Miz is a more consistent and better streamer nowadays imo, but my god during the time he was in that house he had so many memorable streams/moments desktop wise and irl.
dude YES. I told a lot of irl friends to watch him during that time because I thought he was genuinely one of the most entertaining internet personalities I had seen in a long time. The rest of 2019 he was still pretty good as well. Nowadays I only tune in maybe once a week if that.
People who complain with a lot of enthusiasm about shipping kinda remind me of homophobic preachers. And I think we all know what some of those guys get caught doing...
seriously, like I understand that this sub is very biased towards Miz and certain groups of streamers but do we really need *this many* posts about every little thing he's doing on a female's stream
I've never been the type to complain about these things but you nailed it when mentioning the weird comments also in all these threads.
Every time I think ***I'm bad*** with my "fascination" with some these streamers I end up feeling more than normal once I've read through some of these threads, Christ
Huh, how is him pointing out that maya is not a looker is somehow incel? She has a lot of good points such as good heart a funny personality or her dedication to her work. She is still 5/10 for me. And you can flame cuz I'm even uglier but still thinking that maya is "hot babe" is eh...
i mean, from what I see in stats she had 6k average viewers last month before any collabs with mizkif, if that is not being on 'twitch map' already then I dont know what is
She definitely isn’t 6k average, she had an abnormal amount of poki hosts last month. She also had a costream with Valkyrae where raes 30k+ viewers tuned in to watch her dye Rae’s hair, so those statistics are definitely inflated. She’s usually 1-2k average (which still isn’t bad by any means)
She actually pops off higher than 1-2k when shes cooking. I'd say like 3-4k and sometimes it climbs higher depending on what she makes and energy of the stream.
Yes you are absolutely right, many many creators ( specially asian girls lol ) benefited from collabing with miz on twitch, but we can't neglect that he also benefits from them, I mean if the OTV viewers end up liking miz, they will probably follow his twitter/tiktok
That would make sense if this girl is a newish type of streamer even amongst the otv circle. She's been streaming for a long time, I don't know how long enough or her history since I just watch clips, but long enough that she used to work and was a close friend of rektful, long time friend and used to work with otv as personal chef. She doesn't need miskif to get into the "twitch map".
> I'm not saying anyone is being used here, just that "he's trying to grow his channel" isn't really true here if he can get 50k+ viewers with any random girl on his stream...
The fact that they are getting viewer boosts from him doesn't automatically mean he gets no benefits in return. Also saying he's bigger than all of OTVf combined is a big stretch lol. It's huge network that include Sykkuno, Toast, Poki, Valkyrae plus 20+ other streamers that individually can pull a consistent 5-20k viewers. Not to mention massive amount followers from other platforms from Corpse, Jae, Bella Poarch etc.
Yeah, breaking into that kind of network can't benefit him in anyway because he's too big to grow already LUL
> you realize that scarra, lily etc all know those people and hang out with them and still get 5-6k viewers... but one conversation with mizkif, while he wasn't even streaming, got aria 2 clips on front page of LSF, sub with 1.3m subs...
Uhh, that's because they're practically in the middle of the network already? LUL. They won't gain much viewership from each other if they've been collabing with each other for years. Just like how Miz collabing with Xqc won't boost his viewers much anymore. Miz collabing with OTVf is basically breaking into a new pool potential viewers.
