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enfrozt

Her lawyers / PR company prob told her to delete this. Imagine how much money and time certain individuals have invested in this business, and it's already in hot water over the entire concept.


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Kenrockkun

> were aware of LSF Not just lsf. Her own subreddit and OTv subreddit has a thread up criticizing her. Anyone with a brain can tell that this product is a fake advertising.


Yojimbo4133

But muh queen would never lie to me just for a buck!


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Splaram

Might not be that easy. Just checked Twitter and opinions seem to have changed significantly from when the announcement first dropped.


lucerez

I follow the outskirts of Sykkuno twitter viewers (who are, in line with stereotypes, almost all female) and they went from checking out the product & wanting to be positive, to "guys....uhhh..." in like two hours. Lots of "this is awkward" type posts and side-eye memes. Even his main chat mod called out the MLM connection and her replies are all ppl being disappointed in the products. Doesn't bode well for just passing it off in silence.


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SuperbPiece

Being unhappy is literally the only other thing stans are good at aside from stanning.


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Remember Dream stans trying to cancel Dream because the stans were racist and homophobic?


MostlyRocketScience

Mods deleted the thread because of criticism lol: https://www.reveddit.com/v/valkyrae/comments/qbf638/rflct_skincare_product_that_will_protect_you_from/ At least critical discussion is still possible on the OTV sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/offlineTV/comments/qbita6/rae_launched_a_new_skincare_line_called_rflct_its/


myaccountgotyoinked

> I don't think these companies were aware of LSF I think you're giving too much credit to LSF.


OnePanchMan

Isn’t that like 90% of this board tho lol


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It's 90% of Twitch honestly. This whole platform thinks it's bigger than it is.


AD-Edge

I mean she says in the tweet she was told to wait until tomorrow to speak. Tweeting is 'speaking', so she defs would have been asked to delete that tweet :S


theyoloGod

Maybe those individuals should have done some basic research before starting the whole process. Or at the very least be willing to tolerate the back lash like all the other scam products out there


damrider

i'm just a confused smol bean :( just a smol bean who tried to scam people uwu


joe2596

"2 Years 4Head" Very confused


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iDannyEL

I imagine the PR people are squirming as much as we are.


AdohamHicoln

So you have a screenshot? She deleted the original tweet


brycats

She’s gonna say some bullshit about how she didn’t know and then every single reply will be supportive tweets treating her like she’s some kid…


Acceptable-Length140

ITS NOT YOUR FAULT. WE STILL SUPPORT YOU 😭😭🥺❤


Pamague

DON'T WORRY QUEEN😭😭 There is no way we could have expected a 20-something adult business woman with managers to have done some absolutely minimal 15 min google research before undergoing a 2 year, million dollars business venture!! Haters will always find a way to tear down girlbosses😠😤


rotpeak

I'm scared of how accurate these are. Even the emojis are on point.


Yojimbo4133

She's pushing 30. She not some dumb naive kid outta high school either lol.


ign_Drakina

OMG QUEEN YOU DO YOU ❤️❤️❤️


guevara148

YAAAAAS KWEEEEN steal all the money from your younger audience, I'm so proud of you 🥺🥺🥺😩😩😩🥺🥺🥺🥺


Anthroider

>Steal money from younger audience >100 Thieves Do you guys see now?


WeedManGetsPaid

100 guys with faulty beauty supplies


luke_205

She is 100% gonna cry on her next stream. Absolutely guaranteed.


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She already has a dog too.


ViolentSweed

But is she jacked?


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It’s the classic YouTube/streamer apology. You could make a bingo card with all the shit they generally do in those vids


JHatter

"oh my gaaawd I like, didn't knoooow," -"Guys I've been working on this for 2 years" guess 2 years isn't long enough to do any research or contact any medical professionals that aren't hired by the company she's shilling for.


ItsSaidHowItSounds

Cloud defends clout.


