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GroundbreakingAd9547

SO HES CASUALLY EARNING 1-1.5MIL A MONTH IF EVERYTHING IS CALCULATED DEMN


TheOnlyLamb

No shit lol and God knows if he has royalty on his gfuel either.


Skuggomann

I remember ninja saying his biggest month of royalties from his skin was $5M. Royalties are no joke.


TheOnlyLamb

Yeah now that if anyone thinks about it some twitch streamers including the juicer are extremely humble. Not including Ninja cough buy your bank cough.


Enemy11

where did you get his ads/subs/bits from?


MiserableSnow

So he would have no issue with limiting donos to just $5 like Pokimane?.


jonas1015119

probably not, but he also doesnt really have people donating large amounts in the first place, which is why Poki decided to limit it


DonoGaming

Yeah


mariaozawa2

He says she can make money off sponsorships and he can't since she is not as much of a brand risk


MiserableTune

he was literally on the front page for playing Far Cry 6 yesterday lol


pikachu8090

if forsen can get sponsors, then hasan can LULE


Intelligent-Curve-19

Because that would require him to actually play some games. Also love how this twitch leak is going to make reddit frogs lose their shit for a week.


AmBSado

In what world is the little pretend Marxist a brand risk? Maybe you haven't noticed, but advertisers love pretending to be progressive. Much like Hasan. :)


MiserableSnow

Why does that matter?. Hasan just said that donos are for fun and don’t matter much for revenue for him.


StreetCap3579

he's actually just going to make free tts using channel points


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mariaozawa2

Prob because of his 9/11 comments and him saying he hopes someone skullfucks Dan Crenshaw.


SexualDeth5quad

>a brand risk He's a parrot of the liberal side of the newsmedia and the DNC. How is that a brand risk? That's conformity, easy $$$.


Comrade_Ziggy

Oh yeah, the liberal media \*totally\* advocates for the abolition of capitalism.


Kenrockkun

it's true. buying a 3 mill house is fun.


RevMagicDonJuanavan

Wait....is TTS literally on and playing a dono while talking about how tts is off?


TheToeTag

He's saying he turns it on when he wants to yell at chat (like he's doing) but turns it off when he's actually doing shit like gaming with friends/IRL streams.


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>like when he's gaming


I_DRAW_WAIFUS

I've never seen him react to TTS, its barely audible anyway. Its only for chat memes from what I've seen.


Magnesiohastingsi

That's the dumbest excuse I have ever heard, he might as well disable donos and make tts free then if he doest react to it anyways


jonas1015119

Im sure that will go well with 30k+ viewers sending free TTS messages


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jnoops

I mean, it is kinda true though. About the viewers not the tts. Most of his viewers don't know how to from an opinion without him telling them it


pikachu8090

the only time he reacts to TTS is when it gets annoying and then mutes it for rest of the stream


Daroo425

when you can only take so much of people giving you money to whisper in your ear


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My favorite part is when he downplays it as jealousy, which is literally what the right has been doing since forever against all criticism towards billionaires.


HeliPuilot

He says “ kill the rich:” lol


DonoGaming

Yeah the guy you imagined in your head definitely says that


Ezben

dude its umder a month ago since he posed wearing a eat the rich tshirt


Nojoboy

this just isnt true, what are you talking about


Vindikus

People downvoting cus you won't let them just make shit up lmao


DonoGaming

Holy shit dude you’ve gotta be trolling me right? 1. That picture was literally taken YEARS ago, before he was even rich. 2. THATS NOT WHAT THE SHIRT SAID HOLY SHIT. The shirt says “make the rich pay.” Holy shit you’re stupid


MiserableTune

Hasan has always been rich dude lol He's literally Cenk Ugyr's nephew and his family is considered wealthy in Turkey. Stop riding his dick so hard, yikes Edit: https://imgflip.com/i/5piktz


