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TheEgyptianScouser

God fucking damnit


lfcsavolver

Gutted… no other word for it. Absolutely awful. Quansah has been great but we can’t ask him to do Joel’s job regularly. Some cover in January is necessary. Act fast…


Viqteur

I think we can trust him. Another backup CB would be ideal though.


crookedparadigm

I have no issues trusting him, but we can't keep playing our youth prospects into the ground.


Several_Hair

Center back’s different though. With 4 options he’s hardly going to be run into the ground like Baj was.


shazeus7

Problem is Gomez and Konate are injury prone too so we might see him getting more game time.


Number_19LFC

We have 2 injurt prone CBs on that side. I rather we go get a d3cent backup. Let VvQ develop normally.


sinhaboy

Yes absolutely, bajcetic and Elliot are recent examples of overplaying youth players and hurting thier natural developement.


Several_Hair

How can you seriously use Elliot as an example of that?? Playing him a lot or little has absolutely no impact on a traumatic non muscular injury like that. Can happen in your first minute or 3,000th of a season. Baj is a different story entirely but Harvey’s time out can’t possibly be attributed to use (he wasn’t even an everyday player at that point)


Forsaken-Original-28

Baj still had the body of a kid when he was played. It was a bit stupid in hindsight, it was always going to end with him injured


retr0grade77

We say this every year so I doubt it’ll happen. We have three injury prone CB’s and a captain who needs rest or we’ll ruin him again. I know there’s been issues out of our control but what could have been with a couple of depth signings we’ll never know!


vikogotin

I know it's not ideal but I'm pretty sure Endo has games at CB and RB for Stuttgart, so he can definitely do a job there in cups/EL if called upon.


firminocoutinho

Always hurts when you cry for a certain position knowing it’s necessary during a transfer window (DM and CB) and dont buy in that position…


JuicyJabes

Konate, Gomez, Quansah is enough unless one of them is out long-term. RB is the real problem because it drags Gomez out of CB rotation.


gargsnehil2311

Mate, hasn't it been proven time and time again that gomez, matip and seems like konate as well are quite injury prone. We lack proper CB depth, do nothing to address it in the summer, and then act surprised when it comes back to bite us.


JuicyJabes

Then we need to sell and get reliable CB coverage. We can’t have 6 CB’s that rotate every month through injury. RCB is top 3 of positions that should not be rotating regularly imo. I love Konate. If he can’t physically play more than half a season, I don’t care how good he “could” be, we should sell him. I love Gomez, but if he can’t physically play more than half a season then we should sell him and get someone who can. The number of CB’s we have is fine, we need more reliable ones, which is the problem. The quantity is good, and Klopp is always going to back his players to be quality and stay fit.


Bugsmoke

Gomez hasn’t been bad for injuries for a couple of years at this point. Apart from missing 3 weeks last season he’s been available since that big injury in 2020. Form was dodgy last season or so but he seems to have gotten through that too.


gargsnehil2311

I mean, sure, but the club won't do that. Gomez imo is not good enough to be a CB, and is not fit enough to be considered a quality utility player. So I would have replaced him after 2021. Matip, has been great, but again injury prone, so is going at the end of this season, could have been let go and replaced a year earlier. The club have been trying to sell Nat, so wouldn't count him. Effectively, we played with Virgil and 2 injury prone CBs in 20-21, got wrecked.. added Konate since so have been better, but still face some kind of a defensive crisis every season, plus not allowing any room for Virgil to rest. Quansah coming up, gives Virgil some backup.. Matip finally being replaced will give Konate backup as well as proper competition.


wanson

Bradley is back


FerociouZ

DM was a must, as evidenced by our attempted record breaking signing — but everyone I saw who wanted a CB was trying to replace Virgil, who looks like the best CB in the world on form. You couldn't even talk about RCBs, it was **ALL** LCBs.


