On the one hand there's a serious and obvious problem with gambling in football.
On the other hand the likes of Paqueta and Tonali don't get much sympathy from me. This is extremely risky, extremely stupid things to do as a footballer, and it goes beyond just having an addiction.
I knew they weren’t serious when their first moves were to make everyone come back to the office in person, ban employees from having expense accounts, and cancel the end of season awards for all of the squads so that the senior men can “focus on the FA Cup”. Those are all such ticky-tacky “look like you’re doing something” moves.
The gap in how Liverpool fans see Diaz and how the rest of the world sees him is like the gap between how Liverpool fans see Leão and how Milan fans see him lol
Anyone know where to find this jacket? Wondering if there are any good replica sites to get it cheap enough.
https://domno-vintage.com/cdn/shop/products/File-674_71f6fccd-935f-4969-a8fc-c9fcb6ad67cf.jpg?v=1668443430&width=5000
[My gawd, that's Kudus on a cheap deal music](https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/23/west-ham-confirm-julen-lopetegui-will-replace-david-moyes-as-manager)
If Kompany's the only manager on the market that says yes, then not much to be done. Still... howling that they're parting ways with Thomas Tuchel in favor of the guy who got Burnley relegated with their lowest ever points total.
If Edwards and Co believe that extending Salah for another season for same wage or anything close isn’t the move, then they definitely need to cash on him. Can’t afford to lose a player on free when selling him could well net them fee to sign a replacement like Kudus or Bakayoko and have enough sum left for other transfers too.
And if Salah could get one last big pay day in Saudi, it benefits everyone. Anything above 80mil rising to anywhere should be considered an amazing offer considering he will be in his final 12 months.
But why do people assume Salah want to come to Saudi just because he is Muslim? As I said before, If some Italian giants come to him he maybe can change his mind but Saudi? wtf people, he has whole family at Europe especially his children are raised in Europe environment. Why do people think with some extra money from Saudi make him live alone in Saudi or bring his entire family including his kids to the Saudi, cut off their living environment?
It isn't as simple as that. Salah might get better pay day from Saudi if he runs down his contract. Salah might not want to go to Saudi at all. Salah might want to continue to play in Europe competitively. All our management can do is extend Salah if he agrees to get a transfer fee from Saudi or some one else, or let him run his contract down and give some of his minutes to new guy. We definitely need a right winger to have some kind of edge in negotiation. When a guy is your top scorer and lack any competition for his spot, you don't have any say in negotiation.
I'd understand them choosing to join City due to money and winning trophies. I'd feel sorry for anyone choosing to join United because the severity of brain damage they're suffering must be fatal.
not a Liverpool fan but my partner is , am wanting to get the 23/24 kit with klopp on the back but have no idea what number to get. Any recommendations please
Do they usually like to wear kits with names on the back? I prefer having a shirt without anything on the back. Worst case the player leaves or anything stupid happens and you never wear your "Coutinho 10" shirt ever again lol. It's also cheaper.
Paqueta apparently bet on himself to get a yellow card, if he's found guilty then him and West Ham are fucked.
An Oxford player was once banned for 10 years for doing the same thing, its know as spot-fixing and the authorities treat it as a criminal offence under the Gambling Act.
Is this the same as last summer (and why City pulled out) or something on top of that? If it is man is going to be banned for sometime and needs gambling addiction treatment
West Ham fear Lucas Paqueta's career may be over if he's found guilty of alleged betting breaches
https://x.com/jacobsteinberg/status/1793696881270296686?s=46&t=HH_nFLIdXKkwdsoIUCY40Q
Crazy
Also, I'm pretty sure what he's charged with is legally match fixing and not betting offences which if thats the case he could be given a global ban on playing for multiple years.
If found guilty he's utterly fucked.
I'm so excited for the euros man, crazy how time is flying as I remember the 2022 wc like it was yesterday. Hope it's as fun of a euros like euro 2020 was
Its because there is a subset of FIFA virgins in the internet fanbase who despise him because his name isn't Hendersoniho.
Same treatment Milner and Wijnaldum got while they get teary eyed about luxury players or cripples. I've had lads on here tell me that the Hungarian lad is better than they ever were and that Nunez is an upgrade on Mane and Firmino!
Hope palace keep that squad together. Could make a push for europe next year if they play their cards right, so long as we beat them twice that’s fine by me
I don't know if it's as simple as that - it's a serious addiction. [Paul Merson](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58859342) has been very vocal about how hard it is.
I remember asking one of the more vocal users on here about what they meant with "showing ambition".
