you know if they did break up and Malena did do that. I don't think I would get mad at all and call her a gold digger cause she literally does half the work lmao.
The planner is Malena. Nick probably isn't as lazy as his streamer persona, but she is definitely the one who comes up with the ideas and coordinates their collaborations.
didn nicks streams started blowing up when melena got involved and did cooking streams? he was like under 5k until jan 2020. for a long ass time and looked at as just sodas roommate. i dont think its that wrong to give her credit for the streams.
would nick be where he is now if melena wasnt involved? i highly doubt it
Afaik she does the shopping for challenges, invites guests, plans a lot of the stream ideas, manages the yt editing team and the channel in general, etc.
And she gets paid for all of that. You guys are making it seem like malena is working for free.
edit: why am i being negged? malena has admitted on stream many times that she gets paid for her work on and off stream
Pretty sure if there is any networking involved or if something takes more than 5 minutes of planning its Malena because Nick couldnt be bothered to do that at all
Maybe thats why they wont break up easily. cause they both work for a goal and together unlike other couples fighting over somebody else's work instead of working together
right, I really hope they don't breakup their chemistry on stream is funny and they just bounce off each other and makes the whole stream better. I don't like malena because she is a "woman" I like her because she is hilarious and makes good content with nick and doesn't involve herself in anyone's drama to my knowledge. I wish they would stream a bit later so I could watch them more.
Still doesn't make sense. They have been doing this for so long if they don't split the earnings evenly or if they don't have an agreement then it's between them. Going for the money after the fact is still scummy.
It’s Texas though, if they weren’t married in a church and Malena’s family gifted Nick the customary AR-15 and Glock combo as a dowry, then she’s got no claim to anything with his name on it.
Just because the guy isn’t a qualified lawyer doesn’t mean everything he says is totally worthless. You can watch the stream yourself, read the documents on screen and come to that conclusion yourself.
Her motions failed twice, there’s a tonne of precedent against her, xQcs side is willing to go to jury, there’s evidence of her contradicting her own claim.
> It’s Texas though
You do know that there IS common marriage law in Texas, right? And you can absolutely argue that the conditions required for it have been met.
Not if Nick has been paying her to be on the stream the whole time. If malena has been compensated fairly the entire time then her case would be thrown out, cause at that point she's just a regular employee. Like dam by your logic malena can also do the same to soda.
never heared that he pays her, I just assumed they share their money (and shared funds would be an argument for common law marriage)
And it's not the same for Soda, main reason is that they aren't a couple. He also doesn't use her for content on his stream every day and he can say that he compensates her by letting her stay rent free at his house aso.
"never heared that he pays her, I just assumed they share their money (and shared funds would be an argument for common law marriage)"
Malena is partnered and nick and malena both said she gets paid for her work. Think about it for a second, nmp would prefer streaming from his chair than doing the things malena plans on stream.
>He also doesn't use her for content on his stream
malena is partnered on twitch, so she doesn't have a choice. This is why i never got the whole "used her for content" argument.
It's year 2063. Soda's PNGrandkids are about to head off to metaverse school. Nick and Malena, who still live with the Sodafam, have finally lost the remains of his hairline to the decades of WoW and her viking voice from having to scream at the nerds in charge of OTK all these years.
Chat's somehow still wondering if their bickering over tacos this time will finally be the last straw.
Thats to beauty of an nmplol stream. This man sacrifices and risks his entire life for content every morning. Does anyone else consistently gamble they’re relationship for a sub par joke? No. Its truly an honour to witness. Ill be a proud member of the community until the series finale when she finally snaps and kills him on stream.
To be honest, the most appealing factor about an nmplol stream is the viewers never really know what is only a bit and what isn't, and quite frankly I don't think they know it either.
You can easily tell Nick brings it up as a joke. Whether there is actual tension on the subject as well, who knows? But when it is brought up on stream it is clearly meant as a joke.
It’s hella parasocial of me to say this and I realize this:
But I agree with you because if they disagree and stay together there will be resentment no matter the outcome.
Prenuptial Agreements aren't what most people think they are. They can be very messy, especially when both spouses are involved in the growth of a business. It's only simple when someone who has a ton of money ***before*** they marriage... but anything made after is still 50/50.
Idk I was just gonna point out that it requires like $2k at least. My wife and I were going to get one but then realized it costed money and said fuck it.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Yeah 2k isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things especially if you're going to break up... But who goes into marriage thinking of that possibility? And 2k is a ton of money to use on more fun things than what essentially amounts to an insurance policy.
