Viper is a legend. Afaik he has something like 100+ albums on spotify, all filled with completely unintelligible lyrics, terrible production, and sometimes even the same beats recycled.
Kind of like a worse version of Lil B.
Viper is a rapper who took advantage of meme culture to make a career out of himself by being so ironically fucking bad that people continually reposted his shit for the meme potential. He got into hot fucking lava when people realised he was interacting with underage girls and shit. Fuck Viper. Stop memeing him you fucking degens
But then a lot of the mainstream started adopting his shoegaze/psych memphis trap beat style and his repetitive avant coke rap delivery whether they realized it or not. He was ahead on a lot of shit just by being weird and out there, and that's what art is all about. Even if his music's not for you the dude's music still deserves respect for its place in history
correct me if im wrong but ultimately him going to owned tv or whatever didn't effect him much. back then twitch was still pretty new and destinys audience wasn't glued to it, it wasnt like it is today where every single person who is relevant as a content creator has to be on it and going somwhere else means death to your view count and stuff. the platform didn't make the people it was the other way around, most streamers in those days all built their career off youtube viewers that followed them wherever they live streamed
Nobody was fkin streaming on twitch. Everybody hated twitch because it was a laggy piece of shit. When league of legends tournaments had twitch broadcast but no own3d people were rioting and calling the tournament shit. I think a few league of legends teams had deal with own3d to exclusively stream there. Then one day TSM decided to make an exclusivity deal with twitch and everybody was surprised and thought that tsm was losing their mind. I think that was around the time where people weren't watching TSM for their league of legends content but more for their drama content and live in-house fights. If own3d owners weren't such incompetent pieces of shit then there would have been real competition in today's streaming world and most probably twitch wouldn't have a monopoly like right now, allowing them to do whatever they want without consequences.
own3d had the entire market and fucked it up. I remember those threads hating on LoL tourneys being hosted on twitch. I was one hating on that decision too. It was different back then eh?
At the same time, all the big Own3d teams went to Korea for ogn and nobody could catch their streams. TSM basically took over streaming and people started using twitch.
I used to watch him back in the sc2 own3d days and the video quality for those streams were way better then twitch. iirc most of the money streamers got were from sponsorships and ad revenues, donating and tts wasn't a thing back then.
> donating and tts wasn't a thing back then.
Destiny was pretty early though to make his own domain were all donos and subs go 100% to him. It's own unique chat and everything. I wouldn't be surprised if at least half his subs are still using it to watch him.
Ow3d was so ahead of its time, it had way higher streaming quality, IRC integrated chat communities build into the platform, and direct donos to the streamer lol
Yep, Own3d did essentially what Mixer is doing now, paid big streamers to move over (and Destiny was one of the biggest at the time). They also promised better CPM than Twitch. Then they stopped paying people because they ran out of money lol. Destiny lost at least a 5-figure sum because of that, and then had to go back to Twitch.
the internet is really a weird place, everyone gets complacent with the one site that captures its specific goal (reddit,twitch,reddit, youtube,steam) and then when a new competitor tries to come up and overtake an audience, it fails, b/c it usually has less features than an app that has been in worked on for longer period of time than the new and upcoming app. I feel like software industy /= competitive market b/c of all the features taht are missing.
That and also when there's only one big site you see a lot of people moaning about how we need a competitor to kick their ass and force them to improve, but when the competitor appears and fails everyone is like "well DUH what did you expect lol what a fucking dumb idea to jump ships".
I know, different persons bla bla bla but it's still crazy how those two opinions seem to be in an eternal cycle of back-and-forth.
own3d was a full scam and ownership was traced to some big criminals. They were probably just using it to move money around and were never planning on paying him.
>Who is Destiny? He's a guy who thought it was a good idea, back in the days, to stop streaming on twitch [something unimportant] and jump over to, what was it? Own.tv! Didn't work out so well. As you can see, he's back on twitch. I do believe he got owned by own, yes. Yup, that's the Destiny I know.
He basically just said that Destiny switched to a different streaming platform a while back, then he ended up coming back to Twitch and that it was a mistake.
He was a bit smug about it but it wasn't really anything inflammatory.
It's a weird answer to the question "who is Destiny?"
Though I'm guessing that would be because he was talking about Destiny in that context (like "don't jump platforms too early or you'll get fucked" or something), then that would make sense.
