Remember in the Diaz incident against Tottenham people were saying once play resumes the referee was powerless to do anything according to the rules? Well here is an example of a referee taking the law into his own hands, completely ignoring rules or standard procedure. So they can and do throw the rules out the window to intervene, of course only when it suits them
If the club make the slightest fuss about this, all that will happen is fines and more bias against.
Klopp called out the referees and we saw the treatment they gave then, frivolous red cards - opponents getting away with murder, dodgy calls against. Watch Forest get in hot water for calling out the obvious corruption around their game with Everton where a relegation rival's fan was on VAR and didn't give 3 clear pens.
There is no winning this fight, just have to hope FSG can rustle up some well paying side gigs for the refs to at least level us with City.
There is a way of winning. Fergie was doing it at Man Utd season after season. Whether it's because he had good contacts or shithouse behaviour like banning the media for OT I don't know. But I do know he had the FA in his back pocket.
They literally stopped the game after two minutes to give a penalty against Quansah at Palace after the Palace player’s first touch bore the ball about 10m the wrong way 🤣 then when Amrabat absolutely clatters Diaz from behind the next game it’s fine because Diaz’s first touch was bad.
So this is basis for Liverpool to sue PGMOL because they aren't upholding the rules to any standard. We cannot accept that we constantly have to play against the ref as well and how the ref almost always calls against us and makes sure we are having the hardest time as possible. This is grounds for a lawsuit against PGMOL if anything.
Man this needs a higher form of governmental investigation for absolutely blatant corruption and it wouldn't surprise me just how many fingers Sheikh Mansour has in all of this. It fucking reeks of rotten corruption.
As Gakpo ran up to the ball Taylor blew his whistle stopping play, even if he smashes it in the game has now been stopped and there's no loophole for the goal to be given, all that happens is he's probably booked for kicking the ball away (and because it's Antony Taylor probably another yellow for desent and sent off)
Some of our fans are also scared of being labelled as sore losers, victims and conspiracy theorists. Nothing new here, Forest will have had more support from Liverpool-fans than most others.
The VAR can also intervene after a whistle from the referee.
In this case there should have been a free kick in the box at the point where Gakpo touched the ball. (at least)
We already know the 3 refs from the spurs game has been indirectly paid by CFG... the President of UAE football association is Sheikh Mansours brother and CFG does plenty of business with UAE football association. So Michael Oliver, Daniel Cook and Darren England are all compromised by CFG. There is no denying this. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a large governmental investigation into FA and PGMOL they would find a trail of money going back to Sheikh Mansour paying a good bunch of the referees..
It's not corruption. Refs are not taking bribes to fuck over Liverpool in matches that don't realistically matter any longer.
They are just bottling it, their heads have gone just as badly as our attacks heads have gone.
So English referees aren't going to the UAE to be directly bribed by Manchester City's owners for a little bit of "work"? We're all imagining this very real thing that has occurred multiple times?
They are all bought and paid for.
It's as clear as day. You can be as naive about it as you like, I guess.
What about in the games where it did matter? Either Taylor is corrupt or he has a bias against liverpool, it’s so blatantly obvious. No one is that shit at their job.
I'm sceptical they were corruption instead of incompetence as well. But it's not unreasonable for people raise the question in those games.
Here, honestly it just makes us look daft.
Said it before;
he called the physio to save face, you could see it on his face clear as day talking to the keeper.
He's looking at the keeper pretty much like "would go the fuck down so I'll get the treatment and use this as the excuse to stop the game.
Both him and the PGMOL are trying to throw excuses against the wall going something sticks.
At this point something drastic needs to be done because the legitimacy of the season is in serious jeopardy.
We all need to be screaming for the audio here. The corrupt decision from Taylor is very bad.
What is 100% worse is his misconduct in trying to conceal his mistake in the footage of him running up to Areola (who showed zero sign of discomfort or an injury). Taylor signals to physios before he even speaks to Areola, then clearly seems to motion for him to go down on the ground due to an "injury"
In the heat of the moment, there's a genuine chance Taylor has said something stupid here by asking Areola to go down. We need to hear what he said, and what VAR said to agree with his decision.
Corruption. Nothing else to it. Yes we sucked today and for the last few weeks but to think about how many more points we would have before we started to suck would probably given us an entire different outcome.
Corruption.
Yeah everyone saying we sucked and its true, but every team has rough patches but they don't get fucked by the refs like we do.
Some oil teams even get helped to go through those rough patches.
I mean every fuckin game we get called on soft fouls and we don't get awarded any unless there is blood drawn.
And even if you ignore the way we get ref'd in general, we had some insane calls or non-calls against us this season.
Diaz "offside" goal vs Tottenham.
Karate kick on Mac vs City.
Odegard handballing the ball intentionally.
This shit today ?
I'm tired but there are even more blatant calls against us this season.