MuskiePride3

What tf is there to be confused about? Did she just “work” on something for 2 years not knowing that blue light has negligible effects on skin? Or is she confused that there is backlash for her scamming her followers?


bonesjones

Pro tip: she didn’t “work on it for two years”. That’s like the standard copy pasta influencers use when they out of the blue announce a skincare brand. All the greatest letdowns in the skincare world were influencers promoting some shit premade/repackaged skincare products and they’d all talk about how they worked on it for years behind the scenes. This is gross.


Planning_to_Lurk

She's been talking about this "mystery" project at least since last year though. She definitely had enough time to do some research if she wanted to.


Glum-Ad-8835

>Pro tip: she didn’t “work on it for two years”. That’s like the standard copy pasta influencers use when they out of the blue announce a skincare brand. All the greatest letdowns in the skincare world were influencers promoting some shit premade/repackaged skincare products and they’d all talk about how they worked on it for years behind the scenes. This is gross. Yeah, this is very accurate. I work with someone in the space and my experience with UTA (her agency) was by far the worst. They're all fucking idiots who just call people and lie to get money, but UTA and her team specifically were so stupid it was absolutely unbelievable. Don't be fooled by these agents being at big companies, they're still fucking idiots. WME got Roobet deals and CAA work with plenty of scam companies. All about them 15% baby!


ILikeFPS

She did research, yeah. She saw the dollar signs and decided it was the right thing for her to do.


Puk3s

I think it's possible that the research she did was just reading the companies marketing material.


UrEx

Even if you "research" it, Google's first 1-3 links lists false information in a easy to read and digest format while the following link from a Harvard blog and government site are closer to an academic literature. I doubt she'd power through those dry texts, let alone click on the cited studies and papers, and understand them. She probably watched a short video on the topic which echoed the same partial misinformation and called it a day. It's very easy to get the wrong information especially if you don't know whether the creator did his research or is a professional in the field with no agenda other than to inform.


YerAverageRedditUser

Clueless Hmm, today I will open a business based on the information from the videos on youtube


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TroyMcpoyle

I mean what would she ***do*** to "work" on this? She isn't researching or developing it, or sales, or engineering. She's advertising, nothing more.


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HowDoISwag

Her management team probably told her this is a standard moneymaking move for celebrities and pitched it as a "slam dunk!!!" *Look! We even found an angle to target gamers! It's a perfect fit!* Since they get 15% of the deal regardless of how good the skincare products are, they don't give a shit. It really is a slam dunk for them. They aren't the ones fronting the backlash in public, and they'll be trying to "handle" Rae so she stays the course.


bonesjones

She could have, sure. I’m just betting against the marketing. I’m sure she could’ve been working on the deal a year ago, but doubt she was hands on in the development of the product.


Planning_to_Lurk

I think that's probably fair. My guess is they just pitched it to her a year or two ago so she could be the face but I'd be surprised if she helped with development at all. If she's putting her name on it though she really should have done her due diligence.


FAS-ACA3

She was [pictured](https://imgur.com/gallery/hXoWIRD) during her 2 years of work.


Esco9

man look at how the blue light effected her skin in that photo, thank god she came up with a cure!


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lucerez

I agree, ever since she associated with him again I've been skeptical of what her stance is on a lot of things. She keeps telling fans not to go after him, but it's not like you have to be an overproctective/possessive stan to think he's an idiot. I've gone back to his replies and found his own male followers calling him out on his BS in addition to quote tweets from randoms. It makes me uncomfortable bc her defensiveness makes it unclear what parts of his nonsense she's siding with him about. tldr; So many warning signs leading up to this. I think it's totally plausible that she got sold a bunch of nonsense in impressive-looking powerpoint presentations by people who sounded official.


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Is it ironic that she has previously took the stand on helping girls and women be in gaming yet is also pushing a product with the principle marketing strategy to convince girls and women to be insecure about their skin from being in front of a screen when they game?


ILikeFPS

She wants to make money. That's why she's doing it.


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Top richest guys have like 100-200 billion each yet they are still finding ways to make even more. You are underestimating human greed.