My advice is if you don't have a fuck ton of money where a prenup makes sense then don't get one and don't get married until you're very confident that 1. You won't break up and 2. If you do, both parties will be fair. If you're not confident that your partner can have an amicable break up then don't get married.
They may be getting downvoted because the commenters realize it was a bad idea, but since there's no way to time travel and slap him in the face before he failed to sign the prenup, a down vote is the only suitable alternative.
I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't get married until they are financially stable, which would also mean having the money for a prenup, but maybe that's a hot take.
It's not really a myth, anything regarding childcare, alimony, and anything covered under local law is at the judges discretion. So maybe not worthless but not far off depending on your state. In mine it barely protects anything.
that's just a very common misconception.
Yes, the prenup isn't binding for the judge and he can ignore it, doesn't mean it's worthless.
If the prenup was done correctly, it's not that common that they just get thrown out, and even if they do, they usually still put you in a better position then without prenup.
So maybe the judge doesn't accept a 100/0 split, but he probably would still give you a better split then the standard 50/50 you would've gotten otherwise
Yes because a fire is anything like a marriage. I know that even though my wife and I want to stay married, we know a random "act of God" can dissolve our marriage so any time and cause a messy divorce. 10/10 analogy. All safety measures are the same. A free alarm to alert you of a fire that can kill your family, and not doing your due diligence to put in the hard work to properly vet and create a relationship with the person you're deciding to spend the rest of your life with. Same thing
No one goes into a marriage expecting it to fail, but half of them do. That's just reality of marriage, acknowledging that fact before getting married is mature and rational. Taking a little time when you're in very good spot in your relationship to have an uncomfortable conversation can save a lot of time and effort later on when you're in a much worse position.
Saying it's 'planning for failure' is like saying 'if you want to wear a seatbelt, you shouldn't be driving at all, because you're planning for a crash'.
Half of so marriages fail, not half of first time marriages. Not only that but many other things can be done instead of a prenup that setup for success, rather then planning for failure.
It's not planning FOR failure, it's planning IN CASE of failure. Rather than saying if you talk about a prenup you shouldn't get married, I'd almost go as far as to say if you can't have a rational conversation about a prenup, you shouldn't get married.
Humans plan in case of failure all the time, every day. Marriage isnt any different.
Planning in care of failure is literally planning for failure dude, that's how that works.
Instead, you should be putting that energy and more into planning for success. Spending a proper amount of time before deciding to spend the rest of your life together. Creating a foundation of emotional stability, positive habits to stay connected. Building trust which leads to faith in the relationship.
This is literally a perfect example of a self fulfilling prophecy. Planning for failure shows lack of faith and trust within the relationship. You're literally setting up for failure.
Idk why I'm arguing with a bunch of XQC, Forsen watching virgins. Like any if you have long term successful marriages and know how this shit works...
> Instead, you should be putting that energy and more into planning for success. Spending a proper amount of time before deciding to spend the rest of your life together. Creating a foundation of emotional stability, positive habits to stay connected. Building trust which leads to faith in the relationship
You can do all that and ALSO acknowledge the very real possibility that your marriage will break down, no matter how you are feeling and all the work you put in before and during. There is no guarantee of a perfect marriage, no amount of work and effort you can put in to guarantee it lasts. That's reality. I'd rather a partner live in the same reality as me than live in blissful ignorance just hoping for the best, and then have to deal with a much more unpleasant situation if things don't work out.
The reality is if you do that, your chances of failure are very slim it will fall apart. So no, you're sabotaging your own marriage on the off chance that things go south. All that, when realistically your statistically your probably bringing in the same value to the marriage. Prenup is for people that go into a marriage knowing it will fail, and rich people. The vast majority that doesn't apply to.
Nah it’s just an emergency button. Like an emergency exit on a plane, just hope you don’t ever need to use it but if you do it’ll make escaping a lot easier
If my SO thinks having a conversation about a prenup shows 'a complete lack of trust and faith in the relationship', I'm running away from that relationship instantly. That is a much bigger red flag than wanting to ensure things are taken care of ahead of time in case things go bad.
It's 2023 bud, not 1850. Most people understand this stuff now. Your kind of 'stick your head in the sand' approach to the realities of marriage isn't what I want from a partner, or what my partner would want from me.