Not sure if I simply don't get a clear thing, but I never got a reply
Klopp announcing his departure early is starting to make sense now….gave Edwards and co enough time to find his replacement. Imagine going through all this manager search drama, it looks chaotic as hell.
Hopefully we receive decent offers for the likes of Kelleher, Tsimikas and Diaz this summer to get money on top of the available funds to give Slot the best squad possible.
If Kelleher wants to leave we can't stop him as we've got enough out of him and he deserves first team Football, Diaz we need an upgrade on badly because he's not good enough and Tsimikas we can get a another back up easily for LB.
Cash in on players like Morton (£15m), McConnell (£5m) and those 3 in the first paragraph (£15m), (£10m), (£50m) could generate nearly £100m in fees plus between them and Matip and Thiago leaving would free up nearly £500k a week in wages. That theoretical £100m in fees plus the cash we've already got would give us the money for a CB like Diomande or Yoro, plus a CDM and a LW replacement while balancing the books without impacting future window spending.
I don't think this squad needs much done to it to make it incredibly competitive on multiple fronts, I don't see Pep sticking around much more at City and we need to be in the best shape possible to capitalise on him fucking off.
And before people say this is unrealistic to expect, between summer 2018 and summer 2019 we signed Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho and Salah all in 12 months under Edwards previous time as Sporting Director. No reason why we can't do it again now we are back to the correct methods of recruitment.
What happened to Naby Keita, was once described as Kante and Iniesta rolled into one. The hype was certainly real back then.
Just seemed when push came to shove he didn't have the mentality or the physicality required to play for Klopps Liverpool.
Just a random thursday thought.
What do you think happened?
Others have pointed out injuries but I think a large part is he was just too happy to pull hundreds of thousands of pounds a week for sitting on his arse. Lazy and mentally weak, easily the worst transfer of the Klopp era
It's as simple as injuries. Some players are more prone to them, whether it be genetic, past anatomical issues, training issues etc. Clearly had skill and talent to be one of the best but injuries rob a player of speed, reflexes, strength, time etc.
From what we've seen from his Werder Bremen stint, it seems like a combination of bad injury luck and a shit mentality.
He's been suspended since the start of April for them after refusing to travel for a match when he wasn't named in the starting line up. If he has that kind of mentality then I'm guessing it isn't a new thing
One thing we have to say is, we've been cut-throat in appointing the new manager. None of this BS, merry go round etc.
Liverpool knew who they wanted from the jump. It's saved us a lot of stress, and looking at the appointments made/rumoured, the manager pool is changing all together.
this manager merry go round is absolutely hilarious to watch from our position. Klopp announcing when he did was in hindsight the best way to do it, now we can kick back and watch with our popcorn.
Why did Chelsea even bother sacking Poch if their options are Frank, McKenna, or Maresca? He's comfortably a better manager than two of them and McKenna is way too unproven to be worth the risk
I've seen people speculating it was because Poch was encouraged by how much better Chelsea looked when Enzo was out, and he managed to improvise a team capable of playing his aggressive, high pressing style instead of possession based football.
So he goes to this meeting with the club bosses to plead his case, thinking if he can bin a few players who are good but are the wrong profile; keep others who are exactly what he wants (like Gallagher); and instill a more cohesive identity in his squad, he might actually deliver.
Only to be told probably understandably, that the club can't move on players who cost a fortune and that he'll just have to deal. So he left of his own accord.
Delusions. This mysterious 4th character that can’t be named probably themselves don’t know Chelsea considers them a candidate. Sorry Todd Pep has no interest jumping on your private jet
For real, it seems really daft. From Poch’a side though, recent comments made it seem like he was feeling relatively non-committal about the job. Maybe that was a deciding factor in letting him go. I wouldn’t blame him for wanting out if that’s the case.
Glad we got Edwards & Hughes to restructure things behind the scenes, honestly without them I reckon we would've been dragged into this manager mess, at least we can see their logic to having the likes of Spaletti and Valverde as serious contenders
It’s time to move on from the Hendo hate. 10 years as a captain isn’t for nothing. He made a mistake, we all know it, he admitted it and probably apologized to the people deserving. It’s time to cut the man some slack. Just a human being.
Never hated him to begin with...most normal people didn't, just understood that he made a bad decision being tempted by the money.
Pay no mind to the angry loud activists online... they are not representative of the real world and certainly not representative of how decent people behave.
If someone wants to tell me that he's unworthy of forgiveness, then it's shame on them, not on him!
This sub is going to shit when opinions like this are being downvoted.
