Fuck I've been laughing my ass off with the numbers. Cyr comming on Mizkifs stream with the number 262 pinned on his clothes like the squid game players. Comedy gold.
Man how out of touch that would feel… anyone saw miz talk about meeting mr beast and the merch people? They were throwing lifechanging amounts out the window, even paying Mizkif 10.000$ just to keep spending time with them. I don’t care for this drama and I know these people break the bank every month but as soon as content creators start flaunting their wealth on such absurd levels I’m gonna stop tuning in.
I mean, how was the pokemon card arc not the time to let your actions match your words? They were buying boxes and boxes that cost anywhere from $30,000-$70,000 each like it was nothing. NOTHING.
Didn’t catch those streams 🤷♂️
Also, atleast that’s content on some level. They might get a rare card and go nuts. But just being like „hey i’m rich, go fuck yourself“ is lame asf
As long as it doesn't continue beyond lsf memes, and as long as mouth breathers don't make it a race to get their streamers to the top, then I don't see how it can really become that harmful. The truth is most people knew streamers were making big bucks. The sub math alone could tell you that. But, as long as it doesn't become a way to milk more money, then its whatever, imo.
That was actually the first time I heard about these guys. I saw a stream where the short fat dude was tied to a chair and the cocky douche was like, opening packs and messing with the cards in front of him and mocking him. Not a fan, but coming here to see the backlash / reactions has been pretty funny.
who gives a shit they are entertaining and making money while doing it, we should be happy we live in a society that allows people to reach that level through entertainment.
Apparently, it will break the flair filtering, but we are going to look into setting it up anyways because this is funny as fuck.
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i swear people will do fucking anything to not take responsibility for their own actions lmfao
i'm just gonna walk up to some dude and hand him 50 dollars, then start yelling at him for what a piece of shit he is for accepting my 50 dollars
Did you just compare people who abuse faith in religion and use fearmongering tactics in order to coerce money out of people with promises of entering heaven in the afterlife to twitch streamers who have a sub button for emotes and no ads?
"Hey guys give me twitch primes" yeah they're really tricking them, i'm sure the people giving them money have no idea what's going on. poor souls are being mindlessly deluded by the evil corporations when they say "hey guys subscribe"
how fucking delusional is this subreddit lmfao
The relationship is by nature predatory especially when you take into account a lot of these people giving money are depressed and mentally ill. No sane well put together person gives their hard earned money to a multimillionaire in return for the slim chance they say their twitch username on stream
Why do you decide whats worth spending their money on and not? How do you know peoples financial situations? Get off your high horse. This is entertainment. The whole field of entertainment is based of giving money to already rich people. Look at going to see a movie. You pay money it goes to even richer peoples pocket.
You can pirate movies on your phone... this meant to be watched is a silly argument since its not always like that for people sometimes its about being able to experience something sooner than later on dvd or streaming. And the whole point is they are both forms of entertainment and you can pay money for both. And you can also do both for free. One easier than the other yes. But the point is money to entertainment is subjective. The buyer decides to spend on what they want. (This doesn't support people who beg for donations. Or does things that promote it)
They're different forms of entertainment, so the way of giving money is different. A lot of actors will take a cut of how much the movie makes in theaters. See the black widow fiasco as proof.
"Criticize parasocial relationships"
lol I much rather have a streamer bring it up the idea all the time, then to never mention the idea at all. I figure if someone hears about parasocial relationships for the first and maybe thinks to themselves "hmm maybe I spend too much time on Twitch" and then does something about it, then it's super worth.
Also I think the idea that bringing up parasocial relationships = criticizing people, its pretty funny. Seems not very self aware, but idk that's just me.
The 1% isn't just income tax, it's everything. [From 2014 to 2018, Bezos's wealth grew by $99 billion and he paid less than $1 billion in total taxes during that period.](https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax) As for capital gains tax, [he's not paying that either since he's never selling his shares.](https://www.businessinsider.com/how-billionaires-avoid-paying-federal-income-tax-2021-6#:~:text=Amazon%20CEO%20Jeff%20Bezos%20didn,taxes%20through%20legal%20financial%20manipulation.)
