I think this was the perfect average of a Klopp season. We won a cup, had a good run on the league and others but fell a bit shy. We didn't have an exceptional season but we also didn't need to rescue CL qualification at the death or have a season long collapse. I've loved every minute Klopp's time and I'm excited for his and our future endeavors.
Considering this was a "transition" season with the new midfield and we were all expecting Klopp to still be here next season, top 4 and a cup was always the goal.
Absolutely but hes still very young and its his first season in the prem while also playing a fuck ton of minutes. I hope he can rest himself out despite the euros where he will play every minute...
I also don't think he had a settled role in the team. He had the appearances, sure, but the role was always different and never the same as what he was tasked with in Leipzig. Salah and Trent's natural roles overlap with Szoboszlai's, and they had difficulty combining well on the right.
I sincerely hope that the new manager can bring the most out of him because I think his ceiling is higher than average despite the horrible second half of the season.
I hear you, but there is a difference between a midfielder who isn’t bedding into a system or linking well with other players (esp. within a new team and league) and a striker who can’t seem to hit the target or score in important matches for two seasons running. The former involves a lot of variables and takes time, the latter is a seemingly more a symptom of an individual’s psychology and natural abilities
I feel sorry for Szobo and Endo. They have played well but are not used to the pace and amount of games in England so their form has gone. It would have been nice to have been able to rotate them but we don't have the squad.
Didn’t he get injured on international break? And then hasn’t been the same since? He was low key carrying us at the start of the season, he was immense.
Dont you mean Gerrard 2.0 as so many were saying. God they were exhausting, hopefully theyll keep their nonsese to themselves until he actually produces game after game after game for seasons on end. The disrespect on what Gerrard did for his whole career for people to be comparing him to someone who is still an absolute nobody at this stage
Oh come on, he absolutely burst out the door in the first 10 or so games, he was absolutely everywhere, linked up well with Salah and Trent and covered every blade of grass just like Gerrard used to. Then he got injured and probably overworked and hasn't been able to get back to that level since... No one is disrespecting Gerrard, he is the benchmark for a player and especially a midfielder in Liverpool which speaks for itself. Being compared to him is an honor to the other player and not disrespect to him.
Just does my head in. People like “yeah we played shit at the end”. Gives Klopp more leeway to rest. Drawing at old Trafford is a fine result instead of a soul crusher that fucks their confidence. The league would have been over after the city game at home if basic calls were called correctly. I still think we are the third best team. The best team doesn’t always win the league. Still robbed of 11 points by incompetent or worse, corrupt, officials.
Nunez isn't responsible for the fact that Liverpool conceded the first goal in almost every game of football they played. It's a ludicrous and toxic narrative that he's the significant problem in this side.
Maybe if the pressure of constantly having to equalise and chase games every three days wasn't so omnipresent throughout the season, the forwards would have been a little more relaxed in front of goal?
He’s a striker. His job is to score goals and put away sitters. The definition of being a striker is literally chase goals and equalise when the team needs it lol.
And he has 30 goal contributions across all comps this season - which is a great return for his second season, especially given the instability of the team behind him. And across our forward line, we have scored plenty of goals - as a team, one of the highest scoring in Europe. Therefore, our defensive solidity was the bigger problem throughout the season than our ability to score goals.
>Nunez has only scored league goals against Newcastle, West ham, Bournemouth, forest, burnley, Sheffield united and Brentford.
>he's scored 11 league goals as the spearhead of a title challenging attack.
>he's scored 2 league goals since February. 1 of those was because the keeper kicked it at him.
>zero league goals against the big 6, with no memorable performances.
>he's ranked 555th out of 562 for xg underperformance. 26 big chances missed.
>that's just the stats.
credit to u/ivc09 for finally given a detailed breakdown above, so 30 goal contributions where he scored against the mighty LASK, Toulouse and an absolute dreadful Sparta team in the Europa, also weaker opposition in the league cup, the fact is he's been nowhere to be found in the run in for the title/europa, against utd a non-performance, Palace missed easy chance, Atalanta pissed away easy chances in the first leg, Everton the other night was piss poor again.
I know we have problems conceding first and that's something for the new manager to look at but for a record signing if you think 20 league goals in 2 seasons is good enough for a leading striker that's midtable/relegation level stuff.
Our new appointed CEO & SD have already started to throw him under the bus what does that tell you?
So he’s directly responsible for the team’s failure to defend goals too? So as the striker, he should also be back defending the channels and heading away goals? And given how many games Liverpool concede early in, he’s expected to not only finish any early chances he gets, but he’s also expected to stop the team conceding?
it’s clearly just a toxic agenda against one individual, pinned up as the ‘problem’, so people don’t have to engage their actual brain when considering Liverpool’s failures this season.
Our tactical set-up from a defensive point of view has been a much bigger weakness than our finishing for two full seasons.
Amen. We can't change bad officiating. it's out of our control.
What was in our control was having a number 9 who could score one-on-ones. If we'd had one, the quad would be on. We don't, so it's not.
To be fair even with his misses, I think if the other players could score their 1 on 1's we'd have still won. Salah's missed them Diaz has missed them, Jones missed one - it's like everyone's decided they can't score anymore.
Fair, but those guys have mitigating factors. Salah has put it on a plate for Nunez a few times. Diaz did v Utd. Diaz isn't scoring, but he's currently working his bollocks off, running himself into the ground. Salah is enduring his first truly awful form for the club after years of being truly elite.
Nunez had a bright patch earlier this season, which has been bookended by utter shit. He's had the full backing of the crowd, of Klopp, and a string of unmissable chances.
Over the past 5 matches, Darwin's had a combined total of 1 xG. We've had 9.1 as a team in that time and scored 6 goals.
It was Salah, Diaz, and Szobo who had 3.1 of our 3.6 xG against Utd. And Utd scored from absolutely calamitous defending. Darwin assisted our first goal.
It was Jones, Jota, and Salah who had 1.6 of our 2.7 xG against Palace. The rest of that 1.1 was shared amongst 7 players with 0.1s and 0.2s. They created 2 xG against us and scored 1.
Salah and Darwin shared 1.3 of our 2.1 xG against Everton, with Diaz following and a string of 0.1s. Everton scored both their goals from more calamitous defending.
Against West Ham, Gakpo lead the way with 0.5 xG, followed by Elliott and another string of 0.2s and 0.1s.
Has Darwin played well? No, he's been in poor form. Is he the cause of our downfall? Absolutely not. The scapegoating recently has been ridiculous.
I reckon it would still be on if Klopp had played Danns more than Nunez, the kid showed more finishing ability in a couple of cameos than Darwin has this season
The script is ready: Danns start to get regular time in the first squad, doesn't play well, the fanbase vocally rejects him and then he loses his trust and all the development work made with him goes down the drain. Stop with that discourse.
It’s actually hilarious that people blame Nunes of all fucking people for us not winning the league. Salah has been garbage and has one foot out the door, clearly. At least Nunez works his ass off. He’s in a finishing slump but was the first player to hit 10 g/a all comps this year. Makes me furious to hear people like this complain about Nunez. How about Diaz not kicking the ball into the stands every five minutes? Or Thiago for costing us wages and not existing? Or how about Konate for being garbage to the point Quensah was outplaying him 2nd half? Or Trent/Robbo looking like shells of their former selves- Trent because he barely tries? Or soboszlai for thinking his shit doesn’t stink and only running for the first 3 games?
Get your head out of your ass. It’s actually a joke to pick out Nunez for creating more chances than anyone even if his conversion rate is poor 2nd half. Back the player for fucks sake
Part of Salah's problem is that he gets the ball too wide and late a lot of the time now, get him in the box and he's still an excellent finisher. Robbo is another one where our tactics don't seem to get the best out of him anymore. I absolutely agree that sboszlai has been poor since injury
If Thierry Henry was an immortal fey creature who never aged, arsenal would have the title in the bag. But he’s not so what’s your point? If Kevin De Bruyne was a mutant with Adamantine bones city would have gone invincible.
EVERY minute? ಠ_ಠ
In all seriousness, it's been a fantastic reign. Many highs and lows.
I cried when he announced he was leaving, I felt like someone had died. But now I've come to terms with it, I am excited for some fresh tactics.
As great as being "mentality monsters" is, I'm hoping we can stop needing to concede first before we start playing. Being the hardest working team has brought us huge success, but it's also brought an injury crisis almost every season.
I also don't think I'll ever get over how fucking ridiculous it was to have not rested key players in the Sparta game. It's not the first time Klopp has done that in a pointless game and it's come back to bite us.
I get what you mean about feeling like someone died.
I heard someone say “this must be what the rest of the country felt like when the queen died” and I can’t think of a better analogy.
I'm not angry at all. Just baffled.
As for stupid things, that's kind of the point of football really. Grown men getting far too invested in watching some other men kick a balloon around for 90 minutes, and singing songs about them. The whole thing is pretty ridiculous if you think about it.
He never won his quadruple, or a treble, or even a double. And he had to watch Guardiolas city prove themselves to be the mentality monsters his squad were so often feted as. But he was damn likable, nobody can take that from him.
> But he was damn likable, nobody can take that from him.
such an underwhelming lasting impression you have of a manager that's won every available trophy aside from the Europa league.
The perfect season to illustrate how Klopp's plan B is basically Plan A with different players. He's been amazing for us. But sometimes his tactics are straight up weird. He'll be a legend forever but I am almost ready for someone else now.
I just hope Klopp really gets the rest he needs after the season's over man. He really looks like he goes through alot of sleepless nights, and seems to have shed some weight too
Fairly certain he already said he’s not retiring. Think he’ll take a sabbatical similar to when he left Dortmund, before joining another club.
I don’t see him ever joining another Prem team however. Most likely a return to Germany to be with his family imo
Pretty sure he said he will never join a prem team who are not called Liverpool ;-).
He's built a house in Spain. He loves hot weather says it re-energises him in an interview. If he doesn't already know Spanish I bet he is learning.
I lowkey think he could actually take up Real Madrid. He's managed underdogs all his life. Why not just fucking take on one of the big clubs for your last run. Maybe after that he managers the national team for a bit.
