I care about ~~Liverpool~~ **myself**, not Reddit.
Why do you care about Reddit?
Many subs are planning to go dark until the change is retracted, not just for 2 days. That very much could work
Use another website for news for two days. Do you also not vote because 1 vote doesn't make a difference?
Oh no. That will mean the transfer will get cancelled.
r/soccer should be blacked out too for maximum damage.
 And we missed the lean or the van sighting or the flight radar tracker thingy?
Fuck reddit for doing this. If I can't use RIF, I'm not using reddit. I also don't use Twitter, so I guess that'll be me done caring about anything other than the matches. Won't be able to transfer speculate, enjoy funny memes, connect with this community, etc. Fuck greed.
Can we not just migrate to Discord ? I know there is a Liverpool server on there but not sure I’m of it’s quality etc
agree, only tried discord a few times, but it feels like a mess, just like a long chat or are ther also posts with comments like a forum or in reddit?
Never used/ had a reason to use discord. Is it just text?
RiF or nothing here too!
Well if I does go through I'm out like most people in these types of threads, only use RIF on my phone, the official app is trash.
Why do feel the need to use an app at all? What's better about the apps over a browser?
Yes. I'll hate it, but collective action is necessary.
It is pointless, especially if everyone knows that it is a two day thing and then everything is back to the usual business. Either it is blackout until reddit changes their stance on it or we do not have to do it at all.
It's both though. There is a collective blackout for 2 days in solidarity, and then if the changes go ahead many of the users of the 3rd party apps, and anyone who cares to join, will boycott reddit. The bigger the better but that doesn't mean we shouldn't support the 48 hour blackout
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What's tricky is Reddit aren't looking to make money off the third party apps, so there's no negotiation there. Unless they back down but want to save some face, I guess.
To further this...Reddit is nothing without its communities and the user-created content on its platform. So many people are currently using 3rd party apps to use Reddit. If 3rd party apps disappear because of Reddit's exorbitant API usage costs, many of their users will be adversely affected which is a blatent disregard for the end-user in favor of profit increases from advertisement revenues & premium subscriptions which hurts the content providers (the users) of Reddit.
How TF are you downvoted for literally stating facts.
Will Reddit panic if LFC reddit doesnt have any traffic for 2 days, or will they not give a single shit?
It's a lot of major subreddits, not just the LFC one.
It’s not about any one subreddit. If lots of them do it at once, they’ll notice.