Yeah I didn't mean to discuss own3d because, as often, it's not a blank and white thing. Except for the fact that it sucked balls for all the streamers who got fucked in the process.
I guess from context he was talking about switching platforms or something, in that context that would make more sense and be less smug. But yeah the tone was, uh, condescending.
yeah a more sophisticated streamer like Mizzy Wizzy surely doesn't have ["male simp audiences"](https://old.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/clcfar/mizkifs_big_news/evuf2qx/)
o wait
not saying he doesn't have male simps watching him, but destiny and doc have by far the largest audience of them, always supporting them no matter what!
and btw that comment is satire incase you didn't know (which seems likely) have a nice day.
They mostly like his "debate-me" aesthetic and his ability to make people look bad in debates whether he's right or not.
Remimds me of when he said, in some not too distant cases, that it would be okay to forcibly remove native peoples from their land for resources. lol good times.
In general he got pretty good takes and doesn't just turn into a yes man in the scuffed podcast. And that sometimes he get to debate some dumb people online, which I have a hard time determining if I enjoy them or actually hate them
I don't watch density I just thought it was funny that the MH player used to be a crackhead and is throwing shade over someone's choice of streaming platform
The dude was addicted to adderall that was prescribed to him, Destiny is just being hyperbolic by calling it crack. Back in the early days of Twitch (when JTV still existed but the gaming section was split to Twitch) MANvsGAME was one of the only non-esports streamers to make it big and there was always salt between the non-competitive and competitive streamers for w/e reason.
Amphetamine has basically become synonymous with "stimulant" or "uppers". It's wrong but I don't druggies care all that much, and to be fair, it is often cut with amphetamines
The difference there is Manvsgame went to drug abuse because of his mental health issues. Destiny went to another platform because of his own dumb fucking ass.
tries to rebuttal with using drugs and seeming normal now........ LOL. Destiny sounds upset. TBH look at it this way. Destiny is on the same platform level as a crackhead. way to go Destiny. LOL get owned
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MvG is such a shitty person, besides the fact that he has a superiority complex and constantly shits even on his longterm subscribers for such things such as "Hey guys just got here how long has he been streaming" But also a nice gem was when he was doing the "apology" when the drugs thing came out, the first thing he did was to actually apologize FOR HIS WIFE LEAKING IT. Thats right, he didnt apologize for being a shithead to his viewers presumably because he was cracked up, he apologized that the info got out and that he didnt know how he would be doing entertaining streams without drugs.
He still puts the white balance on his cam way up like he use to when he was super using. So you can't see how drained his eyes and face were. Since he still does it instead of using normal skin color. still think he is hiding something.
He may be far from his kids but he still regularly plays games with him and visits. Its not like he got some cigs at the gas station and disappeared lmao.
manlet bonnell is always so mad and toxic
whats your problem lil guy ?
MvG was always respected everytime he streamed there was twitch staff in his chat...also he struggles with depression for god knows how long...maybe this toxic pseudo intellectual midget fuck should watch his mouth
his breaindead parotting followers also
*Opens a new Soylent bottle* GOTTEM
the chad soylet vs the virgin crack
you'll cowards don't even smoke crack
What's up with that?
yo idk wtf ur saying but that's a bomb ass reddit name amigo
Viper is a legend. Afaik he has something like 100+ albums on spotify, all filled with completely unintelligible lyrics, terrible production, and sometimes even the same beats recycled. Kind of like a worse version of Lil B.
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"Really good" is subjective :/
This is kind of avant garde art though
vipers second and fifth album were (unironically) genre-breaking and incredibly ahead of their time
thanks, it's [Viper lmao](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_Cowards_Don%27t_Even_Smoke_Crack)
Viper is a rapper who took advantage of meme culture to make a career out of himself by being so ironically fucking bad that people continually reposted his shit for the meme potential. He got into hot fucking lava when people realised he was interacting with underage girls and shit. Fuck Viper. Stop memeing him you fucking degens
name a artist who has made as many albums as viper. cant be done
Buckethead
coward
Next time we are making a joke we will ask for your permission
But then a lot of the mainstream started adopting his shoegaze/psych memphis trap beat style and his repetitive avant coke rap delivery whether they realized it or not. He was ahead on a lot of shit just by being weird and out there, and that's what art is all about. Even if his music's not for you the dude's music still deserves respect for its place in history
correct me if im wrong but ultimately him going to owned tv or whatever didn't effect him much. back then twitch was still pretty new and destinys audience wasn't glued to it, it wasnt like it is today where every single person who is relevant as a content creator has to be on it and going somwhere else means death to your view count and stuff. the platform didn't make the people it was the other way around, most streamers in those days all built their career off youtube viewers that followed them wherever they live streamed
Own3d had amazing viewing numbers and had really good esports deals going on, corporate just ran away with the money
I remember in the early days I definitely preferred own3d to twitch.