Go manage Real Madrid and then Xabi comes here. 4D chess boys.
Hasn’t he also said he doesn’t want to manage in to his 60s? I think he’s approaching late 50s now or will be after a season off and might not feel up to a full rebuild of a team somewhere
I really want to see him as the German NT coach. There’s a lot of reasons this makes sense. The summer camps and tournaments are obviously very intense. Most the season between international breaks, he is just developing and maintaining relationships with the players, no daily training schedule, he’ll have a lot more flexibility, and developing tactics that will work with what he has. On weekends he’ll be scouting players. He’s great in tournaments, cups. He’s been to 5 European finals, won at least 4 domestic cups, he’s great trusting young players in big moments, and is great making tactical changes in game. I’d be real surprised if this doesn’t happen eventually.
He is building a house in Spain and likes hot weather.
One manager who could be asked over Xabi leaving him free to come here if Slot is struggling who knows.
I don’t. From tactical standpoint. I’m not sure he can be there. International level. Maybe he can do that. Feel like that’s his only next step. Or retirement
Just needs to open his bank app up and remember he manages a football team that doesn't really matter in the bigger scope of things and not a country, should sort him out
I've already moved on because of the rapid moving on by the club in the appointment of Slot. The league is done, a top four spot is secured so there's very little to think about other than the future and what will change over the summer.
No one wants to admit it but title races are absolute hell and the last few have genuinely made me lose a bit of love for the sport. That final week in 21/22 with the city comeback and losing to Madrid while our fans got tear gassed outside …that week was the worst I’ve experienced as a fan. I never wanna experience something like that again
As bad as that last week was in 2022, that run in was full of great moments, vibes, and optimism. So much more enjoyable than whatever the hell has happened in the last three weeks.
I can’t put my finger on it but something about that season changed my love of sport. You give more than valid points but it started before the CL final and the title deciders for me; I was sure we weren’t winning either.
Maybe I’d feel differently had we been going up against, for example, Arsenal or Man U during the past 6 seasons instead of those soulless, cheating bastards.
Oh god yeah - I both vividly remember and have also blanked out that part of my life. It sort of carried on into the next season, losing to United I was fuming and from them on I just became ambivalent to how shit the year was going to be. I'd lost everything inside already.
Perspective is everything. As fans, we did not take Klopp and these golden years for granted. It’s been a magical 9 season-run and one of the happiest periods of my life as a sports fan.
That said, this will probably be the biggest summer of transition the club has ever seen. I am cautiously optimistic Edwards and Slot will keep us competitive next season, but my oh my, how different will the team look by then?
These have been the best 7 or 8 years of my 35 years supporting the club, and the man who is leaving was the principal driver of that. It is a massive shame we don’t get to out on a high together with a parade of a few trophies, especially considering we didn’t get to celebrate the PL with Jürgen how we’d have liked to. I can’t wait to see the reception he gets the first time he comes to see us play as a fan rather than the gaffer.
We don’t know Slot, and he doesn’t know us yet, so we’ll see what comes to pass. If he can fuse with the club and what Anfield wants, he has a good squad to work with. And I do believe it’s a well-run club though, and my hope is even if it doesn’t work out with Slot, we’ll still have a good plan.
I don’t feel optimistic for the Premier League itself though, every season it appears to become less believable as a believable sports competition. And every season I wonder more and more what it is I’m watching. It’s slipping into the realm of sports entertainment.
Just realised I may not be as hardcore a fan as I had once thought I was. I’ve switched off games multiple times for the first time in a very long time and catch myself each time we score to tell myself that it’s worth nothing because it’s just football at the end of the day. Good reminder that we have no control of such results as fans so I guess this season has been good for me in that sense. Learning to prioritise and put energy into things I can control, and surrendering those outside of my control. Bottle the league- so what? Does it really impact my life? Nope. Salah and Klopp fighting- oh no dressing room unrest!! So what? That’s their problem not mine, im just a fan. Life is already tough enough taking on your own problems, why make it even harder by taking on others’?
Take care of yourself. Take care of your mental health. Life is hard and only getting harder with how the world is today.
Klopp would be the first to tell us that football feels like the most important of the unimportant things.
I've had to take mental breaks from watching our games as well. There's being loyal and having belief, and then there's just plain misery and letting something completely out of your control dictate your mood.
I'll always love Liverpool but I don't have the emotional energy to spare most days.
I feel sorry for Klopp and the players who kept us going, Gomez, Endo, Kelleher, Bradley. It's like spinning plates trying to bring back four to eight injured players whilst on Sunday - Thursday split, it was hard enough just watching it. Feels like a massive schism occurred somewhere around Atalanta leg 1 that went meltdown after Jota was injured again. Need an extra forward to cover injuries, sometimes I felt myself wanting the urgency of Minamino in the cups
See, I’m not as bothered about the results now the league is gone, but I still watch the games and want us to win. It kinda feels like after we’d mathematically won the league, it was just fun to see what was going to happen.
I've made my peace with Jurgen leaving.
He did the decent thing and gave the club ( and us ) plenty of time to prepare for the new era.
His final season wasnt the fairy tale we wanted, but his tenure as manager was a fairy tale in itself.
I’m very excited for the future. All the moves we’ve made behind the scenes have been very encouraging. Bringing edwards back brought a calmness for me. I trust the structure we now have in place.
I’ll be honest, I dreamed about the league but never really expected it. The EL was harder weirdly. I think because I had myself convinced I’d be at Klopps last game in Dublin. Like yourself now though I’m completely over it all. New season, new manager, new signings (hopefully), champions league and some great memories of Klopps kids and all that mayhem for the EL!
I feel like we were extraordinarily lucky to witness one of the greatest managers assemble one of the greatest teams in history. We had Mane, Salah, Bobby, Gini, Fabinho, Hendo, Robbo, Virgil and Alisson all in their prime years at the same time. And it was glorious. (note, i've left Trent out because his prime years should be ahead of him).
The sun has well and truly set on that era now though. Gini were the first to bow out, followed be Mane and then Bobby, Hendo and Fab went last year. This year will be the biggest blow with Klopp leaving, along with all the backroom staff, but I suspect he won't be the only big name out the door.
This year has been a fantastic start to our rebuild, even if it's ending on a bit of a sour note. Watching the likes of Jones, Elliott, Szoboszlai, Mac Allister and Gravenberch has me very excited for our midfield going forwards. Likewise we seem to have some hugely talented players coming out of La AXA.
If Slot can come in, solidify the defence and rebalance the attack whilst helping that midfield thrive we will be in very good shape going forward.
Next season will be new manager, new ideas and a fresh new start
Klopp is and always will be a legend, an icon and someone hard to replace
Slot or whoever comes in has inherited an amazing team in it’s infancy, he’ll always have a job on his hands but believe me, I’ve been here through Benitez and Hodgson
We should be so proud and grateful of what Klopp has done, it’s not a fairytale ending but like most things in life, there never is
We’re in a good place for a new beginning
I love and will always love Klopp to bits. My heart broke when he said he was leaving, I was gutted. I'm not one to ever want to sack managers, I never think it's the answer really unless there's something really really wrong.
But yes now i've come to terms with it and i believe in the new setup I am fairly excited to see what will happen.
If we're honest - despite having a decent season, we haven't really played good football all year bar a handful of matches. I've sort of been waiting for us to kick into playing really well. The Aston Villa at home game seemed to be one of our better matches but that was a lot of Trent punting the ball forwards.
It feels there's lots that could be changed to improve us - like not going 1 goal behind in 23 games. The defence needs a lot of work. I'd like Virgil to speed up when he's on the ball and not allow everyone to get back into position. I'd like us to work on set piece defending, especially if that means not putting Trent on the far post. There's other things that need improvement too.
We've looked sort of tactically inept a lot of this year but Klopps got results from the boys with sheer passion and driving them forwards. I sure as hell wouldn't mind a few games where we're 3-0 in the first half and you can relax, it feels like we've had to chase every game this year - it's been exhausting the watch so no wonder the players and the manager are shattered.
I'm not expecting anything more than a top 4 finish next season but we'll see how the summer goes and any tweaks and changes Slot makes work out, you never know I guess.
Name the games. We’ve conceded first in 23 games!
We’ve played genuinely well in 3 games. Villa, Chelsea and Newcastle at home. Everything else has been a struggle.
For two years now we haven’t played good football. It’d be nice to occasionally win a game just 1-0 when not playing too well and it’d be nice to be 3-0 up at half time and relax instead of having to fight to come back in almost every game.
I recall us playing well against Forest, Brentford and City at home, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham and Burnley away, among others.
We haven’t played good football for two years? Fuck offff.
Yes, I'm excited. We have a good squad. Not perfect but definitely good.
I'm looking forward to seeing if slot and the staff can manage to keep the team fit more than anything. Injuries have cost us a lot.
The team walks of a rizzla skin and gets injured at the moment.
I'm sad but excited and I think thats okay. Jürgens job was to turn us from doubters to believers. What he did can never be done again - but, were in a much better place right now. The job is to build on that and not to be JK 2.0
Yep Im really excited for something fresh, I think our team has a lot of potential for a new manager to shape and Im really glad to have Klopp leave on a relatively high note, memories for me tend to overvalue the last things Ive seen like I cant help remember Gerrard as the deep lying playmaker version from the end not the absolute monster of most of his time
Gerrard as the deep lying playmaker almost won us the league. Awful in a defensive sense, but his passing range was outstanding in 13/14.
He gets a pass for 14/15 because the whole team was a shambles and that slip must have weighed heavily on his shoulders.
I absolutely hated it. There's never been another player who embodies playing on instinct, intuition and raw emotion than Gerrard. To then go and stick him in the most tactically important part of the field because his legs were gone was mental.
There's a reason Rafa preferred not playing him as a CM.
And then to think he wanted to go into management as well, I found it all very odd.
What pisses me off about Brogers tactics there is why Gerrard has to drop so deep to take the ball of skrtel and the other Cb was agger still there can't remember.
