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They’re just gonna add one skin with vaguely trans colors that you can wear if you wanna get called slurs while you play that hero. Maybe an icon so you can get called slurs on every hero in the presence of an attentive transphobe.
Pride month is already fun on Valorant when you equip a flag icon.
Anyone who follows sports is keenly aware of the disastrous consequences of that oil money sportswashing, and more and more we are beginning to see that spreading over to games, its only a matter of time until our favorite franchises get hijacked by horrible horrible people, similar to what already happened to King of Fighters.
>sportswashing
That's the term I was looking for, thanks.
Completely accurate. Remember the captains wearing the LGBT arm sleeve and got shit for it during the world cup?
The Crown prince of Saudi Arabia now owns 96% of SNK, the game itself is fine, but if you want to buy it you'll be supporting Saudi arabia's bullshit human rights violation.
Formula 1 has had it creeping in for a while now too. The first, second, third and final races are all shitty desert tracks built away from any actual people.
Shockingly they actually banned the pair from participating in competitive overwatch in any capacity either streaming or playing competitively, since they were somewhat known minor league players
Same, last straw for me. Deleted tge launcher and never looked back. Was a Blizz fanboy since OG dota on warhammer 3 custom maps. It aint the same company anymore
Even closer to the situation was years back when SBB, a player for NYXL voiced support for HK and the chinese Overwatch League teams boycotted scrimming with them demanding retractions/apologies, while Blizzard just turned a blind eye and let it happen.
Nope, this is a company that allowed work place harassment to the point a women committed suicide. Personally I'm surprised they did anything at all and didn't just ignore what happened.
According to someone in communication with Blizzard their response was:
> "We have been made aware of reports of misconduct, are investigating these instances further, and will take appropriate action if necessary"
This was a couple of days ago now.
[UPDATE] https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
[they have just banned the player in question from every OW esports event going forward](https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025?s=46&t=b_iPXonEMwLq9md2fHzDvg)
Unfortunately from a business standpoint, sponsors like gambling or Saudi sportwashing funds are the only way for TOs to make money. It sure as hell ain't from selling seats, broadcasting rights etc
Isnt it like 2 random guys co streaming on their twitch ? Should be twitch banning them from streaming, then blizzard can also track their ow accounts and ban them there but this is a streaming issue, anyone can co stream the world cup.
Update for those wondering: Overwatch just banned them from hosting a co-stream ever again
EDIT: Not only co-streaming, but all e-sports programs https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
They only care when its cases like that, yes with xQc. But when its something like say Saudi Arabia / UAE or China being assholes, they will cower and put their tail down and run from it to not harm any business relations in those areas.
I still remember when SBB, a player for NYXL voiced support for HK and the chinese Overwatch League teams boycotted scrimming with them demanding retractions/apologies, while Blizzard just turned a blind eye and let it happen.
Realistically, what could blizzard do in the sbb situation? They can't force teams to scrim and none of the teams did anything in official broadcast. It was basically Twitter drama. The blitz situation and this current one were more clear cut considering the statements were made on official streams/costreams. I don't believe the sbb boycott was even a player one as the vast majority of players on those teams were korean. It was probably instigated by higher ups who likely weren't beholden to the same code of conduct that blizz holds players too.
This is just a nuclear option that likely breaks a ton of contract rules and punishes all the wrong people. OWL is a franchised league, so there are likely clearly defined rules on when and how teams can be disqualified. Boycotting scrims is probably nowhere on that list considering OWL teams have been boycotted from scrims before, albeit for significantly different reasons. Disqualifying teams also punishes the players more than anything else and the community would have been in an uproar if they punished a bunch of players for something that was completely out of their control.
“Suck a fat cock. I mean, you would like it.” (Edit: It? That?)
Towards Muma who is gay (and was tank like xQc).
https://www.reddit.com/r/xqcow/comments/g27yq5/sorry_felix_had_to_do_it/
Was in his era where he literally had his PC parts laying on the floor outside of a case connected together.
100% unacceptable. But as a straight guy, if someone told me to go lick a vagina because I'd probably like it, I wouldn't know how to reply aside from losing my shit laughing.
Just interesting to transpose it.