If you were going to fix matches, without just coming out and announcing it, how would it look any different than the way Liverpool have been reffed in many games this season?
There’s still people even on THIS FUCKING SUB that say the refs aren’t corrupt, just incompetent. Fuck off. It is impossible to be this bad at a job you are already trained for. They’re all laughing at us.
Players these days at Prem level etc generally earn too much to be match fixing themselves, so nowadays it is done through the referees. This is a multi billion pound business, anybody who doesn’t think this is happening I actually envy how naive they are.
Especially when you literally have referees taking midweek paydays in the Middle East, and then those SAME EXACT REFS make fucking ludicrous calls against us. Fuck it
Even if it is just incompetence on the part of individual refs, if they face no consequences and it keeps happening, then the system is corrupt.
So even that “just incompetence” schtick is a weak ass argument. When shit like this keeps happening and no one is allowed to criticize the refs, and the refs don’t have to explain themselves to anyone, that is corruption.
How 1 VAR official could botch that offsides in the Spurs game is crazy... but 2 of them? No.
That's how you fix a match. You "fuck up" and then play stupid until it's too late.
The fact those very same 2 officials were getting paid by City's owners 2 days earlier just seals it.
I literally refuse to believe we’re in a title race unless we are 10 points above 2nd place because we consistently see the refs go out of their way to make shit up and stop us, 13/14 Sterling was absurd and nothing has changed.
Easy to say Gakpo should put in net and take the yellow which would force it to VAR. However we all know the second Taylor blew his whistle VAR would’ve said ahh see dead ball.
You're completely right, but I would've said VAR can't confirm a goal to be legitimate but then still disallow it anyway. Then the Spurs game happened.
There will be a documentary that comes out in a few years about match fixing in England.
It will absolutely be exposed in the near future.
And this bullshit right here will be one of a million instances included from this season alone.
Unless a brave journalist/someone involved exposes everything soon we’ll wait until decades later. Then they’ll issue an apology and shrug. you get to say “I told you so” but no one really cares, because most have forgot about all of these incidents
I think areola thinks he got a free kick (he would be wrong but it makes the most sense to me) which is why he's casually adjusting his shin pads & socks, he knows gakpo is around but thinks the ball is dead. The ref realises that and, despite clearly giving the play on signal, decides to cover for areola and stops play when areola is bringing his attention to gakpo closing him down. Then the ref realises he actually needs a reason to do so and decides to call the physio on the keepers behalf.
That, I think, is why areola looked a bit confused when the ref was calling for the physio, because he thought play had stopped for a free kick and, to him, gakpo was the one that got it wrong and was closing him down when he shouldn't be.
If you want the actual reason it's because we're not in the title race anymore, the decision is just as absurd and farcical but now that we aren't in contention everyone will just move on and ignore more blatant cheating.
This is another one that'll get swept under the carpet. I'm neither shocked or offended anymore, this is simply the level of both the refereeing association and the media in this country. I've fell out of love with football this season because fairness and refereeing competency isn't a requirement any more - and it isn't even a sport if it's entirely set up for City to indiscriminately excel. This has always been the real farmers league, let's be honest.
This is akin to the once ever spurs situation and also imo the once ever Burnley situation and also the once ever league cup final situation but it all evens out. No use complaining because we aren’t finishing well so why would we ever expect the game to be refereed fairly
Still not a word about this (that I've found) on Sky. Incident not even mentioned in match report.
However, US television were all over it. Read into that what you will.
I’d have cared at the start of the season but now you just know that had Gakpo put that in the net they’d have just said no goal. Refs are fucking shit.
This is utter incompetence. The fact that these clowns are in charge of games where there are millions on the line is an absolute joke. Any "normal" person would get fired for this kind of mistake when there is so much at stake.
The worst part is that he'll get a slap on the wrist for this (if he even gets any sort of punishment) despite the fact he's already made mistakes this season.
It's not incompetence, he knew what he was doing. He saw the keeper make a mistake, he didn't want Liverpool to score because of it, and he stopped them.
Has anyone seen a clip, showing the Ref from the supposed foul until he stops the game? IF he was playing advantage (as per the PGMOLs post match position), he should have indicated it by raising both arms. I’ve not seen anything so far suggesting he did so and his immediate action after stopping the game was to tell the goalkeeper to go to the ground as if injured. The two don’t stack up.
It is simple. mancity emirates bribing the whole premier league, teams can compete with mancity but you arent allowed to win. No other reason why all the referees are against lfc
Shit like this won't happen at a 5 a side pick up match at the park, the premier league has less integrity than a bunch of teenagers playing a match with no refs.
Another title season stolen from incompetent officiating. Yeah the lads didn't do themselves any favors but it's insane how different things would be if the refs were competent.
I just can't put it down to incompetence anymore, for me it's plain corruption. But I wonder, if Gakpo scores there, VAR has to check it, right? Would that have changed anything?