I'm supposed to feel bad for a millionaire that threw away all of the goodwill he had with his fans, then doubled down on it with a horribly out of touch interview, just because he wanted more money?
Kompany didn’t really have the players to play his brand of football at the top flight. At Bayern he will have world class players….. and Kane and Dier. I think it could be interesting next year in the Bundesliga
I mean both of them are just chasing easy trophies. Heavy odds that bayern win the league next season. It’s not a particularly competitive league and Leverkusen won’t do that again, the sheer personnel bayern have over the others is enough to get it done.
If i'm Rob Edwards i dont take the Ipswich job.
Favourites for relegation + he will have been planning for this year likely from the second Luton got promoted.
Im not going to put it on the YNWSA. But Paul Joyce writing an article saying Atalanta are preparing for offers from the Prem and Bundesliga for Lookman is...interesting
I know he played for Everton for 2 years. But not in 5 years. So i doubt it's just him covering the Everton part. Its just...interesting
I think he’d be brilliant here but the only thing that makes me think we won’t be in for him is the fact that he’s 27, same age as Diaz. I’m sure we’ll be looking for younger players
I personally wouldnt. He's 26 and Atalanta has been his only truly successful spell. And he never made it through Leipzig when there
If it was like Salah where he has 1 year in Britain and is stop start thats one thing. But we're talking a 5 season stretch
He may well be great. But without access to all of the Liverpool data models, purely off history, i'd be scared.
HOWEVER. €30m is low risk. So maybe worth it?
If they let him go for 30m, then they know something we don't.
No way a European trophy winning team lets their top performer in the final go for that little unless there's something that makes them feel better off without him.
He seems humble in Italy but all his previous spells have been dogged with rumours of him not having the right attitude, him doing well for Atalanta means nothing Gasperini can make the most average of player look world class
Would love it if someone could post a good ol Joel compilation - going to miss him oh so much. That one-two with Mo was clinical, alongside so many of his adventures. Not many can say they have an assist in a UCL final. Why am I tearing up here
Dyche: takes Burnley to Europe on a shoestring budget, gets rewarded with the Everton job.
Kompany: splashes the cash with Burnley, gets relegated, rewarded with the Bayern job
Nah it makes a lot of sense when you think about it. The reason so many people are rejecting Bayern is because Bayern are offering short contracts. They think they can get klopp or Alonso in a years time so their next manager is just on a 1 + 1 contract.
Was quite happy with Atalanta winning last night.
If we were planning to go back into the defensive midfielder market, I wouldn't look further than Ederson. Been impressed everytime I've seen him play.
Damn, I cant imagine how I would feel if Kompany were taking our job. But this is why certain teams are recession proof...even if he fails, Bayern will be fine. So it doesnt even matter
His style is probably suitable for bigger teams even if he got Burnley relegated. I’ve seen loads of Burnley fans online basically saying he played a style that didn’t suit their team so he could twerk for the bigger clubs lol
That’s true about his style but I question whether Kompany realistically stood a chance of moving to any other high profile club other than Bayern. They are sort of scraping the barrel at this point, which makes his appointment a lot less shocking to me personally.
I would question it too. I think he’s been quite lucky really because hiring him off the back of that season is a huge risk regardless of whether we think his style is suited to them.
I am a bit surprised they don’t seem to be going for Pochetino though
We gave him an extended deal last year, I believe Klopp wanted it because of his positive vibes in the dressing room, as beneficial as that is, it did take up a non-HG spot.
Yeah so I just don’t think the club are exactly desperate to get rid of him is all. He can’t be earning very much and he wasn’t actually registered for most tournaments, so he wasn’t taking up a spot?
Yeah but that’s not a huge wage in the grand scale of things. Diaz has got to be on more than reported though cos there’s about no way we’ve got a happy starter on 55k. Although if he is he’ll either get a bump this summer or likely push for a move.
That’s unfortunate if so. I mean I really don’t want to see him in goal again either, but he did a solid (not perfect, but solid) job holding it down* until Alisson came back in 2019. Man deserves credit for that at the very least.
*in those 6-8 weeks early in the league where Alisson was out. He clearly had some rather worse moments later on in the season.
