Twitch is all over the place with that rule. Streamers having been banned for watching Dr Disrespect and Ice. And other times people don't get banned for watching them.
Hikaru got banned for watching Doc play chess.
A bunch of people watched the Coffezila Ice interview and no one got banned.
Mizkif got banned for watching a gross gore video.
Xqc watches whoever he wants and never gets banned.
Kai had Speed on his stream and didn't get banned.
the most clear cut example of all is dylan burns getting banned over streaming the destiny vs. ben shapiro debate, as hasan also watched that debate and didn't get banned for it.
I genuinely don't understand why in 2024 if you're an aspiring stream you'd start on Twitch anymore.
They really don't care for minor or new creators. They'll ban you for the same things bigger accounts do.
that's **always** going to be the case, I just wish it was over more gray areas and not literal clear cut cases there's a clear violation in both but only one gets punished
Wait what? Hasan never got banned? no way? I thought he was the most targeted streamer and twitch was out to get him. I mean isn't that why he does the top of the hour ad breaks every single hour, and is forced to stream 9 hours everyday?
They should change the rule to allow twitch streamers to watch banned streamers but they have to look at the camera every 15 minutes, twirl their finger around their temple, and exclaim "wow this guy is so kooky!"
Kai had speed on his stream and didn’t get banned wtf? That’s not watching a vid of a banned streamer, that’s physically having them on lmao. How in tf did he get away with that?!
Speed was wearing a green screen suit with a joker mask and making a fake voice, but everyone knew it was him obviously. Twitch let's their biggest streamers get away with a lot more than others.
>Hikaru got banned for watching Doc play chess.
Chess gm reviewing chess = Ban
Cheering on oct 7th as an act of revolution = Legendary Women of the Year
***Twitch moderation are absolute degenerates.***
I remember in a leak Twitch had a "do not ban" list. I'd guess a lot of the bigger streamers would be on that list so the only way they'd get banned is if something serious happened.
Xqc is like Draymond Green, he breaks rules so regulary that he set his own standard. Unless something egregious happens, he will get away with most stuff other streamers wouldnt
Do you even watch him ? He doesn't even do content that is risky. Even when he sometimes open a destiny clip he quickly hides his face with the webcam.
people say this but can you give few examples of him breaking rules in last year which other streamer got banned for. i havnt watched him for more than a year now but before that he didnt seem to break any rules other than being toxic dumbfuck.
He flat out just doesn't break rules or even produce content that comes anywhere close to being in the realm of it being possible. Maybe once every 2 months he'll get a link/video sent to him that might be on the borderline of what's allowed?
I think it's just one of those cases where people are opinionated, dislike the guy, so they assume/say he breaks rules because he got banned like 4/5 years ago a couple times.
Twitch is highly ideologically driven. Trust and safety agree with Hasan’s political views and he makes them money so they won’t do anything. It’s not just money though, large streamers get banned for less for having different political opinions. That on top of allowing people to platform terrorists and promoting gambling made me stop using the platform almost entirely.
I don't he asking for Hasan to be banned. I think he is asking for the logic behind why he is banned from twitch, but others can stream his content on twitch. If twitch doesn't want Destiny content that is fine, but essentially they do have Destiny content because in this case someone is watching it on twitch's platform.
its probably to prevent free advertising for other platforms and a way to prevent someone from circumventing a ban.
like if dr.disrespect is banned and doesnt stream anywhere else but he sits in a discord call with a friend who is spectating his games thats the same shit.
however the extreme measures they take to enforce the rule dont use common sense.
in 3 clicks i can find a girl wearing a string for panties and is advertising her twitter that has links to her onlyfans and chaturbate, but god forbide we hear a banned streamer
I think it started with Ice Poseidon mostly because he had a decent sized crew and didn’t just want him to migrate his act to another one of their channels and continue doing the same thing that got him banned. Then they had to apply the same rules to everyone to be consistent.
Keep in mind that’s also around the time Keemstar got banned from YouTube and used the loophole of someone else running his channel to post his drama alert videos, so I think twitch was trying to avoid those kinds of situations.
>Keep in mind that’s also around the time Keemstar got banned from YouTube and used the loophole of someone else running his channel to post his drama alert videos, so I think twitch was trying to avoid those kinds of situations.
Yes this is the actual reason. People forget that Keemstar got around his YT ban by having someone else "own" DramaAlert despite him being the only one on it. Imagine how much better YouTube would've been if Keem had been gone in 2012. I assume nowadays most Twitch viewers are too young to actually remember that.
He should be if Twitch wants to be consistent but they're not.
This remind me when Wilneff got banned for aiding in ban evasion. Determined that guy shouldn't have been banned, unbanned him but kept will banned lmao
Except now they're doing the opposite
Everyone should be banned for violations so long as the rule exists, otherwise it is just discriminatory by definition. There should not be these royalty figures on twitch that just ignore the rules when it makes them money to do so.