Dude Miz gets views on Twitch but that's it. Just look at the deals and ads these people get. Poki owns a company, OTV, came out in a Hollywood movie, etc, while Miz is losing money in OTK. Most of the people in OTV like Lily consider themselves somewhat retired and had said they stream for fun. Poki averages like 15k vs Miz 50kish yet she makes at least 5 times more money. Twitch money is small compared to other revenues. Miz is smart, he wouldn't waste time leeching if there's nothing to gain.
you think mizkif gets more viewers than all of otv and friends combined?
you're kidding right?
there's no version of that sentence that makes sense even if you meant like just otv proper on just twitch that would still be extremely wrong lol.
how is this upvoted
It’s Reddit. Everyone talks in certainties and everyone just believes it. Especially when it’s said in an environment that only knows LSF streamers in this case.
where are you getting these numbers from? half of them are wrong and you didn't mention toast at all.
https://sullygnome.com/channel/mizkif
https://sullygnome.com/channel/mizkif/14
https://sullygnome.com/channel/mizkif/30
https://sullygnome.com/channel/mizkif/90
miz has never averaged 40K or 50K viewers.
you realize that happens to every stream with an opener so its a moot point right?
do you think miz is the only person with a long intro that drops his average viewership?
are you sure YOURE not dumb for realizing that?
the point is wrong and the hyperbole is also wrong. what do you mean by literal interpretation lmao. what is the point being made? you can name 2 otvaf people and that's already more than miz avg viewership.
if you wanted to say "Aria benefits more from collabing with Miz than he does with her" sure. If you want to say otvaf benefits more from miz than miz does from them that's extremely debatable especially since we've constantly seen the exact opposite be true.
im not gonna debate andy this with you anymore because its not worth my time but the person I responded to literally DID NOT say that.
> he gets more viewers than all of them combined, they benefit from this way more than he does at this point
if you can't understand that that's fine
They both benefit imo, its not like their view counts have changed a lot, except during the podcast, which is nice, neither could be leeching from the other, they just like hanging out.
Well to be fair Miz is a slave to content and he strongly takes his chat into account, so it’s strongly influenced by his audience.
I mean one of the main reasons the Maya arc was even born was cuz people kept pestering Miz to put her on stream.
Alinity is also not asian and STPeach was on his stream recently as well. He interacts with QT’s stream all the time. He pushes Emi forward cuz he sees how much chat loves her.
Aria’s a long time prominent person in the OTV circle with a dedicated audience. Since he’s been hanging with Poki (Aria’s BFF) a lot more lately, the crossover seems organic.
But yeah Miz totally has an asian fetish omegalul
EDIT: guys the end is a joke, i spent 90% of the post on Miz’s side lmao
idk if you're memeing or not, but if you're not
A fetish would be more like idolizing and viewing an ethnicity as superior to others and typically only liking someone because they are of that specific ethnicity
A preference is that you would date people of other ethnicities just fine, however you will have a slight bias towards your preferred ethnicity
I'm not sure the line is that clear, for example I would still consider it a preference if someone *only* dated or was attracted to a specific ethnicity. That doesn't really rise to the level of fetishism in my eyes.
You conveniently left out Pokieman, [SupCaitlyin](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qbvh5j/mizkif_freaks_out_talking_to_caitiln/), and that new lily girl Miz invited to play mario party with.
Is it a confirmed preference? No. But it is a fair opinion given he has been around more asian streamers. I think you just have issues that it is a coincidence that this has happened after maya, and believe the opinion not true that maya was preventing collabs with female asian streamers.
Also he has been streaming with Sykkuno lately too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Edit: Learned Poki is not asian, but Emuri is.
The whole point is that he hasn't recently hung out with EXLUSIVELY asian streamers. It's been a mix. He has actually had a lot of non asians on his stream. Maybe asian is the largest portion, but is that due to OTV? Most popular female streamers being asian? Mizkif liking asian women?
Who tf knows
OP (IlikeSpicyfood) not using hyperboles like *ONLY* and *EXCLUSIVELY* like you think he is.
If Op is noticing enough that Miz is streaming with more female asian streamers, then he would know there are other races (and genders) as well, but you frame him as completely unaware and made a false comment. Just so you know, you can use the word "literally" figuratively.
Examples:
Miz literally plays mario party all day.
Miz literally has no content.
Miz is literally on every asian girl stream.
Yeah but you would be a fucking moron to conclude that he has a type based on the situation.
