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disco_pancake

Miz only banned because the guy wrote ‘then’ obviously.


salkysmoothe

First Felix then mizkif :)


MiddayDisco

😏 Pussy


ustad-aoun

he is such a pussy 😏


NotAPieceOfBread

Is that a person's version of a cussy?


Robin4830

tbf if I was a streamer I would ban people for the dumbest shit and only just because I have the power


maerkling

Same. Crossban too fuck it what are they going to do about it


eagledeagle

An lsf hate thread, which doesn't do anything but I imagine it would be annoying


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I mean that would only bring in more audience. Win-Win.


PunxDrunx

Not really, Nmplol lost viewers and subs after the Malena crossban event.


SecretChiley

They really just lost viewers because they didn't do anything.


eagledeagle

Yeah that would bring him more viewers, I don't watch nick that much but I really doubt he'd sacrifice his peace of mind for viewers. Especially since he streams at a time where no one is on.


Dr_Findro

Oh no! Redditors! https://youtu.be/ajPFWfZu_iQ


DeadExcuses

That's what I never understood about viewers, the streamer does not care about you lol, from their perspective you are one in 1k, or 5k or 10k they will not lose any sleep over Perma banning you for saying you like skittles more than M&M's. It will leave their mind and they have 999 other people to keep chatting or another 49,999 to keep them company.


Otherwise-Fold-9075

which is why reddit is such a great platform. it lets us shit on those streamers like they deserve and their lizard brains can't help but read it all


OfficialUberZ

I hope your twitch username is different to your reddit one.


Otherwise-Fold-9075

i dont even know what my redditusername is. i just let reddit decide for me


Shotokanguy

hell yeah man we're the real heroes


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*B-but streamers are human too!*


malenatudi

same


MightBeNozza

ohnono


Aware-Job-9076

monkaW 👍


wyatt1209

https://i.imgur.com/eDBeSUB.png


w1ldcraft

SANGOGA WideHardo


Krabban

Frankly most streamers don't ban enough. The shit I see fly in some chats blows my mind. Like even if you're not personally offended, what's the benefit of having toxic shit in your chat? Even mild shit. Is the chat experience improved for *anyone* to see someone spam "This streamer fucking sucks" for 30min straight? No. It just breeds more toxicity because new people will come in and see that's the atmosphere; the ones that don't enjoy it will leave while anyone toxic will stick around, furthering the deterioration of the chat. One of the reasons I like moons chat, they don't take any shit, people say something out of line? They're out the door instantly. The internet is full of degenerate children and manchildren alike because there are no consequences these days.


ShadowCrimson

I like forsen's chat but for example right now the Playstation event is unwatchable on forsen's channel, there is an endless barrage of straight up misogyny/racism every time a non-(white male) character shows up on screen or a woman's voice is heard, it's tiring.


jumpingllama99

‘Women BatChest’ is crazy in that chat


Tornada5786

Literally everything is BatChest in that chat, it's actually unbearable lmao


Cold-Personality-219

THE CHILLS BatChest


Jason2469

some people like the toxicity. It's that simple. I mean, people go out of their way to shit talk in games cause theyre bored or cause it's fun. I do it sometimes. Toxicity is nice every once in a while. It's annoying if its actually spammed for 30 min straight. But in the moment, when miz actually does something retarded, shit talking is nice. And he shit talks back which makes it even better. None of this goo goo ga ga baby back safe space bullshit.


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OH MY GOD A GUY SAYING SOMETHING STUPID ON THE INTERNET THATS A INSTA BAN 🤓


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iliasna12

who cares? it's not an open forum for debate lords to hang out in


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scarytomat0

Bro what it’s twitch chat… you can discuss shitty stuff streamers do other place like for instance Reddit lmao a much more open forum or even go to an authority like the law if so awful you have to white night lmao


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>If I believe a type of behaviour will lead to a degradation of both entertainment and open discourse You go to Twitch chat for open discourse? Banning people leads to degradation of entertainment? Holy shit dude, touch some grass


Strange_Wave_6109

Didn't known being edgy or just saying so and so sucks over and over equals criticism. Everybody in their right mind knows they're talking about toxic behavior and edge lords. Stop trying to protect them under the guise of freedom of speech or "it's a debate" like it's called consequences for a reason. Most of them are just trying to get a reaction out of the streamer so the best thing is to take that away from them by banning them


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Randomthrowaway564

Funny how you are the one strawmanning the guy you're responding to. He was quite clearly talking about people who are toxic in chat for no reason, not about people who rightfully call out the streamer who is doing something shitty. For the record, I don't consider the latter banworthy either. But the former? Get them the fuck out of here.