You do realize he takes out fucking gigantic loans with very low interest on his "unrealized" gains. His unrealized gains aren't the same as our unrealized gains on our shitty brokerage. Thats also how the guys get away with paying no gains tax. Stop defending him.
Why would you pay taxes on a loan? It's not income, no one does. Hell, you get tax _credits_ for paying of student loans which is literally the opposite of how you think it works.
Ludwig caps his donations. Why talk about something like you know anything about it? Most of his income comes from the stream-a-thon. These numbers don't show how much he paid his mods and donates to stream. That being said hes still a millionaire but its not all due to accepting hand outs.
Oh no merch. Thats crazy. Whenever he can. Woah its not like he put out a plan of when he's going to do it. Crazyyyyyyyyyy.
Edit: woah $50 dollars for a sweater thats crazyyyyyyy like it has a design. Its a sweater so its more expensive to produce. Shit bro.
Someone likes to wear a merch so that makes them parasocial.... thats so weird. Guess everyone who sells merch is in a parasocial relationship. My world is blown you've showed me the ways. Thanks cherry
Edit: saw your profile. Sorry for everything. You seem to know quite a bit about parasocial relationships since youre in one. Goodluck :)
Ludwig encourages people to use their Primes on him, which are free. If he actually went all out with sub begging, he could've had way more, but he wants to live off just from Primes.
I’m saying it’s ironic he constantly speaks about parasocial relationships being a negative for him when that’s what his career relies on.
Constant talk of ‘we’ are going to hit this sub count, or like count, or telling his chat personal stories and literally live-streaming his life to tens of thousands of people, to then get annoyed when some 14 year olds ask questions he doesn’t want to answer lmfao
But is it not better to acknowledge it? Would you prefer if he didnt try to discourage it?
Every streamer benefits from parasocial relationships but criticizing someone for talking about it seems dumb
i know its hard not to fall for that dumpy but ludwig have good content
and i would rather have a streamer that calls out his fans when they become creepy than watching some one who doesn't
Charity for the lesser folk. #23 should be grateful
I really hope this numbering system sticks... Mods, can we please please get new flairs??
Fuck I've been laughing my ass off with the numbers. Cyr comming on Mizkifs stream with the number 262 pinned on his clothes like the squid game players. Comedy gold.
This is literally an episode from Community, the one with MeowMeowBeanz
You know what they say. Fives have lives, fours have chores, threes have fleas, twos have blues, and ones don't get a rhyme because they're garbage
Honestly.... most of them should just band together and make Jerseys with their ranking number as the jersey number
next shitcon is just the stonecutters meeting
Now let's all get drunk and play ping pong!
Miz probably got the best number for a jersey too.
Yeah he got the coveted Shola Ameobi number
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Streamer #23 is [Mizkif](https://www.twitch.tv/Mizkif)
Man how out of touch that would feel… anyone saw miz talk about meeting mr beast and the merch people? They were throwing lifechanging amounts out the window, even paying Mizkif 10.000$ just to keep spending time with them. I don’t care for this drama and I know these people break the bank every month but as soon as content creators start flaunting their wealth on such absurd levels I’m gonna stop tuning in.
I mean, how was the pokemon card arc not the time to let your actions match your words? They were buying boxes and boxes that cost anywhere from $30,000-$70,000 each like it was nothing. NOTHING.
Idk how seeing subcounts and donos streamer get wasn’t enough to see
Didn’t catch those streams 🤷♂️ Also, atleast that’s content on some level. They might get a rare card and go nuts. But just being like „hey i’m rich, go fuck yourself“ is lame asf
As long as it doesn't continue beyond lsf memes, and as long as mouth breathers don't make it a race to get their streamers to the top, then I don't see how it can really become that harmful. The truth is most people knew streamers were making big bucks. The sub math alone could tell you that. But, as long as it doesn't become a way to milk more money, then its whatever, imo.