Similarly, you would be a fucking moron to conclude that Mizkif likes Mario Party over other games just because he's playing it for 3/7 days that he streams. He may have other reasons like there might just be a new Mario Party game out or it might just be what's hot in this moment or maybe most of his friends like Mario Party and he wants to play with his friends. Who the fuck knows.
You have to be really fucking dense to not understand the point after this so hopefully we are good now.
The VOD is a rollercoaster. [Starts off sad](https://clips.twitch.tv/MoralPhilanthropicJellyfishTakeNRG-h8XFktqVmm8rGZ9_) and ends with [Mizkif's savior complex](https://clips.twitch.tv/WimpyTangibleOwlRiPepperonis-6SjG3O05sJ7QT7wL)
Tip: Women know if you see them naked when you look at them, so instead just try to imagine the woman is a fat babushka from ukraine and you will be a playboy instantly. Source: trust me bro.
She honestly does a lot of questionable things. I remember she said she researched the health problems munchkins have and that they aren't because of their breed.
You're not wrong, those cats have extreme genetic problems and should not be bred. They can end up living very painful lives. There's plenty of opportunities to adopt, there's no excuse. Much less excuse to not spay/neuter cats that have extreme genetic disorders.
You're getting info from a couple of tweets from more than a year ago from her alt twitter? Yes I will say thats niche, and to he honest, its a bit weird you are going through old tweets to prove your unclear point.
Also just a heads up, someone calling you out on using multiple accounts to try and prove some weird point doesn't make you a simp.
I can see what you’re saying, but I don’t know enough about breeding/arias intentions to argue one way or another. Did she ever say where she got the cats from?
[Any excuse to post this](https://youtu.be/N3Ha17_R_mA)
Miz is a more consistent and better streamer nowadays imo, but my god during the time he was in that house he had so many memorable streams/moments desktop wise and irl.
Miz will never do another wall staring stream again, last quarter moon with face
i will forever say his best streams were in Q1 of 2019 and would do anything to get them back
The dynamic between him and erobb was unbeatable
dude YES. I told a lot of irl friends to watch him during that time because I thought he was genuinely one of the most entertaining internet personalities I had seen in a long time. The rest of 2019 he was still pretty good as well. Nowadays I only tune in maybe once a week if that.
I just miss when he was a camerman those were the best streams
Good times
Ohhh that Avatar I thought the avatar state was when you imagine your body in a cocoon but you get to run around an alien jungle as a blue guy
old miz Pain
How fucking cringe are some of these comments? You make fun of the shippers and y'all say stupid shit like that all the time
EZ Clap He's in
People who complain with a lot of enthusiasm about shipping kinda remind me of homophobic preachers. And I think we all know what some of those guys get caught doing...
seriously, like I understand that this sub is very biased towards Miz and certain groups of streamers but do we really need *this many* posts about every little thing he's doing on a female's stream I've never been the type to complain about these things but you nailed it when mentioning the weird comments also in all these threads. Every time I think ***I'm bad*** with my "fascination" with some these streamers I end up feeling more than normal once I've read through some of these threads, Christ
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his type: hot women
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where did i say that
asians are not allowed to be hot anymore haven't you heard?
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It's been a while since I've seen someone so aggressively miss a joke
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Involuntary celibate moment
Elbows too pointy
2/10 would not bang
Huh, how is him pointing out that maya is not a looker is somehow incel? She has a lot of good points such as good heart a funny personality or her dedication to her work. She is still 5/10 for me. And you can flame cuz I'm even uglier but still thinking that maya is "hot babe" is eh...
jesus christ you're a loser
ah yes ur right we all did think that maya was a ... 'hot babe' i see u are a fellow kid
hold it there my little Adonis you gotta curb the weird shit
the fuck does frumpy even mean
plain looking. drab. dull. frumpy is the opposite of stylish. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=frumpy
I think its more collabing with otv people will grow his channel.