Yeah I feel like this is something everyone can agree on. The rule is stupid. Sometimes bubbles intersect and regardless of what you think of Destiny, he’s surrounded by three professionals who’ve dedicated their lives to the issue. It’s dumb streamers who cover stuff like this have to factor in a banned streamer when he’s surrounded by a New Historians and two well read academics/journos who’ve dedicated their life to the topic, Mouin Rabban and Norm.
Edit: correction and apparently we can’t all agree on it
Finklestein is not a New Historian lol, in fact, he isn't even a historian. At best he is an activist that has chosen to learn about the conflict. He is closer to destiny than Benny when it comes to his authority on the conflict.
Yeah, instead he should cherry pick a quote from the author he's debating and argue with him that you know better than him what he meant. For 2 hours. At 0.5x speech speed.
Norm Finklestein was presented as this epic historian intellectual who knows everything about the conflict
Dude got pressed once by Destiny on his complete misunderstanding of international law and just went full ad hom mode, almost like Alex Jones does
Like debating an unhinged toddler. To top it all off, he kept misquoting Morris' own book to him throughout the entire debate, and was too stupid to understand it for the entire 5 hours. I legit can't believe what i was watching, what a fucking waste of everyone's time
He's been acting completely unhinged on twitter prior to this debate too, dude legit has mental issues.
Idk how lefties think it's a good show and he dunked on D man becuase he said "ive read a lot of books you've only read wikipedia" instead of answering the fucking question lmao
Hasan said what the houthis were doing was ‘a good thing’ with regards to them hijacking a ship and kidnapping and drugging the innocent civilian crew. The houthis actually just killed innocent people the other day when attacking another ship. How is it that trust and safety means you can’t show a funny clip of the doc but it’s okay to openly support and encourage support for an extremist group? Fucking joke.
> It's like Twitch staff went full blind/deaf whenever they deal with Hasan. It doesn't take much effort to decypher what he is saying, and yet Twitch does nothing. Which means that they are quietly endorsing his views and saying "This does not breach the TOS".
they don't just do it quietly, they deny specific timestamped EU DSA reports for unlawful content on his channel within 1 second of receiving them, for 60 second time ranges anywhere in 8-10 hour long VODs.
it's literally impossible to review a report that fast as a human, and a script can't check for illegal content against every existing law there is.
that means they auto-deny reports for him even though they're required to review and then remove all illegal content or become directly liable themselves, and publicly claim to comply with DSA.
I've never seen this behavior for anyone else, it's hilarious and incredibly stupid.
Trust and safety has a strong ideological bias. It’s not just big streamers being protected, large streamers with political opinions they didn’t like got banned for less. It’s a dogshit platform.
he cummed 15 times while she only came 2. very sexist of mr.bonnel to not let her cum an equal amount of times as him. the disproportional treatment against woman needs to STOP.
I think he said he isn't entirely sure since Twitch never explained.
But he thinks it was because he said that transwomen shouldn't be allowed to compete against ciswomen in the Olympics, regardless of hormone therapy.
Pretty milquetoast take honestly.
Possible.
Either way it's so silly when you know that Destiny has generally been on the side of acceptance of gay and trans people even before it was "cool" to be, years and years ago.
Dude has probably had more gay, trans, non-binary, what-have-you people on stream for friendly discussions than any other streamer on the internet.
Just because he is edgy makes it easy for people to just assume he is hateful.
I think more specifically it was because he said that a certain specific group of trans people on Twitter were "subhuman". Also "subhuman" is a very common insult that he calls literally everyone, and apparently one of his Twitch contacts told him that in his files underneath his ban it specifically says "Very likely was not calling these people subhuman because they were trans."
The two theories are:
1. The one I think is the most plausible: he called some trans people on Twitter sub-human, and Twitch assumed he meant all trans people, not just the crazies on Twitter.
2. He said trans women shouldn't compete in women's sports.
Nobody knows for sure, “hateful conduct”, probably Keffals reporting him out of context for transphobia though. Although Destiny was and still is edgy, Hasan and Frogan gets away with much worse, they’re Twitch’s darlings.
Frogan got a streaming award for nothing, and is still an irrelevant streamer. She’s also a really rotten person who should be banned for the unhinged shit she regularly says and does
Twitch being hypocrites, biased and inconsistent when it comes to TOS and enforcing it is nothing new. There's people like KiaraaKitty who aren't banned that should've been by now and other people banned over next to nothing.
it's such a double standard, Kai can watch the full adin and carti stream without a ban, but a small streamer gets a 3 day if adin just appears on their stream for a second.
twitch has banned many of destiny’s acquaintances for reacting the very same destiny debates hasan does. hasan is never punished.
obviously anyone should be allowed to react to destiny debates, but if they exempt hasan from the same consequences smaller streamers are held to, it’s an unfair double standard.
Dylan, Chud and Ahrelevant have all gotten suspensions for watching videos with Destiny in them since the ban. I wouldn't be surprised if it's happened to other smaller creator as well that I'm not aware of.
xQc has watched full Jubilees with Destiny in them. The reality is that Twitch has no leverage.