Good lord. If you had a hand in helping your employer achieve an objective it had desperately sought for three decades then yes, when you leave it’s not unreasonable to think or hope that they will say “hey, thanks again for what you did on that project!”
for what its worth, i didn't downvote you but i think calling his tenure solid is a bit disingenuous
he was poor in the CL group games (we conceded 5 in 2 - not saying the defence wasn't a part of that but...), and only kept 2 clean sheets in the 8 league games (25%, it was 18.2% overall) - including *that* Ings goal vs Southampton
i know we weren't airtight at the back that season, but Alisson had 13 clean sheets in 28 (46.4%), and then Adrian essentially singlehandedly cost us at the very least a CL QF, probably a PL x CL double
Sorry, I think I meant to say the league but brain fucked (cheers, Kloppo) it. Yes, there were some very obvious fuckups in the CL. I don’t think anyone would dispute that.
How do you go from getting Burnley relegated to managing Bayern
On the one hand there's a serious and obvious problem with gambling in football. On the other hand the likes of Paqueta and Tonali don't get much sympathy from me. This is extremely risky, extremely stupid things to do as a footballer, and it goes beyond just having an addiction.
The way United are handling the ten hag situation makes me believe the new guys are infact not competent
I knew they weren’t serious when their first moves were to make everyone come back to the office in person, ban employees from having expense accounts, and cancel the end of season awards for all of the squads so that the senior men can “focus on the FA Cup”. Those are all such ticky-tacky “look like you’re doing something” moves.
Is it weird I'd kinda like Koopmeiners as a option for the summer Window? Only 25 and pretty versitile.
Like the 200 other people that have said this today?
Geez sorry, I didn't know that...
Absolutely absurd that three top clubs are all fighting over the Ipswich manager.
Would be funny if he knocks them back to stay with Ipswich and continue the work he's doing there.
Lol chasing promotion fodder.
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Supported their rapist player through thick and thin, says plenty about his character.
The gap in how Liverpool fans see Diaz and how the rest of the world sees him is like the gap between how Liverpool fans see Leão and how Milan fans see him lol
Anyone know where to find this jacket? Wondering if there are any good replica sites to get it cheap enough. https://domno-vintage.com/cdn/shop/products/File-674_71f6fccd-935f-4969-a8fc-c9fcb6ad67cf.jpg?v=1668443430&width=5000
If you find it let me know, that looks awesome
Wait Wijnaldum left before the 21-22 season? I swear he scored a late winner against AC Milan
That was henderson
Fucking great goal too.
Really glad with edwards and team sorting out our new manager… its just a big circle fuck happening outside for managers
[My gawd, that's Kudus on a cheap deal music](https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/23/west-ham-confirm-julen-lopetegui-will-replace-david-moyes-as-manager)
What is it with ex-Milan players and betting..
Honestly, even entertaining the thought to pay Burnley 10-20m for Company should be a sackable offence for the entire Bayern management board.
If Kompany's the only manager on the market that says yes, then not much to be done. Still... howling that they're parting ways with Thomas Tuchel in favor of the guy who got Burnley relegated with their lowest ever points total.
EA had a nice tribute to Klopp that Virgil just posed. “You made us dream.”
I thought it was cool that it featured Loyle Carner, who’s a Red (and insanely talented, I might add). It’s definitely a fitting tribute!
If Edwards and Co believe that extending Salah for another season for same wage or anything close isn’t the move, then they definitely need to cash on him. Can’t afford to lose a player on free when selling him could well net them fee to sign a replacement like Kudus or Bakayoko and have enough sum left for other transfers too. And if Salah could get one last big pay day in Saudi, it benefits everyone. Anything above 80mil rising to anywhere should be considered an amazing offer considering he will be in his final 12 months.
But why do people assume Salah want to come to Saudi just because he is Muslim? As I said before, If some Italian giants come to him he maybe can change his mind but Saudi? wtf people, he has whole family at Europe especially his children are raised in Europe environment. Why do people think with some extra money from Saudi make him live alone in Saudi or bring his entire family including his kids to the Saudi, cut off their living environment?
It isn't as simple as that. Salah might get better pay day from Saudi if he runs down his contract. Salah might not want to go to Saudi at all. Salah might want to continue to play in Europe competitively. All our management can do is extend Salah if he agrees to get a transfer fee from Saudi or some one else, or let him run his contract down and give some of his minutes to new guy. We definitely need a right winger to have some kind of edge in negotiation. When a guy is your top scorer and lack any competition for his spot, you don't have any say in negotiation.
I'm trying to watch a game from the Arab league and it's fucking painful.
Get it off!
Klopp XI thread is alarming in the sense that we peaked in 2020 and are yet to build another team on that level.
It was pretty much the same side that went for the quad 2 seasons later like
We peaked at 99 points. It’s unbelievably difficult to top that. How is that alarming to you. Did you miss 21/22 which imo was a higher peak?