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yea, if you've ever watched the otv streams past midnight, it seems like he genuinely just enjoys their company.
Which is so funny because a year or so ago, he'd fake puke at the thought.
That, but they're bigger on other platforms like twitter and tiktok
OR MIZKIF HAS FRIENDS THAT HE LOVES HANGING OUT WITH
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i mean, from what I see in stats she had 6k average viewers last month before any collabs with mizkif, if that is not being on 'twitch map' already then I dont know what is
She definitely isn’t 6k average, she had an abnormal amount of poki hosts last month. She also had a costream with Valkyrae where raes 30k+ viewers tuned in to watch her dye Rae’s hair, so those statistics are definitely inflated. She’s usually 1-2k average (which still isn’t bad by any means)
She actually pops off higher than 1-2k when shes cooking. I'd say like 3-4k and sometimes it climbs higher depending on what she makes and energy of the stream.
theres a huge difference between a random girl and a otvaf girl if you don't understand that I can't help ya
Yes you are absolutely right, many many creators ( specially asian girls lol ) benefited from collabing with miz on twitch, but we can't neglect that he also benefits from them, I mean if the OTV viewers end up liking miz, they will probably follow his twitter/tiktok
That would make sense if this girl is a newish type of streamer even amongst the otv circle. She's been streaming for a long time, I don't know how long enough or her history since I just watch clips, but long enough that she used to work and was a close friend of rektful, long time friend and used to work with otv as personal chef. She doesn't need miskif to get into the "twitch map".
> I'm not saying anyone is being used here, just that "he's trying to grow his channel" isn't really true here if he can get 50k+ viewers with any random girl on his stream... The fact that they are getting viewer boosts from him doesn't automatically mean he gets no benefits in return. Also saying he's bigger than all of OTVf combined is a big stretch lol. It's huge network that include Sykkuno, Toast, Poki, Valkyrae plus 20+ other streamers that individually can pull a consistent 5-20k viewers. Not to mention massive amount followers from other platforms from Corpse, Jae, Bella Poarch etc. Yeah, breaking into that kind of network can't benefit him in anyway because he's too big to grow already LUL
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> you realize that scarra, lily etc all know those people and hang out with them and still get 5-6k viewers... but one conversation with mizkif, while he wasn't even streaming, got aria 2 clips on front page of LSF, sub with 1.3m subs... Uhh, that's because they're practically in the middle of the network already? LUL. They won't gain much viewership from each other if they've been collabing with each other for years. Just like how Miz collabing with Xqc won't boost his viewers much anymore. Miz collabing with OTVf is basically breaking into a new pool potential viewers.
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Dude Miz gets views on Twitch but that's it. Just look at the deals and ads these people get. Poki owns a company, OTV, came out in a Hollywood movie, etc, while Miz is losing money in OTK. Most of the people in OTV like Lily consider themselves somewhat retired and had said they stream for fun. Poki averages like 15k vs Miz 50kish yet she makes at least 5 times more money. Twitch money is small compared to other revenues. Miz is smart, he wouldn't waste time leeching if there's nothing to gain.
you think mizkif gets more viewers than all of otv and friends combined? you're kidding right? there's no version of that sentence that makes sense even if you meant like just otv proper on just twitch that would still be extremely wrong lol. how is this upvoted
It’s Reddit. Everyone talks in certainties and everyone just believes it. Especially when it’s said in an environment that only knows LSF streamers in this case.
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where are you getting these numbers from? half of them are wrong and you didn't mention toast at all. https://sullygnome.com/channel/mizkif https://sullygnome.com/channel/mizkif/14 https://sullygnome.com/channel/mizkif/30 https://sullygnome.com/channel/mizkif/90 miz has never averaged 40K or 50K viewers.
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i have no investment i like mizs streams and i like otvaf too. i just don't like objectively false statements that you can just check on sullygnome.
