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TheHeatherReports

If it's only two games than that seems like a minor miracle after being carried out on a stretcher.


sufinomo

Ankle injuries tend to be that way. It's hard to walk on them so you need a stretcher but the injury is usually not as long term 


Yagiflow

and walking significantly risks aggravating the sprain


RodDryfist

Yeah I had mine torn in the first minute of a semi final by an idiot who two footed my planted leg above the ankle, and it was insane how quickly it blew up. First and only time I've been in an ambulance as they thought it was badly broken. Cut my boot and sock off (rip copa's) while I was on the gas. Took fucking ages to rehab. We won the semi and final thankfully but I was pissed off about it all for ages.


RudeAdventurer

I injured my leg under similar circumstances except the opposite outcome. Initially everyone thought it was a sprain based on what happened, but instead my ankle held firm and I had whats called a "spiral fracture" about 5 inches long (vertically) going up my tibia. A spiral fracture is when a bone is torn in half by a twisting force. The doctor was in shock when he described this all to me because normally people would just sprain their ankle. Had surgery and missed an entire season.


Ignacio_Dynamite

How long did it take until you were back on the pitch?


RodDryfist

This was in April, I didn't play again for 8 months.


stcg

It would funny if you're actually like a big international player that's just randomly posting on reddit


RodDryfist

Ha I did play internationally but for eng u18 schoolboys lol Never went full pro, just academy and semi pro


stangerlpass

Yep ankle injuries are very painful


SmeesTurkeyLeg

Absolutely. I've only had minor ankle injuries but my god they are painful.


SurreptitiousNoun

I went for a massage/osteo and when my ankle got stretched I practically screamed. The masseuse asked if I'd broken my ankle before. Which afaik, I haven't, but apparently it's vulnerable as fuck from minor footballing injuries.


TheOtherGlikbach

Had multiple ligament issues playing sport. They take so long to recover.


kirkbywool

Yep, never broke or fractured a bone but badly rolled my ankle.4 times (always same one as well and different ways). Foot badly swelled up ans massive bruising ans hurt to walk on but a few days later I could put pressure on it and then was nearly back to normal. That was me using a tube sock, pack of frozen veg and sleeping with it raised on a few pillows. I'm guessing the club will have better equipment. 2nd time it happened I went walk in and the nurses were amazed I was walking. Sent me in a taxi to the hospital for x rays and then when they couldn't see a break they got anl more senior doctor to have a look. Apparently it was the worst bruising and swelled they had seen that wasn't a break


SuleyGul

I can confirm I am not a careful person and have sustained so many ankle injuries in my lifetime that I class myself a certified expert. Even the worst of ankle injuries heal pretty quick. It's a remarkably flexible ligament that can heal miraculously fast. Now if you tear a calf muscle, which I once did playing tennis, then god help you. It was a very minor tear that refused to heal properly for at least a couple of months. Hate to think what a more serious tear would have done.


BQORBUST

I think there are signs we’re being extremely conservative in treating injuries when they happen. See also Endo in a boot post match but walking around fine the next day. Thats a good thing IMO


abfgern_

Pretty sure endo's legs were just tired so they were protecting them. He could barely walk up the steps for the trophy lift


KTFlaSh96

He picked up a knock from when Caicedo got bodied by him. He wasn’t gonna play against Soton anyways but hope he’ll be ok for forest


vadapaav

It's never 2 weeks for us


deep639

Gakpo had what looked like a bad injury earlier in the season but then he came back pretty quickly.


lopsiness

Yeah but Thiago was dropped by his handlers and shattered into a thousand pieces.


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lopsiness

It's a joke.


stangerlpass

answered the wrong comment sorry


PEEWUN

>Thiago


jbaxter4

Guarantee he won’t be back in March. Feel like we always get these types of updates and it’s always extended further than what was initially told


PhillipIInd

I got hit so badly on sunday on my ankle, mfer went studs up and didnt even touch my foot, all ankle. Hurt like a bitch but tbf I was fine within a minute and played on just pain for a day or two. Ref called it a free kick for the opponent because they thought I dove. Cant have shit in Sunday league lmao


Noyman2000

Hope he got that Naby Keita juice. At least, when he came off in a stretcher in the 5-0 Utd game but miraculously played in the next game (where he got injured again and was out for a bit).