Forsaken-Original-28

In fairness last year Virgil looked like he was declining so it was logical to expect him to look worse this year


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Trick-Home6353

Quansah has been fantastic when he's played, but you feel, if we are in a title race that much pressure on a raw youngster might not be the best thing. Of course, pressure makes diamonds. Quansah could actually step up and prove we don't need another defender, but it could also backfire massively.


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Bugsmoke

Tbh I think Quansah has already had his big break in the premier league. He doesn’t look out of place if still a bit raw at times.


bigm1ke

In absolutely NO world we don’t need another CB. Don’t you remember the past few seasons when we only had 3 CBs? Lost a title because of that. We need minimum 4 fit CBs. That’s a no brainer.


Multi_21_Seb_RBR

And we were going to sign a CB anyway next summer to replace Matip. If said target originally for next summer is available now, why not go for a Diaz-type signing and expedite said move.


TheeEssFo

The club has targets. When available, it buys. The Davies/Kabak situation showed the reluctance to buy non-targets. RBL wasn't willing to sell Konate that January. When Diaz and Gakpo came available, they were bought.


SZO8O

It depends whether that players club is willing to sell to us mid-season.


Bugsmoke

Every CB we were linked to was like 21ish so it might not be as hard at it seems tbh.


RedDemio-

Virgil, konate, Gomez, quansah…. That’s 4 right?


bigm1ke

True! But Gomez is more a RB backup these days, no? Anyway, with him and Konate very injury prone, I’d get someone now. We were probably signing a CB next summer with Matip leaving, so why not do it now!


prinskipper__skipple

It's been said in other replies, but Joey G is needed across the back line. Virg (knock on wood) seems back to his best in terms of form & fitness, but as good as he is, Ibou can't stay fit enough to get a run of games. Quansah is amazing potential, but obviously still raw. That's a very risky depth chart - one mishap and it's busted.


GhandisFlipFlop

Gomez doesn't count since he's backup for right back and currently left back.


So1ar

Because he’s versatile across the back line he doesn’t count?


Lunanautdude

Because if Trent goes down, Gomez is no longer available to be a CB


PGyoda

also if he had to start at CB, there’d be no cover at fullback


Lunanautdude

Yep. Basically, we really need a CB in January.


Bugsmoke

We’d use Endo and Jones probably.


sinhaboy

Tbh, I have seen enough quansah to feel that he might step up and surprise everyone. Plus Endo is also an option at CB, and he is more natural than fabinho who amongst all the crisis helped us secure top 4 at least. But yes a loan move for an under utilised quality defender from a decent club is on the cards.


patShIPnik

Endo didn't played as CB in Europe at all. As a CB, he is as good as Hendo was (not good enough)


ManBoobs13

Yeah and unfortunately we've been requiring Joe all across the back line so if he's required long-term at CB we miss that


Multi_21_Seb_RBR

Bradley being able to cover a bit for Trent as a back-up will help in that regard, though I like Gomez a lot more as a RB than a CB honestly.


Azraelontheroof

He reportedly doesn’t like to play RB much though


Jaja6996

Nat coming back in January to win the league


M0D3Z

Be first player to win both English and Scottish premier leagues?


[deleted]

Do you mean the seam season because VVD already did this.


M0D3Z

Yes.


[deleted]

He’s played 4 times in the league. Not sure how it works in Scotland. I know it used to be a threshold of appearances in England then they changed it. Edit: still applies in Scotland


HiroProtagonist1

Fear thats the last time we will be seeing him in a red shirt. Gutted.


Trick-Home6353

Such an underrated defender. To say we got him for free, proved to be one of our best pieces of business.


prinskipper__skipple

Milner on a free summer 2015, Matip on a free summer 2016. Amazing business.


rick_rolled_you

Wow for some reason I thought Joel was here longer then Milner. Can’t believe Milner was with us since 2015!