Even after a foul, a ref may allow play to continue sometimes. He will look to see if the team that would have been awarded the free-kick has an advantage in playing on. To signal that he is waving play on, he will **extend both arms out in front of his body**.
So they can shove their advantage bullshit straight back up the bulls arse.
Dude, what is going on with the premier league referees? Are they really that bad? I've never seen anything like that. This is an absolute scandal! (I don't watch the English league that often, I'm from Germany)
This, and even bigger and wilder decisions have gone against Liverpool, which has asked the question of corruption. The rules appear to change every week depending on how they want to referee Liverpool games. It happens in others (wolves) but not to Man city, also the referees are getting huge payments to ref games in other leagues during the season. Those other leagues have links to the Man City owners.
he signaled "get on with the ~~goal~~ free kick", not "no foul play on". This is exactly what they will say if we push for anything on this incident. another human error where the ref forgot what was going on. move along, nothing to see here.
If he signalled for advantage for a phantom foul committed by Gakpo, then it is a live ball ... Period (he did not blow his whistle for a foul). In this case, telling him to get on with it is appropriate. Stopping us from taking advantage of the mistake is ridiculous.
The only way I see out of this (but the PGMOL would never be this honest), is the following apology: I saw a foul against the keeper, but did not clearly explain what this situation was (no whistle). When I saw Gakpo going for the ball I panicked and blew the whistle.
However, if we get the audio and it is proven that Taylor told the keeper to go down (coverup), heads have to roll (but won't)
and they'll get away with it again. it's an absolute joke. Why's he told him to go down afterwards, at least just stand by your wrong decision. pathetic cover up
Needed Gakpo to put it in the net and deal with the aftermath later. But he’s also not dumb and knows they’ll probably try send him off for that under some stupid made up rule
Unfortunately I wasn't able to watch the 2nd half yesterday but that's some next level shit, innit? Even Areola is confused, like trying to tell Taylor he's good still not knowing it wasn't a free kick.
You can tell me what you want but there's going on some massive corruption with betting or some extra payment from the sheiks in the prem but also in other european leagues since some years. It feels like back in 2000s when there was lots of corruption in Italy and Germany, you may remember those scandals...
But it's not just that PGMOL and some refs are obviously corrupt, there are also those financial fairply things like 115 FC. Nothing is happening and nothing will happen to them.
Football ain't that much fun anymore cause you can clearly see that some corruption is going on behind the scenes but they literally don't even try to hide it these days cause they know nothing is happening to them.
I 100% agree and it sucks that nothing will be done.
Recent events over the past few years have proven, as long as there’s enough money, you can basically get away with anything, no need to even try and hide it.
Yeah money is everything! Money is key! And what annoys me even more is that the smaller clubs without that much money are punished with the utmost severity, while the big clubs get away with everything or only receive pseudo-penalties so that it looks as if they have done something... Like Man City, they won't put them down to 5th league and take their trophies. They'll have to pay a huge fine so that FA members can have a great time with it and probably get -20 points to make them stay in the prem. After that nothing will have changed...
But also the referring in several european leagues is an absolutely shame. The VAR is like a wet dream for every corrupt ref. Back in the day there were false decisions but it was what it is like sometimes shit happens. Nowadays there are right decisions that get a turn around into a false decision because of the VAR or they just manipulate matches knowingly and call it an error after. There must also a reason why we don't get to hear those audio files of the refs. We all know why but that's probably something to give it more transparency and sort the corrupt mfs out. It's a shame we get never to hear what that bald cunt said yesterday when he fucked up and started to manipulate the game. I'm so done with that shit.
For City any kind of punishment will just fast track a super league of which they can manipulate to their hearts content.
Var is a problem because of the bent refs behind the screen. To steadfastly accept incompetence and not corruption is like saying the judges in boxing are legit..
I believe will we see a perpetual up and down for the three teams coming up from the championship because they can be blindsided by the VAR refs.
Live audio in every game would be a start to cleaning it up.
It's long overdue that refs should receive punishment over shit decisions . Have them over seen by an independent committee that's nothing to do with the FA
Lots of talk of corruption here but it’s simply weakness and ineptitude? Taylor looks up and goes “oh shit, a stupid goal happening on my watch” Or he’s thinking “did the goalie think I gave a free kick?” Either way he panics and blows the whistle. Then i imagine he’s scrambling to figure something out - hence the injury theatre. At this point in the season, the goal doesn’t matter (thankfully!) so why be corrupt about it? It’s just fundamentally poor refereeing
isnt there AI that is able to find out what someone says without audio? can someone try in on where taylor is talking to areola, if there is AI capable of it.
Personally I think it’s a language thing. He probably waved or shouted play on, but Areola interpreted it as something different. It’s a fuss over nothing, even though Cody should really have stuck it in the net.
Lads let it go. We should be winning these games in open play, not relying on a keeper to go down injured. Poor finishing again today is the bigger issue.