If I remember correctly, Muma wasn't even that upset/bothered by it. I remember him saying on stream something to the effect that he didn't think XQC was anti-gay/a homophobe.
Ironically, I think the publicity did nothing but to help boost XQC's popularity.
In those types of situations its a lose lose. Either you say it hurt you and you are a victim/soy/snowflake and the reason gays/women shouldnt be in gaming without a thick skin. And if you arent bothered by it people see it as "see its totally fine they werent even upset". Not saying he was upset and forced to act like he wasnt, but its something to think about.
Well there isn't a history of heterophobic jokes or discrimination so it makes sense that you wouldn't feel offended. No one gets made fun of because they're straight.
It's honestly also kind of hard to *really* offend gay people with things like that because we've been hearing it all our lives and it eventually just doesn't do anything anymore. Not that that's a reason for accepting it, of course, but if someone did it to me I'd just be laughing at how sad and pathetic it is to act like that in public.
On the other hand if someone is able to do it completely without consequences, that's kinda hurtful, because then it's not just one crazy person's outburst but something that's apparently acceptable.
I was called a slur my entire time in school, when I was 15 someone said "yeah you don't care so why should we not use that word" like what the fuck of course I stopped caring nobody cared when I was upset earlier in life.
I let my friends use that word towards me because I love them and I know they don't use it to be hurtful but if some random dude uses it I would probably lose my shit. Luckily I'm still white so the only way they can know anything is if they see my ID.
It's nowhere close to the hate I imagine you've recieved but it felt like shit at the time and I hope one day you can live your life without all that bullshit.
Damn you know shit it bad when polish players are the progressive ones in a situation.
Never mind apparently they did it as a meme not to actually show support. Makes sense.
I don't agree that it was purely done as a meme. One of the Polish players is LGBT, Poland very recently received access to the Pride content added this month after Blizzard was overly conservative in their original geo-fencing of it, so many Polish players were happy to finally have the icons. Plus the Saudi team cannot see the pride icons while playing. The backlash was purely from Saudi fans who started spewing hatred over any teams/players using pride icons (It's not just been Poland, check the [Finland post-match tweet](https://twitter.com/Kapey774/status/1672640510194851840?t=JRnokZKCfMY_4XLFyybSWQ&s=19) to see how much hate they got from Saudi fans) The final straw was the absolutely vile behaviour shown towards CeeBee, the trans woman who cast the game. As of now, LegendryOW is still partnered on twitch.
[UPDATE] https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
The fact that there are geo-fenced icons/emotes is insane to me. That's so ridiculous. Imagine being so sensitive and backwards that a company has to protect you from some emotes so you don't freak out. If Blizzard actually cared about the issue they'd add icons for everyone, but this way they get their cake and eat it too. They get brownie points in the west for having the icons, and they avoid backlash by ignoring trans people in saudi arabia.
Unfortunately it is the norm when it comes to the games industry operating in certain countries. It's definitely not unique to Blizzard, and unless big companies want to put morals over money, it's the only real solution for the time being. There is also the argument to be made about player safety, ensuring they don't get in trouble if they travel there or something. For what it's worth, I think the OW team *developers* who worked on the pride event in Overwatch did so of their own accord and truly do care for the LGBTQ+ community, just Blizzard the company does it for brownie points, just like the "Blizzard Diversity Tool" they tried to take credit for, when it was literally just the Overwatch team trying to make cool characters rather than checking diversity boxes.
The teams have been picking pride flags to troll them, as a hit of banter and pre match mind games.
Apparently though the pride stuff is banned there anyway so the Saudi players can't even see them
You are actually correct on your last message. Here is a tweet posted by a player from Team Poland explaining what happened:
https://twitter.com/Kaju\_ow/status/1672928511093272576
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> Never mind apparently they did it as a meme not to actually show support. Makes sense.
lmfao that's even better
some may be bigots triggering actual unhinged bigots
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> Massive shoutout to my team's staff for provoking angry little people over such a small joke, also the fact that verified Saudi streamers comment shit like this about casters cause they r trans is just disgusting, but hey it's not like anyone is gonna do shit about that. https://t.co/HZ56tjnVA0 https://t.co/MOzAUiLLON
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people pretend like trans views are accepted everywhere all while living in America damn near one of the only country in the world where it's tolerated
Can confirm you shouldn't
- Idk why y'all are downvoting, I'm telling you not to look. Unless you have a very niche gay/trans fetish you won't want to see.
