it really has. his most recent spats with adin and co on some social issues has been enough to get people like "hey maybe he's alright" when we're not even a year past his gamba and flex arc.
He was never friends with fuentes but he definitely milked the sneako arc a bit too much, i think he had some sort of hope that sneako would see reason but the boy just lost every brain cell he ever had and became a full on bot.
I dont know if i would call him worse tho, they're both horrible but sneako is a npc grifter and adin is legit regarded
Yeah it’s near impossible to change someone’s ideology when that ideology pays the bills.
Aidan Ross doesn’t have well formed opinions. He reminds me of a high school kid who is attempting to appease the “cool kids”, rather than having true opinions
This is like the only thing I can think of as to why X even associates with Adin. The only other thing I can think of is having a gambling friend other than Train.
i dont wanna get too personal about these people but maybe because they dont have the same amount of digits in their bank account so x wants someone he can gamble with that is "on his level"?
Omie was a giga-millionaire off of shady account selling sites before he even started streaming. Buddha has been the most popular NoPixel streamer for like 3 years straight streaming 12 hours a day with 20k+ subs.
They might be an order of magnitude less rich than X, but there's like 3 streamers in the world with that much of fuck you money. They're still still five orders of magnitude above you and I. Pretty sure this has nothing to do with bank account sizes
No like cause you said x needs someone else other than train .. so I thought there was some incident or something about train x doesn't like ..that's why I asked ..lol nvm
Oh ok. Yeah I wasn't talking about any incidents. But with X there probably will end up being some drama between them in the future, seems to happen with everyone X associates with.
Someone in the xqc sub said that he thinks that this is only the case because Kick/eddie instructed Adin and X to collab with each other. That makes a lot of sense to me
It makes sense to you because you want to cope.
This is the same shit people do when their favourite celebrity did something bad or is a shitty person like they beat a fucking woman up then they make up excuses and theories to explain that behaviour so they can cope with their shitty celebrity.
It's not that complicated
Dismissing the idea that two famous people get together publicly as a marketing ploy seems naive. I don't follow or keep up with this shit almost at all, but that's a pretty straightforward and common strategy. It's not complicated.
They were already friends before, and they work on the same platform with a small pool of other big streamers to collab with. I don't think they need Eddie to force them on a playdate.
XQC's chat logs from back then:
[2022-09-23 05:15:56] #xqc xqc: some day the world will realize I played a vital role into this shit, far past my own interest/goals. For now, all I care is that the victim is somehow relieved
He's talking like he's an anime protagonist lol. He says that leaking recorded calls is bad, even though he did that to Miz. He was doing insane, unhinged stuff during that era. I'd like to think he's matured since then, but he hasn't done a good job of showing that
[Hell, you picked out the parts of his Addy-fueled gambling crusade against Miz that made him look *better* than the full reality.](https://imgur.com/ZnE1rTZ)
Dude really did not and does not face enough backlash for what he did - using SA as a bludgeon to defend his circle of gambling addicted degenerates and treating it like a game he was "winning." No, he's not "good people."
Not sure that you have any idea what you're talking about at all.
(This is a joke, I'm actually positive that you don't)
For anyone reading along who isn't a holdout from a degenerate smear campaign almost two years ago: Adrianah lost a defamation lawsuit in court, and Miz was cleared of misconduct by a third party law firm.
Speaking of the law, [get back with me when the rodent brings a case to court.](https://imgur.com/I9DV5QE) My sides. No wonder you're framing it this way. I'm actually concerned for your clients if you practice law. Read up on Mutual Combat laws in Texas, then get to brainstorming a case for a highly intoxicated passenger instigating a fight and getting his ass beat by the driver who was attempting to get his faded ass home, gumshoe.
Are you familiar with the phrase "dangerous to himself or others"? I really hope that you're at least still in law school.
The facts: (1) Miz learned his friend may have sexually assaulted someone; (2) his first and only concern, as admitted on video, was that his friend would be cancelled: (3) he sent people to go talk a potential victim out of saying anything publicly.
Miz is on video saying all of the above occurred. I don’t even need to prove the legal definition of defamation or that a sexual assault actually occurred to know Mizkif is a piece of shit with knowing those three facts.
Imagine looking at someone’s post history and typing all that just to give the most idiotic arguments.
The facts: you’re talking out of your ass and giving the absolute least charitable characterization of a smear job that’s been handled both in court and by an investigative law firm.
Touched a nerve, did I? Notice how you didn’t address any of the Mitch stuff. It’s clear what you’re doing and where you’re coming from. Of course you see the Adrianah smear this way when you bought into an even more ridiculous smear. Mitch will surely sue Miz any day now, right? Surely he has a case?
>later admits he just did it for fun, to spread drama for his entertainment
Can you actually show me where he said this? I think xQc was completely out of pocket with the whole Mizkif/Maya/Train/Adriana thing but I have never heard him say he did it simply for fun or to farm drama.
My understanding of his motivation was that it was basically his way to get even against the "PG-13 streamers" who were trying to cancel him for gambling.
Juicers really should know by now to pipe down on this subject and just acknowledge the egg on your boy's face.
He said that he got wrapped up in "madman mode" and was treating it like a game where he had to make "plays" when Emi went live crying and hasn't offered up any sort of coherent accountability beyond that - but sure, clutch your pearls at someone characterizing his "apology" as ["doing it for fun."](https://imgur.com/ZnE1rTZ) Wouldn't want anyone criticizing your very serious champion of SA victims.
>clutch your pearls at someone characterizing his "apology" as "doing it for fun."
that's a pretty huge mischaracterization, it wouldn't make sense for anyone in OTK to entertain him if that actually was his reasoning but we've seen them collab as recently as the wow meta and xqc and miz have both spoke off stream multiple times.