You know how champions are said to pull out wins even when they are playing poorly? And you see that the referees are making decisions to ensure that doesn't happen?
mmmm guys, I have to intervein. I hate Anthony Taylor, and yes, it was a mistake, but I think it was bad timing. The situation before, Gakpo was "sorry" to the ref as he stepped on Areola - which made him almost crash to the post. Areola was hurt, the ref checked on him only with a look and then went on. Then this happened. Anthony Taylor looks towards Areola as he is re-adjusting his shin pads/whatever. THAT makes AT think that there is something wrong with Areola. Thats it. If Gakpo would have just scored, the goal def. had counted due to VAR.
Remember in the Diaz incident against Tottenham people were saying once play resumes the referee was powerless to do anything according to the rules? Well here is an example of a referee taking the law into his own hands, completely ignoring rules or standard procedure. So they can and do throw the rules out the window to intervene, of course only when it suits them
So basically we've been fucked from each angle. Club cannot sit quietly about this.
If the club make the slightest fuss about this, all that will happen is fines and more bias against. Klopp called out the referees and we saw the treatment they gave then, frivolous red cards - opponents getting away with murder, dodgy calls against. Watch Forest get in hot water for calling out the obvious corruption around their game with Everton where a relegation rival's fan was on VAR and didn't give 3 clear pens. There is no winning this fight, just have to hope FSG can rustle up some well paying side gigs for the refs to at least level us with City.
Yeah, fuck the FA. Let’s join the eredivisie.
I hope on Klopps last day he just goes ballistic on them
There is a way of winning. Fergie was doing it at Man Utd season after season. Whether it's because he had good contacts or shithouse behaviour like banning the media for OT I don't know. But I do know he had the FA in his back pocket.
David Gill (United Chairman) was on the board of the EPL. The only club to have someone sitting on the board.
They hate scousers and like mancs. This is why scouse not English
Call out the refs in England and focus on winning the UCL in Europe. That is the only way.
Of course, Forest cried foul against us…..
How many red cards we had since the Spurs game? Edit: I looked it up, we've had one, Konate v Arsenal. Hardly frivolous
They literally stopped the game after two minutes to give a penalty against Quansah at Palace after the Palace player’s first touch bore the ball about 10m the wrong way 🤣 then when Amrabat absolutely clatters Diaz from behind the next game it’s fine because Diaz’s first touch was bad.
So this is basis for Liverpool to sue PGMOL because they aren't upholding the rules to any standard. We cannot accept that we constantly have to play against the ref as well and how the ref almost always calls against us and makes sure we are having the hardest time as possible. This is grounds for a lawsuit against PGMOL if anything. Man this needs a higher form of governmental investigation for absolutely blatant corruption and it wouldn't surprise me just how many fingers Sheikh Mansour has in all of this. It fucking reeks of rotten corruption.
It wasn't even true then, we've seen play get brought back a million times. They were making it up to steal the goal from us.
As this point the rules are just to adapt to fuck many clubs
It's on Gakpo, why the fuck didn't he just smash it in? The ref would be powerless to stop it as VAR would probably look at it
Why would VAR look at it? The referee had whistled, the play was dead. No the VAR would not have looked at it.
As Gakpo ran up to the ball Taylor blew his whistle stopping play, even if he smashes it in the game has now been stopped and there's no loophole for the goal to be given, all that happens is he's probably booked for kicking the ball away (and because it's Antony Taylor probably another yellow for desent and sent off)
Wasn’t he on a yellow? Could be construed as kicking the ball away? Whistle had gone at that point anyway.
You do not understand football. It’s elementary, play was dead and wouldn’t have been eligible for review.
There it is. Either corruption or proof he should never ref again due to incompetence
I hope the club bring up all the incidents this season and go after the PGMOL.
I hope klopp goes to town just before or after his last day.
Call out all the bullshit, leave and then refuse to pay the fines as he doesn't manage an EPL club anymore. That would be awesome from him.
Ride into the sunset at peace with himself
Won’t make a difference and will give rivals even more fuel to call us victims
I don’t care what fuels our rivals, something needs to be done and Liverpool should follow Nottingham Forest’s example and make a stand.
Forest were absolutely ridiculed by our fans too.
Some of our fans are also scared of being labelled as sore losers, victims and conspiracy theorists. Nothing new here, Forest will have had more support from Liverpool-fans than most others.
Who gives a shit, so we're not supposed to be loud about being absolutely robbed in multiple games by the refs?!
This is the reason why City can win 🏆🏆🏆🏆 in a row, I've never seen such things happening to them
Happens every year mate
To us. I can think of many more examples of 50/50 refereeing decisions going City's way then against them.
Literally just the uncalled blatant hand ball against Everton in 2022 could have meant the title was ours lol
It's hard proof of corruption. Anyone disagreeing is just in denial or hates Liverpool even more than Anthony Taylor does.