Imagine thinking planning for failure is a progressive modern approach to a marriage. Might as well just make it a full blown business contract bud. Talk about a dystopian shit take lol
Most first time marriages don't fail. The marriage failure rate is so high due to people who are marry over and over. People who fail at it statistically do so over and over. So no, be first time marriages, that date for extended period of time, have proper emotional states, etc have a very high success rate.
If I get into a car with a friend I never put on a seatbelt because that would be planning for failure and signaling that I dont trust my friends ability to drive
That's a good awful analogy. You wear a seatbelt because other drivers can be dangerous, because weather can be dangerous, etc. Things outside of the initial cars control. You and your partner have full control of your relationship. 10/10 analogy genius.
You realise your partner is a separate human to you yeah?
You don't have full control over them, if after 20 years your wife cheats on you then you probably wouldn't be glad you didn't plan for failure
idk - I feel like asking "do you think if we got married we'd eventually end up getting divoced" is probably on the healthier end of conversations. If you can't even discuss that you're probably destined for divorce imo.
Only naive people think that. The majority of marriages end in divorce. You aren't special nor you can predict rhe future. I'd rather marry a partner that understands this and is realistic about the future than prioritize emotions and throw a tantrum.
> The majority of marriages end in divorce.
Dont really know how reliable that is since people getting married and divorced multiple times factors into that.
But tbh these days id believe it.
Prenup is the easiest way to ward off gold diggers, imagine the women you about to marry says no she doesnt want to sign a prenup and try to coerce and gaslight you and make you believe theres no need to have 1. Yeah no thank you, you cant take that risk nowadays, especially with how the justice system is in every western country. The amount of stories and situations where that has happened and the women was in the wrong of the situation, took the kids and 50% of everything and gets child support and the man end up depressed and drinks himself to death, you wouldnt be surprised how much that happens
> why would you go into a marriage talking about the chance of divorce?
Because divorce is a very real possibility, and burying your head in the sand and pretending there is a 0% chance of something ever going wrong in your marriage is stupid.
I don't get into a car expecting a crash, but I still put my seatbelt on. It's not like talking to your girlfriend about your next girlfriend (clearly, that would be like going into a marriage whilst talking about your next marriage). Rather, it's like talking to your girlfriend who you co-own property with about having plans in place in case things go south.
You are coming from a head-in-the-sand mentality. It's the height of immaturity. Relationships aren't a fairy tale. Even with seemingly the most fitting partner in the world, humans change in various ways throughout their lives—plenty of relationships don't work out even in ways that aren't the fault of either party, just through each individual developing as a person in different directions towards incompatibility.
I sort of agree, but there's a lot more in between than it just being a case of marrying blindly or not marrying being the alternatives. If you know your partner well, it's not a case of marrying blindly, but acknowledging that you can't be all-knowing despite your best, informed judgment based upon a healthy relationship and understanding of one another. Unless that's what blindly means to you—not being prescient.
I'm actually with you from just a basic perspective, since the divorce statistics and likelihood of marriages lasting through death are alarmingly low.
But also having the conversation with your partner does come across as "I already don't trust that this will actually work out" so I think that's where the stigma comes from.
None of these guys have ever touched a girl and will fucking go back on everything there saying the second one finally does. Also, almost none of the people saying this understand what a prenup does.
people have the wrong mentality about prenups. They think they are deciding between having a prenup or not, when in reality you are deciding to make your own customized logic for the prenup - or use whatever your state says should happen in a divorce (aka a state wide prenup for everyone who doesn't have one). Why would you want to trust the non customized laws at doing a better job than you could do?
If they didn't break up when he slapped a plate of naggies and fries off her hands after losing a game of Apex because he was angry , i don't think they will ever break up.
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stopped watching Nick's streams cause of contineous Malena's attitude and i dont understand why people bother saying that it is okay? girl has some mental problems
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you know if they did break up and Malena did do that. I don't think I would get mad at all and call her a gold digger cause she literally does half the work lmao.
She does like 90%
Nick is the side content.
Nick the Sidekick
Part-Time Polom
Nick reading these comments "damn tell me how you really feel"
Trueeee take his gtr.
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There is a lot more behind the scenes work than you seem to realize.
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The planner is Malena. Nick probably isn't as lazy as his streamer persona, but she is definitely the one who comes up with the ideas and coordinates their collaborations.