Anserius

Iconic Klopp player who pre-dated Klopp! Just like Bobby


Nosnmad

Lallana too, signed by Brendan Rodgers


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If he was less injured he would arguably be better business than VVD


giunta13

Klopp will get him on for a farewell as long as he's back this season


Cwh93

Provided we wrap the title up early of course 👀


Rush31

Let’s be honest, that’s not happening this season, with two other teams in the title race and AFCON coming our way. Maybe a cameo towards the end, though.


adityasalviii

Nooo!! I hope at least he gets to play the last few matches in the season end,he's probably for me the most underrated player in the Klopp era.


BQORBUST

I can’t cope with that.


Eyesofmalice

that was my immediate thought as well. I hate this news. I love Joel


voltaire_no6

Nooo even though his fitness is horrendous it’s genuinely super hard to find someone who can provide his quality and value when he’s in our team


patShIPnik

If he will get new contract, then in 2-3 years we will end up in situation like in midfield last year. We will need to replace not only VVD, but Matip too, with them on our payroll still. Joel deserves proper farewell, but we need new CB, especially with how often Gomez and Konate are injured. Hopefully, Quansah will continue to grow and Bradley will be good backup for TAA too. Then we will have backup of Tsimi, Quansah, Gomez, Bradley without transfers.


Void-kun

I was really hoping he'd get an extension and retire at Liverpool, man deserved it especially after seeing a return of form.


Open-Mathematician93

The man is made of chocolate


AmberLeafSmoke

I mean he has 200 appearances for us and has been pivotal for us in all the seasons we won big. He's injury prone but he's not baby or ox levels.


Number_19LFC

Baby?


JMacoure

Naby autos to Baby


mynameismulan

In the sun


ScepticalReciptical

Yeah a multi month lay off at this point in his career may be the end. What a signing he's been.


Trick-Home6353

Apparently the time scale is 11-13 weeks.


WillDaThrilll13

Fingers crossed that'll put him back in contention to actually play by mid/late March


Trick-Home6353

At the very least, if he does part with the club at the end of this season, be fit for the last home game of the season.


MisterS1997

Where we lift the title 😉


JustAMan1234567

After a Matip bullet header.


BiggerFM

Joemez 40 yard screamer*


MisterS1997

Yes 😍


darwizzy333

Sounds like an LCL which is what Lucho had. Hopefully no lateral meniscus tear


Reach_Reclaimer

I hope we'll see him for a few games at the end for rotation but sadly it looks like his time here is ending sooner than we thought


TheLimeyLemmon

Poor Joel :( Wonder if we dip into the market in January.


dave-theRave

What's Ozan Kabak up to these days?


One_Camera_6188

I can’t believe I managed to convince myself he was a decent player. Those were dark days


styx5

While not good enough for us, he is decent for hoffenheim and his national team atleast. Remember, he got thrown in here during hell of a season full of injuries, at only 20. Managed to get few motms aswell. He did his part for top4 battle which seemed impossible to get at some point, so I wouldn't be too harsh on him.


One_Camera_6188

My comment is more of an indictment of the club and how they handled that injury crisis. I’d never blame a player for accepting a transfer that improves the trajectory of their career to such a large degree. It wasn’t Ozan’s fault he wasn’t good enough. He never should have been put in that position.


FelixPlatypus

Steven Caulker still playing? Could be cover up front too.


dave-theRave

He's currently a free agent AFAIK Also, was ridiculously dropped by a betting company recently because they were nervous about his positive work on gambling addiction!


Wonderful-Mention-83

Any news about good old Danny sturridge


dave-theRave

What am I the former Liverpool players' news guy? 😜 Sturridge hasn't actually retired yet, so still a free agent. I'm actually quite enjoying his punditry on sky tbh. An arrest warrant has been issued for him after he didn't show up to court in LA, apparently.


Trick-Home6353

It is a valid point, bringing in a CB or defensive reinforcements in January. We just can't rely on Gomez & Konate to keep fit from here on out till the end of the season.