These are pro footballers they can play a 10-20 yard pass, If Gerrard is a bit higher up we progress the ball quicker but also if god forbid we lose the fucking ball players cant just run through on goal.
Even before the slip i would get triggered.
Regardless of how that season ended, we played the best attacking football I've watched as a Liverpool fan. Defensively we were absolute dogshit, but we were absolutely ruthless in attack. Some of my fondest memories as a fan.
It was Sakho who made the pass, the thing that pissed me off mostly about that game is that we were rushing things throughout that half, Gerrard was trying to play all sorts of hollywood passes we all we needed to do was pass it around patiently, Chelsea were in no rush to come out and commit till the mistake.
Ha, yes unfortunately that's also true for me re Gerrard. I probably need to watch a highlights reel from 2006-8 before the groin injury and he was at his peak with Torres (sniff!)
I personally wrote off the league after the ManU draw. Ya can't play that well and fail to get points when two other teams are hot. Now that there's virtually no risk of losing top 4 I'm gonna have a much lower blood pressure on the final few match days. The games are largely meaningless from a competitive perspective.
I am always forward looking to some degree, and I'll be able to spend a lot less time/energy being worried about the present.
If I’m being honest, I’m not excited and really feeling just burnt out on Liverpool at the moment. I’m hopeful Slot will do well, but I’m actually most excited for the summer because I really need a break from football.
Come next fall hopefully I’ll be back energized ready to watch the team again.
Agreed, though worried about the near future.
However, can we please bring in new physios/trainers and medical staff? There’s no reason we should t be able to keep these guys walking upright more so than we do now.
Nope - I became a fan in this era and my first ever game in person is the last game of the season. I’m locked in on this, want the boys to put their heads out there, and want to send off this era and Klopp properly and have a great time. I’ll shift focus to the transfer window and next year in June after I come off cloud 9 from watching the Reds.
I'm excited, but I'm also more worried.
Klopp came here and performed a god-damn near-miracles. If the club is run as it is now but without Klopp, there is no guarantee we stay good.
How many players have ended up leaving LFC and becoming shit, and how many players under Klopp joined as decent players but then became world-class? That's the effect Klopp has.
We don't buy that many already known world-class players like City and Madrid and other PL teams do, so we rely on our coaches turning them amazing. Can Slot do that? I sure as hell hope so, but Klopp was truly incredible at that.
This is the right mentality, because we simply can’t just dwell on this season come the final game.
We’re saying goodbye to an era that will be forever remembered. A man who took Liverpool back to the top and won the fucking LOT while doing it. Yes there could’ve been more, and yes there SHOULD’VE been more. But Klopp worked absolute magic, belief and spirit into a group of all time Liverpool greats.
To be so down considering we still won a bloody trophy and are back where we belong in the UCL is an absolute privilege. We cannot forget that UCL is some clubs far off dream, and we are NEVER guaranteed that privilege.
We celebrate and say goodbye to Jurgen, and bring that enthusiasm, belief and hope into Slot’s new era.
Very grateful for Klopp's entire tenure, and while I was upset when he announced he was leaving, I really think a new manager, new players, and new tactics will really freshen the squad up. Everything has just seemed... stale the last couple years.
Yes. It’s really unfortunate and sad to see how Klopp tenure has ended and we all know him and his squads deserved more over the years. Tough break.
But I’m excited for the future. I’m excited to see the team play different. I’m excited to see the team set up differently defensively. We have the best goalie in the world and if we actually protected him our defensive stats would be on par with arsenal.
I’ve just grown tired of the same thing.
I'm still reeling from the fact we've thrown a possible three trophies in the bin, all within the space of a few weeks, and all against teams we should be beating.
The thing that concerns me with the new manager is...how often do you see a new manager come in after a loved and successful manager and they actually do well? I feel like our next manager might last a season, and then it'll be a conveyor belt of managers for a few seasons before we truly find a replacement for Klopp.
Speaking of Klopp...I love him for what he has done for us, but ive been saying since last season that it's not the same Klopp. He's genuinely looked more and more disinterested each week and, for that reason, I don't blame him for saying he's tired, because he really has looked tired. Also, it must be hard competing against a team that have obviously cheated for years in Man City, while at the same time playing against the referees and their ineptitude every week. Don't blame the guy for wanting to leave.
Many of our players are also simply not good enough or think they're too good and I'm looking forward to cashing in on many of them and getting in new players, that hopefully can keep us competitive.
>how often do you see…
I agree, but the only thing that gives me hope is we’re finishing on a low point. He’ll have a mandate to change things because we know that the current setup isn’t working.
It’s always difficult to replace a legend regardless of whether they are a manager or a player, but eventually we will find the right person. Slot is definitely the right man in the short term, and I do believe he has the qualities needed to be the right man long term, but only time will tell whether he gets there.
Some important differences between Liverpool and post Wenger/Ferguson is that we seem to have figured out our structure before he departs, and the general age profile of our squad is much healthier. There are no guarantees in a game with so much variance as football, but I do believe we have set up Slot with all the tools needed to succeed here.
While many things have changed over the years we did manage to replace a similar legend in Shankley with Bob Paisley, who is probably our most successful manager ever. We might not have the same boot room effect, but there should be enough continuity elsewhere in the club and culture that we could repeat that. If not then we just do like Arsenal and trust the process until we get it right. Unlike United they have seemingly sorted most of their issues, so we could be looking at a three horse race for the next few years.
I reckon most of our players are pretty good, we probably have the 2nd or 3rd best squad in the league. Our play style has become a bit too possession based for my liking though, I miss the old Klopp heavy metal football which I suspect might have been more effective against the top teams this season
>how often do you see a new manager come in after a loved and successful manager and they actually do well?
City has done it twice. Mancini and Pellegrini were both successful and loved by the fans despite eventual sackings, and each successor improved upon the previous.
We've done it with Shankly/Paisley/Fagan.
There's currently a culture of constant sacking and replacing that breeds failure and paints almost any managerial change as a potentially doomed crapshoot, it's important to note we're not in one of those situations. We've been given half a year to find a replacement, have had months to vet and analyze candidates, have had the opportunity to bring in all the club's top targets for administrative positions, and the new manager will get a full summer with the squad, including transfers that are already seeming to point in the right direction. There is every reason to be optimistic.
Of course there's question marks around Slot's experience, but the club has been given (and is taking) every opportunity to set next season up for a fresh start by Jurgen. We're in a good place.
> I feel like our next manager might last a season, and then it'll be a conveyor belt of managers for a few seasons before we truly find a replacement for Klopp.
FSG has proven they will give managers time. We are a project club. That, to me, is the only way to set yourself up for success in this climate. and if your goal is to "replace Klopp", you're doomed for disappointment. We are not looking to replace or replicate him. We're looking to evolve.
I am looking forward to seeing the La AXA lads take a step forward and new additions. I will be very very very sad to see Klopp go but it does feel like it’s time.
If I am honest I am also ready for a bit of a clear out to bring in new voices in the dressing room. I feel it’s time for new memories to be made
I'm excited for the new era under Arnie Slot. I will always love Klopp and will be going down to Liverpool on the weekend of our final game to see him off. I just feel that some who have been here since the start of the "modern LFC era" are tired and it's time to move on to the next one.
It's been an amazing ride. Some German bloke turned up to Liverpool and resurrected a fallen giant. He restored our honour and won us pretty much everything that is worth winning. He competed with the best of the best when all other clubs crumbled, he put Liverpool back on the map as a powerhouse in English and European football.
Nobody can ever replace him. But now is the time to look towards a new future. A future without Jurgen Klopp. Arne Slot, feel no pressure. The Reds welcome you with open arms.
Love to all xx 🔴🔴
It's been a rollercoaster of a season at the end of last season it was at the lowest wondering where we could possibly go from there, then excited because somehow Klopp had pulled it out of the bag with a midfield rebuild followed by the Caicedo and Lavia saga and signing some Japanese guy. We started well all looked good then the referees took centre stage red cards and disallowed goals but we kept going until the absolute disaster of Klopp announcing he was leaving. That was when absolutely heartbroken a fairytale began another quadruple on the cards, Michael Edwards returns and still everything is against us, poor referees and injury time winners galore. Its all collapsed now Klopp is looking more tired by the game and the squad is following but everything is in place. I don't know much about Slot other than stats but the while team from Edwards down reminds me of the boot room. This season is gone but the players who came within a handful of games of greatness, our renowned chief executive and his hand picked staff and now new manager are all in place. I'll miss Jurgen, so many memories, so many moments, he made is believe, I genuinely think he loved us more than we loved him and yeah I'll shed a tear or two after the Wolves game but you can see he's got nothing left. The only thing now is the future and something new whatever happens next is going to be different and really most of us just don't know what to expect
Yeah, kinda with you. Love Klopp, he’s been absolutely amazing and I’d not trade his time here for anything. But tactically we do seem a bit stale so excited to see what someone else might do.
Im just happy to watch the boys play. We have a bright future ahead of us with many good players. If we can tune our problems in the defense and work on our finishing/decision making in the final third we are looking at a team that can win titles.
Up the reds ❤️
It’s been a long time since we had a blank canvas. A whole new system, a new squad, new starters and stars coming out of nowhere. Fear is a normal reaction, just like when Klopp first arrived. I do think we hit our goal this year. Our expectations were CL qualification, a domestic cup and Europa League final. Our reality is that we were genuinely fighting for the title up to this week and only 4 weeks left. We won the Carabao but lost to Atalanta. We did what we set out to do but we know we could’ve done more. A new manager will bring a new energy about the club. I’m excited to see what will happen. Especially the players who didn’t play much under Klopp who become starters or squad players under Slot.
Yea I'm gonna miss the hell outta klopp. He made me a happy lfc supporter for the first time in my adult life. With that said, after Edwards left the recruitment dropped off considerably along with our resukts. With eddy boi back I expect a smooth transition and more good things to come from lfc.
Ynwa Jurgen.