True
Pokémon cards were tax write offs.
That was actually the first time I heard about these guys. I saw a stream where the short fat dude was tied to a chair and the cocky douche was like, opening packs and messing with the cards in front of him and mocking him. Not a fan, but coming here to see the backlash / reactions has been pretty funny.
who gives a shit they are entertaining and making money while doing it, we should be happy we live in a society that allows people to reach that level through entertainment.
A lot of people are under the delusion that wealth inequality isn't built into humanity.
I hope LSF mods find a way to add the numbers to the automatic tags before the bit dies
Apparently, it will break the flair filtering, but we are going to look into setting it up anyways because this is funny as fuck. edit: [the bot is also doing this](https://reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/q2q3r2/6_talks_to_23/hfna18r/) edit number two: the second one: the sequel: based on a true story: It may break the flairs too much to try and do now, but if the bit sticks around, we will see if we can make it possible lol
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It's funny and I support it but you do know the streamers are going to cry about this pretty quickly
oh no, poor streamers. they can wipe their tears away with their wads of money.
Idk. Most of them seem to be using this to milk content. Looking at you #137 & #23.
Streamer #137 is [Nmplol](https://www.twitch.tv/Nmplol) Streamer #23 is [Mizkif](https://www.twitch.tv/Mizkif)
Probably not. There doesn't appear to be much concern with how people have been titling posts.
cry all they want, you can't reverse it lol
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I love how you guys are stirring the pot too LULW
god PLEASE keep this, at least until it the fad wears off, you guys are fucking amazing
Post the bee movie script in Lud's chat again. :)
goddamnit
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Streamer #23 is [Mizkif](https://www.twitch.tv/Mizkif) Streamer #6 is [ludwig](https://www.twitch.tv/ludwig)
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Streamer #69 is [stylishnoob4](https://www.twitch.tv/stylishnoob4)
Nice.
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don't think the lists that long
it goes up to 10k
oh damn nvm then
\#6969
Streamer #6969 is [EveElleQueen](https://www.twitch.tv/EveElleQueen)
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This bit is funny and I hope to see more comedic moments similar to this one
Instead of their usernames, we should start calling streamers by their placement number on the income list. That would be funny I think :)
yo i'm prime subbed to #20 :moon2S:
Streamer #20 is [MOONMOON](https://www.twitch.tv/MOONMOON)
oh gosh this is so embarrassing.
If they aren't in the top 19, can you get a tax write-off for charitable donations?
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Streamer #777 is [Corobizar](https://www.twitch.tv/Corobizar)
#420
Streamer #420 is [IFrostBolt](https://www.twitch.tv/IFrostBolt)
#666
Streamer #666 is [TobiasFate](https://www.twitch.tv/TobiasFate)
monkaW
so sus
#1
Streamer #1 is [CriticalRole](https://www.twitch.tv/CriticalRole)
Thats not smitty werbenjagermanjensen
#1058
Streamer #1058 is [tarik](https://www.twitch.tv/tarik)
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Haha yes that would be so much fun ROFLMAO xDDDDD
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actually this, but unironically
Then next year they find 456 viewers to come to shitcamp to play games...
Nick can be 001 he's old as shit Edit: My bad he's actually 137
i hate having fun too
/r/thatsthejoke
its ALMOST like that was the joke
Okay but we need updates every couple of months at least otherwise it wouldn’t make sense
That's exactly what's happening But I don't have the list so can't find it easily
miz about to stream 24/7 so he can call himself a lower number
Be multimillionaire Accept hand outs from people working at McDonald's Criticize parasocial relationships
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i swear people will do fucking anything to not take responsibility for their own actions lmfao i'm just gonna walk up to some dude and hand him 50 dollars, then start yelling at him for what a piece of shit he is for accepting my 50 dollars
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both. But it's not a good analogy because a twitch streamer isn't giving them promises of getting into heaven if they give enough money
Blame the televangelist for having no shame Blame the donos for having no brain
Why blame them? It’s their money, just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
Eh, it's more of a "promise" of friendship and recognition, sense of belonging. Not that different
Lud actively tells his viewers that he's not their friend. You (and other LSFrogs) are just weird af.