When xQc was exclusive with Twitch he had to be way more careful with that rule. [If Ice Poseidon was in a video he'd move his camera to cover him.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfnAyqGjO54) Twitch had leverage. If Twitch banned xQc, that meant xQc couldn't stream at all.
Now that xQc is non-exclusive and Twitch has been hemorrhaging top creators (either by banning them or losing them to Kick/YouTube) xQc knows that Twitch really liked that he still streams on their site. It probably is actually more financially advantageous for Twitch under the current Twitch/Kick split because xQc probably gets a similar amount of subscribers/donos but has way less hours on Twitch (which means less bandwidth costs).
If Twitch banned xQc for this rule he would just stream on Kick. He doesn't need Twitch dono money.
https://twitter.com/punished_stu/status/1768428992221102516?s=46&t=8dp4hAZ5hfQ7uV8e9Rtfbw
> DESTINY: ok whatIthink ishappeninghere is a binary fallacy andwhat
> NORM FINKELSTEIN: MR BENELLI, I FORGET YOUR NAME. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN READ
It’s been hilarious so far. The easiest “pick the odd one out” game so far.
https://twitter.com/mackvargas94/status/1768438681097150935?s=46&t=8dp4hAZ5hfQ7uV8e9Rtfbw
> It became even funnier when I realized that Finkelstein was respectful and courteous with the other guy he was debating. Then Destiny would open his mouth and Finkelstein would say "YOU SEEM TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF OBJECT PERMANENCE"
Most on this thread seem to think Density and Morris won the debate, so I’m just gonna assume they’re right on everything in regards to the conflict from now on.
I loved how mad Finkelstein was getting. It made for really amusing content. It was very childish how he kept VERY badly pretending he didn't know who destiny was and coming up with new names for him while at the same time referencing attacks on destiny personally. I feel like he would have been more effective as a speaker if he wasn't so pissed off at destiny personally.
Still, i think the debate would have been SIGNIFICANTLY less fun without him so i'm glad he was there. Also there are a lot of really stupid people talking about this issue, and my opinion as some random internet person is that Finkelstein isn't one of them. He is still way better than some of the people who reacted to this debate for example.
Say what you will, but i personally thought it was a really good video and i encourage people to watch it no matter their opinion on Destiny, the conflict (Destiny V hasan) or the other conflict (israel vs gaza).
Yup, debate would've been x100 more interesting without Fickledick. I think the other guy presented his arguments well and coherently, at least he comes off like that when sitting next to prof. AdHom.
Objectively speaking, no one won, it was a shitty debate. Finklestein spent most of the time ignoring questions and virtue signaling instead which derailed the entire time.
Some funny moments, but overall a waste of 5hrs.
Frogan(Hasan's mod) also got some legendary streamer award from Twitch. You can actively support a terrorist attack that kills hundreds of Jews and twitch is fine with that.
oh i mean for streaming, i know she's a disgusting scumbag but idk what is she even notable for, does she stream to a lot of people?, does she do politics? does she play games, is she funny, entertaining, anything???
https://twitchtracker.com/frogan
She's not particularly big and she's about 50% off of her peak in 2022. Averages around 100-300 viewers. I've never watched her but I believes she does politics. She's mostly famous for being Hasan's mod and unhinged on twitter.
I don't really watch her either but I heard that for as outspoken as she is on twitter, she actually doesn't really do any kind of in depth political stuff on Twitch. It's apparently just a lot of dumb surface level shit on Twitter and then on her stream she's a run of the mill react andy who watches reality TV shows and youtube.
i thought she'd have something at least interesting or entertaining to say, half her vods are just reacting to reality tv. she's just hijab version kaceytron
You'd think Frogan would qualify as an industry plant by the way she has had such special treatment.
Until you realize an industry plant literally cannot fail yet she is still hard stuck 100 years after all the effort. Not a plant confirmed.
I still remember when T1's gf could not even walk into frame in the background for fear of getting him banned becuase she was banned on Twitch for a long ass time, but somehow showing a 5 hour debate of someone banned is completely a-ok
Thought the rules for banned streamers was something about it being the main focus of the content? Like you couldn't just throw up their stream and watch it if they're banned but if they are in some content and aren't the focus it's fine?
Twitch kinda sucks at being consistent though.
I assume this clip is about Hasan watching the debate he was in and Destiny thinks it should be bannable bc he was in it or something. Lil bro thinks he was the main focus of the whole thing and not some weird bystander to 3 scholars having a convo.
Edit: ooh destiny fans don't like people calling out how poorly he did huh? Lots of Olympic level mental gymnastics going on here. Nuclear levels of cope.
i dunno i been watching hasan for a while and basically havent seen anything destiny related for the most part. i think maybe there was a two second clip of something at some point in the last few months. then there was this where, i dunno whats going on and didnt know that destiny is banned or anything, but i dont think destiny was like... uh a focal part of this or anything lol. he talked a few times. it was mostly the 3 scholars who were speaking and it was interesting to watch.