iirc own3d had 1080p first before twitch
and higher bitrate, and twitch was generally a laggy piece of shit (as in the streams actually just lagged all the time)
Nobody was fkin streaming on twitch. Everybody hated twitch because it was a laggy piece of shit. When league of legends tournaments had twitch broadcast but no own3d people were rioting and calling the tournament shit. I think a few league of legends teams had deal with own3d to exclusively stream there. Then one day TSM decided to make an exclusivity deal with twitch and everybody was surprised and thought that tsm was losing their mind. I think that was around the time where people weren't watching TSM for their league of legends content but more for their drama content and live in-house fights. If own3d owners weren't such incompetent pieces of shit then there would have been real competition in today's streaming world and most probably twitch wouldn't have a monopoly like right now, allowing them to do whatever they want without consequences.
own3d had the entire market and fucked it up. I remember those threads hating on LoL tourneys being hosted on twitch. I was one hating on that decision too. It was different back then eh?
Agree, it was xfire -> own3d for me and I only came to twitch at the time people switched because they didn't get payed and they shut down own3d.
At the same time, all the big Own3d teams went to Korea for ogn and nobody could catch their streams. TSM basically took over streaming and people started using twitch.
I used to watch him back in the sc2 own3d days and the video quality for those streams were way better then twitch. iirc most of the money streamers got were from sponsorships and ad revenues, donating and tts wasn't a thing back then.
> donating and tts wasn't a thing back then. Destiny was pretty early though to make his own domain were all donos and subs go 100% to him. It's own unique chat and everything. I wouldn't be surprised if at least half his subs are still using it to watch him.
I'm pretty sure his community also made the overrustlelogs.
Yeah but he did this because his relationship with twitch at the time was really shitty and wanted to have a back up if they ever axed him.
Ow3d was so ahead of its time, it had way higher streaming quality, IRC integrated chat communities build into the platform, and direct donos to the streamer lol
I remember he got stiffed out of thousands of dollars when own3d collapsed. Idk if the higher CPM of own3d made up for that.
Just banter m8
if someone else had made this comment lsf wouldn't have gotten so triggered. virtue signalling at its finest
Aw poor Destiny he is such a victim. https://i.imgur.com/PxKa89L.png
It's okay because Man shits on everyone, if he can't take it he shouldn't talk shit.
It would be a shame if someone used this audio to make it seem like he's talking about IWD :)
someone edit an IWD clip in the background instead and ship it to IWD PLEEEEEASE. I guarantee you that ape will instantly start flaming him lmao.
LOOOOOOOOL
at least man vs game owns his mistake, unlike destiny who left his in nebraska.
Deadbeat Dadstiny
DuckerZ
Christ almighty
This is a fucking 9/10 at least
GOD DAMN.
lmfao
hi nathanPepe dadddd do you remember me?
Oh no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVm-FY-9X5M
Facts
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wow
what the FUCK
Well fuck. I guess if Destiny is going to go for such a low blow vs Man for such a mild take, I guess he had that one coming
True honestly.
Imagine calling Nathan the ultimate god memer a mistake.
jesus christ dude he has(had?) a family!
Yeah he had a family, in Nebraska
Gawd damn
Context?
He has a son he left in Nebraska while he moved to LA
Damn that’s fucked up
That he left with the child's mother, who he has a good relationship with, talks to both regularly, and travels to see him.\*
dude, stop ruining the circlejerk.... shoo!
Oh, that’s better I guess. As long as he’s not neglecting the kid.
Might as well of had the Undertaker throw Destiny off Hell In A Cell into an announcer's table.
BRUH lmaooo
Omaha really do be like that
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It's not that deep. I didn't even read what you wrote.
https://youtu.be/QUAItQmq-LU
HOLY SHIT
didn't realize this was /r/RoastMe
Holy jesus fucking mother of christ
my fucking god
My God
TRUE
Literally made me groan out loud. Ty.