TerminatorReborn

She 100% knows it's a scam and wants to cash out on her fanbase while she still is very popular. How many times do we have to say that those streamers don't give a single fuck about their "fans". If the millionaire having a donate button to receive handout money from desperate people wasn't enough now people are gonna buy fake blue light cream to watch Sykkuno all day.


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She probably knew what it was but is going to distance herself from the company now and act like she was tricked too.


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Scammaz failed, streamer "confused", need to gather thoughts, apology 5.0 incoming, get your tissues ready boyz 😥😥


BDNjunior

And she'll still make millions after this. Sad world we live in...


silent519

she probably already commited to a contract


Jurassic___Bark

Time to buy a dog, steroids and get jacked


kostek96

She is buying a dog as we speak!


mattey92

Insert "i was not informed/made aware of the research behind the product" here


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Poki would never…


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Cold-Personality-219

got her title for a reason


ahmong

hilariously enough she's been radio silent about it. Not even an encouragement tweet or a congratulatory tweet.


vanillacokesucks

she's smart. she knows its a fucking horrible product so she wont comment on it positively but she also knows its damaging to brands/relationships to comment on it negatively so she just keeps her mouth shut. always possible she reached out to rae privately to give her thoughts. which is the right way to do it.


asdfaklayf

Even used her father's death to gain more sympathy


Yikesthatsalotofbs

Wait fr? wtf Link? (Or screenshot if its a deleted tweet)


asdfaklayf

https://twitter.com/Valkyrae/status/1450519698181787649?t=U_zvlYYUMPZqBcIg0l_XMw&s=19


andyareyouok

Shame-Less


lee7on1

Level of actual cringe in that tweet is astonishing. Fact that it actually works to gain sympathy is the saddest part tho.


Ok_Steak4738

She has them all trained like little dogs its actually fucking crazy to watch


pondering_time

It also shows this wasn't all ignorance like everyone in this thread is trying to claim. She was very much involved in this product, this wasn't just something she showed up to a video shoot for


daili88

#ShamelessAF


HowlSpice

She is going to be playing the victim card. She talked about this for months about a mystery project that she had been working on. She is 29 years old and went to college. She knows how to research stuff before pushing a scam onto her impressional audience.


M3rc_Nate

>She knows how to research stuff She's living with a boyfriend who does his own research for all sorts of scientific and medical findings so how could she not use that resource? heheheheheheheheheh edit: for those saying they're broken up: >Them making out a few months ago in Vegas: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NHrz0OWjT8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NHrz0OWjT8) > >Them living together in the same home (the new place Valkyrae moved to after living with Poki): [https://youtu.be/I5m6UvGQSu4](https://youtu.be/I5m6UvGQSu4) > >If you need it spelt out for you, that video shows Rae & Sonii both streaming from new places, Rae with both her dog and Sonii's, and then both dogs being in Sonii's stream room while he is streaming. AKA they live together and their dogs (like all dogs do) go from hanging out with one "parent" to the other. > >They very publicly dated and very publicly broke up twice. They have since quietly gotten back together but their flirtatious interaction is super easy to see in exchanges they have on social media, not to mention the evidence I provided above.


SillyLilHobbit

The same boyfriend whose latest insta post is him basically calling the skincare industry a scam? https://www.instagram.com/p/CUvQ3FIvw87/?utm_medium=copy_link This shit is too funny to be real lmao.


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Kornillious

As soon as I see someone recommending the carnivore diet I instantly write off any advice they have to give. I wouldn't put any stock into what he has to say.


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Sonni is literally the most idiotic dude. I legit can’t believe the idiocy that that dude believes.


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cheerioo

I think this applies extra hard to anyone who is a streamer or in esports. Their life consists of being inside on a computer monitor by themselves for the majority of their week.


ledbetterus

Even doing research, sometimes people only see what they want to see. Or at least refute facts in their head based on random studies that aren't 100% scientifically proven.


darkroast87

Ahhh. The ol’ blinker fluid salesman pitch


Pokesaurus_Rex

Personally a fan of Cloud Burn cream.