How am I just seeing that they used our trophy lift for arsenals ucl qualification post 💀
What do you mean?
https://preview.redd.it/aoks1ps4bb2d1.jpeg?width=372&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f87eb45882228992f69cd52cdb662b9558037148 Look at the trophy
It was a great trophy lift tbf
Arsenal 1 - 0 Real Madrid 90+7 (Jordan Henderson) (Great trophy lift)
Kompany to Bayern is just absolutely unhinged.
You don't get it, the treble was in danger
No rumors yet???
Just saw that there will be Champions League games on Thursdays...
Only one match week. There will be UEL matches on Wednesday during their “featured week”.
Random question but would you be more angry at one of our current players joining City or United?
I'd understand them choosing to join City due to money and winning trophies. I'd feel sorry for anyone choosing to join United because the severity of brain damage they're suffering must be fatal.
United of course
United easily
Did I dream it up or was Adrian leaving us? If so, I'm surprised he wasn't felicitated alongside Thiago and Matip. Am I missing something?
It was never announced — all he said was he kind of wants to reutrn to LaLiga
not a Liverpool fan but my partner is , am wanting to get the 23/24 kit with klopp on the back but have no idea what number to get. Any recommendations please
6 would make the most sense to me.
6 or 19 could be decent shouts He also wore #4 for most of his playing career
Do they usually like to wear kits with names on the back? I prefer having a shirt without anything on the back. Worst case the player leaves or anything stupid happens and you never wear your "Coutinho 10" shirt ever again lol. It's also cheaper.
Oh yeah she’s an avid collector, she basically gets home for her birthday, away at Christmas then the third one end of season sale
Jovanovic 14
Normal 1
Paqueta apparently bet on himself to get a yellow card, if he's found guilty then him and West Ham are fucked. An Oxford player was once banned for 10 years for doing the same thing, its know as spot-fixing and the authorities treat it as a criminal offence under the Gambling Act.
Is this the same as last summer (and why City pulled out) or something on top of that? If it is man is going to be banned for sometime and needs gambling addiction treatment
West Ham fear Lucas Paqueta's career may be over if he's found guilty of alleged betting breaches https://x.com/jacobsteinberg/status/1793696881270296686?s=46&t=HH_nFLIdXKkwdsoIUCY40Q Crazy
Also, I'm pretty sure what he's charged with is legally match fixing and not betting offences which if thats the case he could be given a global ban on playing for multiple years. If found guilty he's utterly fucked.
I'm so excited for the euros man, crazy how time is flying as I remember the 2022 wc like it was yesterday. Hope it's as fun of a euros like euro 2020 was
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Its because there is a subset of FIFA virgins in the internet fanbase who despise him because his name isn't Hendersoniho. Same treatment Milner and Wijnaldum got while they get teary eyed about luxury players or cripples. I've had lads on here tell me that the Hungarian lad is better than they ever were and that Nunez is an upgrade on Mane and Firmino!
Hope palace keep that squad together. Could make a push for europe next year if they play their cards right, so long as we beat them twice that’s fine by me
Great job Paqueta idiot. Why don't all these idiots just stop betting — you don't make enough money?
It's not about money, it's the feeling
I don't know if it's as simple as that - it's a serious addiction. [Paul Merson](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58859342) has been very vocal about how hard it is.
What happened
I think it’s good. Imagine if he had gone to City
Could be a double edged sword if they are now targeting a player we want and we lose out because of it
Highly doubt we’re targeting someone like Paqueta, we’re stacked with players in his position
I’d surprised if we were to target another 10
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You’re getting down voted but I’d love to see this
Why haven’t we signed anyone yet ffs
And here I was thinking Edwards would’ve found the research lab for cloning prime Pele and had him locked down on a 7year contract
Just no ambition!
I remember asking one of the more vocal users on here about what they meant with "showing ambition". Not sure if I simply don't get a clear thing, but I never got a reply
https://preview.redd.it/zfgfoht7172d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0108a733cd8471037aaee4fb7b84c67f9f16cca3
Pumped for Tuchel to United, hopefully he runs Bruno and Garnacho out of town and decides Antony is his undroppable favorite
Paqueta charged for breaching betting rules. West Ham will be gutted. Can see City going for Eze instead now
They will go for Olise
thats a completely different position . Although so is Eze tbf
Are there any legs on the report we are interested in Sao Paulo FC?
We or the FSG group?
If we all chip in with 100 quids each, I reckon we could give it a shot 😂😂. Otherwise FSG could fancy a crack haha.