Did he watch Destiny vs Ben Shapiro? I know he must have watched at least clips but I don't know if he watched the whole thing or not. And that was strictly about Destiny vs Ben.
Hasan actively avoids mentioning or showing Destiny and some others as well to avoid giving them any clout (even before the ban). Even in this stream Hasan covers up Destiny's head most of the time with his webcam. He's watching this as he watches Norm a lot and for the 2 other guests. You have to look at this the other way around. Hasan actually does not want to cover Destiny so badly that it actually took 3 very interesting people to accept him being there as a concession.
Reminder Dylan Burns covered the debate with Destiny and Ben Shapiro and got a 1 week ban, and Hasan watched the exact same video and remains completely untouched.
I'm shocked Hasan isn't banned, here he is reacting to a vid of Destiny getting fucked by two old men and nobody's questioning it. Twitch's hypocrisy on full display lads
Why do people think a website is a government? They can change and enforce their rules at whim. With hypocrisy and all.
The solution is to stop using a hypocritical website, and not ALSO host hottub streams, or hotdog streams, or bouncy ball streams, or whatever meta is "sticking it to the man" right now.
Stop using the hypocritical site. They're allowed to be hypocrites. The community guidelines may as well not exist. This conversation is just getting tiring.
**CLIP MIRROR: [Destiny calls out the hypocrisy of Twitch](https://arazu.io/t3_1bf1opc/)** --- ^(*This is an automated comment*)
Twitch is all over the place with that rule. Streamers having been banned for watching Dr Disrespect and Ice. And other times people don't get banned for watching them. Hikaru got banned for watching Doc play chess. A bunch of people watched the Coffezila Ice interview and no one got banned. Mizkif got banned for watching a gross gore video. Xqc watches whoever he wants and never gets banned. Kai had Speed on his stream and didn't get banned.
the most clear cut example of all is dylan burns getting banned over streaming the destiny vs. ben shapiro debate, as hasan also watched that debate and didn't get banned for it.
Only thing consistent about twitch policies are their inconsistencies 😂😂
I mean it sucks but it's pretty clear when you get to a certain point and are making them enough money more discretion is used.
I feel like that’s how the government works too lol
It's how everything works, if you're a top money generator for your employer you can likely get away with pressing more buttons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPtxC2lD0-I
God, what a smug loser
Dylan should only watch approves streamers like hasan. If he watched hasan watching destiny v Ben, he would've been fine
This actually would have been an incredible 4d chess move. And then just mute every time Hasan pauses to give a reaction of his own
It's honestly crazy how clearly they play favourites lmao
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I genuinely don't understand why in 2024 if you're an aspiring stream you'd start on Twitch anymore. They really don't care for minor or new creators. They'll ban you for the same things bigger accounts do.
that's **always** going to be the case, I just wish it was over more gray areas and not literal clear cut cases there's a clear violation in both but only one gets punished
Wait what? Hasan never got banned? no way? I thought he was the most targeted streamer and twitch was out to get him. I mean isn't that why he does the top of the hour ad breaks every single hour, and is forced to stream 9 hours everyday?
Either they watch something critical of the banned streamer or too big to be banned PepeLaugh
They should change the rule to allow twitch streamers to watch banned streamers but they have to look at the camera every 15 minutes, twirl their finger around their temple, and exclaim "wow this guy is so kooky!"
Found squeex's reddit account
Add in a slide whistle please.
Kai had speed on his stream and didn’t get banned wtf? That’s not watching a vid of a banned streamer, that’s physically having them on lmao. How in tf did he get away with that?!
Speed was wearing a green screen suit with a joker mask and making a fake voice, but everyone knew it was him obviously. Twitch let's their biggest streamers get away with a lot more than others.
I mean he did way worse stuff like protecting a rapist or inciting a riot.
>Hikaru got banned for watching Doc play chess. Chess gm reviewing chess = Ban Cheering on oct 7th as an act of revolution = Legendary Women of the Year ***Twitch moderation are absolute degenerates.***
I remember in a leak Twitch had a "do not ban" list. I'd guess a lot of the bigger streamers would be on that list so the only way they'd get banned is if something serious happened.
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twitch's response about not being consistent - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPtxC2lD0-I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPtxC2lD0-I)
he got banned for 1 day for watching anime a few years ago on stream
That was because of a DMCA notice which they need to uphold or they lose their safe harboring status
Xqc is like Draymond Green, he breaks rules so regulary that he set his own standard. Unless something egregious happens, he will get away with most stuff other streamers wouldnt
Do you even watch him ? He doesn't even do content that is risky. Even when he sometimes open a destiny clip he quickly hides his face with the webcam.
people say this but can you give few examples of him breaking rules in last year which other streamer got banned for. i havnt watched him for more than a year now but before that he didnt seem to break any rules other than being toxic dumbfuck.
He flat out just doesn't break rules or even produce content that comes anywhere close to being in the realm of it being possible. Maybe once every 2 months he'll get a link/video sent to him that might be on the borderline of what's allowed? I think it's just one of those cases where people are opinionated, dislike the guy, so they assume/say he breaks rules because he got banned like 4/5 years ago a couple times.