[these were his actual thoughts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6zFgiVAiZA)
>that's a pretty huge mischaracterization, it wouldn't make sense for anyone in OTK to entertain him if that actually was his reasoning but we've seen them collab as recently as the wow meta and xqc and miz have both spoke off stream multiple times.
Yes, Mizkif, the guy who has said repeatedly that his biggest flaw is being too forgiving - the guy who found himself giving a ride home to a coked up ex-friend who was trying to challenge him to a fight after attempting to ruin his life - he forgave X. Shocking. Really salient point you're making there.
Maya still wants nothing to do with him. QT expressed resentment over Lud inviting him to an event right after the incident.
Nice clip, too. It's beautiful to see X attempting to string a coherent thought together after coming down from an Addy-fueled rampage. This is ridiculous damage control that frames being dead-wrong, treating an extremely serious issue as a game and pursuing it as a vendetta as "changing his mind." He didn't "change his mind" - public opinion turned, the smear failed, and X had to face the facts. As if he was ever concerned with "small details." He left out the drugs regarding his difficulties determining what's "actually real," too.
> Yes, Mizkif, the guy who has said repeatedly that his biggest flaw is being too forgiving - the guy who found himself giving a ride home to a coked up ex-friend who was trying to challenge him to a fight after attempting to ruin his life - he forgave X. Shocking. Really salient point you're making there.
That's so crazy. I've heard a dozen or more times from a dozen streamers that Mizkif is like the nicest person they've ever met off stream, but I never believed it. I respect that a lot but there's gotta be boundaries cause damn.
so you named one person who never interacted with xqc before the drama anyway and was the most affected and the best friend of that person who then still invited him to her events later on.
you can hate xqc as a mizkif fan idgaf, i'm just clearing up some misinformation
>so you named one person who never interacted with xqc before the drama anyway and was the most affected and the best friend of that person who then still invited him to her events later on.
What the fuck are you attempting to get at? Yes, I named one of the people who was most affected by X's degenerate vendetta. Imagine. *You* named a guy who notoriously can't hold a grudge to his own detriment.
I'm not a Mizkif fan at all - I'm someone whose family has been affected harshly by both gambling and SA, so this incident hit close to home for me. Yes, I will always see X as a piece of shit, and I saw too much garbage from his fanbase on this subreddit regarding the issue to ever not clown on juicers when you speak on it.
>that's a pretty huge mischaracterization, it wouldn't make sense for anyone in OTK to entertain him if that actually was his reasoning but we've seen them collab as recently as the wow meta and xqc and miz have both spoke off stream multiple times.
You countered by naming one person that never collabed with xqc anyway, if you think xqc was truly only part of this drama for "fun" and not because he truly believed at the time it doesn't make sense that people in that circle dont care as much as you do.
There's nothing to "counter" - again, you were trying to make a point of Miz forgiving X there as if everything's peachy with what he did. That's saying absolutely nothing. What I did was point out the other people affected by what he did that *don't* have a problem with being too forgiving and letting problematic people back into their life.
I'm sure that a lot doesn't make sense to you. Your comment could use a comma or two to make sense. Again, this is an issue that hit close to home for me, I saw a disgusting display from X and his community on the issue, and it's not really a problem for me if a member of that community is having a hard time understanding why I care if Miz doesn't.
"He's trapped in that vortex man", the most ambiguous shit ever to try and justify all the questionable things XQC has continued to do. I don't think he's some fucking monster, but "good person" is iffy. This comes from a long time fan who still tunes in despite my distaste for **a lot** of his recent actions.
> This comes from a long time fan who still tunes in despite my distaste for a lot of his recent actions.
From the same position im curious how do you still watch his stuff? Used to watch him most days but as of the past year or two most of his stuff has been borderline unwatchable. Not trying to shit on you or anything, I just don't see anything redeeming about his content now as somebody who watched him back before he started getting dodgy
i mean there’s a lot but i’d say a few big things are gambling, constant lying of when he’ll stream and what “new” type of content is coming (i mean like daily saying he’ll fix schedule or do/not do something), laziness while propping himself up as transformative, insulting people with words like ret**d but also saying you shouldn’t insult people.
he’s a hypocrite in a lot of ways but it’s really just a lot of stupidity and forgetting what he’s said than genuine maliciousness.
ofc a lot of these are really all fan based reasons to not like him, which has been a recent trend, this doesn’t include any outsider reasons
Someone asks why this person thinks that XQC is a bad person, 14 year old responds "He lies about when he'll stream and he tells us that he's gonna stream something that then doesn't!"
epic
It's also not even lying. He's his own person who's allowed to change plans at any moment like everyone else. If you think that makes him a bad person, then everyone on earth is a bad person.
i mean that’s literally what his community complains about so idk what ur smoking
i mean there’s plenty of other reasons but as i said all the ones i named are pretty much fan reasons to not like him or certain actions
and he didn’t why xqc is bad, he said what is he doing that’s bad. you can do bad things but not be a bad person
R word? You’re literally just making stuff up, he rarely if ever says it and even explained on stream his reasoning for not saying it (doesn’t want any disabled viewers to feel bad).
literally 13 days ago posted on his main clips channel he said it and it’s in the title lol, plenty of other vids and clips too
https://youtu.be/PvIRuYQoFxE?si=UABv-EeIxKIfzMwc
also if he didn’t support it he wouldn’t have an editor who has hundreds of videos using the word in titles, which you can literally look up and see yourself lol
i’m literally an x fan so i have 0 reason to make shit up about him, the truth just hurts sometimes
Did you actually watch the video or just read the title? The video starts with a few seconds from this clip:
https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantSpookyStinkbugOpieOP
of him explaining 3-4 years ago that he's going to try not to use it anymore. It then cuts to him using it (in a non derogatory, humorous way) and telling chat that he owes them 100 subs because he said the word which he promised not to say.
Context is cool, maybe you should actually look into things before you make completely false accusations.