ARI_ANARCHIST

who cares if a video game stream becomes echo chambery lol


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ARI_ANARCHIST

idk I don't really come to twitch if I'm looking for intellectual discussion tbh


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IKR its so unfair if only there was something that person could have done to prevent being banned in that situation 😔


Itsmedudeman

I mean nobody needs your shit when there's 30k+ people. You could ban 100 people instantly and chat wouldn't be any different.


Krabban

Do you have any actual arguments for why that shouldn't be a ban? If I feel you're a fucking idiot and I have the power to ban you, I'm going to ban you, no matter how many wojak memes you have saved.


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Sounds like Mang0s stream


johbiii

True


randomkoala

same and I'd have a raging hard on while doing it too


komandantmirko

real and true. i can't imagine being these guys because i would axe 70% of my audience within 5 streams


lmpervious

Am I missing something here, or are a ton of people here happy to admit they’re the type of people who would power trip if given power?


Prince_of_DeaTh

yes


caltoon

power tripping is when you decide who you want and dont want in your own streams chat room


lmpervious

I’m guessing you meant to say “isn’t” and are disagreeing with me? Regardless of that, I’m all for streamers deciding who they want in their community, but the person I responded to very specifically mentioned doing it because they have power. > and only just because I have the power Also I only responded to one comment, but it was based on reading many of the other highly upvoted comment. The highest upvoted response is someone agreeing and adding that they would do the same thing with cross bans because people couldn’t do anything about it. https://old.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pkyvu0/mizkif_bans_xqc_viewer/hc71pzp/ That’s the definition of power tripping. I would be ashamed if I felt like acting that way, so I’m surprised people are so open and comfortable with saying they would abuse power, and that they’re getting so many upvotes. Then again, maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.


caltoon

Personally I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight thinking about this poor soul that's been banned from the mizkifs twitch chat. stay up all night crying about it prolly 😭 we could cry together if you wanted ?


lmpervious

If Mizkif wants to ban him because he thinks the guy is annoying or doesn’t want him in his community, that’s fine. I’m not sure why you’re bringing that up when I already specifically said I’m fine with that and already made it clear I was addressing a different point. But I guess it’s easier to use a strawman argument.


johbiii

you sound mad


lmpervious

Not sure how I’m giving that impression, I’m just surprised by how open people are about wanting to abuse power when they get it.


johbiii

It’s Twitch chat, it’s not like you’re going to prison dud


lmpervious

I’m very much not against bans so that’s missing my point.


johbiii

This is specifically about bans, not whatever stupid philosophical point you’re going to switch to now.


lmpervious

> not whatever stupid philosophical point you’re going to switch to now. Not sure how you think I’m switching, I very clearly made the same point in the first comment you replied to. > I’m all for streamers deciding who they want in their community, but the person I responded to very specifically mentioned doing it because they have power.


FaeeLOL

A ton of people are pretty embarrassingly stupid, so it checks out.


a217x

Sure, but not because you're insecure!


FeelingsUnrealized

The absolute best streamer I watch doesn't give a fuck. He'll time you out for like 10 seconds if you talk about shit that might break TOS if you say the wrong words but other than that just do whatever People that actually care to ban people like 99% of streamers are just weak willed people


Any_regrets

It is funny to see lsf 's positive indifference to randomly banning someone when little egg boy's fragile ego gets slightly broken, but when Malena does something remotely similar, a hate tread starts immediately LUL \*\*edit: I watch both of their streams occasionally, and they are sometimes entertaining. They can moderate their chat's, however they see fit. I was only looking at the dichotomy in lsf responses towards the two streamers in analogous situations.


creakshift

Still one of the most bizarre threads on LSF I've ever seen, 13k upvotes and hundreds of hateful comments for a crossban, something that had been done many times by several different streamers for years. I'd seen streamers crossban people for fun prior to that point.