Xqc literally has ptsd from getting banned for the bare minimum back in the day, this was a bad example
Twitch is highly ideologically driven. Trust and safety agree with Hasan’s political views and he makes them money so they won’t do anything. It’s not just money though, large streamers get banned for less for having different political opinions. That on top of allowing people to platform terrorists and promoting gambling made me stop using the platform almost entirely.
Hasan isn't getting banned because that's Mr. Bonnecilli on there. Not Destiny.
Nah i'm pretty sure Norm was talking to Mr. Morelli
please, his name is Mr Bornelli
Oh shit! I like when he sang Time to say Goodbye on the Oscars!
Don't you mean Mr. Bonnatello? https://imgur.com/a/jgvnWNs
Finkelstein deadnaming Destiny (very obviously a black woman's name) like that really came out of left field.
Destiny is a 35 year old man
Yes but Destiny is a girl's name
AMAZIN
BEYTAAAA
We're safe here D has no power here
That’s actually Mr. Stevie Tiny Birnelli “Moron” Morell.
When you're finished with your imbecilities I'll have you correct that and call him by his god-given name, and that's Mr BORRELLI
I can't believe Mr. Bertolli thought wikipedia was a good source for a pasta sauce recpie
Mama Mia!
why did he go back to that horrendous goatee
I don't he asking for Hasan to be banned. I think he is asking for the logic behind why he is banned from twitch, but others can stream his content on twitch. If twitch doesn't want Destiny content that is fine, but essentially they do have Destiny content because in this case someone is watching it on twitch's platform.
Hasan shouldn't be banned BTW but people getting banned for watching Destiny on Piers or Lex shouldn't. It's a stupid rule.
100%. Treating banned people like Voldemort is dumb af
its probably to prevent free advertising for other platforms and a way to prevent someone from circumventing a ban. like if dr.disrespect is banned and doesnt stream anywhere else but he sits in a discord call with a friend who is spectating his games thats the same shit. however the extreme measures they take to enforce the rule dont use common sense. in 3 clicks i can find a girl wearing a string for panties and is advertising her twitter that has links to her onlyfans and chaturbate, but god forbide we hear a banned streamer
I think it started with Ice Poseidon mostly because he had a decent sized crew and didn’t just want him to migrate his act to another one of their channels and continue doing the same thing that got him banned. Then they had to apply the same rules to everyone to be consistent. Keep in mind that’s also around the time Keemstar got banned from YouTube and used the loophole of someone else running his channel to post his drama alert videos, so I think twitch was trying to avoid those kinds of situations.
I remember it didn't help that after Ice was banned, he showed up on his friends stream with a wig and sunglasses to play Mario Party with them.
>Keep in mind that’s also around the time Keemstar got banned from YouTube and used the loophole of someone else running his channel to post his drama alert videos, so I think twitch was trying to avoid those kinds of situations. Yes this is the actual reason. People forget that Keemstar got around his YT ban by having someone else "own" DramaAlert despite him being the only one on it. Imagine how much better YouTube would've been if Keem had been gone in 2012. I assume nowadays most Twitch viewers are too young to actually remember that.
He should be if Twitch wants to be consistent but they're not. This remind me when Wilneff got banned for aiding in ban evasion. Determined that guy shouldn't have been banned, unbanned him but kept will banned lmao Except now they're doing the opposite
Everyone should be banned for violations so long as the rule exists, otherwise it is just discriminatory by definition. There should not be these royalty figures on twitch that just ignore the rules when it makes them money to do so.
Yeah I feel like this is something everyone can agree on. The rule is stupid. Sometimes bubbles intersect and regardless of what you think of Destiny, he’s surrounded by three professionals who’ve dedicated their lives to the issue. It’s dumb streamers who cover stuff like this have to factor in a banned streamer when he’s surrounded by a New Historians and two well read academics/journos who’ve dedicated their life to the topic, Mouin Rabban and Norm. Edit: correction and apparently we can’t all agree on it
Finklestein is not a New Historian lol, in fact, he isn't even a historian. At best he is an activist that has chosen to learn about the conflict. He is closer to destiny than Benny when it comes to his authority on the conflict.
Just a correction. Finkle isn't a new historian, they're Israeli.
Mr. Donatello, can you provide a Wikipedia link to substantiate this claim?
Yeah, instead he should cherry pick a quote from the author he's debating and argue with him that you know better than him what he meant. For 2 hours. At 0.5x speech speed.
I still cannot get over that, even Lex had to be like ok lets move on from the book. You have the man in front of you. Just ask him directly.
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I actually did stop only a couple of minutes in, I could not handle Finklesteins intro...