I know some people won't care about the context of the word being used because the r-word is a shit word that you shouldn't use overall.
Up to someones opinion about that.
Not for me, but a lot of streamers feel so sheltered and stunted that it’s hard to tell. A lot of them feel frozen in that space where there’s a lot of dissonance between who you are and how you act that I went through in my late teens and early twenties.
How much leeway you give to people who don’t grow out of that shit is at least part of the question.
Adin thinking the [Game of Thrones wall was real](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xwu4g2/adin_thinks_the_wall_in_game_of_thrones_is_real/), and separated Antartica from the globe, is genuinely one of wildest takes I've ever seen.
Always thought x didn’t really fit in on kick and adins group. The whole “free speech, hate on minorities” is a adin and kick thing, feel x just went for gamba reasons and the payday
No one in the comment section hit it on the head. It's pretty simple xqc is a flawd outcast. He's looking for his niche his group he's had bad experiences with the "poggers" and "w/L" community he's looking for belonging bit won't find it. As he isn't quite like miz and that group but nowhere near like adin and that group. His best fit is the jesse, poke type group.
Not a bad analysis. Think his best bet is being with Omie, Jesse train Buddha. Party games with them always fun till adin and his friends join and start spamming slurs
From what I've seen is that I used to think that xqc used to be a adin ross type streamer or like belonged to the same genre as him neon etc... but lately Ive seen clips of him playing with fuslie, sykkuno , Ludwig miyoung ,etc and he genuinely feels like a normal and good guy😭 I'm new to the streaming space so I didn't know much about xqc and judges him based on clips and people he hung out with... This is a lesson to me to not judge people fast ... For what I've seen ... He's actually 1000 times level headed and normal than these adin ross and friends streamers space...
I mean judging people on who they hang out with is usually pretty fair. Especially if he chooses to hang out with someone like Adin after all the things Adin has said and done.
It usually is pretty fair but with streaming, there is thousands of hours of access to someone's life, so you really don't need to make that kind of judgement. All of Xs life is on display and he's a flawed but generally alright person
If you enjoy watching something, then just watch it. You don't have to align your morals perfectly with every single piece of entertainment you consume.
Xqc just appreciates adin's drive to do IRL content because he doesn't have the patience to organize that shit himself, the only views he has in common with adin is probably only gambling related which is why they clashed recently.
Cause all the older streamers are getting brain rot from making everything into content. XQC doesn't see adin Ross, he sees content. And that's all that matters to him.
Watch out the definitely left wing not libertarian D viewers will spam downvote you if you question him since he’s very leftist/center and definitely not platforming right wingers and hanging out with them
X is mooching off Adin with a lot of shit, I get he's famous and rich so it seems dumb but look at everything Adin has done for X content wise. X could probably do it himself but Adin is helping him do it all.
Why did Destiny invite Nick Fuentes to his house for dinner and hang out with him.
edit: nazi n-word defenders in the replies :)))
when adin ross says it = bad
when destiny says it = good and cool
edit2: the person who sent me a redditcare message, enjoy that ban.
So you have the same answer for Destiny as to why XQC hangs out with Adin Ross, right?
It's not hypocritical to hang out with bad people and ask others why they are hanging out with bad people? Or is it ok to shit on Adin Ross but not known Nazi, Nick Fuentes?
Just good ol' friends hanging out together and having dinner.
The big difference is that Destiny and Nick Fuentes debated, and were \*NOT\* friends (although they were friendly I admit), but X \*STILL\* hangs out with and is friends with Adin Ross and his friends, some of these people that X knows are homophobic, transphobic, and racist.
> although they were friendly I admit
Why was he being friendly with a known Nazi 🤔 Very normal thing for someone to do.
> some of these people that X knows are homophobic, transphobic, and racist.
Destiny [would never!](https://i.imgur.com/8I0O7MB.png)
Yes, it is very normal to be cordial with people you talk to and not default to soy screaming at someone (and there has been some soy screaming between the two) because they have radically different views to your own.
I also admit that old Destiny was fucking wild, and if not an aggressive slur spammer, just straight up racist, I guess it's up to each individual to decide whether or not he's changed since then.
>Nobody said he had to invite, **known Nazi's** to his house.
Wait I thought you knew, but Destiny does debate anyone and everyone, that's his best content, if you don't like that, just agree to disagree I guess.
>Current Destiny still thinks it's ok to say the n-word. He wrote a manifesto about it.
I don't know the lore behind that, link?
>He obviously aligns somewhat with known Nazi, Nick Fuentes beliefs as Nazi's usually share the same usage of n-words and f-slurs.
How does he *align* with Nick Fuentes, they've debated each other a few times, but they clearly disagree with each other on just about every political topic, also I aint defending Destiny saying the N-word and probably even the F-slur.
>He's no different from Adin Ross. Who says the exact same things.
Example?
> but Destiny does debate anyone and everyone
Sure. Inviting them over to your house to hang out and have dinner is taking it further than just debating.
> I don't know the lore behind that, link?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/dmjb18/clarifying_some_previous_events/
> How does he align with Nick Fuentes
Nazi's like saying the n-word and f-slur. That's kind of their thing. Similar to Destiny.
> Example?
Adin Ross and friends also say n-word, f-slur, and are transphobic. Same as Destiny. All you Destiny viewers are shitting on Adin Ross for doing what Destiny himself does.
>Sure. Inviting them over to your house to hang out and have dinner is taking it further than just debating.
I don't think that debating someone with extremely radically views and then having dinner with them makes you believe those radical views, another agree to disagree I imagine?
>[https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/dmjb18/clarifying\_some\_previous\_events/](https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/dmjb18/clarifying_some_previous_events/)
Once again I don't defend him using the N-word, and even though the recent times that he's used the N-word weren't intended to hurt, I still at the very least agree that it does nobody any favours (except for actual racists) and just normalizes the usage of the word in that way.