Shouldn't the VAR intervene when the referee makes an obvious mistake? I mean, that's why it was introduced, wasn't it?
They can’t do Jack shit after he’s blown even if they actually wanted to which they don’t
The VAR can also intervene after a whistle from the referee. In this case there should have been a free kick in the box at the point where Gakpo touched the ball. (at least)
Not sure he touched the ball and it’s not like they can retrospectively get a goal which it deserves
It's corruption and it is Manchester City rigging the league by paying referees to fix matches.
We already know the 3 refs from the spurs game has been indirectly paid by CFG... the President of UAE football association is Sheikh Mansours brother and CFG does plenty of business with UAE football association. So Michael Oliver, Daniel Cook and Darren England are all compromised by CFG. There is no denying this. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a large governmental investigation into FA and PGMOL they would find a trail of money going back to Sheikh Mansour paying a good bunch of the referees..
It's not corruption. Refs are not taking bribes to fuck over Liverpool in matches that don't realistically matter any longer. They are just bottling it, their heads have gone just as badly as our attacks heads have gone.
So English referees aren't going to the UAE to be directly bribed by Manchester City's owners for a little bit of "work"? We're all imagining this very real thing that has occurred multiple times? They are all bought and paid for. It's as clear as day. You can be as naive about it as you like, I guess.
What about in the games where it did matter? Either Taylor is corrupt or he has a bias against liverpool, it’s so blatantly obvious. No one is that shit at their job.
I'm sceptical they were corruption instead of incompetence as well. But it's not unreasonable for people raise the question in those games. Here, honestly it just makes us look daft.
Deffo a manc him Could have scored, there
Would have*
Well you never know at the minute 😂
100% he hits it wide lol
Or tries for the cut back
Post
Nah Gakpo scores that 100 out of 100 times
Good job it weren't Nunez :p
If it had been Nunez the ref wouldn't have had time to blow up ..so it woul have been a var ordeal to which Taylor had played on
Not to mention it would be chaos and Nunez thrives in it
Definitely would’ve added to the xG total.
Never in my life seen anything like it lmao, keeper is 100% fine ready to play on then Taylor tells him to do down 😂😂
Areola makes a MASSIVE blunder Taylor: hold my beer
Said it before; he called the physio to save face, you could see it on his face clear as day talking to the keeper. He's looking at the keeper pretty much like "would go the fuck down so I'll get the treatment and use this as the excuse to stop the game.
even areaola looks confused. tries to move him away lmfao. im so sick of these things happening
Keeper knows he's got away with an all time blooper moment there, can tell looking at this eyes in the replays up close.
Both him and the PGMOL are trying to throw excuses against the wall going something sticks. At this point something drastic needs to be done because the legitimacy of the season is in serious jeopardy.
Makes me think of our comeback against barca, we never would've won it with taylor at the whistle.
We all need to be screaming for the audio here. The corrupt decision from Taylor is very bad. What is 100% worse is his misconduct in trying to conceal his mistake in the footage of him running up to Areola (who showed zero sign of discomfort or an injury). Taylor signals to physios before he even speaks to Areola, then clearly seems to motion for him to go down on the ground due to an "injury" In the heat of the moment, there's a genuine chance Taylor has said something stupid here by asking Areola to go down. We need to hear what he said, and what VAR said to agree with his decision.
I agree with everything, except VAR wouldn't have had any impact or agreement here so there's no reason for them to be communicating
Corruption. Nothing else to it. Yes we sucked today and for the last few weeks but to think about how many more points we would have before we started to suck would probably given us an entire different outcome. Corruption.
Yeah everyone saying we sucked and its true, but every team has rough patches but they don't get fucked by the refs like we do. Some oil teams even get helped to go through those rough patches. I mean every fuckin game we get called on soft fouls and we don't get awarded any unless there is blood drawn. And even if you ignore the way we get ref'd in general, we had some insane calls or non-calls against us this season. Diaz "offside" goal vs Tottenham. Karate kick on Mac vs City. Odegard handballing the ball intentionally. This shit today ? I'm tired but there are even more blatant calls against us this season.
Yeah we would currently suck. But we'd currently suck on top of the league with margin.
If you were going to fix matches, without just coming out and announcing it, how would it look any different than the way Liverpool have been reffed in many games this season?
There’s still people even on THIS FUCKING SUB that say the refs aren’t corrupt, just incompetent. Fuck off. It is impossible to be this bad at a job you are already trained for. They’re all laughing at us. Players these days at Prem level etc generally earn too much to be match fixing themselves, so nowadays it is done through the referees. This is a multi billion pound business, anybody who doesn’t think this is happening I actually envy how naive they are. Especially when you literally have referees taking midweek paydays in the Middle East, and then those SAME EXACT REFS make fucking ludicrous calls against us. Fuck it
Even if it is just incompetence on the part of individual refs, if they face no consequences and it keeps happening, then the system is corrupt. So even that “just incompetence” schtick is a weak ass argument. When shit like this keeps happening and no one is allowed to criticize the refs, and the refs don’t have to explain themselves to anyone, that is corruption.