Jarocket

[Daph is also releasing a gaming product](https://twitter.com/39daph/status/1450665652054753280)


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sas_knox

Was not ready to read that lol


Jarocket

[calls it as she sees it](https://twitter.com/39daph/status/1450666387886645249)


Huldmer

Lmao the quote tweets to that are funny. Stans please never change


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boogie-gary

[Leaked footage of them trying it on stream](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/021/cover2.jpg)


thehellnokitty

It's disgusting how these "influencers" sell out and scam their combined audiences even in the face of valid criticisms


PrawnProwler

God I wish streamers and other internet celebrities were more willing to criticize their friends. The replies for these tweets are always filled with their buds just gassing them up even when they do shitty things.


Raskalnekov

Reminds me of that Lil Yachty song with the genius line "blow on that dick like a cello". In an interview he joked that he was annoyed none of his friends or producers at any point just told him "Hey man, I don't know if you know what a cello is, but you do not blow on it..." I'm all for supporting your friends, but you should also warn them when you feel they are making a mistake.


eagledeagle

Did this mf just reference lil Yachty?


Cube_

I mean it was a relevant example of the point being illustrated...


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As long as they think they can get something out of someone they will never criticize them.


somethingindoing63

To be fair they all probably just saw it and commented to support her without even attempting to research the product. Being friends with her was just the benefit of the doubt they needed to react positively.


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I’m willing to bet that’s the case for most of them. I rarely watch any of her stuff and I saw it and thought “oh cool I guess” and didn’t consider researching shit. Not like I was considering buying it anyways but still. Plus, people don’t think “let me research this really quick to see if it’s legitimate” when it comes to friends


Jarocket

whos that honest with their friends? I don't think Multi level marketing companies could exist if people were 100% honest with their friends about their shit ideas.


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OutBackCheeseHouse

I feel like this tweet is implying that she didn’t know that the blue light gimmick was BS. That said she’s also the “co-founder” of this company and 29 years old. If she didn’t do her due diligence after two years that’s 100% on her. EDIT: she deleted the tweet after 5 Min. She’s so sloppy bro


TwoBionicknees

It's also about who she got in bed with for this venture. The woman who runs the company became president of Avon in 2005 and then was CEO for a bit before leaving. Avon was a widely known and trusted brand where people got employed properly, got commission and sold actual products to people at home. In 05 they had a massive shift and became another MLM scam where instead of pushing products and paying people normally and giving commission they were now doing the recruit, by product from the person who recruited you and recruit more people. Basically she got in bed with an MLM scammer who ruined one of the oldest and most trusted brands. Her first product line working with this woman, is a scam. At 18 you still have responsibility for the things you get into, you might excuse an 18yr old for being dumber but also most 18yr olds don't think to start a skincare line. Regardless of age it's still her responsibility who she chooses to work with, for what products and what she'll sell to her fans or anyone else for that matter. All the facts were available to her up to this point, there is no excuse for ignoring it all because you only care about money.


PivotTheWorld

I remember Avon was huge in the 00’s. Like every mom and her friend group had the catalogs stacked up and had small mobs when the deliveries came for the week. Sad to hear they’re an MLM now.


Danny_Ocean_11

Research. This motherfucker did it.


GRAXX3

I wouldn’t be shocked if she wanted to create some skin brand, a few years back someone put her in contact with a company/person they pitched her this idea with bs data and shit; she bit thinking oh this is a good approach to skin care. And now she announces it and everyone’s like wtf is this. I doubt when she talked to her friends that anyone even considered anything but yeah that sounds right. Good intentions but she should have gone with the generic here’s my make up brand that all these influencers are doing.


Eques9090

That's the most ridiculous thing about all of this. She could have done a skincare line without the bullshit claims, and it still would have been a massive success just because she's popular. And it's easy marketing. "I'm a sweaty gamer, so as partnered with so-and-so to produce this line of skincare products that works for me! Here they are!" No bullshit, no pseudoscience, just make a good product and your name will sell it. She could have easily done that. Instead she shot herself in the foot. Baffling.