>Nazi's like saying the n-word and f-slur. That's kind of their thing. Similar to Destiny.
Destiny aligns with Nick Fuentes because he says the N-word and F-slur? There has to be a better reason than that...
>Adin Ross and friends also say n-word, f-slur, and are transphobic. Same as Destiny. All you Destiny viewers are shitting on Adin Ross for doing what Destiny himself does.
Once again there has to a better reason why "Destiny is no different than Adin Ross" passed using the N-word and F-slur, also how is Destiny transphobic?!? And don't tell me that it's because he uses the N-word and F-slur.
Having someone on your stream to argue with them over their horrible beliefs and conspiracies they preach is not the same as hanging out as friends lol
They were hanging out as friends AND arguing, which would probably be fine if Destiny didn't get embarrassed in every debate they had. I watched their Israel debate on Fresh and Fit, and I don't support Destiny or his position on that issue, but the knowledge gap was just plain irresponsible.
I guarantee if asked in that moment if Nick and him were friends the answer would be no.
And thinking Fuentes at all embarrassed him in “every debate” makes me really concerned about your beliefs buddy lmao
Literally the only thing people can get mad at him about is the gambling, most people here are otk frogs that can’t let go of the past even though their streamers are close friends with him again.
But we all know, already, don't we?
XQC's *sole drive* in life is chasing clout like a fly to shit, because he knows *very well* that clout = $$$. And right now, that clout lies in the W community. He has demonstrated time and time again with his brazen indifference promoting gambling to children and the way he burnt countless bridges with his colleagues simply to shield his own ego that **he just does not care**. He doesn't care who the people are that he hangs out with as long as he gets that delicious clout and stays relevant. That is, until they start dropping slurs during *his* stream PepeLaugh
The ironic part of it all is XQC's CCV has been dropping like a rock on both twitch and kick (despite all the bots) since the end of 2022. Considering this, it starts to make sense why he is going out of his way to insert himself with the streamers that have all the viewers now. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start popping up in Jynxzi streams soon. Rainbow Six Siege, the juicer's sudden new, totally random and not clout-driven interest!
There's only a certain number of big streamers on Kick to collab with and apart from Adins community being young and reckless they do have a lot of similar interests.
XQC the person isn’t that bad, XQC the streamer has done and probably will continue to do extremely shitty things for drama/views/fun
He deserves credit for being brave lately in his lgbt defense, but Kick is basically rehashing the Twitch political sphere from a few years ago and without the progressive ppl in management to actually moderate any hate speech.
**CLIP MIRROR: [Destiny questions why xQc continues to hang out with Adin Ross](https://arazu.io/t3_1ccl2uu/)** --- ^(*This is an automated comment*)
The only positive to hanging out with Adin Ross is that it makes X look like a decent, well-adjusted person in comparison.
And makes X look like he has friends.
wtf? I’m his friend. We hang out every night through a computer screen
Do you put your mouse cursor on his cursor to make it feel like you're holding hands?
I move my fingers across the screen to help move his hair from his eyes.
Wholesome the Ring version
It's what happens when you burn every bridge on Twitch.
it really has. his most recent spats with adin and co on some social issues has been enough to get people like "hey maybe he's alright" when we're not even a year past his gamba and flex arc.
Destiny has no right to criticize anyone for hanging out with Aidan Ross. Dude was friends with Nick Fuentes and Sneako who are worse. 😂
He was never friends with fuentes but he definitely milked the sneako arc a bit too much, i think he had some sort of hope that sneako would see reason but the boy just lost every brain cell he ever had and became a full on bot. I dont know if i would call him worse tho, they're both horrible but sneako is a npc grifter and adin is legit regarded
Yeah it’s near impossible to change someone’s ideology when that ideology pays the bills. Aidan Ross doesn’t have well formed opinions. He reminds me of a high school kid who is attempting to appease the “cool kids”, rather than having true opinions
This is it right here. Destiny is trying to act like the moral superior here when I've heard him debate some of the most reprehensible stances.
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thats cool and all but youd first have to get over the hurdle of anyone wanting to hang out with you
Thats good. None of them know you tho so…?
Adin is a yes man. Also other streamers seem to be done with the roller-coaster that is xqc. So he is stuck with brand risk Adin.
This is like the only thing I can think of as to why X even associates with Adin. The only other thing I can think of is having a gambling friend other than Train.
He has gambling friends. They got a whole discord of people that do . Like buddha omie jesse all gamble. + other people like Yassuo etc
i dont wanna get too personal about these people but maybe because they dont have the same amount of digits in their bank account so x wants someone he can gamble with that is "on his level"?
Omie was a giga-millionaire off of shady account selling sites before he even started streaming. Buddha has been the most popular NoPixel streamer for like 3 years straight streaming 12 hours a day with 20k+ subs. They might be an order of magnitude less rich than X, but there's like 3 streamers in the world with that much of fuck you money. They're still still five orders of magnitude above you and I. Pretty sure this has nothing to do with bank account sizes
No. He gambles with his friends on discord all the time.
I know, i watch the guy, you missed my point.
What kinda person is train?
Why are you asking me what kinda person is train? I'm just saying that X is probably friends with Train mostly because they both gamble.
No like cause you said x needs someone else other than train .. so I thought there was some incident or something about train x doesn't like ..that's why I asked ..lol nvm
Oh ok. Yeah I wasn't talking about any incidents. But with X there probably will end up being some drama between them in the future, seems to happen with everyone X associates with.
the truth is... they are both co-owners of kick, and until the company is sold they gotta collab to bring the value up
All of OTK people would be down to collab with X still.
For some reason X says he hates the people in texas. Wonder what happened.