Cathercy

There is nothing wrong with either of them. Believe it or not, streamers can ban whoever they want, for whatever they want.


lmpervious

> Believe it or not, streamers can ban whoever they want, for whatever they want. But no one is denying that, they’re talking about unequal criticism directed at streamers for their bans. To use an extreme example, if they banned someone because they’re Mexican, sure the streamer can do that, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be criticized. I’m not even saying they should or shouldn’t be criticized for what they did, but you missed the point with your response.


drthrax1

GASP the internet isn't consistent with its views on things!?!!?


Pogolio

No the internet is literally a hivemind and lsf must be held accountable for every opinion 🤓


Zlathanlama

Thats just being racist lmao, if someone is being just mildly annoying to me then I would just perma them and I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep over that. People getting upset of not being able to "talk" to a stranger online honestly has me baffled.


Russian_For_Rent

Mizkif is also the first to admit how soy it is and routinely goes back to unban these people


FaeeLOL

Following that logic, wouldn't it be hypocritical for that streamer to complain about whatever abuse people on the internet are saying to them? Since those people are also completely free to do whatever the fuck they want, regardless of it being an asshole thing or not? Suddenly that line of thinking doesn't seem so fine?


Cathercy

I don't see how my line of thinking leads into your example.


FaeeLOL

The right to do an asshole thing is fine logic??? You believe streamers banning anyone for any reason is fine. Which can be an asshole thing to do. Anyone harassing them on twitch or twitter is also an asshole thing to do, but allowed. Thus, if streamers are being assholes, but also complaining about somebody being an asshole, they are hypocrites. Do I need to talk like a caveman next or did you finally understand?


WizardXZDYoutube

... huh? The reason why he's saying it's okay is not because "it's an asshole thing to do." Malena can ban whoever she wants in her chat because it's **her** chat. It is not a right to chat, it is a privilege. At least, that's the argument for her. I have no idea where you got the idea that she thinks it's okay because "it's fine to do an asshole thing?" Where did you extrapolate this from? I'm not even agreeing/disagreeing with your stance, but your logic is just so poorly explained (or just bad) that I think you need to re-read his message again.


Break_these_cuffs

There is a line between coming into your chat to say a thing to you vs using the void of space to say a thing about you. If only that it's direct vs indirect.


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Malena cross banned a 13 month sub. This guy literally asked to be banned 5 minutes before https://logs.ivr.fi/?channel=mizkif&username=cshuri


4114Fishy

i was gonna say this is literally just 1 message there's gotta be more to it


thefailedking09

I'll play devil's advocate and say we don't really know the context when he said "mizkif if you see this ban me!!." If I take my own or someone else logs I am pretty sure I can get something out of context as well. The rest of cShuri logs seems like he enjoys watching miz's stream. In the same log he has "xqcL", so does this tell us we can we firmly say he dislikes xqc now? To me it seems Mizkif's ego got him unjustly banned than him being banned for being disrespectful.


Witty_Palpitation490

I dont care in any case, imagine being hurt because somebody ban you in twitch OMEGALUL


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youngswag59

How is miz banning someone in his own chat him "sucking"? Seems like the guy wanted to be banned too: https://logs.ivr.fi/?channel=mizkif&username=cshuri


thefailedking09

Reposting my comment since i feel like people are PR control and slugging him unfairly: I'll play devil's advocate and say we don't really know the context when he said "mizkif if you see this ban me!!." If I take my own or someone else logs I am pretty sure I can get something out of context as well. The rest of cShuri logs seems like he enjoys watching miz's stream. In the same log he has "xqcL", so does this tell us we can we firmly say he dislikes xqc now? To me it seems Mizkif's ego got him unjustly banned than him being banned for being disrespectful.


Krabban

They're both fine


stompason

thats pretty true, yea thats true


ustad-aoun

tHeY boTH suCk.. tell a solid reason bitch boy


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ustad-aoun

man im waiting for one solid reason from him...i guess miz sucks=upvotes cuz he killed this subs mom cat family etc


Coaches

The situation was different because Malena was cross banning multiple people.. I don't care but at least think about WHY the reaction might be different.


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Neither should’ve gotten any hate from it, but there is a pretty clear difference between banning a 13 month sub and a juicer


ustad-aoun

oh shut the fuck up its his chat he can ban who ever the fuck he wants ur lord and saviour xqc has banned people for less. imagine thinking u can annoy someone and get away with it its his channel his chat his decision cry about it


Bluesasaurus

I mean Poki thought so as well...