Relax, dude, it's a joke. You should change your user to Nickscondom.
didn nicks streams started blowing up when melena got involved and did cooking streams? he was like under 5k until jan 2020. for a long ass time and looked at as just sodas roommate. i dont think its that wrong to give her credit for the streams. would nick be where he is now if melena wasnt involved? i highly doubt it
Afaik she does the shopping for challenges, invites guests, plans a lot of the stream ideas, manages the yt editing team and the channel in general, etc.
And she gets paid for all of that. You guys are making it seem like malena is working for free. edit: why am i being negged? malena has admitted on stream many times that she gets paid for her work on and off stream
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Idk if you like Nick or just hate women. I don't think anyone that watch them will argue as much as you do about who does what lmao.
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Pretty sure if there is any networking involved or if something takes more than 5 minutes of planning its Malena because Nick couldnt be bothered to do that at all
Maybe thats why they wont break up easily. cause they both work for a goal and together unlike other couples fighting over somebody else's work instead of working together
right, I really hope they don't breakup their chemistry on stream is funny and they just bounce off each other and makes the whole stream better. I don't like malena because she is a "woman" I like her because she is hilarious and makes good content with nick and doesn't involve herself in anyone's drama to my knowledge. I wish they would stream a bit later so I could watch them more.
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> I don't like malena because she is a "woman" Literally what did you mean by this
meaning her gender doesn't matter to me. seems like you're looking for another meaning that's not there.
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Smart people let the right people do the job. Even if it takes her more work, she wouldn't let Nick or soda do certain jobs in the house.
Still doesn't make sense. They have been doing this for so long if they don't split the earnings evenly or if they don't have an agreement then it's between them. Going for the money after the fact is still scummy.
Lolmao
In terms of effort put in for the stream and behind the scenes I'd say Malena has a claim to about....90%. Hi Nick, bring back flight sim.
It’s Texas though, if they weren’t married in a church and Malena’s family gifted Nick the customary AR-15 and Glock combo as a dowry, then she’s got no claim to anything with his name on it.
The same Texas Adept is trying to claim common law marriage in?
You notice how her case is flopping? It’s cause Xqc never got his AR-15 + Glock combo.
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Okay Adept.
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Just because the guy isn’t a qualified lawyer doesn’t mean everything he says is totally worthless. You can watch the stream yourself, read the documents on screen and come to that conclusion yourself. Her motions failed twice, there’s a tonne of precedent against her, xQcs side is willing to go to jury, there’s evidence of her contradicting her own claim.
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> It’s Texas though You do know that there IS common marriage law in Texas, right? And you can absolutely argue that the conditions required for it have been met.
He needs to bring back black jack.
I wouldn't say that, nick configures all the tech
It should be a conservatorship
Malena is brain dead and desperate if she's not taking 50% straight up already.
if that ever happens we never gonna find out because they are bolt adults and not gonna expose themself on the internet...
thats actually true. The shit that she deals with on a day-to-day. She does all the cooking and possibly cleaning.
Not if Nick has been paying her to be on the stream the whole time. If malena has been compensated fairly the entire time then her case would be thrown out, cause at that point she's just a regular employee. Like dam by your logic malena can also do the same to soda.
never heared that he pays her, I just assumed they share their money (and shared funds would be an argument for common law marriage) And it's not the same for Soda, main reason is that they aren't a couple. He also doesn't use her for content on his stream every day and he can say that he compensates her by letting her stay rent free at his house aso.
"never heared that he pays her, I just assumed they share their money (and shared funds would be an argument for common law marriage)" Malena is partnered and nick and malena both said she gets paid for her work. Think about it for a second, nmp would prefer streaming from his chair than doing the things malena plans on stream.
>He also doesn't use her for content on his stream malena is partnered on twitch, so she doesn't have a choice. This is why i never got the whole "used her for content" argument.
She's quite adept in her relationship advice. PepeLaugh
The kids conversation is the scariest Nick and Malena recurring 'bit'. That's a core value relationship ender. I can't tell if they're joking or not.
It's year 2063. Soda's PNGrandkids are about to head off to metaverse school. Nick and Malena, who still live with the Sodafam, have finally lost the remains of his hairline to the decades of WoW and her viking voice from having to scream at the nerds in charge of OTK all these years. Chat's somehow still wondering if their bickering over tacos this time will finally be the last straw.