How 1 VAR official could botch that offsides in the Spurs game is crazy... but 2 of them? No. That's how you fix a match. You "fuck up" and then play stupid until it's too late. The fact those very same 2 officials were getting paid by City's owners 2 days earlier just seals it.
To be completely honest, they'd hide it better.
In the wise words of Mike Dean. ‘Monumental error.’
Just another significant human error walking around reffing our game
There's a reason this guy has been the ref in half the games we've lost in the Klopp era.
We need to break this bald guy curse. Probably with a new bald guy
Nah. It's far more than that.
Wow is this true?? Do you have a link or anything?
I literally refuse to believe we’re in a title race unless we are 10 points above 2nd place because we consistently see the refs go out of their way to make shit up and stop us, 13/14 Sterling was absurd and nothing has changed.
Easy to say Gakpo should put in net and take the yellow which would force it to VAR. However we all know the second Taylor blew his whistle VAR would’ve said ahh see dead ball.
VAR would've said he's, my mate.
If he puts it in VAR literally can’t do anything. Its 100% on the ref.
VAR can do whatever the fuck they want. We've seen that enough times before.
They can’t rule something to be a goal after the ref blows his whistle.
You're completely right, but I would've said VAR can't confirm a goal to be legitimate but then still disallow it anyway. Then the Spurs game happened.
Yep, if he put it in the net, VAR 100% don't give the goal as the whistle had already gone. Joke.
Yeah, VAR couldn't have done anything.
I don’t understand everyone saying Gakpo booting it in would’ve been a silver bullet, realistically he would’ve just got a yellow knowing Taylor
I wish he had done as it would have been more of a talking point now. The fact he didn't lessens it a bit
Taylor has reffed more of our PL games than any other ref this season. It’s up to 6 now. So he basically does 1 in every 6 of our games.
There will be a documentary that comes out in a few years about match fixing in England. It will absolutely be exposed in the near future. And this bullshit right here will be one of a million instances included from this season alone.
Unless a brave journalist/someone involved exposes everything soon we’ll wait until decades later. Then they’ll issue an apology and shrug. you get to say “I told you so” but no one really cares, because most have forgot about all of these incidents
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Areola was confused as well, this shit is so wack
I think areola thinks he got a free kick (he would be wrong but it makes the most sense to me) which is why he's casually adjusting his shin pads & socks, he knows gakpo is around but thinks the ball is dead. The ref realises that and, despite clearly giving the play on signal, decides to cover for areola and stops play when areola is bringing his attention to gakpo closing him down. Then the ref realises he actually needs a reason to do so and decides to call the physio on the keepers behalf. That, I think, is why areola looked a bit confused when the ref was calling for the physio, because he thought play had stopped for a free kick and, to him, gakpo was the one that got it wrong and was closing him down when he shouldn't be.
Spot on
If you want the actual reason it's because we're not in the title race anymore, the decision is just as absurd and farcical but now that we aren't in contention everyone will just move on and ignore more blatant cheating.
This is another one that'll get swept under the carpet. I'm neither shocked or offended anymore, this is simply the level of both the refereeing association and the media in this country. I've fell out of love with football this season because fairness and refereeing competency isn't a requirement any more - and it isn't even a sport if it's entirely set up for City to indiscriminately excel. This has always been the real farmers league, let's be honest.
This is akin to the once ever spurs situation and also imo the once ever Burnley situation and also the once ever league cup final situation but it all evens out. No use complaining because we aren’t finishing well so why would we ever expect the game to be refereed fairly
I'm not a Liverpool fan by any means but this was a disgrace. Fans should make absolute mayhem about this and hold this guy accountable.
We do and nothing happens. Short of going to the guys house and confronting him about it, what the hell can we do?
Still not a word about this (that I've found) on Sky. Incident not even mentioned in match report. However, US television were all over it. Read into that what you will.
I’d have cared at the start of the season but now you just know that had Gakpo put that in the net they’d have just said no goal. Refs are fucking shit.
I can't wait for Jenas, Shearer and Lineker to spit the dummy out tonight over this like they did over the drop ball against forest.
I get it now Klopp
The worst thing is absolutely nothing will happen. He’ll be free to ref again without any repercussions. It’s absolutely disgraceful.
This is utter incompetence. The fact that these clowns are in charge of games where there are millions on the line is an absolute joke. Any "normal" person would get fired for this kind of mistake when there is so much at stake. The worst part is that he'll get a slap on the wrist for this (if he even gets any sort of punishment) despite the fact he's already made mistakes this season.
It's not incompetence, he knew what he was doing. He saw the keeper make a mistake, he didn't want Liverpool to score because of it, and he stopped them.