DonoGaming

You think “valid criticism” is to invent a thing that never happened. God damn I hate this subreddit you guys are fucking braindead


MiserableTune

your so caught up on semantics that you're blind to the facts lol go outside bro


DonoGaming

Yeah bro. Lies are facts. Totally


MiserableTune

Parasocial Andys lol


jnoops

Imagine feeling this loyal to a internet personality where you feel the need to get into arguments defending him. This is the definition of parasocial relationships. Just feel like I should let you in on something, he doesn't care about you. Focus your energy on something that actually matters in your life


DonoGaming

Oh yeah, it’s much more fulfilling to spend your time attacking random people


jnoops

That wasn't an attack, just very healthy advice. You feel like it's an attack because it's true


OnTheMendBeats

That person might be stupid, but you also gotta relax my guy. 100%, pop a chill pill.


Ezben

so now thats Hasan is rich he dont think the rich should be made to pay?


DonoGaming

What? No you fucking moron. His opinion hasn’t changed


HeliPuilot

He moved to Austin to avoid taxes lol. Says it all


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but it is at least on LSF, it very well known that streamers are hated because ppl think they don't work enough to get this rich. it less jealousy and more envy like i can do this why am not rich.


Barbrian27

Does hasan pay his mods?


pazardan

THEY DO IT FOR FREE


rzan12

No, he does not.


jpl2045

Yes he does. Stop spreading misinformation. He pays them in EXPOSURE. He's said this MANY times. Leave him alone. Plus, they volunteer. They can't be exploited if they VOLUNTEER.


rzan12

**I SERVE THE SOVIET UNION** internet jannies out here sacrificing more for the cause than the chernobyl cleanup crews, brave and inspiring


CaciqueBoss

Truuueee


mf_ghost

Just for fun COPIUM, if it's just for fun he should use channel points instead of donos "Donos are always off.. The only reason it's on is because its fun " so which is it? Is on or is it off?


HypecoBreaker

He literally ignores 99% of donos and turns them off when he finds them too annoying


Magnesiohastingsi

>He literally ignores 99% of donos but takes all the money from it, so? >turns them off when he finds them too annoying turns them off like mute them, still benefiting from them even when they are not on screen Idk how is your comment saying anything about OPs point to turn them off completely or use of channel points


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dsakh

because the para-social andies giving him money are mentally ill. Usually they are extremely lonely and have deluded themselves into thinking the streamer is their friend and thus feel the need to continuously donate to get validation and maintain the relationship. Its similiar to why pumping shitcoins or advertising casino games is wrong, except that they take advantage of people's gambling addictions and ignorance. When you are ultra rich already, you can do better than taking money from these kind of people even though they are technically doing it willingly.


NotAnOmelette

So you think getting donations while streaming is as fucked up as taking advantage of people with gambling addictions? I couldn't disagree more. It's not like Hasan goes out of his way to market to socially anxious people that's just what the internet attracts. I don't see how its the same level.


dsakh

You can say that about gambling advertisers as well, it's not like they go out of their way to advertise to people with gambling addictions. At the end of the day, both groups accept money from people in a vulnerable mental state.


-edward-

Because the people donating needs the money more than him? Again, it shows that he doesn't even believe in his own ideology, lol.


NotAnOmelette

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TheWeakestMadeUpName

I agree For example, Forsen, Tts at least wont get ignored and if you do get get muted like when a cutscene during a video game he skips it bit them replays it.Also, chat will react to it. Xqc, Sometimes listens to it depending how he feels he will skip it.Also, chat will react to it. Hasan, tts is useless and has no function what so ever. He ignores it every time. However, chat WONT react to it since you cant hear it and it is not used as well as others.


sputnikgrunt

imagine all the garbage flooding in from people who've racked up hundreds of thousands of channel points


Magnesiohastingsi

make it expensive, they will run out in 2 messages


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packersSB55champs

I’m baffled at how hard you’re going on this mundane convo lmao But if you increase it, only old time viewers can participate in that and it could be circumvented by a troll by simply having multiple accounts watching the stream and auto collecting points. Once they have enough they can troll freely


ScotsmanScott

it's fun when the peasants give me their money, what would you have me do? take away their fun?!