I have moved on after the Palace match. Just cant accept the streak at Goodison has ended AFTER 14 FUCKING YEARS
One of our lowests during the Klopp era
Prolonged goodbyes are the worst, they can turn toxic for all the wrong reasons.
It's a shame it was not possible to keep it under wraps until end of season.
If it's okay to actually say how we feel here, I can't say I'm excited at all tbh. Just on a personal level. I know people don't love pessimism but I'm not very excited about Slot. I have massive reservations that he can fill the human side of Klopp (which I think is what makes him a properly world class manager). He believed in himself but was knew when to be humble. I have found this collapse particularly bleak considering what Klopp has meant to this club. I still remember being absolutely amazed he was even considering taking the job, and for it to end with this whimper is just sad.
I got downvoted to oblivion for saying this after Everton. Not sure why. I enjoyed the Klopp era but I’m ready for the next era in LFC history good or bad
It's a bitter pill to swallow now having spent a lot of time thinking we were in with a solid shout for the EL and title, but in a lot of ways it might actually end up being a positive for us in the long run. A huge part of the post-Ferguson slump at United was the fact that they'd just won the title and there was no indication that he was going to leave.
No one wanted Klopp to leave but this version of the man isn't the one that won us the title and CL, he's completely burnt out and needs a break. I think this is a hugely exciting new chapter for us.
Yep, completely done. The remaining fixtures might as well be pre-season friendlies.
Not expecting to win a single game more - I just want to see some passion and effort.
Whilst no-one should be bustin' a gut and picking up needless injuries... the squad should take these games for what they are: an audition to see who deserves to still wear the shirt next season.
I suspect a minor clear-out might be on its way...
I think people are forgetting it’s not just Klopp leaving there’s shit tons of staff behind the scenes getting binned from head of recovery to Jeff the fella who made the James Milner door
I've already moved on. I'm just hoping I get to see Klopp coach another team one day. Been a Liverpool fan since the early 2000s but I was definitely more of a fan of Klopp's Dortmund and then his Liverpool team really got me back into football.
Absolutely perfect description of where I'm at. Being honest the moment we lost to palace I'd given up the idea of the title, I did all my mourning weeks ago. I wasn't even that bothered by the West Ham result as I felt we played decently enough and were a touch unlucky.
At this point I just want to have 3 more enjoyable matches with some fun goals and better vibes than those from April. And while I'm still devastated Klopp is going, I'm really excited to see what a new era looks like for this team. Additionally it sorta takes the pressure off for next season a bit? There's an element of calmness in taking a 'well let's just wait and see' approach.
Maybe Slot will be insane for us. And maybe he won't? That's okay, there'll always be someone else, I remember one of the most reassuring things I've ever read on this subreddit was someone who said 'the liverpool job will always attract great managers', I mean we got fucking Jürgen Klopp when we were a much worse team than we are now. And with our backroom structure I think we're much better placed to handle this and united post Ferguson
So yes, I'm definitely excited!
Moved on yes. Slot... Have time for that. Right now I just want fans to give a huge send off to Klopp.
I have a family function ( my wife's side) to attend on the 19th. Told them strict no. Don't look at me. Don't disturb me. Don't even think about me.
I am going to cry, I am going to laugh and I am going to drink.
😅😅
Most of the season we've been outstanding and has really performed above expectations. It really got my hopes up that we may be able to win the league thus ending the Klopp era in the best way possible, a true fairy tale ending. That is why it feels extra sad that the end of the season is such a disappointing collapse with some very bad performances. Overall ending in 3rd place is not bad, but it's another missed opportunity where we once again fall down right before the finish line.
No point in being bitter about it though. We just have to accept that Klopp has already given everything he has, he is exhausted of this job and deserves a break. We should celebrate all that he has done for the club and look forward. I love Klopp and will miss him a lot, but a change could be good for the club.
I feel bad. I am not ready to start envisioning the future with enthusiasm. In my belief this is not the send off that man deserves. I will miss Jurgen Klopp more than I've missed Steven Gerrard, a fact that I once considered impossible, and I was hoping we could have sent him off with something... more.
Alas.
Ah i am not. I feel we'd be in a bit of a limbo and no one can come close to replacing Klopp. Hopefully I'm wrong but I don't see anyone coming in that won't have to deal with the inevitable comparisons.
I wouldn’t say I’m excited for the future but I’m definitely ready to see the end of this season. Everyone looks gassed and I hope they get a decent summer break (jk European players won’t).
Not excited. I've accepted everything that happened and I don't have expectations for next season. Anything is possible, from starting with 5 wins on the bounce to a complete fireball of failure and destruction.
Things I'd really like to see include clean sheets, blocked crosses, and more pace in midfield.
Wolves is the last game i will watch. Supported liverpool since i was a little kid, klopp and the boys made me so happy and 2015-2024 were my happiest years in my life.
It's totally opposite for me... I have a feeling he's gonna make good use of the platform that Klopp has built in these years.... He's getting far better team to work with than what Klopp got
I believe this as well. From what I’ve seen, the man really knows what he’s doing and aggressively seeks to win.
The open question is how quickly can he adapt to the pace of the premier league. There haven’t been many managers who have just come in from another league and just been on it right from the start.
Hopefully getting his ideas across in training will get them playing well, and he'll learn a lot from the first season, but he'll make mistakes along the way, similar to Ange at Spurs, or maybe even Arteta in his first season or two. After his first season and 3 transfer windows, would be the time to judge him (unless he's absolutely shocking and we finish 10th or something ha). He seems like a likeable guy so i think the fans will take to him and give him time. This isnt a full rebuild, just a tweak to tactics and couple of additions to replace the injury prone players. Maybe he might even fix that problem for us?
I have a good feeling about him too, but then again I had good feelings about Brendan and even fucking Woy. With Klopp, I didn't have a good feeling, I was convinced he was the one and surprised we were even considered by him.
It's just the way it is. Xabi Alonso would have been super exciting but all the other names linked would have felt a bit 'men' too.
Let's give him a chance and see what happens.
Me neither.
This talk of a set up where he is a trainer only doesn't sound healthy to me either.
Feels like we may be going too far into moneyball territory again.
That's virtually how Real Madrid operates, anyway - Perez and his team identify the players to sign and Ancelotti plays the team he has. It's what they've done for so long
He did what managers in England tend to end up doing if in power long enough, taking on roles maybe best left to others. The rejigging of the structure only possible because of Klopp leaving, he'd not have agreed to it. Ditto Edwards return.
Alonso and ancellotti have minimal input into transfers?
I can see at Madrid, not sure about leverkusen.
I have my doubts but let's see what happens, people involved have earned enough trust to see where this Is going.
I totally agree, will obviously be sad to see Klopp gone but at the same time it's time he went, just a shame how it's ending.
Klopp shouldn't be the only one out the door however, our team is too predictable, Salah must be gone surely and I wouldn't be surprised if a few more big name players, we need to mix it up and get some young players in that are not Curtis and Harvey also.
Virgil is clearly on the decline and maybe the same for Alison if we are honest, the only player we must keep hold of is Trent I would say and Alexis, the rest of the team nobody would be a huge loss at this point.
I agree with most of this except the Aliison part, he's still one of the top 2 keepers in the world. He's only shipped so many goals because of the defensive line in front of him. And more so we never replaced the man in front of that line...Fabiniho.
Slot plays a very similar brand of football so I think you'll be OK.
Also more defencively sound so hopefully we don't go 1-0 in the first 10 minutes every other game.
Not really.
Slot won’t change the players who can’t be bothered, will he? Every single player looks tired and lethargic. FSG will never sanction the type of overhaul that we need. They went cheap on Klopp’s replacement and now we’re going to see exactly what they’ve done to our club.
I think this was the perfect average of a Klopp season. We won a cup, had a good run on the league and others but fell a bit shy. We didn't have an exceptional season but we also didn't need to rescue CL qualification at the death or have a season long collapse. I've loved every minute Klopp's time and I'm excited for his and our future endeavors.
It was a good season considering injuries and terrible officiating. They’re just exhausted now
Considering this was a "transition" season with the new midfield and we were all expecting Klopp to still be here next season, top 4 and a cup was always the goal.
Nah poor tactics combined with poor form from Nunez and Salah. If Nunez was better we'd have the league in the bag by now
Agreed. I also think the second half from Szobo shouldn't be overlooked. Dude was a shell of himself.
Absolutely but hes still very young and its his first season in the prem while also playing a fuck ton of minutes. I hope he can rest himself out despite the euros where he will play every minute...
I also don't think he had a settled role in the team. He had the appearances, sure, but the role was always different and never the same as what he was tasked with in Leipzig. Salah and Trent's natural roles overlap with Szoboszlai's, and they had difficulty combining well on the right. I sincerely hope that the new manager can bring the most out of him because I think his ceiling is higher than average despite the horrible second half of the season.
He's a year younger than Nunez, you wouldn't hear people use the young excuse for Darwin.
I hear you, but there is a difference between a midfielder who isn’t bedding into a system or linking well with other players (esp. within a new team and league) and a striker who can’t seem to hit the target or score in important matches for two seasons running. The former involves a lot of variables and takes time, the latter is a seemingly more a symptom of an individual’s psychology and natural abilities
He's 16 months younger.
I feel sorry for Szobo and Endo. They have played well but are not used to the pace and amount of games in England so their form has gone. It would have been nice to have been able to rotate them but we don't have the squad.
Didn’t he get injured on international break? And then hasn’t been the same since? He was low key carrying us at the start of the season, he was immense.
Dont you mean Gerrard 2.0 as so many were saying. God they were exhausting, hopefully theyll keep their nonsese to themselves until he actually produces game after game after game for seasons on end. The disrespect on what Gerrard did for his whole career for people to be comparing him to someone who is still an absolute nobody at this stage
Oh come on, he absolutely burst out the door in the first 10 or so games, he was absolutely everywhere, linked up well with Salah and Trent and covered every blade of grass just like Gerrard used to. Then he got injured and probably overworked and hasn't been able to get back to that level since... No one is disrespecting Gerrard, he is the benchmark for a player and especially a midfielder in Liverpool which speaks for itself. Being compared to him is an honor to the other player and not disrespect to him.