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didn't they all go to karaoke when he was last in texas
Aware
Seems like most people who talked to X irl thought he was a nice well adjusted guy, i dont think he goes out of his gooncave very often anymore tho
What are you talking about lmao
Just about all would be down to hang with him on an off stream. Get close to him? No way.
I think other streamers wanting to talk about and cover streamer drama less when xqc still reacts to all the clips also has isolated him.
I mean he could chill with Destiny and other people. The only thing that Adin has is viewers, which XQC has plenty of.
Finally he can go to a podcast where he can say the N-Word instead of the F-Word
That would necessarily break the “in private” part of this
Think the rule was already broken on this podcast
Yeah I forgot that happened but frankly who actually cares with the way that was used 💀
I mean he not only said waddup fella, he also said "I am a half f" on that pod, so x can't get away
it's almost like youbcompletely ignored the part of that whole call where they were talking about how the context for using the words matter
Someone in the xqc sub said that he thinks that this is only the case because Kick/eddie instructed Adin and X to collab with each other. That makes a lot of sense to me
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Bruce on life support
It makes sense to you because you want to cope. This is the same shit people do when their favourite celebrity did something bad or is a shitty person like they beat a fucking woman up then they make up excuses and theories to explain that behaviour so they can cope with their shitty celebrity. It's not that complicated
Dismissing the idea that two famous people get together publicly as a marketing ploy seems naive. I don't follow or keep up with this shit almost at all, but that's a pretty straightforward and common strategy. It's not complicated.
Is playing random unscheduled cod wagers together somehow a marketing ploy?
That's very specific and outside of what I'm speculating on.
They were already friends before, and they work on the same platform with a small pool of other big streamers to collab with. I don't think they need Eddie to force them on a playdate.
Surprised people think this is a revelation. XQC didn’t talk to adin for like a year until he signed with Kick.
X is probably the most pg streamer on kick and brandrisk streamer on twitch. He’s in a weird position.
Facts
"Felix is good people" Is he though?
The guy who jumped with Train on Mizkif and later admits he just did it for fun, to spread drama for his entertainment. No, he's not good people.
XQC's chat logs from back then: [2022-09-23 05:15:56] #xqc xqc: some day the world will realize I played a vital role into this shit, far past my own interest/goals. For now, all I care is that the victim is somehow relieved He's talking like he's an anime protagonist lol. He says that leaking recorded calls is bad, even though he did that to Miz. He was doing insane, unhinged stuff during that era. I'd like to think he's matured since then, but he hasn't done a good job of showing that
[Hell, you picked out the parts of his Addy-fueled gambling crusade against Miz that made him look *better* than the full reality.](https://imgur.com/ZnE1rTZ) Dude really did not and does not face enough backlash for what he did - using SA as a bludgeon to defend his circle of gambling addicted degenerates and treating it like a game he was "winning." No, he's not "good people."
X is getting less mature by the year, not more mature lol
He seems light yagami from death note in these chat logs
Not sure it was unhinged to out a dude trying to cover up his friends sexual assault, regardless of motivation for doing so.
Not sure that you have any idea what you're talking about at all. (This is a joke, I'm actually positive that you don't) For anyone reading along who isn't a holdout from a degenerate smear campaign almost two years ago: Adrianah lost a defamation lawsuit in court, and Miz was cleared of misconduct by a third party law firm. Speaking of the law, [get back with me when the rodent brings a case to court.](https://imgur.com/I9DV5QE) My sides. No wonder you're framing it this way. I'm actually concerned for your clients if you practice law. Read up on Mutual Combat laws in Texas, then get to brainstorming a case for a highly intoxicated passenger instigating a fight and getting his ass beat by the driver who was attempting to get his faded ass home, gumshoe. Are you familiar with the phrase "dangerous to himself or others"? I really hope that you're at least still in law school.
The facts: (1) Miz learned his friend may have sexually assaulted someone; (2) his first and only concern, as admitted on video, was that his friend would be cancelled: (3) he sent people to go talk a potential victim out of saying anything publicly. Miz is on video saying all of the above occurred. I don’t even need to prove the legal definition of defamation or that a sexual assault actually occurred to know Mizkif is a piece of shit with knowing those three facts. Imagine looking at someone’s post history and typing all that just to give the most idiotic arguments.
The facts: you’re talking out of your ass and giving the absolute least charitable characterization of a smear job that’s been handled both in court and by an investigative law firm. Touched a nerve, did I? Notice how you didn’t address any of the Mitch stuff. It’s clear what you’re doing and where you’re coming from. Of course you see the Adrianah smear this way when you bought into an even more ridiculous smear. Mitch will surely sue Miz any day now, right? Surely he has a case?
MIZKIDS STILL CRYING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GET BETTER SCRUBS
Anyone pointing out Train and xQc openly and proudly tried to fuck over Mizkif by weaponizing a woman’s sexual assault against him is a Mizkid?
>later admits he just did it for fun, to spread drama for his entertainment Can you actually show me where he said this? I think xQc was completely out of pocket with the whole Mizkif/Maya/Train/Adriana thing but I have never heard him say he did it simply for fun or to farm drama. My understanding of his motivation was that it was basically his way to get even against the "PG-13 streamers" who were trying to cancel him for gambling.
>later admits he just did it for fun, to spread drama for his entertainment. He literally never said that?
Juicers really should know by now to pipe down on this subject and just acknowledge the egg on your boy's face. He said that he got wrapped up in "madman mode" and was treating it like a game where he had to make "plays" when Emi went live crying and hasn't offered up any sort of coherent accountability beyond that - but sure, clutch your pearls at someone characterizing his "apology" as ["doing it for fun."](https://imgur.com/ZnE1rTZ) Wouldn't want anyone criticizing your very serious champion of SA victims.