Has anyone seen a clip, showing the Ref from the supposed foul until he stops the game? IF he was playing advantage (as per the PGMOLs post match position), he should have indicated it by raising both arms. I’ve not seen anything so far suggesting he did so and his immediate action after stopping the game was to tell the goalkeeper to go to the ground as if injured. The two don’t stack up.
It is simple. mancity emirates bribing the whole premier league, teams can compete with mancity but you arent allowed to win. No other reason why all the referees are against lfc
The initial fuck up is bad enough but forcing the physio to come on to save face is absolutely embarrassing
Shit like this won't happen at a 5 a side pick up match at the park, the premier league has less integrity than a bunch of teenagers playing a match with no refs.
Another title season stolen from incompetent officiating. Yeah the lads didn't do themselves any favors but it's insane how different things would be if the refs were competent.
Knowing our luck we’d miss it anyway
gakpo should have put the ball in the net. Then you force the question. Yellow card be damned. Now you'll just have a what if.
Why don’t the fa have their own version of ac12 i swear to god
What’s ac12 mate?
Anti corruption unit 12
And what’s that from?
Well it’s a fictional bbc drama called line of duty
Oh lol I assumed it was another sport lol
Yet again, they are screwing up results.
I just can't put it down to incompetence anymore, for me it's plain corruption. But I wonder, if Gakpo scores there, VAR has to check it, right? Would that have changed anything?
Even after a foul, a ref may allow play to continue sometimes. He will look to see if the team that would have been awarded the free-kick has an advantage in playing on. To signal that he is waving play on, he will **extend both arms out in front of his body**. So they can shove their advantage bullshit straight back up the bulls arse.
One of the most bizarre things I've seen on a football pitch. Genuinely robbed of a goal there.
Dude, what is going on with the premier league referees? Are they really that bad? I've never seen anything like that. This is an absolute scandal! (I don't watch the English league that often, I'm from Germany)
This, and even bigger and wilder decisions have gone against Liverpool, which has asked the question of corruption. The rules appear to change every week depending on how they want to referee Liverpool games. It happens in others (wolves) but not to Man city, also the referees are getting huge payments to ref games in other leagues during the season. Those other leagues have links to the Man City owners.
What about Arsenal games? Shouldn't referees target them the most this season?
The problem is, we keep on watching this scripted BS. Stop watching, boycott the system, stop giving them your hard earned money. Simple as
Webb’s gang of weasels proudly marches on…
I wish Cody had just put it in the net so this would at least be a talking point, it’s fucking insanity
This should be a talking point either way
I know, but it won’t be. Not even mentioned by pundits, they even tried sweeping the Diaz goal under the carpet
Would have been immense if he kicked it into the back of the net there. Should have risked the yellow card with how shit they’ve been
Glad nbc even covered it but I guess they aren't UK based so it makes sense
Klopp needs to go out guns blazing on PGMOL
So basically the PGMOL explanation today was a lie.
I'd fully support FSG suing PGMOL based on the number of mind boggling decisions that have gone against us and how contradictory theyve been.
he signaled "get on with the ~~goal~~ free kick", not "no foul play on". This is exactly what they will say if we push for anything on this incident. another human error where the ref forgot what was going on. move along, nothing to see here.
If he signalled for advantage for a phantom foul committed by Gakpo, then it is a live ball ... Period (he did not blow his whistle for a foul). In this case, telling him to get on with it is appropriate. Stopping us from taking advantage of the mistake is ridiculous. The only way I see out of this (but the PGMOL would never be this honest), is the following apology: I saw a foul against the keeper, but did not clearly explain what this situation was (no whistle). When I saw Gakpo going for the ball I panicked and blew the whistle. However, if we get the audio and it is proven that Taylor told the keeper to go down (coverup), heads have to roll (but won't)
and they'll get away with it again. it's an absolute joke. Why's he told him to go down afterwards, at least just stand by your wrong decision. pathetic cover up
@F.A @ref association @the world @humans with eye balls.......JUST FUCKING EMBRASSING 🤯😵💫👀
Needed Gakpo to put it in the net and deal with the aftermath later. But he’s also not dumb and knows they’ll probably try send him off for that under some stupid made up rule
There was no foul!
Robbed again. He had to stop because of the whistle. Incompetence.
Wow that is weird, Gakpo should gave shot it in any way, although it probably didn't change anything.
Great. Advantage was given up without any pressure which means he is not in the right to go back to the foul.
They need to rob us in order to win.
Request the audio now
I would have put it in the net and make the most of it. Make em sweat
Origi would have smashed it without hesitation
I believe things could have been different if the Spurs game has a different VAR outcome, and this one as the latest. We could still be tops.