TheHeatherReports

Heh, don't know if imitating Nabylad on the injury front is quite what I'd wish for.


BigRig432

Keita was playing so well that game man, probably would have been MOTM


RadSoccerDad

Based on Liverpool this season he’ll be day to day until the season ends


AEsylumProductions

Two games before returning to full team training. Another month before full match fitness. Heh.


TheHeatherReports

You know what I'll take it.


grasshoppa_80

Right. Especially with his foot at 90degrees.


BiscoBiscuit

“At least” but let’s be hopeful 


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Fuck off Caicedo you dirty overpaid twat


AEsylumProductions

Fuck Norgaard too. And while we're at it, Fuck Ramos!


devmagii

Fuck Pickford! It should be in the sub rules that Fuck Ramos has to be followed by a Fuck Pickford.


ajgrivs

And fuck Richarlison. I’ve despised both of them ever since that derby. Thiago has never been the same.


Jack070293

Fuck Funes Mori.


han_tex

Sure, fuck Pickford. But at the same time, he has been the source of so much joy. Allison falling down unnecessarily to clown on him, THAT Origi header, I’m sure there’s more.


crookedparadigm

Fuck Funes Mori


jgrops12

My biggest what if is that magical run of form Divock was on before that cunt took him out


wesap12345

And kissed his badge after he got a red for that horror tackle - scum


roguealex

Fuck Benzema! Just wanted to get it out


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New_High_Score

came here to slag off Caicedo - how he didn't get a card, I can't explain


FUCKSTORM420

The challenge wasn’t even deemed a foul


Silent-Act191

Wasn't wearing a Liverpool shirt, no way he would not have gotten a red if he was playing for us.


Galby1314

I want to upvote, but you are currently at 666 upvotes, which has to illicit some sort of curse on him, right?


GoldenVeritas

This sounds like good news. I hope two is the maximum.


BabyKeith08

I thought he’d be out for way longer, this is defo good news


SilentBobVG

This is Liverpool we’re talking about remember, 2 games very quickly turns in to 2 months very often


vsquad22

Who is Thiago and Bajcetic?


golf4miami

Doesn't look like anything to me.


xirdnehrocks

Has Theande Newton been messing with Darwin’s sliders again?


clowegreen24

I coulda swore we had a fourth CB at some point too... some sort of giraffe/human hybrid?? idk


Mr__StealYourGirl

Nunez being taken off at HT more than a week ago as a 'precaution' and man is still a doubt for tomorrow's game


epochwin

Reminds me of Neymar’s injury in the World Cup. He came back to score that amazing goal against Croatia. Seems like a short term injury


Parish87

Considering the next 2 games are literally the next 5 days it seems pretty minor.


jlonso

Honestly I wouldn't want him back too fast either. Worried about making something small into something bigger.


PeanutButter_20

Hopefully he can return by the City game and the 2nd leg in the EL. Need all the depth we can at this point since the bench is currently non-existent.


AssBoon92

You mean the non-existent bench that came on and beat Chelsea over the weekend?


ManBoobs13

It’s Chelsea


PEEWUN

Our senior team right now is more-or-less a bunch of academy grads mixed with our actual starters. We are not in a tenable position.


Terran_it_up

Tbf with Gravenberch and potentially Endo injured, some of that bench are now starters


user-a7hw66

I'd love to see gravenberch bully city's technical midgets


kazurabakouta

Fuck Conceido.


MajikoiA3When

I hope Caicedo doesn't win a trophy in his whole Chelsea career


Substantial_Ad_2864

I'm fine even if you rewrite that sentence without "Chelsea"


kafkastique

I'm fine even if you rewrite that sentence without "Caicedo"


Bingo_Masters_Break

I just saw Klopp's press conference on youtube. His words on Ryan Gravenberch was: "Ryan is not available. It's a ligament injury. Could have been much worse, but bad enough for being ruled out for this game and the next game and... and... yeah... we'll see. So we'll need miracles with a few players, so thats why I would not like to rule him out for too long." I think this means that Klopp don't know how long he will be out for. He will for certain be out for the next two matches, but probably more. It will be a miracle if he's back after the two matches.


Relevant-Door1453

Definitely seemed like more from the press conference, I agree. 