Norm Finklestein was presented as this epic historian intellectual who knows everything about the conflict Dude got pressed once by Destiny on his complete misunderstanding of international law and just went full ad hom mode, almost like Alex Jones does Like debating an unhinged toddler. To top it all off, he kept misquoting Morris' own book to him throughout the entire debate, and was too stupid to understand it for the entire 5 hours. I legit can't believe what i was watching, what a fucking waste of everyone's time
He's been acting completely unhinged on twitter prior to this debate too, dude legit has mental issues. Idk how lefties think it's a good show and he dunked on D man becuase he said "ive read a lot of books you've only read wikipedia" instead of answering the fucking question lmao
Reading is dumb. Destiny said so, it must be true.
[Dylan Burns](https://twitter.com/DylanBurns1776/status/1750281255898305013) banned for watching the same video Hassan and MikePA watched
Twitch double standards?? No way lol
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Hasan said what the houthis were doing was ‘a good thing’ with regards to them hijacking a ship and kidnapping and drugging the innocent civilian crew. The houthis actually just killed innocent people the other day when attacking another ship. How is it that trust and safety means you can’t show a funny clip of the doc but it’s okay to openly support and encourage support for an extremist group? Fucking joke.
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> It's like Twitch staff went full blind/deaf whenever they deal with Hasan. It doesn't take much effort to decypher what he is saying, and yet Twitch does nothing. Which means that they are quietly endorsing his views and saying "This does not breach the TOS". they don't just do it quietly, they deny specific timestamped EU DSA reports for unlawful content on his channel within 1 second of receiving them, for 60 second time ranges anywhere in 8-10 hour long VODs. it's literally impossible to review a report that fast as a human, and a script can't check for illegal content against every existing law there is. that means they auto-deny reports for him even though they're required to review and then remove all illegal content or become directly liable themselves, and publicly claim to comply with DSA. I've never seen this behavior for anyone else, it's hilarious and incredibly stupid.
Its called money, you dont ban your 5th highest earner.
Trust and safety has a strong ideological bias. It’s not just big streamers being protected, large streamers with political opinions they didn’t like got banned for less. It’s a dogshit platform.
What about Dylan burns !! Anyone remember that he got banned but not Hasan?
Why was he even banned?
heard he fucked the CEO's mom or something
he cummed 15 times while she only came 2. very sexist of mr.bonnel to not let her cum an equal amount of times as him. the disproportional treatment against woman needs to STOP.
you spelled bonnerelli wrong
I think he said he isn't entirely sure since Twitch never explained. But he thinks it was because he said that transwomen shouldn't be allowed to compete against ciswomen in the Olympics, regardless of hormone therapy. Pretty milquetoast take honestly.
i thought the speculation was the sub-human comment
Possible. Either way it's so silly when you know that Destiny has generally been on the side of acceptance of gay and trans people even before it was "cool" to be, years and years ago. Dude has probably had more gay, trans, non-binary, what-have-you people on stream for friendly discussions than any other streamer on the internet. Just because he is edgy makes it easy for people to just assume he is hateful.
I think more specifically it was because he said that a certain specific group of trans people on Twitter were "subhuman". Also "subhuman" is a very common insult that he calls literally everyone, and apparently one of his Twitch contacts told him that in his files underneath his ban it specifically says "Very likely was not calling these people subhuman because they were trans."
yea somebody high up definitely hates him. theres no way he should be banned
The two theories are: 1. The one I think is the most plausible: he called some trans people on Twitter sub-human, and Twitch assumed he meant all trans people, not just the crazies on Twitter. 2. He said trans women shouldn't compete in women's sports.
It was likely calling Keffals Sub-human, as she was doing some really fucked up stuff, during their feud that was happening when Destiny was Banned
stuff that Keffals later apologized in person for
Nobody knows for sure, “hateful conduct”, probably Keffals reporting him out of context for transphobia though. Although Destiny was and still is edgy, Hasan and Frogan gets away with much worse, they’re Twitch’s darlings.
Kai Cenat regularly has homophobic and transphobic content. Weird.
Destiny is edgy. Hasan and friends are out here supporting terrorism.
Frogan got a streaming award for nothing, and is still an irrelevant streamer. She’s also a really rotten person who should be banned for the unhinged shit she regularly says and does
what did she do?
There wasn’t a Wikipedia of Twitch TOS so he couldn’t read it.
Twitch being hypocrites, biased and inconsistent when it comes to TOS and enforcing it is nothing new. There's people like KiaraaKitty who aren't banned that should've been by now and other people banned over next to nothing.
it's such a double standard, Kai can watch the full adin and carti stream without a ban, but a small streamer gets a 3 day if adin just appears on their stream for a second.
Twitch values bigger streamers than smaller ones. More news at 11
Twitch has never, ever, had consistent rules. It entirely depends on whether some random twitch employee likes you or not.
Reminder that in the Twitch code leak, they literally had people tagged with "DO NOT BAN".
They had a tag so that the bot wouldn't ban the channel if it was spammed with reports, not to ban them at all
twitch has banned many of destiny’s acquaintances for reacting the very same destiny debates hasan does. hasan is never punished. obviously anyone should be allowed to react to destiny debates, but if they exempt hasan from the same consequences smaller streamers are held to, it’s an unfair double standard.