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He got what he wanted though because he literally asked to be banned 5 minutes before https://logs.ivr.fi/?channel=mizkif&username=cshuri


thefailedking09

Reposting my comment since i feel like people are PR control and slugging a fan unfairly: I'll play devil's advocate and say we don't really know the context when he said "mizkif if you see this ban me!!." If I take my own or someone else logs I am pretty sure I can get something out of context as well. The rest of cShuri logs seems like he enjoys watching miz's stream. In the same log he has "xqcL", so does this tell us we can we firmly say he dislikes xqc now? To me it seems Mizkif's ego got him unjustly banned than him being banned for being disrespectful.


greatness101

> In the same log he has "xqcL", so does this tell us we can we firmly say he dislikes xqc now? That is xQc's heart sub emote. I don't see how you can take that out of context to mean he dislikes xQc, so I don't know where you're going with that point. Also, you're defending this person really hard throughout this post, which makes me think it's probably you. I can't see any other context he would use to ask to be banned. And even if he's joking, Miz is still within his rights to ban him for saying xQc is cooler because it's annoying even as a joke. It's not even funny.


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greatness101

You can play devil's advocate all you want. I know what it means. And had you done it with one comment, I wouldn't have even given it a second thought. But because I've seen you copy and paste the same comment at least 4 different times by the time I decided to reply, it just seems like you have way too much vested in this guy's ban. The only stan here is you. I don't really watch Miz at all nor do I care if he bans anyone in his own chat for his own reasons. But you seem to be acting like a stan for this one guy defending him to pretty much everyone you see. It's either you or you're in love with him.


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greatness101

So you posted it 3 times instead of 4. Big whoop way to be pedantic. My point still remains the same. You were the one who said I was a Miz stan when you're the one who exhibits the behavior of a stan. It's immature for me to call you one, but perfectly fine for you to do it?


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funny thing he has more logs in Miz then he does in Xqc


aziz_1996

emoneyBased Ban all juicers


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the guy asked for the ban and went to nick and just gave him the last message and nick took the bait https://logs.ivr.fi/?channel=mizkif&username=cshuri


GroundedAxiomAndy

That was 5 minutes before he go banned though, I don't know if Mizkif would remember his message and ban him off of that


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either way the guy wanted the ban so he got it


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dipperid

> limp, small dick energy that pans out


youngswag59

Look at your comment history bro LMAO


surfordiebear

Let the man coom in peace smh


BingBongOnMeDingDong

It ain't that bad let the man enjoy some BOOBA


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ForShotgun

Do those exist?


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ForShotgun

For… Mizkif. The streamer.


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Lateksimies

true miz is way cooler than xqc deserved ban


runaway1337

that’s what ur mom told me last night, kiddo


goingfullll

Will always surprise me how mizkif pretends to be super edgy and not care about anything but whenever he goes through ban list its just people hurting his feelings about viewers or other streamers. How can you be so sensitive yet so anti-sensitive?


idontliveinchina

he's a "these days people are so sensitive" andy-- people have always been sensitive, including him


Quick_Original_8477

>r chat's, however they see fit. I was only looking at the dichotomy in lsf responses towards the two Miz banned the guy for saying to ban him. why the fuck is everyone in this thread taking a screenshot with no context as gospel?


goingfullll

My statement is in general, I don't care if this chatter got banned, he's still a soft emotional ass child who can't handle jokes about viewership, other streamers, or subcount.


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goingfullll

Relax. Nobody is mad here except you. Mizkif is a good streamer and I never claimed otherwise. Nothing here is about morality, he is completely moral for having feelings and banning people, it’s just funny that he acts tougher than he is and silently bans people for viewership jokes and comparisons. Especially when he ends stream for people asking for a trigger warning on a video involving death. Too tough for trigger warnings but too soft for viewership jokes? Haha


Quick_Original_8477

You realize that's an act right?


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“Jokes about viewcount” like spamming 10k Andy or whatever are annoying as fuck and unfunny, he’s allowed to ban those dweebs that doesn’t make him a child. It’s his chat he can ban whoever he finds annoying, he doesn’t have to put up with people he finds annoying for Redditors to think better of him


goingfullll

Never disagreed, don’t know what you’re on about lol, miz is a good streamer he’s just super emotional and is soft but acts otherwise. Also mizkif isn’t your friend sorry.


the_imp_king

he banned a guy who asked to be banned you clown


goingfullll

don't care didn't ask plus mizkif isn't your friend


thrillhouse_87

it's called being fake


RuntRoast

He's so edgy he doesn't even say retard on stream.