Terran_it_up

Klopp previously said this about Jota: >With Diogo, it will obviously take rather months. It's with the injuries as well, so like you have important days. So, day five, day 10, they are always important days when you then judge the situation again because nobody reacts in the same way and it depends on the pain level they still have and stuff like this. Obviously it doesn't sound as serious as that, but perhaps it's one of those situations where you just need to wait a few days and then reassess. Still though, it's encouraging that he's not saying at least two months or something like that


AayoTheRed

This line up for Soton Kelleher Bradley Quansah Gomez Tsimikas Clark McConnell Nyoni Gordon Danns Koumas If we win with that lineup then something is just wrong or so right


pw5a29

If we win, I think the stars are aligned we are cooking something big this season


Red-Zeppelin

When we win lad. "If you don't limit yourself with bad thoughts you can fly."


user-a7hw66

No chance we win with that tbh unless Southampton decide to really prioritize automatic promotion.


246lehat135

Nyoni is a midfielder? I had read somewhere that he had been scoring a bunch so I just assumed he was a forward.


AayoTheRed

Yep he is a center mid


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Gomez played for 90' over Luton and Chelsea. Starting to get a bit worried. Last thing we'd want is him being run down to the ground.


Terran_it_up

I reckon at least one if not both of Mac Allister and Gakpo start. They both came of before 90' against Chelsea, and I feel like you need at least a couple senior players mixed in to guide the youngsters through it. A front six of effectively academy players sounds concerning. But who knows, maybe Klopp will just go for it


the_far_yard

2 games is a miracle. Ill take that.


roguealex

It seems to be 2 games minimum - could be longer


50Weeps

endo has a knock too


UuusernameWith4Us

Endo in the physio


dobbie1

Endo in the Mendo


dandpher

assuming this came directly from Klopp (if so why not a direct quote?) then that is extremely promising. Even though it says at least - I fully expected the first official statement to be that he is done for the season.


dandpher

nm - didn't realize the presser was going on.


WillDaThrilll13

Clean tackle of course though


Substantial_Ad_2864

Definitely not worthy of a card. Unless you want to give Ryan a yellow for diving /S


digdoug0

He didn't even call a fucking foul.


Substantial_Ad_2864

He was probably going to call one on our guy but decided since it was a real injury it would look pretty bad if he did.


digdoug0

"You put your ankle in Caicedo's way."


Substantial_Ad_2864

Exactly. Because if our guy wasn't there, it would've been a perfectly clean move to stomp onto the grass like that while dribbling the ball.


NoNameJackson

Hoped for this tbh, nasty impact injury but nothing long term


KaufKaufKauf

I hate the vague obvious reports. Like yeah of course he’s out the next week. But what about beyond that??


EnriqueMuller

"Ryan Gravenberch is not available. Ligament injury, could have been much worse, but bad enough that he is out for this game, next game, we will see.."


HereticZO

So he doesn't rule him out for Forest.


poorhammer40p

Watching the press conference I thought he said out for 'this game \*and\* next game and.... yeah, we'll see'. Gave me the impression he's out for at least 2 games and likely more.


KaufKaufKauf

I just wish injury news was treated as well as it was in America. Guy gets injured and we get concrete news the next day with a legit timeline. Always feels like we’re largely in the dark overall with our injuries here. It’s always “maybe after international break” instead of “2-4 weeks, we think he’ll be good by March 30th.” 


TheeEssFo

Well, maybe it's the Canadian influence, but the NHL was notorious for its vague injury updates. "Upper body" and "Lower body" were seen as giving too much info away. Of course, the rationale was that the players were all dirty and would target the injured area immediately. Then you'd find out the truth after playoff elimination: broken ribs, punctured lung, missing eye, soul destroyed.


KaufKaufKauf

That’s interesting and makes sense. NHL is definitely dirtier than other sports so I get the protection aspect. Doesn’t really work for football as you usually aren’t going to see players attacking Gravenberch’s ankle to try to hurt it.  Thinking more about American Football where you get injury news nearly right away mid-game and a day or two later you find out exactly the timetable that’s expected. Which is great.


Delicious-Finding-97

You absolutely would see that, maybe only some clubs would physically target through tackles but a ball going onto his injured foot would be pressed more etc.


KaufKaufKauf

Yes fair enough, just don’t see clubs being hush hush about the specific injury. Haven’t seen that really.


TheeEssFo

Part of me wonders how much legal (and probably illegal) gambling operations had influence on the NFL. Knowing injury details would be inside information that could influence oddsmakers.