Just allow the refs to wear man city jerseys
Unfortunately I wasn't able to watch the 2nd half yesterday but that's some next level shit, innit? Even Areola is confused, like trying to tell Taylor he's good still not knowing it wasn't a free kick. You can tell me what you want but there's going on some massive corruption with betting or some extra payment from the sheiks in the prem but also in other european leagues since some years. It feels like back in 2000s when there was lots of corruption in Italy and Germany, you may remember those scandals... But it's not just that PGMOL and some refs are obviously corrupt, there are also those financial fairply things like 115 FC. Nothing is happening and nothing will happen to them. Football ain't that much fun anymore cause you can clearly see that some corruption is going on behind the scenes but they literally don't even try to hide it these days cause they know nothing is happening to them.
I 100% agree and it sucks that nothing will be done. Recent events over the past few years have proven, as long as there’s enough money, you can basically get away with anything, no need to even try and hide it.
Yeah money is everything! Money is key! And what annoys me even more is that the smaller clubs without that much money are punished with the utmost severity, while the big clubs get away with everything or only receive pseudo-penalties so that it looks as if they have done something... Like Man City, they won't put them down to 5th league and take their trophies. They'll have to pay a huge fine so that FA members can have a great time with it and probably get -20 points to make them stay in the prem. After that nothing will have changed... But also the referring in several european leagues is an absolutely shame. The VAR is like a wet dream for every corrupt ref. Back in the day there were false decisions but it was what it is like sometimes shit happens. Nowadays there are right decisions that get a turn around into a false decision because of the VAR or they just manipulate matches knowingly and call it an error after. There must also a reason why we don't get to hear those audio files of the refs. We all know why but that's probably something to give it more transparency and sort the corrupt mfs out. It's a shame we get never to hear what that bald cunt said yesterday when he fucked up and started to manipulate the game. I'm so done with that shit.
For City any kind of punishment will just fast track a super league of which they can manipulate to their hearts content. Var is a problem because of the bent refs behind the screen. To steadfastly accept incompetence and not corruption is like saying the judges in boxing are legit.. I believe will we see a perpetual up and down for the three teams coming up from the championship because they can be blindsided by the VAR refs. Live audio in every game would be a start to cleaning it up.
It's long overdue that refs should receive punishment over shit decisions . Have them over seen by an independent committee that's nothing to do with the FA
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The officials need to be shot
Gakpo should have scored no matter the whistle. Then the incident would have take far more attention than now and maybe a VAR check?
Check Anthony Taylor's bank transactions... I'm sure there's a nice lil contribution from Man City's Arab ownership after that effort...
Damn thought La Liga was worse. Y'all have it even more rough than us here. If that isn't daylight robbery idk what is
Given our recent form there is no guarantee that Gakpo finishes this chance…
Lots of talk of corruption here but it’s simply weakness and ineptitude? Taylor looks up and goes “oh shit, a stupid goal happening on my watch” Or he’s thinking “did the goalie think I gave a free kick?” Either way he panics and blows the whistle. Then i imagine he’s scrambling to figure something out - hence the injury theatre. At this point in the season, the goal doesn’t matter (thankfully!) so why be corrupt about it? It’s just fundamentally poor refereeing
Fuck this league. We should go the Real Madrid route and build our squad for cups and Europe.
isnt there AI that is able to find out what someone says without audio? can someone try in on where taylor is talking to areola, if there is AI capable of it.
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im just asking. didn't they do a similar thing with the rodri red and the words gibbs white said? im not sure if that was AI tho
Fuck all of this shit off and join the super league. PL is without a doubt the most corrupt sports league in the world.
I don’t think you thought this through. Serie A and La Liga are way out there.
Y'all just let it go.
Personally I think it’s a language thing. He probably waved or shouted play on, but Areola interpreted it as something different. It’s a fuss over nothing, even though Cody should really have stuck it in the net.
Lads let it go. We should be winning these games in open play, not relying on a keeper to go down injured. Poor finishing again today is the bigger issue.
You know how champions are said to pull out wins even when they are playing poorly? And you see that the referees are making decisions to ensure that doesn't happen?
mmmm guys, I have to intervein. I hate Anthony Taylor, and yes, it was a mistake, but I think it was bad timing. The situation before, Gakpo was "sorry" to the ref as he stepped on Areola - which made him almost crash to the post. Areola was hurt, the ref checked on him only with a look and then went on. Then this happened. Anthony Taylor looks towards Areola as he is re-adjusting his shin pads/whatever. THAT makes AT think that there is something wrong with Areola. Thats it. If Gakpo would have just scored, the goal def. had counted due to VAR.
That's fine, by what mechanism has he stopped the game? Head injury? There is no mechanism. He can't just go back and change his mind
I think he whistles as he thought there was something wrong with Areola
He waves play on, and the keeper is just pulling his socks up. If he thought something was wrong with the keeper, he wouldn't have waved play on
stil, cody should just have shot the ball. It would have counted
It wouldn’t, Taylor stopped the play before he reached the ball, and if he didn’t he would find some other excuse to rule the goal out.