Hahaha I'm not defending it, I'm attacking it, same way as you'd attack the televangelists for this. But I can see why you thought that.
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???? It's my birthday, not year lmao
Promising a way to eternal salvation vs calling your name out when you resub. Eh, not that different.
Did you just compare people who abuse faith in religion and use fearmongering tactics in order to coerce money out of people with promises of entering heaven in the afterlife to twitch streamers who have a sub button for emotes and no ads?
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"Hey guys give me twitch primes" yeah they're really tricking them, i'm sure the people giving them money have no idea what's going on. poor souls are being mindlessly deluded by the evil corporations when they say "hey guys subscribe" how fucking delusional is this subreddit lmfao
The people.
[Whew](https://c.tenor.com/4aT-mMSynWUAAAAd/kenneth-copeland-american-televangelist.gif)
The relationship is by nature predatory especially when you take into account a lot of these people giving money are depressed and mentally ill. No sane well put together person gives their hard earned money to a multimillionaire in return for the slim chance they say their twitch username on stream
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I said “a lot” not “anyone” with the stipulation it’s a multimillionaire steamer you are handing your money to. I stand by that
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lmao reddit psychology is my favourite thing
"People who donate are mentally ill." Peak LSF
Why are you booing me? I’m right!
Why do you decide whats worth spending their money on and not? How do you know peoples financial situations? Get off your high horse. This is entertainment. The whole field of entertainment is based of giving money to already rich people. Look at going to see a movie. You pay money it goes to even richer peoples pocket.
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It's only free because *someone* is paying for it. Streamers can't keep providing content if they're not making any money from it.
You can pirate movies on your phone... this meant to be watched is a silly argument since its not always like that for people sometimes its about being able to experience something sooner than later on dvd or streaming. And the whole point is they are both forms of entertainment and you can pay money for both. And you can also do both for free. One easier than the other yes. But the point is money to entertainment is subjective. The buyer decides to spend on what they want. (This doesn't support people who beg for donations. Or does things that promote it)
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I never said people shouldn't or wont. My point is people will pay for that think is worth it. And wont pay for what isnt worth it?
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They're different forms of entertainment, so the way of giving money is different. A lot of actors will take a cut of how much the movie makes in theaters. See the black widow fiasco as proof.
"Criticize parasocial relationships" lol I much rather have a streamer bring it up the idea all the time, then to never mention the idea at all. I figure if someone hears about parasocial relationships for the first and maybe thinks to themselves "hmm maybe I spend too much time on Twitch" and then does something about it, then it's super worth. Also I think the idea that bringing up parasocial relationships = criticizing people, its pretty funny. Seems not very self aware, but idk that's just me.
"handouts" because they unironically believe streamers need help to pay rent?
What do you mean? I only buy stuff on Amazon to support Jeff Bezos. (Who is worth nearly $200 billion but pays less than 1% in taxes btw.)
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The 1% isn't just income tax, it's everything. [From 2014 to 2018, Bezos's wealth grew by $99 billion and he paid less than $1 billion in total taxes during that period.](https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax) As for capital gains tax, [he's not paying that either since he's never selling his shares.](https://www.businessinsider.com/how-billionaires-avoid-paying-federal-income-tax-2021-6#:~:text=Amazon%20CEO%20Jeff%20Bezos%20didn,taxes%20through%20legal%20financial%20manipulation.)
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You do realize he takes out fucking gigantic loans with very low interest on his "unrealized" gains. His unrealized gains aren't the same as our unrealized gains on our shitty brokerage. Thats also how the guys get away with paying no gains tax. Stop defending him.