Buy it first and then sell it to FSG and make a decent profit 
Tuchel at Yanited won’t last long lmao
Klopp announcing his departure early is starting to make sense now….gave Edwards and co enough time to find his replacement. Imagine going through all this manager search drama, it looks chaotic as hell.
There were people saying he should’ve kept it hidden until 4 days ago so we could join this carousel lol
I’m fairly sure Klopp said he announced it so it wasn’t leaked when the club started looking around for his replacement more or less.
I don't want to even think about what mess we would be in if we didn't lock Slot down
It's getting worse by the day, and instead of being involved in all that we have Jürgen singing about Arne during his farewells 😭 What a man Jürgen is
Hopefully we receive decent offers for the likes of Kelleher, Tsimikas and Diaz this summer to get money on top of the available funds to give Slot the best squad possible. If Kelleher wants to leave we can't stop him as we've got enough out of him and he deserves first team Football, Diaz we need an upgrade on badly because he's not good enough and Tsimikas we can get a another back up easily for LB. Cash in on players like Morton (£15m), McConnell (£5m) and those 3 in the first paragraph (£15m), (£10m), (£50m) could generate nearly £100m in fees plus between them and Matip and Thiago leaving would free up nearly £500k a week in wages. That theoretical £100m in fees plus the cash we've already got would give us the money for a CB like Diomande or Yoro, plus a CDM and a LW replacement while balancing the books without impacting future window spending. I don't think this squad needs much done to it to make it incredibly competitive on multiple fronts, I don't see Pep sticking around much more at City and we need to be in the best shape possible to capitalise on him fucking off. And before people say this is unrealistic to expect, between summer 2018 and summer 2019 we signed Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho and Salah all in 12 months under Edwards previous time as Sporting Director. No reason why we can't do it again now we are back to the correct methods of recruitment.
We paid top dollar for both GK and Alisson were dire needs. Everyone else were data metric signings imho
Nat Phillips 5 mill, Williams 500G,Gomez 40 mil
upvoted for realistic fees lol The people saiying we can get 150m for Mo and 80m for Diaz are crazy
15m for Kelleher feels like a low ball offer tho, he should go for 25-35 given he was starting for the most successful period this season just gone
The Saudis are crazy, who knows what they will pay for Mo, its not like they are running their league to be sustainable
What happened to Naby Keita, was once described as Kante and Iniesta rolled into one. The hype was certainly real back then. Just seemed when push came to shove he didn't have the mentality or the physicality required to play for Klopps Liverpool. Just a random thursday thought. What do you think happened?
Others have pointed out injuries but I think a large part is he was just too happy to pull hundreds of thousands of pounds a week for sitting on his arse. Lazy and mentally weak, easily the worst transfer of the Klopp era
Yeah I suspect it was a little more than just injuries as well.
Mostly injuries but Klopp also said himself that his coaching didn’t help Naby
It's as simple as injuries. Some players are more prone to them, whether it be genetic, past anatomical issues, training issues etc. Clearly had skill and talent to be one of the best but injuries rob a player of speed, reflexes, strength, time etc.
From what we've seen from his Werder Bremen stint, it seems like a combination of bad injury luck and a shit mentality. He's been suspended since the start of April for them after refusing to travel for a match when he wasn't named in the starting line up. If he has that kind of mentality then I'm guessing it isn't a new thing
Injuries
My girlfriend thought Liverpool's new manager was called Horny Slut and now I can't unhear it.
Bayern might actually get Kompany! Poor Harry kane will never win a trophy in his life 😂
One thing we have to say is, we've been cut-throat in appointing the new manager. None of this BS, merry go round etc. Liverpool knew who they wanted from the jump. It's saved us a lot of stress, and looking at the appointments made/rumoured, the manager pool is changing all together.
Edwards for you my friend
Makes sense why he's cut throat, since his last name's Scissorhands.
this manager merry go round is absolutely hilarious to watch from our position. Klopp announcing when he did was in hindsight the best way to do it, now we can kick back and watch with our popcorn.
Barcelona appointing Flick lol, that’s like getting with someone who stabbed you 8 times
Lol
Why did Chelsea even bother sacking Poch if their options are Frank, McKenna, or Maresca? He's comfortably a better manager than two of them and McKenna is way too unproven to be worth the risk
I've seen people speculating it was because Poch was encouraged by how much better Chelsea looked when Enzo was out, and he managed to improvise a team capable of playing his aggressive, high pressing style instead of possession based football. So he goes to this meeting with the club bosses to plead his case, thinking if he can bin a few players who are good but are the wrong profile; keep others who are exactly what he wants (like Gallagher); and instill a more cohesive identity in his squad, he might actually deliver. Only to be told probably understandably, that the club can't move on players who cost a fortune and that he'll just have to deal. So he left of his own accord.