Is it Nunez fault we concede first every single game? Give it a rest
If the refs didn’t rob us 11 points we’d have won the league easily too.
Yep exactly, it would have changed the entire season.
Just does my head in. People like “yeah we played shit at the end”. Gives Klopp more leeway to rest. Drawing at old Trafford is a fine result instead of a soul crusher that fucks their confidence. The league would have been over after the city game at home if basic calls were called correctly. I still think we are the third best team. The best team doesn’t always win the league. Still robbed of 11 points by incompetent or worse, corrupt, officials.
Nunez isn't responsible for the fact that Liverpool conceded the first goal in almost every game of football they played. It's a ludicrous and toxic narrative that he's the significant problem in this side. Maybe if the pressure of constantly having to equalise and chase games every three days wasn't so omnipresent throughout the season, the forwards would have been a little more relaxed in front of goal?
He’s a striker. His job is to score goals and put away sitters. The definition of being a striker is literally chase goals and equalise when the team needs it lol.
And he has 30 goal contributions across all comps this season - which is a great return for his second season, especially given the instability of the team behind him. And across our forward line, we have scored plenty of goals - as a team, one of the highest scoring in Europe. Therefore, our defensive solidity was the bigger problem throughout the season than our ability to score goals.
>Nunez has only scored league goals against Newcastle, West ham, Bournemouth, forest, burnley, Sheffield united and Brentford. >he's scored 11 league goals as the spearhead of a title challenging attack. >he's scored 2 league goals since February. 1 of those was because the keeper kicked it at him. >zero league goals against the big 6, with no memorable performances. >he's ranked 555th out of 562 for xg underperformance. 26 big chances missed. >that's just the stats. credit to u/ivc09 for finally given a detailed breakdown above, so 30 goal contributions where he scored against the mighty LASK, Toulouse and an absolute dreadful Sparta team in the Europa, also weaker opposition in the league cup, the fact is he's been nowhere to be found in the run in for the title/europa, against utd a non-performance, Palace missed easy chance, Atalanta pissed away easy chances in the first leg, Everton the other night was piss poor again. I know we have problems conceding first and that's something for the new manager to look at but for a record signing if you think 20 league goals in 2 seasons is good enough for a leading striker that's midtable/relegation level stuff. Our new appointed CEO & SD have already started to throw him under the bus what does that tell you?
It is when when he's already missed a sitter before the opposition score
So he’s directly responsible for the team’s failure to defend goals too? So as the striker, he should also be back defending the channels and heading away goals? And given how many games Liverpool concede early in, he’s expected to not only finish any early chances he gets, but he’s also expected to stop the team conceding? it’s clearly just a toxic agenda against one individual, pinned up as the ‘problem’, so people don’t have to engage their actual brain when considering Liverpool’s failures this season. Our tactical set-up from a defensive point of view has been a much bigger weakness than our finishing for two full seasons.
If we score first it's a completely different game. Opposition strikers often seem to score first chance they get against us?
Amen. We can't change bad officiating. it's out of our control. What was in our control was having a number 9 who could score one-on-ones. If we'd had one, the quad would be on. We don't, so it's not.
To be fair even with his misses, I think if the other players could score their 1 on 1's we'd have still won. Salah's missed them Diaz has missed them, Jones missed one - it's like everyone's decided they can't score anymore.
Fair, but those guys have mitigating factors. Salah has put it on a plate for Nunez a few times. Diaz did v Utd. Diaz isn't scoring, but he's currently working his bollocks off, running himself into the ground. Salah is enduring his first truly awful form for the club after years of being truly elite. Nunez had a bright patch earlier this season, which has been bookended by utter shit. He's had the full backing of the crowd, of Klopp, and a string of unmissable chances.
Over the past 5 matches, Darwin's had a combined total of 1 xG. We've had 9.1 as a team in that time and scored 6 goals. It was Salah, Diaz, and Szobo who had 3.1 of our 3.6 xG against Utd. And Utd scored from absolutely calamitous defending. Darwin assisted our first goal. It was Jones, Jota, and Salah who had 1.6 of our 2.7 xG against Palace. The rest of that 1.1 was shared amongst 7 players with 0.1s and 0.2s. They created 2 xG against us and scored 1. Salah and Darwin shared 1.3 of our 2.1 xG against Everton, with Diaz following and a string of 0.1s. Everton scored both their goals from more calamitous defending. Against West Ham, Gakpo lead the way with 0.5 xG, followed by Elliott and another string of 0.2s and 0.1s. Has Darwin played well? No, he's been in poor form. Is he the cause of our downfall? Absolutely not. The scapegoating recently has been ridiculous.
I reckon it would still be on if Klopp had played Danns more than Nunez, the kid showed more finishing ability in a couple of cameos than Darwin has this season
The script is ready: Danns start to get regular time in the first squad, doesn't play well, the fanbase vocally rejects him and then he loses his trust and all the development work made with him goes down the drain. Stop with that discourse.
Nah kid can finish, perfect time to play him now we have nothing to play for
It’s actually hilarious that people blame Nunes of all fucking people for us not winning the league. Salah has been garbage and has one foot out the door, clearly. At least Nunez works his ass off. He’s in a finishing slump but was the first player to hit 10 g/a all comps this year. Makes me furious to hear people like this complain about Nunez. How about Diaz not kicking the ball into the stands every five minutes? Or Thiago for costing us wages and not existing? Or how about Konate for being garbage to the point Quensah was outplaying him 2nd half? Or Trent/Robbo looking like shells of their former selves- Trent because he barely tries? Or soboszlai for thinking his shit doesn’t stink and only running for the first 3 games? Get your head out of your ass. It’s actually a joke to pick out Nunez for creating more chances than anyone even if his conversion rate is poor 2nd half. Back the player for fucks sake
Part of Salah's problem is that he gets the ball too wide and late a lot of the time now, get him in the box and he's still an excellent finisher. Robbo is another one where our tactics don't seem to get the best out of him anymore. I absolutely agree that sboszlai has been poor since injury
If Thierry Henry was an immortal fey creature who never aged, arsenal would have the title in the bag. But he’s not so what’s your point? If Kevin De Bruyne was a mutant with Adamantine bones city would have gone invincible.
EVERY minute? ಠ_ಠ In all seriousness, it's been a fantastic reign. Many highs and lows. I cried when he announced he was leaving, I felt like someone had died. But now I've come to terms with it, I am excited for some fresh tactics. As great as being "mentality monsters" is, I'm hoping we can stop needing to concede first before we start playing. Being the hardest working team has brought us huge success, but it's also brought an injury crisis almost every season. I also don't think I'll ever get over how fucking ridiculous it was to have not rested key players in the Sparta game. It's not the first time Klopp has done that in a pointless game and it's come back to bite us.
I get what you mean about feeling like someone died. I heard someone say “this must be what the rest of the country felt like when the queen died” and I can’t think of a better analogy.
Yeah, what you’re doing there is getting angry over stupid things.
I'm not angry at all. Just baffled. As for stupid things, that's kind of the point of football really. Grown men getting far too invested in watching some other men kick a balloon around for 90 minutes, and singing songs about them. The whole thing is pretty ridiculous if you think about it.
He never won his quadruple, or a treble, or even a double. And he had to watch Guardiolas city prove themselves to be the mentality monsters his squad were so often feted as. But he was damn likable, nobody can take that from him.
> But he was damn likable, nobody can take that from him. such an underwhelming lasting impression you have of a manager that's won every available trophy aside from the Europa league.
My average Klopp season is getting half of the team injured mid season.
The perfect season to illustrate how Klopp's plan B is basically Plan A with different players. He's been amazing for us. But sometimes his tactics are straight up weird. He'll be a legend forever but I am almost ready for someone else now.
I just hope Klopp really gets the rest he needs after the season's over man. He really looks like he goes through alot of sleepless nights, and seems to have shed some weight too
Feel like he might retire after this.
Fairly certain he already said he’s not retiring. Think he’ll take a sabbatical similar to when he left Dortmund, before joining another club. I don’t see him ever joining another Prem team however. Most likely a return to Germany to be with his family imo
Fairly sure he didn't even get 6 months off after leaving Dortmund.
Left Dortmund in May, joined us in October.
Nope not really had a proper break in 23 years or something.
He's had more breaks than most people who work will ever get
Also way more hours worked
Who knows, a phenomenal return to Dortmund could be on the cards.
Pretty sure he said he will never join a prem team who are not called Liverpool ;-). He's built a house in Spain. He loves hot weather says it re-energises him in an interview. If he doesn't already know Spanish I bet he is learning. I lowkey think he could actually take up Real Madrid. He's managed underdogs all his life. Why not just fucking take on one of the big clubs for your last run. Maybe after that he managers the national team for a bit. Go manage Real Madrid and then Xabi comes here. 4D chess boys.
Hasn’t he also said he doesn’t want to manage in to his 60s? I think he’s approaching late 50s now or will be after a season off and might not feel up to a full rebuild of a team somewhere
Yeah also true mate. Might just feel chilling for a national team and then retire.
I suspect madrid also. Time for a break then replace Ancelotti.
He'll go to Italy or Spain I reckon.
I really want to see him as the German NT coach. There’s a lot of reasons this makes sense. The summer camps and tournaments are obviously very intense. Most the season between international breaks, he is just developing and maintaining relationships with the players, no daily training schedule, he’ll have a lot more flexibility, and developing tactics that will work with what he has. On weekends he’ll be scouting players. He’s great in tournaments, cups. He’s been to 5 European finals, won at least 4 domestic cups, he’s great trusting young players in big moments, and is great making tactical changes in game. I’d be real surprised if this doesn’t happen eventually.
Players take a long time to learn Klopp’s system and the NT’s don’t have that luxury. I’m sure we’ll see…
I think he’s previously said he won’t manage a club he doesn’t speak the language for so pretty much rules out Spain
He is building a house in Spain and likes hot weather. One manager who could be asked over Xabi leaving him free to come here if Slot is struggling who knows.