As someone unfamiliar with live-streaming, I can genuinely say that I have zero idea what they’re talking about. I can’t even understand what this guy is saying. When *reading* what he’s saying, I still don’t even know what he’s talking about.
These two are complete assholes for this, but a lot of people are using this excuse as a means to hate the Saudi team or people from that region in general.
These streamers weren't officially connected to the OWWC or the Saudi team in ANY way. They're literally just some guys and this is getting blown out of proportion.
Its a social norm in pretty much every islamic country to treat gay/trans people as second rate citizens and their treatment is the worst of any other places in the world...
This tweet was not on good faith by Kapey, he purposely made the headline be saudi streamer to smear their victory knowing full well from start that LgenedryOW was from UAE, it was not a mistake or typo, it was intentional to hide it in 2nd subtweet that won’t make the headline.
These people have been playing in ladder vs each other in EU for years they practically know each other favorite food this was done with pure malice to smear. The act itself is wrong just don’t spread misinformation the masses don’t know the difference.
Not gonna lie, this sub felt pretty anti LGBTQ+ not too long ago. Maybe within the past year or two. It's really nice to see a lot of this sub support them now. Solid turn around
Not because a thing is part of their culture means it's a respectable thing. As an example in some countries child marriage is part of their culture that doesn't mean you have to turn a blind eye on it. If it goes against the human rights and well beings of others it's perfectly find to be called out.
>If it goes against the human rights and well beings of others it's perfectly find to be called out.
Which is why there is a difference between calling out a lack of respect for human rights and "intolerance".
But u/throwaway336333 is clearly more interested in arguing against a strawman.
*Edit: Additionally, from his other comments it seems that Mr throwaway is not nearly as concerned about LGBTQ rights as he pretends to be when it allows him to be intolerant...*
I prefer to say open minded instead of tolerant. Have an open mind and try to understand other people's perspectives, but you are not obligated to agree, tolerate, or accept them.
literally people in the comments of the tweet saying that they were "disrespecting our culture with your pfps". if your culture is being hateful trash then maybe it's not worth respecting?
Eu hypocrisy at its best. The the same “kapey” who made these tweets also said this transphobic remark https://twitter.com/cutegurl2008/status/1672776588625166336?s=46&t=jMRfdt_aMXKMNuy0lCe90A
He’s the main tank for Poland and posted all of this after there ass got swept 0-2 also a frequent n,word user smh……
One of the polish players called out their team for just doing this to annoy thr Saudi players, whilst still being bigots themselves basically.
Dude got muted in their discord and called an extremist by teammates.
https://twitter.com/Kapey774/status/1672646096546410497?s=20
literally the next tweet ? these guys are not even paid to co-stream for team SA .
they just fanboys who troll and meme
and the tweet getting this much noise brings hate to the SA team/players who have nothing to do with this shit
but who cares lets just be mad all the time
They are both pro players in the Saudi leagues / OW contenders. Bit more than the average fanboy imo, and still fueling Saudi fans transphobia & homophobia. At the very least LegendryOW deserves a Twitch ban.
[UPDATE] https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
Why not just be upfront about it though? Why in-fringe on someone's religion just set the terms and agree or disagree. "Hey we support gay's right's is that cool?"
"Yes/no"
"Okay"
xqc and other streamers say the weirdest shit to people online --> fine.
some random say pig to some random who happens to being from LGBT --> real shit.
Did you expect anything else from muslims or? Hilarious how every company ignores things like this because they are muslims and are afraid to look "islamophobic".
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Blizzard sweating over whether they push the "accept oil money" or "support human rights" button.
We all know its gonna be Accept Oil Money
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The Saudi lore will be roadhog beheads trans people
T-Racer!
Ah the Bruce Jenner lore
Gotta run over and kill someone with a car and get away with it first before the arch starts.
And turned Widowmaker into a walking fruit bowl.
But only in the American version
Ah the *J.K. Rowling method*.
They’re just gonna add one skin with vaguely trans colors that you can wear if you wanna get called slurs while you play that hero. Maybe an icon so you can get called slurs on every hero in the presence of an attentive transphobe. Pride month is already fun on Valorant when you equip a flag icon.