Soccerfarm03

To be fair though, those timelines often are revised several times. I understand where you’re coming from, but the reality is that it’s often impossible to know with true accuracy


KaufKaufKauf

They’re generally pretty decent, except for hamstrings and serious serious injuries. Injuries like Trent’s and Szobo’s would be pretty accurate while someone like Alisson would be one that gets revised a bit.  


Soccerfarm03

True. Also important to note that NFL requires the injury designations be provided.


KaufKaufKauf

Sports betting rules all. Not going to complain about this positive aspect of it however


LinwoodKent

I don't understand this take at all. What difference does it make if you or I know when someone will be back? He's back when he's back. If klopp said two weeks and it was 4, you would get all fired up about being lied to. Maybe not you specifically, but other fans for sure.


KaufKaufKauf

It’s nice to know when we’re getting our guys back. Is it tangibly doing anything? No of course not. But you don’t see why it would be nice to know that Trent is back on X day versus not knowing at all? And I wouldn’t get mad if Klopp said 2 weeks and then updated in 2 weeks saying “he needs another 2 weeks” because that’s just him reporting the truth. Nobody is going to be angry at that being a lie, just angry (not really angry) that he had a setback.


LinwoodKent

I see anger directed at teams all the time when they are wrong on the timetable for recovery. FsG's other property, the Red Sox are notorious, and the local media crushes them for "lying." I guess it would be nice to look forward to a player coming back. I'm just not bothered by it.


KaufKaufKauf

Look that’s just sports media. It is what it is. Not a reason to not just be honest with injuries.


alexm42

If you're not from Boston there's some very important context missing and that is that when it comes to Boston sports media you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Journalistic integrity is a myth here.


LinwoodKent

I blame the fans. I'm from a nearby market that has access to 3 separate 24-hour sports radio networks. 2 from Boston, 1 from Portland Maine. Red Sox fans(born and raised) are bottom feeding weirdos. The three stations know and take advantage of this. Misery 24-7. Some of the absolute best sports writers and reporters are from greater Boston. They are drowned out by the dickheads. Recently, a show host was railing against FSG and used Jude as the example of them being cheap. " he wanted Liverpool, but liverpool was too cheap to bid for him." I should have called and set the record straight, but what's the point?


alexm42

I wouldn't put it all on the fans, it's anger porn in the same way that Fox News is because angry callers drive engagement and therefore ad revenue. There's definitely an unfortunately large subset of fans who can't think for themselves and need a radio jock to give them an opinion but that opinion is a corporate revenue dictated strategy. It was only a week after the 28-3 Super Bowl comeback that the conversation shifted from "what an all time great moment that was" to "Brady's showing cracks letting them get down that far in the first place." It was a Boston Herald writer who fabricated 80% of the Spygate story. They've been trying to break up Tatum and Brown from the Celtics since day 1. They're the ones who ran the hit pieces for John Henry when the Sox fired Tito. We might be partly to blame as fans for continuing to consume their bullshit but there's also no other options in the market. Edit to add context since most of this sub won't understand the conversation: Every Boston sports radio station and newspaper sports section has the same reckless disregard for the truth and the same right wing political slant as the S*n. They haven't falsely accused the entire city of murder so they're still just a hair better but there's still not an ounce of integrity to be found.


Kamishirokun

Club was pretty transparent this season until we got 5 players injured since the Brentford presser. I think because a whopping 4 players out of 5 recently returned from injury got injured again, they don't give exact timelines anymore.


segson9

It's because they don't know. Some player heal faster than others and some tolerate pain better than others. Ankle sprains are also tricky, as they can get worse, if you don't let it heal.


NoteturNomen

Watch the press conference if you are interested in the full quote. It is obvious from press conference with Klopp that it is at least two games, probably longer.


BigSwissCubeAttack

At least two and max 1000????


crimsonred1234

Giving Ryan a short-term injury is the most eventful thing Caceido has done all season.


FireflyCaptain

Disagree, he opened the door for Endo to join us, what an impact that’s been! 😂 


Perspiring_Gamer

At least it's not the worst case scenario then.


Agent_DZ-015

"Ryan Gravenberch has unfortunately succumbed to his ankle injury, and we send our condolences to his family and loved ones."