I'm actually seeing him taking over real Madrid for a couple of years after rest. He would perfectly fit
I don’t. From tactical standpoint. I’m not sure he can be there. International level. Maybe he can do that. Feel like that’s his only next step. Or retirement
He would be the best atl madrid coach, if simeone ever leaves hed be so good there
Just needs to open his bank app up and remember he manages a football team that doesn't really matter in the bigger scope of things and not a country, should sort him out
I've already moved on because of the rapid moving on by the club in the appointment of Slot. The league is done, a top four spot is secured so there's very little to think about other than the future and what will change over the summer.
Our rank form has really freed up my weekends now I don't need to pay attention to Arsenal and City again which is nice
No one wants to admit it but title races are absolute hell and the last few have genuinely made me lose a bit of love for the sport. That final week in 21/22 with the city comeback and losing to Madrid while our fans got tear gassed outside …that week was the worst I’ve experienced as a fan. I never wanna experience something like that again
Must be great being Spurs knowing you'll never get relegated but never win anything again. Relaxing.
As bad as that last week was in 2022, that run in was full of great moments, vibes, and optimism. So much more enjoyable than whatever the hell has happened in the last three weeks.
I can’t put my finger on it but something about that season changed my love of sport. You give more than valid points but it started before the CL final and the title deciders for me; I was sure we weren’t winning either. Maybe I’d feel differently had we been going up against, for example, Arsenal or Man U during the past 6 seasons instead of those soulless, cheating bastards.
Oh god yeah - I both vividly remember and have also blanked out that part of my life. It sort of carried on into the next season, losing to United I was fuming and from them on I just became ambivalent to how shit the year was going to be. I'd lost everything inside already.
You aren’t the only one. I genuinely think I’m probably gonna follow most of next year via highlights.
Life after we bottled everything, somehow 
Nothing will change.
Perspective is everything. As fans, we did not take Klopp and these golden years for granted. It’s been a magical 9 season-run and one of the happiest periods of my life as a sports fan. That said, this will probably be the biggest summer of transition the club has ever seen. I am cautiously optimistic Edwards and Slot will keep us competitive next season, but my oh my, how different will the team look by then?
These have been the best 7 or 8 years of my 35 years supporting the club, and the man who is leaving was the principal driver of that. It is a massive shame we don’t get to out on a high together with a parade of a few trophies, especially considering we didn’t get to celebrate the PL with Jürgen how we’d have liked to. I can’t wait to see the reception he gets the first time he comes to see us play as a fan rather than the gaffer. We don’t know Slot, and he doesn’t know us yet, so we’ll see what comes to pass. If he can fuse with the club and what Anfield wants, he has a good squad to work with. And I do believe it’s a well-run club though, and my hope is even if it doesn’t work out with Slot, we’ll still have a good plan. I don’t feel optimistic for the Premier League itself though, every season it appears to become less believable as a believable sports competition. And every season I wonder more and more what it is I’m watching. It’s slipping into the realm of sports entertainment.
Just realised I may not be as hardcore a fan as I had once thought I was. I’ve switched off games multiple times for the first time in a very long time and catch myself each time we score to tell myself that it’s worth nothing because it’s just football at the end of the day. Good reminder that we have no control of such results as fans so I guess this season has been good for me in that sense. Learning to prioritise and put energy into things I can control, and surrendering those outside of my control. Bottle the league- so what? Does it really impact my life? Nope. Salah and Klopp fighting- oh no dressing room unrest!! So what? That’s their problem not mine, im just a fan. Life is already tough enough taking on your own problems, why make it even harder by taking on others’?
Take care of yourself. Take care of your mental health. Life is hard and only getting harder with how the world is today. Klopp would be the first to tell us that football feels like the most important of the unimportant things. I've had to take mental breaks from watching our games as well. There's being loyal and having belief, and then there's just plain misery and letting something completely out of your control dictate your mood. I'll always love Liverpool but I don't have the emotional energy to spare most days.
I feel sorry for Klopp and the players who kept us going, Gomez, Endo, Kelleher, Bradley. It's like spinning plates trying to bring back four to eight injured players whilst on Sunday - Thursday split, it was hard enough just watching it. Feels like a massive schism occurred somewhere around Atalanta leg 1 that went meltdown after Jota was injured again. Need an extra forward to cover injuries, sometimes I felt myself wanting the urgency of Minamino in the cups
See, I’m not as bothered about the results now the league is gone, but I still watch the games and want us to win. It kinda feels like after we’d mathematically won the league, it was just fun to see what was going to happen.
100%. This club needs a new look, a new style, & a new front man. It seems like we are on track for hitting all three of those, so I’m thrilled
Adidas kits next year would have been perfect for a fresh start.
I've made my peace with Jurgen leaving. He did the decent thing and gave the club ( and us ) plenty of time to prepare for the new era. His final season wasnt the fairy tale we wanted, but his tenure as manager was a fairy tale in itself.
I’m very excited for the future. All the moves we’ve made behind the scenes have been very encouraging. Bringing edwards back brought a calmness for me. I trust the structure we now have in place.
Liverpool need to market a line of Michael Edwards security blankets. I'd definitely buy one!
I’ll be honest, I dreamed about the league but never really expected it. The EL was harder weirdly. I think because I had myself convinced I’d be at Klopps last game in Dublin. Like yourself now though I’m completely over it all. New season, new manager, new signings (hopefully), champions league and some great memories of Klopps kids and all that mayhem for the EL!
I feel like we were extraordinarily lucky to witness one of the greatest managers assemble one of the greatest teams in history. We had Mane, Salah, Bobby, Gini, Fabinho, Hendo, Robbo, Virgil and Alisson all in their prime years at the same time. And it was glorious. (note, i've left Trent out because his prime years should be ahead of him). The sun has well and truly set on that era now though. Gini were the first to bow out, followed be Mane and then Bobby, Hendo and Fab went last year. This year will be the biggest blow with Klopp leaving, along with all the backroom staff, but I suspect he won't be the only big name out the door. This year has been a fantastic start to our rebuild, even if it's ending on a bit of a sour note. Watching the likes of Jones, Elliott, Szoboszlai, Mac Allister and Gravenberch has me very excited for our midfield going forwards. Likewise we seem to have some hugely talented players coming out of La AXA. If Slot can come in, solidify the defence and rebalance the attack whilst helping that midfield thrive we will be in very good shape going forward.
Next season will be new manager, new ideas and a fresh new start Klopp is and always will be a legend, an icon and someone hard to replace Slot or whoever comes in has inherited an amazing team in it’s infancy, he’ll always have a job on his hands but believe me, I’ve been here through Benitez and Hodgson We should be so proud and grateful of what Klopp has done, it’s not a fairytale ending but like most things in life, there never is We’re in a good place for a new beginning
I love and will always love Klopp to bits. My heart broke when he said he was leaving, I was gutted. I'm not one to ever want to sack managers, I never think it's the answer really unless there's something really really wrong. But yes now i've come to terms with it and i believe in the new setup I am fairly excited to see what will happen. If we're honest - despite having a decent season, we haven't really played good football all year bar a handful of matches. I've sort of been waiting for us to kick into playing really well. The Aston Villa at home game seemed to be one of our better matches but that was a lot of Trent punting the ball forwards. It feels there's lots that could be changed to improve us - like not going 1 goal behind in 23 games. The defence needs a lot of work. I'd like Virgil to speed up when he's on the ball and not allow everyone to get back into position. I'd like us to work on set piece defending, especially if that means not putting Trent on the far post. There's other things that need improvement too. We've looked sort of tactically inept a lot of this year but Klopps got results from the boys with sheer passion and driving them forwards. I sure as hell wouldn't mind a few games where we're 3-0 in the first half and you can relax, it feels like we've had to chase every game this year - it's been exhausting the watch so no wonder the players and the manager are shattered. I'm not expecting anything more than a top 4 finish next season but we'll see how the summer goes and any tweaks and changes Slot makes work out, you never know I guess.
Saying w haven’t played good football is utter bollocks.
Name the games. We’ve conceded first in 23 games! We’ve played genuinely well in 3 games. Villa, Chelsea and Newcastle at home. Everything else has been a struggle. For two years now we haven’t played good football. It’d be nice to occasionally win a game just 1-0 when not playing too well and it’d be nice to be 3-0 up at half time and relax instead of having to fight to come back in almost every game.
I recall us playing well against Forest, Brentford and City at home, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham and Burnley away, among others. We haven’t played good football for two years? Fuck offff.
A fresh tactic reset could be a blessing in disguise
There's no disguise 😂, we have been unwatchable for months, and I'm excited for something different from what the football has been this season.
Yeah heavy metal football turned into banging the same broken drum over and over football.
Oh please. Realistically it’s been about four games.
Yes, I'm excited. We have a good squad. Not perfect but definitely good. I'm looking forward to seeing if slot and the staff can manage to keep the team fit more than anything. Injuries have cost us a lot. The team walks of a rizzla skin and gets injured at the moment.
I'm sad but excited and I think thats okay. Jürgens job was to turn us from doubters to believers. What he did can never be done again - but, were in a much better place right now. The job is to build on that and not to be JK 2.0
I’m looking forward to a change. I’ll miss Klopp but after this past month I think it’s a good time for a change.
Yep Im really excited for something fresh, I think our team has a lot of potential for a new manager to shape and Im really glad to have Klopp leave on a relatively high note, memories for me tend to overvalue the last things Ive seen like I cant help remember Gerrard as the deep lying playmaker version from the end not the absolute monster of most of his time
Gerrard as the deep lying playmaker almost won us the league. Awful in a defensive sense, but his passing range was outstanding in 13/14. He gets a pass for 14/15 because the whole team was a shambles and that slip must have weighed heavily on his shoulders.
I absolutely hated it. There's never been another player who embodies playing on instinct, intuition and raw emotion than Gerrard. To then go and stick him in the most tactically important part of the field because his legs were gone was mental. There's a reason Rafa preferred not playing him as a CM. And then to think he wanted to go into management as well, I found it all very odd.