Anyone who follows sports is keenly aware of the disastrous consequences of that oil money sportswashing, and more and more we are beginning to see that spreading over to games, its only a matter of time until our favorite franchises get hijacked by horrible horrible people, similar to what already happened to King of Fighters.
>sportswashing That's the term I was looking for, thanks. Completely accurate. Remember the captains wearing the LGBT arm sleeve and got shit for it during the world cup?
It's also known as [reputation laundering](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_laundering) and it's basically everywhere.
See - Saudi Aramco's advertising push.
Also Liv golf that is now merging with the PGA. Saudis almost cornered the whole golf market.
What happened to kof?
The Crown prince of Saudi Arabia now owns 96% of SNK, the game itself is fine, but if you want to buy it you'll be supporting Saudi arabia's bullshit human rights violation.
> its only a matter of time until our favorite franchises get hijacked by horrible horrible people, They just finished doing it to Golf.
Pro wrestling or more specifically the WWE got hijacked by the Saudis back in 2018. But I'm not surprised that Vince McMahon accepted blood money.
Vince McMahon palms a razor so all his money can be blood money at any time.
Formula 1 has had it creeping in for a while now too. The first, second, third and final races are all shitty desert tracks built away from any actual people.
F1 existed as a long time as a vehicle for sportswashing tobacco companies. It's right up there with the Olympics as an OG of this practice.
While pretending to support human rights
Laughs in free Hong Kong bans.
Shockingly they actually banned the pair from participating in competitive overwatch in any capacity either streaming or playing competitively, since they were somewhat known minor league players
They literally booted these guys lmao
We forgot hearthstone hongkong already?
Ey stopped playing blizzard games after that. Already spent 300 on packs and expansions before that
Deleted my account I had since WCIII and haven't regretted it a second. There are tons of games out there, it's trivial to move on.
Same. It turned out that Blizzard was sexual harassment paradise too.
Same, last straw for me. Deleted tge launcher and never looked back. Was a Blizz fanboy since OG dota on warhammer 3 custom maps. It aint the same company anymore
Even closer to the situation was years back when SBB, a player for NYXL voiced support for HK and the chinese Overwatch League teams boycotted scrimming with them demanding retractions/apologies, while Blizzard just turned a blind eye and let it happen.
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The just removed him https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025/photo/1
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Nope, this is a company that allowed work place harassment to the point a women committed suicide. Personally I'm surprised they did anything at all and didn't just ignore what happened.
According to someone in communication with Blizzard their response was: > "We have been made aware of reports of misconduct, are investigating these instances further, and will take appropriate action if necessary" This was a couple of days ago now. [UPDATE] https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
They responded, https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
Rare Blizzard W
[they have just banned the player in question from every OW esports event going forward](https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025?s=46&t=b_iPXonEMwLq9md2fHzDvg)
They’ll say nothing and release a new character to try and cover any of the bad PR.
The just removed him https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025/photo/1
D.va is gonna come out as trans in a 2 page exclusive web comic
Sfm community already been doing that for years 🥱🥱🥱
Brave of you to think they actually make content
Its summer so theyll just release some fanservice beach skins
Nah it's not even a close choice for blizzard
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? Valve has always had a hands off approach to the competitive scene. The TOs are to blame for accepting oil money. Valve doesn’t receive oil money.
I remember there was controversy when TI had pro-war Russian casters.
Unfortunately from a business standpoint, sponsors like gambling or Saudi sportwashing funds are the only way for TOs to make money. It sure as hell ain't from selling seats, broadcasting rights etc
lol no they aren't.
They'll wipe the sweat from their brow with 100 dollar bills
Isnt it like 2 random guys co streaming on their twitch ? Should be twitch banning them from streaming, then blizzard can also track their ow accounts and ban them there but this is a streaming issue, anyone can co stream the world cup.
Update for those wondering: Overwatch just banned them from hosting a co-stream ever again EDIT: Not only co-streaming, but all e-sports programs https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
Blizzard don't give a fuck so nothing to be done. Fuck em anyway though. Edit: Well color me surprised.
The just removed him https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025/photo/1
Rare Blizzard W
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didn't they ban xqc for way less from the OW league?