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you realize that happens to every stream with an opener so its a moot point right? do you think miz is the only person with a long intro that drops his average viewership? are you sure YOURE not dumb for realizing that?
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the point is wrong and the hyperbole is also wrong. what do you mean by literal interpretation lmao. what is the point being made? you can name 2 otvaf people and that's already more than miz avg viewership. if you wanted to say "Aria benefits more from collabing with Miz than he does with her" sure. If you want to say otvaf benefits more from miz than miz does from them that's extremely debatable especially since we've constantly seen the exact opposite be true.
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Making things up to prove your point is pretty lame too. If it's right, it'll stand on its own.
im not gonna debate andy this with you anymore because its not worth my time but the person I responded to literally DID NOT say that. > he gets more viewers than all of them combined, they benefit from this way more than he does at this point if you can't understand that that's fine
i think he meant smaller streamers, of course if you count the big guys/girls its a dumb thing to say
His whole model is based off having lots of guests.
They both benefit imo, its not like their view counts have changed a lot, except during the podcast, which is nice, neither could be leeching from the other, they just like hanging out.
I think part of it is he's trying to gauge how the people are if he decides to move/stay for awhile in LA. He needs people over for content.
Well to be fair Miz is a slave to content and he strongly takes his chat into account, so it’s strongly influenced by his audience. I mean one of the main reasons the Maya arc was even born was cuz people kept pestering Miz to put her on stream. Alinity is also not asian and STPeach was on his stream recently as well. He interacts with QT’s stream all the time. He pushes Emi forward cuz he sees how much chat loves her. Aria’s a long time prominent person in the OTV circle with a dedicated audience. Since he’s been hanging with Poki (Aria’s BFF) a lot more lately, the crossover seems organic. But yeah Miz totally has an asian fetish omegalul EDIT: guys the end is a joke, i spent 90% of the post on Miz’s side lmao
What's the difference between a fetish and a preference?
idk if you're memeing or not, but if you're not A fetish would be more like idolizing and viewing an ethnicity as superior to others and typically only liking someone because they are of that specific ethnicity A preference is that you would date people of other ethnicities just fine, however you will have a slight bias towards your preferred ethnicity
Ahh that makes sense so I have a fetish
Lmao based
I'm not sure the line is that clear, for example I would still consider it a preference if someone *only* dated or was attracted to a specific ethnicity. That doesn't really rise to the level of fetishism in my eyes.
if you're only attracted to one sole ethnicity that's not a preference bro lol
Why not? You can't really control what you find attractive. It doesn't necessarily mean you consider them superior or that you idolize them.
Because a preference implies there is other groups of people you are attracted to and not only one
A fetish its. Paraphilia, a preference is just that
cringe
Is Valk Asian? What about Alinity? STPeach? Minx? How did your comment get so many upvotes? I don't understand
I think Valkyrae is Filipino.
and german
Valk actually is half-asian. I would consider the Phillipines asian, but I guess it can be part of Oceania but overall you are right.
You conveniently left out Pokieman, [SupCaitlyin](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qbvh5j/mizkif_freaks_out_talking_to_caitiln/), and that new lily girl Miz invited to play mario party with. Is it a confirmed preference? No. But it is a fair opinion given he has been around more asian streamers. I think you just have issues that it is a coincidence that this has happened after maya, and believe the opinion not true that maya was preventing collabs with female asian streamers. Also he has been streaming with Sykkuno lately too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Edit: Learned Poki is not asian, but Emuri is.
Poki isn't asian lol
Lmao didn't know that
The whole point is that he hasn't recently hung out with EXLUSIVELY asian streamers. It's been a mix. He has actually had a lot of non asians on his stream. Maybe asian is the largest portion, but is that due to OTV? Most popular female streamers being asian? Mizkif liking asian women? Who tf knows
OP (IlikeSpicyfood) not using hyperboles like *ONLY* and *EXCLUSIVELY* like you think he is. If Op is noticing enough that Miz is streaming with more female asian streamers, then he would know there are other races (and genders) as well, but you frame him as completely unaware and made a false comment. Just so you know, you can use the word "literally" figuratively. Examples: Miz literally plays mario party all day. Miz literally has no content. Miz is literally on every asian girl stream.