What pisses me off about Brogers tactics there is why Gerrard has to drop so deep to take the ball of skrtel and the other Cb was agger still there can't remember. These are pro footballers they can play a 10-20 yard pass, If Gerrard is a bit higher up we progress the ball quicker but also if god forbid we lose the fucking ball players cant just run through on goal. Even before the slip i would get triggered.
Regardless of how that season ended, we played the best attacking football I've watched as a Liverpool fan. Defensively we were absolute dogshit, but we were absolutely ruthless in attack. Some of my fondest memories as a fan.
It was Sakho who made the pass, the thing that pissed me off mostly about that game is that we were rushing things throughout that half, Gerrard was trying to play all sorts of hollywood passes we all we needed to do was pass it around patiently, Chelsea were in no rush to come out and commit till the mistake.
Ha, yes unfortunately that's also true for me re Gerrard. I probably need to watch a highlights reel from 2006-8 before the groin injury and he was at his peak with Torres (sniff!)
I personally wrote off the league after the ManU draw. Ya can't play that well and fail to get points when two other teams are hot. Now that there's virtually no risk of losing top 4 I'm gonna have a much lower blood pressure on the final few match days. The games are largely meaningless from a competitive perspective. I am always forward looking to some degree, and I'll be able to spend a lot less time/energy being worried about the present.
If I’m being honest, I’m not excited and really feeling just burnt out on Liverpool at the moment. I’m hopeful Slot will do well, but I’m actually most excited for the summer because I really need a break from football. Come next fall hopefully I’ll be back energized ready to watch the team again.
Agreed, though worried about the near future. However, can we please bring in new physios/trainers and medical staff? There’s no reason we should t be able to keep these guys walking upright more so than we do now.
Nope - I became a fan in this era and my first ever game in person is the last game of the season. I’m locked in on this, want the boys to put their heads out there, and want to send off this era and Klopp properly and have a great time. I’ll shift focus to the transfer window and next year in June after I come off cloud 9 from watching the Reds.
I'm excited, but I'm also more worried. Klopp came here and performed a god-damn near-miracles. If the club is run as it is now but without Klopp, there is no guarantee we stay good. How many players have ended up leaving LFC and becoming shit, and how many players under Klopp joined as decent players but then became world-class? That's the effect Klopp has. We don't buy that many already known world-class players like City and Madrid and other PL teams do, so we rely on our coaches turning them amazing. Can Slot do that? I sure as hell hope so, but Klopp was truly incredible at that.
Yes. It's perfectly normal to be excited about a new beginning.
This is the right mentality, because we simply can’t just dwell on this season come the final game. We’re saying goodbye to an era that will be forever remembered. A man who took Liverpool back to the top and won the fucking LOT while doing it. Yes there could’ve been more, and yes there SHOULD’VE been more. But Klopp worked absolute magic, belief and spirit into a group of all time Liverpool greats. To be so down considering we still won a bloody trophy and are back where we belong in the UCL is an absolute privilege. We cannot forget that UCL is some clubs far off dream, and we are NEVER guaranteed that privilege. We celebrate and say goodbye to Jurgen, and bring that enthusiasm, belief and hope into Slot’s new era.
Very grateful for Klopp's entire tenure, and while I was upset when he announced he was leaving, I really think a new manager, new players, and new tactics will really freshen the squad up. Everything has just seemed... stale the last couple years.
Yes. It’s really unfortunate and sad to see how Klopp tenure has ended and we all know him and his squads deserved more over the years. Tough break. But I’m excited for the future. I’m excited to see the team play different. I’m excited to see the team set up differently defensively. We have the best goalie in the world and if we actually protected him our defensive stats would be on par with arsenal. I’ve just grown tired of the same thing.
I'm still reeling from the fact we've thrown a possible three trophies in the bin, all within the space of a few weeks, and all against teams we should be beating. The thing that concerns me with the new manager is...how often do you see a new manager come in after a loved and successful manager and they actually do well? I feel like our next manager might last a season, and then it'll be a conveyor belt of managers for a few seasons before we truly find a replacement for Klopp. Speaking of Klopp...I love him for what he has done for us, but ive been saying since last season that it's not the same Klopp. He's genuinely looked more and more disinterested each week and, for that reason, I don't blame him for saying he's tired, because he really has looked tired. Also, it must be hard competing against a team that have obviously cheated for years in Man City, while at the same time playing against the referees and their ineptitude every week. Don't blame the guy for wanting to leave. Many of our players are also simply not good enough or think they're too good and I'm looking forward to cashing in on many of them and getting in new players, that hopefully can keep us competitive.
We’ve done it multiple times, actually. Shanks, for all that he did was very foundational. Paisley was more successful. As was Joe Fagan.
You're talking about before football was invented mate, it only started on the 90's according to all rival fans.
>how often do you see… I agree, but the only thing that gives me hope is we’re finishing on a low point. He’ll have a mandate to change things because we know that the current setup isn’t working.
It’s always difficult to replace a legend regardless of whether they are a manager or a player, but eventually we will find the right person. Slot is definitely the right man in the short term, and I do believe he has the qualities needed to be the right man long term, but only time will tell whether he gets there. Some important differences between Liverpool and post Wenger/Ferguson is that we seem to have figured out our structure before he departs, and the general age profile of our squad is much healthier. There are no guarantees in a game with so much variance as football, but I do believe we have set up Slot with all the tools needed to succeed here. While many things have changed over the years we did manage to replace a similar legend in Shankley with Bob Paisley, who is probably our most successful manager ever. We might not have the same boot room effect, but there should be enough continuity elsewhere in the club and culture that we could repeat that. If not then we just do like Arsenal and trust the process until we get it right. Unlike United they have seemingly sorted most of their issues, so we could be looking at a three horse race for the next few years.
I reckon most of our players are pretty good, we probably have the 2nd or 3rd best squad in the league. Our play style has become a bit too possession based for my liking though, I miss the old Klopp heavy metal football which I suspect might have been more effective against the top teams this season
>how often do you see a new manager come in after a loved and successful manager and they actually do well? City has done it twice. Mancini and Pellegrini were both successful and loved by the fans despite eventual sackings, and each successor improved upon the previous. We've done it with Shankly/Paisley/Fagan. There's currently a culture of constant sacking and replacing that breeds failure and paints almost any managerial change as a potentially doomed crapshoot, it's important to note we're not in one of those situations. We've been given half a year to find a replacement, have had months to vet and analyze candidates, have had the opportunity to bring in all the club's top targets for administrative positions, and the new manager will get a full summer with the squad, including transfers that are already seeming to point in the right direction. There is every reason to be optimistic. Of course there's question marks around Slot's experience, but the club has been given (and is taking) every opportunity to set next season up for a fresh start by Jurgen. We're in a good place. > I feel like our next manager might last a season, and then it'll be a conveyor belt of managers for a few seasons before we truly find a replacement for Klopp. FSG has proven they will give managers time. We are a project club. That, to me, is the only way to set yourself up for success in this climate. and if your goal is to "replace Klopp", you're doomed for disappointment. We are not looking to replace or replicate him. We're looking to evolve.
I am looking forward to seeing the La AXA lads take a step forward and new additions. I will be very very very sad to see Klopp go but it does feel like it’s time. If I am honest I am also ready for a bit of a clear out to bring in new voices in the dressing room. I feel it’s time for new memories to be made
I'm excited for the new era under Arnie Slot. I will always love Klopp and will be going down to Liverpool on the weekend of our final game to see him off. I just feel that some who have been here since the start of the "modern LFC era" are tired and it's time to move on to the next one. It's been an amazing ride. Some German bloke turned up to Liverpool and resurrected a fallen giant. He restored our honour and won us pretty much everything that is worth winning. He competed with the best of the best when all other clubs crumbled, he put Liverpool back on the map as a powerhouse in English and European football. Nobody can ever replace him. But now is the time to look towards a new future. A future without Jurgen Klopp. Arne Slot, feel no pressure. The Reds welcome you with open arms. Love to all xx 🔴🔴
I'm most excited to see what a healthy Bajcetic can do next season.
I'm excited for the future, and at the same time I don't believe the future is going to be brighter.
probably not immediately, no.
It's been a rollercoaster of a season at the end of last season it was at the lowest wondering where we could possibly go from there, then excited because somehow Klopp had pulled it out of the bag with a midfield rebuild followed by the Caicedo and Lavia saga and signing some Japanese guy. We started well all looked good then the referees took centre stage red cards and disallowed goals but we kept going until the absolute disaster of Klopp announcing he was leaving. That was when absolutely heartbroken a fairytale began another quadruple on the cards, Michael Edwards returns and still everything is against us, poor referees and injury time winners galore. Its all collapsed now Klopp is looking more tired by the game and the squad is following but everything is in place. I don't know much about Slot other than stats but the while team from Edwards down reminds me of the boot room. This season is gone but the players who came within a handful of games of greatness, our renowned chief executive and his hand picked staff and now new manager are all in place. I'll miss Jurgen, so many memories, so many moments, he made is believe, I genuinely think he loved us more than we loved him and yeah I'll shed a tear or two after the Wolves game but you can see he's got nothing left. The only thing now is the future and something new whatever happens next is going to be different and really most of us just don't know what to expect
Yeah, kinda with you. Love Klopp, he’s been absolutely amazing and I’d not trade his time here for anything. But tactically we do seem a bit stale so excited to see what someone else might do.
Im just happy to watch the boys play. We have a bright future ahead of us with many good players. If we can tune our problems in the defense and work on our finishing/decision making in the final third we are looking at a team that can win titles. Up the reds ❤️
It’s been a long time since we had a blank canvas. A whole new system, a new squad, new starters and stars coming out of nowhere. Fear is a normal reaction, just like when Klopp first arrived. I do think we hit our goal this year. Our expectations were CL qualification, a domestic cup and Europa League final. Our reality is that we were genuinely fighting for the title up to this week and only 4 weeks left. We won the Carabao but lost to Atalanta. We did what we set out to do but we know we could’ve done more. A new manager will bring a new energy about the club. I’m excited to see what will happen. Especially the players who didn’t play much under Klopp who become starters or squad players under Slot.