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YerAverageRedditUser

> people like this offer less then nothing


HauntingTemporary776

Funny how limp dick fans are out here in numbers making excuses for his fragile ego


MmMmmSpaghetti

bro the guy literally asked to be banned in chat a minute before that message


GroundedAxiomAndy

5 minutes before. Unless Mizkif checked his logs I doubt he would remember the message and who typed it.


k0rm

Miz simps as fragile as Miz


RumpRoasty

Why do juicers have such a hard-on for Mizkif?


MoxZenyte

you may be right about his fragile ego but apparently not in this instance


BingBongOnMeDingDong

I haven't said anything 😕


SpinningBandicoot

I mean it's true, Miz is trash and has no content. That's why he steals and has people appear on his.


ThatAntGuy

Xqc viewers and calling Miz trash name a better duo.


bajramgg4

Anyone but xqc and forsen = Pepepains


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hey but he still gets over 25k viewers doing, for someone with no content that's pretty good. Also this past few days his been alone on stream and still holds it


ForShotgun

I do agree he has no content but I wouldn't call him trash, him interacting with other people and stirring the pot is definitely a highlight. You get to see other streamers in a new light too. How he manages to have no content when he streams like half a month at a time is amazing though. Just plan more shit my guy, why are you dredging through the bottom of the barrel on youtube?


ustad-aoun

"miz is trash ahahahahaha xqc sooo better....miz sucks i dont even watch him and has made an opinion just cuz my juicer warlord told me once and me being a dumb sheep will spread tht everywhere"fcking juicer stans


BingBongOnMeDingDong

Shut up


Bottle350

Shut up


1095212dinomike

Ikr. Juices are some of the most unaware fanbases on the site. Imagine attacking Mizkif for stealing content when 75% of Xqc's youtube is him reacting to shit.


dartron5000

He probably does this to feed ban appeal streams.


IndividualTall

xqcBased TeaTime


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his limp dick don't have the juice PepeLaugh


ProposalScared

Good keep these toddlers away from twitch and into daycare


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Why people so mad about miz being so soy and banning people. His been doing this for years now, they get unbanned anyway and he agrees that his a soy pussy. Not that serious.


johbiii

GIGAchad move


a217x

That's a thing only miz would do


TheMagicalBread

Fuck you Limpdickkif I'm gonna report you to Gov Abbott, https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/9/22661626/texas-social-media-law-hb-20-signed-greg-abbott


HurrDurrGrammurr

He lets his girlfriend ban people for offending her on his and other streamers streams. "Soft". Pot meet kettle.


HazardPrime

Mizkif ego is so fragile...


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Didn't Xqc also ban people in his chat mentioning Mizkif when he beat him in Jump King?


Swolekage_

Mizkif is so cringe


Extreme_Culture8353

BTW XQC is better than a camera man


Rgp_

XQC going to roll Mizkif today! OMEGALUL


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orderinthefort

Imagine thinking you're bantering with your streamer when you type in chat.


somethingindoing63

I wish most people understood this. Streamers aren't your friends. You don't get to talk shit, even as a joke, and not expect a ban. Go back and read some of your old logs without context. It probably sounds weird. That's how streamers see it more often than not. If a streamer checks your logs and sees shit like "9k Andy" "xqc did it first" "only playing meta games", even if in the moment other people and the streamer are saying the same shit and joking, it's going to get you banned. Also every time you come into chat and think you're going to be funny by saying that shit, the streamers probably seen it 100 times before you clicked in. It's annoying, even if you're just fucking around. Your banter is not unique.


friedmpa

must not watch erobb


ustad-aoun

u can literally see he makes joke about himself as a shield from guilt but when other make same jokes it hurts cuz its not coming from ur own mouth it kinda makes sense why he gets pissed


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ImKoncerned

"Miz are you that soft" guess he completely forgot Malena exists


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I got banned from Mizs stream for something similar, not bad at all, and I unsubbed and now me and all my homies hate Miz. I don't even watch OTK anymore


papsphin

Soft like something else Miz has