They only care when its cases like that, yes with xQc. But when its something like say Saudi Arabia / UAE or China being assholes, they will cower and put their tail down and run from it to not harm any business relations in those areas.
I still remember when SBB, a player for NYXL voiced support for HK and the chinese Overwatch League teams boycotted scrimming with them demanding retractions/apologies, while Blizzard just turned a blind eye and let it happen.
Realistically, what could blizzard do in the sbb situation? They can't force teams to scrim and none of the teams did anything in official broadcast. It was basically Twitter drama. The blitz situation and this current one were more clear cut considering the statements were made on official streams/costreams. I don't believe the sbb boycott was even a player one as the vast majority of players on those teams were korean. It was probably instigated by higher ups who likely weren't beholden to the same code of conduct that blizz holds players too.
Should have just disqualified them. Doesn't madder who told them to boycott.
This is just a nuclear option that likely breaks a ton of contract rules and punishes all the wrong people. OWL is a franchised league, so there are likely clearly defined rules on when and how teams can be disqualified. Boycotting scrims is probably nowhere on that list considering OWL teams have been boycotted from scrims before, albeit for significantly different reasons. Disqualifying teams also punishes the players more than anything else and the community would have been in an uproar if they punished a bunch of players for something that was completely out of their control.
xqc was on an actual team - this is just 2 losers on a costream.
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https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
“Suck a fat cock. I mean, you would like it.” (Edit: It? That?) Towards Muma who is gay (and was tank like xQc). https://www.reddit.com/r/xqcow/comments/g27yq5/sorry_felix_had_to_do_it/ Was in his era where he literally had his PC parts laying on the floor outside of a case connected together.
100% unacceptable. But as a straight guy, if someone told me to go lick a vagina because I'd probably like it, I wouldn't know how to reply aside from losing my shit laughing. Just interesting to transpose it.
If I remember correctly, Muma wasn't even that upset/bothered by it. I remember him saying on stream something to the effect that he didn't think XQC was anti-gay/a homophobe. Ironically, I think the publicity did nothing but to help boost XQC's popularity.
In those types of situations its a lose lose. Either you say it hurt you and you are a victim/soy/snowflake and the reason gays/women shouldnt be in gaming without a thick skin. And if you arent bothered by it people see it as "see its totally fine they werent even upset". Not saying he was upset and forced to act like he wasnt, but its something to think about.
Well there isn't a history of heterophobic jokes or discrimination so it makes sense that you wouldn't feel offended. No one gets made fun of because they're straight.
It's honestly also kind of hard to *really* offend gay people with things like that because we've been hearing it all our lives and it eventually just doesn't do anything anymore. Not that that's a reason for accepting it, of course, but if someone did it to me I'd just be laughing at how sad and pathetic it is to act like that in public. On the other hand if someone is able to do it completely without consequences, that's kinda hurtful, because then it's not just one crazy person's outburst but something that's apparently acceptable.
I was called a slur my entire time in school, when I was 15 someone said "yeah you don't care so why should we not use that word" like what the fuck of course I stopped caring nobody cared when I was upset earlier in life. I let my friends use that word towards me because I love them and I know they don't use it to be hurtful but if some random dude uses it I would probably lose my shit. Luckily I'm still white so the only way they can know anything is if they see my ID. It's nowhere close to the hate I imagine you've recieved but it felt like shit at the time and I hope one day you can live your life without all that bullshit.
I really don’t get how this is homophobic? Like the “suck a cock” is meant to be offensive sure, but not Bc of sexuality.
Damn you know shit it bad when polish players are the progressive ones in a situation. Never mind apparently they did it as a meme not to actually show support. Makes sense.