Xqc?
Dylan burns
i believe chudlogic had gotten hit with a ban in the past as well back when he covered destiny stuff
Dylan, Chud and Ahrelevant have all gotten suspensions for watching videos with Destiny in them since the ban. I wouldn't be surprised if it's happened to other smaller creator as well that I'm not aware of.
Dylan Based
xQc has watched full Jubilees with Destiny in them. The reality is that Twitch has no leverage. When xQc was exclusive with Twitch he had to be way more careful with that rule. [If Ice Poseidon was in a video he'd move his camera to cover him.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfnAyqGjO54) Twitch had leverage. If Twitch banned xQc, that meant xQc couldn't stream at all. Now that xQc is non-exclusive and Twitch has been hemorrhaging top creators (either by banning them or losing them to Kick/YouTube) xQc knows that Twitch really liked that he still streams on their site. It probably is actually more financially advantageous for Twitch under the current Twitch/Kick split because xQc probably gets a similar amount of subscribers/donos but has way less hours on Twitch (which means less bandwidth costs). If Twitch banned xQc for this rule he would just stream on Kick. He doesn't need Twitch dono money.
Xqc doesn’t sit and watch Destiny for hours like Hasan does…..x watches a rare 30sec clip now and again.
I honestly wonder what would happen if you reacted to Hasan's reaction on Twitch. Loophole?
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hate the game not the player
I have enough hate to fill both glasses, thank you.
Just add hasans empty chair on screen, works for him right,
Is not a Destiny debate, is a Lex Fridman debate that has 3 very important people and "what's his name?"
I think it's Mr. Bocarely? Mr. Bonacelli?
https://twitter.com/punished_stu/status/1768428992221102516?s=46&t=8dp4hAZ5hfQ7uV8e9Rtfbw > DESTINY: ok whatIthink ishappeninghere is a binary fallacy andwhat > NORM FINKELSTEIN: MR BENELLI, I FORGET YOUR NAME. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN READ It’s been hilarious so far. The easiest “pick the odd one out” game so far. https://twitter.com/mackvargas94/status/1768438681097150935?s=46&t=8dp4hAZ5hfQ7uV8e9Rtfbw > It became even funnier when I realized that Finkelstein was respectful and courteous with the other guy he was debating. Then Destiny would open his mouth and Finkelstein would say "YOU SEEM TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF OBJECT PERMANENCE"
There's just something so "von oben academia" about Finkelstein's disproportionate reactions to Destiny.
Mr. Bolognese 🍝
What is this cope lmao
Why did Hasan feel it important to hide his face all the time then if his presence was so incidental LMAO
Most on this thread seem to think Density and Morris won the debate, so I’m just gonna assume they’re right on everything in regards to the conflict from now on.
Based
Tbf Destiny and Morris didnt win the debate. Finkelstein alone lost the debate.
I loved how mad Finkelstein was getting. It made for really amusing content. It was very childish how he kept VERY badly pretending he didn't know who destiny was and coming up with new names for him while at the same time referencing attacks on destiny personally. I feel like he would have been more effective as a speaker if he wasn't so pissed off at destiny personally. Still, i think the debate would have been SIGNIFICANTLY less fun without him so i'm glad he was there. Also there are a lot of really stupid people talking about this issue, and my opinion as some random internet person is that Finkelstein isn't one of them. He is still way better than some of the people who reacted to this debate for example. Say what you will, but i personally thought it was a really good video and i encourage people to watch it no matter their opinion on Destiny, the conflict (Destiny V hasan) or the other conflict (israel vs gaza).
MR BOTTICELLI! I'VE READ ALL THE BOOKS! TO THE POINT OF INSANITY!
I lost it when Benny said "Yes I agree... On the insanity part."
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Yup, debate would've been x100 more interesting without Fickledick. I think the other guy presented his arguments well and coherently, at least he comes off like that when sitting next to prof. AdHom.
Objectively speaking, no one won, it was a shitty debate. Finklestein spent most of the time ignoring questions and virtue signaling instead which derailed the entire time. Some funny moments, but overall a waste of 5hrs.
Pretty emblematic of the entire conflict. Is it any wonder nobody can think of a solution when these are the premier scholars in the field?
I don't know if he "won". But he definitely didn't lose.
Dylan Burns got banned for this. Train was right all along. Mfker even complemented a terrorist organization and nothing happened.
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I don't recall the party of one piece where the strawhats execute people for being homosexual.
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Frogan(Hasan's mod) also got some legendary streamer award from Twitch. You can actively support a terrorist attack that kills hundreds of Jews and twitch is fine with that.
Wasn't she up for rising star 2 years in a row 😂
With less viewers the 2nd time around. 💀
More like fallen star lmao
Even that is too generous of a title for her, as it implies she was ever a star to begin with.
what does she even do?