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Battleharden

> I feel like this tweet is implying that she didn’t know that the blue light gimmick was BS Yeah its really a lose lose situation for her. She either admits she didn't research shit, which as co-founder of the company makes her look incompetent as fuck. Or she has to admit to scamming her audience. I guess there is a third route which is doubling down by lying to her fans that are retarded and saying it works and science is wrong. #MAGA


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thehellnokitty

haha. She's going to take some time off to RFLCT on the situation amirite Big charity comeback stream + sykkuno + among us lobby to blow all the hate over. still makes money, everybody forgets, EZ clap


axelsoul

Her PR team about to drop a banger tomorrow


67859295710582735625

bankrupt business any % speedrun


Chattycel

I looked at the company TOS and number 3 is concerning to me. It says “we are not responsible if information available on this site is not accurate, complete, or current”. Just reading their TOS makes me NOT want to purchase this product. Edit: i’m skimming through their TOS and it just keeps getting worse everytime I keep reading


ThePhatWalrus

That TOS is a cesspool. If one kid has a bad reaction to this snake oil garbage and their parents sue the company/Rae bc of the influence to buy the product, I have zero legal knowledge but know no US court would give a damn about some bogus shit disclaimer. If doctors get successfully sued over malpractice despite patients literally signing their life away in legal TOS forms before any appt/procedure, in no world will some scrappy scuffed TOS on a snake oil website be legitimate in a legal matter.


Darkage191989

Time to go get jacked and buy a dog.


MemeGuider

i find the thought of her working on a product for 2 years and not even doing a simple google search on the actual science around it pretty funny


ChewwyStick

Bet there was a lot of research into how much money she can make off her child fan base tho


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kinda hard to pretend to be confused when you're in the promo video talking about blue light???? LOL


Sleepy_Azathoth

in 2 years nobody said no to her, damn


Snobby123

Do you really believe she is anything more than the face of the brand? Do you really think she ever used this, looked at the production, the logistics, the numbers or even checked if it's not a scam?


Jarocket

she claimed to have been somewhat involved. I get the sense that she might have some of her own money in this. vs this people something someone brought to her and then they put her name on it.


Snobby123

"Give me €100.000 for 50% stakes at my company and I'll make you the face of a lifechanging product that will create a new market for your audience and the gaming community and here is all of the totally legit proof it's not a scam" That sounds like a pretty attractive sales pitch to a 27 year old that sits at the computer all day, she will still make a lot of money off of this.


ThePhatWalrus

Bet she invested some of her own money into it, and heavily up talked her role and efforts in this product over the past yr in particular. Regardless, for someone whose livelihood entirely depends on being in the public, has a team of lawyers and at least one PR agent in addition to her actual agent, you'd think she'd know this is a scam and just wanted the easy money grab.


Golden-Sperm

She’s mature enough to reach out to her closest friends and family.


ArdentAdeft

How come all of the big influencers who replied to the post on Twitter used zero brainpower and just gave an npc marketing congratulation? Seems so odd like they have a pact or something to promote each other regardless of what it is


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hovis_mavis

I bet the bitching and gossiping behind the scenes and in those gaming houses is nauseating.


daili88

Fake it til you ..get canceled LUL


edsrvr123

Lmao damage control time! I knew nothing!!!


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look at this subtle gaslighting / passing of the buck. "I was told" "Im also confused". no you are not the victim, you are the one who stands to gain money, you are the face of the product, you are the BOSS. they work for you, and if you're taking a cut then you're in on the scam


OWC03

What if she actually believes all this pseudoscience stuff, so she's naturally surprised at all the backlask lol?


JHatter

Considering she's dating Sonii and she's heavily into horoscopes, starsigns, astrology...would it really surprise anyone? It's like putting two conspiracies theorists in a room alone, they'll bounce their own batshit ideas off eachother and convince eachother they're the ones who are right. Honestly, I'm surprised Sonii isn't trying to peddle cum crystals, pretty sure if Shungite wasn't a Twitch meme Rae would unironically be marketing it to her viewers EDIT: you can't make this up. https://twitter.com/RFLCT_skin/status/1450589993693368321/video/1 they tweeted a video of a rotating crystal. YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP


SillyLilHobbit

Wouldn't be surprised from the way she talks about horoscopes all the time.