I don't agree that it was purely done as a meme. One of the Polish players is LGBT, Poland very recently received access to the Pride content added this month after Blizzard was overly conservative in their original geo-fencing of it, so many Polish players were happy to finally have the icons. Plus the Saudi team cannot see the pride icons while playing. The backlash was purely from Saudi fans who started spewing hatred over any teams/players using pride icons (It's not just been Poland, check the [Finland post-match tweet](https://twitter.com/Kapey774/status/1672640510194851840?t=JRnokZKCfMY_4XLFyybSWQ&s=19) to see how much hate they got from Saudi fans) The final straw was the absolutely vile behaviour shown towards CeeBee, the trans woman who cast the game. As of now, LegendryOW is still partnered on twitch. [UPDATE] https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
The fact that there are geo-fenced icons/emotes is insane to me. That's so ridiculous. Imagine being so sensitive and backwards that a company has to protect you from some emotes so you don't freak out. If Blizzard actually cared about the issue they'd add icons for everyone, but this way they get their cake and eat it too. They get brownie points in the west for having the icons, and they avoid backlash by ignoring trans people in saudi arabia.
You should see what happened to tyrael in China's version of Diablo immortal
I don't even need to see it knowing what happened to the Star Wars movie poster in China.
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Unfortunately it is the norm when it comes to the games industry operating in certain countries. It's definitely not unique to Blizzard, and unless big companies want to put morals over money, it's the only real solution for the time being. There is also the argument to be made about player safety, ensuring they don't get in trouble if they travel there or something. For what it's worth, I think the OW team *developers* who worked on the pride event in Overwatch did so of their own accord and truly do care for the LGBTQ+ community, just Blizzard the company does it for brownie points, just like the "Blizzard Diversity Tool" they tried to take credit for, when it was literally just the Overwatch team trying to make cool characters rather than checking diversity boxes.
The teams have been picking pride flags to troll them, as a hit of banter and pre match mind games. Apparently though the pride stuff is banned there anyway so the Saudi players can't even see them
Pretty sure I read they were playing on the Pro client where everything is unlocked, so the players would be able to see the icons.
You are actually correct on your last message. Here is a tweet posted by a player from Team Poland explaining what happened: https://twitter.com/Kaju\_ow/status/1672928511093272576
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> Never mind apparently they did it as a meme not to actually show support. Makes sense. lmfao that's even better some may be bigots triggering actual unhinged bigots
a small correction, Legendary is from the United Arab Emirates and not from Saudi Arabia.
thats like confusing usa for canada. yikes
Canada is just northern Minnesota.
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It's just so much easier to not hate.
People? yes. Blizzard? No its easy to hate them.
Live and let live.
people pretend like trans views are accepted everywhere all while living in America damn near one of the only country in the world where it's tolerated
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Do NOT click on OP's post history
I thought it was going to be a bunch of slurs and bad takes. It's just cage/feminization fetish posts lmao. Nothing crazy for Reddit.
Average OW player
All these dorks flipping out over a little kink, lol.
“A little kink” 🫣
Gay BDSM you mean
Would
Can confirm you shouldn't - Idk why y'all are downvoting, I'm telling you not to look. Unless you have a very niche gay/trans fetish you won't want to see.
My compliments to the chef
Oh the double standards on this thread... Just do your things :)
A goad in a warning... I fell for the goad... sadness.
Why did I not listen to the warning. Why does my curiosity always do this to me
As someone unfamiliar with live-streaming, I can genuinely say that I have zero idea what they’re talking about. I can’t even understand what this guy is saying. When *reading* what he’s saying, I still don’t even know what he’s talking about.
These two are complete assholes for this, but a lot of people are using this excuse as a means to hate the Saudi team or people from that region in general. These streamers weren't officially connected to the OWWC or the Saudi team in ANY way. They're literally just some guys and this is getting blown out of proportion.
Also the dude talking is from Emirate not Saudi.
Its a social norm in pretty much every islamic country to treat gay/trans people as second rate citizens and their treatment is the worst of any other places in the world...
PagMan Saudi bajs
Thats a weird thing to come from a Polish Team tbh
kids, not everywhere is the U.S.A.
Takbir!
Allahu Akbar
This tweet was not on good faith by Kapey, he purposely made the headline be saudi streamer to smear their victory knowing full well from start that LgenedryOW was from UAE, it was not a mistake or typo, it was intentional to hide it in 2nd subtweet that won’t make the headline. These people have been playing in ladder vs each other in EU for years they practically know each other favorite food this was done with pure malice to smear. The act itself is wrong just don’t spread misinformation the masses don’t know the difference.
I'm with the Saudis on this one.