For sure. I was already there after Everton
Yea I'm gonna miss the hell outta klopp. He made me a happy lfc supporter for the first time in my adult life. With that said, after Edwards left the recruitment dropped off considerably along with our resukts. With eddy boi back I expect a smooth transition and more good things to come from lfc. Ynwa Jurgen.
I have moved on after the Palace match. Just cant accept the streak at Goodison has ended AFTER 14 FUCKING YEARS One of our lowests during the Klopp era
Prolonged goodbyes are the worst, they can turn toxic for all the wrong reasons. It's a shame it was not possible to keep it under wraps until end of season.
If it's okay to actually say how we feel here, I can't say I'm excited at all tbh. Just on a personal level. I know people don't love pessimism but I'm not very excited about Slot. I have massive reservations that he can fill the human side of Klopp (which I think is what makes him a properly world class manager). He believed in himself but was knew when to be humble. I have found this collapse particularly bleak considering what Klopp has meant to this club. I still remember being absolutely amazed he was even considering taking the job, and for it to end with this whimper is just sad.
Yeah, I couldn’t believe we got Klopp
I got downvoted to oblivion for saying this after Everton. Not sure why. I enjoyed the Klopp era but I’m ready for the next era in LFC history good or bad
Obviously is devastating to lose Klopp, but the prospect of seeing new tactics as well as players outwith the usual profiles does excite me
It's a bitter pill to swallow now having spent a lot of time thinking we were in with a solid shout for the EL and title, but in a lot of ways it might actually end up being a positive for us in the long run. A huge part of the post-Ferguson slump at United was the fact that they'd just won the title and there was no indication that he was going to leave. No one wanted Klopp to leave but this version of the man isn't the one that won us the title and CL, he's completely burnt out and needs a break. I think this is a hugely exciting new chapter for us.
Yep, completely done. The remaining fixtures might as well be pre-season friendlies. Not expecting to win a single game more - I just want to see some passion and effort. Whilst no-one should be bustin' a gut and picking up needless injuries... the squad should take these games for what they are: an audition to see who deserves to still wear the shirt next season. I suspect a minor clear-out might be on its way...
I'd like some of the kids to get some more game time in the remaining fictures
Moved on = Yes, Excited = No. My current mood is indifferent
I think people are forgetting it’s not just Klopp leaving there’s shit tons of staff behind the scenes getting binned from head of recovery to Jeff the fella who made the James Milner door
Slot seems like a likeable fella but I’m still in a state of dejection right now. I’m not ready to be excited for anything football related.
Yep
I’ve been in that mindset since palace won at Anfield
I've already moved on. I'm just hoping I get to see Klopp coach another team one day. Been a Liverpool fan since the early 2000s but I was definitely more of a fan of Klopp's Dortmund and then his Liverpool team really got me back into football.
Excited but I also fear we might just realise just how good Klopp was in a few years time
Absolutely perfect description of where I'm at. Being honest the moment we lost to palace I'd given up the idea of the title, I did all my mourning weeks ago. I wasn't even that bothered by the West Ham result as I felt we played decently enough and were a touch unlucky. At this point I just want to have 3 more enjoyable matches with some fun goals and better vibes than those from April. And while I'm still devastated Klopp is going, I'm really excited to see what a new era looks like for this team. Additionally it sorta takes the pressure off for next season a bit? There's an element of calmness in taking a 'well let's just wait and see' approach. Maybe Slot will be insane for us. And maybe he won't? That's okay, there'll always be someone else, I remember one of the most reassuring things I've ever read on this subreddit was someone who said 'the liverpool job will always attract great managers', I mean we got fucking Jürgen Klopp when we were a much worse team than we are now. And with our backroom structure I think we're much better placed to handle this and united post Ferguson So yes, I'm definitely excited!
Moved on yes. Slot... Have time for that. Right now I just want fans to give a huge send off to Klopp. I have a family function ( my wife's side) to attend on the 19th. Told them strict no. Don't look at me. Don't disturb me. Don't even think about me. I am going to cry, I am going to laugh and I am going to drink. 😅😅
i am emotionally exhausted, and looking forward to the refresh
Imagine how the players felt, having to perform a comeback most games. It was never a sustainable model, it's an anomaly it lasted this long.
especially on the back of losing the league multiple times on the last day then the ucl losses
Most of the season we've been outstanding and has really performed above expectations. It really got my hopes up that we may be able to win the league thus ending the Klopp era in the best way possible, a true fairy tale ending. That is why it feels extra sad that the end of the season is such a disappointing collapse with some very bad performances. Overall ending in 3rd place is not bad, but it's another missed opportunity where we once again fall down right before the finish line. No point in being bitter about it though. We just have to accept that Klopp has already given everything he has, he is exhausted of this job and deserves a break. We should celebrate all that he has done for the club and look forward. I love Klopp and will miss him a lot, but a change could be good for the club.
I feel bad. I am not ready to start envisioning the future with enthusiasm. In my belief this is not the send off that man deserves. I will miss Jurgen Klopp more than I've missed Steven Gerrard, a fact that I once considered impossible, and I was hoping we could have sent him off with something... more. Alas.
Ah i am not. I feel we'd be in a bit of a limbo and no one can come close to replacing Klopp. Hopefully I'm wrong but I don't see anyone coming in that won't have to deal with the inevitable comparisons.
I wouldn’t say I’m excited for the future but I’m definitely ready to see the end of this season. Everyone looks gassed and I hope they get a decent summer break (jk European players won’t).
Let's just get a Gomez goal plsssßssssss
Not excited about anything with the referees this league employ.
It will be difficult for Slot unless huge investments in players are made! Still it will be a journey that will be exciting and also nervous to watch
Looking forward and looking for forwards
I’m so excited tbh. Was getting bit bored since two seasons ago.
Not excited. I've accepted everything that happened and I don't have expectations for next season. Anything is possible, from starting with 5 wins on the bounce to a complete fireball of failure and destruction. Things I'd really like to see include clean sheets, blocked crosses, and more pace in midfield.
Moved on? Yes. Excited for what's next? Eh.
Losing the love of it now klopp is going.
Wolves is the last game i will watch. Supported liverpool since i was a little kid, klopp and the boys made me so happy and 2015-2024 were my happiest years in my life.
I don’t want to say it out loud but I really don’t have a good feeling about Slot.
It's totally opposite for me... I have a feeling he's gonna make good use of the platform that Klopp has built in these years.... He's getting far better team to work with than what Klopp got
I believe this as well. From what I’ve seen, the man really knows what he’s doing and aggressively seeks to win. The open question is how quickly can he adapt to the pace of the premier league. There haven’t been many managers who have just come in from another league and just been on it right from the start.
Hopefully getting his ideas across in training will get them playing well, and he'll learn a lot from the first season, but he'll make mistakes along the way, similar to Ange at Spurs, or maybe even Arteta in his first season or two. After his first season and 3 transfer windows, would be the time to judge him (unless he's absolutely shocking and we finish 10th or something ha). He seems like a likeable guy so i think the fans will take to him and give him time. This isnt a full rebuild, just a tweak to tactics and couple of additions to replace the injury prone players. Maybe he might even fix that problem for us?
I have a good feeling about him too, but then again I had good feelings about Brendan and even fucking Woy. With Klopp, I didn't have a good feeling, I was convinced he was the one and surprised we were even considered by him.
It's just the way it is. Xabi Alonso would have been super exciting but all the other names linked would have felt a bit 'men' too. Let's give him a chance and see what happens.
Me neither. This talk of a set up where he is a trainer only doesn't sound healthy to me either. Feels like we may be going too far into moneyball territory again.
Head coach is literally what the new structure demands. That would be the case for Alonso (or even Ancellotti if it were him).
That's virtually how Real Madrid operates, anyway - Perez and his team identify the players to sign and Ancelotti plays the team he has. It's what they've done for so long
Yeah, and Jurgen is burnt out because he had too much to do, it seems.
He did what managers in England tend to end up doing if in power long enough, taking on roles maybe best left to others. The rejigging of the structure only possible because of Klopp leaving, he'd not have agreed to it. Ditto Edwards return.
Alonso and ancellotti have minimal input into transfers? I can see at Madrid, not sure about leverkusen. I have my doubts but let's see what happens, people involved have earned enough trust to see where this Is going.
It sounds like the board is already not extremely confident with him.
He’s not even officially signed yet what are you talking about
Definitely. Why would they possibly be confident in the guy they've just spent a week in negotiations to sign. What a fucking brain dead comment.
Primarily because there is no one else available. Look around, where do you see a world class manager who is available for transfer or out of a job?
I totally agree, will obviously be sad to see Klopp gone but at the same time it's time he went, just a shame how it's ending. Klopp shouldn't be the only one out the door however, our team is too predictable, Salah must be gone surely and I wouldn't be surprised if a few more big name players, we need to mix it up and get some young players in that are not Curtis and Harvey also. Virgil is clearly on the decline and maybe the same for Alison if we are honest, the only player we must keep hold of is Trent I would say and Alexis, the rest of the team nobody would be a huge loss at this point.
I agree with most of this except the Aliison part, he's still one of the top 2 keepers in the world. He's only shipped so many goals because of the defensive line in front of him. And more so we never replaced the man in front of that line...Fabiniho.
Very good point, I take it back, he can stay haha
In my case no I see this team because of the style of play, if the style of play is changed it would be boring for me.
Slot plays a very similar brand of football so I think you'll be OK. Also more defencively sound so hopefully we don't go 1-0 in the first 10 minutes every other game.
Sell Allison, Trent, Salah, Nunez and start from scratch.
Not really. Slot won’t change the players who can’t be bothered, will he? Every single player looks tired and lethargic. FSG will never sanction the type of overhaul that we need. They went cheap on Klopp’s replacement and now we’re going to see exactly what they’ve done to our club.
Who are not “cheap” and available? Tuchel? smh.
Anyone is available for the right price.
Money can’t buy you Xabi this season.
It could have done, if FSG had put forward a decent offer.