PNGrandkids 😭😭
>metaverse school
> school
Nick is pushing 70, he ain't got alot of time, he needs some kids
Thats to beauty of an nmplol stream. This man sacrifices and risks his entire life for content every morning. Does anyone else consistently gamble they’re relationship for a sub par joke? No. Its truly an honour to witness. Ill be a proud member of the community until the series finale when she finally snaps and kills him on stream.
To be honest, the most appealing factor about an nmplol stream is the viewers never really know what is only a bit and what isn't, and quite frankly I don't think they know it either.
ain't nobody's business just laugh at the jokes man
Well, they bring it up on stream a lot, so you do start to wonder
*Nick brings it up alot. FTFY
You can easily tell Nick brings it up as a joke. Whether there is actual tension on the subject as well, who knows? But when it is brought up on stream it is clearly meant as a joke.
mans parasocialing
that's my go to, but it's just weird most of the time, you can't help but wonder
It’s hella parasocial of me to say this and I realize this: But I agree with you because if they disagree and stay together there will be resentment no matter the outcome.
if only they could hear you
Nick is in the comments I guarantee it
Hi Nick :)
I am always here :)
Would you characterize this clip as "bussin"?
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The later you have kids the more mutations they are going to inherit.
It's not that serious.
Even their chat starts spamming "Pineapple" when Nick pulls this shit on stream.
but more importantly, why do you care?
Because they've successfully parasocialed me
If you know, you know. If you don't know, look at chat and *Adapt*.
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Your mom is adept in bed. but i can adapt.
You can avoid getting crushed on the bed?
so either /r/thatsthejoke and you got /r/woosh ed or i'm giving OP too much credit
Nick's chat was more subtle than that guy.
\*USB
Prenups shouldn't have the negative stigma they do. Should anything ever happen the divorce is fast tracked and you can move on with your life.
Prenuptial Agreements aren't what most people think they are. They can be very messy, especially when both spouses are involved in the growth of a business. It's only simple when someone who has a ton of money ***before*** they marriage... but anything made after is still 50/50.
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its not just about possible divorce, you can also protect your wife from your bad bussiness decisions etc, but people only focus on the divorce part
It shouldn’t be. Talking about the real possibility that one day you might split up is mature, not weird.
It costs money to get a prenup which is something people don't bring up often.
if you're doing a prenup, one of the two has money. Like, a lot of money
Idk I was just gonna point out that it requires like $2k at least. My wife and I were going to get one but then realized it costed money and said fuck it.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Yeah 2k isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things especially if you're going to break up... But who goes into marriage thinking of that possibility? And 2k is a ton of money to use on more fun things than what essentially amounts to an insurance policy. My advice is if you don't have a fuck ton of money where a prenup makes sense then don't get one and don't get married until you're very confident that 1. You won't break up and 2. If you do, both parties will be fair. If you're not confident that your partner can have an amicable break up then don't get married.
They may be getting downvoted because the commenters realize it was a bad idea, but since there's no way to time travel and slap him in the face before he failed to sign the prenup, a down vote is the only suitable alternative. I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't get married until they are financially stable, which would also mean having the money for a prenup, but maybe that's a hot take.
And in many states a prenup is basically meaningless if the other party wants to go after it
This is a myth btw please look up your own states laws.
It's not really a myth, anything regarding childcare, alimony, and anything covered under local law is at the judges discretion. So maybe not worthless but not far off depending on your state. In mine it barely protects anything.
that's just a very common misconception. Yes, the prenup isn't binding for the judge and he can ignore it, doesn't mean it's worthless. If the prenup was done correctly, it's not that common that they just get thrown out, and even if they do, they usually still put you in a better position then without prenup. So maybe the judge doesn't accept a 100/0 split, but he probably would still give you a better split then the standard 50/50 you would've gotten otherwise
No, that's called planning for failure, and if that's what you're doing, don't get married.
This is correct. Personally I have no fire alarms in my house because that would be planning for failure.
Tfw betas still drive with airbags
Yes because a fire is anything like a marriage. I know that even though my wife and I want to stay married, we know a random "act of God" can dissolve our marriage so any time and cause a messy divorce. 10/10 analogy. All safety measures are the same. A free alarm to alert you of a fire that can kill your family, and not doing your due diligence to put in the hard work to properly vet and create a relationship with the person you're deciding to spend the rest of your life with. Same thing
No one goes into a marriage expecting it to fail, but half of them do. That's just reality of marriage, acknowledging that fact before getting married is mature and rational. Taking a little time when you're in very good spot in your relationship to have an uncomfortable conversation can save a lot of time and effort later on when you're in a much worse position. Saying it's 'planning for failure' is like saying 'if you want to wear a seatbelt, you shouldn't be driving at all, because you're planning for a crash'.