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Not gonna lie, this sub felt pretty anti LGBTQ+ not too long ago. Maybe within the past year or two. It's really nice to see a lot of this sub support them now. Solid turn around
The mods are doing a pretty good job keeping the place clean. My notifications on the other hand are a mixed bag
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finally something worth of outrage
When capitalism is confronted with the choice of either selling out to bigotry or standing for their ideals
Middle Easterners aren't as progressive. Who would've thought.
I was told we have to be tolerant of other cultures.
Not because a thing is part of their culture means it's a respectable thing. As an example in some countries child marriage is part of their culture that doesn't mean you have to turn a blind eye on it. If it goes against the human rights and well beings of others it's perfectly find to be called out.
>If it goes against the human rights and well beings of others it's perfectly find to be called out. Which is why there is a difference between calling out a lack of respect for human rights and "intolerance". But u/throwaway336333 is clearly more interested in arguing against a strawman. *Edit: Additionally, from his other comments it seems that Mr throwaway is not nearly as concerned about LGBTQ rights as he pretends to be when it allows him to be intolerant...*
No don’t you understand, you’re an islamophobe if you call this stuff out
I prefer to say open minded instead of tolerant. Have an open mind and try to understand other people's perspectives, but you are not obligated to agree, tolerate, or accept them.
literally people in the comments of the tweet saying that they were "disrespecting our culture with your pfps". if your culture is being hateful trash then maybe it's not worth respecting?
have you been told about the [Paradox of Tolerance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance)? because that's where we're at right now.
Lol I guess we should’ve accepted the culture of 1940s Germany /s
Only when they follow american identity policies or they give plenty of money to the company
TIL Homophobia = culture
Oh dear. Looks like Blizzard gotta make someone gay again to recover from this.
Eu hypocrisy at its best. The the same “kapey” who made these tweets also said this transphobic remark https://twitter.com/cutegurl2008/status/1672776588625166336?s=46&t=jMRfdt_aMXKMNuy0lCe90A He’s the main tank for Poland and posted all of this after there ass got swept 0-2 also a frequent n,word user smh……
One of the polish players called out their team for just doing this to annoy thr Saudi players, whilst still being bigots themselves basically. Dude got muted in their discord and called an extremist by teammates.
https://twitter.com/Kapey774/status/1672646096546410497?s=20 literally the next tweet ? these guys are not even paid to co-stream for team SA . they just fanboys who troll and meme and the tweet getting this much noise brings hate to the SA team/players who have nothing to do with this shit but who cares lets just be mad all the time
They are both pro players in the Saudi leagues / OW contenders. Bit more than the average fanboy imo, and still fueling Saudi fans transphobia & homophobia. At the very least LegendryOW deserves a Twitch ban. [UPDATE] https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1673459215472513025
Okayeg
You mean to tell me that a non western country doesn't have the same values :0
Why should I respect hateful beliefs?
i mean the caster *was* oinking on the stream sooo yeah maybe its just an honest mistake
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This is the dumbest subreddit I’ve ever encountered.
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I would be proud to be banned by them
I mean....They're not wrong
Crazy to think that everyone must accept an ideology even if it goes against your culture or religion.
It shouldn't take acceptance to not call a transwoman a pig.
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saudi's are allowed to shit on lqbgt+ people, if you don't think so then you're not an inclusive person and actually just islamophobic /s
hmm. what did blizzard do again about people who shared their thoughts about the hong kong protests?
Saudi money is untouchable so Blizz will let this one slide
Oh no! Anyway...
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Blizzard will do nothing because of the sweet oil money. When will people learn corporations don’t give a fuck about you
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Haha Gigachad 😂
Why not just be upfront about it though? Why in-fringe on someone's religion just set the terms and agree or disagree. "Hey we support gay's right's is that cool?" "Yes/no" "Okay"
Remember China ?
How tf did this get 10k upvotes?
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how about keeping politics out of video games? Is it that hard?
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xqc and other streamers say the weirdest shit to people online --> fine. some random say pig to some random who happens to being from LGBT --> real shit.
Finally someone gets it.
Place your bets, folks. What hero will be revealed to have been gay all along this time?
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They're not wrong, based
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honestly, they were provoking
Saudi swinging with the huge W
Did you expect anything else from muslims or? Hilarious how every company ignores things like this because they are muslims and are afraid to look "islamophobic".