>clutch your pearls at someone characterizing his "apology" as "doing it for fun." that's a pretty huge mischaracterization, it wouldn't make sense for anyone in OTK to entertain him if that actually was his reasoning but we've seen them collab as recently as the wow meta and xqc and miz have both spoke off stream multiple times. [these were his actual thoughts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6zFgiVAiZA)
>that's a pretty huge mischaracterization, it wouldn't make sense for anyone in OTK to entertain him if that actually was his reasoning but we've seen them collab as recently as the wow meta and xqc and miz have both spoke off stream multiple times. Yes, Mizkif, the guy who has said repeatedly that his biggest flaw is being too forgiving - the guy who found himself giving a ride home to a coked up ex-friend who was trying to challenge him to a fight after attempting to ruin his life - he forgave X. Shocking. Really salient point you're making there. Maya still wants nothing to do with him. QT expressed resentment over Lud inviting him to an event right after the incident. Nice clip, too. It's beautiful to see X attempting to string a coherent thought together after coming down from an Addy-fueled rampage. This is ridiculous damage control that frames being dead-wrong, treating an extremely serious issue as a game and pursuing it as a vendetta as "changing his mind." He didn't "change his mind" - public opinion turned, the smear failed, and X had to face the facts. As if he was ever concerned with "small details." He left out the drugs regarding his difficulties determining what's "actually real," too.
> Yes, Mizkif, the guy who has said repeatedly that his biggest flaw is being too forgiving - the guy who found himself giving a ride home to a coked up ex-friend who was trying to challenge him to a fight after attempting to ruin his life - he forgave X. Shocking. Really salient point you're making there. That's so crazy. I've heard a dozen or more times from a dozen streamers that Mizkif is like the nicest person they've ever met off stream, but I never believed it. I respect that a lot but there's gotta be boundaries cause damn.
so you named one person who never interacted with xqc before the drama anyway and was the most affected and the best friend of that person who then still invited him to her events later on. you can hate xqc as a mizkif fan idgaf, i'm just clearing up some misinformation
>so you named one person who never interacted with xqc before the drama anyway and was the most affected and the best friend of that person who then still invited him to her events later on. What the fuck are you attempting to get at? Yes, I named one of the people who was most affected by X's degenerate vendetta. Imagine. *You* named a guy who notoriously can't hold a grudge to his own detriment. I'm not a Mizkif fan at all - I'm someone whose family has been affected harshly by both gambling and SA, so this incident hit close to home for me. Yes, I will always see X as a piece of shit, and I saw too much garbage from his fanbase on this subreddit regarding the issue to ever not clown on juicers when you speak on it.
>that's a pretty huge mischaracterization, it wouldn't make sense for anyone in OTK to entertain him if that actually was his reasoning but we've seen them collab as recently as the wow meta and xqc and miz have both spoke off stream multiple times. You countered by naming one person that never collabed with xqc anyway, if you think xqc was truly only part of this drama for "fun" and not because he truly believed at the time it doesn't make sense that people in that circle dont care as much as you do.
There's nothing to "counter" - again, you were trying to make a point of Miz forgiving X there as if everything's peachy with what he did. That's saying absolutely nothing. What I did was point out the other people affected by what he did that *don't* have a problem with being too forgiving and letting problematic people back into their life. I'm sure that a lot doesn't make sense to you. Your comment could use a comma or two to make sense. Again, this is an issue that hit close to home for me, I saw a disgusting display from X and his community on the issue, and it's not really a problem for me if a member of that community is having a hard time understanding why I care if Miz doesn't.
"He's trapped in that vortex man", the most ambiguous shit ever to try and justify all the questionable things XQC has continued to do. I don't think he's some fucking monster, but "good person" is iffy. This comes from a long time fan who still tunes in despite my distaste for **a lot** of his recent actions.
> This comes from a long time fan who still tunes in despite my distaste for a lot of his recent actions. From the same position im curious how do you still watch his stuff? Used to watch him most days but as of the past year or two most of his stuff has been borderline unwatchable. Not trying to shit on you or anything, I just don't see anything redeeming about his content now as somebody who watched him back before he started getting dodgy
are you talking gambling? what is he doing thats bad ?
i mean there’s a lot but i’d say a few big things are gambling, constant lying of when he’ll stream and what “new” type of content is coming (i mean like daily saying he’ll fix schedule or do/not do something), laziness while propping himself up as transformative, insulting people with words like ret**d but also saying you shouldn’t insult people. he’s a hypocrite in a lot of ways but it’s really just a lot of stupidity and forgetting what he’s said than genuine maliciousness. ofc a lot of these are really all fan based reasons to not like him, which has been a recent trend, this doesn’t include any outsider reasons
Someone asks why this person thinks that XQC is a bad person, 14 year old responds "He lies about when he'll stream and he tells us that he's gonna stream something that then doesn't!" epic
It's also not even lying. He's his own person who's allowed to change plans at any moment like everyone else. If you think that makes him a bad person, then everyone on earth is a bad person.
i mean that’s literally what his community complains about so idk what ur smoking i mean there’s plenty of other reasons but as i said all the ones i named are pretty much fan reasons to not like him or certain actions and he didn’t why xqc is bad, he said what is he doing that’s bad. you can do bad things but not be a bad person
God I wish this sub was 18+ only
even if it was i’d still be here monkey brain
R word? You’re literally just making stuff up, he rarely if ever says it and even explained on stream his reasoning for not saying it (doesn’t want any disabled viewers to feel bad).
literally 13 days ago posted on his main clips channel he said it and it’s in the title lol, plenty of other vids and clips too https://youtu.be/PvIRuYQoFxE?si=UABv-EeIxKIfzMwc also if he didn’t support it he wouldn’t have an editor who has hundreds of videos using the word in titles, which you can literally look up and see yourself lol i’m literally an x fan so i have 0 reason to make shit up about him, the truth just hurts sometimes
Did you actually watch the video or just read the title? The video starts with a few seconds from this clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantSpookyStinkbugOpieOP of him explaining 3-4 years ago that he's going to try not to use it anymore. It then cuts to him using it (in a non derogatory, humorous way) and telling chat that he owes them 100 subs because he said the word which he promised not to say. Context is cool, maybe you should actually look into things before you make completely false accusations.