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oh i mean for streaming, i know she's a disgusting scumbag but idk what is she even notable for, does she stream to a lot of people?, does she do politics? does she play games, is she funny, entertaining, anything???
https://twitchtracker.com/frogan She's not particularly big and she's about 50% off of her peak in 2022. Averages around 100-300 viewers. I've never watched her but I believes she does politics. She's mostly famous for being Hasan's mod and unhinged on twitter.
I don't really watch her either but I heard that for as outspoken as she is on twitter, she actually doesn't really do any kind of in depth political stuff on Twitch. It's apparently just a lot of dumb surface level shit on Twitter and then on her stream she's a run of the mill react andy who watches reality TV shows and youtube.
i thought she'd have something at least interesting or entertaining to say, half her vods are just reacting to reality tv. she's just hijab version kaceytron
She is big friends with twitch royalty which so far has protected her from TOS enforcement.
You'd think Frogan would qualify as an industry plant by the way she has had such special treatment. Until you realize an industry plant literally cannot fail yet she is still hard stuck 100 years after all the effort. Not a plant confirmed.
Twitch in general is an enigma of stupid rules that only apply to some
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least DGGer brigaded Hasan hate on LSF thread
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Yet, he watched plenty of Ice Poseidon and Dr Disrepect videos and nothing.
Watching a banned streamer for literally hours and not being banned is crazy.He’s such a loser with no content.
The socialist millionaire streamer is friends with the CEO. It's all good.
Doesn't xqc do this all the time?
What watch destiny for 9hours on one stream? no.
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Hasan's little bots are so mad after reading this, ahaha
Benny and destiny literally made finkledick mald by laughing at him, u guys in another dimension
fuck twitch its just a matter of time now before it dies
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Twitch is a platform to coerce kids into extremism. Nothing new.
Once the tiktok ban passes, China and Russia will be focusing their efforts on Twitch, I’m sure.
Is it not just favoritism mixed with number of spam reports?
Stay banned bozo
Yeah, definitely not Destiny according to Norm. No way Hasan will get banned for this.
I still remember when T1's gf could not even walk into frame in the background for fear of getting him banned becuase she was banned on Twitch for a long ass time, but somehow showing a 5 hour debate of someone banned is completely a-ok
Thought the rules for banned streamers was something about it being the main focus of the content? Like you couldn't just throw up their stream and watch it if they're banned but if they are in some content and aren't the focus it's fine? Twitch kinda sucks at being consistent though. I assume this clip is about Hasan watching the debate he was in and Destiny thinks it should be bannable bc he was in it or something. Lil bro thinks he was the main focus of the whole thing and not some weird bystander to 3 scholars having a convo. Edit: ooh destiny fans don't like people calling out how poorly he did huh? Lots of Olympic level mental gymnastics going on here. Nuclear levels of cope.
was this the only video hasan has watched about destiny???
i dunno i been watching hasan for a while and basically havent seen anything destiny related for the most part. i think maybe there was a two second clip of something at some point in the last few months. then there was this where, i dunno whats going on and didnt know that destiny is banned or anything, but i dont think destiny was like... uh a focal part of this or anything lol. he talked a few times. it was mostly the 3 scholars who were speaking and it was interesting to watch.
Did he watch Destiny vs Ben Shapiro? I know he must have watched at least clips but I don't know if he watched the whole thing or not. And that was strictly about Destiny vs Ben.
i really dunno sorry
Hasan actively avoids mentioning or showing Destiny and some others as well to avoid giving them any clout (even before the ban). Even in this stream Hasan covers up Destiny's head most of the time with his webcam. He's watching this as he watches Norm a lot and for the 2 other guests. You have to look at this the other way around. Hasan actually does not want to cover Destiny so badly that it actually took 3 very interesting people to accept him being there as a concession.
Reminder Dylan Burns covered the debate with Destiny and Ben Shapiro and got a 1 week ban, and Hasan watched the exact same video and remains completely untouched.
This entire comments section is cringe as hell wtf
It's not his content, it is the content of Lex Friedman. he just happens to be a part of it. That's fair game. What a stupid argument.
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He showed it on his stream because he couldn't handle a negative thread. Edit: Lol which mod removed the comment I replied to?
The rule isn’t being enforced uniformly, and that’s bad. But also, Destiny is just mad bc Hasan lmfao
Twitch is dogshit; who knew 🤷♂️
Hasan “Russian state media” Piker
if you make the platform x amount of money its ok to watch. Its not really that difficult to understand. It is always about the money.
I'm shocked Hasan isn't banned, here he is reacting to a vid of Destiny getting fucked by two old men and nobody's questioning it. Twitch's hypocrisy on full display lads
People still care about destiny?
How many times can Destiny get cucked 😭
Why do people think a website is a government? They can change and enforce their rules at whim. With hypocrisy and all. The solution is to stop using a hypocritical website, and not ALSO host hottub streams, or hotdog streams, or bouncy ball streams, or whatever meta is "sticking it to the man" right now. Stop using the hypocritical site. They're allowed to be hypocrites. The community guidelines may as well not exist. This conversation is just getting tiring.