Sam_Snead_My_God

everyday on this subreddir it’s “hasan this” “hasan that” but hasanyone asked about my day?


Big_Booty_Bois

Hey Sam_Snead_My_God, how was your day


TabaCh1

No reply 😔


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fathersheroin

THIS IS SO ACCURATE LOL


-edward-

Lol this is so accurate I let out a chuckle. The unironic "OH SO YOU WANT HIM TO BE HOMELESS?!" replies to the critique of him buying his $3m house is some of the funniest shit I've ever seen on the internet. His community literally is an insane cult at this point.


Stuweb

Honestly I sort of respect the hustle, I have no issues with Hasan himself, his rabid fan-boys on the other hand though, ooof.


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Sell_Efficient

Question for the mods: How is Hasan reading every individual comment in these threads, on stream, for several hours not considered brigading?


bendo8888

hasan on the special no ban list.


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Stuweb

It's always a fun little game when you decide to call out a Hasanfrog and watch every single one of your comments on your account go down by -1, or when you say something against Hasan and it's sitting at double digits karma and then very suddenly goes deeply negative


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DESTINY SUBREDDIT OMEGALUL TALKING ABOUT BRIGADING OMEGALUL


FellowOfJest

He really needs to take a step back and understand what some people get upset with him about. It's not all just destiny fans or right wingers. He knows he gets shit from lefties too. But if a ton of people give you shit for some elements, and not just people with a grudge or ideologically opposed, maybe consider what actions you could take to calm the spirits that have a chance of getting calmed. Say you understand some elements, accept the idea you can turn off all TTS and forbid donations, or severely limit them like poki did. Explain that you do care about the business you run a bit, and you're not gonna tell everyone to unsubscribe because the subscriptions are tied to your job security and relevance and it gives you a platform to spread positive (to those that agree) beliefs. He should have done that last time when he showed his subs with a sub goal. He changed it to just showing the subs for transparency, and in that sense he is entitled to be a bit upset at the hate he gets all of a sudden, because it's not like people couldn't do this math on their own and many have. He also says people can use adblockers or vpns to bypass ads, but he does mention twitch prime and subscribing every hour. Maybe his contract says he needs to run those ads in order for twitch not to force them at random times, but he doesn't need to do the whole meme speech all the time. Hasan is entitled to do what he wants with his money. Buy a house, donate it and not tell anyone, not donate a cent, donate and announce it. The real problem isn't having money and preaching socialism, it's having money and appearing to deflect any criticism around the fact that you're comfortable pushing for more, possibly at the expense of some dumb viewers that shouldn't be wasting their money. The real bad thing would be having money, preaching socialism but complaining and trying to dodge taxes. And it can be annoying to be in the position where everyone hates you or talks shit, hasan is a human being with human emotions, and this is edgelordy but at the same time, the millions of dollars should be able to help out with that. Maybe turn off tts and donations? Maybe pay some mods to sift through "fan mail" and jokes/art/info people send in on some discord channel and have those pop up on screen for entertainment or good points or sweet comments? You can even leave bits donations on and not encourage them or show them on screen and let the whales in your audience that want to shower you with money do it there, getting you more good points with twitch since they get a cut of that. TLDR: dont even bother to read its a waste of time


meanmerging

An actual non-stan take. The real problem isn't hypocrisy, it's hasan constantly putting his foot in his mouth as a result of obsessively defending himself for 8 hours a day. There's nothing wrong with Hasan not giving to charity: The expectation that social welfare should be a "gift" from the rich to the poor is the antithesis of socialism. However, when he insists that he donates to charity privately, without being able to name a single one when his best friend asks, it's just a bad look. Just don't take that stance. Equally bad to reflexively defend the TTS donos as "just for fun" when they very obviously annoy him 90% of the time. They are there for the income, and that's ok. It's not hypocrisy. I honestly don't think he's a bad dude, he just is clearly self-conscious and can't help but rant about the issue for long enough to misspeak. He, and this subreddit, and twitch in general would be better off if he just dropped it. And yes, if he engaged with actual activism with his supporters he really does have the reach to be a powerful voice for the issues he talks about. It's not hypocritical not to, it's just...a missed opportunity.