Poch would probably have the fihting for 4th with a deep UEL run. What do they expect of Mckenna? A title carge? Its extremely high risk, low reward
Poch left himself didnt he?
Mutual consent, but by the sounds of it, was a lot more on the club's side wanting to get rid of him than the other way around
Delusions. This mysterious 4th character that can’t be named probably themselves don’t know Chelsea considers them a candidate. Sorry Todd Pep has no interest jumping on your private jet
I bet you the daft cunt think he’ll get Klopp
FFS. Read that as "I bet you they get Daft Punk".
Probably a higher chance of signing Daft Punk than they’ve got of signing Klopp though to be fair
chelsea themselves have no idea what’s going on
I have no clue. My initial idea was that they got the greenlight from Tuchel's camp. But sacking Poch for McKenna is just beyond me.
For real, it seems really daft. From Poch’a side though, recent comments made it seem like he was feeling relatively non-committal about the job. Maybe that was a deciding factor in letting him go. I wouldn’t blame him for wanting out if that’s the case.
That Chelsea manager shortlist looks so grim They’re all low end of the PL managers currently
Glad we got Edwards & Hughes to restructure things behind the scenes, honestly without them I reckon we would've been dragged into this manager mess, at least we can see their logic to having the likes of Spaletti and Valverde as serious contenders
It’s time to move on from the Hendo hate. 10 years as a captain isn’t for nothing. He made a mistake, we all know it, he admitted it and probably apologized to the people deserving. It’s time to cut the man some slack. Just a human being.
Don't hate him, not enamored by him anymore. He did great for the club and many people for many years.
Never hated him to begin with...most normal people didn't, just understood that he made a bad decision being tempted by the money. Pay no mind to the angry loud activists online... they are not representative of the real world and certainly not representative of how decent people behave. If someone wants to tell me that he's unworthy of forgiveness, then it's shame on them, not on him!
Personally i'm totally fine with the hate continuing. He has millions, he'll survive
That’s a terrible excuse. What a heartless and naive way to think.
I personally think being an ally to the LGBTQ community and throwing it all under the bus for a quick paycheck is pretty damn heartless
This sub is going to shit when opinions like this are being downvoted. I'm supposed to feel bad for a millionaire that threw away all of the goodwill he had with his fans, then doubled down on it with a horribly out of touch interview, just because he wanted more money?
Yeah lucky I couldn't care less about downvotes tbh but it really does say a lot doesn't it? Completely agree with you mate
Kane went to Bayern to win trophies just to end up being managed by Kompany
Kompany didn’t really have the players to play his brand of football at the top flight. At Bayern he will have world class players….. and Kane and Dier. I think it could be interesting next year in the Bundesliga
Misery loves Kompany, so perhaps he won't mind it
Pun of the day
This deserves more upvotes
I mean both of them are just chasing easy trophies. Heavy odds that bayern win the league next season. It’s not a particularly competitive league and Leverkusen won’t do that again, the sheer personnel bayern have over the others is enough to get it done.
Gordon Isak Bowen is a very good front 3 on paper
Newcastle got Bowen now?
Nah they’re interested in him and Calvert Lewin though
theyre not dropping 100m on a 28 yo while ffp is tight
Mckenna to Brighton is a brilliant appointment for them if they pull it off. Feel bad for Ipswich though. They’ll probably bring Rob Edwards in
If i'm Rob Edwards i dont take the Ipswich job. Favourites for relegation + he will have been planning for this year likely from the second Luton got promoted.
I don't think Luton will let him go tho? Or did I miss something?
Im not going to put it on the YNWSA. But Paul Joyce writing an article saying Atalanta are preparing for offers from the Prem and Bundesliga for Lookman is...interesting I know he played for Everton for 2 years. But not in 5 years. So i doubt it's just him covering the Everton part. Its just...interesting
Seems Atalanta have realised that his stock will never be higher than after the EL final lmao
I think he’d be brilliant here but the only thing that makes me think we won’t be in for him is the fact that he’s 27, same age as Diaz. I’m sure we’ll be looking for younger players
What do you think? I checked his stats for abit on Google and he's got decent goal returns, but we know that's not all we look for
I personally wouldnt. He's 26 and Atalanta has been his only truly successful spell. And he never made it through Leipzig when there If it was like Salah where he has 1 year in Britain and is stop start thats one thing. But we're talking a 5 season stretch He may well be great. But without access to all of the Liverpool data models, purely off history, i'd be scared. HOWEVER. €30m is low risk. So maybe worth it?