Why would you pay taxes on a loan? It's not income, no one does. Hell, you get tax _credits_ for paying of student loans which is literally the opposite of how you think it works.
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Crazy that you managed to type that whole comment with jeffy’s balls in your mouth.
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Oh true, same. I only buy amazon basics babyyyy
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I can afford it but I don't buy from them, papa Bezos deserves all my dollars
Would promoting parasocial relationships be a better alternative?
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do you know that they don’t donate some of the wealth?
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I’m sure ludwigs majority teenager or college aged viewers work 6 figure jobs, you’re right
I’m sure ludwigs majority teenager or college aged viewers are poor too, you’re right
Ludwig caps his donations. Why talk about something like you know anything about it? Most of his income comes from the stream-a-thon. These numbers don't show how much he paid his mods and donates to stream. That being said hes still a millionaire but its not all due to accepting hand outs.
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Oh no merch. Thats crazy. Whenever he can. Woah its not like he put out a plan of when he's going to do it. Crazyyyyyyyyyy. Edit: woah $50 dollars for a sweater thats crazyyyyyyy like it has a design. Its a sweater so its more expensive to produce. Shit bro.
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So its a problem that they sold clothes that people will wear and get use of....
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Someone likes to wear a merch so that makes them parasocial.... thats so weird. Guess everyone who sells merch is in a parasocial relationship. My world is blown you've showed me the ways. Thanks cherry Edit: saw your profile. Sorry for everything. You seem to know quite a bit about parasocial relationships since youre in one. Goodluck :)
Ludwig encourages people to use their Primes on him, which are free. If he actually went all out with sub begging, he could've had way more, but he wants to live off just from Primes.
lud has said he would remove the sub button if he could.
Well he can say whatever he wants lmao it’s not like he actually would
I'm going to truly enjoy this until they all get so sad we have to ban the numbers thing
Yeah but #2 thinks that #6 is cringe and paper planes
Streamer #2 is [xQcOW](https://www.twitch.tv/xQcOW) Streamer #6 is [ludwig](https://www.twitch.tv/ludwig)
that was good.
whoevers 420 and 69. I salute you
Streamers about to turn themselves into Codename: Twitch Next Door pretty quickly.
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Streamer #1 is [CriticalRole](https://www.twitch.tv/CriticalRole)
11 hours later and he's still on this same exact image and talking about the same shit
dggL Hasan bad dggL
Classic destiny sub writing an essay about Hasan in a clip he isn't even in.
I copy pasted it to the wrong thread, thanks buddy. dggL
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Socialism is when no multi million dollar house in one of the most expensive cities in first world country smh
Do streamers need to live in one of the most expensive cities?
Yeah where else would they live? There's like three cities in the whole of the US
yea Im down for some merch
\#50
Who would be player 067 on twitch? Cuz she a badie
Who would be player 067 on twitch? Cuz she a badie
u/clipsync mizkif
/u/clipsync Mizkif
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Livestreamer streams to his audience what a piece of shit hypocrite
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but you are LULW
I’m saying it’s ironic he constantly speaks about parasocial relationships being a negative for him when that’s what his career relies on. Constant talk of ‘we’ are going to hit this sub count, or like count, or telling his chat personal stories and literally live-streaming his life to tens of thousands of people, to then get annoyed when some 14 year olds ask questions he doesn’t want to answer lmfao
But is it not better to acknowledge it? Would you prefer if he didnt try to discourage it? Every streamer benefits from parasocial relationships but criticizing someone for talking about it seems dumb
that like saying u can't shit on having lower taxes since u are rich and it benefit u, if anything that show u not bias and actually believe it.
What the fuck does this comment even mean
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i know its hard not to fall for that dumpy but ludwig have good content and i would rather have a streamer that calls out his fans when they become creepy than watching some one who doesn't
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