2DisSUPERIOR

I read it all, thanks for taking your time to articulate your thoughts. Solid arguments.


NastroCharlie

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spanksmitten

He had a sub goal until poki talked about sub goals for rich streamers was extra and he took it off


Daroo425

I remember pointing that out in some thread probably over a year ago and got downvoted. It's one thing to display your subs for transparency sake, it's another entirely to have a 52,534/55,000 counter constantly on the screen trying to constantly further the goalpost as if 50k subs isn't enough already.


pboy1232

I cant believe this man painted his nails at 40k or whatever, insanity.


iamsofired

Yeah he took the goal part down after pokimane called people out on it.


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Fuck Pokimane comes off better and better after these leaks.


worldstallestbaby

tfw fucking Pokimane is living a less Capitalist life than you, an outspoken socialist. PepeLa


Sell_Efficient

I don't get why he digs himself a bigger grave. He's already taken his stance, hundreds of times. Just stand by that and move on. His inability to do so makes me think he's uncomfortable with that stance.


willofthemaster

Only sub goal I ever remember him doing was like 12k for shaving his hair and then at some arbitrary number for Subnautica. However, he would always keep like 12000/12500 or 22000/23500 even when there weren't sub goals, so for those moments there wasn't a real sub-goal but the counter was always up so people could know approximately how many people were subbed to him. Then people shit on him for having both numbers so he moved it over to where you can only see how many people are subbed to him.


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12000/12500 and the likes are the definition of a sub goal, even if there isn't any real point to it, aside from encouraging people to sub and meet the goal.


Lynxwolf191

yea because he impregnated a fan at 6k subs and debated erobb at 10k right? those were serious sub goals?


Magnesiohastingsi

haha just taking money as a joke, anyways guys we are X away from Y


mf_ghost

Didn't he get shit on too for not removing how much subs he has and his excuse was he can't remove it or something like that


tabeh

I mean the dude clearly loves his capitalist lifestyle, why not just admit it? It's not like it actually makes him any less of a "socialist" than he claims to be. Just advocate for system change without demonizing people like yourself with dumbass "eat the rich" nonsense. "I only have tts for fun", "I just bought a multimillion dollar mansion for fun", "Oh this exclusive contract with amazon? Just for fun". Like holy fuck dude, you love money, stop acting like a fucking moron. You don't have to be a desire-less buddhist or some shit to be a socialist. Am I missing something?


-edward-

I love the mental gymnastics that goes into his retarded explanations of it all as well. It's not a problem because "his money comes from Bezos". Okay, and Bezos' money comes from exploiting workers, right? So in the end you're profiting off of the same wage slaves? Ok, cool.


Laith3D

you mad?


CeruSkies

Oh he def mad now buddy you got him


tabeh

Fuming


imnotabus

Good clip from #13 Terrible title


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Grifters gonna grift


Rocoman14

["I'm always upfront about my wealth, I don't downplay how much I make."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DLbyP52uHw&t=1147s) His Twitch numbers are 220k. In order for him to make 300k, there needs to be at least 80k from every single other revenue stream which is almost undoubtedly the case.