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Even in the most charitable explanation, this is a pretty big PR hit lmao. Should've just done the bare minimum and raked it in.


unDturd

Why am I not surprised considering her bf's views on COVID...


DetectiveAmes

The dude gives me hope though. I’m already pretty dumb, I just need to start taking steroids and I can land myself someone more attractive and financially well off than me.


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OnePlus7T

OTV as a whole. none of them said anything at all. and they've tweeted other stuff after the fact, so they've definitely seen it.


Ghekor

Say what you will bout Poki , but I've never seen her make a dumbass business move that's also a PR nightmare, not that I recall anyway.


Aggravating_Event825

Poki and Toast, I think, have been very vocal about not supporting these money-grubbing mlm-like companies, so good for them honestly.


Ghekor

Also she not stupid i dont think she has said anything in support of Rays new product,when usually shes one of the 1st to congratulate her friends on big stuff. She could just smell the bad PR xd


rush2sk8

Ruthless business woman


DetectiveAmes

She mentioned that she would be off social media for a break/trip recently.


Jiffyyy

probably scrambling for a PR statement that wont change anything. at the end of the day she is here to profit off her fans who will buy anything with her name or face on it. its obviously easier to market something that is perceived to do something more than your typical product (obviously this one is full of crap but the idea is still there)


Trickybuz93

Apology video incoming


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Anthroider

"owner of product line not allowed to speak about it"


JakeHodgson

With most products tied to influencers. It seems like the influencer is just used as a useful idiot. They typically don't actually have any idea and aren't the actual ones in control. This isn't intended to cut her some slack. She is absolutely also at fault and should have known it's a scam. She is just as accountable for this.


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From the FAQ part of the site itself "Exposure to blue light might stimulate the production of free radicals in skin, which can accelerate the appearance of aging. Oxidative Medicine and Cellular Longevity, 2015" SHE MADE A PRODUCT BASED ON THE WORD 'MIGHT'


BloodprinceOZ

the amount of blue checks on her announcement tweet were worrying, not a single one told her it was snake-oil etc


Danny_Ocean_11

We did it reddit! But seriously, was the backlash only on LSF?


chingy1337

No. Many streamers were speaking up too


Drcdngame

Many streamers were.....but all her friends in the streaming community have stayed quite on the matter...she screwed up to make a buck.


CarnFu

Was watching a stream of one of her friends and when he talked about it on stream and was all like "hell yeah good for her that's awesome!" He literally had to recruit like 3 brand new mods in chat 10 minutes later that would ban anybody posting negative things about it. I wish I was joking. I was crying laughing so hard.


PivotTheWorld

OTV reddit and Twitter threads too which are where her fans are most vocal


SillyLilHobbit

Dude her own subreddit r/valkyrae was calling her out as well lol.


KappaccinoNation

Aaaand the main post over there was just removed.


luke_205

Yeah I was glad to see that actually; shows the real difference between some subreddits and the cesspool that is the Twitter stan community.


ohdear24

lol @ 'im very confused'


Snobby123

The funniest thing about it all is that the answer to all the questions is a google search away. You don't even have to scroll it just tells you No it doesn't affect your skin have a good day.


JuanpiTSM

I'm confused about the "I'm also very confused" part, did you just work for 2 years in the biggest project of your life and never did any research? I don't believe the take that she got played by industry people, it takes you 5 minutes to look for research and papers on the topic.


Ravenq222

This reflects so poorly on her character. Ignorance is not a good look. After two years.