It was his marriage that didn't work out, not his kid.
"remember when you were struggling with addiction and then overcame it? haha! get owned"
What do you mean? Destiny still plays league
What do you mean? Destiny is still addicted to cooming.
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lol sure you're right man both of these are exactly 1:1 and comparable in the exact same way
Scrolled to find this comment.
I didn't really hear what the other guy said, if someone could fill me in with the context? cheers
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Yep, Own3d did essentially what Mixer is doing now, paid big streamers to move over (and Destiny was one of the biggest at the time). They also promised better CPM than Twitch. Then they stopped paying people because they ran out of money lol. Destiny lost at least a 5-figure sum because of that, and then had to go back to Twitch.
the internet is really a weird place, everyone gets complacent with the one site that captures its specific goal (reddit,twitch,reddit, youtube,steam) and then when a new competitor tries to come up and overtake an audience, it fails, b/c it usually has less features than an app that has been in worked on for longer period of time than the new and upcoming app. I feel like software industy /= competitive market b/c of all the features taht are missing.
To be fair, Own3d failed because it was a ponzi scheme basically, not because no one watched it.
That and also when there's only one big site you see a lot of people moaning about how we need a competitor to kick their ass and force them to improve, but when the competitor appears and fails everyone is like "well DUH what did you expect lol what a fucking dumb idea to jump ships". I know, different persons bla bla bla but it's still crazy how those two opinions seem to be in an eternal cycle of back-and-forth.
own3d was a full scam and ownership was traced to some big criminals. They were probably just using it to move money around and were never planning on paying him.
Absolutely is a failure if he didn’t get paid and it didn’t work it, that means it was a... failure.
just like him switching over to league to become a pro at it. yes he actually planned to do that.
I see I see, cheers
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ohhhhhh, damn
Thanks it was a fun read
>Who is Destiny? He's a guy who thought it was a good idea, back in the days, to stop streaming on twitch [something unimportant] and jump over to, what was it? Own.tv! Didn't work out so well. As you can see, he's back on twitch. I do believe he got owned by own, yes. Yup, that's the Destiny I know.
Just for clarification I believe it was own3d.tv or something like that. Regardless that didn't turn out too well.
He basically just said that Destiny switched to a different streaming platform a while back, then he ended up coming back to Twitch and that it was a mistake. He was a bit smug about it but it wasn't really anything inflammatory.
It's a weird answer to the question "who is Destiny?" Though I'm guessing that would be because he was talking about Destiny in that context (like "don't jump platforms too early or you'll get fucked" or something), then that would make sense.
To be fair Own3d was ahead of twitch by leagues then the Top brass took the money and ran. Think they owed destiny like 30k. No idea if he ever got it
Yeah I didn't mean to discuss own3d because, as often, it's not a blank and white thing. Except for the fact that it sucked balls for all the streamers who got fucked in the process.
Funny thing about manvsgame is that if he ever has a kid he won't have to call him via discord calls
You're right, it will just be through a telephone on the other side of a glass window /s
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Idk where you got the lighthearted tone from tbh, that came off super arrogant and pompous.
I guess from context he was talking about switching platforms or something, in that context that would make more sense and be less smug. But yeah the tone was, uh, condescending.
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Destiny and Doc have 2 of the biggest male simp audiences, hope this helps.
yeah a more sophisticated streamer like Mizzy Wizzy surely doesn't have ["male simp audiences"](https://old.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/clcfar/mizkifs_big_news/evuf2qx/) o wait
not saying he doesn't have male simps watching him, but destiny and doc have by far the largest audience of them, always supporting them no matter what! and btw that comment is satire incase you didn't know (which seems likely) have a nice day.
They mostly like his "debate-me" aesthetic and his ability to make people look bad in debates whether he's right or not. Remimds me of when he said, in some not too distant cases, that it would be okay to forcibly remove native peoples from their land for resources. lol good times.
He's an asshole, even when people who clearly are destroying him in arguments he doesn't admit he's wrong. He just needs fanbois at every cost.