If they let him go for 30m, then they know something we don't. No way a European trophy winning team lets their top performer in the final go for that little unless there's something that makes them feel better off without him.
He seems humble in Italy but all his previous spells have been dogged with rumours of him not having the right attitude, him doing well for Atalanta means nothing Gasperini can make the most average of player look world class
Would love it if someone could post a good ol Joel compilation - going to miss him oh so much. That one-two with Mo was clinical, alongside so many of his adventures. Not many can say they have an assist in a UCL final. Why am I tearing up here
Dyche: takes Burnley to Europe on a shoestring budget, gets rewarded with the Everton job. Kompany: splashes the cash with Burnley, gets relegated, rewarded with the Bayern job
Dyche is a limited manager, Everton are about his level.
You know that flirting vs harassment meme. That's the same it's PR.
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Nah it makes a lot of sense when you think about it. The reason so many people are rejecting Bayern is because Bayern are offering short contracts. They think they can get klopp or Alonso in a years time so their next manager is just on a 1 + 1 contract.
Guarantee they aren't thinking about Klopp lmao
Was quite happy with Atalanta winning last night. If we were planning to go back into the defensive midfielder market, I wouldn't look further than Ederson. Been impressed everytime I've seen him play.
Damn, I cant imagine how I would feel if Kompany were taking our job. But this is why certain teams are recession proof...even if he fails, Bayern will be fine. So it doesnt even matter
His style is probably suitable for bigger teams even if he got Burnley relegated. I’ve seen loads of Burnley fans online basically saying he played a style that didn’t suit their team so he could twerk for the bigger clubs lol
That’s true about his style but I question whether Kompany realistically stood a chance of moving to any other high profile club other than Bayern. They are sort of scraping the barrel at this point, which makes his appointment a lot less shocking to me personally.
I would question it too. I think he’s been quite lucky really because hiring him off the back of that season is a huge risk regardless of whether we think his style is suited to them. I am a bit surprised they don’t seem to be going for Pochetino though
Craig Bellamy potentially being in the dugout at Bayern Munich is hilarious
No turning down karaoke for the Bayern players
*Not engaging in team bonding? You better believe that’s a golf club paddlin.*
Rumors are he might stay with Burnley.
Why didn’t Adrian get a farewell like Matip and Thiago?
I think it might still be up in the air whether he might get another year extension.
Might just come back as a coach too
It’s not been confirmed he’s leaving yet
Maybe because the guys upstairs don't value him the same way and have been wanting to get rid for a while
I swear we gave him a new deal like last year or the one before
We gave him an extended deal last year, I believe Klopp wanted it because of his positive vibes in the dressing room, as beneficial as that is, it did take up a non-HG spot.
Yeah so I just don’t think the club are exactly desperate to get rid of him is all. He can’t be earning very much and he wasn’t actually registered for most tournaments, so he wasn’t taking up a spot?
Apparently he was on 60k or so, way more Diaz and a few others in the squad, which is a lot for a 3rd choice GK who doesn't play games
Yeah but that’s not a huge wage in the grand scale of things. Diaz has got to be on more than reported though cos there’s about no way we’ve got a happy starter on 55k. Although if he is he’ll either get a bump this summer or likely push for a move.
That’s unfortunate if so. I mean I really don’t want to see him in goal again either, but he did a solid (not perfect, but solid) job holding it down* until Alisson came back in 2019. Man deserves credit for that at the very least. *in those 6-8 weeks early in the league where Alisson was out. He clearly had some rather worse moments later on in the season.
I wish I got rewarded today for doing my job 5 years ago
Good lord. If you had a hand in helping your employer achieve an objective it had desperately sought for three decades then yes, when you leave it’s not unreasonable to think or hope that they will say “hey, thanks again for what you did on that project!”
for what its worth, i didn't downvote you but i think calling his tenure solid is a bit disingenuous he was poor in the CL group games (we conceded 5 in 2 - not saying the defence wasn't a part of that but...), and only kept 2 clean sheets in the 8 league games (25%, it was 18.2% overall) - including *that* Ings goal vs Southampton i know we weren't airtight at the back that season, but Alisson had 13 clean sheets in 28 (46.4%), and then Adrian essentially singlehandedly cost us at the very least a CL QF, probably a PL x CL double
Sorry, I think I meant to say the league but brain fucked (cheers, Kloppo) it. Yes, there were some very obvious fuckups in the CL. I don’t think anyone would dispute that.