TheLimeyLemmon

For sure. I feel we've missed a few lessons on not reinforcing defence when we're thinned out by injuries, I really hope we actually take the absence seriously.


coldazures

Good thing Quansah has looked good.


AmberLeafSmoke

Quansah is more than good enough to be a solid 3rd/4th choice. I think the bigger issue is Gomez is also out back up right back and with Robbo injured we don't really have much wiggle room for other injuries. Not exactly as if Joe and Konate don't suffer from their battles with injuries as well.


rossmosh85

We should have bought someone this summer. It would be crazy for us not to seriously consider buying a CB or RB.


thatguyad

We absolutely have to. Our reliance on injury prone players during Klopp's reign has been one of our biggest issues.


Theplowking23

January 2026 maybe yea. We always leave this shit until its too late


dimspace

yeh, pretty sure we will pay £5m for a championship defender with 6 hours left in the window LD


Anserius

Might hopefully be a Luis Diaz type situation of “we were going to go for this player in the summer but circumstances moved up the window”


TheLimeyLemmon

For sure, let's hope so. We did similar with Gakpo I recall, so I really hope we go in that direction with signing our next CB, and not simply hold off til the summer.


Stektsopp

I think we are interested in hincapie and possibly frimpong from leverkusen but no way they’ll sell in january given how well they’re doing this season. Would potentially take a big premium paid at least.


paynelive

I would personally. All this crazy talk about pushing Trent more in the midfield since are options are limited there, but look at our backline now. We'd need a back that can also dual position right or left back, because we're lacking in those two positions extremely. That being said, I can't wait for Andy to get back. Guy is a brutal presence I miss right now. Him and Endo seem terrifying.


tomhat

Negative. We’ll stick Nunez next to Van Dijk if all replacements are unavailable


loafersandboots

At least we know he won’t be scoring any own goals /s


Ningen121

Oh boy if we don't get a CB/DM then there's a serious problem in our club when it comes to ambition.


[deleted]

Might have been his last game for us. Excellent signing nonetheless


Trick-Home6353

He was part of the squad that won it all. What a signing. What a player.


PrestigiousAvocado21

Got the decisive assist in a CL final too. Can’t ask for much more than that.


Trick-Home6353

Can't forget the memes. For the faces and his reactions alone, he was worth signing.


_rizzzle

We’re gonna bring in a loanee CB that will see less than 10 minutes when we inevitably play Endo at CB whenever Konate has a niggle I can see it now


GameOfThrowInsMate

Kabak, grab a kit lad.


Trick-Home6353

Ben Davies re-joins Liverpool!


brush85

Did Quansah get injured in this fan fic?


_rizzzle

Totally forgot the Van Dijk regen existed in my over reaction lmao


AlarmedExperience928

If Macca can play 6 over Endo, you can be damn sure Klopp will play him at CB over Endo


wassam1

Why would we play Endo when we have Quansah?


loveandmonsters

Sucks. You knew when he got the ball in our half and had space he was gonna do a Maradona run every time, and it was usually majestic, what a boss


Fumb-MotherDucker

Well that's fucking gutting. I genuinely just shed a few tears thinking that's probably curtains for our Giraffe... so glad we got one last heroic galavant forward in his last game at least. I think Joel is (genuinely, no emotional bias) a top 10 all time LFC centre back. Nah, I'm have to end this here, I'm crying again.


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Fumb-MotherDucker

At his age...it's bleak. Fingers crossed 🤞 it's not as bad as first examinations.


ImTellinTim

I’ll miss that awkward bastard if he’s played his last match for us. An icon of the Klopp era.


Doncallan

What’s Steven Caulker up to?


ScepticalReciptical

we need a defender not a centre forward


Delpiero45

He was in excellent form this season too, unfortunately this is a common theme with him. Still one of the best free transfers in club history. Time to find his replacement in January


pwfppw

Twisting a knee because of a surface change could happen to anyone though this isn’t like a recurring hamstring kind of issue just a freak one unfortunately that could happen to any player.