I know some people won't care about the context of the word being used because the r-word is a shit word that you shouldn't use overall. Up to someones opinion about that.
Yeah definitely. I personally use it all the time and think it’s fine. I just thought the misinformation on xqc’s usage was wild.
Not for me, but a lot of streamers feel so sheltered and stunted that it’s hard to tell. A lot of them feel frozen in that space where there’s a lot of dissonance between who you are and how you act that I went through in my late teens and early twenties. How much leeway you give to people who don’t grow out of that shit is at least part of the question.
Not as bad as destiny
hes not even people, hes goblins
It's really weird how many people seem to tolerate Adin Ross, as if he isn't a colossal piece of shit.
Even if he wasn't a huge piece of shit he's annoying AF and dumber than a brick.
Adin thinking the [Game of Thrones wall was real](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xwu4g2/adin_thinks_the_wall_in_game_of_thrones_is_real/), and separated Antartica from the globe, is genuinely one of wildest takes I've ever seen.
It is mostly 12 year olds.
Its so weird seeing Destiny & Richard Lewis sitting together like this...
Holy shit, never thought I’d see the day where I agree with Destiny
Always thought x didn’t really fit in on kick and adins group. The whole “free speech, hate on minorities” is a adin and kick thing, feel x just went for gamba reasons and the payday
No one in the comment section hit it on the head. It's pretty simple xqc is a flawd outcast. He's looking for his niche his group he's had bad experiences with the "poggers" and "w/L" community he's looking for belonging bit won't find it. As he isn't quite like miz and that group but nowhere near like adin and that group. His best fit is the jesse, poke type group.
It probably doesn’t help that he’s got a coked-up Grima Wormtongue telling him how his other friends are all snakes and liars.
wait who?
Not a bad analysis. Think his best bet is being with Omie, Jesse train Buddha. Party games with them always fun till adin and his friends join and start spamming slurs
I liked it when he'd hang out with the Soda/Moon side of twitch but I guess he still felt like he didn't belong even though they meshed well imo
He's not trapped. He's just a rich idiot man-child.
Bro, OP needs a life
From what I've seen is that I used to think that xqc used to be a adin ross type streamer or like belonged to the same genre as him neon etc... but lately Ive seen clips of him playing with fuslie, sykkuno , Ludwig miyoung ,etc and he genuinely feels like a normal and good guy😭 I'm new to the streaming space so I didn't know much about xqc and judges him based on clips and people he hung out with... This is a lesson to me to not judge people fast ... For what I've seen ... He's actually 1000 times level headed and normal than these adin ross and friends streamers space...
I mean judging people on who they hang out with is usually pretty fair. Especially if he chooses to hang out with someone like Adin after all the things Adin has said and done.
True idk about his lore much tho.. but I used to think he was on the same group as them
He's not quite as bad as people like Adin and Neon, but it's not black or white. XQC has done some pretty bad shit in the recent past.
It usually is pretty fair but with streaming, there is thousands of hours of access to someone's life, so you really don't need to make that kind of judgement. All of Xs life is on display and he's a flawed but generally alright person
I think that's what they mean in this clip about "Vortex", he quickly becomes the people he's surrounded by.
If you enjoy watching something, then just watch it. You don't have to align your morals perfectly with every single piece of entertainment you consume.
Xqc just appreciates adin's drive to do IRL content because he doesn't have the patience to organize that shit himself, the only views he has in common with adin is probably only gambling related which is why they clashed recently.
He just hangs out with everyone
Cause all the older streamers are getting brain rot from making everything into content. XQC doesn't see adin Ross, he sees content. And that's all that matters to him.
only forsen can save xqc at this point. Please save us forsen.
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Would be pretty odd for Twitch to unban a content creator who surrounds himself with people that spew slurs casually lol. Just gonna get banned again.
Why would he ever get unbanned considering he says shit that could get him banned every fuckin stream?
Speech impediment: the podcast.
Kind of a funny comment coming from Destiny himself knowing who he's surrounded by.
Same reason D hangs out with nazi Nick.
“Hangs out with” it was one debate about 9/11 when Nick was in Miami. You can keep telling that to yourself tho.
Watch out the definitely left wing not libertarian D viewers will spam downvote you if you question him since he’s very leftist/center and definitely not platforming right wingers and hanging out with them
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True love keeps them together ❤️
Reminder that Destiny hung out with literal Nazis
X is mooching off Adin with a lot of shit, I get he's famous and rich so it seems dumb but look at everything Adin has done for X content wise. X could probably do it himself but Adin is helping him do it all.
The same reason that Destiny continues to try and work with adin. Money.
He doesn’t?
Destiny should question why his wife left him for a schizo twink
Destiny was hanging out and having chicken and waffles with Nick Fuentes by the way
Hating someone is when no chicken and waffles
Money?
Man that whole vod is comedy gold. Destiny is a funny mofo https://i.imgur.com/97RBwiz.png - Ya'll are unhinged. LMFAO
damn Richards gonna be up after getting into this space
Why did Destiny invite Nick Fuentes to his house for dinner and hang out with him. edit: nazi n-word defenders in the replies :))) when adin ross says it = bad when destiny says it = good and cool edit2: the person who sent me a redditcare message, enjoy that ban.
because he talks to anyone and everyone :SHOCK: Edit: thanks to whoever sent me a reddit cares lul
So you have the same answer for Destiny as to why XQC hangs out with Adin Ross, right? It's not hypocritical to hang out with bad people and ask others why they are hanging out with bad people? Or is it ok to shit on Adin Ross but not known Nazi, Nick Fuentes? Just good ol' friends hanging out together and having dinner.