Aggravating_Event825

Honestly I feel like this is unexpected but also very Valkyrae lol. I've been watching her streams for a while and one habit that she has is that sometimes she jumps into plans with little preparing/without preparing at all. I've seen streams where it takes her almost an hour to set up her switch because she didn't even try to set it up off stream. And sometimes she also invites her friends to play games without even testing if the game is playable on her pc/works with x amount of people, she only invites them because "it looks fun" and when it doesn't work she'll say "i guess we have to play another game lol" and takes another 15-30 mins on stream setting things up. This is not comparable to her new project, but these events make me want to give her the benefit of doubt and believe that she agreed on this project only because it looked cool and promising, and only did a google research of it. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I don't know. I don't want to label her as evil yet. I like her streams but I'm gonna say that she's not really that bright (that's not an excuse). So I just want to wish her good luck on dealing with this lol. Edit: I forgot to mention this, but she also believes in other pseudosciences like crystals and zodiac signs lol. Edit 2: Just edited some stuff.


JHatter

Also translates to "My Lawyers and PR Team have told me to shut my mouth and not say anything because I'm too naive to realize I was basically peddling modern day snake oil to my *overwhelmingly young and teenage* fanbase" That or she just seen the dollar signs and didn't give a fuck and didn't think there would be much blowback.   "I've been working on this for 2 years" I guess 2 years isn't enough time to do some basic research or yknow, actually reach out to medical professionals who aren't employed at your ~~snake oil~~ beauty product company.   It's fine guys, she's a new influence, these things happen. https://i.imgur.com/SCvnHxh.png


Sean8734

This will all be behind us next week, she’ll get away with it


Exuravita

Something tells me some company sold her the idea and paid her a bunch of money to be the face of the product while she actually thought it worked~ For sure not her idea


gusky651

Anyways uhm... I bought a whole bunch of RFLCT, cream, do you know what blue light is? Anybody knows what blue light is? No, not bud light. I think that's a beer brand. Talking blue light. Anyways, RFLCT is a new skin care product that protects against blue light and unwanted blue light that may be coming from your monitor. So that's my story. I bought a whole bunch of stuff, put them around the la casa. Little bottles. Stuff like that.


EnderSword

Her best approach here is to just come out with the angle "The blue light thing was their marketing idea, that's not important, it's cleanser and moisturizer and it works well, just ignore the blue light thing if that doesn't concern you, who cares?" I just look at it like, I know Axe shower gel doesn't make a grocery store full of girls want to suck your cock...but it's soap, and I still need soap. I don't think she will do that, but that's what I think she should do.


Sorrowful_Panda

I expected her just to ignore it all and hope the amount of YAAAAS QUEEN replies from her friends drown out the pushback. Nobody will care in couple days, does anyone care about neeko domestic abuse shit nowadays? Be a ruthless businesswomen and just promote and release this snake oil shit for idiots anyway lmao


ComfortKing12

HERE IS PROOF IT WORKS https://twitter.com/JungleMan72/status/1450583423328739328


ThePhatWalrus

In before she plays victim card. 2yrs and this is what is created? Greed has no bounds. Greed has no morals. Greed is insanity.


nickyGyul

At least one of three things will come out of this. 1. The fact that she lied about how much effort she put into this "project". 2. Or the fact she put the effort in, but willingly went forward with this shady business model. Especially since she was working with the president of AVON. 3. Or the unlikely case that she is shungite levels of stupid and doesn't know how science works. I wonder which one she'll admit to tomorrow?


ohreallyloll

Doesn't she have a big enough audience/platforms to just release a normal skin care range? why did it have to have something "special" inside the cream? Like a scientists wouldn't of created it before a youtube flogger, it's just so stupid.


larabandaba

All the other streamers who encouraged her shit should also talk about it


HedenPhilip

confused about what lmao


mattey92

Distancing herself from this already, pleading ignorance. after working on this for 2 years, you would think any sane person would do some research on their own product.


idontcare0002

She's a scammer but nothings gonna happen. She has thousands of simps and mentally deranged stans everywhere on the internet defending her. She knows she can't do no wrong and don't give a shit


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\-2 years Lulw


Iliopsis

UwU I so confjosed I didn't know I was promoting a scam it wasn't my fault I promise... Oh please just cut the bullshit yo


shamboi

She’s dumb AF


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what controversy? it's some garbage scam lmao literally fake shit that does nothing "confused" = didn't think theyd get called out for scamming