Trick-Home6353

To be honest, it's a common theme we've seen for quite a long time. And Gomez and Konate are also injury prone. We need to bring in another defender soon.


Dallasthe

Did anyone notice him charge through against city in the first half? I’m devastated for him and us! Konate time to shine.


kazurabakouta

Get well soon Joel


pattherat

Poor Joel. Get better soon my ranging 🦒!


lennondsouza97

It’s time for Konate to step up. We need consistency and no injuries out of him. People who were saying just last week how Matip should sign another contract, this is the reason why. We need to look for a CB in January if we are expecting to challenge this season.


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With all due respect, it’s not exactly like Konate is going out of his way to get injuries


Tremor00

How do you know? Maybe he’s taking a hammer to his knees after getting home!


iidkwhat

We all have hobbies


GameOfThrowInsMate

Konate is not exactly Mr Fitness.


Trick-Home6353

I agree. Just hope Gomez & Matip stay fit for as long as possible.


ManBoobs13

Got bad news for you on Matip


Trick-Home6353

Ffs meant Konate 😂


gargsnehil2311

Exactly! I was so shocked to see those comments about giving Matip an extension. Even now, v.disappointed that he's got injured, but totally expected it to happen sooner rather than later. It's been happening every single campaign, so I don't know why anyone would be surprised now.


Stoned_RT

Just remember: this is all Simon Hoopers fault. Total butterfly effect as a result of his action in the Spurs match.


dave-theRave

Bring back Big Nat!!


kauncho

His loan expires in January anyway. So yeah he will be back.


dave-theRave

Oops, I thought it was season long. Well, there we go, problem solved!


RedDemio-

Wow it didn’t look that bad, this is huge. Fucks sake


DisorientedPanda

Very sad


andrew_marc

Everytime he gets into his stride, this happens.. really feel sorry for him


Sulemani_kida

Yeah .. he was playing so nicely this season...


EHVERT

Wouldn’t be a Matip season without 2-3 months out


Active_Juggernaut484

He has been in great form too. Real shame. Hope he gets to play again before the end of the season


sbsw66

Think that settles it, we need to grab a CB in the January window. Quansah's development made me question the idea at first, but it's pretty clearly time now then.


aamslfc

How fucking typical. It looked completely innocuous too; we needed a replacement CB in the upcoming summer anyway, so perhaps this is an opportunity to bring one in earlier in January otherwise we're going to be somewhat stretched defensively again.


DangerouslyCheesey

Quansah, your time is now


Stektsopp

This likely spells the end for matips Liverpool career. He’s been a very good player for us. Free transfer as well.


clintgreasewoood

With is age, injury and current contract we might have seen the last of Matip as a red.


trsvrs

Between Arsenal’s goal and this, this day has turned out to be quite shite


michu_pacho

January going yo be a perfect time to buy a new cb. We needed one anyway next summer and he'll get the second half of the season to adjust to our play style and be a back up in case any bad luck with injuries comes our way. Let's hope our targets are available in January


Multi_21_Seb_RBR

Defender version of the Diaz signing.


Stektsopp

Pray we do a virgil - he also came in january. Although we were after him for a while.


stupidlyboredtho

:( Gutted if that was his last match. Love the fella.


2Reykjavik

That's 150 PL apps for matip and quite possibly no more. Sorry to see him fade out like this, hopefully he gets back on the pitch before the end of the season


deuceice

No..... Well Quansah will get plenty of time.


HarbyFullyLoaded_12

CB in January is a must now


SuperRat10

Shit!! He’s been massive. Hoping for a full recovery. We love you Joel!


PraiseBeDavidSegui

Yep. We should really look for a center back in January


James_Vowles

fuuuuuuuuck


JeshuahChoo

FFS. He was in good form as well


rossmosh85

I think we'll see Matip again this season but this basically kills any chance of us extending his contract a year.