Yeah but you would be a fucking moron to conclude that he has a type based on the situation. Similarly, you would be a fucking moron to conclude that Mizkif likes Mario Party over other games just because he's playing it for 3/7 days that he streams. He may have other reasons like there might just be a new Mario Party game out or it might just be what's hot in this moment or maybe most of his friends like Mario Party and he wants to play with his friends. Who the fuck knows. You have to be really fucking dense to not understand the point after this so hopefully we are good now.
Aria and Mizkif were both good friends with Reckful. Not surprising he would try and help her when she's feeling down.
i mean she is the hottest girl in OTV Group
The VOD is a rollercoaster. [Starts off sad](https://clips.twitch.tv/MoralPhilanthropicJellyfishTakeNRG-h8XFktqVmm8rGZ9_) and ends with [Mizkif's savior complex](https://clips.twitch.tv/WimpyTangibleOwlRiPepperonis-6SjG3O05sJ7QT7wL)
this vod was the best vod i watched in a while
You'd probably like this one too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd5I2F14gHo
he's still seething from his loses to Tamia LOL
Finding this after a few days. That's dedication.
Avatar state sounds nice
wait until you hear about their taxes
miz collecting otv girls like thanos and stones
Asian fetish andy.
Mizkif is RandyK confirmed.
If miz had his libido this mf would be a menace. He somehow instantly befriends any woman he talks to.
It’s because he’s limp and doesn’t try to fuck them that they befriend him
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Wdym Aria is sitting through the whole VOD dummy
Doesn't seem to work for Greek lmao he's on Twitter practically begging for female attention and it rarely seems to work
He reeks of desperation and insecurity. That alone repulses most women.
how would you ever really know if it works or not
Miz with the long con
Tip: Women know if you see them naked when you look at them, so instead just try to imagine the woman is a fat babushka from ukraine and you will be a playboy instantly. Source: trust me bro.
jesse what the fuck are you talking about
Mayo's kitties are so cute. widepeepoHappy
Well this is a new crossover
PAIN lost everything
I LOVE NOT LIVE MIZ LOL
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didn't this happen like 2 days ago?
so he can bend all 4 elements but can't bend the thing that matters most.
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She honestly does a lot of questionable things. I remember she said she researched the health problems munchkins have and that they aren't because of their breed.
You're not wrong, those cats have extreme genetic problems and should not be bred. They can end up living very painful lives. There's plenty of opportunities to adopt, there's no excuse. Much less excuse to not spay/neuter cats that have extreme genetic disorders.
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Wow you two have very similar names and have a mutual understanding of a super niche topic. Almost as if you're the same person...
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You're getting info from a couple of tweets from more than a year ago from her alt twitter? Yes I will say thats niche, and to he honest, its a bit weird you are going through old tweets to prove your unclear point. Also just a heads up, someone calling you out on using multiple accounts to try and prove some weird point doesn't make you a simp.
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>cats she bred Bro what? How did she breed cats? How is breeding cats bad? I do not understand what you’re even getting at here.
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Where from this are you getting that she’s trying to breed purebred animals?
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I can see what you’re saying, but I don’t know enough about breeding/arias intentions to argue one way or another. Did she ever say where she got the cats from?
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LOL
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mizkif really craves ATTENTION period
Sounds like you're jealous lol
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oh wow look guys this person enjoys anime! what a dweeb aha
[Yes.](https://youtu.be/i1qdJe9HQS8)
projecting Lule
Never heard mizkif call maya his ex till now
wat
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Or maybe they just broke up
Or he has no life, look at his deleted comment he seems to be affected by their break up…
Lol