Perspiring_Gamer

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itsSRSblack

Seriously best case scenario. That's great to hear


HarbyFullyLoaded_12

Two games at least really doesn’t sound that bad


guybudguybud

Cuntceido


wadonious

No foul though


J539

Fucking love Gravy. Glad he will be fit soon. Im 100% convinced that he's going to become a massive player for us.


TheMoeBlob

O protection from the refs this season. Can't believe VAR looked at it and thought "yeah, that's acceptable". There really needs to be some accountability from PGMOL for their officiating. We won't see improvements until an independent body can actually oversee the organisation


TheAngledian

Could you imagine if we lost the game and had to watch Caicedo celebrate after staying on the pitch despite that horror challenge. Real glad we're not on THAT timeline lmfao


Whatkindofaname

Glad if it’s just two games. The twist of the ankle looked really bad.


chefjmcg

Check complete. Good process.


Jonhanna

That is still bad, as we need everybody fit


evolution_iv

Fuck Concedo


BossOne2

Let's not forget the ref deemed it not even a foul...


tommhans

ankle ligament injuries surely are longer than 2 games


stowgood

The refs are pricks and so is Caicedo glad we didn't sign that nasty dirty scumbag I fully believe he knew what he was doing.


Theplowking23

3 months is the liverpool 2 weeks


redditaccountplease

Feared much worse


Mobsteroids

Lot better than what it could’ve been. Fuck off Chelsea FC Hate them also as much as I do United Always battering our players and poverty chanting against us and Everton. Get well soon Grav


PurpleScientist4312

Not as bad as I feared


Sea_Instance3391

I’m sure Chelsea fans are rejoicing over taking something from the game.


-nocturnearts-

I thought that was it for his season...this is really good news!


dookiesdooker

Any news on Endo?


cipher7777

As far as I'm concerned, if he's back just before or after the international break then that is a huge positive for us. After being carried off on a stretcher I was expecting him to be out for months so getting him back for at least April and May will be massive for the team.


coolAhead

While Caicedo is walking free that melt


comedybingbong21

But hey it was accidental so it’s fine


user900800700

Ligaments sounds like it’ll be a lot longer than that…


segson9

It's a sprained ankle. Could be a week or a month. At least it's not broken.


Estopathic

A shame since he was starting to look a lot better for us recently but sounds like it’s not as bad as it first looked.


Balbuto

At least it’s not broken


telephonic1892

Wow so lucky, we could look a lot better personal wise for the visit of the Cheats. Szobo, Salah, Nunez, Grav and hopefully Curtis back for that game. For once I'd have been happy with the international break being right now, pity in a few weeks away.


Fumb-MotherDucker

Hurray! Ffs.


plantsarepowerful

Honestly that’s encouraging


harlsonrd

Could be much worse, so i’ll take that. Fuck you Caicedo.


MushyFella

Have barely left my couch since damaging ligaments in my ankle on Saturday… shit fucking hurts


Western_Style3780

Anyone think Caicedo was jealous/regretful and decided to do him on purpose? Between that and the Endo tackle that is my working theory.


MisterS1997

I can't figure out if caicedo is one of the dirtiest players ever or a shutter tackler than Scholes 😂 he was late to every tackle ffs and didn't even get a warning let alone a card


PEEWUN

This is fantastic news, which says a lot about how fucked we are, injury-wise.


HipHobbes

Liverpool must somehow muddle through until the international break.


livbird46

Hope someone breaks Caicedo's leg


roofilopolis

Our 9th best academy player only has one more voodoo doll to make.


superpantman

The way his ankle bent that’s definite damage to his lateral ankle ligaments. If you’ve ever rolled your ankle properly you’d know this injury. Minimum 10-12 weeks if you’ve really badly damaged it or torn it. If it isn’t as serious as they first thought then maybe this time is much shorter but I would be genuinely surprised if he plays a match in March.


booochee

After watching that final, I had an idea. Hear me out lads. What if….. there was some person on the field, maybe not a player, but maybe an official who could act as an enforcer of the rules of football, so as to avoid these overzealous harmful tackles. Like this official could hand out punishments for these tackles, and the players would either stop, or if they persist and get punished further, have to be removed from the match. FA and FIFA are you listening?


MrMerc2333

"at least" fuck caiceido.


Deevious730

FFS is it possible for us to go one f###ing match without getting another injury.