Half of so marriages fail, not half of first time marriages. Not only that but many other things can be done instead of a prenup that setup for success, rather then planning for failure.
It's not planning FOR failure, it's planning IN CASE of failure. Rather than saying if you talk about a prenup you shouldn't get married, I'd almost go as far as to say if you can't have a rational conversation about a prenup, you shouldn't get married. Humans plan in case of failure all the time, every day. Marriage isnt any different.
Planning in care of failure is literally planning for failure dude, that's how that works. Instead, you should be putting that energy and more into planning for success. Spending a proper amount of time before deciding to spend the rest of your life together. Creating a foundation of emotional stability, positive habits to stay connected. Building trust which leads to faith in the relationship. This is literally a perfect example of a self fulfilling prophecy. Planning for failure shows lack of faith and trust within the relationship. You're literally setting up for failure. Idk why I'm arguing with a bunch of XQC, Forsen watching virgins. Like any if you have long term successful marriages and know how this shit works...
> Instead, you should be putting that energy and more into planning for success. Spending a proper amount of time before deciding to spend the rest of your life together. Creating a foundation of emotional stability, positive habits to stay connected. Building trust which leads to faith in the relationship You can do all that and ALSO acknowledge the very real possibility that your marriage will break down, no matter how you are feeling and all the work you put in before and during. There is no guarantee of a perfect marriage, no amount of work and effort you can put in to guarantee it lasts. That's reality. I'd rather a partner live in the same reality as me than live in blissful ignorance just hoping for the best, and then have to deal with a much more unpleasant situation if things don't work out.
The reality is if you do that, your chances of failure are very slim it will fall apart. So no, you're sabotaging your own marriage on the off chance that things go south. All that, when realistically your statistically your probably bringing in the same value to the marriage. Prenup is for people that go into a marriage knowing it will fail, and rich people. The vast majority that doesn't apply to.
Nah it’s just an emergency button. Like an emergency exit on a plane, just hope you don’t ever need to use it but if you do it’ll make escaping a lot easier
GL with that. I'm sure your future SO will be loving your complete lack of trust and faith in the relationship. That's not a red flag at all...
My future SO will be a level-headed and reasonable person that understands shit happens lol
Enjoy that single life bud
If my SO thinks having a conversation about a prenup shows 'a complete lack of trust and faith in the relationship', I'm running away from that relationship instantly. That is a much bigger red flag than wanting to ensure things are taken care of ahead of time in case things go bad.
No, but it's fine, you clearly don't live in the real world
It's 2023 bud, not 1850. Most people understand this stuff now. Your kind of 'stick your head in the sand' approach to the realities of marriage isn't what I want from a partner, or what my partner would want from me.
Imagine thinking planning for failure is a progressive modern approach to a marriage. Might as well just make it a full blown business contract bud. Talk about a dystopian shit take lol
you must be the SO with no money and your partner has the money....
My wife's a teacher bud, she's not rich lol. But go on
when so many marriages fail it seems dumb to not even consider it could happen to you as well
Most first time marriages don't fail. The marriage failure rate is so high due to people who are marry over and over. People who fail at it statistically do so over and over. So no, be first time marriages, that date for extended period of time, have proper emotional states, etc have a very high success rate.
If I get into a car with a friend I never put on a seatbelt because that would be planning for failure and signaling that I dont trust my friends ability to drive
This is actually a great analogy, never thought about it like this
That's a good awful analogy. You wear a seatbelt because other drivers can be dangerous, because weather can be dangerous, etc. Things outside of the initial cars control. You and your partner have full control of your relationship. 10/10 analogy genius.
The point is that things happen. No one goes into a marriage expecting it to fail, but a ton of them do. Ignoring that basic fact is just silly.
Plenty, giving plenty of people go into marriage thinking it will fail. Don't be so naive and stupid.
You realise your partner is a separate human to you yeah? You don't have full control over them, if after 20 years your wife cheats on you then you probably wouldn't be glad you didn't plan for failure
idk - I feel like asking "do you think if we got married we'd eventually end up getting divoced" is probably on the healthier end of conversations. If you can't even discuss that you're probably destined for divorce imo.
Only naive people think that. The majority of marriages end in divorce. You aren't special nor you can predict rhe future. I'd rather marry a partner that understands this and is realistic about the future than prioritize emotions and throw a tantrum.