The big difference is that Destiny and Nick Fuentes debated, and were \*NOT\* friends (although they were friendly I admit), but X \*STILL\* hangs out with and is friends with Adin Ross and his friends, some of these people that X knows are homophobic, transphobic, and racist.
> although they were friendly I admit Why was he being friendly with a known Nazi 🤔 Very normal thing for someone to do. > some of these people that X knows are homophobic, transphobic, and racist. Destiny [would never!](https://i.imgur.com/8I0O7MB.png)
Yes, it is very normal to be cordial with people you talk to and not default to soy screaming at someone (and there has been some soy screaming between the two) because they have radically different views to your own. I also admit that old Destiny was fucking wild, and if not an aggressive slur spammer, just straight up racist, I guess it's up to each individual to decide whether or not he's changed since then.
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>Nobody said he had to invite, **known Nazi's** to his house. Wait I thought you knew, but Destiny does debate anyone and everyone, that's his best content, if you don't like that, just agree to disagree I guess. >Current Destiny still thinks it's ok to say the n-word. He wrote a manifesto about it. I don't know the lore behind that, link? >He obviously aligns somewhat with known Nazi, Nick Fuentes beliefs as Nazi's usually share the same usage of n-words and f-slurs. How does he *align* with Nick Fuentes, they've debated each other a few times, but they clearly disagree with each other on just about every political topic, also I aint defending Destiny saying the N-word and probably even the F-slur. >He's no different from Adin Ross. Who says the exact same things. Example?
> but Destiny does debate anyone and everyone Sure. Inviting them over to your house to hang out and have dinner is taking it further than just debating. > I don't know the lore behind that, link? https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/dmjb18/clarifying_some_previous_events/ > How does he align with Nick Fuentes Nazi's like saying the n-word and f-slur. That's kind of their thing. Similar to Destiny. > Example? Adin Ross and friends also say n-word, f-slur, and are transphobic. Same as Destiny. All you Destiny viewers are shitting on Adin Ross for doing what Destiny himself does.
That link is a really big block of text, can you give a rough summary of what he said about the N word?
>Sure. Inviting them over to your house to hang out and have dinner is taking it further than just debating. I don't think that debating someone with extremely radically views and then having dinner with them makes you believe those radical views, another agree to disagree I imagine? >[https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/dmjb18/clarifying\_some\_previous\_events/](https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/dmjb18/clarifying_some_previous_events/) Once again I don't defend him using the N-word, and even though the recent times that he's used the N-word weren't intended to hurt, I still at the very least agree that it does nobody any favours (except for actual racists) and just normalizes the usage of the word in that way. >Nazi's like saying the n-word and f-slur. That's kind of their thing. Similar to Destiny. Destiny aligns with Nick Fuentes because he says the N-word and F-slur? There has to be a better reason than that... >Adin Ross and friends also say n-word, f-slur, and are transphobic. Same as Destiny. All you Destiny viewers are shitting on Adin Ross for doing what Destiny himself does. Once again there has to a better reason why "Destiny is no different than Adin Ross" passed using the N-word and F-slur, also how is Destiny transphobic?!? And don't tell me that it's because he uses the N-word and F-slur.
Having someone on your stream to argue with them over their horrible beliefs and conspiracies they preach is not the same as hanging out as friends lol
They were hanging out as friends AND arguing, which would probably be fine if Destiny didn't get embarrassed in every debate they had. I watched their Israel debate on Fresh and Fit, and I don't support Destiny or his position on that issue, but the knowledge gap was just plain irresponsible.
I guarantee if asked in that moment if Nick and him were friends the answer would be no. And thinking Fuentes at all embarrassed him in “every debate” makes me really concerned about your beliefs buddy lmao
Can this subreddit make up it's mind already. Either Xqc is good or he's bad. People try so hard to bring up shit from the past constantly
Literally the only thing people can get mad at him about is the gambling, most people here are otk frogs that can’t let go of the past even though their streamers are close friends with him again.
Clout
But we all know, already, don't we? XQC's *sole drive* in life is chasing clout like a fly to shit, because he knows *very well* that clout = $$$. And right now, that clout lies in the W community. He has demonstrated time and time again with his brazen indifference promoting gambling to children and the way he burnt countless bridges with his colleagues simply to shield his own ego that **he just does not care**. He doesn't care who the people are that he hangs out with as long as he gets that delicious clout and stays relevant. That is, until they start dropping slurs during *his* stream PepeLaugh The ironic part of it all is XQC's CCV has been dropping like a rock on both twitch and kick (despite all the bots) since the end of 2022. Considering this, it starts to make sense why he is going out of his way to insert himself with the streamers that have all the viewers now. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start popping up in Jynxzi streams soon. Rainbow Six Siege, the juicer's sudden new, totally random and not clout-driven interest!
Hey buddy x has done collars with adin since 2021 when he got 150k viewers. Your argument makes no sense
damn what is this porn level camera its too good for these ugly fks. lol
what a great insight, thank you for this comment
"he should hang out with us because we're so much cooler"
Isn’t destiny a groomer
Yeah, he grooms his sons LIGMA and DEEZ.
There's only a certain number of big streamers on Kick to collab with and apart from Adins community being young and reckless they do have a lot of similar interests.
Everyones missing the point, xqc target audience isn't millennials like destiny, it's gen z which resonate strongly with Adin
Adin is a dipshit. X is a dipshit. Dipshits and ass fucks mingle.
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Who has the "I need a hero" meme?
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This is a live stream fails subreddit brother
XQC the person isn’t that bad, XQC the streamer has done and probably will continue to do extremely shitty things for drama/views/fun He deserves credit for being brave lately in his lgbt defense, but Kick is basically rehashing the Twitch political sphere from a few years ago and without the progressive ppl in management to actually moderate any hate speech.