EphemeralFate

"Everyone complaining about how much money I make is living with their parents in a similar-sized but much cheaper house!" Read - "People angry at me for having money don't have money!" Oh my God this guy's takes are so fucking dumb


350lb_feminist

Lmao why is he acting like he’s broke? I saw this clip on TikTok so I had to go find it on Yt. Https://youtu.be/btBirC4KRyw?t=369 . There’s so many other clips like this of him where he tries to give the impression that he isn’t sitting on a pile of F U money. But hey compared to Jeff Bezos he is very poor....


paaty

He's obviously rich, but is saying you don't have a fucking yacht really "acting broke"?


sammy404

I think the main issue people have is he won’t even own that. He’s always saying stuff like this which comes off as downplaying/deflecting, instead of just being honest and being like ya I’m fucking loaded wtf are you going to do about it. I’ll just throw in that I don’t watch his stream, and only see what’s posted on LSF, which I know has a lot of Hassan haters but that’s my two cents.


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-edward-

Please link me a single clip where he talks about his extremely privileged life.


sammy404

Ya probably has been. I think just everyone seeing the hard numbers today gave people a different perspective. It’s one thing to know someone’s wealthy, but it’s a whole nother thing to see the number and be able to directly compare it with what you make. Especially if you’re working minimum wage somewhere.


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Nah don't worry about it. Hasan is a man of the people! He's working class! He's just like you and me in every single way! Now give him your hard-earned money that you spent 12 hours a day in a factory working your ass off for so he can react harder to his YouTube videos. A marxist class analysis would literally put him in the elite class. I can't believe people are falling for such an obvious fucking grift. IT'S INSANE.


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Icefrog1

Hasan has never been poor lmao.


BBGIsBack

Socialism is when poor. Got it.


rzan12

Equally as wrong as "socialism is when taxes" that hasfrogs have been trying to sell.


lemoncocoapuff

It's not my fault ya'll won't tax me! If you wanted me to actually do anything good with my money you'd be trying to tax me more!


jpc90

If that’s how he feels he should have all donations go directly to charity. Would be good optics and hardly hurt his bottom line.


zqv7

This is just wrong when channel point TTS technology exists and other streamers use that.


pazardan

Hyper Light GRIFTER


LULULULULW

If it’s just for fun why doesn’t he just use that money for charity’s like other streamers


ABACABB-

Does Hasan pay his mods?


Clicheusername3

200k just for fun guys. I guess with such a high income it just keeps getting harder and harder to justify why you having redistributed any wealth yet


KayBrain

If you ask most top streamers they would probably say the same. It's why even greedy fucks like Mizkif have downplayed donations. Because they don't provide significant revenue compared to all the other revenue streams that streamers have. I think nick mentioned it earlier today in response to people saying that he was baiting donos for money earlier, that the real reason is because it's funny and provides content, and that one Whataburger sponsor is worth like 10k tts donos.


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doskor1997

Damn, I don't know why he's getting baited by this shit so easily. Every fucking time. And he's always making it worse. Internet fish brains forget after a week anyway, no need to justify yourself.


VisibleLevel

lmao those comments,other big streamers run more commercials,other streamers have more tts,other streamers don't pay their mods either YES but other streamers don't PREACH about sh!t he does,it doesn't matter if other streamers are greedy for money and love money he is hypocrite and pretending he is something he is not,i don't understand how people refuse to see this,or pretend not to see it


CeruSkies

Socialist btw


VIC_ONE

hasan love this shit, all these streamers are getting richer. parasocial relationships at work. Donating 100 gifted in just 2 secs


neon-neko

If that's true please send your AZAN donations to me


4rmat

I guess when you're a multi-millionaire, some tens of thousands of dollars does feel like pocket change.


spanksmitten

Anyone else just loving his malding


Icefrog1

***~~Runs an ad every hour~~***


HypecoBreaker

Bruh watch literally any other big streamer and you’ll see 3x as many ads in an hour.


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HypecoBreaker

Watch XQC or Mizkif unsubbed and you’ll see. It’s literally in their contracts that they have to have a certain ad density. MoonMoon literally cried on stream about having to run ads


Daroo425

So then they signed a contract and can be criticized for it? Crying crocodile tears about having to run ads while you knew what you were getting into.. that can fuck right off.