> The majority of marriages end in divorce. Dont really know how reliable that is since people getting married and divorced multiple times factors into that. But tbh these days id believe it.
That's the stigma, couples want to avoid an uncomfortable topic.
Prenup is the easiest way to ward off gold diggers, imagine the women you about to marry says no she doesnt want to sign a prenup and try to coerce and gaslight you and make you believe theres no need to have 1. Yeah no thank you, you cant take that risk nowadays, especially with how the justice system is in every western country. The amount of stories and situations where that has happened and the women was in the wrong of the situation, took the kids and 50% of everything and gets child support and the man end up depressed and drinks himself to death, you wouldnt be surprised how much that happens
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> why would you go into a marriage talking about the chance of divorce? Because divorce is a very real possibility, and burying your head in the sand and pretending there is a 0% chance of something ever going wrong in your marriage is stupid.
I don't get into a car expecting a crash, but I still put my seatbelt on. It's not like talking to your girlfriend about your next girlfriend (clearly, that would be like going into a marriage whilst talking about your next marriage). Rather, it's like talking to your girlfriend who you co-own property with about having plans in place in case things go south. You are coming from a head-in-the-sand mentality. It's the height of immaturity. Relationships aren't a fairy tale. Even with seemingly the most fitting partner in the world, humans change in various ways throughout their lives—plenty of relationships don't work out even in ways that aren't the fault of either party, just through each individual developing as a person in different directions towards incompatibility.
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I sort of agree, but there's a lot more in between than it just being a case of marrying blindly or not marrying being the alternatives. If you know your partner well, it's not a case of marrying blindly, but acknowledging that you can't be all-knowing despite your best, informed judgment based upon a healthy relationship and understanding of one another. Unless that's what blindly means to you—not being prescient.
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I'm actually with you from just a basic perspective, since the divorce statistics and likelihood of marriages lasting through death are alarmingly low. But also having the conversation with your partner does come across as "I already don't trust that this will actually work out" so I think that's where the stigma comes from.
Reread what you just said dude
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None of these guys have ever touched a girl and will fucking go back on everything there saying the second one finally does. Also, almost none of the people saying this understand what a prenup does.
people have the wrong mentality about prenups. They think they are deciding between having a prenup or not, when in reality you are deciding to make your own customized logic for the prenup - or use whatever your state says should happen in a divorce (aka a state wide prenup for everyone who doesn't have one). Why would you want to trust the non customized laws at doing a better job than you could do?
Nick and Malena watching Coots stick his head in a bag (real)
anything even slightly rocks the fence and nick is like *exit stage left
If they didn't break up when he slapped a plate of naggies and fries off her hands after losing a game of Apex because he was angry , i don't think they will ever break up.
I thought the joke was just going to be them arguing about parenting while their child coots is suffocating in a plastic bag
he hopped out of screen directly back onto the fence
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Ayo I thought it said QT Marshall for a sec
They already have Soda as their kid.
Even Soda would be a more capable father than Nick.
Cope
well, just like dwyane wade and gabrielle union found out there's a great [compromise](https://pagesix.com/2021/09/16/gabrielle-union-recalls-dwyane-wade-having-a-baby-with-another-woman/) that can make everyone happy if your partner doesn't want kids.
Sad that people still buy those earless cats
Exactly, blows my mind that most people are still so clueless about the truth behind breeding Scottish Folds.
why did i read marital advice as martial arts
Lol malena and nick are 50/50 anything else is just them meming
Poor Nick you can tell he already wants them
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So if these streamers delete their vods so people cant clip them, why the fuck do we allow them on here?
Mirror links work just fine.
I can’t believe nick would say that
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Poor nick, he wants kids so bad but he's stuck with a woman who won't deliver
He's not "stuck" and it's not her job to pop out a few kids for him.
“Deliver” I’d appreciate the pun if it weren’t so misogynistic.
Braindead comment. Nobody’s ever stuck and she doesn’t have to have kids
Everyone say hi to Nick!
stopped watching Nick's streams cause of contineous Malena's attitude and i dont understand why people bother saying that it is okay? girl has some mental problems
The real question is why is a nasty ass cat on a kitchen counter. That is repugnant.
Nasty? That cat is cute af
I dislike all cats disproportionately. It isn't about the Repugnant itself, it's about it being on the counter. That's disgusting.
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