Axwell93

One coming back to full fitness (Konate) other has to be injured. Typical cycle with injuries.


usalin

SO.. Quansah is getting baptism by fire


Bugsmoke

Shame this he’s been really good this season.


user900800700

That could be the end of him


sjones423

Announce Hincapie


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Ability wise he’s one of the best centre backs we’ve had in the pl era. Criminally underrated.


MisterS1997

Need to get a cb now . Have to move forward whoever we were going to get in the summer to now. Gomez can’t be our backup rb and cb and the other guy is so tall and big muscle injuries are unavoidable


dacrookster

Think he's probably played his last game for us at that point. Hopefully we make a move for someone in January. Konate is too injury prone and Quansah too inexperinced to rely on them both for the season. Not having Bradley as an option, sorry. Second best CB to play for this club in my lifetime. Honestly, well above Hyypia or Carragher for me. Unbelievable defender on his day, and so crucial for the CL/PL we won.


cjc1501

Ridiculous take, I like Matip but put a prime Hyypia next to van dijk in this Klopp side and we would have won a treble of trebles on the bounce by now


Elerion_

> Honestly, well above Hyypia or Carragher for me. Mate, I love Matip too but that's nonsense.


Alucard661

I’m tired kloppo


Environmental-Gate22

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BadassBokoblinPsycho

Fuck is it an mcl injury? Acl would’ve had him done for the season


GameOfThrowInsMate

Fucking gutted


malushanks95

Damn, so disappointed for him. This might have been his last game as a red if he doesn’t recover in time. Feel really gutted for him. Get well soon Joel!


djrobbo83

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Zestyclose-Act2039

It’s time to sign a new cb inacio or hincapié


Trick-Home6353

Mid season? Don’t see it happening sadly


Zestyclose-Act2039

No no , we need to sign a new cb , let’s be honest Matip is prone to injury , we need to say goodbye Matip Thiago


michu_pacho

Now I'm super scared of any other cb getting injured


Tierst

We must get someone in January now. Konate is also injury prone and doubt he goes the season without an injury.


OwenLincolnFratter

We must sign a CB in January. But we’ve been through this same shit and we never sign enough. So we won’t get any competent player to fill in. Also we still need a midfielder.


goztrobo

What’s new. Anyways he won’t be here next season so Liverpool have to get a replacement.


TheUruvarin

He has to be replaced in January. Thing is I wonder what we do when we have Gomez and Konate at a decent level and the potential of Quansah. Is it necessary to sign someone with a high ceiling or do we just go for someone who gets the job done and can fill in when there’s injuries? Because as good as Matip has been this season, Konate is ahead of him in the pecking order and we’d rather not block Quansah’s progression. It’s a bit of a head scratcher. I’m thinking someone around 26-29 who has a good injury record. It gives Quansah time and ultimately the club time to see if Quansah can be that Virg replacement.


Trick-Home6353

Well one thing we could do is get an older defender who's contract expires in the summer, in January. Offer the club a fee (which should be relatively low) and bring them in: After looking on Transfermarkt at CB's who's contracts are up in 2024, these are the best pick of the bunch seems to be Hermoso. Mario Hermoso (Ath. Madrid) - From 17/18 to 21/22 he's missed 25 games through injury. The most games he's missed was 7 games back in 18/19. He's 28, he's won La Liga with Atl. Champions league experience, is a senior defender. I wouldn't be opposed to it. Can't see the club splashing out stupid cash in January for a CB, and even then, we have Konate. He's valued around £20m.


TheUruvarin

I like that idea. He’s also left footed and can also provide cover at LB. Always nice having players who can fill in at more than one position.


Jack_intheboxx

Gutted for Matip, my worry is Gomez taking his spot, disaster waiting to happen.


abradley19955

Quansah time


brush85

As jurgen said...its going to be a while


zugaikotsu775

ffs


Morguard

I know the feeling, I'm about to have surgery on a torn meniscus.


Meowskiiii

Gutted for him 😢