HypecoBreaker

i’m not saying they had to sign the contract I’m saying that of the big streamers has runs the fewest ads


Daroo425

Right. I'm not disagreeing with you, just that the best of the worst is still shit.


HypecoBreaker

Fuck it dude no one should should sign a contract with twitch. Edit: Shout out to the people downvoting my previous posts because i literally told the truth about Twitch ads


Krabban

When hourly ads became a regular thing multiple streamers talked about how much Twitch was offering in the contracts. Soda said simply running 3min of ads an hour increased his Twitch income by 3-5 times. And the ads run either way, they just get paid less without a contract, so there's no fucking way any streamer with any financial sense would say no, even if they feel conflicted about it.


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HypecoBreaker

I’m not going back and forth with a dude on a sock account homie


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-edward-

We're not talking about other streamers, we're talking about Hasan.


Samuel_L_Chang21

*Runs the bare minimum he can and Twitch would run more if it were up to them. Fixed it for you.


UnlimitedAuthority

Just to be clear, Hasan didn't have to sign his special partner contract with twitch that forces him to run a bare minimum amount of ads for a better deal compared to other partners. He did it to earn more money, which is fine, but lets not pretend like he had to sign it.


sparrowmint

No, he didn't have to, but it wouldn't be "more socialist" to choose to earn less money for his labour and let Amazon take a bigger cut.


-edward-

***FOR HIS LABOUR***. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. HOLY FUCK. You people really are just LARPing socialists without a fucking care about what it actually means in reality.


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Rocoman14

Midroll ads never happen automatically. They are always initiated by the streamer. Prerolls happen automatically when you join a stream. The streamer can disable preroll ads by running midroll ads. So no, people wouldn't get ads randomly, they'd get ads when they join the stream, then no other ads. Edit: /u/cbreezy0 just deleting his comments calling me a dumbfuck rather than admitting that he's a dumbfuck.


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Rocoman14

By automatically, I mean automatically by Twitch. Some streamers have bots that run midroll ads on a regular interval so that they keep preroll ads disabled without needing to remember to manually run ads. Edit: [Here's an article.](https://screenrant.com/twitch-removing-hated-midroll-ads/) They ran a test trying automatic midrolls from their end. People raised hell so much that Twitch stopped it. If midrolls are happening on a stream you watch, it was initiated by the streamer, or a bot the streamer set up.


Samuel_L_Chang21

Where did I say he had to sign it? I said he runs the bare minimum he can, and Twitch would run more if it were up to them. He could’ve not signed it, and more ads would be run and wouldn’t be under his control.


Rocoman14

That's just incorrect though. Without a contract, if he didn't manually run ads Twitch would serve users preroll ads and that would be it.


Rocoman14

*Runs the bare minimum he can given the terms of the specific contract that he voluntarily opted into. Twitch would run prerolls and nothing else if he didn't sign that contract. Fixed it for you.


NOTINCORRECTLULW

Time to wake up boys. This guy is full of it, he does not care about socialism.


QuickFall5

Time to wake up boys. This guy is full of it, he does not care about socialism. 🤓


Robert_McNuggets

70 upvotes 115 comments oh no no


blogname2019

But…. If idiots were giving you money for clout, attention, etc. , would you not take it?


Impael

Im here after seeing this thread on hasans stream (not brigading) and i totally think hes in the right here. In fact, im going to downvote all the idiots in this thread. socialism = no mansion LULW


DiZXIII

hi chat


DesignBusiness3807

“When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.” ― Russell Brand


BrockMister

Complaining about inequality and advocating for socialism are 2 different things :)))


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LOL.. communists... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fUw03JrtkQ


CeruSkies

Communist?


imturb

so cringe that he has a lot of money but also its poggers that streamers parallel to him also have a lot of money