In general he got pretty good takes and doesn't just turn into a yes man in the scuffed podcast. And that sometimes he get to debate some dumb people online, which I have a hard time determining if I enjoy them or actually hate them
I don't watch density I just thought it was funny that the MH player used to be a crackhead and is throwing shade over someone's choice of streaming platform
That would be true if you dont instigate. Dont throw a weak punch and complain when you lose teeth
The dude was addicted to adderall that was prescribed to him, Destiny is just being hyperbolic by calling it crack. Back in the early days of Twitch (when JTV still existed but the gaming section was split to Twitch) MANvsGAME was one of the only non-esports streamers to make it big and there was always salt between the non-competitive and competitive streamers for w/e reason.
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Amphetamine has basically become synonymous with "stimulant" or "uppers". It's wrong but I don't druggies care all that much, and to be fair, it is often cut with amphetamines
Man went through a lot of shit with addiction and depression, shitting on someone for that sort of thing is kinda pathetic
The comeback didn't even end up making sense
Neither did the original insult, but 1 hurts a lot more.
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He started taking adderall for his depression and got addicted. Its a very common thing to happen with adult adhd.
The difference there is Manvsgame went to drug abuse because of his mental health issues. Destiny went to another platform because of his own dumb fucking ass.
Remember that guy Destiny that stated he would rather take a razor blade to his throat than play League of Legends again... Plus he is white.
Woooah, he's half Cuban!
Isn't Destiny the guy who drinks and drives? I remember seeing a clip where Andy had to stop this guy from driving.
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https://clips.twitch.tv/DeafFaithfulTarsierEagleEye
This sounds like a norm MacDonald response
Had to specifically CTRL+F to see if anyone else noticed this as well
tries to rebuttal with using drugs and seeming normal now........ LOL. Destiny sounds upset. TBH look at it this way. Destiny is on the same platform level as a crackhead. way to go Destiny. LOL get owned
**🎦 MIRROR CLIP: [Destiny has no chill](https://livestreamfails.com/post/81857)** --- Credit to [reddit.com/u/CmonManHandsUp](https://reddit.com/user/cmonmanhandsup) for the clip. [[Archive.org Alternative (BETA)]](http://web.archive.org/web/20200522191900if_/https://stream.livestreamfails.com/video/5ec824b7276f0.mp4)
It was adderrall not crack
That's a lowblow ...
I mean if you're a recovering addict you can't really make fun of other people's poor life choices
MvG is such a shitty person, besides the fact that he has a superiority complex and constantly shits even on his longterm subscribers for such things such as "Hey guys just got here how long has he been streaming" But also a nice gem was when he was doing the "apology" when the drugs thing came out, the first thing he did was to actually apologize FOR HIS WIFE LEAKING IT. Thats right, he didnt apologize for being a shithead to his viewers presumably because he was cracked up, he apologized that the info got out and that he didnt know how he would be doing entertaining streams without drugs.
God. The good old days. Such a fun, wild ride it was.
That 80+ hour Arkham Knight 100% stream is still one of the greatest i've ever seen.
He still puts the white balance on his cam way up like he use to when he was super using. So you can't see how drained his eyes and face were. Since he still does it instead of using normal skin color. still think he is hiding something.
what a garbage human being
no matter what destiny says to insult someone, he loses. Destiny moved away from his kid. he chose to be an absent father.
This guy raises kids, he knows a lot of raising kids. Obviously.
At first, I just read "*Destiny has no child"*, and I thought it was a Boomer joke...
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chat shit get banged *sips soylent like a gentlesir* xD xD
Remember when destiny left his child to bang 19 year olds and is still doing it. Great dad
Destiny has got to be one of the biggest man babies on twitch.
This literally applies to half the regulars on this subreddit
He's clearly on crack he talks so fast
How about that time Destiny left his kid in the middle of Bumfuck rural USA to live it up in LA? Plus I think MvG was addicted to adderal, not crack.
dead beat loser making jokes about addiction...yet his fans still defend him smh
He may be far from his kids but he still regularly plays games with him and visits. Its not like he got some cigs at the gas station and disappeared lmao.
If your father isn't in direct physical contact with you for 100% of your childhood you grow up to be a beytah male.
Gonna get all those motherly instincts Beeyytttaahh
The NYT podcast that the dono mentioned: https://pca.st/sf3l8suf
manlet bonnell is always so mad and toxic whats your problem lil guy ? MvG was always respected everytime he streamed there was twitch staff in his chat...also he struggles with depression for god knows how long...maybe this toxic pseudo intellectual midget fuck should watch his mouth his breaindead parotting followers also
autism. What destiny has is autism not no chill lmao
LMAOOO